Christ Jesus Crucified Christ Jesus risen that's the Foundation we all build on and agree on.Everything else is else is authorized to examine and discuss debate on and share what God has shown us❤.
Thank you for this message, Pastor Jesse! The majority of churches are fractured messes! Multiple, erroneous doctrines/heresies being taught under one roof, etc. I'm so thankful to have found Calvary of Tampa and Northland Bible Church!!! Thank you for not allowing heresies to infiltrate this ministry!
Yes! Tom Cucuzza is faithful there at Northland. Thanks for encouraging the ministries that share the clear gospel. May we reach more and more. - Trent
I am very careful who i listen to and only listen to clear gospel preachers, but i have found clear gospel teachers that believe in pre, mid and post tribulation personally i am not sure pray its pre and seems that way. Glad to here you say you fellowship with others that believe different as long as the gospel is not muddled. I see some attacking, stop sharing there clear gospel post, and warning others that they don’t believe the timing of the rapture the way they do.
I think your comments best describe how I feel as well. It does sadden me to see Christians fighting amongst each other as to whose teaching are more accurate rather than concentrating on teaching the gospel. At this point I spend my time concentrating on my relationship with the lord while trying to lead others to him. Because I sincerely believe we are living in the end times heading into the tribulations. Thus to me these are the most important things we should be doing. 😇🤗❤🙏
Those people who preach a "clear gospel", but aren't pre-trib are likely influenced by Steven Anderson. It's an odd mixture of doctrine they have, because it's widely known that Free Grace theology is a corollary of Dispensationalism (which teaches a pre-trib rapture). BTW, Steven Anderson isn't actually clear on the gospel. He teaches salvation by prayer.
I just found out who he is ,no I don’t agree with him at all i quit following him when i read how he hates homosexuals. We are suppose to love them but not what they do not want them put to death. I don’t care for the way he hollows either but thats just me, mostly because of false teacher i had in the past
A very interesting topic. Who is correctly teaching on the meaning of Baptism for example. The honest, wise & Godly Lutheran, Presbyterian or Baptist? Who are all united in the claim to Sola Scriptura & each devoted to walking with the Holy Spirit. The meaning of Baptism is also important isn't it? Especially for the Lutheran Prodistant. It's also a subject of faith & practice. Not just faith. Whatever I believe about End times or Genesis obedience is not specifically required from me. However should I baptise my infint child or not requires faith into practice, obedience. What is God's Will? The subject of Baptism & the Ecurest are the two Prodistant Sacraments which are obviously very important but there is no consensus of agreement with these...Sola Scriptura but various interpretations by wise, devoted godly believers. Interesting too that when Jesus said the Holy Spirit will guide you into all truth he was talking to His disciples. Some believers who hold to an Apostolic succession model of authority interpret this to mean The Holy Spirit will lead the Apostles into All truth. They are the writers of our cannon, not the readers. I'm not Catholic or Eastern orthodox by the way. I'm a Christian attending an Anglican church. I'd love to hear your thoughts and the thoughts of others here. God bless
I attend a AOG church (ugh but thats where we are right now, i wish not). When THEY say dont quench the Holy Spirit, theybare meaning, dont NOT speak in tongues, dont NOT raise your hands during P&W, dont NOT believe when one give a "word pf knowledge"...knowledge is used lightly in my opinion.
Also, what about the LDS church (Mormons)? They don't believe the right things but they do believe in Jesus, but also works. So are they gonna be saved just disappointed that they don't become a god?
I believe there are levels of deception that make the deception even worse! That makes sense in my head, but how have we laughed at someone who gave all their money for a prayer cloth so God would bless them- "Haha, what a sucker" but then John MacArthur says, "you're not saved by works, but if you're saved your works will show it," and we fall for it, showing the same sucker-ability, but we "grade" it differently. Like sin. Only one word for it- hamartia. There aren't multiple words, or tenses for this "missing the mark." So we judge the different false msgs like we judge their sin and both are wrong. Hope that makes sense!
This is interesting - but the question remains Why do two Christian’s who are both loving Godly lives and are kind and earnest and devoted to Bible study… Why do these two Christians come to different interpretations of the Bible? There is truth and error. And not all those who are obedient and who study come to the same conclusions. Example given in the question - pre and post trib. There is not a wide spread agreement here. Not to mention Calvinism and other doctrines that passionate dedicated Christians get caught up in. I’m still confused.
Men are still fallible and open to pride. Even men who are clear on wide slew of topics get things wrong. I’ve changed my mind on certain passages in the past 3 years because I’ve studied more and more. The prophecy things are probably more debated because we are discussing the future instead of the past. What is crucial is salvation, eternal security, and any doctrines related to the character of God. Those are where we cannot have things wrong. I believe those are also the “most clear” to see in scripture. - Trent
Idk man there's some geneniue believers that I believe just go by tradition though when you study the Bible it's either very obvious or can be very vague. I definitely agree that we should he more focused on the major things like you say but minor things like is eating meat a sin or is that a sin which Paul brings up Is where I think we can disagree. I do question if the Holy Spirit is to guide us into all truth is that a literal statement or is it just the major things that we need to know for our lives.
In the beginning was the word,the Word was with God and the word was God... It's living..Millions of different members to the body of Christ Jesus..Works he prepared for us individually in advance for God's purposes and should be uniquely discerning in a deep relationship between us and God.. Namely Christ Jesus ❤.. Whom are sealed in Christ Jesus and Born again.. A million Falsely motivated Self centered Selfish ambition and corruption in those unregenerated and his account of and purposes Cherry picking scripture. Selling his version as the final authority of Truth... Don't waste your time..Dust of the feet..Press on❤
We already have a template of the end times that we can look to in the flood of Noah. Enoch walked with God and was taken, and Noah and his family were preserved through the wrath of God as a remnant, while the rest of the world was destroyed. As the end times are spelled out, we'll have the rapture, 144,000 kept through the wrath as a remnant, and the rest of the world destroyed in the process. Those 144,000 can't be believers yet, or else they would be taken up in the rapture. It will be the great tribulation period that brings about their conversion, and like Noah's family they will be protected while God's wrath destroys everything else. God gives us predictable patterns we can look to, because he is consistent in all of his ways.
That and they need to compare scripture with scripture not traditions or reading words to today's standards rather than the historical standard or biblical standards.
@@marioandultrachap Indeed. I always look to the Greek (NT) and Hebrew (OT), as well as the context of the passage to understand what is being conveyed. People don’t seem to comprehend that the Bible is nearly 3470 years old (based on when Moses wrote the first 5 books of the Bible). If we’re talking about the events written about by Moses, then the Word goes back to the beginning of mankind, which makes the Bible 6000+ years old. Now, since Jesus Christ is the Word (God) in the flesh, that means God’s Word has existed for eternity.
Christ Jesus Crucified Christ Jesus risen that's the Foundation we all build on and agree on.Everything else is else is authorized to examine and discuss debate on and share what God has shown us❤.
I am really enjoying this channel! You give clear concise teaching and I appreciate this so much!
Thank you so much!!
- Trent
Thank you for this message, Pastor Jesse! The majority of churches are fractured messes! Multiple, erroneous doctrines/heresies being taught under one roof, etc.
I'm so thankful to have found Calvary of Tampa and Northland Bible Church!!!
Thank you for not allowing heresies to infiltrate this ministry!
Yes! Tom Cucuzza is faithful there at Northland. Thanks for encouraging the ministries that share the clear gospel. May we reach more and more.
- Trent
Thank you Brother Martinez
Sure thing Abraham!
- Trent
Man! You hit the nail on the head. False doctrine serves self!
Thanks Leo!
- Trent
Thank you pastor!
Sure thing Daniel!
- Trent
I am very careful who i listen to and only listen to clear gospel preachers, but i have found clear gospel teachers that believe in pre, mid and post tribulation personally i am not sure pray its pre and seems that way. Glad to here you say you fellowship with others that believe different as long as the gospel is not muddled. I see some attacking, stop sharing there clear gospel post, and warning others that they don’t believe the timing of the rapture the way they do.
I think your comments best describe how I feel as well. It does sadden me to see Christians fighting amongst each other as to whose teaching are more accurate rather than concentrating on teaching the gospel. At this point I spend my time concentrating on my relationship with the lord while trying to lead others to him. Because I sincerely believe we are living in the end times heading into the tribulations. Thus to me these are the most important things we should be doing.
😇🤗❤🙏
@@monabram4955 yea I'm not good at witnessing but handing out many tracks with the clear gospel on them praying to plant seeds.
Those people who preach a "clear gospel", but aren't pre-trib are likely influenced by Steven Anderson. It's an odd mixture of doctrine they have, because it's widely known that Free Grace theology is a corollary of Dispensationalism (which teaches a pre-trib rapture).
BTW, Steven Anderson isn't actually clear on the gospel. He teaches salvation by prayer.
@@biblebeliever2795 haven’t listened to him and really dont want to if he’s not clear on the gospel
I just found out who he is ,no I don’t agree with him at all i quit following him when i read how he hates homosexuals. We are suppose to love them but not what they do not want them put to death. I don’t care for the way he hollows either but thats just me, mostly because of false teacher i had in the past
How do you define what walking in the spirit is? Is it bearing fruit and commandment keeping?
it is faith in christ. not of anything you can do, hence "spirit". your works are the "flesh".
A very interesting topic. Who is correctly teaching on the meaning of Baptism for example. The honest, wise & Godly Lutheran, Presbyterian or Baptist? Who are all united in the claim to Sola Scriptura & each devoted to walking with the Holy Spirit. The meaning of Baptism is also important isn't it? Especially for the Lutheran Prodistant. It's also a subject of faith & practice. Not just faith. Whatever I believe about End times or Genesis obedience is not specifically required from me. However should I baptise my infint child or not requires faith into practice, obedience. What is God's Will? The subject of Baptism & the Ecurest are the two Prodistant Sacraments which are obviously very important but there is no consensus of agreement with these...Sola Scriptura but various interpretations by wise, devoted godly believers. Interesting too that when Jesus said the Holy Spirit will guide you into all truth he was talking to His disciples. Some believers who hold to an Apostolic succession model of authority interpret this to mean The Holy Spirit will lead the Apostles into All truth. They are the writers of our cannon, not the readers. I'm not Catholic or Eastern orthodox by the way. I'm a Christian attending an Anglican church. I'd love to hear your thoughts and the thoughts of others here. God bless
I attend a AOG church (ugh but thats where we are right now, i wish not). When THEY say dont quench the Holy Spirit, theybare meaning, dont NOT speak in tongues, dont NOT raise your hands during P&W, dont NOT believe when one give a "word pf knowledge"...knowledge is used lightly in my opinion.
Modern texts
Very good point.
Also, what about the LDS church (Mormons)? They don't believe the right things but they do believe in Jesus, but also works. So are they gonna be saved just disappointed that they don't become a god?
I believe there are levels of deception that make the deception even worse! That makes sense in my head, but how have we laughed at someone who gave all their money for a prayer cloth so God would bless them- "Haha, what a sucker" but then John MacArthur says, "you're not saved by works, but if you're saved your works will show it," and we fall for it, showing the same sucker-ability, but we "grade" it differently. Like sin. Only one word for it- hamartia. There aren't multiple words, or tenses for this "missing the mark." So we judge the different false msgs like we judge their sin and both are wrong. Hope that makes sense!
This is interesting - but the question remains
Why do two Christian’s who are both loving Godly lives and are kind and earnest and devoted to Bible study…
Why do these two Christians come to different interpretations of the Bible?
There is truth and error. And not all those who are obedient and who study come to the same conclusions.
Example given in the question - pre and post trib. There is not a wide spread agreement here.
Not to mention Calvinism and other doctrines that passionate dedicated Christians get caught up in.
I’m still confused.
Men are still fallible and open to pride. Even men who are clear on wide slew of topics get things wrong. I’ve changed my mind on certain passages in the past 3 years because I’ve studied more and more. The prophecy things are probably more debated because we are discussing the future instead of the past. What is crucial is salvation, eternal security, and any doctrines related to the character of God. Those are where we cannot have things wrong. I believe those are also the “most clear” to see in scripture.
- Trent
@ amén!
So when you say believers will be deceived, so just because we misunderstand something as a believer, it doesn't mean we are not saved right?
Idk man there's some geneniue believers that I believe just go by tradition though when you study the Bible it's either very obvious or can be very vague. I definitely agree that we should he more focused on the major things like you say but minor things like is eating meat a sin or is that a sin which Paul brings up Is where I think we can disagree. I do question if the Holy Spirit is to guide us into all truth is that a literal statement or is it just the major things that we need to know for our lives.
In the beginning was the word,the Word was with God and the word was God... It's living..Millions of different members to the body of Christ Jesus..Works he prepared for us individually in advance for God's purposes and should be uniquely discerning in a deep relationship between us and God.. Namely Christ Jesus ❤.. Whom are sealed in Christ Jesus and Born again.. A million Falsely motivated Self centered Selfish ambition and corruption in those unregenerated and his account of and purposes Cherry picking scripture. Selling his version as the final authority of Truth... Don't waste your time..Dust of the feet..Press on❤
We already have a template of the end times that we can look to in the flood of Noah. Enoch walked with God and was taken, and Noah and his family were preserved through the wrath of God as a remnant, while the rest of the world was destroyed. As the end times are spelled out, we'll have the rapture, 144,000 kept through the wrath as a remnant, and the rest of the world destroyed in the process. Those 144,000 can't be believers yet, or else they would be taken up in the rapture. It will be the great tribulation period that brings about their conversion, and like Noah's family they will be protected while God's wrath destroys everything else. God gives us predictable patterns we can look to, because he is consistent in all of his ways.
People need to actually learn how to read. That’s the issue here…
That and they need to compare scripture with scripture not traditions or reading words to today's standards rather than the historical standard or biblical standards.
@@marioandultrachap
Indeed. I always look to the Greek (NT) and Hebrew (OT), as well as the context of the passage to understand what is being conveyed. People don’t seem to comprehend that the Bible is nearly 3470 years old (based on when Moses wrote the first 5 books of the Bible). If we’re talking about the events written about by Moses, then the Word goes back to the beginning of mankind, which makes the Bible 6000+ years old. Now, since Jesus Christ is the Word (God) in the flesh, that means God’s Word has existed for eternity.
Who ordained the false teachers to teach what they teach? I noticed you read they were "Ordained" to do this.