Do Persons Have Souls? | Episode 108 | Closer To Truth
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- Опубліковано 20 чер 2024
- Is the "Real You" a special substance that is both nonphysical and immortal? Most people think "Certainly". Most scientists think "Certainly Not". What some theologians think may trouble you. Featuring interviews with J.P. Moreland, Nancey Murphy, Daniel Dennett, Peter van Inwagen, and Huston Smith.
Season 1, Episode 8 - #CloserToTruth
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I've watched every single one of Bob's videos and sadly I have to say no one really knows anything and we're just infantile minds trying to make sense of everything. But it is entertaining to watch nonetheless.
Good point!
True even our own existence. Is based upon belief.
Yet he misrepresents most scientists position on the question. They do not say, "Surely not!" Instead, they recognize the unfalsifiable nature of the claim which means that it can neither be proven nor disproven. And by default there is no sufficient reason to accept it as true. Calling "consciousness" a "soul" is merely superfluous!
@@coffeetalk924 the fact is the soul may exist. Or it may not. We may not exist at all. Only a dream or ilisuon of reality.
@@duaneholcomb8408 that is correct. However, my point remains valid and unchallenged. Affirmatives, either for or against the proposition of "souls" or "existence" (call it simulation hypothesis, dreams, illusions, brain in a vat hypothesis, etc. if you like) are epistemically unwarranted. And thus, there is no reason to "believe" a claim based on "may be's" or "may be not's" that do not so much as even allow for inferential statistical probability. Nonsense!
I have found experimenting with psychedelics in middle age has been a profound awakening on what I am in relation to everything, a journey everyone should take when they are ready
Psychedelics alone prove consciousness is in the brain because DMT is JUST a substance (C12H16N2) that affects neurotransmitters. This doesn’t prove we have souls this just proves how little we know about the brain
Drugs are sign of a week person, that numbs themself to Deny reality.
Weak
People don't see reality but have to numb themselves.
Nope, too afraid imma unlock schizophrenia. I'll still to meditation
Soul is just a religous word for consciousness.
Phenomenal spacetime and psychological time is just a scientific term for "soul".
Well more specifically it's your consciousness that continues after your body dies. So it has a separateness and life apart from the body and brain. It's also the thing that makes you you across the different versions of you that you move through throughout your lifetime.
The first professor’s assertion leaves much to be desired.
..🤣..he looks like he could put money on it.
Surely you're not referring to Daniel Dennett ?
@@Here.now123
Pray tell, what can you possibly mean by you experience spirit daily ? Are you the only one doing that ? Maybe it’s a disease Also, what is a ‘thought drawer’?
Robert, I generally like and admire these video essays, but this one frustrates me, because you skipped over the tough questions -- questions I believe you are as likely to harbor as I am. To name a few: if there’s an immortal soul, what is it like before a person’s born? Is it simply a blank sheet? An outline? How is that a meaningful entity? At the other end of life, how does life-experience stamp a person’s immortal soul? Is it the sum of all life experiences? Is it what you are when you die? If the former, how does the soul of a brutal murderer in early life who becomes a saintlike penitent in later life sum up? If the latter, how does an Alzheimer’s patient, who dies in an infantile state, having lost a lifetime of memories, spend eternity? Questions like these, seriously considered, lead to the conclusion that “the soul” is an empty, incoherent concept.
Hi Clay your rational reasoning is refreshing to read as I have asked all the same questions you have 🤔 I found the answers in a book called 'Phenomenon' (Amazon) by Neil Fulcher 'Before Conception and Beyond' it is well worth a read and has the answers you looking for 🌈🎱
@@phenomenon8 words of any language is a medium and might be as slippery as a boat 🚤 on the surface of a body of water 💦 pushed into any direction by the wind of reasoning and logic. Phenomenology might not be immune to it either.
@@scoreprinceton I thought that too Bala but having read the book 'Phenomenon'📔 by Neil Fulcher it really does practically answer those questions everyone else avoids or will not answer because they really don't know 🌈🎱
Just because people can't answer random questions about something that they have no recollection of doesn't mean it doesn't exist, it just means we have no practical knowledge or understanding about it
I'll try to answer your tough (actually very easy) questions: 1-if there’s an immortal soul? -yes, all human and animal soul are immortals.
what is it like before a person’s born? -"First, "they" will judge you by your accumulated "karma" from your previous life, then, "they" will find you guilty and you must pay for it. Next "they" will prepare you to come back, (reincarnation), but erasing all your memories from "before". That will answer most of your questions.
An Alzheimer’s patient becomes quite conscious after dying, because the pathology affects only the organic body, not the soul.
Your questions are quite elementary Mr. Farris, because your "soul" is an empty, incoherent concept at present time. As a matter of fact, most people carry only 2% of their "original soul" in their body's cell. That seems to be your case.... I wonder where is the other 98% ? I think this one will frustrates you most of all ?
Some ascribe that consciousness is a symptom of the non-material soul; a consciousness which is present in a greatly reduced way, even at the cellular level. The soul cannot be measured by material apparatus, but it's invisible presence has it's symptoms. Other invisible forces such as time and gravity are known somewhat by their symptoms, but still not fully understood. Soul is a completely different category of energy, compared to the energies of the material manifestation which we attempt to measure by our limited means.
I've had a strong spiritual awakening in the last six months. The things that happened to me, I'm now 💯 sure we have a soul, and we come from heaven, and go back after we pass. Before my awakening, I was the exact opposite bin belief.
How would the old you have responded to the new you, in this post?
@@TurinTuramber Hello. I would have easily said no. I never believed in God, so didn't believe in heaven. And my biggest fear was death.
After my awakening I realized my ego was dropped like a sack of potatoes, and my views on most things have radically changed.
I'm only just starting to come out of the dark night of the soul, I had three months of bliss, then three months of the lowest low. All I can do is trust, and have patience, that my spirit will return to me.
It's either gone on vacation somewhere, or is sleeping.
The last six months has been the greatest highs and the lowest lows.
But the knowledge I gained keeps me strong.
@@KenStentiford dropping of the Ego(or the restriction of it) does tend to allow real reality to become obvious. I understand your experience totally and I am happy for you and your new understandings. Bless you 😃
@@garychartrand7378 Yes I am living in the real reality now. I am a completely different person, and the main reason is my ego has been erased. It seems my decades of severe anxiety, which really equates to suffering and sacrifice, has turned into love and compassion. Bless you and your future my friend 🙂
@@KenStentiford I agree with everything you say BUT it impossible to "erase" the Ego. It is your impression of yourself (even your new self). Ego is who you 'think' you are.
It's like, Ego and soul are travelling through life in the same bus (our bodies). The trouble is that MOST people have the crazy Ego driving the bus - quite frequently into the ditch. The solution is for the sane soul to take over the driving and to send the Ego to the back of the bus to be dealt with at an appropriate time. I know from experience that the Ego can come to trust the loving soul. This results in a much quieter and calmer Ego. You cannot kill ego - unless you kill yourself. But soul can master the Ego, instead of letting Ego control everything. I hope this helps your world view. Much peace and love to you and yours.
I really wish i could believe the nonsense that the first guy was talking about. It's hard to imagine how people can talk like that without bursting out laughing at the absurdity of it.
after about 30 seconds of that guy i stopped the video.. i had seen all the nonsense i needed to see
it really baffles me how any normal adult would believe the nonsense this guy spewed out... bizarre
"immaterial substance ??" - How can we substantiate anything immaterial? Just a legend in my opinion.
What is gravity?
magnets how do they work?
I believe that sometime in the future the concept of the "soul" will be understood in the scientific community as what we now call "conciousness". I think these concepts are interchangeable and it's our lack deep lack of understanding into the human phenomenon of consciousness that's causing the divide between the spiritual community and the scientific community.
Humans aren't the only conscious beings. It isn't special, and can't detach from physical brains.
@@sagenev
I never claimed that humans are the only conscious beings. And how do you know that conciousness is substrate dependent?
Sould are defined as living after death, consciousness regularly ceases as we sleep
@@acetate909 because it is. Consciousness is a process, and without stuff that happens, there is no process
@@tedarcher9120
If conciousness ceases during sleep then how do you explain lucid dreaming? How do you explain dreams based on memories during sleep?
its just crazy that how everything just seems to work its amazing and strange, the fact we can even think of these things
*Great subject and Closer to Truth is an excellent channel.*
soul = energy + information (at quantum level) ?
Yes
Only theory
Да.📝⚡✝️
Дух је од Бога дат сваком човјеку -тијелу.💓
Тијело је исто дато од Бога 👬
Ум је исто дат од Бога ⚡😊...
Свето Тројство! ✝️
Soul equals the universe becoming aware of itself
Thank you for these videos. They are fascinating.
My new understandings of what many call 'God' - resulting from some of the extraordinary ongoing after-effects relating to my NDE...
Myoho-Renge-Kyo represents the identity of what some scientists are now referring to as the unified field of consciousnesses. In other words, it’s the essence of all existence and non-existence - the ultimate creative force behind planets, stars, nebulae, people, animals, trees, fish, birds, and all phenomena, manifest or latent. All matter and intelligence are simply waves or ripples manifesting to and from this core source. Consciousness (enlightenment) is itself the actual creator of everything that exists now, ever existed in the past, or will exist in the future - right down to the minutest particles of dust - each being an individual ripple or wave. The big difference between chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo and most other conventional prayers is that instead of depending on a ‘middleman’ to connect us to our state of inner enlightenment, we’re able to do it ourselves. That’s because chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo allows us to tap directly into our enlightened state by way of this self-produced sound vibration. ‘Who or What Is God?’ If we compare the concept of God being a separate entity that is forever watching down on us, to the teachings of Nichiren, it makes more sense to me that the true omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence of what most people perceive to be God, is the fantastic state of enlightenment that exists within each of us. Some say that God is an entity that’s beyond physical matter - I think that the vast amount of information continuously being conveyed via electromagnetic waves in today’s world gives us proof of how an invisible state of God could indeed exist. For example, it’s now widely known that specific data relayed by way of electromagnetic waves has the potential to help bring about extraordinary and powerful effects - including an instant global awareness of something or a mass emotional reaction. It’s also common knowledge that these invisible waves can easily be used to detonate a bomb or to enable NASA to control the movements of a robot as far away as the Moon or Mars - none of which is possible without a receiver to decode the information that’s being transmitted. Without the receiver, the data would remain impotent. In a very similar way, we need to have our own ‘receiver’ switched on so that we can activate a clear and precise understanding of our own life, all other life and what everything else in existence is. Chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo each day helps us to achieve this because it allows us to reach the core of our enlightenment and keep it switched on. That’s because Myoho-Renge-Kyo represents the identity of what scientists now refer to as the unified field of consciousnesses. To break it down - Myoho represents the Law of manifestation and latency (Nature) and consists of two alternating states. For example, the state of Myo is where everything in life that’s not obvious to us exists - including our stored memories when we’re not thinking about them - our hidden potential and inner emotions whenever they’re dormant - our desires, our fears, our wisdom, happiness, karma - and more importantly, our enlightenment. The other state, ho, is where everything in Life exists whenever it becomes evident to us, such as when a thought pops up from within our memory - whenever we experience or express our emotions - or whenever a good or bad cause manifests as an effect from our karma. When anything becomes apparent, it merely means that it’s come out of the state of Myo (dormancy/latency) and into a state of ho (manifestation). It’s the difference between consciousness and unconsciousness, being awake or asleep, or knowing and not knowing. The second law - Renge - Ren meaning cause and ge meaning effect, governs and controls the functions of Myoho - these two laws of Myoho and Renge, not only function together simultaneously but also underlies all spiritual and physical existence. The final and third part of the tri-combination - Kyo, is the Law that allows Myoho to integrate with Renge - or vice versa. It’s the great, invisible thread of energy that fuses and connects all Life and matter - as well as the past, present and future. It’s also sometimes termed the Universal Law of Communication - perhaps it could even be compared with the string theory that many scientists now suspect exists. Just as the cells in our body, our thoughts, feelings and everything else is continually fluctuating within us - all that exists in the world around us and beyond is also in a constant state of flux - constantly controlled by these three fundamental laws. In fact, more things are going back and forth between the two states of Myo and ho in a single moment than it would ever be possible to calculate or describe. And it doesn’t matter how big or small, famous or trivial anything or anyone may appear to be, everything that’s ever existed in the past, exists now or will exist in the future, exists only because of the workings of the Laws ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’ - the basis of the four fundamental forces, and if they didn’t function, neither we nor anything else could go on existing. That’s because all forms of existence, including the seasons, day, night, birth, death and so on, are moving forward in an ongoing flow of continuation - rhythmically reverting back and forth between the two fundamental states of Myo and ho in absolute accordance with Renge - and by way of Kyo. Even stars are dying and being reborn under the workings of what the combination ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’ represents. Nam, or Namu - which mean the same thing, are vibrational passwords or keys that allow us to reach deep into our life and fuse with or become one with ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’. On a more personal level, nothing ever happens by chance or coincidence, it’s the causes that we’ve made in our past, or are presently making, that determine how these laws function uniquely in each of our lives - as well as the environment from moment to moment. By facing east, in harmony with the direction that the Earth is spinning, and chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo for a minimum of, let’s say, ten minutes daily to start with, any of us can experience actual proof of its positive effects in our lives - even if it only makes us feel good on the inside, there will be a definite positive effect. That’s because we’re able to pierce through the thickest layers of our karma and activate our inherent Buddha Nature (our enlightened state). By so doing, we’re then able to bring forth the wisdom and good fortune that we need to challenge, overcome and change our adverse circumstances - turn them into positive ones - or manifest and gain even greater fulfilment in our daily lives from our accumulated good karma. This also allows us to bring forth the wisdom that can free us from the ignorance and stupidity that’s preventing us from accepting and being proud of the person that we indeed are - regardless of our race, colour, gender or sexuality. We’re also able to see and understand our circumstances and the environment far more clearly, as well as attract and connect with any needed external beneficial forces and situations. As I’ve already mentioned, everything is subject to the law of Cause and Effect - the ‘actual-proof-strength’ resulting from chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo always depends on our determination, sincerity and dedication. For example, the levels of difference could be compared to making a sound on a piano, creating a melody, producing a great song, and so on. Something else that’s very important to always respect and acknowledge is that the Law (or if you prefer God) is in everyone and everything. NB: There are frightening and disturbing sounds, and there are tranquil and relaxing sounds. It’s the emotional result of any noise or sound that can trigger off a mood or even instantly change one. When chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo each day, we are producing a sound vibration that’s the password to our true inner-self - this soon becomes apparent when you start reassessing your views on various things - such as your fears and desires etc. The best way to get the desired result when chanting is not to view things conventionally - rather than reaching out to an external source, we need to reach into our own lives and bring our needs and desires to fruition from within - including the good fortune and strength to achieve any help that we may need. Chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo also reaches out externally and draws us towards, or draws towards us, what we need to make us happy from our environment. For example, it helps us to be in the right place at the right time - to make better choices and decisions and so forth. We need to think of it as a seed within us that we’re watering and bringing sunshine to for it to grow, blossom and bring forth fruit or flowers. It’s also important to understand that everything we need in life, including the answer to every question and the potential to achieve every dream, already exists within us. My autobiography explaining how I, and others I've told, have used this chant to change our poisons into medicine titled: 'Saved by the Light of the Buddha Within', is now available at Amazon Books for 99cents (the lowest Amazon allowed me to price it)To read more about Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo please read Tina Turner's new book: Happiness Becomes You -- or Google 'Let go, and let God' by Olivia Newton-John.
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What will you do when you are brought to the Supreme Court of the All Mighty God in the next life..!?
Denial only helps you sink lower in your accountability to God..!
@@haticeergun7618 I'm more inclined to feel concerned about what you are going to do when you are asked to explain how you are in any position to play judge and jury over others. I have not denied God at all - only your narrow-minded and self-centered conception of God has done that.
"Soul" is a linguistic convenience. Nothing more. No more is needed.
Persons are souls.
Yes both the same thing that is totally imagined.
No individual persons.
No individual souls.
No individual has ever watched a video.
No individuals.
😊 Here we are . Stuck inside this thing......
@@rickhobman3322 💗🤯
@@Kali_Yugahhhh Stuck in this slob called matter.
So far as we know, persons are persons. The additional label "soul" is a completely unfalsifiable argument, which means that it can neither be proven nor disproven. Calling "consciousness" a "soul" rather than a current mystery or gap in our understanding that, incidently, may or may not offer natural explainations one day is just a "soul of the gaps" argument. An affirmative position, either for or against the claim, is just poor critical thinking and bad epistemology.
Great episode!
Having seen a spirit without a body...I have no doubts...but until one sees it for oneself it is impossible to be certain...im lucky that I knew a courageous soul strong enough to show me the truth
Sorry, you've never existed without your body.
Please, tell us of your experience.
@@Ascendlocal my brother died 6/9/13 but he was sitting on my couch 6/12/13...Mr Kockritz I expect ppl who haven't seen it for themselves to give me their 2 cents... I myself have had trouble accepting it...I studied grief hallucinations but as a sober RN whose never hallucinated b4 or since...I only know what I saw...it was my brother as if he came out of the TV and he smiled at me. Now let the barage of insults ensue. Hallucinations or memories don't come from nowhere and scare ppl...I think he left because I was scared (startled)
@@naomidoner9803 hello. Having had my own visitation by my husband on the one year anniversary of his death, I believe you completely.
@@sonyavincent7450 thank you... As a nurse in long term care I've seen alot ppl die...but I've only seen one person afterwards... if I didn't see it myself I would not have believed it....I am completely Left brain, requiring empirical evidence...it threw me for a loop...so I hit the books trying to understand it...it was not a greif hallucination...it was not a memory. Im waiting to read the results of Robert Bigelow's contest to help me understand it better
After watching all these different beliefs and personal understandings, it’s very clear we are NOT closer to truth. We’re right back at proverbial drawing board, once again. Of course. The only things that becomes more clear, is that we can never know any view as a fact.- of course.😳
At least we know that we dont know.If not closer to truth , then lessening our great distance from it.
@@kenadams5504 Yes the only truth is we have no evidence of souls or of humans somehow surviving death. We know where we came from. We are an evolved species. We did not just appear whole by some miracle. We are no different from all other life. All life evolved. It all equally has a chance to somehow survive death.
@@jackarmstrong5645
So how do we/species survive death?
Do you mean literally or figuratively survive death?
@@oskarngo9138 I said all life has an equal chance to survive death. The cockroach and the human. How they could possibly do that is beyond me. I see no way.
@@jackarmstrong5645 Your "soul" is your interdimensional passport. Don't leave planet Earth without it.
Knowledge of having a soul is 100 % verifiable if you could enter into a Regressive Hypnotic state, guided by a therapist.
I feel like I just took a trip into the twilight zone. I didn't understand any of it. What are these people telling me, that my body has a soul or that my soul has a body? Is there a difference? There seems to be different opinions among those who claim to be experts. Which one is right? Are any of them right? What does Hinduism have to say about it? Don't we keep getting reincarnated getting higher and higher? Why do you always pick the JudeoChristian point of view? Aren't there others worth considering? What do various Native American tribes have to say. Perhaps it's just too complicated to have a soul. How dies one sell his soul to the devil? Is there a devil? Jews and Christians have it that Eve met him.
@@KAT-dg6el Well I don't so by what you just said I don't have one. Whew, that takes a load off my mind. Having a soul seems very complicated.
@@markfischer3626 I asked the unicorn in my garden and She confirmed that you don't have a soul, Mark. And She is always right.
Excellent information. Thanks for journey to find truth 🙏🙏🙏🙏
I am Native American, some how people have made this far to complicated. My people still believe the simple fact that we and the entire planet are equally a part of life and our planet. We are not independent of the Great Spirits earth or our living brothers be that all organisms or all earth.
This is not our original planet.
As soon as anyone speaking on such unanswered questions says "This is the way it is" instead of "Here is the evidence and this is what it suggests to me", I completely write them off as a being an honest witness. And yes - bearing in mind the pitfalls of subjectivity - what we can discover through introspection is to be cautiously weighed against external observation.
Well said. Evidence evaluation is more interesting as well.
Well said. So, after introspection, what do you think?
@@Paul-qr7hu I believe what we call the "soul" or "personality" arises from a combination of our genes and the sum of our experiences. I have no memory of before I was about 4 years old. I believe this is because my brain was still forming and because the "sum of memories" that would become my sense of "self" ("soul", "personality") had not yet reached a critical mass - to become stabilized enough to form a core around which it could continue to grow. This grouping of core memories would have evolved into my sense of self, and continued to be built upon through new experiences. Faster "in the moment" processes in the brain (driven mostly by in-coming information) electromagnetically cross-correlate with this central core of memories to determine how I will act in any given situation. But the whole process can be easily modified by material substances - such as drugs - indicating that it IS a material process. However, given that we still don't fully understand how subjective experiences (like seeing the color blue) emerge from electromagnetic interactions, there is likely to be some important element of the process that we have yet to identify.
@@phonsefagan3754 You said it better than anyone in that video, Phonse. It also jives well with my own experience. I have memories from the age of 3 in a house and yard I lived in before turning 4 in another house two states away. We lived there and moved into another house when I was 5. Every two years after that we moved again a few times, so I have memories from each location that grew in number and strength each time. I also suspect that my personality from genes and experiences formed into memories, both long and short term in the subconscious and conscious mind, can be called a soul by some, but not by me. I think that's almost a catch-all word to say a person has a soul, not a separate thing at all as purported in these kinds of videos and religion too.
@@abeautifuldayful So, please forgive me Randy if I misunderstand you. But are you suggesting that there is a soul that exists independent of your experiences and memories? Because, for me, it is those long-term memories (combined with some genetic predispositions) that constitute what people would historically call the "soul". And, to be clear, I don't claim to KNOW this. It just makes the most sense to me, based on my experiences in the world and my exercises in introspection.
Your best episode so far.
The soul is an illusion because the self is an illusion. Consciousness conjures up a self and the self conjures up a soul.
too many conjurations ...
@@francesco5581 Maybe your right, I'll rephrase it then. The self is an illusion which accounts for the individual, only once you have the concept of the individual can you account for a soul. So the soul is dependent on the self, and the self is an illusion, apparently conjured by consciousness.
A miracle can not be an illusion
once i wanted to learn about occultism (witchcraft), because i was curious to learn knowledge everywhere, and i read from a new age book how to do astral projection, i had to lay down in a relax position, no body parts are allowed to be crossed, i had to breath deep controlled, and repeat a certain sentence untill i fell asleep, and think of nothing else but the sentence, but right before i fell asleep, i felt dizzy, then i fell asleep but i was still awake, like lucid dreaming, i felt tingling all over my body, as if my spirit was letting go of my body, i floated above my body, i weight lighter than a soft breeze of wind, i wanted to know what my soul looked like, but i didn't expect what i saw, i looked like a damp of water, like a splash of water but in a vaporized way, like that glow you see from a damp of water in a hot desert for example, shapeless and colorless, in the corner of the room there was a shadow, the shadow grabbed me by the shoulders, and dragged me into the ground, into tunnels made of mud sand, i yelled out loud jesus help me jesus help me, then a tall angel splashed into the ground, and grabbed me by the shoulders, and he put me back in my room, at the exact same spot where i was taken, i panicked trying to get back in my body, but moving was hard like i wasn't used to move without a body, i had to think left left down down down, just to move in that direction slowly, then i laid in my body like it was a closet or a box, i couldn't open my eyes no matter how hard i tried, after about 5 minutes trying to wake up, my eyes suddenly shot open wide, i almost lost my soul because i wanted to learn knowledge everywhere out of curiosity, but i repented to god for what i have done.
What you have said has really scared me! Because I've been reading a book on how to astral travel. The man who wrote the book states that nothing bad can happen to you when you astral travel and that you always go back to your body because you are tethered to it by a silver cord. I'm so confused now!
You CANNOT lose your soul even in what we call "death". You will NEVER lose who you REALLY are (soul) - ONLY lose who you 'think' you are (Ego).
@@sweetpea1322 God advised 365 times(in just the bible) to "Fear not". Can you trust God?
Fear confuses and paralyzes the brain and is, in fact , responsible for ALL the heartache and misery on the planet. Don't worry. Fear and Love CANNOT co-exist - so just be love. Bless you
To try out astral projection without protection from your "original-light soul-forces" is a mistake. There are "evil" entities always around us. You have one in your room who was waiting for you to make your first out of the body experience a bad one, so "he" can paralyze you and implant you. My suggestion is, don't be afraid. Don't feel guilty, don't pray to "God" (God does not exist) You have done nothing wrong. Just be confident in yourself and enclose yourself in a bubble of white light before going to sleep, because you may suffer from sleep paralysis at any moment because you have been abducted by a Luciferian entity from the fourth dimension.
@@garychartrand7378
Thank you and Bless you too!❤️
A person doesn't have a soul, a person is a soul.
Meaningless non sense unless you can prove that claim.
@@TurinTuramber Read "Self and Soul" by Mary Whiton Calkins.
@@MonisticIdealism If Mary had proof of the existence of a soul, I feel like that would be on the news, in a paper and of course be mentioned in this video.
@@TurinTuramber Your feelings are not the same as reality. Just because you feel it should be a certain way doesn't mean that's how reality is. A true critical thinker assesses the arguments/evidence for themselves instead of dismissing a claim based on feelings.
@@MonisticIdealism Indeed. I said feel to be cute. It's actually absolutely concrete rationale to suggest that the biggest discovery of the millennium would make the news and even render this entire video moot.
Pure logic dictates that Mary didn't prove anything. Sorry.
That Porsche got soul😎
Humans can empathise and be soulful even if they dont instinctively understand why its appropriate.adaptive soulfulness , if you will.if you need help and someone gives you help , is it relevant that they instinctively react empathethically ...or is it most important to you that you are helped when you need it ?
I love the sound at 7:07.
So Cool
"Immaterial substance"... Moreland didn't even make it out of the gate.
I know. Like, "Hold on there Sparky. Let's break out a dictionary and go over this word by word."
We say "poor soul" or a "great soul". In most usage, words soul and person have the same meaning. One exception is "won the world, but lost his soul." Almost like a machine that won't stop until wear and tear brings it down. Whatever a person or a soul is, we can posit that we are not a body (hardware) which is bounded. Neither are we a mind (software) even though it is unbounded. We rule and use the "software" (shared and distributed) that we denote as the mind which in turn uses the "hardware" (particular and local) that we denote as the body.
Here's what we can say. When you shut down the hardware, pull the power source, software no longer functions or computes. When we die, the emergent property of subjective consciousness ceases, period. To believe otherwise is simply wish thinking for those who refuse to accept non-existence. It also follows Occam’s Razor Principal. Everything in the entire universe of which we are a part, moves to complete disorder (decay), maximum entropy. No one questions the second law of thermodynamics.
You make some good points. Another example would be "SOS" when used it means save our lives.
For me the more interesting question isn’t whether persons have souls or not, rather: How would such a knowledge (if we had access to) influence our actions in the Here&Now?
That would depend if you believe there is life after death or eternity in either Heaven and Hell. If you believe or accept that you have a soul / spirit then you would also have to believe that there is life after death and that Heaven / Hell have to exist. The only reference Western ideology has on this idea of the soul / spirit is the Bible.
@@happycat0411 See: The University of Virginia School of Medicine, Division of Perceptual Studies. We no longer have to rely on any of mankind's ancient fables to begin to understand what's going on in regard to "the larger reality." Now some universities and others are studying it, for decades now, and finding some profound results.
@@happycat0411 Hell is a world full of people!
@@It__From__Bit what kind of results?
@@jayschwartz3203 Descartes would agree with you. He said that "Hell is other people".
The logical position toward an extraordinary, supernatural claim is skepticism until proof is offered, and so far none of the thousands of gods that have been claimed to exist throughout history have lifted a finger to prove themselves. In fact, most believers grasp this for themselves - they automatically disbelieve all religious claims except their own, barring actual proof that never produces itself.
There are religious people who recognize overlapping themes, concepts and beliefs among various religions.
Also, logic itself is based in Metaphysics.
The complete failure of science to provide a materialistic explanation for NDEs or to prove that consciousness is made by the brain.
Always love these videos. Watch them as soon as they release. I get excited when your videos show up in my feed.
Personally, I align with a naturalistic worldview of the body and of consciousness. Our hormones and chemicals flowing throughout our bodies as electricity zaps through our neurons at the smallest scales are complex and when we zoom out, they're even more complex. It's truly fascinating how the brain works and I don't blame those who believe we have a soul or that consciousness comes from God. It is easy to feel this way because it's the simplest explanation to come up with that is both consoling and fitting of religion. However, as science progresses, I see each day that though we are sacks of flesh, we all have value and purpose in the memories we make and the legacies we leave behind.
I would call it typical wish thinking. Let Occum's Razor (take the simplest answer) guide you. The universe doesn't know we're here,. it doesn't care if we are extinct tomorrow. Sure, a life can have meaning but there is no purpose. We are here by mere chance. Multi verse. 10 to the 500 manifolds and different constants. Is it an unfalsifiable argument? Perhaps but
it sure is a lot simpler and logical explanation. ( Occum's Razor). BTW, if something, God or otherwise created our universe, then who or what created God?. Don't worry or be scared. Sure it's sad leaving loved ones and they will grieve but when you no longer exist, nothing matters. No more sadness, no pain, no anything. The simplest answer. (Occam’s Razor)
you guys say, "why should we believe in souls and God when there is not enough evidence", i only ask, "what good is trust, only when it is obvious"?
@@LeventeCzelnai obvious? What's obvious to me is that there is no "personal" God or reason to have a theist belief. And for many, many logical reasons aside from there being not a shred of evidence.as you say.
@@Ascendlocal that s what i m saying. u can be a believer, there is no certainty. only faith. u say that s not enough. so, this is why i ask this: what good is trust, only when its obvious? how could we trust in God, if his existence were evident?
@@LeventeCzelnai The whole point about trust is that it has to be earned. To trust without a reason is usually called stupidity!!!
If a soul / consciousness is enhanced substance of matter; matter might come from an enhanced substance / consciousness?
SOUL is your ability to LOVE. Don't lose it.
We all have believes but when the rubber meets the road we all must say "I don't know"!
Figuring out whether we have a soul or not is beyond science.
Yes. Imaginary things are beyond science. Things need to observable in some way for science to understand them.
@@jackarmstrong5645 LOL imaginary things like dark matter and gravity particles? The religion of science believes in them, and no empirical observation has been made of these.
@@vatirhea We have evidence for that. Do you understand the difference? There is no evidence of human souls or spirits. They are entirely made up entities.
@@jackarmstrong5645 you have absolutely zero empirical evidence for either of them. Would you like to share that evidence with us? Both of them were made up to account for flaws in "current models", aka religious dogma. Quantum Mechanics has a pantheon of theoretical unicorns made up to support unfalsifiable theories built on weak empirical evidence. But, I don't expect a materialist to have the intellectual honesty admit that. Scientism is a Cult you know, and recovery doesn't come easy.
@@vatirhea And your evidence for god is...?
One thing we do know is that we have consciousness. Another thing we know is that we are made of physical matter. Another thing we know is that physical matter doesn't have consciousness. If consciousness is real then where it come from? The physical universe? If its not real then we are living in a delusion or we think we are.
They are embodied spirits when alive, and souls when the body dies.
Thanks Tony …wait one moment, while I “thumbs up the rock and roll guy” in the comment below me ….. ;-) … for these videos. I’m Catholic, so maybe you can infer my belief on this. I very much enjoyed this video. Rational, intelligent, and multi-sided conversations on something we’re all not quite that sure about. Actually, I enjoy all your videos! Thank you!!
The other half of this question needs exploring, too: what is a person? Does a person change when their bodies change (say she lost weight, or has gotten 20 years older), or does he change when he changes his mind (no longer wants to be a doctor, but a computer programmer), or both?
Does a person has a soul, or does the soul move the person, body and mind?
You do understand what underpins the belief in a soul? It’s the wish that a person survives death. Let me give you a clue. Everything in the universe, including us follows the 2nd law of thermodynamics, meaning everything, entropy moves to maximum disorder. End the end, nothing exists but photons and because they have no mass, there is no time. A soul? Just exactly what is that? Is your answer that consciousness is your soul? Regardless, It’s delusional wish thinking.
@@Ascendlocal yes. ALL things physical experiences entropy. But the soul is not physical and it's eternal self is not subject to entropy.
I believe there is this thing that is called a "Soul". However, my definition is much different than most others. Here is my definition. A "Soul" is a complete and accurate description of the behavior of something. It is purely informational in nature. It is not limited to living creatures or people. Souls are extremely important because it allows everything to be differentiated and it is used in determining friends/foes.
Every definition is not what's defined. It can get very close to it or the opposite, but no matter what, it's never the defined. And the only veracious premise here is that nobody knows what the soul is and whether it does exist.
What if somehow, stroke, tumor, lightning strike I lost my memories of myself, my past, likes dislikes, beliefs, my whole story gone and yet still was aware of the world, and all experiences were new. What would my soul be in that context without a story without an identity. Just a little thought experiment.
In my philosophy, damage to the physical brain does not matter to the soul. Soul craves experiences in order to evolve and that creates it's BEINGNESS. To the soul there's neither good nor bad experiences - just experiences. It is only the Ego(an emergent property of the physical brain that judges wether an experience is good or not.
That's an extraordinary claim. I'm gonna need some extraordinary evidence.
Well I have this dusty old book, written in a dead language. Convinced yet?
@@con.troller4183 ok, you got me. I'm convinced 😁
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All that intelligence and they forgot the most important thing that sets us apart from everything created yet is wholly connected to our souls. Free will. The one thing that God blessed us with that hopefully most of us won’t be ungrateful for.
There is no God.
Free will is basically another term for common sense. Some of us have more than others. I do not believe free will is from God just something we need to make the right or wrong choices and hopefully stay out of trouble and live another day.
I remember one time I was at a fair and I tried a demo of a VR game for a VR arcade, and wondered if I might be someone VRing what I think might be me. Maybe this is how the soul works.
Unexpectedly, YES
What I know for sure is that gingers don't have souls. They may think they have ones but they don't.
The body is the soul and the spirit lives inside the soul.
I think the soul is the immortal part of you that largely residesin another dimension, and the human experience is for the expansion of your soul. Human you is basically an avatar experiencing 3d reality.
Was it me, or did Mr. Houston Smit act/talk/remind you of a kid? What a gorgeous human being!
Similar souls who do not understand each other's language, but must nevertheless must live together
Feelings are the language of the soul.
the soul takes up residence, within the heart, and its language is love.
Not once anyone of these people mentioned love, which is maybe why the lack of comprehension of soul
Is the intro music from Mahler?
Mr. Houston Smith brilliant truth.
Every living human will find out the senseless question soon after their own death.
I'm a bit disappointed he did not speak to a single Eastern philosopher. Their religious cultural background gives them a slightly different perspective on this topic. Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism to name a few; all define things like a soul, spirit, consciousness, and god differently from how we do in the West. Ultimately the question of the soul leads to the question of "what happens when we die?" The difference in description of those concepts -soul, consciousness, spirit, god- lead to vastly different viewpoints on the question of life and death.
People were all born with souls except a few. My question is is why do people hunt for the souls of others?
What is "except a few". If it is animated then it has soul
24:34 Yes prof. Houston Smith! That's what I believe too and it is consistant with pantheonism. Our feeling of consciousness is a local concentration of the Spirit, like white caps crests emerging temporarily on the one ocean's surface. isn't it what all religions say anyway, on their own language:"God is everything".
" isn't it what all religions say anyway, "
That is the Buddhist view. Most religions say the opposite, that the individual identity survives death. They are all about you being special and precious and that you will live on after death, unlike everything else, including our solar system, galaxy etc. etc..
So, you simply wish that you survive death. That is the real underpinning of your comment. Here’s what we do know to be a fact. Everything in the universe including “us”:follows the second law of thermodynamics. Meaning, everything moves to maximum disorder, including subjective experience. It’s the heat death of the universe where only photons survive. They have no mass so, there is no more time at that point.
@@Ascendlocal In this material universe, that is. I don't believe that the material universe is all that there is. I think that higher reality is a lot more than that, this place is a dream in comparison to the reality beyond this 4D universe (when you include time).
@@Aetriex of course anyone can believe whatever they want. But it seems to me that these metaphysical beliefs are a direct result that we all wish we could somehow survive death. So, it's wish thinking but it doesn't make it true just because we wish it to be.
@@Ascendlocal Well of course, fear of death is natural. For myself, existence itself was absolutely terrifying because I am acutely aware that I am strapped into the seat of a train that cannot be stopped, cannot be diverted, cannot be slowed. The train is time, and it will reach an inevitable conclusion: death. Upon that, there are only two options, Oblivion or Eternity. Both are equally terrifying. Both are equally possible. However, it would seem to me, that there is more evidence to suggest Eternity than there is Oblivion, or perhaps that is solely because proving Oblivion isn't possible. But maybe, proving Oblivion isn't possible because it, in itself, isn't possible. Eternity on the otherhand, has evidence to suggest its existence, however ineffable it is to describe or understand.
This channel is under appreciated.. I'd think more like 4,000,000 subscribers would be in order.. at least
This channel mostly regurgitates the same unanswerable questions, over and over. Two decades and no closer to truth than when the first episode aired.
Well, I will say I've watched a lot of different things because I don't think taking one video at it's word is too smart.. but I'd say it's one of the better done channels.. or maybe it's his voice?... Yeah, that's probably it.
@@DroppinJewels31 I think it has potential and some episodes, like the latest one with Stenger, really do speak to better understanding, but so much of it is just rehashing unanswerable questions.
It's like searching compost for diamonds.
What, he pulls up in a 911 turbo? Niiiiiice.
Yes.
In a way we are each an expression of the universe, embedded in the eternal memory of all creation. Our individual personalities which differentiate us from others are a kind of island , a type of strange attractor which echoes through time, in a eternal return depending on your interpretation of Ergodic theory.
Okay. When every available metric indicates that the soul is purely a matter of conjecture, we are asked to consider the idea of a purely bodily 'resurrection.' I posit that before that can happen, two questions must be answered: Why? And which (body)? At what point in the timeline of our measly existence are we most clearly defined? Given that there is no mind/body dualism as neither can exist without the other, we are still, at the very least, putting forth the concept of some sort of mental resurrection. So, at what level of development would one be resurrected? And what about those with mental abnormalities who were never given a chance to develop at all? And how would resurrecting a shitload of carcasses benefit god, by whatever name? And how would a resurrection benefit the resurrected? Which all leads to the first question, Why? In my estimation, this video was an exercise in utter futility, with the only worthwhile contribution being, perhaps, Dennett's segment.
Show me exactly how anyone can ask this question without a soul.
And it’s that simple, I thought the same thing.
*Hopefully. 😇*
Breathing is soul,spirit,life!!!😁🤣
Body, soul, and spirit.
It reminds me of C. S. Lewis' quote, "you do not have a soul. you are a soul. you have a body"
That doesn't make any sense
@@Soul_Flow_ of course it does
Depends what you mean by "Soul"...I prefer to term it "consciousness", which I don't personally believe is produced by the brain.
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Not a professional scholar here. But i have done my bible homework. And @ about 10:55 Nancy is correct. The Hebrew scriptures and Jesus do not teach an " immortal soul." That idea apparently comes from Greek and other philosophies and has largely been adopted by popular mainstream religions including Christianity.
Update: I take my definition of " SOUL " from Genesis. God breathed into his nostrils. And man BECAME a living soul. Human individuals ARE souls. They HAVE ( see Job 32:8 ) a spirit. In this context " soul " is the combination of body and spirit.
The soul and the spirit are the same and they return to God when you pass away.
". . . then the dust will return to the earth as it was, and the spirit will return to God who gave it." - Ecclesiastes 12:7
It really doesn't do you any favours at all, to quote religious nonsense from religious books as though it was absolute proof.
We don’t just have a Soul, We Are Souls.
Energy
René Descartes is frequently considered the father of dualism. He presents the existence of the soul as a separate substance. In his most celebrated argument, he invites a thought experiment - imagine you exist, but not in your body. You wake up in the morning but as you approach the mirror, you do not see yourself there. You try to reach your face with your hand but it is thin air. You try to scream but no sound comes out.
Dualism is not without its critics. Descartes seems to assume that everything that is imaginable is possible. Indeed, many philosophers have long agreed that imagination is a good guide as to what is possible (Hume, 2010). This criterion is disputed. Imagination seems to be a psychological process, and thus not strictly a logical process.
Immortality has been one of mankind’s major concerns and even though it has been mainly confined to religious traditions, it is also important to philosophy. A substantial part of the discussion on immortality touches upon the fundamental question in the philosophy of mind - do souls exist?
Dualists believe souls exist and survive the death of the body; materialists believe mental activity is nothing but cerebral and thus death brings the total end of a person’s existence. However, some immortalists believe that even if immortal souls do not exist, immortality may still be achieved through resurrection.
In many philosophical and religious tradition, immortality is conceived as the continued existence of an immaterial soul or mind beyond the physical death of the body. In Phaedo’s account, Socrates explains to his friends that a true philosopher should look forward to death. The purpose of the philosophical life is to free the soul from the needs of the body…, a philosopher should see it as the realization of his aim….
Philosophy is the utmost excessive critical and comprehensive thought process established by human beings.
The teaching of a never-dying soul is deceptive and has permeated the religious world with its false promises and claims.
The origins of life and death will remain a mystery that even the scientific world cannot solve. The Septuagint, however, provide a clear-cut answer on the origin of life and origin and state of death. According to creation account, humanity received the gift of life from Jehovah.
The Hebrew word for breath in Genesis 2:7 is neshamah: the life-giving principle. The breath is equivalent to life itself [Isaiah 2:22]. Another Hebrew word which translated 28 times as breath in the KJV is ruach, which can also mean wind or spirit. It is translated 237 times as spirit in the KJV. In Genesis 2:7, God’s breath makes the inanimate material come to life, and transform it into a living soul. The Hebrew for soul is nephesh, and both the terms ruach and nephesh have frequently been misapplied to suit unbiblical positions about death. A soul is not a separate entity from the body. These words are used interchangeably.
*Which is easier to believe, intellectual philosophical speculation or the Bible*
*One must confess that the existence of an immortal soul remains unproven by test in the acid baths of experiments and logic. Humans do not have too much intellect and too little soul, but too little intellect in matters of soul.*
Nancey seems to have a deep understanding.
Person is 'the face' of the Soul.
Body, Brain, Mind is wording representing a container & its part, this container vary in size physically. The Life or Soul is spark of beginning or blue print & varies for individual bodies which make me as me & you as you different. Consciousness is process of brain to feel dimension, like single cell navigate in water & degree of consciousness varies in brain. What goes out when life of cell or complex of cells ceases, the Soul or Spark of individual life loaded with consciousness data become part of Creator loop.
"Your soul is lost, but your soul cannot be completely lost because it is tethered to God through Knowledge, through that part of you that never left God. Knowledge, which travels with you every moment, is with you every day in every situation, counseling you and guiding you.
But you cannot feel its counsel or follow its guidance because you are so lost and captivated by the world and by your own internal fantasies and fears, your own internal conflicts, your unforgiveness, your grievances, your attitudes and your fixed beliefs."
A quote from *The Soul* - a teaching received by Marshall Vian Summers. Check out the whole teaching free online.
No Thanks it sounds like Twaddle!!!
Spirit is outside space-time, therefore the mind will never fully understand it. As defined in Bhagavad Gita, spirit is everywhere and nowhere at the same time. It is larger than the largest and smaller than the smallest, because it got no real dimension. Understanding Relativity Theory is possible to sort of grasp this concepts. Good video. Thanks!.
the question without answer.
More like souls have persons.
Their are somethings that can't be described by a hard evidence.
The awareness in which "I" exist is the soul.
Do you mean you exist in conciousness ?
@@kenadams5504 yes, entire existence is in your consciousness. Even the double slit physics experiment proves that.
The soul is nothing but consciousness that gives identity to "I", the consciousness also allows you to identify everything that is not "I" , when there is NO "I" there is nothing but consciousness.
This is my understanding of Vedanta, still searching for answers and the real truth.
As a general rule: Anything that cannot be explicitly defined & described doesn't exist. This applies both to the souls and to God.
Consciousness cannot be defined too but it doesn't mean it doesn't exist
@@muhammadaminbigdeli7661 it doesn't exist. Consciousness is an illusion which humans experience both individually and collectively by mutual consent. But when examined even internally by meditation it falls apart to nothing as Buddhism discovered more than a thousand years ago.
@@muhammadaminbigdeli7661 Of course it can!
@@donritchfield1407 so many philosophers are doing their best but yet we have not reached to any complete answere but I agree it is possible in the future
@@sentientflower7891 what a load of c... .
If we compare a parking car with a driving one then what is the soul equivalent in this example
a) the driver
b) the fuel
c) the car with all its required functional parts, including (a) and (b)
Soul is the driver, body is the car
@@app0ll0nysus so, you agree that an outside factor is required to bring life to a body, which in this example is in the form of a car...
@@r2c3 yes, of course. The soul exists outside of space time. It is an unextended entity.
@@app0ll0nysus I also think design is also an act of intelligence...
Life on earth was an accident. Human consciousness is its contents only, without contents there is no consciousness.
If one knows How contents build up, he will realise how illusions are driving our consciousness.
Philosopher J Krishnamurti explained this in his famous statement that, 'Observer is the Observed?'
How?
Our 'I' is the Observer and what he observes is his 'observed - the observation.'
At the physical level the observer and his observations are different but at the mental level they are both one and the same.
Our I can only realize things on a mental level and never experience actual events. We do not know who really I is and what exactly are its observations. Due to ignorance of the real nature of self and his observations, we remain ignorant of life itself. And from this ignorance we face illusions throughout life. That is why it is very necessary to know the true nature of the self and the experiences, and this is self-realization.
We understand our life through a series of experiences. So to find the real observer and his observations, we must understand each and every single steps of our experience.
When we experience anything, first our sense organs make images of that experience, they send those images to the brain, and the brain stores all the images in its memory.
To announce an experience, memory creates a reaction to that experience. Responses from memory create a series of thoughts. One of those thoughts separates itself from the other thoughts and acts as an announcer. The announcer thought is our real self, the real I, the real observer. Response of memory is our real me.
'I' thought don't want to dissolve after the announcement of the experience, he wanted to continue. So he is always chatting to stay alive. For that I thought keep generating countless ideas.
I, his thoughts, his ideas are contents of our consciousness.
The response of memory is our real I, he is the observer and the things he observes are always from images stored in the memory. Hence the observer is from memory and the things he has observed is also from memory, hence they both are belongs to memory, hence they are one, the observer is the observed.
There is always a momentary delay between the actual experience of the sense organs and the experience of our I. Whenever our 'I' perceives any experience, it is always after a moment, in past. Therefore, the perception of all experiences in our daily life is always in the past. Our I, its thoughts, its ideas are always part of memory and never real.
Our life is as natural as a river. But thoughts created by 'I' have created bridges of concepts and we live and die for those imaginary bridges. Our I thought can never understand what life actually is because life is a living fact and I is part of past memories, he is a dead illusion.
Just as there is always some distance between a river and a bridge, there is always time delay between actual events and their realization by the self.
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"From the ancient days man has experienced an accident, a sensation, a danger, a pleasure. He derives from that experience, knowledge. That knowledge is stored in the brain as memory. And from that memory thought arises. Response of memory is our real I."
J Krishnamurti, From Public Talk 5, Paris, 14 September 1961
Ah souls are everywhere
One soul for all
Love these programes but wat if the body is cremated how can u raise it
Is the soul an enhanced substance of the body / brain; one that starts with the same nature as the brain, then develops into an altered nature?
The soul-light-force is in every single cell of the body. Knowledge and feeling of having a soul is 100 % verifiable if you could enter into a Regressive Hypnotic state, guided by a therapist.
Would love for there to be one but we have no evidence and if we ignore provable evidence then it's down to opinion and conjecture and how much weight a person puts on that is entirely up to them though if you do give weight to conjecture then any conceived possibility could be equally as true so it makes the whole thing pointless.
Thats like saying a placebo is just a sugar pill and you can't actually treat any medical conditions with sugar , so it shouldnt be given to ppl when it reduces pain they may have ( a placebo effect). If religious thinking helps those with anxiety about dying ,for example , then it doesnt matter if it is no more than a placebo for mental or emotion needs.Like a sugar pill helps with certain pains , a religion can help with certain insecurities and anxiety's. Whats pointless about that ?
If God exists then we have a soul/spirit ... as God is Spirit and made was made in his(plural) image.
The Science & data actually supports God creating a FINITE isolated Thermodynamic System .. expanding in ... and INFINITE "unnatural" System(Surrounding) which must provide the matter, energy, space, time & Laws of physics for our Universe to exist.
The Theory of Universal Functions ... is the science behind the natural phenomena that Natural processes( Eg Life & the Universe) are like a an UNNATURAL process ( eg, Watch, machine, physical Function .... FUNCTION).
Everything is a Function ... with a set purpose/rules ... and PROCESS inputs into outputs.
And all Funcitons are ... UNNATURALLY made by an intelligence who must provide INFORMATION to impart a purpose/rules.
Again. If God exists ... then we have an eternal soul/spirit.
There's a reason why the greatest man in all of history .... is a Jew called Yeshua ... worshiped as God & Savior to over 2 billion Christians and a great prophet of God who performed miracles by 1.6 billion Muslims.
@@abelincoln8885 "The Science & data actually supports God creating a FINITE isolated Thermodynamic System"
No, it does nothing of the sort.
Thanks for playing.
@@con.troller4183 Clown. The data & science shows .... the Universe is a FINITE Isolated Thermodynamic System, that began & is expanding in, an INFINITE "unnatural" System( Surroundings) that MUST provide the energy, matter, space, time & laws of physics of our Universe.
ie. The Natural system was made in an Unnatural System.
Yes. Science completely supports everything being a FUNCTION & has an UNNATURAL origin by an intelligence ... of the INFINITE System that the Universe began & is expanding in.
Thank for playing.
@@abelincoln8885
"the Universe is a FINITE Isolated Thermodynamic System,"
Says who?
"that began & is expanding in, an INFINITE "unnatural" System"
Unnatural? In what sense? Not existing in nature? If it is being expanded into it must be natural.
"Yes. Science completely supports everything being a FUNCTION & has an UNNATURAL origin by an intelligence ..."
Again, Sorry, science says nothing like that.
Your Wild Assertion Word Salad is past its stale date.
Could soul have something to do with the resurrected body?
If the body is animated, then soul is present. I would urge you to consider soul in relation to reincarnation
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Nice Porsche!