Pearl Davis Interviews Pastor Joel Webbon | Biblical Patriarchy & Christian Nationalism
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- Опубліковано 15 кві 2024
- A few months ago, Pearl Davis (@JustPearlyThings ) invited Pastor Joel Webbon onto her show to interview him on the topics of Biblical Patriarchy and Christian Nationalism.
*Due to technical difficulties, the conversation was never released on Pearl’s platform. Fortunately, Right Response Ministries recorded a backup of the audio, and with Pearl’s permission, we are now releasing it to the public.
Dang Pastor Joel. I was almost done listening and thought “my one critique might be that you didn’t share the gospel when you had a chance” and then BAM, last few minutes changed that. What a wonderful interview, praise God for your faithfulness and courage on all the fronts
Really appreciate your encouragement. Definitely wanted to get the Gospel clearly presented!
@@RightResponseMinistriesas a young man that got married with Friday to a godly woman I know from Bible study, but spent 24 years (almost my whole life) basically single the red pill was something I saw as dangerous because there so much truth mixed with awful lies. I love listening to your content (started in 2020) and some other postmill guys. Thanks for presenting content that applies the Gospel to all of life!! Your content helped me see biblical patriarchy not the red pill
@@RightResponseMinistries (putting this here so that it will tag you in a notification): Joel,
Please have on Better Bachelor for an open discussion. He's one of the good RP guys and is closer to the Christian position than the vast majority. His perennial frustration is that conservatives are far too keen to interview Pearl who got all her red pill ideas secondhand and was for all intents and purposes born yesterday, while completely ignoring guys like him who are the actual men affected and who are raising concerns and awareness. The daily wire ghosted him, and you can be a great witness to the DIFFERENCE between Biblical Christianity and Big Con if you reach out to him. I guarantee you he will see this interview and be incredibly frustrated in some ways because of the constant fascination 'conservatism' seems to have with Pearl at the expense of the actual manosphere voices. Please take this suggestion and invite him to do a stream. Men are ignored. Come on, you're the patriarchy pastor. Show him and his audience that we of all people won't ignore them. Thanks for reading
@@RightResponseMinistriesI've left a comment that UA-cam might be hiding, suggesting someone to speak to
@@RightResponseMinistriesyt is surpsn it. Please invite etterbay achelorbay bc he is discouraged that onservativescay only want to talk to 💃 about 👨's issues
Praying for Pearl. Lord, open her eyes, bring her to true repentance and salvation through Jesus. Save her, please.
She's a whole lot closer to Christ than you are. You're the one that needs deep repentance and salvation.
Thank you. I'm praying 4 her too. 🙏🏻👊🏼
Them: “I wish christian pastors could go on large platforms and not compromise true doctrine!”
The Church: “Release the Webbon!”
Submission to my Husband is not conditional to his submission to Christ. It's an act of obedience to God. It's between me & God. A wise Husband will listen to his Wife & always take her input into consideration. She should feel that she has been heard when time is not an issue. Wives should never play the "I told you so" card. He will learn over time what works & what doesn't. Your role is to build him up & be a place of refuge when he does fail, not a place of condemnation. He will not come to you for support if he gets a load of resentment & stress.
If your husband is living outside of God’s will and wants you to also live that way your submission to God comes first, and you do not have to be subject to your husband’s sinful direction.
@jseehowitsbeen3177 I agree & I'm blessed that my Husband would not lead me into sin. I know women who use their Husband's failure to follow God as an excuse for why they don't have to submit & I just wanted to speak against that.
You are putting a false god between you and the One True God if you submit to an unrighteous husband. God struck Saphira dead as well as Annanais. God has given women a difficult role, always in the horrid position of dealing with a sinful human husband while serving a righteous God. Before women could vote, a man could beat his wife regularly with no reprisals. He could cheat on her, fail to provide food and shelter to her and his children, and get away with all kinds of abuse. There was no law to stop him. Women have to be equal in the secular world to bring balance. You who are romanticizing male dominance have failed to study history. It is not the fault of women that men have walked away from manhood. Men have merely left a vacuum of leadership that women stepped into. Both sexes are sinful. I love this Right Response channel, but I am concerned concerning this one point of their doctrine.
@@jseehowitsbeen3177That's true but then you need an authority to dictate when your husband is being sinful or not & most pastors (not Pastor Joel though) often side with the woman always, no matter what. So, if a patient husband say, winds up rebuking his wife for inappropriate attire & she claims he's "verbally abusive", many pastors will claim he's bring sinful/wicked/ungodly etc
That said, I'd certainly trust Pastor Joel's in a marriage counseling type situation. I believe he'd administer truthful & balanced Biblical advice whether it was I or my wife (or both of us) who missed the mark & fumbled the ball
This was an awesome interview. I like so much of what Pastor Joel said, including some thoughts and ideas I had never heard before. I found this channel through Pearl and subscribed for more.
Really appreciate that. Welcome friend.
Pearl did great Pastor Joel is amazing. Great questions and direct answers with no pretense or hedging.
A substantive discussion. The guest did not dodge any questions or play coy. He spoke with boldness and it was so refreshing to hear.
Woah this is a crazy crossover
First, Doug Wilson and Tucker Carlson, and now this. What a week!
This crossover is WAY crazier than Doug’s and Tucker’s.
@@zacharymcleod8262 Nothingburgers.
Don't forget Nick Fuentes...
@@virtualpilgrim8645 Was he interviewed by someone relevant to this recently?
First Doug with Tucker, now Joel with Pearl.
We are so back.
We've never been more so back.
I didn't even know who Pearl was before this, but there's no way we're not all the way back
Also, Nick Fuentes...
Christians on the rise 😆👍
And some people I talk to are so blackpilled. I don’t understand how they don’t see we’re winning.
I really pray that Pearl would come to have a relationship with Jesus, and really study the word of God and have her eyes opened to a Biblical worldview.
She does. You could use a good reading of the Bible though.
@cryptojihadi265 I have read my Bible all the way through several times. I am a wife and mother and I actually try to live more like Christ daily. I do not see Pearl walking that path or actively trying to live a godly life. If you know her outside of her public platform and can point out how she is doing those things, please by all means, enlighten me. So far who she presents herself to the public does not show others that side of her, nor does it show she has a Biblical worldview or that she has a good understanding of God’s word.
@@cryptojihadi265she does not
I see people trash Pearl, but I love her ability to converse a wide range of subjects and honest openness to subject matters. She does a great service in opening much needed conversations and allowing people like Joel get to an audience that they normally wouldn’t have access to.
I have been praying for Pearl and will continue to do so. God is good and has given her a clear opportunity to repent and turn to Him. May it be so!
Begone Jezebel
Calling random women Jezbel makes no logical sense. Her comment was kind. You're a troll.
Joel is BASED! Gotta love it! America get BASED!!!!!!
Man the Big Eva ladies are gonna be mad! Keep up the good work. I’m as Arminian as they come, but thank you for fighting the good fight and helping to unscrew the Church.
This interview is FIRE! 🔥
It is awesome that you did this interview with this young lady. Pastor Joel you probably made a huge impact on this young lady. I truly appreciate this interview.
Thanks!
I can’t believe this gold is for free. So incredibly thankful for Pastor Webbon’s courage & clarity!!!!!
Bless you.
That explanation of transgenderism. Very insightful. As was everything else, really. Excellent.
This is the most humble I’ve ever seen her
Excellent discussion! I pray Pearl finds her way to Jesus! I believe and hope she is searching ❤️🙏✝️
I see Jezebel has sent her 304s to attack Pearl.
Sooo pathetic and obvious.
@@cryptojihadi265 I have no idea what you are talking about! ❤️🙏✝️
@@cryptojihadi265God needs you and Pearl to repent for knowing the demonic meaning of 304’s, judgment with your comment towards a God fearing Christian who’s genuinely concerned about Pearl now you . Praise Jesus 🙏🏻✝️☦️⛪️🩷
Men on these channels make me so grateful to and for my husband. Webbon is doing something right: bringing women like me closer to God in thankfulness.
How did he find you / what made you respect him / what made you say yes and how'd he initiate?
Same.
Heck, be thankful you’re married at all, to say nothing of the fact you’re in a decent marriage. Some of us look around and there’s, like, zero prospects. Even into our early/mid 20’s.
@@cosmictreason2242 We attended college together/I respect myself and others/he pursued me, but I formally called and asked him on a date, I planned everything and it seemed to make him feel special which was my plan
We are nearing 36 years together. Our children are grown and independent. We still like each other.
Great conversation and very helpful, thank you!
I think it is a wonderful interview. I think you are one of the best people to reach someone like Pearl. She is right on many things but still very lost. I think she needs someone like you to preach the true gospel. Since many in the church are weak and effeminate, she wouldn't hear it by a weak copementarian. "We need the red pill but we also need the white pill" was a great line.
💯
I'm glad this wasn't just an argument about getting married like she had with the daily wire people. This was refreshing and good
Thank you very much for posting this! 🎉
This was good. Thank you Pastor Joel. Appreciate you.
One of the best dialogues .. so perfect for the time we are in ..Soli Deo Gloria
YES!!! GREAT CHOICE!! BEEN LOVING HIS STUFF! thank you Jesus.
This… is awesome beyond words. I can’t describe how well this hits the nail on the head, and should be required listening. Joel is on fire with the Spirit and with truth here. Well done.
That was awesome. What a wonderful interview. Joel...thank you for sharing your wisdom from Jesus Christ to Pearl. I pray that Pearl would come to the full knowledge of the truth and that Jesus is King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
Wow big ups to Pearly things 4 having this in interview. Big ups to Pastor Webbon! 🙏🏻👊🏼
Shout out to the Gison twins in SD!
I has been praying and repenting for 3 years. I pray for forgiveness of the sin of idolatry, apathy, and disobedience against God. I pray for forgiveness for my family and community. I don't watch movies anymore. I don't spend time "for myself". My spare time is listening or reading scripture or praying. I pray for good pastors. We are sheep without shepherds. We are in a battle without our armor. But, God. He provided us a savior and a hope. Keep praying and repenting. Worry about the plank in your own eye, so you can help your brother with the speck in his eye.
I pray for the white race
@@virtualpilgrim8645God doesn't care about colour dude
@@meggo329 You may not care about color but color cares about you. Prepare accordingly...
Cant wait to listen to this!
Awesome interview!
Thank you Joel for this great interview.
Wow! Dropping this right after Pastor Doug / Tucker interview
FANTASTIC!
Well done. You didn't overwhelm with terms and unexplained jargon
Ironically he overwhelmed her with terms like navel gazing and Venn diagrams
She doesn't understand ecclesiastical either
Loved the interview! Bring back Joel again sometime!
Joel Webbon is the man!!
WASB, Brother. WGMI.
Praise be to God.
Two of my favorites finally together 🙂
Didn't know Matt Walsh had a brother
💀
Excellent
great interview
Joel is in rare form today!
Only halfway. How can it get better still? 😱
Cogent
Noticed the same thing.
I had been hoping someone with a solid foundation in the gospel would speak to Pearl. She very often has people who have weak faith speaking to her, she sees through their hypocrisy and the hopeful message of the gospel is poorly delivered.
That was a wonderful pastoral witness.
Praise our Lord for the pastoral gift He has blessed you with.
Amen the 19th amendment is a serious problem as stated and segment 10:35 of the video: finally someone speaking the truth
Its a shame this didnt make it on pealrs page. Praying she might post it herself.
That would be great
Great stuff, Joel! (But I knew it would be.)
This woman is SUCH A GEM!!!!!!!
she a huge hypocrite, going around shaming woman and telling them what they ought to do, when she herself don’t hold to those standards. She is not someone to look up too.
@@rubylove9475 go make your husband a sandwich
😂
Not the crossover I expected but glad she got to talk to you. She needs to hear from men like you.
Joel,
Please have on Better Bachelor for an open discussion. He's one of the good RP guys and is closer to the Christian position than the vast majority. His perennial frustration is that conservatives are far too keen to interview Pearl who got all her red pill ideas secondhand and was for all intents and purposes born yesterday, while completely ignoring guys like him who are the actual men affected and who are raising concerns and awareness. The daily wire ghosted him, and you can be a great witness to the DIFFERENCE between Biblical Christianity and Big Con if you reach out to him. I guarantee you he will see this interview and be incredibly frustrated in some ways because of the constant fascination 'conservatism' seems to have with Pearl at the expense of the actual manosphere voices. Please take this suggestion and invite him to do a stream. Men are ignored. Come on, you're the patriarchy pastor. Show him and his audience that we of all people won't ignore them. Thanks for reading
Never heard of Pearl before this Not impressed. Woman appears to not have ever read any books. (However, that may be a plus in Joel's world. Women not reading books. lol)
Great episode. Would have loved to hear a bit more of a back and forth at the end as he presented his case for solution to problems with world today. His idea of the white pill after the red pill is in pretty stark contrast to Pearl’s opinion. Schedule a follow up. It would be interesting discussion to hear.
Pearl sounds awesome and ready dor Christianity 🎉😃🙌
I would recommend Pearl listen to Dr. James White (Alpha Omega Ministries) on the subject of Catholicism, given her background and her current worldview. We should all be praying for these younger folks like her. Thanks Joel (and Pearl!).
Protestant heretics
@@kylelangton2718how so?
Time-stamps
7:50, 8:20 - This is a fascinating take on individualism.
11:35 - Women in office
13:30 - Women in the home vs in the court
15:13, 15:57 - complementarianism
16:15, 17:20 - hijacked
18:12 - Different roles “just because”, or different roles because of nature?
18:55 - Can’t submit to husbands if they don’t submit to God?
20:06 - Ephesians 5
20:27 - Disagreement between couples, when does the authority of the husband come into play?
Joel and almost all protestant pastors, all, agree and so does the Catholic Church agree that it is God's Grace that saves us but after we are save, following the Way, it is not by Grace alone but also Grace and penitence or repeating that becomes a necessary factor to be continuously cleanse by Christ's Blood if we are Heaven bound.
Blue laws also allow for blue collar workers who don't have a 9-5 to attend church.
That's the main thing it's for, yeah. It allows them to do their Christian duty without fear of punishment.
Marvel: Endgame is going to be the most ambitious crossover in history!
Right Response Ministrues: 😁
Wow, I didn't expect Pearl would choose Joel to talk with. This is very good. I doubt if Pearl can follow most of what Joel is talking about. No shade on Pearl, but she just would not have familiarity with the words and concepts Joel talks about. Pearl has said she does not even understand Catholicism and she spent years there.
Pastor Joel, this interview was very refreshing.
I love how you tactically explained biblical and political issues helping the audience understand that we don’t have to separate them.
I disagree with you that the “Red pill” doesn’t have a solution. They have a solution but it’s rather based on hedonism rather than serving your neighbor
the solution to the red pill is the end of feminism and its values in society. Both movements feed off each other and basically justify the anger and resentment of their respective counterparts, for feminists such blatant disregard for female political freedoms as well as the generalization of modern femininity as something bad, justifies the crusade of feminists against men basing their hatred on this concepts, and for the red pill their anger and resentment is based on the current complete demonization of masculinity as well as the idolization of toxic femininity which is something currently accepted and endorsed in society, justifying the red pill movement wanting to distance men from women.
This problem is hard to solve since to end any of the two, the other must be destroyed alongside it. Since if one of the ideologies survives the other will rise once again, basically perpetrating the gender war.
The role of the church in this is to preach against both movements and their ideologies, to not spare neither. If it focuses on only one group it will end up pushing the people of it away from God, seeing as some kind of gendered persecution. I've seen many Christian men who were flirting with red pill ideas quit church after the pastor started preaching solely against it, leaving feminism out of it. Even more so defending feminist notions inside the church, such as female leadership, and giving far too much credit to its female congregates, a credit that most times is not deserved.
"This is getting interesting."
I believe God is working on a lot of people that have a platform. I don’t know what Tucker Carlson believes, but the fact that he teamed up with Doug Wilson is encouraging. Also, Dawkins labels himself as a cultural Christian. Also pay attention to who in Christianity is getting a platform and who isn’t anymore.
Joel I think this episode - definitely influenced Pearl - given the trajectory of her recent topics
Wow! Joel is hardcore...
Knowing you, you only say that for his comment about German blasphemy laws
Great job Pastor Joel! Although it’s tough to imagine the Church being more woke than the Universities… 🤷♂️
What was the background to this discussion? How did it begin? Why wasn't posted on pearl page? We do need solid Christian leaders to engage the world more
If you look at the description he explains why it's not on pearls page
I pray she gets saved
This shows how much redpill podcasters actually know about the church. Pastor Joel is one of many pastors not pushing wokeness. Hope she tries to interview more of them
Sharp, a sound mind... it's almost like you can tell he actually reads his Bible and knows Him.
At the tower of Babel, they had one language, think Latin, and God divided them into many languages. Acts 2:8“And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?”
*slow heavy metal music plays*
I'm not a fan of pearl. But, Pastor Joel was awesome, per usual.
Really appreciate that.
Why no video?
Undoubtedly the video is on Pearl's page
They had tech issues so had no plans to release it - thankfully we had the backup audio file and they allowed us to release.
L for me, i was dead wrong. Hopefully she boosts it with a community post
Why would a Christian nationalist, who wants a civic magistrate enforcing the 10 commandments, call for capital punishment? In what way does that not violate "thou shall not kill"?
1:31:38 if I’m recalling correctly, she was going to be burned alive, though I may be mistaken. When the English Governor, a military officer of some kind, heard about this and inquired the locals told him “this is our religious tradition.” He then had his men construct a gallows for hangings… and the locals came and inquired about it, and the governor told them “oh I heard that some people were going to burn alive an innocent woman, who has done no wrong… that’s called murder. In England we hang murderers, this is OUR religious tradition.” The big takeaway from this is that this was a man who was on a political appointment and allowed God’s law to dictate his governance. A result which the king at that time would have undoubtedly agreed with.
Where did Pastor Webbon go to seminary?
I didn’t.
@@RightResponseMinistries Wow, and wow.
@@RightResponseMinistries Now watching your most recent video with MacIntyre.
What IS your academic background?
Anyone know a good Chiropractor in Austin area? Joel needs an adjustment from carrying this conversation.
I'm really hoping, before i listen, that I'm going to actually hear a Christian give someone the Gospel and not fumble at the 5 yard line like always seems to happen
I stand against my faith when I say this but we need to clone Pastor Joel immediately. Joking aside, even though I tend to align with many of Pastor Joel's positions, I also respect him simply because he says what he means & means what he says. He's caught a lot of flak from all sides (including the egalitarians, complimentarians, & fellow "Christians" and Evangelicals) but he remains unmoved in his convictions. As a man, you have to hold that unwavering faith in high regard, and even if you largely differed with his worldview. He's not a coward, or a prosperity gospel hack, or a clergyman overly concerned with worldly affairs like wealth, fame, & status by those in the fallen world. God bless you & your family Pastor Joel. God gave the increase 👍
Incredibly kind. Thank you. Please pray for continued strength and courage; that I would not compromise.
Pretty lame that Pearl didn't post.
She ain’t about that life
While preparing my income taxes this year, I was surprised at how much I had spent on Charity. I should point out that “Charity” is her stage name.
Just to clarify, I dont think Pearl CANT come to Christ. She absolutely can. She needs correction so she can repent properly. I dont expect instant change but there should be some change in mentality and I think she needs to lay off that Nala girl cause they are both sinners and Nala seems to be honest about her repentance. Pearl said that facts dont care about Michael Knowles religion though then claims to be Catholic. God is a fact Pearl. Youre a sinner too; anyone can be redeemed through Christ. You too. At the moment you come off as sincere as lil Nas. Im sorry to say that; I will pray for you still.
Nala is still soliciting OFs subscriptions. Pearl is excellent at spotting hypocrisy, and she is not wrong about that girl. Everyone is being played for fools by that chick
1:29:50 Crusades
37:28 micdrop moment
Isaiah 3:12 God judgement upon a people and please remember that God does not punish His people but chastises them is women and children rule over them. God chastisement/judgement is upon u.s.a./His people.
Maybe Putin will interview Joel next.
I’d be more than willing to share the Gospel with him.
Haha did you just compared Pearl to Putin? 😂
We need to codify Leviticus 20:13 into our legal system.
I really would like to hear a Biblical defense of the death penalty if anybody has a good source on that it would be much appreciated. I could argue against the death penalty from purely secular and logical reasons because the death penalty is totally irrational and illogical. But reason and logic aside, I definitely want to know if it is Biblically necessary. If God requires the death penalty, then we should do it regardless. But if God doesn't require that we use the death penalty, it would be obviously better that we don't.
Death penalty is logical and rational, and it was instituted by the only logical and rational God.
@@shaneamundson1192 See but what I'm asking for is proof of that claim though. Considering that I already don't believe that the death penalty is logical and rational and I've already conceded that I would support it if a solid Biblical case could be mounted in favor of it, the burden of proof is now on you to please give me Bible verses or something that proves that we need to be using the death penalty. Otherwise I'm going to say that we shouldn't do it at all given the risk of false positives and the fact that it's more expensive to carry out than for a guy to serve a life sentence. If there's going to be any risk at all that we kill the wrong person AND you're telling me that you want to spend MORE tax dollars, you need to prove that God requires this.
I really like Joel, although I don’t agree with him on everything. But on many things I think the church needs to listen to him. There were a lot of topics mentioned here. One disagreement: I don’t believe Africa will be the world’s salvation (although God can do anything). I believe if the west falls then the world will enter a dark age.
Better to stay single, as St. Paul says.
Matt Walsh?
Here is something I often ask regarding this idea that there is certainty in understanding of the scriptures because of the authority of the roman catholic church (or orthodox church for that matter). It's been 2000 years. Why is it that the RCC has not dogmatically interpreted the whole of scripture. If the church is the authority, why does catholic answers exist? It should be a done deal. If there is such clarity in the RCC regarding the scriptures, how on earth do you get Francis? It is a nice idea, but in practice it just doesn't hold up. Just about the only things the RCC is dogmatic on are all the things not in scripture. The whole thing is absurd. Every interpretation save a very few are subject to change. God gave us his word, and he has been sufficiently clear in that word, especially on core doctrines.
Protestant heretics
@@kylelangton2718 Sick burn!
The Sabbath wasn't changed to Sunday though. It's fine to call it the Lord's day. But the Sabbath is still Saturday
There is no longer a sabbath day of the week, and when it did exist, the bible clearly states it was only for the Jews. Jesus Christ's work on the cross is forever finished. He is our sabbath.
Sure it was. It's all there in the Bible.
47:20
“The real object of the first amendment was not to countenance, much less advance, mohammedanism, or Judaism, or infidelity by prostrating Christianity; but to exclude all rivalry among the Christian sects.”
- Justice Joseph Story, 1833
“By our form of government the Christian religion is the established religion and all sects and denominations of Christians are placed upon the same equal footing, and are equally entitled to protection in their religious liberty.” - Justice Samuel Chase
”…This is a religious people. This is historically true. From the discovery of this continent to the present hour, there is a single voice making this affirmation.” - Court decision in Church if the Holy Trinity v. United States, page 143 U.S. 465 and following.
The optimism is misplaced. The story of the OT is that, even with all the benefits of being God's people, we fail. It is always only a tiny remnant who are "uncorrupted". That doesn't mean "good", that just means their mind and efforts are mostly in the right direction. We are not called to recreate the OT Jewish nation. The OT nation's failure was not a surprise to God, it was an object lesson for us. Jesus didn't try to recreate it, the apostles didn't try to recreate it. There no problem living out our Christian values in public and political life, but Paul did not try to replace Caesar. Revelation 17-18 talks about the prostitute (corrupt church) "Babylon" who fornicates with "princes and the merchants of the earth". It is an unholy union of the church, the state and the powerful/wealthy. The history of the Roman Catholic and established churches of Europe shows us what happens when you do this. It is not good for the church or the population at large.
More careful reading of scripture required. Also, if "sola scriptura"... why are you trying to keep Sunday special by banning trade? Did the God of the OT change his mind? If so, show me where.
53:19 brother, it might behoove us to stop using the leftist state worshippers’ vocabulary and start calling it the “free market” again instead of “capitalism.”
57:55 But the place he wants to get his laws from allows slavery…
So many “alones”.