I just learned this form. And after the chokes and front kicks, (1:16). I learned that there’s one punch that comes after. I saw you did two, I’m unsure who is correct in this situation. Would you mind helping me out?
I do not know the Chong Sil system, so pardon me. Is it traditional to not keep a solid stance in between the individual moves of this form? It almost looks rhythmic like dancing.
@randomstuff4762 I've learned them, but as a sidebar in WT training. As such, various nuances are changed including the removal of the sine wave, removal of the audible breathing on every movement, and adding kihaps to places where it seems appropriate. Basically, trying to modernize the forms to Kukkiwon standards.
really great pattern and video. Luchog, if you are talking about why the back foot moves back on walking stances, I agree. It is like a small hop of shifting. I know there is stamping with the front foot, but back foot should not pop back.
Nice and crisp but I noticed your head turned at the same time as low block, recent seminar with the itf technical director said this is impractical and incorrect just a heads up ... get it. Heads up
disagree ambrose. Firstly he is an awesome exponent however there is a slight upward movement on his feet that he does between movements. The spotter who mentions it is correct. He isnt referring to sinewave for d record. Also when u turn and slide that movement is not a stop.Exponent is unnecessarily halting. No such movement in pattern. Keep moving
It says in the earliest books there is to be sinewave in the movement, but most of these pattern overdo the sinewave to the point the patterns become absolutely useless and non-functional. Going up and down, up and down, will result in you being punched in the face before you even completes the technique. The fastest way forward is in a straight line. Imagine running to a point and you move up and down, you will finish last everytime. Speed wins, speed kills. There is a much better way to do the sinewave and it’s functional than any of the applications i see online. Too bad Taekwondo and many (not all) have taken this route to patterns. Far from how it was meant to applied. There are some though who have understood the original message and do it properly. Nobody waits for you to go up and down before a punch. I will have you knocked out before you finish your so called power sinewave. What’s the use of punching super hard when you are always knocked out before you finish your punch? It’s also easy to prove inbetween your ups and down you have so bad balance i can literally push you and you fall down. The book says sinewave, it doesn’t say how big of a sinewave. They are overdoing soooo much to the point it’s painful to watch. Beautiful yet non-effective.
Your explanation is like saying skipping is a useless exercise because in real combat your opponenet will knock you out while you're randomly jumping in the same spot for no reason. Any fighter knows skipping is meant to make you lighter on your feet and work your cardio. Sinewave is learning to relax your body and accelerate your technique between moves so there is a smooth flow of motion to maximize power. No one in Taekwon-Do is expecting to use a down-up-down motion in real combat. Don't be silly! However, they will learn when to be relaxed and when to mobilize their bodyweight behind a technique. The down-up-down motion is merely the outcome of this idea when practiced to patterns. It is not the purpose.
@@geoffreymichaelmusic Patterns are meant to help familiarize students with breathing, transitioning bodyweight, attacking tools, vital spots, distance and angles of techniques. They help develop balance, flexibility, and body coordination. In the same way weight-lifting, resistance training, and cardio help a fighter be more effective. Patterns teach the threory behind what makes a good TKD fighter. They are not meant to be practically used in fighting in the same way you don't practically use skipping, resistance training, or weight-lifting in an actual fight.
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Is that a backfist coming straight forward or inward from the side (move #35&37)?
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I just learned this form. And after the chokes and front kicks, (1:16). I learned that there’s one punch that comes after. I saw you did two, I’m unsure who is correct in this situation. Would you mind helping me out?
2, reverse then obverse in fast motion as shown
I do not know the Chong Sil system, so pardon me. Is it traditional to not keep a solid stance in between the individual moves of this form? It almost looks rhythmic like dancing.
You will only see this in ITF schools that teach the sine wave motion. It is very controversial and not universally adopted.
@@MKillBillhere in greece, sine wave is standard. I don't think I've seen anyone not using it
@@randomstuff4762 I found that the sine wave is mainly used in Europe. In the US, it's rarely if ever seen.
@@MKillBill i don't think I've seen American's perform tul in general
@randomstuff4762 I've learned them, but as a sidebar in WT training. As such, various nuances are changed including the removal of the sine wave, removal of the audible breathing on every movement, and adding kihaps to places where it seems appropriate. Basically, trying to modernize the forms to Kukkiwon standards.
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Why do you lift your feet every time you move?
It gives you more movement in your hips, resulting in stronger moves.
really great pattern and video. Luchog, if you are talking about why the back foot moves back on walking stances, I agree. It is like a small hop of shifting. I know there is stamping with the front foot, but back foot should not pop back.
Nice and crisp but I noticed your head turned at the same time as low block, recent seminar with the itf technical director said this is impractical and incorrect just a heads up ... get it. Heads up
disagree ambrose. Firstly he is an awesome exponent however there is a slight upward movement on his feet that he does between movements. The spotter who mentions it is correct. He isnt referring to sinewave for d record. Also when u turn and slide that movement is not a stop.Exponent is unnecessarily halting. No such movement in pattern. Keep moving
Strong moves is,sinosoid moves
the getting down on the floor part always made this form look so ridiculous to me 😂
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He didn't hit the mark . He didn't finish on the same spot he started. I am just learning it my instructor always finished were he started.
Let me guess, testing is in a week and you forgot to practice?
It says in the earliest books there is to be sinewave in the movement, but most of these pattern overdo the sinewave to the point the patterns become absolutely useless and non-functional.
Going up and down, up and down, will result in you being punched in the face before you even completes the technique.
The fastest way forward is in a straight line.
Imagine running to a point and you move up and down, you will finish last everytime.
Speed wins, speed kills.
There is a much better way to do the sinewave and it’s functional than any of the applications i see online.
Too bad Taekwondo and many (not all) have taken this route to patterns.
Far from how it was meant to applied.
There are some though who have understood the original message and do it properly.
Nobody waits for you to go up and down before a punch.
I will have you knocked out before you finish your so called power sinewave.
What’s the use of punching super hard when you are always knocked out before you finish your punch?
It’s also easy to prove inbetween your ups and down you have so bad balance i can literally push you and you fall down.
The book says sinewave, it doesn’t say how big of a sinewave.
They are overdoing soooo much to the point it’s painful to watch.
Beautiful yet non-effective.
Your explanation is like saying skipping is a useless exercise because in real combat your opponenet will knock you out while you're randomly jumping in the same spot for no reason. Any fighter knows skipping is meant to make you lighter on your feet and work your cardio.
Sinewave is learning to relax your body and accelerate your technique between moves so there is a smooth flow of motion to maximize power. No one in Taekwon-Do is expecting to use a down-up-down motion in real combat. Don't be silly! However, they will learn when to be relaxed and when to mobilize their bodyweight behind a technique. The down-up-down motion is merely the outcome of this idea when practiced to patterns. It is not the purpose.
@@Tkdtube what was the intended purpose of patterns may i ask?
@@geoffreymichaelmusic Patterns are meant to help familiarize students with breathing, transitioning bodyweight, attacking tools, vital spots, distance and angles of techniques. They help develop balance, flexibility, and body coordination.
In the same way weight-lifting, resistance training, and cardio help a fighter be more effective. Patterns teach the threory behind what makes a good TKD fighter. They are not meant to be practically used in fighting in the same way you don't practically use skipping, resistance training, or weight-lifting in an actual fight.
No kidding nobody is going to fight like they do a pattern 😂. Thanks captain obviously
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