The $500k Cyber Security Engineer | Jumpstart your Career with Internships feat
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Ever wondered how internships can lead to a thriving tech career? This episode hosts an engaging conversation with @TayOnTech a young African American man from Mississippi turned cybersecurity guru. His astounding journey from Mississippi to Texas and his passion for cybersecurity captivates the minds of tech enthusiasts. Together, we explore the setbacks faced by individuals in places with scarce education and job opportunities, and how self-investment can turn the tide.
A large chunk of our youth is engrossed in college education and internships - but how many of us are doing it right? Through my own experiences, especially my first internship at Southwest , we delve into the importance of securing internships early, choosing the right classes, and utilizing the educational system effectively. Moreover, we also touch upon the vital role of proper guidance for those from underserved backgrounds.
As we steer towards the end, we dive into real-world scenarios discussing job transitions, insights into consulting, creating engaging content, detecting insider threats and strategies for acing interviews. We open up about our experiences with different tech companies and their compensation strategies, reinforcing that the tech industry is not just about code and software, but is filled with endless possibilities and paths to success. Tune in to embark on this riveting exploration of the tech industry, filled with invaluable tips, inspiring stories and unique perspectives.
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0:00 Intro
14:41 Navigating College and Selecting Classes
22:06 Internship Experiences and Career Progression
36:22 Job Transition and Reflections on Colleagues
40:55 Experiences in Consulting and Achievements
53:21 Insider Threat Detection in Finance
59:25 Creating Content, Brand Deals, Affiliate Marketing
1:08:03 Interview Strategies and Technology Trends
1:15:31 Discussion on Compensation and Work Responsibilities
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These guys are giving some solid advice, I recently went back to school for cybersecurity at my local community college. I had no previous IT experience, but while attending school I kept applying for IT positions, and internships to get experience. Little did I know that getting an internship is the most critical thing I could have gotten. within my first semester I got a paid internship as a Security Engineer. I'm still learning something new everyday and I keep telling my classmates to apply for any and all internships to avoid the cliché college struggle.
How? Where? Is there an age stigma? Thanks.
Trying to get an internship without being in school is like damn near impossible.
Try an apprenticeship
Goodwill has free tech classes and apprenticeships
Thats true but not an excuse not try to and get in the field. I actually plan on branding myself this year.
I dropped out of community college and worked in geek squad, but fast forward, now I have a 200k devops job. Still no degree as a black man who looks and is from the hood.
You're going to run into roadblocks but the key is to never quit.
@@GamingCentralTV1 🔥
@@GamingCentralTV1congratulations man
Amazing chat you guys are had. I just gave Tay a follow on Twitter. Definitely sounds like a knowledgeable guy and is amazing to watch.
This recording have so much value it’s insane. Amazing work you all are doing here
Appreciate you for tuning.
What did you take away from this episode?
It really does. I’m 30 year trucker trying to transition into something like this. Doesn’t look it easy but looks possible. You guys got good info that’s relatable 💪🏿
@@StringerBell9235 yo trucker(car hauler) in same situation
@@StringerBell92problem with trucking is there's really nothing that is transferable from trucking to IT and cyber security
@@aaronautry1981 exactly bro I feel like a baby trying to get into a new industry. If we really focus and remain teachable I think we can do it 💪🏿
Going thru the Amazon Warehouse and just got my tuition opened for my CS Associates 🔥 Trying to get to a Security Engineer in 4 years
You got this bro
Had to catch this one, great convo. Been following you and Tay for years at this point.
Thanks for tapping in with us
First time watching these guys and solid information they very humble and laid back. 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💯
Thank you 💪🏽🫡
This is one of the best podcast episodes I’ve seen. Hands down! Thanks for the talk 💯
Appreciate that 💪🏽
My new favorite POD it’s giving me clarity and direction for what I want my future to look like in the IT field. Keep doing y’all thing man!
Thank you ❤️
I appreciate this ep 💯
love the podcast. THIS proves we have ALLLLLLLL THE KNOWLEDGE to do it ourSELVES. Keep the gems coming
Will do 💪🏽 thanks for the support
This is one of the best podcasts and interviews that I've ever seen! I feel enlightened! I am really excited for the future in Cybersecurity! I know that there's a tough road ahead, but I'm up for the challenge. Thank you both for your tech and business knowledge. Appreciate yall 🙌🏿
Thanks for the comment! Glad this content helped you out !
Great show guys! Congratulations on your 100th show HD!!!!!🎉
Thank you ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Just found this channel omg 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾very dope concept and comical I’m just joining the tech field so this very cool and inspirational self reflection is real ✔️keep grinding bros
Thanks my guy 💪🏽
Always a solid conversation when HD and Tay link up 🥂
And this is just the stuff we say on camera haha
Yea this is phenomenal man thank you for this
You’re welcome!
Great job fellaas didn’t evenn kno yu kno Tayy. So muh free game. Looking forward to your mentoring program.
A know a little bit of everybody
A Sir Michael Rocks mention was the last thing I expected but dang this whole channel fire bro! Appreciate the solid content!! 🙏🏾🔥🔥🔥
Anybody that recognizes Mikey rocks is good with me 💪🏽💪🏽
Love your podcast since your pretty local to me. Pivoting from medical to Cybersecurity at TCC as well…the nuggets were 🔥!
Thank
You 🙏🏾
Subbed. From Shreveport, did Teleperformance and GDIT... MOVED TO DFW and had my eyes opened
FAX
I’m not into the topic but really I like there conversation gives me vibes to finish entire video. I can’t wait to see next video guys together
Thank you
That’s the goal I try to have with every episode
Networking is tough in Louisiana. I still was able to land roles and even get out of state remote roles. But I want to move to Texas, y'all boys got the juice over there lol !
Lol it’s iight out here
You are doing great work, Sir. Be blessed.
Thank you ❤️
I’m a devops engineer and I throughly enjoyed your podcast. I wish I discovered it sooner lol.
Appreciate it!
Happy i stumbled upon this, my kind of podcast. I'm only in the intro but got my brain ticking. I don't think you need a passion to make it work, but to reach your peak potential you do. I'm red team focused. I personally am a bit selfish too and I think that helps. Selfish in the sense of I want this skillset, it's something I find strokes my ego a bit being able to hack into things lol I don't go around boasting, buuuuut the pride is definitely there. And I want to improve for me. Money is secondary to it. Of course i want fair compensation but the title, ego, skillset, all that stuff has a big stake in my drive.
You do have to be selfish Seth your career that’s how you end up successful
Great show once again!
Thank you.
Any takeaways
great podcast love it!!!
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I am studying for my CompTIA A+ right now and plan on changing my career from Armed Security to Cybersecurity. I have minimal tech experience and knowledge and a degree in music performance so I am at a major disadvantage. Im sticking to the solid route of leveling up little by little, networking, getting my resume reviewed by someoke in the direct field I want, and educating myself as I go. I know it won't be easy, but I figure in 3 years I can be making more than the $40k a year I make and be in a better position with Cybersecurity. I'm seeing networking and a great resume are key, and also what skills you personally learn (tech and soft skills). I see so many successful people in tech, and I see it isn't easy!
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Study the A+ material but skip the cert. It gives you a good baseline. Study for the Sec+ and take that certification instead.
@@ShawnWickTV So learn fundementals from A+ but then use those fundementals to take the SEC+ instead?
@@Officialprodbytreybeats exactly. For someone completely new to information technology the A+ could be beneficial in terms of providing a foundation. The cert is just useless in the grand scheme of things. The Sec+ on other hand will at least put you in the realm of respectability. Lastly, when it’s time to study for the Sec+ use Get Certified Get Ahead by Darril Gibson. It’s the only book you’ll ever need.
@@ShawnWickTVif you’re gonna go to the trouble of studying hundreds of hours you might as well get the cert
Mississippi 🎉. Not many jobs but we find a way else where. I just started my tech journey in Dallas
Bro it’s so crazy how y’all have all these mutuals 🔥
Yeah the world is small in this industry 😂
This was soooo good wow
You’re so late to the party 🤧🤧
Great interview! Keep up the great content! #Subscribed
Thanks my guy
This 🔥🔥
Appreciate it 💪🏽
Great interview!
Thanks my guy 💪🏽
W podcast brothers 👏🏾
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They’re story is so funny, cause I’ve been in the space for 5 years and had similar experiences….😂 I was weak when they said they built a million dollar soc and got laid off…Similar situations 😂 God speed and best to you both.
Thanks man ! Especially to someone who watched the episode 😂😂
Congratulations on that 100th.
Thank you!
I really wish I knew about the transferring credits back in forth in college. I have a BS in sociology and I'm in a Cybersecurity Policy and Compliance Masters right now. I really wish I would've gotten a bachelor's instead. This was such a great podcast episode!
Thank you!
Yeah I forgot who showed me about the transfer credit matrix in college but it was helpful for sure
I have one niece in college and another on the way and I will definitely be showing them!@@TechTualChatter
Word! I took 2 pre-requisites unnecessarily because the counselor misread my transfer docs. If I knew I could dodge pre-reqs all together that would have saved me so much time and money.
@@leporisjackson2060 omg I'm sorry that happened
Bro wtf is that first questions?
@tayontech What resources did you use to study Infosec while in college?
What part of the Sip was ya'll in cuz I know it wasn't Jackson I'd recognize you.
Great episode man
Thanks bro. Where have you been hiding at? Lol
@@TechTualChatter Man we definitely have to catch up, had some life things pop up but I’m getting back into the groove now!
@@cityboycyber bet
Some transparent and organic convo. Shoutout to @TechTualChatter.
Thanks this is why I prefer in person pods lol
My boy tay! 👌🏽💯
Just finished my master's degree in maths for 2-3months ago. Have 2yoe working with databases sql etc., and I know the basics of programming modelling etc. Currently landed a job as a data scientist, but I honestly don't think this is what I am doing. Most of my time is spent monitoring networks by manually clicking, I feel like a robot mouse clicker dude. Once that is done I have 1-2 hours per day doing sql. Do you have any tips on where I can go from here? I try to learn more about analysing pcap files with wireshark etc. but it is really not needed at my current job since they are trying to dumb all my tasks down to literally nothing.
I’m from Shreveport and he right, if you not military or civil service you have to leave the state to get on.
You still there?
My first 6 years was at Barksdale but I been gone about 11 years now.
@QP_100 ole barksdale. Well it’s even worse now than it was back then
hey man i live up in lewisville crazy hearing y’all talk about the general area i’d really appreciate if i could talk to you sometime i’m 23 , would a sec+ then aws cloud thing be a good first move
Hit Me up on LinkedIn
I graduated with a BA degre in visual communications, Interactive Web Development in 2012, worked as a web guy since then and have never even made more than $20/hr……… with alll the knowledge it took to get here, it seems I have to learn sooooooooooooooooooo much more knowledge even still if I want to work in this industry how do you progress how do you learn fast enough to stay relevant??
its the jobs you are taking. try remote . keep your resume out there and stop negotiating low. demand high 100+
Assembly language is used to analyze malware and understand their method of attack
Must be the old way of malware analysis
it’s used to analyze what the malware is doing I.E what syscalls it’s setting up and things of that nature
@@flourish2611 you can say that again..
Louisiana here
How to start my carrier in cybersecurity can you give us a roadmap as i am from a non technical background and from india please guide brother
How about neither one of them
Port City 💪🏿, I'm locked in witya
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"Hangon What's Assembly" .. they taught US BS Basic. That sounds SO familiar. Aight bet. I would like to be a guest on this show now please. Lol
This crazy yall where I stay. I stay in the frisco area too.
I have my Sec+ and studying for net+. Are internships doable still if im not in a college program?
@blazwilson7243 not necessarily but you can probably find an apprenticeship
I’m about to graduate from a community college with a cybersecurity certificate, transferring to uni but I’m not sure weather to major in CIS or cs… thoughts?
I have some videos on that on my podcast
I’m actually in the process of studying for A+ right now, and
I will be taking the Network+ & Security+ afterwards for the full cert stack, so would all 3 be more efficient for a decent paying entry level IT position, or would one be enough to get my foot in the door?
Don’t focus on those certs focus on skills you need for the role
Anything I can do while I work a 9-5? Been trying to study in between and look for an opportunity to actual do training or such in IT but thoughts?
@@MrIainNox yeah there are some nice courses I have pinned to the first comment in this video. Check em out
Nah that Ice Break is OD 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂 who you picking though
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@@TechTualChatter thank you sir.
I came to get some information n nixxas start off by talkin about hoxx
How much experience did you have to get an internship? I'm majoring in Cybersecurity and am trying to get an internship with no experience. So how do I stand out in the crowd of resumes? Please help.
You should get your resume reviewed by an experienced professional.
I heard that is very difficult without anyone experience 😅
bro said Visual Basic was on no job applications 😂
You putting on for the 318
Thank you 💪🏽💪🏽
Question: when doing a resume in cybersecurity should you list the siems, edr tools you used at previous or current company when applying
or is this not allowed due to you disclosing another companies security tools?
List them! I have splunk, crowdstrike, triplex epo, and qradar all listed on the resume. And I was just offered a Sec. Eng with HP. Go for it!
No def say the tools u used
Get's interesting at around the 53:00 minute mark
Being from Mississippi there's not any opportunities I got my engineering job through networking.
Nice bro
Getting my degree in a few months in I.T. I’m from Mississippi as well, but the job outlook not looking too hot
great work a lot of haters in here. keep it up
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Does anybody have any recommendation on what’s the better position to go in within the tech world? I’m very very new to this, but have been looking on & off as I am interested in pursuing a career in tech. I know the most popular is cybersecurity, & I’m assuming that’s the most paid/sought out for? My question is what are other positions that are level to cybersecurity and just as sought out as well?
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Would you recommend trying to get an internship even with 0 technical skills? Little bit of excel but that’s about it.
Not gonna happen. Don’t mean to burst your bubble but why would a company hire an intern with no experience and 0 skills when there’s thousands of potential workers straight out if college with a bachelors to choose from.
If i already have around 4 yrs relative experience with networking am i able to go straight into a cyber job? Will be done with my Bachelor's in a year.
depends on skilset...
@@TechTualChatter I'm in Controls Automation. I have the foundational network knowledge. Configuring VLans, Servers, network segmentation (as we never want the controls network on the corporate public network), network switches ( port security, use putty to check comm / packets, and scripting), configuring user profiles/access, IP and subnetting. Also use Wireshark alot for analyzing network issues. Also deal a lot with setting up DHCP servers but not so much with DNS as we access everything by IP or software. I want to make the transition after I get my certs but am not sure if I'd have to start at that bottom in help desk or be able to go directly to a security role.
Im a dump truck driver looking to change careers into IT. But my biggest question is is it possible to get into tech as a felon? Its been 7-8 years since my charge but should i fully pursue this or am i wasting my time...
They’re are a lot felon friendly tech roles. I think it depends on what the felony was
@@TechTualChatter it was for conspiracy to commit robbery. Nothing cyber related. Also are these positions worthwhile?
@@410outdaway3 typically when you apply to jobs they’ll ask you about said felony.
As for the jobs they can be worthwhile as well
I’m in consulting right now and want to get out. This place has been stressing me out. I Have a background in web development and automation. Feel like it’s hard for me to find anything smh.
Gotta be more strategic
Just trust me
@@TechTualChatter I’m trying bro. It’s affecting my physical and mental health. Definitely going to do my research to increase my chances of getting a new job.
@@hype876 check out some of my free stuff on the page. Hopefully it can help you out
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bruh I’m just trying to make $50k a year……… I just want to be able to live….
I saw your other comments. You need to apply to better gigs since you have all of those skills
@@TechTualChatter I did interview at Oakley once, they asked about 5 questions that even with these skills I couldn’t really answer… I got smoked that interview… then didn’t have the luxury of waiting or be able to get better…. I needed money to live so that’s probably how I got into these lower paying jobs…
@@TheBlackmanIsGod the job search is like dating just because one woman upsets us doesn’t mean the next one will. If you want some one on one help book a call with me
I can't find the link in your bio
Which link
If you know assembly you are a binary king
31:01 Watching this from Minnesota like 🫠
Hearing what people in US make in infosec really makes me question why I still work in EU
I think you guys have better benefits than we have correct?
@TechTualChatter
There are some benefits like compensation for commute, meal vouchers, hospitalization/health insurance (mediocre in Belgium) but it really depends where you are. Here in Belgium you have crazy taxes where almost 3rd of my pay goes to and at the same time the cost of living is skyrocketing everywhere.
@@x0rZ15t yea we get taxed bad as well
😂😂😂 these people need to stop like seriously… y’all don’t want to be challenged to be exposed of being at most help desk junkies
So does he have a bachelor’s degree to be at $500,000. Doing a Cybersecurity Bootcamp now. But I wanted to know if I need a 2 year degree or bachelors to even be considered for a position like him? Thank you. I enjoy hearing both of your perspectives.
He has a bachelor's, but what really got him his total comp is his experience in the field. Get your bachelor's, though & get an internship in cyber if that's where you want to end up to help you break into the field.
Experience is key/90% of what matters.
Get it wherever and however you can
I graduated in 2012 I learned to work with HTML, CSS, JavaScriot, AJAX, ActionScript 3.0( before it died), a little my SQL and A little PHP, and still have never even been able to make $20/hr
With all those skills you most be doing something wrong
@@TechTualChatter ABSOLUTELY BUT WHAT AM I DOING WRONG!!! Nobody has been able to help with that!
@@TechTualChatter the expections that I always run into is to be like a senior developer for less than jr developer pay, I could never find jobs that wanted to pay a serious adult wage.
I think you should stop being a developer
@@TechTualChatter yet you guys are on here speaking like anyone can be a developer…. That’s my whole thing….. not everyone has the same brain and it’s like computer people don’t understand that, and expect everyone to be able to code and understand everything at the same level, and if not then there’s no room for you!!!
I gotta screen shot your response!
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Thank you for tuning in
I don't enjoy the conversation that has nothing to do with cybersecurity or tech.
Thanks for watching
500k ..... i smell cap. 16 years in the industry.... half consulting. BS
Hating not a good look on you 😂😂
@@TechTualChatter "hate" .... arent yall tired of using that as a excuse when you cant back up claims that dont make sense. Lets be mature here. Not even FAANG after stock options is 500k most times. Youd have to be running a MSP or something similar to bring in that type of consulting bread
@@relly793 if you really knew what you were talking about then you’d know FAANG isn’t the only way to get paid
From a customer point of view, Optiv are terrible, its like they dragged the analysts off the street, they are clueless
Maybe on the mss side but on the fusion center side the analyst are better because they work with dedicated clients
@@TechTualChatter 🤣Fusion was even worse.
@jjjjjkkkkk not ours will Atleast when I was there 😂 we had the biggest contract
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This is embarrassingly misleading. Y’all need to stop telling people this comp like it’s common and like anyone can do it. It’s not like that. This whole thing is a farce.
Man shut up 😂😂😂
If you watch the episode we never said anybody can get this comp
@@TechTualChatter I’m talking about this video and your other content. I’m 98% certain you’re leveraging the recent wave of hope among folks trying to ‘get into tech’ to fuel their very unrealistic idea of their shot (chance) at the bigger dollars. I’m not naive. You’re promoting the field strictly on the basis of earning potential, hence the emphasis you placed on TC. You’re not fooling everyone, my guy. Why not focus on what the work actually entails instead?
@@0xggbrnr you’re not familiar with my content at all
@@TechTualChatter Yeah, okay. lol
I’m in this field…500k? 🧢🧢🧢
With multiple jobs definitely possible.
Credit karma was offering me 300k base salary last year
500k total comp is doable
Chris, you've to know this isn't entry-level pay but people who are usually seniors or have years of experience. This is total compensation meaning your base salary+ stocks and bonuses.
@@DJGewd You can get that with one job depending upon your level. It’s not uncommon
@@Rells26 500k is not uncommon. Really?
It’s a tech podcast …. Why are we asking questions about which woman you’d choose to do stuff with ? Sorry but it’s starting to give weird vibes
It’s an icebreaker…
#2 my platform is also one of one you never know what I’ll start off the pod with