They tick all the boxes the anamorphic community has been asking for for YEARS. Of course people will find things to complain about, like no full frame, weak flares, and CA in the bokeh, but let’s be serious. These are “IT.” 2X. Fast. Cine housing. Back focus. They’re immaculate for the price.
the swirly bokeh is really way too intense for my taste. Honestly, I've seen way better looking footage with the Blazar 1.5x adapter paired with a Helios 44-2 then this 5K lens with a 100K camera. Maybe it's cool for a music video, or a dreamy scene in a film, but rather than that, it is way too intense. Once again, this is just my personal taste, but the Pavo is no go for me. Doesn't make the ARRI shine at all.
@@ChuckRiseUp you’re crazy if you think the Blazar is cleaner than this, especially on a Helios 😂 Also I’ve been all over this PAVO stuff since NAB, 90% sure the swirly stuff is from the 28mm, which… yeah it’s a CRAZY wide focal length for a 2X anamorphic, it’s gonna be a bit extreme looking. That’s horizontally the equivalent of a 14mm spherical.
@@ForestCinema you clearly didn't see any good footage with the Blazar. You can achieve quite amazing result with it if you have a decent taking lens. And we're talking about a huge price difference....for me, the Pavo doesn't worth it compared to an Aivascope (or even the Blazar) for the price difference. It should have been way more cleaner, less out of control swirley bokeh and super soft focus. This is not a versatile lens at all. For me, it falls into the tilt-shift and other specialty lens that you take out on a very rare occasion. Please don't tell me this 5K lens paired with a 100K look good to you, cause you're the crazy one here lol
Which mm did you find you liking the most. If you were to get just one? Cause some have more distortion than other focal lengths. But if to say I would get one but can only afford one for now. Which would you say is the most worth it to buy first?
The expander definitely is what made it so swirly. It’s not nearly that crazy without the expander and especially if you stop down. Lewis Potts did a video using the Pavo with the FX30 and it looked a lot less like the Helios, although still pretty unique look
Personally I would pick the Laowa Proteus over this set. Much more consistent character, and I love the subtle pincushion which reminds me of the Cooke anamorphics The biggest issue with Pavo is the inconsistency across the set, the wider lenses have a completely different look to the normal/tele ones, that's a deal breaker for me.
@@slurp3194 yeah I donno something about the swirls messes with my eyes , same thing happens if I look through the viewfinder with a 16mm wide lens . No clue why
The Sirui 50mm 1.6x+ 1.25 adapter also has 2x squezze factor, the adaptor also gives it constant squezze. With far better controlled CA. If you want that russian swirly bokeh, go with aivascope+ helios 44-2. Both way cheaper and deliver far better image.
I’ve seen some unmodified footage of the DZO pavos on Lewis Potts YT channel and that’s just the look of the stretched bokeh in the pavos. The expander is definitely making the distortion max out enhancing the swirly look and become more like the Helios 44-2 with an anamorphic adapter tho
I’d go check out the short film “Routines” on Lewis Potts YT channel shot with FX30, Komodo and the Pavos on the longer end of the lens set without filters or expanders. I feel like it gave me a better idea of what the usual look of the Pavo is. On his footage it reminds me of the Hawk X anamorphics. He also shot most of his on T4-8 instead of blasting wide open.
Peters shifted his focus almost entirely to photography while Matti did the same to cinematography which is a good thing since their content often overlapped in the past.
Dunno, I think you should try these lenses without the expander. Would love to see what it looks like on S35 with its intended covered image circle. This here just looks too niche and out of control for me for most projects.
At first I thought you were using an anamorphic adapter on a Helios 44/2. The look is soo similar! Now I’m wondering if Blazar’s Nero on a Helios could have similar results.
Hey! Frank here with DZO (American Brand Rep)! Matti, so glad you could test these out, I've been watching your channel for years. And yes, the subtle flares are an intentional design choice! We wanted that to be a little more subtle and controlled and not dominate the character of the image that the Pavo produce. We also have our own 1.6x Expander ;) Glad you liked them, and to everyone else, keep an eye out at your local rental houses as they gradually populate the market!
thanks for the review. are you sure there isnt something off with the lens? it seems to me it never gets really sharp. at 5:38 you can see its stills mushy like the anamorphic element and the spherical element in the lens is not aligned correctly. ive used kowas a lot which especially the originals never get sharp until T4 or 5.6
I love the swirl on a helios 44-2 or an old Summitar but as soon as I learned this lens is 5k I find it a lot less compelling. I think there are a bunch of cool cheap lenses that do similar things... That said I guess I'm just not in the market for this lens at best it would be a rental. Also this lens sort of reminds me of a plastic holga. Cool but also kind of gross
These look AWFUL. Nothing against your work Matti, but these are just bad. It's one thing for a lens to have character, but these people are just overcharging for a look that could be attainable with vintage soviet lenses and an anamorphic adapter. They're trying to charge us mid-quality prices for extremely subpar optics.
All of these lower budget anamorphics all look super amateurish- like a student film project. I wish someone could figure out how to make an anamorphic lens look like all the classic movies- aliens, etc. There is just some magic in the glass of those old movies. There is nothing about those old lenses that screams some specific characteristic- it just looks like a movie and you dont think anything of it. Lenses like the one discussed in this video all have extreme characteristics that are distracting.
Those old lenses are wild wide open. I don’t know if DZO welded the iris rings wide open before sending these to content creators but I wish someone would shoot at t4/5.6 like a real production would.
Nope not so good. Looks more like the Helios than anamorphic. The distortion isn’t like anamorphic…that overall circle shaped distortion of the image …too artistic and therefore distracting.
Can anyone help me understand why anamorphic lenses make the bokeh very squished (or vertically stretched), when pre-desqueezing the whole image is “squished” horizontally? So like if you need to stretch the image horizontally, the bokeh should become stretched horizontally as well (in the same direction that a flare would show up if that makes any sense)? Tysm ahead!!
Anamorphic lenses are designed to horizontally squeeze or compress the image onto the camera sensor or film plane. When you capture an image using an anamorphic lens, the image's horizontal scale differs from the vertical scale. This compression achieves a wider aspect ratio when the image is unsqueezed or de-squeezed in post-processing or projection.
I'm on the fence with these. I first saw this vid on a mobile phone and thought they looked quite nice. Then watched on a bigger screen and, hmmm. The look, the weird bokeh and lack of flares mean they're so niche it'd really restrict where (if) I'd use them. The Atlas Mercuries look way nicer to me, even though they're only 1.5x. The Aivascope too. I generally love what DZO are doing with lenses, but hmmm, not sure here, personally I'd go a different route. Shout out to you Matti for experimenting. It'd be good to see more footage from the various focal lengths to see if there's much difference between them.
Mhh to be honst I am not the biggest fan of that look...think it definitely has its place in a weird dreamy or distorting kind of scene but for a normal look I think its really uncomfortable to look at...I am rally distracted by that super blurry and weird surrounding.
On the website of Cooke Optics, they claim that the Netflix series Encounters "were shot by [Tim] Cragg on ARRI Alexa Large Format with Full Frame Cooke SF anamorphics". As is evident in the footage, Cooke Anamorphics does not look anything like the DZO Pavo, nor a modified Helios.
@@andrew_nayes from the Helios I own and other's footage, Pavo has the same vibe. I did not say it looks just like a Helios. Thanks for the info though on what Encounter was shot with.
@@famousarmystudio I think that a modified Helios and the Pavo anamorphics share some similar characteristics too, so I have no quarrel with you there.. I was just replying to your claim that Encounters has the same vibe as Pavo/Helios.
What do you guys think about the new DZO Pavo Anamorphic Lenses? Did I mention I really like them????
They tick all the boxes the anamorphic community has been asking for for YEARS. Of course people will find things to complain about, like no full frame, weak flares, and CA in the bokeh, but let’s be serious. These are “IT.” 2X. Fast. Cine housing. Back focus. They’re immaculate for the price.
the swirly bokeh is really way too intense for my taste. Honestly, I've seen way better looking footage with the Blazar 1.5x adapter paired with a Helios 44-2 then this 5K lens with a 100K camera.
Maybe it's cool for a music video, or a dreamy scene in a film, but rather than that, it is way too intense. Once again, this is just my personal taste, but the Pavo is no go for me.
Doesn't make the ARRI shine at all.
@@ChuckRiseUp you’re crazy if you think the Blazar is cleaner than this, especially on a Helios 😂 Also I’ve been all over this PAVO stuff since NAB, 90% sure the swirly stuff is from the 28mm, which… yeah it’s a CRAZY wide focal length for a 2X anamorphic, it’s gonna be a bit extreme looking. That’s horizontally the equivalent of a 14mm spherical.
@@ForestCinema you clearly didn't see any good footage with the Blazar. You can achieve quite amazing result with it if you have a decent taking lens. And we're talking about a huge price difference....for me, the Pavo doesn't worth it compared to an Aivascope (or even the Blazar) for the price difference. It should have been way more cleaner, less out of control swirley bokeh and super soft focus.
This is not a versatile lens at all. For me, it falls into the tilt-shift and other specialty lens that you take out on a very rare occasion.
Please don't tell me this 5K lens paired with a 100K look good to you, cause you're the crazy one here lol
Which mm did you find you liking the most. If you were to get just one? Cause some have more distortion than other focal lengths. But if to say I would get one but can only afford one for now. Which would you say is the most worth it to buy first?
Honestly I thought it was a Helios. And it makes me happy that I’m able to get this look out of a $150 lens which I already own. Thanks for sharing.
haha exactly
The expander definitely is what made it so swirly. It’s not nearly that crazy without the expander and especially if you stop down. Lewis Potts did a video using the Pavo with the FX30 and it looked a lot less like the Helios, although still pretty unique look
Seem like every new lens is your new favorite lens. 😅😅😅 You have been looking more excited & happy since you switched to the Alexa & Cine lenses.
Lol typical youtuber overhype hahaha
Personally I would pick the Laowa Proteus over this set. Much more consistent character, and I love the subtle pincushion which reminds me of the Cooke anamorphics
The biggest issue with Pavo is the inconsistency across the set, the wider lenses have a completely different look to the normal/tele ones, that's a deal breaker for me.
Honestly , they make me kinda nauseous ? Anyone else ?
Yea I'm not a big fan. I'd rather the background just be blurry
Ave the same sensation, I don't know why that distortion of the background, in my opinion it doesn't look nice
Nauseous? Thats crazy the lens is so interesting and unique. In dream sequences this could look awesome
@@slurp3194 yeah I donno something about the swirls messes with my eyes , same thing happens if I look through the viewfinder with a 16mm wide lens . No clue why
I get motion sickness very easily and nah
The Sirui 50mm 1.6x+ 1.25 adapter also has 2x squezze factor, the adaptor also gives it constant squezze. With far better controlled CA. If you want that russian swirly bokeh, go with aivascope+ helios 44-2. Both way cheaper and deliver far better image.
100%
I rather see some footage without the expander. I think it’s give the bokeh some really weird texture.
I’ve seen some unmodified footage of the DZO pavos on Lewis Potts YT channel and that’s just the look of the stretched bokeh in the pavos. The expander is definitely making the distortion max out enhancing the swirly look and become more like the Helios 44-2 with an anamorphic adapter tho
I’d go check out the short film “Routines” on Lewis Potts YT channel shot with FX30, Komodo and the Pavos on the longer end of the lens set without filters or expanders. I feel like it gave me a better idea of what the usual look of the Pavo is. On his footage it reminds me of the Hawk X anamorphics. He also shot most of his on T4-8 instead of blasting wide open.
Wow, these look great. I know they are “budget,” but $5500 is way out of my price range. Might have to stick to sphericals and cropping 😅
@mattihaapoja.. fake
Sirui is more budget
@@mysticandroid57 yeah but it’s not pl
Really gorgeous, reminds me of a Hellios.
Either the Atlas Expander made these look wonky or the back focuses were not properly adjusted. Lots busy bokeh and chromatic abberation.
Thought the same. Looks like a very bad calibrated lens.
@mattihaapoja.. tell me more... :)
Trust me. Your content better than Peter's these days
Keep going
Why compare?
Both are very unique
Peters shifted his focus almost entirely to photography while Matti did the same to cinematography which is a good thing since their content often overlapped in the past.
I think the price is very much higher than the viltrox anamorphic 75mm honestly. With this price you can get two viltrox lens
i think your video description is overwhelming
kind regards :)
Dunno, I think you should try these lenses without the expander. Would love to see what it looks like on S35 with its intended covered image circle. This here just looks too niche and out of control for me for most projects.
At first I thought you were using an anamorphic adapter on a Helios 44/2. The look is soo similar! Now I’m wondering if Blazar’s Nero on a Helios could have similar results.
Love it, Matti!!!!
Hey! Frank here with DZO (American Brand Rep)! Matti, so glad you could test these out, I've been watching your channel for years. And yes, the subtle flares are an intentional design choice! We wanted that to be a little more subtle and controlled and not dominate the character of the image that the Pavo produce. We also have our own 1.6x Expander ;) Glad you liked them, and to everyone else, keep an eye out at your local rental houses as they gradually populate the market!
Hello,can you tell us if the 1.6x extender makes a more nice bokeh?Not so busy and kind of strage?
Are you using the 1.4 or 1.6x expander? Great look!!
thanks for the review. are you sure there isnt something off with the lens? it seems to me it never gets really sharp. at 5:38 you can see its stills mushy like the anamorphic element and the spherical element in the lens is not aligned correctly. ive used kowas a lot which especially the originals never get sharp until T4 or 5.6
Matti, seriously I aprreciate you brother. You satiate my ocd. How? You say "bow kay" rather than "bow kuh". Otherwise love your work!!
I have every Hassleblad lens. Couldn’t part with them 🙉
Is there a digital back that has both photo and movie capabilities? Thanks!!!
Halle
on your website where you have your audio presets are you ever going to make one for davinc?
whats up with the audio at 3:19? 😂
i feel like its either swirl or anamorphic. this is quite extreeme from both. i like it cleaner. but its cool.
latest season of netflix's You show looks awesome due to anamorphic
Cool!✌️
That made me so dizzy I do night like that lens
Have we reached peak ‘cinematic’
Helios on steroid😶 looks breathtaking as well as beyond my reach😄
similar to helios 44 !!! 👍
Great
wait did broski say 5k ? 🤣🤣
The distortion is too much, ...so much that it's more like a Helios 44 then an anamorphic.
I thought it was 40buk Helios 🤣
I love the swirl on a helios 44-2 or an old Summitar but as soon as I learned this lens is 5k I find it a lot less compelling. I think there are a bunch of cool cheap lenses that do similar things... That said I guess I'm just not in the market for this lens at best it would be a rental. Also this lens sort of reminds me of a plastic holga. Cool but also kind of gross
gotta get a cheater box on that Alexa 😉
aka a light ranger with that beautiful AF button lol
Teach me your ways 😂
Helios M44-2
$5000?! Yeah, imma head out lol
Lol i'm out here using 300€ lenses and thinking that's budget, also thinking 2000€ lenses would be too expensive for me 😂
Looks like Helios
I thought it was a helios moded.
im loving these era of Matti
You can get the same effect with $25 cctv lenses on an MFT body
0:13 Ed Sheeran
These look AWFUL. Nothing against your work Matti, but these are just bad. It's one thing for a lens to have character, but these people are just overcharging for a look that could be attainable with vintage soviet lenses and an anamorphic adapter. They're trying to charge us mid-quality prices for extremely subpar optics.
A little disorienting, It gives a dizzy feel
All of these lower budget anamorphics all look super amateurish- like a student film project. I wish someone could figure out how to make an anamorphic lens look like all the classic movies- aliens, etc. There is just some magic in the glass of those old movies. There is nothing about those old lenses that screams some specific characteristic- it just looks like a movie and you dont think anything of it. Lenses like the one discussed in this video all have extreme characteristics that are distracting.
Those old lenses are wild wide open. I don’t know if DZO welded the iris rings wide open before sending these to content creators but I wish someone would shoot at t4/5.6 like a real production would.
3:53 A $5k lens with this bokeh, no thanks, imma get an aivascope instead😅
Looks like helios
I would rent them not buy them. It's a heavy-duty effect and really can take the focus out of the story.
That is some freaking trippy bokeh…
It's shame, that review is so lazy done🙈
Why not to try night time?
Nope not so good. Looks more like the Helios than anamorphic. The distortion isn’t like anamorphic…that overall circle shaped distortion of the image …too artistic and therefore distracting.
Great lens but this guy sucks at filmmaking
It looks like helios+blazar that s the same effect
Looks like helios 44-2 with aivascope anamorphic
The Helios and aivascope looks better
Yep, though the Helios and Aivascope look better to me. Way more flexible too as you can change the taking lens for different looks.
Try Helios 44 for 40 bucks…
Feels a bit much. Maybe good to portray disassociation but how often do you want to portray that?
This is not an accurate representation of the lenses - they need to be used without the expander. Other UA-camrs sample footage is much cleaner.
These jawns are SWIRLY! Sheesh!
Seeeeeerious swirls
Can anyone help me understand why anamorphic lenses make the bokeh very squished (or vertically stretched), when pre-desqueezing the whole image is “squished” horizontally? So like if you need to stretch the image horizontally, the bokeh should become stretched horizontally as well (in the same direction that a flare would show up if that makes any sense)? Tysm ahead!!
Anamorphic lenses are designed to horizontally squeeze or compress the image onto the camera sensor or film plane. When you capture an image using an anamorphic lens, the image's horizontal scale differs from the vertical scale. This compression achieves a wider aspect ratio when the image is unsqueezed or de-squeezed in post-processing or projection.
I'm on the fence with these. I first saw this vid on a mobile phone and thought they looked quite nice. Then watched on a bigger screen and, hmmm. The look, the weird bokeh and lack of flares mean they're so niche it'd really restrict where (if) I'd use them.
The Atlas Mercuries look way nicer to me, even though they're only 1.5x. The Aivascope too. I generally love what DZO are doing with lenses, but hmmm, not sure here, personally I'd go a different route.
Shout out to you Matti for experimenting. It'd be good to see more footage from the various focal lengths to see if there's much difference between them.
@mattihaapoja.. fake
@mattihaapoja.. fake
Perfect lens for a pov of someone that is high on drugs or something.
didn’t know Colon Robertson was into cinematography
Looks like my $300 Petzval lens?
too much chromatic aberrations
What focal length are you showcasing in this video?
nice but way to soft for my style
Too much
at 2x speed you sound like a normal human.
looks like an overpriced helios
That looks so cool
0:56 I like this Pro Mist "Headphones edition" in the bokeh ahahah 🤣
Mhh to be honst I am not the biggest fan of that look...think it definitely has its place in a weird dreamy or distorting kind of scene but for a normal look I think its really uncomfortable to look at...I am rally distracted by that super blurry and weird surrounding.
But does it have auto focus….? Asking for a friend…
Very "Vibey" It'd be interesting to see a feature shot on these.
That’s dope
Reminds me if some shots from chilling adventure of Sabrina
Did anyone notice the audio was slowed down in the beginning??
1 mil subs and only 20k views? where's everyone?
What a video
Any reason why you never shoot open gate when using anamorphic lenses?
The LF Expander is basically a TELE Converter
King content.
Too professional ewwww😢❤
It's really amazing
🔥
I think the new Netflix series Encounter was shot on this. Has the same vibe as a modified Helios 442
On the website of Cooke Optics, they claim that the Netflix series Encounters "were shot by [Tim] Cragg on ARRI Alexa Large Format with Full Frame Cooke SF anamorphics". As is evident in the footage, Cooke Anamorphics does not look anything like the DZO Pavo, nor a modified Helios.
@@andrew_nayes from the Helios I own and other's footage, Pavo has the same vibe. I did not say it looks just like a Helios. Thanks for the info though on what Encounter was shot with.
@@famousarmystudio I think that a modified Helios and the Pavo anamorphics share some similar characteristics too, so I have no quarrel with you there.. I was just replying to your claim that Encounters has the same vibe as Pavo/Helios.
ANOTHER BANGER!
@mattihaapoja.. fake bro where is that checkmark???
definitely great for drunk/trippy cam shots