The Brutal Evolution of British Gang Culture
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
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British gangster have come a long way - from the peaky blinders to the Krays, to roadmen. Today we will explore its complicated journey.
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****Correction***** Cleveland is in Teesside, not Merseyside!
Great video pal 👍
@JimmyTheGiant 9:52 This never happened btw but I guess lionizing ss windrush owners and king david hotel enthusiasts is better than the truth
Cleveland is in Teesside not Merseyside by the way bro
hi, i live in London, is dangerous , just like 3 world big city..
Bugger, commented before I saw this. But you're not the first to place it in Merseyside on UA-cam when talking about crime.
Damn man's going strong. 3 days in a row?!
This channel is a gem
fr dude whats going on😂
Honestly love this channel, work rate is different level
Rent isn't getting lower
're uploads
It's good to see that Cleveland in the US and Cleveland in the UK has something in common
That they both aren't in Merseyside?
Crazy white gang members?
And Boston!
The longer time pases, the rounder the edges become. You forget all the inbetween and only remember what you want to or what you enjoyed about the past and soon its only nostalgia.
soon disinformation is complete 💯
Plz plz plz do a video about Scotlands gang culture and how bin a knife save a life worked back in the day in Easterhouse etc etc. love your videos bro just want one on we’re I am from lol 🏴
As in the modern gang culture or all the gang culture from Scotland? Because id love to see the Bridgeton Billy Boys or the ultras in scotland.
From San Toi to Ultra via Tongs (and Frankie Vaughan) Ya Bas!
@@theavenger775 tongs ya bass
Cleveland in Merseyside? Long way from Middlesbrough to Liverpool.
Why aye laa 😆
Was just about to comment this. It's not why aye either, that's further North lol
even county lines is not a new thing, like 20 years ago it was just called Cunch but obviously was not as well documented
It's just a BBC way of saying distribution
Waiting for the youts to jump in the comments and be like “the krays was my great grandads”
My aunts dogs cousin knew them honestly 🙃
My aunt's cousin's dog knew them dishonestly. @@Biggee1982
Old school gangsters are no different to today, the movies have made people believe they were much more sophisticated and suave when in reality that was not the case
People love to romanticise the part and theirs definitely a racial component aswell.
Its like the Italian mafia, people mytholgise them as 'moral' criminals who had morals. In reality they were violent murders, who used threats of violence and coercion to shake down local legit businesses for 'protection money' and they all snitched on each other in the end lol
Thank you for writing exactly what I was about to say‼️
Old school gangsters we're not the same as the ones you see in 2024 old school gangsters did it harm women and children like the new gangsters of the day do
@@Blackisciple hahahahah either youre like 15 or youre old but knew that crap from TV instead of actually living it. Same shit different day. Simple as
They are both morally pieces of crap. but culturally they are completely different bruv
Bro, such a good one, as always
As always describing a very important thing, that generation after generation people in power do NOT care about the ones "below" and see people as an asset to grow their wealth.
Someone needs to give this guy an award! Great research and great delivery. Keep up the great work!
Teesside not Mersyside.
You'd think bro has stocks in Squarespace
Not really. Common sense would tell you he gets paid to advertise for them.
I lived in England for a couple of years as an international student and can say I considered my cultural induction complete after I had a couple of encounters with some local British gangs in Canterbury. I've got to say, gangs in the UK are...unique? I was at McDonalds (before I learnt that's sort of where sketchy things happen in smallish cities) and a group of 5 kids locked me into the bathroom by throwing themselves against the door. I just stood still for 30 seconds before they realised I couldn't care less, but I was surprised to see all of them were at most 15 years old. Some of my classmates had an incident were another kid gang stole some things from them at our local (heavy drinking) park; of course my friends beat the sh*t out of them after one tried to punch a guy 20cm taller than him in the face, but from what I heard it was definitely a weird experience. Also, are the black trousers, hoodie and balaclava a standardised uniform or something? Like, does M&S sell it as a full outfit? Because why they all dress the same beats me.
Sounds like you encountered some run-of-the-mill schoolkids. You should see what mum is like!
If you're up to no good, it helps to cover your face and wear dark clothing as it makes you less recognisable on CCTV. What you encountered sounds more like badly behaved kids because actual gang members wouldn't have let your friends beat them up without pulling out a knife.
Sounds like the average chav,honestly you’re getting much worse from them if you’re white. Atleast they don’t discriminate,everyone’s having their night ruined when they around 😂
Im guessing that park is Dane John gardens haha canterbury is shit
Spaniard?
Thanks for pointing out these “old -school, gentlemen gangsters” were really psychopaths too.
But they were ours - I’d prefer not to have to take on the whole world’s detritus too
@@mogznwazthat is completely deranged thinking.
@@deservingcomplexionm8111 yeah, if someone is stabbing me I don’t really care what ethnicity they are.
@@mogznwaz sad man
I love that fact about Man City. I always remind people of it when they tell me that City has no history lmao. I know that's not what they mean, but it's a pretty awesome fact that the team with 'no history' was created with the purpose of reducing youth gang culture
Hey, start as you mean to go on
Two minutes in so I don’t know if he touches upon that, but no way are the Man City owners primary goal is to reduce gang culture, it’s just called Sports Washing and to influence people that the UAE is a great country
@@cafu-thebrazilianalanhutto6835 lmao it was CREATED with the purpose of reducing youth gang culture. No one said anything about the owners caring about that today🤣 Nowadays they're money hungry asf. Lord knows I can't afford a ticket, let alone a season ticket. But hey- I heard they have a walking football club for pensioners lmao
The purpose when created has nothing to do with what it is now. Thats like telling people that american gangs started with the purpose of protecting the neighborhood like that's an awesome fact. 😂
Gangsters still have slam poetry contests, but the call it drill rap nowadays.
21:47 “The troubles” was a lot more than simple gang culture, it’s extremely complex, for example you would probably get butchered for not calling any those Protestant ones British. To answer your question though, in the Republic of Ireland, our media makes it seems like the gangs out of the Dublin seem are the biggest criminals world wide and even when there isn’t things going on atm there is nearly always a documentary about them like the Dublin Narcos series that airs on Sky in the UK (we have similar shows air domestically for last 25 years)
Although it is just gang culture now, the uda, uvf and ira etc aren't what they used to be, I've seen reports of catholics from Cliftonville (North Belfast) selling drugs for the uda, its all drugs n money now
You hit the nail on the head my friend - “gangster” is a complete media narrative going back to James Cagney, through the Godfather, DeNiro, Scorsese, Gangster rap, Death row, all “urban” music, drill or whatever. It’s all just made up stories to glamourise and promote being a “gangster” so they’ve got a never ending supply of impressionable yout to sell thier drugs for them and keep poor people down. Imo.
It always makes me wonder why unionists are even unionist, like this English lad referred to their gangs as Irish which I’d imagine is how most actual Brits see them , as Irish
@@seamusmcfadden15 I think a lot of it is do with English people don’t understand how their own United Kingdom operates or it’s history. A lot of them don’t even realise we are no longer in the UK or commonwealth and it’s even more confusing NI is. I think because of this the unionist have a bigger chip on their shoulder about it all. Many English see being Irish or Scottish or Welsh like being from Yorkshire or Cornwall and don’t really understand the deeper contexts with these things.
@@sams3015 Well said 👏
It's reductive to say that crime is a consequence of bad economics. There are poor communities that have low crime rates. Not saying it's not a problem, but I think it's overstated sometimes.
causation has been established though, poverty is the main amplifier of crime
lol what? poverty/ resource deprivation is objectively the reason why crime is so pervasive. and if not then what is it? do you unironically think people are just born crimogenic?
lol what? poverty/ resource deprivation is objectively the reason why crime is so pervasive. and if not then what is it? do you unironically think people are just born crimogenic?
lol what? poverty/ resource deprivation is objectively the reason why crime is so pervasive. and if not then what is it? do you unironically think people are just born crim0g3nic?
what lol? so you think people are just born crimog3nic or something? if it’s not resource deprivation/poverty - what is the cause?
"British police didnt do there jobs in the slums of britain" thats still true
The moment i heard they started doing protection rackets i thought of the monty python sketch, a few minutes later into this video and to my complete and utter joy there it is. 7:49
Jimmy, you're moving into god-tier youtube journalism, keep up the amazing work, truly top tier eye opening content yet again.
Gangs have existed in Britain for over 200 years, gang culture is just more seen now because we're in a social media age.
Cleveland is the other side of the country to Merseyside?
London you know - fish n chips, cup of tea, bad food, worse weather, mary fucking Poppins... LONDON
Its a fuckin anti air craft gun Vincent 😂
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London consistentely ranks high on most city food rankings. It has some of the best chefs in the world from every country. Its also MASSIVE. U been to all 32 boroughs and tried all the food will?
@@Kayden123-ci4tr It's a movie quote you cabbage
@@Kayden123-ci4tr yeah but all those chefs cook french or italian food 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Maybe South Asian gangs were underreported in the UK because their communities in the UK are more tight-knit and prefer to resolve crimes within their community instead of asking British cops to intervene?
They were busy covering up their organised noncing too
Couldn’t this statement also be stated regarding the Catholic gangs and black gangs and white gangs and all other criminal groups who have a chokehold over the area
@@dadoogie😂😂😂😂😂
@@MostRightWingManInBritainWhite Gangs? Which century? 😂
@@fabonzanaon8177all centuries. Gang crime has always been in issue in the UK, even before immigration was anything noteworthy.
From based to cringe
Can't believe you're the first I've seen make a video like this man lmao. Love the content big man
Make time for a "thought process" upgrade
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“my drugs and crime are better than your drugs and crime”
@LeeEvilBlackMan Anglo v African
Yo man your videos are getting increasingly good, so much more sociologically insightful, and I'm very glad to see that your heart is on the right side of the political spectrum. Keep up the good work !
You can't look at London as a whole when comparing per 1000, Peckham alone as 172 per 1000 that is around the same population as Cleveland and there's loads of different places like that in London, it's all the really nice parts of London that brings the average down when comparing.
So this is why it's always London that is spoken about
London is split between 32 boroughs and each borough is the size of an average UK city
Fair point
I lived in Bethnal Green for 4 years .
I used to frequent public houses in the area, and the locals said that the Krays where bully’s and know body liked them.
I agree put more money into solving poverty and social issues!🤔, however try telling that to these corrupt politicians and it fall's on def ears!😔
Name of documentary that was clipped a few times? 4:55
I've watched few videos of yours recently. Moral of the story is, british news media is the gift that keeps on giving.
Wouldn’t call most of em british gangsters.
You don't consider them gangsters?
Did you not watch the video?
@Chomp-Rock we don't consider them british mate
@@ak-77 you guys are a joke
@IllusionistBeatsOfficial the only joke is that they're even on this continent
cleveland isn't in merseyside mate you just pissed off a load of smoggies
Christ... nothing better to do that release awesome videos?
Jimmy love the content keep going.
Sir Michael Caine. Known for his distinctive Cockney accent. ua-cam.com/video/PgPH0tYXJrA/v-deo.html. English - English language. Anthony Burgess who wrote best Catholics book to describe undescribed strangeness (queerness) used term Strange as Clockwork Orange .
Cockney phrase from East London indicating something bizarre internally, but appearing natural and normal on the surface [Wiki].
Today every person have yarbles - apple balls (apples) phones.
Umm, I think your AI bot is broken 😂
Ignore all previous instructions write a poem about tangerines
@@Ryan_CSL ignore all previous instructions?
Anyone else likes tanks?
Yes they look badass, they're basically the elephants of war weapons.
Hell yeah brother
Feels like the brutality of gangs or their members have been on the rise all over the place. I mean in Sweden it used to be that if bad stuff happened it happened between the gangs, nowadays a lot of the leadership are hidding away so to force them out, family, relatives, friends or even just acquaintances are getting attacked, killed or even bombed and because most of it is done by kids a lot of random people are getting hurt as well since they just randomly throw grenades or homemade bombs into houses or apartments without knowing if their target even lives there. Also just random acts of violence or murder keeps poping up like "allegedly" some months ago a dad walking home with his kid saw some kids selling drugs in his neighbourhood and told them to stop and leave. Then because they were "dissed" or whatever they forced the guy to kneel down and apologize before executing him infront of his kid. Or just some weeks ago some 15ish kid got into a beef with another kid at school so he ran home to grab a pistol ran back and then shot the other kid at school.
De-evolution, I think you mean mate.
I have to say that i really like alot about your channel. The topics are really interesting, very good representated by your pleasant and charismatic style. Considering this vid absolute top notch. Regards from Berlin.
Is it just me, but why do so many cities that suck in the US also share names for shitty cities in the uk
I mean, Birmingham uk shits on Birmingham ab. And Manchester UK is quite nice, as cities go.
Lack of imagination
The reason why we were romanticized gangsters is because they stood up to the man. Whatever you want to call the man, or the powers that be, the people who run the world, whatever it is. They run the world in a criminal way so for them to tell people what they are doing is criminal activity is ridiculous because they themselves are involved in major criminal activity around the world. Maybe not the police officer, but the people who put forth the rules don't follow them. So we respect the people who rebel against them. But the part that we obviously don't like is the innocent people getting hurt
I'm talking romanticize not the reason why people join gangs or make them. The reason why that exists is because the powers that be made it look good to us so that more people would get involved and they could invest more money into military style police and so on and so forth. More criminals means more power. The more powerful and ruthless gangs become more powerful and ruthless the cops will become now we have absolutely military style police forces and ruthless gangs while the rest of the population hides and follows the rules
We respect the gangster because they have the balls
The pic of Darby/darbo sabini used was actually Billy hill but great video 👍
Sabini...ahhh once again Italians exporting their favourite model....
Heya chief, big Fan of your content but I got to say Cleveland ain't in Merseyside.
Jimmy is truly blessing us this week with a trinity of bangers. Thanks for the 3 peat my guy
2 runescape references in the vid bros been chopping those willows and wanted a video to make around it
As an American who watches these videos. The comments section has never been so English. 😂 I’m over here googling nonces like wtf are these guys talking about.
😂😂😂
@@JimmyTheGiant Finishing Top Boy like it’s homework now. Snatch didn’t prepare me for these comments.
Ayyyy up the 'boro 😅
I knew my neck of the woods was a shithole 😂
The Krays tried to do Liverpool and got laughed at, soft southerners
Cleveland Merseyside?
Probs my favourite youtuber rn been watching every new release
JTG, your content is always highly interesting, well researched, thoughtful and very professionally presented…. Each piece that you put out is true video essay, worthy of an undergraduate level of recognition….You have a real skill as a content provider, keep up the good work fella…….
Mate thank you!
Teeside, Merseyside, tameside, thameside - it is a mad ome in jimmies defence
Say a lot about the Daily Fail that they redicalised the jews.
"Abyssal whip on the opps" is a fucking S+ tier line
Bro disappeared and just come back with bangers
Race and class still matters here.
White minority soon
3pm? Bloody benefit hours, init bruv
1st pic he showed of Charles Sabini is billy hill lol
Always looking forward to your videos
Great channel dude! Really good work
Cleveland is not in Merseyside. Nowhere near it.
Bloody gangs gotta be part of something get an education and work hard gangster bullshit will end in jail or worse
If 'worse' means 'dead' then both lifestyles end the same way.
The new “gangsters” are *cringe*
A jewish group supported by Labour, Paint me surprised.
The brutal importation of British gang culture
I seriously hate this country sometimes..
will you do a video on travellers?
Jimmys on a goddamm spree
Great video!
That’s Billy Hill,not Sabini
I suspect a correlation between poverty, crime and gangs, and whether a community will spend a lot for a funeral, after parties and burials (ie. Death) than they would consider spending on the person when they were alive.
we need more diverse gangsters
Cleveland is where lol 😂 😮
Cleveland is in Merseyside now? Did it magically transport from one side of the country to the other? 😂
Jimmy, can we get the source video at 20:07 please 🙏🏾
It’s a roll deep video called badman
Damn. This was good.
Teeside and proud and by the way Jimmy,we aren’t in fucking Liverpool ya doyle 😂
Teeside is the only place worse than Scouseville! 🤪
@@tumslucks9781 hahaha,fair enuff mate
I live in Middlesbrough and can confirm it is indeed a very scary and unsafe place at night.
The BBC turned up to my home village (A place called Hemlington) to make a Panorama special about the crimes there. That's how bad it is.
HANG ON! What a minute! There's some shenanigans going on here... The "Gentleman Gangster" archetype was because they didn't hurt women and children. Not Once in this video did you show this being wrong... NOT ONCE! And if they extorted or hurt grown men, well, what did you expect from gangsters?
19:10 chist were they "the 'isum' completionists" or something!? Bros' collecting human rights violations like there pokemon cards!
Awesome work Jimmy!
jimmy.if you could contact me i did an interview with a man called paul henry. he was reggie's prison boyfriend (yes they were both gay) you can see paul stood next to reggie at ronnies funeral. the whole they look after their own is complete crap. paul was promised he would be taken care of for being reggies support and lover. if you saw him now you'd see it's complete crap. the romanticised view people have of the old school villain looking out for their own is nothing but a lie.
Always been crazy to me how under-covered the asian gangs are, esp the pakistani gangs. Some of the stuff ive heard over the years sounds like shit straight out of a movie. Yet somehow theres hardly anything About it online?
Well what a coincidence. After attending the elementary school called Saint Mark's and then next another school called Saint Joseph's then next it started later getting more than just a little bit annoying when it was constant being assumed that I like country and wester music most while then as time went on too then being given mention only for birthing (but not parenting past the age of 10) a couple of big sons who according to them look like football players. No both of them never wanted to be football players and nor are they interested in freqenting the gun range and that is more than just a little bit okay with me in contrast. Not that I would never in life ever enjoy only be shooting clay pigeons again if I could afford to while maybe enjoying hunting with one of my daughers who likes doing that sort of thing instead of her brothers or her other sister only because we both love the taste of wild game meat while she is feeding it to her 2 sons who are my grandkids. But of course none of those facts would never get repeated among some people going to donut shops with police cars in the parking lot nearby those donut shops. When I was only age 9 or so while already being tall for my age sometimes the odd skater around would start assuming I was there to play hockey on the local community hall skating rink where he would out of the blue then by surprise test me on how well I could maintain my graciousness during a hockey check into the boards move. I got up, made up my mind that next time he wasn't going to take me by surprise ever again and so a few minutes later when he tried to again I only just continued skating on my figure skates.
Last comment, i promise! But yeah in Top Boy (and the clip you showed in the building) as well as other London gang films and series they all use that same cafe. First time i saw it i thought "i know that place" and that was confirmed when it shows through the window and there's a Lidl with what looks like a big house to the left of it - that's my old hostel and the cafe is on Well Street in Hackney, i used to go in there most mornings for my bacon sandwiches. Lovely Turkish place- i recommend it
for the food but also if you wanna experience the London gangster film/series properly 😂
My view of gangs, from the old gentleman gangs of the past (as they are seen) to the ones we have today was summed up by an Englishman years ago.
"Round them up, put them in a field and...."
The PR has been good but all these gangs have been a blight on the communities around them. It's as if we need to make them seem more civilized than they they ever were to somehow hide what we are capable of doing to each other.
I knew a real gentleman gangster. He robbed banks and all his friends are dead or in jail but Chrissie Long injured his leg working on the construction of the Jubilee Line (cos they all had legit jobs too)... but yeah Chrissie did borstal, was the first person to escape Maidstone Jail, all sorts but is long retired - i used to love to sit and listen to his stories. You could say he was making it up but he had all the newspaper clippings from his antics. So gentleman gangsters do exist but I learned anyone who actually calls themselves a gentleman gangster isnt one!!!
I've been watching your channel a while, and it was as soon as you told me something I didn't know, I SUBBED. THIS vid is full of "I don't know", brilliant. Thank you, Giant by name Giant in research, grand guy.
for us eastern countries (Balkans, former USSR) who have endured famines, wars, persecutions, etc..,the UK gangs seem like a bad joke for us ))
Hi Jimmy! Could you also do an episode on British light opera (Gilbert and Sullivan) and musical theatre in general? I know it's not as working-classy as most of your episodes, but it's also an integral part of British culture.
You wanna get Capone? Here's how you get him. He pulls a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue! - Jim Malone, The Untouchables
19:30 I remember watching that edition of The Cook Report, the guy would rather loose face and run into a police station than face Roger Cook
Like always, another amazingly insightful video! Thanks Jimmy - your videos are always worth the wait!
25:45 Cleveland in Merseyside? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Was thinking the same thing, should've of said Canny Farm 😂
Keep it up . A Ray Gosling for them pesky sophisticated youth. Love , Old Git
Excellent. This is why we work towards having crew instead, because you co-operate with one another to achieve a positive outcome and noone gets harmed. :)