English viewer so thank you very much for adding subtitles to this and the great previous videos. Regarding the lens shading issue there are actually third party apps like Motioncam(that is mainly used to record raw video with smartphones) that can disable the vignette correction so you wouldn't have that issue... This was one of the most fun videos I've seen around and hopefully more people will be into this kind of modding on phones because they really do have a lot of potential :)
Indeed, this idea is very unique. I also like his video. The transformation is a very interesting thing. I think I will ask them to have an English translation.
yeah, but if it disables the vignette correction, wouldn't it also turn off all the other image processing algorithms? if it's just capturing in raw, they were already doing that.
They actually have an English channel called Geekerwan, and they took the extra step to re-record all the A-rolls in English. Only down side is that the English channel uploads way later and there's only a selection of videos they would translate.
@@FlameRat_YehLon Yes I am already subscribed to that but not all the videos are in English. I'm sure he'll grow that channel quickly if he uploads more videos
@@abdulcelilarslan6003 with the amount of backlog, well, it should still take some time. But I'd say it's better they do it the slow way, adapting the information to make it relevant to English users, as it's unlike in China where most tech lovers are familiar with things outside China to some degree.
Eey Geekerwan, this is a modification I've wanted to see someone DIY for quite some time, really cool to see it in action! I would love to do this on an Oneplus 8 pro with software modifications that allow fullress raw in combination with a macro lens :D By the way, since those vignette corrections for the original lens are now causing you issues, would you mind exploring your creation with "MotionCam Pro"? On your device it allows RAW recording on all lenses at 30 fps and you can turn off the Vignette correction in the software. You also have fulll manual control. But there are many different ways you can record that will allow you to have more creative control on the output. If you decide to look into Motioncam Pro, be sure do join the BETA program, the normal pro version is currently very outdated! Thanks for giving us all these exciting videos about tuning your old android phone, measuring the "real world" difference in smartphone SOC's performance and efficiency and now showing us what benefits/cons doing an external lens modification to your smartphone will have :).
hey domistroy, we're on the same page, i've been wanting to do this mod for a long time, and i'd love to do it on the op8pro and use motioncam to record 4k raw
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甚至不能请个妹子来拍样片
極客的下場是這樣的了😂
女装即可
基壳弯是这样的
雲飛女裝😂
玩具龍：哈哈哈哈哈
相機廠商努力小型化
手機廠商努力大型化
有趣、有趣😂
这是我见过《植入广告》做的最高明的创意❤
手機廠商曾經越做越小，直到發現它可以拿來看A片
大厂软广哈哈
真厲害的改造🎉🎉🎉
我就喜歡你翻車的樣子❤
他不翻车，怎么能体现出金主爸爸的牛逼呢😂，所以翻车才能赚到更多的米
@@weihu6498哈哈
我看到影片標題的第一個念頭是，這幫搞機大佬懂攝影嗎？
這才想到他們何止懂，人家是專業的。
他們只要是3C相關的基本上都懂，除了高深一點的程式碼，好像沒看過他們表演，大陸做3C相關的頻道是真的都有硬實力在的，除了一些根本就是搞笑的頻道，寫代碼、磨U頂蓋、液氮超頻、 攝影等，幾乎都硬核到普通人不會懂的
原來是你不懂吧⋯⋯
@@camfocus8888 請問你真的有去b站上看過他們的影片嗎？你就隨便拿其中一個領域出來說，他們是只會一點皮毛騙完全不懂的人，還是真的有實力，你就在這酸吧，還是你都看電獺少女那種頻道，當然不會深入啊，你連示波器都看不懂吧
English viewer so thank you very much for adding subtitles to this and the great previous videos. Regarding the lens shading issue there are actually third party apps like Motioncam(that is mainly used to record raw video with smartphones) that can disable the vignette correction so you wouldn't have that issue... This was one of the most fun videos I've seen around and hopefully more people will be into this kind of modding on phones because they really do have a lot of potential :)
Indeed, this idea is very unique. I also like his video. The transformation is a very interesting thing. I think I will ask them to have an English translation.
he have a second channel with english ai voice over
@@apktesl3269 they have an English version of the channel, I think that's obvious for all of us haha. Sad they don't post on it much.
I really hope he can add English audio tracks to future videos
yeah, but if it disables the vignette correction, wouldn't it also turn off all the other image processing algorithms? if it's just capturing in raw, they were already doing that.
That was incredibly interesting, thank you!
I was actually really surprised at the way the original lens has been designed.
选择E卡口，就是错误的开始，建议改用M43卡口再玩一次，把法兰距搞精确了，你会发现新世界。
m43没有多少手动头吧？
@@liuqiprcm43電影鏡有不少，o記和P記本身也有不少鏡頭也可以手動
你做了我想做的事, 我之前想用Nokia 的4合一鏡頭改成單反鏡
Hey Geekerwan you should make your own lens to go with this camera.
Loved the video and thank you for including English captions
我觉得这个机器改m43卡口更合适 而且还有非常多镜头可以选 当然这样改造验证性质远大于实用了, 其实现代相机和手机的成像和运算部分相似程度比胶片时代高多了，但毕竟是手机主板，体积快赶上apsc机器了，手机提升摄影质量方便日常使用记录还是很好的
改造后直出的效果不错，10:44 的 P1 和 P2 肤色都比 P3 自然，P3 过饱和
You're my first ever non-native and non-English subscribed channel. Keep up the good work! I hope you release more English content, though haha
They actually have an English channel called Geekerwan, and they took the extra step to re-record all the A-rolls in English. Only down side is that the English channel uploads way later and there's only a selection of videos they would translate.
@@FlameRat_YehLon Yes I am already subscribed to that but not all the videos are in English. I'm sure he'll grow that channel quickly if he uploads more videos
The best tech channel on youtube imo
@@abdulcelilarslan6003 with the amount of backlog, well, it should still take some time. But I'd say it's better they do it the slow way, adapting the information to make it relevant to English users, as it's unlike in China where most tech lovers are familiar with things outside China to some degree.
@@Niraloks即使在我们中国他们也是最优秀的团队之一，即使他们接厂商的广告但仍然坚持做一些独立、客观、公正的测评
懂得玩攝影的都會知道CMOS小就是硬傷，物理學不是靠算法就能違反的，算法只能錦上添花，不能單車變摩托。魚和熊掌不可兼得，既然大部份人都選了手機的便利就老老實實別惦記著專業相機的質量。這裡誠心建議所有想拿著小機器拍高質量照片的人重溫一下高中物理課的光學理論，這已經足以解釋大部份小CMOS的硬傷
物理衹是因為未發現或未發明
@@cieyk4158？这也要硬杠一下？
老派作风
@@featheringer 自己無知就別出來獻醜，高中物理誰沒學過diffraction,誰沒學過不同波段的光在同一稜鏡內的折射角度不同？單單這一個問題就卡死像素密度，提高解像度就必須整大CMOS，不能縮小pixel。别跟我扯什么用算法解决airy disk大小的問題。
你還是回爐重造吧
我支持你的觀點。
感光元件的大小，決定了能感應多少光源。這是直接影響成像的質素。不然為什麼f2.8的鏡頭比f4的貴一大截，可以說是又貴又重又大，他們的實質差距就是一級光圈。
這裡試想想1英寸與FF 的CMOS之間差了多少級光圈？
至於科技嘅影響，暫時沒有突破性的發展。你在進步時，別人也在進步。
你只可以說現在手機拍照，可以取替了DC仔。
但與真正相機是完全不一樣的方向，我們攝影需要的是可操控性。而手機因為針對嘅客戶群不一樣，它是以自動為主，而過多的自動干預也不適合喜歡攝影的人群。
之前买过一个手机壳，通过一个杠杆，让手机镜头在左上角的时候，可以在右上角的按钮可以按到音量键拍照，真心好用，唯一的缺点就是重量重了点
现在一些自拍杆有拍摄按钮，通过蓝牙连接给手机按快门
底不大沒用啊，最大1英吋打死。還不如反過來思考，給哈蘇X2D加上高通8gen3和安卓系統~
接不到相機廠商的廣告 😂
我敢肯定這樣改一定有人拿哈蘇玩崩鐵加原神啟動
這樣不好玩，大家想看的是手機鏡頭能否一拼專業相機，可以打遊戲根本不算什麼
相机买的人小，做个好用又没bug 的系统不易，你这个idea，在成本上很难实现
不错不错❤
十年前的Sony QX100 其實已經給出了最佳方案，那時就已經用上一英吋大底透過無線方式連接xperia z2， 如果該方案持續升級下去，估計A7系列的單眼都不用賣啦
當時連線速度是硬傷…我自己的實際上手印象，就是連線過程要等上15到30秒，這真的很難讓我自己歸類於可用
而且這玩意最大的問題就是如果我都要多帶一台東西出門，我到底為啥不帶一台正常的RX100出門就好了，當年我記得兩者價格也差不多…
@@featheringer 我覺得應該要在手機做個電子觸點，一接上去就開APP連線，速度比較好。但是，索尼手機本身軟體就是垃圾級硬傷
那個時候有個Olympus A01 有提供API 我自己的寵物監控就是用A01魔改的
可以用佳能ef转索尼e的增光环来减低系数，不过的确会有鬼影，但up主的样片场景也没有很明显的逆光
好像oppo也有跟
改成這樣也很強！
厲害啦~
終於搞個大的了
Eey Geekerwan, this is a modification I've wanted to see someone DIY for quite some time, really cool to see it in action! I would love to do this on an Oneplus 8 pro with software modifications that allow fullress raw in combination with a macro lens :D
By the way, since those vignette corrections for the original lens are now causing you issues, would you mind exploring your creation with "MotionCam Pro"? On your device it allows RAW recording on all lenses at 30 fps and you can turn off the Vignette correction in the software. You also have fulll manual control. But there are many different ways you can record that will allow you to have more creative control on the output. If you decide to look into Motioncam Pro, be sure do join the BETA program, the normal pro version is currently very outdated!
Thanks for giving us all these exciting videos about tuning your old android phone, measuring the "real world" difference in smartphone SOC's performance and efficiency and now showing us what benefits/cons doing an external lens modification to your smartphone will have :).
I think the application, which calls the Camera API in Android is still relying on the same firmware (which is what applies these to the camera iirc).
hey domistroy, we're on the same page, i've been wanting to do this mod for a long time, and i'd love to do it on the op8pro and use motioncam to record 4k raw
有趣有趣~
absolute brilliant experiment bro...... fun to watch.
有個做的也不錯fotogeeker魔改大神，誇張來形容。
推，精彩
都用raw做後製了。可以用Gcam調參數拍吧？
很有搞头，期待形成规模产业，颠覆根本，打掉老钱。
反向也證明了設計光路有多重要。看樣張樹枝那綠邊,地獄啊
太猛了吧~~~ 請收下我的膝蓋~~~~~
English viewer here. Thanks for English subtitles geekerwan
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是的，这确实非常像一个广告，但是极客湾这个频道有一个暗号，就是“上手体验”，一般会在视频开头出现，如果视频开头出现了“上手体验”，那么这个视频就是一个广告，但这期视频并没有出现，所以我认为这单纯是手机计算摄影效果好的结果，我相信极客湾他不会欺骗观众的@@user-ps6gd5nw2n
@user-ps6gd5nw2n what was he marketing in this video?
说明一英寸大底并没有在镜头上引起短板，或者说有一点，但通过计算摄影很好地弥补了
Your work here is outstanding! Thank you Geekerwan.
可惜1英寸底对于可换镜头系统来说还是太小了，广角、高感、虚化都很难有较好的表现，不过这个概念很不错，现在的M43和APS-C相机也都能做得很小了，如果它们有智能手机的芯片、能装SIM卡，想想就很美
活儿整的真好
一個字：神！
結果不是重點
重點是折騰的過程！
很酷的一集🤣🤣🤣
哈哈！X1000 Pro，我的才X100 Pro~~
Thank you guys for adding English translation, it is very much appreciated 😊
1寸底的尼康1系统是彻底被人忘记了。虽然都是自动头而且几乎没有专门为它设计的副厂手动头，应该也没办法轻松转接。
干脆弄个m43卡口，然后装一个0.58x减焦环再上大光圈手动头，那样才能用1英寸底拍出大底的风味。
這個思路很不錯欸 隨便一顆50/1.4+0.58x效果都會很好
kickstart有魔改顯微鏡 XD 而且不用拆機，直接裝套即可使用
再加上比抖音更强的美颜，太完美了。😂😂
太棒了
期待接個600mm鏡頭 拍個真正的長焦來對比甚麼30倍100倍之類的
那肯定干爆数码计算咯，但你说有什么意义呢，这机器的成像部分和一英寸机器其实没差，转接很大的镜头可能还没有黑卡那个200mm效果好
太瘋狂了 我喜歡
6:35 可以用一個圓形的盤盛載著所有鏡頭模組，要用的時候旋轉哪個圓盤更改他們(鏡頭模組)的位置。這樣不就行了嗎？
Are we getting this video on the English channel?
牛人啊
哈哈哈哈哈，牛逼❤
我提一个想法，你可以考虑是不是一个好的点子。机身不用打印，用胶片相机，把后背拆开。放个手机或者树莓派。如果再高级一些，买个SONY的截幅cmos对接树莓派，或者直接买个全幅nikon d70拆机保主板和屏。终极形态把机身的光圈、快门、ISO数据对接到树梅派，或者飞线到板子上。恭喜你，喜欢能成功，你就创造了一个新的产业。
@@bug7697 项目ara，模块化思路过于理想化，它忽略了整体结构对于模块的限制，反过来模块也限制了整体结构，换句话说它们本是内聚的整体，完全没有必要拆开替换。用户一但选择了一个模块90/100不会再更换其它模块，那模块的意义又是什么呢。哎
能夠知道算法到底提升了拍照多少品質，對我來說已經是很大的收穫了
敲碗exynos2400
有點牛
魔改鏡頭😂
三星s24几时评测 等很久了
牛逼🐂🔥
第一張是拍靈異照片嗎😂
影像极客Fotogeeker?
有趣
用M4/3或者Nikon 1的卡口會更好吧
無反時代開始的現代鏡頭都是電子鏡頭，也就是沒與機身建立完整通訊的情況下除了變焦、對焦的功能以外都無法使用…甚至有部分鏡頭是電動變焦與電子對焦環，轉接後啥事都不能幹
所以用什麼接環差異不大，關鍵是CMOS都還是同一片，他們選Sony E接環也只剩下轉接其它傳統機械老鏡方便而已
可是E環廣角鏡頭選擇少呀，就算是APS-C鏡頭等效焦距也要乘1.8
Love it
That was my thought actually
0:34 galaxy s4 zoom 懷念啊🥲
和Samsung Galaxy Camera比哪個更老🤔s4 zoom沒什麼印象
三星出過兩部類似，然後就沒然後了。個人買過第一代，影相比普通手機好的地方是有14倍光學來影遠的東西，近處影相其實沒太大分別，而且反而比普通手機不方便。總的來說就是人們會隨手就拿個手機出門因經常用到，但不會隨手帶著相機。
10:28 这里提到的相片偏肉感觉和镜头有很大关系，上GM应该会好很多吧。
SONY以前的外掛式鏡頭 缺點就是連線穩定度太拉基 還有其他家的 不過早期很多限制就是了 至少那時候有一吋跟(真 )光學變焦鏡頭 不是手機那種定焦鏡頭 真光學變焦手機三星跟華碩搞過Zoom系列 太重 所以叫好不叫座 更早有altek leo
我有sony QX1 😂收藏品。先机链接手机还能换镜头
Test the Exynos 2400 vs the 8 Gen 3 both in the S24+
以前320w 500w当道的时候 我记得台湾有个xx牌子的手机 就是可换镜头的10x光变ccd
Thanks
手機相機的用意是，相機可以帶有手機的功能，可以傳訊息、接電話、上社群、多管道分享照片，不知道這台用了18650電池包的相機續航力是多久呢？感覺應該很厲害
能想到這個企劃來反推X100 pro的拍照
真是牛批！
Do speed boosters help it?
摩托羅拉就有一款能加裝攝相頭的手機
那玩意的底巨小，也不是加装镜头，完全就是另外一个变焦小相机被盖。真正能加装镜头的是小米 12s Ultra概念版
幾乎徒手搓一台相機的概念了😂
小米14U😂可以改😂
hh 不错。
作為攝影師, 覺得你找一個會調色的專業人員幫你後期處理會比較好...
最近還在考慮入手一台單眼，但後來覺得沒有太多場景可以適用，但後來想想搞台拍照厲害的手機就好😂
照片的清晰度和质感还是有差别的
你们的raw后期水平有点普通了，才会拉不开差距，当然可能是为了凸显手机调教得好，但这种题材还是适合专业的tim去一拍即合
your voice is much better in English , love u ❤
这期视频不是应该Tim做更合适嘛😂
Tim的团队搞个游记，拍些唯美的东西更合适吧！
动手能力挺强悍。你们有没有想做个袖珍手持激光打印机？
用gcam測光調色參數
你可以用我的松下cm1来对比一下。
我王多鱼头了😂
颜色问题是你的镜头CRA和原来sensor上microlens相关的设计不一样，调lens correction也没用的。还有你扒下来的壳子上也是有电路的。
手机相机比的就是软件，这应该就是iPhone始终不输Android的原因？
我必須說，那手手真可愛
承重墙的手？
Tell us about Exynos 2400
出個外接單反攝像頭
Try Moioncam and shoot your next video with it please
你缺一个厉害的后期😂
C mount不好嗎？
最輕量健身器材😂
高级业配
應該要換用可刷ROM的手機吧
牛逼
现在广告做的这么高端了吗？
i think you should use xiaomi mi 14 ultra for better result?
Just an ad video, don't mind.
视频录制于一个月前，还没出xiaomi 14ultra