The Netherlands is a Giant City

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    The Netherlands has a secret about its structure and design. Today we will reveal this secret.
    fern is a joint venture by:
    / @romulushoog
    / @simplicissimus
    Sources: docs.google.co...
    Music:
    Artlist:
    Alon Peretz - Song for Heather
    idokay - Chevalet
    Maya Belsitzman & Matan Ephrat - Once Upon a Time
    Yehezkel Raz - Flight of the Inner Bird - Instrumental Version
    EpidemicSound:
    Etienne Roussel - Growing Tall
    Philip Ayers - Hybrid Organism
    Eden Avery - Montage of a Map
    Sindrandi - Nuna
    Trevor Kowalski - Rest Upon the Edge
    Silver Maple - We Are Giants
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    Armchair documentaries, almost weekly

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  • @theninjabird9510
    @theninjabird9510 Рік тому +7067

    As one of three people that live in Monaco I have to say we are not a real country, you got us

    • @hsdsaunders
      @hsdsaunders Рік тому +695

      Still real nice for you to be legally not french

    • @benedict6897
      @benedict6897 Рік тому +159

      A blessing@@hsdsaunders

    • @linkvos8151
      @linkvos8151 Рік тому +18

      You’re not from Monaco

    • @benedictdawkins
      @benedictdawkins Рік тому +69

      ​@@benedict6897rly random but I have never met another person called Benedict

    • @zergling2621
      @zergling2621 Рік тому +20

      ​@@benedictdawkinsdo people just call you Ben?

  • @NiAlBlack
    @NiAlBlack Рік тому +6008

    My takeaway from this video is that New York City's urban area as well as other urban areas in the USA should be built more like the Netherlands.

    • @red_roy
      @red_roy Рік тому +91

      HEAR HEAR !

    • @connorcrowley1
      @connorcrowley1 Рік тому +138

      NYC has better Urbanism than the Netherlands. The peak density and lowest car ownership rates of the Netherlands would match Brooklyn and Queens, suburbs of Manhattan.
      Manhattan generates much more wealth, and has half the car ownership rate of Amsterdam because it's level of density supports transit based urbanism rather than the Dutch suburbanism of bikes in Amsterdam.
      I write this as a nederlander. Street space allocation is a small but important subset of the subject of urbanism AND is entirely independent of density. Transit... Is not.

    • @teaser6089
      @teaser6089 Рік тому +393

      @@connorcrowley1 What, there is less homelessness in The Netherlands because of our Urban design, than there is in NYC or the rest of the USA for that matter.
      The Netherlands has denser and more livable urban area's, designed to make the life of citizens more convenient, instead of the life of motorists...

    • @monopixel5569
      @monopixel5569 Рік тому +39

      BIG YES!
      anyone has exposed to the Netherlands urbanism knows we all should follow their lead in urban design

    • @connorcrowley1
      @connorcrowley1 Рік тому +62

      @@teaser6089 the Randstad rate of homeless is as high as NYC. Utrecht has a homeless rate that is 10x houston metro despite a much slower growth rate.
      I wouldn't conflate road space allocation with the entire subject matter of urbanism. There are crazy great levels of walk ability Tokyo and NYC can easily be improved with political will. Nothing inherent with NYC densities that require a large amount of traffic lanes.
      The car ownership of Manhattan is 1/2 the rate of the car ownership in Amsterdam. Transit ridership is way way way higher in NYC and in absolute numbers more people cycle in NYC than in Amsterdam.

  • @sitrek1423
    @sitrek1423 7 місяців тому +558

    Belgian Propaganda

    • @Kirby_Edits69
      @Kirby_Edits69 5 місяців тому +10

      FRRR

    • @VonHeims
      @VonHeims 4 місяці тому +7

      True.

    • @Gamer_Anthon
      @Gamer_Anthon 4 місяці тому +2

      1000%

    • @OfficalBird_man
      @OfficalBird_man 3 місяці тому +8

      As a Belgian i would formally apologise for you thinking that but still we beat you in 1831

    • @neogivxapwntcpaa
      @neogivxapwntcpaa 3 місяці тому +6

      ​@@OfficalBird_man belguim fell off after that, only used as a speedbump in ww2

  • @EenGamer.
    @EenGamer. Рік тому +289

    As someone who has cycled across the whole country in 1 day, I can confirm its mostly fields.

    • @RonDgasz
      @RonDgasz 11 місяців тому +5

      jahoor

    • @therealspeedwagon1451
      @therealspeedwagon1451 3 місяці тому +1

      But what do they grow in those fields? You have to feed such a massive and dense population somehow

    • @brianlbeck
      @brianlbeck 3 місяці тому

      @@therealspeedwagon1451 ohh so you're like an actual idiot, huh?

    • @brianlbeck
      @brianlbeck 3 місяці тому

      @@therealspeedwagon1451 are you a social engineer? What a smart comment!

    • @EenGamer.
      @EenGamer. 3 місяці тому +1

      @@therealspeedwagon1451 potatoes and grain

  • @ArturoStojanoff
    @ArturoStojanoff Рік тому +112

    I love the Urk and Burk section as a linguist. People are often confused as to how it is that languages get simpler over time, yet they still haven't all collapsed into the most simple they could be. Also they wonder why languages wouldn't just tend towards more simplicity, as it is much easier to learn, and anyone who has to learn the complicated grammar rules of a foreign language can attest to the fact that simplifying things would be great for learners.
    But that section shows how simpler grammar, with fewer specific features designed to organize and classify information makes it harder to understand language, so it makes sense languages would not tend towards the most simplicity, but instead towards a balance of simplicity and complexity, since a simpler language is easier to learn, but a more specific language is easier to understand once you've already learned it.
    And the Urk and Burk section shows this in how it was actually harder to understand than if you'd use normal English grammar.

    • @mikespearwood3914
      @mikespearwood3914 Рік тому +2

      Why does he even do that?? It's jarring! This is the first video I've seen of this channel, and then I'm curious why he randomly starts talking like a simpleton??

    • @CantTellYou
      @CantTellYou 11 місяців тому +10

      @@mikespearwood3914 to insert humor into an otherwise serious video. They, self-admittedly, simplify explanations of things in order to keep videos

    • @rvs1
      @rvs1 8 місяців тому +1

      more upvotes on this. nice tangential lesson.

    • @danyl.fernandes
      @danyl.fernandes 4 місяці тому +1

      > how simpler grammar...makes it harder to understand
      That's illogical. It's only harder to understand because you're used to the complexity. If this is how it always were, you wouldn't find it difficult.

    • @SibaNL
      @SibaNL 2 місяці тому

      @@danyl.fernandes it's about nuances

  • @lesumsi
    @lesumsi Рік тому +2816

    I think the story of Urk & Burk is great summary of Dutch history. This should become a full-length movie.

    • @noelxlk
      @noelxlk Рік тому +258

      urk and burk die
      me cry 😭😭😭

    • @schellwalabyen4656
      @schellwalabyen4656 Рік тому

      Luckily one of the biggest shitholes of the country is named after Urk.

    • @bedeckt
      @bedeckt Рік тому +31

      ​@@noelxlkbut urk & buruk have achieved their true purpose and even made sure that their children carry on the important message. From my view it's the best ending possible

    • @forsomereasonistillcannotfly
      @forsomereasonistillcannotfly Рік тому +87

      @@bedeckt too many word. no understand

    • @realcanadian67
      @realcanadian67 Рік тому +38

      ​@@forsomereasonistillcannotflywhat "understand" mean. Big word, no think.

  • @markuserikssen
    @markuserikssen Рік тому +2320

    If you talk about The Randstad, it's perhaps one big city region, but once you get out there, it's definitely not like that everywhere. Here in the north, we have way too much space between cities and towns for it to be called a giant city. In that way, we are just a country with some very dense populated regions.

    • @-haclong2366
      @-haclong2366 Рік тому +131

      As someone who moved from a rural small village in Eastern Groningen to a suburban part of a major city in the Randstad I'd say that it's not all big city here, in 5 minutes I'm in a village that looks and feels similar to a northern village and the metro goes through some of it.

    • @HermanWillems
      @HermanWillems Рік тому +37

      @@-haclong2366 Netherlands is very strict on what each square meter should be used for. Water? Nature? Buildings? Farming? We get now problems because there is not enough land for build houses. But nobody is like.. lets use the water or nature. So there is one thing left. Use farmland for more buildings. as more than 50% of all land is allocated as farmland. Which makes these stark differences even in the randstad.

    • @SteveVJones
      @SteveVJones Рік тому +44

      @@-haclong2366 So true, i live in a village in the Randstad, but also have a view of miles of uninterrupted Polderlandschap. Doesnt feel like living in a giant city at all.

    • @scipio42
      @scipio42 Рік тому +20

      I mean, sure it's a village, but let's not fool ourselves into thinking it's some kind of rural outpost far away from the big city or something like that. It's still very much interconnected with the city. In fact, you've said it yourself: it's like a spear throw away from the city, just like the other five/six tiny villages in the area. There are no wide open spaces in the Netherlands, except for the occasional agricultural fields and even those are negligibly small in comparison to what our neighbours boast.

    • @thijmstickman8349
      @thijmstickman8349 Рік тому +23

      He should have mentioned that the reason that it is this way is that the government had pretty strict urban growth boundries to make sure that the cities became dense instead of sprawling out, in order to preserve the very valuable farmland.

  • @CkBr
    @CkBr Рік тому +1962

    Most of the Netherlands isn't 'actually a giant city', and yet infrastructure outside of de Randstad, is still excellent. It isn't just the city aspect of the Netherlands that creates good infrastructure, its also government regulation. I feel like you should have at least mentioned that.

    • @opethium647
      @opethium647 Рік тому +18

      Man I wish that were the same case for Norway then. Infrastructure in northern Norway is nonexistent..

    • @DanDanDoe
      @DanDanDoe Рік тому +67

      Compared to many countries the Netherlands is still very dense. A Dutch urban planner once said something along the lines of: "We need to decide whether we live in one of the densest countries in the world, with our own food production, industry etcetera or we live in the greenest city state in the world, but have to import more goods." It's a somewhat different mindset and will influence what we do with things like agriculture and industry. We could add a lot of nature by taking away agricultural land, but that's less exports and will change rural communities.

    • @dutchman7623
      @dutchman7623 Рік тому +38

      @@DanDanDoe There is no nature in the Netherlands, every tree has been planted, every river is where we put it and we should see our country more like a city and some city park areas.
      Where we do not have highways we have intercity bicycle paths, separated from the mountain bike paths and of course the pedestrian paths for walkers. All planned, separated, with signs who can use them and when. Our 'nature' is man made, nothing natural about it, where we used the harvest peat, where we removed the forest, where we drained the water.
      And yes, we have to manage the environment, like our neighbors cannot just start a barbecue while we have our windows open. But this is control over social behavior, and has nothing to do with nature protection. We cannot protect what has been gone for more than 1000 years.

    • @arminmatthes
      @arminmatthes Рік тому +13

      Agreed. All I took away from this video is American arrogance and ignorance.

    • @HülyeLó
      @HülyeLó Рік тому +23

      @@arminmatthes these guys are Germans living in Amsterdam. Still, this video is entirely unnecessary. It's obvious they only made it to talk some shit about the Netherlands, but even they didn't find any valid points to do that. It's a shame because I liked their content so far

  • @5am646
    @5am646 9 місяців тому +29

    I cannot believe I didn't realise you were Dutch until you pronounced 'Randstad', your (American) accent is seriously impressive

    • @NXTI0
      @NXTI0 27 днів тому

      Same

    • @jwzm6115
      @jwzm6115 23 дні тому

      i think he is dutch... de manier hoe hij "Utrecht" zegt, dat kan geen amerikaan zo uitspreken zoals hij

    • @babs3872
      @babs3872 12 днів тому +2

      He's German

    • @5am646
      @5am646 11 днів тому +1

      @@babs3872 The channel information cleared up that he is in fact Dutch

  • @Alacernovum
    @Alacernovum Рік тому +21

    And even though the Randstad is pretty dense, go the het Groene Hart (the Green Heart) and you'll find towns and villages just like in the rest of the Netherlands, but right in the middle of the Randstad.
    We Dutch complain a lot about everything in our country, yet no one argues our planning skills.

    • @mother-fng-bonswa3612
      @mother-fng-bonswa3612 2 місяці тому

      be honest, its to bussy , it lost its charm. its all about making money

  • @tatyboy1337
    @tatyboy1337 Рік тому +1011

    The difference imo is that it is done so well - it's planned to be like this.
    England could have Manchester&Liverpool, Birmingham, Leeds, Bristol, and London connected in a similar way. but instead we have London and everything else.

    • @HermanWillems
      @HermanWillems Рік тому

      The City Of London is a country on it's own right? Own laws and things? Especially they got nice laws for White Collar Criminal things. (Well criminal in the eyes of EU and other NORMAL countries regarding Tax evasion.)

    • @miroslavbulldosex
      @miroslavbulldosex Рік тому +23

      london itself have more people than the randstad while being bigger in size, you don't understand the scales
      the randstad really is decently big city (smaller than london and Paris though) with the unique exception that it's multipolar because it's based on 4 smaller cities

    • @tatyboy1337
      @tatyboy1337 Рік тому +21

      @mr-dan-coleman yeah Scarborough-York-Leeds-Sheffield-Manchester-Liverpool-Blackpool (or similar) could be amazing with proper transport links (and less neglect of the seaside towns) but they're instead almost all commuter rail which doesnt run past 10pm :(
      heavily encourages drunk driving when someone comes to AO Arena (literally IN a train station) but the last train back to where they came from is 30 minutes before the end of the show...

    • @Tamarlane389
      @Tamarlane389 Рік тому +1

      @@tatyboy1337did you say ‘drunk driving’ is encouraged?

    • @Tamarlane389
      @Tamarlane389 Рік тому +3

      They will be more connected (well London, Birmingham and later Manchester) with HS2

  • @-haclong2366
    @-haclong2366 Рік тому +610

    N.Y.C. is actually a giant city, the Randstad isn't interconnected enough to be comparable. As someone who has lived in both I can see that N.Y.C. is actually a concrete jungle while the Randstad is the opposite of N.Y.C.
    While Central Park is the sole exception to the large urban landscape of New York, the high rise districts in the Randstad are the exceptions surrounded by lots of rural land. If you travel from The Hague to Leiden you'll find lots of farnland with cows.

    • @miroslavbulldosex
      @miroslavbulldosex Рік тому +74

      N.Y.C is either 8x denser or 2x bigger than the Randstad at the same density, the comparison was retarded to begin with
      The Randstad is a conurbation of 4 decently big cities while New York really is centered around Manhattan and its close area.
      The randstad is "like a city", but isn't contiguous enough to be one like other multipolar cities like tokyo

    • @TheLikeys
      @TheLikeys Рік тому +13

      @@miroslavbulldosexI think that’s also because of how cities and districts work in Europe. You rarely see multiple cities right next to each other (oc there some exemptions) but generally speaking it applies. Compare that to the us where often one city (thinking about the metropolitan regions) is just one block away from a totally different one.

    • @TheOriginalDogLP
      @TheOriginalDogLP Рік тому +2

      you have the same metropolitan regions in europe, and the us has also "single" cities, especially if you not looking at the coasts. Neither of those are unique concepts.

    • @AudieHolland
      @AudieHolland Рік тому +1

      *@-haclong2366* Spot on observation and analysis.
      I have lived in Utrecht for quite a few years and have travelled to Amsterdam by train on numerous occasions.

    • @mulethedonkey2579
      @mulethedonkey2579 Рік тому +1

      Still the country is denser overeall which lowers infastructure cost but Netherlands is big on agriculture

  • @Ninjaeule97
    @Ninjaeule97 Рік тому +707

    As someone who lives near Frankfurt and is currently staying in Helsinki (two metropolitan areas), I have to say this: Higher density leads to higher density if you let it. Real-life lore has a video series called Curious Population Patterns (Why x Country is y% empty). While geography plays into the makeup of a nation, there are limits to geographic determinism. The way people interact with geography is far more important. Places in the US could be much nicer if they hadn't decided on Euclidian zoning, but they did. Of course, high density leads to worse air quality if we continue to burn fossil fuels (or wood). That's not the fault of density that's caused by burning stuff. Having high density in some places and low density in the rest could actually make dealing with problems like Climate change easier. In the high-density areas, get rid of fossil fuel-powered vehicles and connect buildings to heat networks. Use the low-density regions to generate renewable energy and food to power the high-density ones.

    • @johnlastname8752
      @johnlastname8752 Рік тому +8

      Like a less horrific morlock system.

    • @marcoroberts9462
      @marcoroberts9462 Рік тому +15

      realest comment in the whole section

    • @Cawksawka
      @Cawksawka Рік тому +8

      I am also from Frankfurt/Glashütten and I have a friend from Kriftel who, like me, lives in Helsinki and I was 99% sure that you are him :D.

    • @Karim94222
      @Karim94222 Рік тому

      Sounds like communism, everything planned, no thanks, and perhaps Americans just like having more space for them, their family and house with a garden, which is totally understandable, and people living on the countryside dont want their whole landscapes being destroyed by stupid windmills which could just as easily be replaced with nuclear, which takes a lot less space, is more reliable and is not emitting CO2 either

    • @Ninjaeule97
      @Ninjaeule97 Рік тому +1

      @@johnlastname8752 what's a morlock system?

  • @AlRoderick
    @AlRoderick Рік тому +18

    Switzerland is in many ways completely the opposite of the Netherlands, but it is also a good place to live with good public transit and a high standard of living. So I clearly there's more than one answer and any individual region of the United States could probably figure out how to be more like one or the other. I live in Michigan and I always figured we'd have a better time trying to emulate Swiss urbanism than Dutch.

    • @user-ku1np8bs8n
      @user-ku1np8bs8n Рік тому +1

      This.

    • @swissarmyknife7670
      @swissarmyknife7670 Рік тому +3

      but we in switzerland are also living close together. we are less people than the netherlands but the actual inhabited area is also alot smaller. so we are infact even denser populated.

    • @WillemvanderPijl
      @WillemvanderPijl 2 місяці тому

      @@swissarmyknife7670 No the Netherlands has twice as many people per square KM

  • @m_a_e_x
    @m_a_e_x 10 місяців тому +17

    I love the blender shots. It's really nice to see the underlying software and to give others a little bit of understanding how this kind of video is produced.
    10/10 please add more random blender insights in your videos from now on.

  • @mariusfacktor3597
    @mariusfacktor3597 Рік тому +783

    The Netherlands is the #2 country in the world in food exports, behind the United States. A city can't do that. The Netherlands is small but has good land-use while most other countries have egregious land-use. That's why the Netherlands can offer amazing amenities and services.

    • @DGCNYO
      @DGCNYO Рік тому +10

      All flat....This is why u can and we can't

    • @AlejandroRamirez-le2vv
      @AlejandroRamirez-le2vv Рік тому +112

      ​@@DGCNYOif it was designed like the US it would all be suburban developments with huge freeways and interchanges

    • @Lucardini
      @Lucardini Рік тому +98

      Number #2 exporter, not #2 producer of food. We import most of those exports first. We are essentially a trade hub. (but yes we are also very efficient producers of food just not as much as that stat implies.)

    • @etr1182
      @etr1182 Рік тому +12

      @@DGCNYOthe land around NYC is all flat too

    • @opethium647
      @opethium647 Рік тому +19

      Norway is like 50% self sufficient in food, that with just 2.7% land that is actual agriculture land.

  • @xdmelone3333
    @xdmelone3333 Рік тому +410

    Build a city like New York the way Randstad is built then. The fact that Randstad is technecally an area with cities instead of a city with districts, doesn't change the fact that it is functionally the same. City infrastructure in many cities (for example the US) could be like Randstad instead of the way it currently is. Sure, connection between those cities is a different story that the Netherlands don't have, but that could probably be solved by high speed trains between the cities. For the minority living outside of these clusters, there can still be cars. Cars as main transportation inside cities and their direct surroundings is just ineffective and stupid.

    • @connorcrowley1
      @connorcrowley1 Рік тому +7

      Why? As a NYer and Dutchie living currently living in Den Haag, NYC transit urbanism with high density cities is much much much better urbanism than Dutch urbanism.

    • @teaser6089
      @teaser6089 Рік тому +27

      Indeed, the first step is understanding that designing your urban area's to be car friendly is shooting yourself in the foot.
      Cars are the enemy of the city, they make everything suck. Public transport and mixed zoning are what make Dutch Urbanism so successful, by allowing shops and jobs to be close to where people live, it reduces the amount of times people need to move large distances, and when they do, by offering a good alternative to the car, they might chose that instead of the car, which reduces load on the road network.

    • @teaser6089
      @teaser6089 Рік тому +29

      @@connorcrowley1 Disagree, Dutch Urbanism results in higher quality neighbourhoods, less traffic and happier citizens.

    • @connorcrowley1
      @connorcrowley1 Рік тому +6

      @@teaser6089 I agree that Dutch cities like Amsterdam are great templates for suburban level densities, but they are not urban densities.
      NYC has millions of people living in Amsterdam style neighborhoods in it's Brooklyn and queens suburbs. But if the goal of urbanism is density of minimizising car ownership, Manhattan style, transit dependent cities, have half the car ownership rate of Amsterdam.
      Street space allocation is not the entire subject of urbanism.

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  • @LinusKuehl
    @LinusKuehl Рік тому +311

    I'm not entirely sure what point you're trying to make here --- the Netherlands isn't the only dense place in the world. For instance, the comparison to New York State isn't an argument for why what's been done in the Netherlands can only be done there. New York is also densely populated.. so why couldn't similar infrastructure be built there?
    It also ignores that, even if a large area is not densely populated, cities very much still tend to be. Meaning that also in places that aren't densely populated, it doesn't mean that the cities and town in that place can't afford to build better infrastructure. Sure, you can attribute the Netherland's rail infrastructure to its large-scale density, but nobody is using their bike to go from Amsterdam to Enschede. So why couldn't any other city still do as good of a job building infrastructure for short-distance trips that don't leave the city?

    • @evandealy3493
      @evandealy3493 Рік тому +5

      It goes back to space and living preferences. NYC does have a metro. Lots of people in NY do walk to place. But that may as well be just Manhattan. The crown Jewel of NY gets all the attention. The other districts are just suburbs. When space is limited, you tend to build efficiently. When it's not a problem, you can build comfortably. Manhattan is an island. The rest are not (barring long island). If people have a choice, most would like to live in spacier homes. The Netherlands should be underwater so the space they gain is limited, hence the dense population and efficiency of their infrastructure.

    • @KajiRider1997
      @KajiRider1997 Рік тому

      So when you got more space you make it a car infested hellhole and parking lot wasteland? @@evandealy3493

    • @D3nn1s
      @D3nn1s Рік тому +10

      Im not sure either what theyre trying to accomplish. NYC has over 10k ppl/km² making the netherlands seem empty by comparison.
      I get the feeling theyre just trying to bash the us ans thats coming from a european and generally dislikes the american culture...

    • @thijmstickman8349
      @thijmstickman8349 Рік тому +41

      I agree, this video was really weirdly scripted and didn't seem to really have a point

    • @richardhouben7013
      @richardhouben7013 Рік тому

      new york was created by the netherlands

  • @mellon4251
    @mellon4251 Рік тому +62

    I recommend the video "The dumbest excuse for bad cities" from Not Just Bikes as a counterpoint to this video where he argues that almost every country has areas like the Netherlands, yet they arent nearly as well built for reason of bad infrastructure planning

    • @karolinakuc4783
      @karolinakuc4783 Рік тому +2

      True.

    • @Croz89
      @Croz89 Рік тому +2

      Consider that these countries cannot focus their infrastructure funding exclusively in these densely populated flat river valleys, and they usually have multiple flat river valleys separated by less ideal terrain. Imagine trying to tell your rural and low density suburban populations that you're slashing infrastructure funding for them and concentrating it into one or more high density city regions. It would clearly be politically untenable, any party trying such a thing would lose any support they had in those areas and would probably lose the next election. If the UK were to follow the Netherlands, whole swathes of the country, especially in Wales and Scotland, would have to be "sacrificed" in order to bring up infrastructure quality in London and the South East, maybe the West Midlands, the North West and Scottish Central Belt if they're lucky. Smaller cities too far away from larger ones would also have to be deprioritised.

    • @pmlb7715
      @pmlb7715 9 місяців тому +1

      A fact absent from those videos that put the Netherlands on a pedestal, is that the Netherlands has a unique geography which the locals learned to take advantage of. They have the luxury of living in a country without mountains or rocks, a country which they can mould and shape into whatever they want. No other country in Europe is like this.

    • @boscojwho
      @boscojwho 5 місяців тому

      This ought to be the top comment. A poorly done video that presents superficial arguments and kinda makes me question the quality of this channel’s other videos that I’ve watched.

  • @paprika1716
    @paprika1716 Рік тому +7

    Im confused, what was your point and the reasoning. Urk and Burk were there but your point is, that the netherlands is a giant city at the size of new york. Ok than why don't you just compare new York to the netherlands? Seems the right choice. Why are they still so different?

    • @cs0779533
      @cs0779533 2 місяці тому

      Yeah I don’t like that urk and burk thing. it killed the video for me. It does not fit.

  • @leonpaelinck
    @leonpaelinck Рік тому +116

    The netherlands may have similar amount of vehicles per capita than the rest of europe, but the amount of miles traveled are quite low. That's obviously thanks to the amazing bike infrastructure

    • @MegaBanane9
      @MegaBanane9 Рік тому +8

      And the average dutch household has one car, while the average american one has two.

    • @HermanWillems
      @HermanWillems Рік тому +9

      @@MegaBanane9 lol 1 car? Most families i know have at least 2. And maybe 3 or 4 when young adults still live at home.

    • @vocassen
      @vocassen Рік тому +29

      @@HermanWillems Tf? Even in germany it's rarely 3 or 4. 2 at most.
      Found a master thesis at TU Delft titled "Household car ownership in the netherlands" that said 50% of households own 1 car only (plus 15% that own none). Only 2-4% own 3 or more. That leaves ~30% that own 2 cars.
      Edit: You seem to equate household with families, which might be the source of your discrepancy. Not everyone is a family of 5

    • @jan-lukas
      @jan-lukas Рік тому +1

      Sadly I have to say that even some families in medium sized cities connected by excellent transit still sometimes have one car per person!

    • @udishomer5852
      @udishomer5852 Рік тому

      And the train infrastructure.

  • @zimne5212
    @zimne5212 Рік тому +11

    I strongly disagree with the premise of the video. New Jerseys is just as dense as the Netherlands. Cars first is just shitty city design. Everywhere.

  • @thijmstickman8349
    @thijmstickman8349 Рік тому +172

    You should have mentioned that the reason that it is this way is that the government had pretty strict urban growth boundries to make sure that the cities became dense instead of sprawling out, in order to preserve the very valuable farmland. The Randstad isn't one big city, because in between the cities is the green heart, which is basically just farmland

    • @idromano
      @idromano Рік тому +1

      Thank you for this info! I had this hypothesis from watching YT videos and checking out Google Maps, but I never confirmed it. If possible, would you kindly point me towards sources that say more about this? It'd be great for a research I'm doing. Anything would be appreciated.

    • @thijmstickman8349
      @thijmstickman8349 Рік тому +7

      @@idromano I get this info mostly from what I learned in my dutch high school geography classes, so I honestly dont have a siteable source. If you know dutch the words you want to research are "ruimtelijke ordening" translating to spacial planning. There are books about the history of dutch spaical planning, but I'm afraid I haven't read them.
      If you want to know anything specific about the Netherlands in terms of land use and statistics check out the edugis map, it has basically every statistic about every place in the Netherlands. If you just want to know more holistic information about the netherlands wikipedia does a pretty good job

    • @erikthehalfabee6234
      @erikthehalfabee6234 Рік тому

      The green heart is farmland, small towns, lots of lakes and rivers.

    • @thijmstickman8349
      @thijmstickman8349 10 місяців тому

      @@idromano I got a bunch of likes, so I was notified of this comment again. I'm now studying architecture and urbanism at TU delft and we had to read the boopk URBANISM by Han Meyer, MaartenJan Hoeksta and John Westrik. It contains tonnes of information on the topic if you still need to research what you were researching. The book is pricey though.

    • @TheSuperappelflap
      @TheSuperappelflap 8 місяців тому

      In theory, that is the case. In practice you can now drive from Rotterdam to the Hague through one big suburb. In fact you can then drive on to Zoetermeer through more suburbs. Rijswijk, Ypenburg. I went for a 20km bike ride recently along this route and didnt see any farmland. Just one park and a golf course.
      There are tons of houses being built. Barely any greenhouses or grassland left. Cities like Zoetermeer, Gouda, Alphen etc in the green area between the cities are ever expanding. And along the highways, new business parks and massive distribution centers are being built at a crazy pace. In a few decades there wont be any green left, especially with the government now threatening to change the law so they can force farmers to sell their land.
      Ostensibly this is because of the environment, but its obvious they are just going to selll the land they seize to housing project developers. Thats where the money is.

  • @lukaz078
    @lukaz078 Рік тому +7

    The shock I experienced when I found out you were dutch by your great pronounciation of the Randstad lol

  • @ihakker1416
    @ihakker1416 7 місяців тому +2

    What's worth mentioning, is that the urban area of the netherlands even extends across borders into Flanders, the northern half of Belgium.
    Especially now with the EU, the currency is the same, the language is the same, there is no "real" border when driving (just a sign, no checkpoint or anything), biking infrastructure is good in major flemish cities etc..
    Also Netherlands is listed as densest population in Europe at 522, Belgium is already second at 386, but when you only take the northern more densily populated Dutch speaking part of belgium (Flanders), it is 488/km2, close to the Netherlands' 522. And that is excluding Brussels (which is surrounded by flanders, Brussels + Flanders has a higher density than the Netherlands. It's just the low-density southern French speaking half of Belgium, bordering France and Germany with large stretches of empty land and nature in the Ardennes forest that drag the average down for Belgium.

  • @youtubesresidentfbiagent8735
    @youtubesresidentfbiagent8735 Рік тому +63

    Hoog has sneakily infiltrated this channel with more Dutch content

    • @brodoxl
      @brodoxl Рік тому +9

      and i dont mind

    • @zekiz774
      @zekiz774 Рік тому +4

      Well... David and Jonas also live in the Netherlands

  • @elismart13
    @elismart13 Рік тому +18

    😂6:46 BRO HAS ME DED in the middle of one of these type of videos, pls never stop doing these "funny bits", channels seem to stop doing anything like this when they "get big"

    • @Idkpleasejustletmechangeit
      @Idkpleasejustletmechangeit Рік тому +1

      It's a joint venture from a channel with over 300k and one with over one million subscribers, so I don't think they'll stop doing this.

    • @elismart13
      @elismart13 Рік тому +3

      @@Idkpleasejustletmechangeit ik that by "get big" i obvs mean average views per video increasing a lot

  • @ECTCalvin
    @ECTCalvin Рік тому +50

    I think the ruhrgebiet is very comparable to the Randstad. Might make for an interesting comparison

  • @evihippogrief772
    @evihippogrief772 11 місяців тому +2

    In all honesty, you just say Randstad is one giant city and the rest is unimportant for your statement. To be clear here: Randstad is not the entirety of the Netherlands. I would've agreed to your statement if you changed 'The Netherlands" to "Randstad"

  • @dond3r183
    @dond3r183 Рік тому +6

    0:24 Funny fact is, that New York was founded by the Dutch. Plus New Netherlands was a 17th-century colonial province of the Dutch Republic located on the east coast of what is now the United States, including New York (New Amsterdam).

  • @udishomer5852
    @udishomer5852 Рік тому +91

    This pattern of large dense urban areas is common in many countries, yet the Netherlands stands out with its exceptional infrastructure, urban planning and land use.
    This video is either meant to make Americans feel better about themselves, or to create controversy (which improve viewership and engagement).

    • @Simon-zan
      @Simon-zan Рік тому +4

      Totally right

    • @pontiuspilates
      @pontiuspilates Рік тому +4

      Oh yes. Another good example would be Ruhr-Rhein or Silesia. I guess stereotypical American ignorance is a real thing, sadly.

    • @chigchong2805
      @chigchong2805 11 місяців тому

      bro no. a lot of countries are incapable of doing this. and im saying as a dutchie. STILL NETHERLAND NR !

    • @therealspeedwagon1451
      @therealspeedwagon1451 3 місяці тому

      But what makes the Netherlands so special is its massive urban area compared to the rest of the very rural country. 20% land area for one mega city for such a tiny country is insane. Rndstad is about the size of London, New York, or Tokyo. And for a country that isn’t anywhere near as economically or militarily as powerful as America, the UK, or Japan. Imagine if there was an entire US state that was just one massive mega city. Not just one with a mega city, there’s already plenty of those, but one where the whole state *is* a city. That’s how insane Rndstad is.

    • @brianlbeck
      @brianlbeck 3 місяці тому

      @@therealspeedwagon1451 terrible analogy but I'm sure it was the best you could do

  • @oyungogdfrust4136
    @oyungogdfrust4136 Рік тому +34

    "the netherlands has advantages that make it easier to build their cities" is not an excuse. start with new york, la, wherever you're going to. you can still make a dutch city there and dutch infastructure there, then another place, then another place until your entire country is built like the dutch. easy process? no! improved life quality? yes.
    also please dont do urk and buruk again, you dont have to do caveman speak like you're talking as urk and buruk. you can just explain the process in a normal tone that respects people's intelligence.

    • @FirestoneGod
      @FirestoneGod Рік тому +2

      I don't know about you, but I thought it was absolutely hilarious! 🤣

    • @oyungogdfrust4136
      @oyungogdfrust4136 Рік тому +7

      @@FirestoneGod it was funny for like 1 minute then it started to feel like baby-talking. i have no problem with like a joke segment like this but it turned into half the video.

    • @AnastasiosTsarouchas
      @AnastasiosTsarouchas Рік тому +1

      Yeah and although he is an excellent video creator, really really stellar, he is not usually inserting jokes in videos. I had the uneasy feeling that maybe it wasn’t supposed to be funny xD

  • @nikkizi.
    @nikkizi. Рік тому +80

    I'm not just saying I want it -
    I urgently NEED a whole "Urk and Buruk" spinoff series! 🔥 With episodes like
    "Urk and Buruk Going On Holiday,"
    "Urk and Buruk's Climate Change Calamity,"
    or "Urk and Buruk vs. The 'Totally Sane' North Korean Dictatorship"!

    • @maximianocoelho4496
      @maximianocoelho4496 Рік тому +10

      Damn, I was about to say something similar, as soon as I saw the Urk and Buruk narrative going for more than 30seconds, I said, this is getting out of hand.

    • @robinvonken9975
      @robinvonken9975 Рік тому +2

      This would be gold!

    • @thymen3431
      @thymen3431 Рік тому +3

      We need Urk and Buruk, connecting to mainland. (look up urk)

    • @__-fu5se
      @__-fu5se 7 місяців тому

      Frankly I was about done after 10 seconds of it.

  • @redcrafterlppa303
    @redcrafterlppa303 Рік тому +7

    My takeaway is that the US is not building dense because it has lots of land but then wonders why everything is so far away and difficult to reach and connect.
    Giant suburbs that waste tons of space and time is just not a viable option fir living. Either you live in a low density town or in a dense city. Something in between just doesn't work and the us proved it. The Netherlands proved that dense cities can have good transport and can be built for bikes and walking. Something the US didn't manage to do in their cities.

    • @AMERICANROYALFAMILYDESCENDANTS
      @AMERICANROYALFAMILYDESCENDANTS 4 місяці тому

      The united states citizens want land and privacy...thats why we own our acreage far out from the cities. We do not like the big cities necessarily because of over crowdedness and lots of crime. If you are not an American you will not understand us. We can grow our own food on our lands. We like it that way.

    • @redcrafterlppa303
      @redcrafterlppa303 4 місяці тому +1

      @@AMERICANROYALFAMILYDESCENDANTS be honest most Americans don't grow food in their suburb garden. Also the crime of the downtown is a result of American city planing. In Europe most cities have way less crime then in America.

  • @yakamurachenabacar5774
    @yakamurachenabacar5774 Рік тому +4

    00:43 bruh 💀💀💀

  • @knpark2025
    @knpark2025 Рік тому +143

    I can understand the premise of this video by my instinct: Seoul and its surrounding provinces combined is home to more than three times the population of the New York City Metro area, within a landmass one-third of NYC metro's landmass.This so-called "Sudogwon"(Seoul Capital Area) accounts for 12% of South Korea's landmass yet has more people living in it than the rest of South Korea combined. It makes South Korea a "Sudogwon versus everyone else" country, too, with the population density slightly higher than the Netherlands. I suspect this "core versus everywhere else" dynamic you've explained in this video could be found on many compact, densly populated countries other than the Netherlands and South Korea as well, one famous example being the Japanese Kanto (Tokyo et al.).

    • @schtormm
      @schtormm Рік тому +6

      This is definitely a thing here too in voting; voters from the perifery don't like "those havercappucino drinking Randstaders" and vice versa

    • @karinneeskens
      @karinneeskens Рік тому +2

      Same with budapest in hungary

    • @longiusaescius2537
      @longiusaescius2537 Рік тому

      Yeah

    • @longiusaescius2537
      @longiusaescius2537 Рік тому

      @karinneeskens great country, have excellent friends from there

    • @artimist0315
      @artimist0315 Рік тому +1

      But doesn't South Korea has other major cities like Busan that aren't in it ?
      As for Japan, I don't really get the comparison, Japan is a country with multiple agglomerations, just like any country. Sure the Tokyo-Yokohama-Chiba agglomeration can be compared to the ranstad, but the whole country has a much more even repartition of population with other agglomeration like Osaka, Fukuoka, Sapporo, Nagoya, ... while the Netherlands only have the ranstad.

  • @rohansaxena4751
    @rohansaxena4751 Рік тому +13

    3:57 having been to Utrecht the city only does universities well 🤣 and ig the Dom cathedral too 😂
    Also fun fact if you climb to the top of dom tower you can practically see all the the other 3 major cities 😂

  • @azarine
    @azarine Рік тому +330

    The time and effort put into these videos is something else - you’re revolutionizing the docu-space on UA-cam with your videos.

    • @Wonder1613
      @Wonder1613 Рік тому +1

      give tips for blitz

    • @ElliotJokelson
      @ElliotJokelson Рік тому +3

      How so? 😂

    • @Kromiball
      @Kromiball Рік тому +3

      He stalked and kidnapped two German UA-camrs to make this channel

    • @GoJays
      @GoJays Рік тому

      Ya it's very challenging to search google

    • @kingchicken8232
      @kingchicken8232 Рік тому +2

      I don’t even think he knew what this one was about 😂

  • @joshswenk1967
    @joshswenk1967 Рік тому +2

    5:37 uga booga explanation is top tier

  • @KaspersMC
    @KaspersMC Рік тому +3

    Hey what programs do you use for all your Animation ? : )
    thanks for your very well explained Video : ) thanks

  • @ruizvz9445
    @ruizvz9445 Рік тому +150

    Utrecht is centred in the middle of our country, which makes it a city that is used for many events during the year but also transporting people between the randstad and other parts of the country via Utrecht Central Station.

    • @134343
      @134343 Рік тому +63

      Found the Utrechter

    • @HermanWillems
      @HermanWillems Рік тому

      But that's it. For the rest its a boring useless city.

    • @ysbrandd
      @ysbrandd Рік тому +6

      well Amersfoort is more central, and the very small place of putten is the exact middle so this point is kinda invalidated. It really is only that the seat of a bishop used to be there which meant he got wealth funneling in during the middle ages, cities will try to become useful or they die out. Utrecht managed to do it by having a university and corporate life outside of Amsterdam.
      And yes Amersfoort is way more central, the original plan for Amsterdam to be a better port city would've been by connecting Amersfoort to the Rhine, then sailing up the Rhine and Eem to the zuiderzee and from there to Amsterdam.

    • @lichtsprecher
      @lichtsprecher Рік тому +6

      My only memories of Utrecht are the train delays

    • @andrewmiller407
      @andrewmiller407 Рік тому +3

      So it's the Netherlands' Indianapolis.

  • @ErnestasMage
    @ErnestasMage Рік тому +135

    The comedy and educational content is why I love channels like fern.

    • @anderson._.._.8801
      @anderson._.._.8801 Рік тому

      It's just simplicissimus In English

    • @darkii4978
      @darkii4978 Рік тому +3

      @@anderson._.._.8801 No it's the humour from both Hoog and Simpli.

    • @Idkpleasejustletmechangeit
      @Idkpleasejustletmechangeit Рік тому

      @@anderson._.._.8801 Simplicissimus is a lot more serious than this. They have their main channel(also in German) for the comedy and use their little side channel for the serious stuff.

    • @anderson._.._.8801
      @anderson._.._.8801 Рік тому +1

      @@darkii4978 right I forgot hoog

    • @ErnestasMage
      @ErnestasMage Рік тому +2

      @@anderson._.._.8801 Yeah, they made this channel together with hoog. Sadly I don't watch Simpli since I don't speak German.

  • @octaviansandu218
    @octaviansandu218 Рік тому +38

    You should make a video about the booming economy of Eindhoven (basically home of ASML, Philips etc), it's always lost in the discussions about the Netherlands and the Randstad, but it's quite impressive for a small city, poised to become a huge tech hub in the coming decades, projected to add 70.000 new tech jobs by the end of the decade in a city of only 300.000. Keep up the good content, really like it!

    • @lynxloco
      @lynxloco Рік тому +4

      Yeah agreed, it's more impressive than the randstad.

    • @guususus
      @guususus Рік тому +7

      Agreed, it’s always forgotten when you talk about the four mayor cities. When in fact Eindhoven has been arguably more important for the world than Utrecht for example.

    • @tesoulx
      @tesoulx Рік тому +3

      ASML is in Veldhoven. Well, Eindhoven, Veldhoven, Helmond, Nuenen, Geldrop is like a Techstad or mini Randstad

    • @maiskorrel
      @maiskorrel Рік тому +1

      Eindhovuuuuhh

    • @iyt6407
      @iyt6407 4 місяці тому

      Yes brabant also has high density with Den Bosch, Breda, Tilburg and Eindhoven all within 50 km radius.

  • @seustaceRotterdam
    @seustaceRotterdam Рік тому +1

    This title is misleading, there is a lot of farmland especially outside the Randstad, think of Groningen, Brabant and Limburg. Even within the Randstad there is plenty of green. Your fancy animations are one thing but The Netherlands is not a “big city”

  • @christophermarshall4080
    @christophermarshall4080 8 місяців тому +3

    So, basically: The Netherlands is built different

  • @shitpostgrotto2982
    @shitpostgrotto2982 Рік тому +61

    The New York urban area has a population either similar or greater than the Netherlands, on either less or roughly equal land area (depending on where you draw the borders of the urban area). Even just the urban centre of NYC definitely has the density of people to afford plenty of public works. Yet we have better infrastructure and public services in small Dutch towns than the biggest city in the US. The urban centre of NYC is also in a river delta, nice and flat, though like the Netherlands that brings problems of its own. Still, we see a difference.
    We can't compare what is rural in the Netherlands to what is rural in the US. The US has vast stretches of essentially 'people deserts' whereas in the Netherlands you can't get further than a couple kilometres from some sort of civilisation unless you go out to sea. Still, we can compare urban areas. Economies of scale exist in both places and we find that the Netherlands does infrastructure, among other things, better than the US. It's not an apples and oranges story at all. The Netherlands might have some innate advantages, but nothing that other US cities don't also have.
    The difference is one of urban design. American cities sprawl instead of trying to densify. Land is cheap and it's less hassle to build on unused land. The Netherlands doesn't have this luxury, all land is valuable, expecially because most of it is also arable. There's probably a farmer on that land who's not too eager to sell it to you. So, you build inwards, and make every square metre count. America has built its cities for the car. American cities used to resemble European ones a lot more before the 40's, they were densely built and trams and streetcars were commonplace. They bulldozed those cities to make way for highways. The old cities had no space for cars, so space was made. In doing so American cities entered a feedback loop where they get more and more reliant on cars, pushing out other options.
    There's reasons why the Netherlands is different than the US. This video makes a valid point but I feel it ignores the much more influential differences. Geography does determine some things, but a head start isn't a reason for why one of the most resource rich, wealthiest, most advanced countries on the world can't run more buses in their cities, or make them more walkable, or put some bike lanes amongst all that asphalt.

    • @duaneeitzen1025
      @duaneeitzen1025 Рік тому +10

      Apples and Oranges. NY and NL. I see what you did there 😊

  • @Anonymous-sb9rr
    @Anonymous-sb9rr Рік тому +26

    The German state of North Rhine-Westphalia is similar. It has about the same population, same density, it's also connected by rivers and canals and it has a central conurbation the same size as the Randstad. The north of England also has a lot of big cities close together,

    • @udishomer5852
      @udishomer5852 Рік тому +2

      This pattern is common in many countries, yet the Netherlands stands out with its exceptional infrastructure, urban planning and land use.
      This video is either meant to make Americans feel better about themselves, or to create controversy (which improve viewership and engagement).

    • @katii1997
      @katii1997 Рік тому +4

      @@udishomer5852 i didn't understand anyhting that he said in the video... and why all of the things he said would mean that the netherlands "is just a giant city".
      is the video supposed to be positive or negative ?
      why is that supposed to make the US feel better about themselves ?
      I'm confuessed.

  • @brodoxl
    @brodoxl Рік тому +37

    You do have the green heart in the center of the Randstad, which is filled with only green fields and small villages, so if you wouldn't count that as Randstad, the population density would be ever higher.

    • @connorcrowley1
      @connorcrowley1 Рік тому +3

      The densest parts of the country are not dense at all. It is one giant suburban new Jersey with better laid out roads and lacking super dense places like jersey city.

    • @vocassen
      @vocassen Рік тому +7

      @@connorcrowley1 No matter, we don't want high-rises and still have car roads between them, instead urban centers in the netherlands are walkable and more lively, without cars. And there's more of them, spread throughout. Makes for a much nicer experience. Density alone is not the goal of anyone really. And if you do want to see good dense cities, I wouldn't look at USA, but at Japan and other Asian countries.

    • @connorcrowley1
      @connorcrowley1 Рік тому

      @@vocassen I am Dutch and American living in NL.
      Having lived in both NYC and Randstad multiple times, NYC is much more vibrant than any place in NL.
      Density is the goal.

    • @vocassen
      @vocassen Рік тому +5

      @@connorcrowley1 Idk from what I see from NYC rn, apart from a few centers throughout, most seems pretty nasty to me. Too much cars, businesses are leaving, despite all that density.
      Density is good as long as you still have walkable neighbourhoods.
      NL achieves that by limiting cars, and it's doing well.
      German cities are not so great, medium density but also quite a lot of cars.
      Lived in Osaka for a few months, they did it really well as well, not a whole lot of cars and instead quite a lot of walkable, dense areas.
      It's not density I dislike. I like density. When it's walkable and lively.
      NYC, IMO, fails at that. With that density and most everybody still relying on a car (or suboptimal public transit), it's not a city I have a good impression of, sorry. Ofc I only see that through videos, so your mileage may vary.

    • @Abrothers12
      @Abrothers12 Рік тому +1

      ⁠@@connorcrowley1not everybody wants somewhere super busy and vibrant, though. I agree that NYC’s energy is unmatched in Europe, but there are certainly a few sides to the argument

  • @blankvirtue
    @blankvirtue Місяць тому +1

    Hi I´m Dutch (and for the people who don´t know, The Dutch come from the Netherlands and yes we are NOT Deutsch. They are Germans yes from Germany.) Recently we reached 18.000.000 million souls in a country the size of a post stamp. If there are still people who even know wat that is.
    Even as a young man people spoke about that they had been in the woods. I thought then, were you abroard?
    In my opinion the woods are a place where you can get lost. Literally. Like in Canada.
    All of the problems of this day and age, Pollution, environmental issue's, living space, traffic, overcrowded places are quite commen. I dare say magnified here in this small country. And still nobody talks about ik . They think that wealth is to be prefered over well being. So let's bring them all in. Ukrainians, (who say they will leave once there is peace in Ukaine) (North)Africans, Polish, Bulgarians, Syriains, Turks, and of course there are our own boneheads who make baby's like rabbits. Juistifing everthing in name of the economy. And the problems concerning the elderly. Becomming a too large group to support.
    Becomming a country with very little space with very, very, very much people means you have to get organized. Pounding everything into rules, laws, and regulations , otherwise anarchy is lurking. (As we have seen recently here with the biggest criminal organization ....The farmers...
    So there you have it. It is obvious that nature and well being...is the victim of this system. It's sad to see that this eventually will happen to other places the whole world. My advice is STOP MAKING BABY'S AND SAVE THE WORLD.

  • @Highly-grounded
    @Highly-grounded Місяць тому +2

    We just built different fr🔥🔥🔥🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱

  • @rodrigosouto9502
    @rodrigosouto9502 Рік тому +7

    So New York should be as good as the Netherlands. Yet it is very far from them in terms of infrastructure.

  • @Jgvcfguy
    @Jgvcfguy Рік тому +19

    North West England has a bit of a Randstad thing going on. There are about 6-7 million people in an area about the size of the Randstad. It has a terrible and underfunded train system though. If it had anywhere near the same level of public transport funding as London It could become a much more productive region.

    • @mellon4251
      @mellon4251 Рік тому +3

      I agree, poor arguments in the video as if the Netherlands where such an exception. Germany has it too, with the Rhein-Ruhr-valley, the entire US East coast, even Canada with Ontario and Quebec's southern area.

    • @Croz89
      @Croz89 Рік тому +1

      One of the problems with the North West is the terrain around these cities is not like the Netherlands, as soon as you get out of the city you often get 300m+ hills which means connecting them is more difficult, and quite a lot of people live in these satellite towns around Manchester and Liverpool that are at different elevations. That makes it more difficult to build train lines, though in many cases they do exist thanks to the Victorian era railway boom they're usually not as high quality. Walking and Cycling is not as easy on often windy hilly paths even with e-bikes and the cool, wet climate doesn't help. Not to say things can't be improved, I personally think Manchester and Liverpool could do with better urban transit, even better than what many Dutch cities have, but the different environment means a copy paste job isn't going to work.

    • @chigchong2805
      @chigchong2805 11 місяців тому

      @@mellon4251 yes but with less core infrastructure and less good yields

  • @jonashannes3793
    @jonashannes3793 Рік тому +8

    5:54 dafug was that

  • @willem531
    @willem531 Рік тому +1

    A quick Google search shows that New York has a population density of 11k per KM² where de randstad has 740 people per km². While the density of New York may be exceptional I think it's fair to say other major cities in the US are similar and yet they're all designed like garbage. You don't need to make the entirity of the US like the Netherlands, just the major cities. Then you connect the cities and boom, much better, more liveable country.
    I should point out I'm not trying to criticize everything, I think you make some fair points, it just sounds like you're trying to justify how poorly American (or other) cities are built.

  • @daang7721
    @daang7721 Рік тому +1

    This video lacks many very important points. For example, the Randstad is more than just cities (also lots of agricultural land inbetween), and Dutch landscapes and cities are totally different from American. Also, there are many urban regions outside of the Randstad as well (e.g. Tilburg/Breda, Eindhoven/Helmond, Enschede/Almelo). Additionally, you cannot say so easily that densely populated areas lead to benefits (why are many people from India so poor?). There are just way more reasons why many things go well here, and on the other hand obviously not everything goes so well (e.g. the nitrogen crisis)

  • @crunchynut2559
    @crunchynut2559 Рік тому +10

    the urk part killed me

    • @Toph95
      @Toph95 Рік тому

      for real i had to skip it lol

    • @Belathane
      @Belathane Рік тому

      Urk's secret is he's always angry.

  • @maximianocoelho4496
    @maximianocoelho4496 Рік тому +41

    I was resisting commenting before seeing the video, but I am saving my space.
    Finished the video
    So, what I can take from the video is, that there are many countries, with many shapes and sizes, for what it looks the small countries have an ease of organising, combining, and managing the workforce than bigger countries, so the dutch system works in a very small bubble of possibilities, the dutch system is so unique that it requires a read in some material that I need to get my hands on. As an environmental engineer (almost) I feel like Netherlands is the birth place of my trade, the right combination of land and society management striving for better quality of living. I think if I approach the idea that each country is an unique case and they require there own system, I can arrive to the conclusion that each country can be organised in a system that better reflect landscape
    esources\culture.

    • @ElliotJokelson
      @ElliotJokelson Рік тому

      He misses a big part of The Netherlands success; navigable waterways.

    • @maximianocoelho4496
      @maximianocoelho4496 Рік тому

      @@ElliotJokelson he mentioned briefly the advantage of navigability, just didnt go in depth...to be honest, the aspects that make the dutch successful are many, and u can make a full serie explaining each, or make a 3 hour video.

    • @ElliotJokelson
      @ElliotJokelson Рік тому

      @@maximianocoelho4496 The modern Dutch thrived under globalism there is no doubt but now that it’s finished they will experience a step decline.🤷🏻‍♂️
      Good thing they built all that stuff while they could because going forward the capital and labor won’t be available. #shittydemographics

  • @Jorge_Pronto
    @Jorge_Pronto Рік тому +10

    7:30 this is actually not true. The reason soil fertility is so high is because the massive overuse of fertilizer, which in turn is a great contributor to the NOx problem (NL is the #1 NOx emitter per capita of the world). Naturally, the soil here has not been useful for farming grounds for centuries as the swamplands ("veen") were depleted of natural resources centuries ago.

    • @fern-tv
      @fern-tv  Рік тому +8

      It's both. Fertilizers are a big part of it (we'll leave that for an entirely different video), but the sea and rivers also played a significant part. edepot.wur.nl/282212 - Elmer

    • @ChristiaanHW
      @ChristiaanHW Рік тому +1

      A better way of determining the use of fertilizer is how much per kg of any given product produced on that land.
      So if The Netherlands produces 2x as much kg of tomatos with the same amount of fertilizer they are actually more efficient. (I don't know the real numbers, this is just an example)
      Fetrilizer per capita is a bit of a weird way to rank fertilizer use.

    • @Jorge_Pronto
      @Jorge_Pronto Рік тому

      @@ChristiaanHW I can follow your argumentation but it lacks taking account of the side effects such as polution. Yes, using massive amounts of fertilizer increases crop yields by a significant margin but it causes all types of (almost irreparable) damages. There is a new (Dutch) book called "Uit de sh*t" which explains the biology behind fertilizer (over) use.

  • @FreddyFazbearFNAF
    @FreddyFazbearFNAF 2 місяці тому +1

    as someone who lives in a small village in Drenthe (dutch province) it's mostly just fields and farmland. But the Randstad is just WAY too crowded, i think people should be moving to the east and north. Because Amsterdam and Rotterdam is just overated.

  • @_roonie
    @_roonie Рік тому +1

    As a dutchman myself i can say you pronounce the city’s too well to not be dutch aswell 😂. (or german)

  • @24THOMAS241
    @24THOMAS241 Рік тому +23

    I get your point, but if population density is major factor for the infrastructure, this is kind of misleading as most major cities in the US have a population density similar to Amsterdam or larger.
    And if you travel through the randstad it’s much more like a spread out village, nothing comparable to NY city

  • @sjeese4666
    @sjeese4666 Рік тому +24

    The reason why NOx emissions in the netherlands is high, is because we have a LOT of farming going on which emits a lot. However it is much more efficient than farms in other countries (meaning that per kg of crop, we emit less and use less water than other countries

    • @paxundpeace9970
      @paxundpeace9970 Рік тому

      Thought about that too not only just farming but farming for flowers and vegetables which make it even more polluting with a lot of Chemicals and Pesticides and fertilizer used in addition a lot of farming is done for lifestock.

    • @DanDanDoe
      @DanDanDoe Рік тому +1

      Important to note that of the farming, a lot is livestock. The Netherlands exports a lot of meat and dairy to the rest of Europe. Also lots of greenhouses, though I'd say the efficiency of those is debatable. I even saw Dutch tomatoes in Italian supermarkets this summer. So we export tomatoes to countries that can and do grow tomatoes.

    • @ReezMediaOfficial
      @ReezMediaOfficial Рік тому +3

      Stikstofdioxides komen niet van landbouw, dat kan alleen van verbrandingsmotoren komen. Het stikstof dat in de natuur voorkomt en in de landbouw wordt gebruikt is heel wat anders qua molecuulstructuren.

  • @udishomer5852
    @udishomer5852 Рік тому +6

    I live in a giant city, of between 15-25 million people, depending where you draw the line (Metro Manila, glad you asked). And it is nothing like the Netherlands....
    Also, New York City, probably the best designed Metro area in the USA, is also not as good as the Netherlands in terms of public transportation, walkability and cyclability.

    • @jbird4478
      @jbird4478 Рік тому

      And yet NYC has a density roughly 20 times that of the Netherlands. I guess his entire argument is out the window now.

  • @drumpuppy2000
    @drumpuppy2000 Рік тому +1

    The key thing that seems to be missed here is that 80% of Americans also live in cities and these cities (with nyc being the only real exception) still have shitty infrastructure even Houston which is one of the least dense crappy US cities at 1400 people per km2 is denser than the randstad. So yeah expecting all American citizens to have Dutch class infrastructure is unrealistic but to expect 80% of Americans to have what 93% of Dutch people have is very much possible but far from actually happening. So stop coping and start building.

  • @Aitmesss
    @Aitmesss 9 місяців тому +1

    Nice arguments and vid for youtube time wasted.. it doesn't matter how big a land or city is. Its ways you approach the peoples way of transportation while improving their way and means for living a good lives. Moving people between 5-15km by bike is a thing that you must recognize as economically necessary or healthy in order to build for it. These are the distancesses and reasons that for the base reasons to do so. Then, the totally incorporating the many other infrastructure transits makes it a good start. Because no one takes his bike to work for 40-60km,s. So stop that argument.

  • @iea96
    @iea96 Рік тому +5

    RIP Urk and Buruk.

  • @randomviewer3494
    @randomviewer3494 Рік тому +4

    Have you ever been outside of the randstad? XD tell me where in new york I can find massive open fields like where cows graze over here.

  • @infini.tesimo
    @infini.tesimo Рік тому +28

    Can I just say that your content genuinely stands out as far as aesthetic production? The bright green logo isn't just the reason, the videos truly look extremely high quality and completely hand made in every facet of it. It's not just cinematic in presentation but an elevated version of it. It's what should be the standard for online info-tainment video content. Bravo. 👍🏼

  • @Whalefire2
    @Whalefire2 7 місяців тому +1

    Having a barbarian caveman who's children all, presumably, intermarry called Urk is the most Dutch joke I can imagine and I'm sorry for all the non-Dutch who simply saw a funny caveman story.

  • @Zwei-Rosen
    @Zwei-Rosen 10 місяців тому +1

    The community has to implement regulations and invest in infrastructure, which follows a general strategy to serve not only the particular desires but - above that - the common interests and benefits. If you compare the Ruhr area in Germany right in the neighbourhood of the Randstad, you'll see: while topography, population density, transportation networks and the multi-cities-cluster structures aren't very different, the results couldn't be more different. Due to the fact that in the Ruhr area, though it is the biggest metropolitan region in Germany, the regional assembly and council aren't entitled to general infrastructure planning and coordination, resulting in every mayor having their own pet projects with the usual problems regarding interconnectivity and loss of synergies.

  • @CrownRider
    @CrownRider Рік тому +19

    Decades ago we came to the same conclusion. The Netherlands is a big city with giant parcs and huge suburbs and party islands.
    It is in economic competition with the Ruhr area and the Antwerp/Bruxelles area. Zooming out these areas fuse together. Spreading to northern Italy and the south of England you see what is called the Blue Banana.

    • @DalaiDrama-hp6oj
      @DalaiDrama-hp6oj Рік тому +2

      And now there somehow grew a Brexit wall inside this Banana

    • @jbird4478
      @jbird4478 Рік тому +5

      Yeah, yeah... and if you zoom out even more and squeeze your eyelids together you see the Eastern Atlantic Metropolitan Area stretching all the way to Moscow.

  • @GoldenRuben1
    @GoldenRuben1 Рік тому +14

    I, as a Dutchman, can confirm. that we are very densely populated. But calling the Netherlands a big city is a bit of an exaggeration.
    But otherwise a good explanation about the Netherlands!

    • @connorcrowley1
      @connorcrowley1 Рік тому

      We have fewer people living here than the NYC metro area. We are somewhere between a city state and a real country.
      We only have pathetically small "cities."

    • @ChuckThree
      @ChuckThree Рік тому

      Depends on how you define a city (Netherlands population 17,618,259 and density = 522/km2) …
      • Jacksonville, Florida USA; 11th highest population city in US at 971,319; population density = 491/km2
      • Nashville, Tennessee USA; 21st highest population city in the US at 683,622; population density = 559/km2

  • @toniderdon
    @toniderdon Рік тому +7

    But still: You have to manage that wealth and keep it inside the dense areas. Look at NY for example. NY has more money than the Netherlands (per capita), yet their infrastructure is absolute shit because most of their income tax goes to the federal government which then spends it in other areas, but not only in NY. It is not only about how much money you get, it is about how well you spend it.

  • @Normal_user_coniven
    @Normal_user_coniven Рік тому +1

    Not intersting. Kuwait and UAE are similar to this situation, and we still don't count them as countries made of one large city.
    Large cities as one country are more like Luxemburg, Bahrain and Qatar. While Singapore is less than one city, but actaully the island half of Johor Bahro city.

  • @octaviomarcelovigooneto5430
    @octaviomarcelovigooneto5430 4 місяці тому +1

    This is not exactly like that, public transportation is not that good to travel from one city to another one, it is expensive and it's not very well connected. It's better connected in proximities for each city. For instance, going from Eindhoven to the region of Zelanda, is not very easy, it's like 30 euros and you have to take 3 different trains, and 2 or 3 buses

  • @dezznutz472
    @dezznutz472 Рік тому +26

    this video reminds me much of how Japans main island is, Honsu. Honsu has so many big cities, where many of them is connected or just really close. also with shinkanse, it makes travelling between many of the cities fell like almost one big city. think also China has the same thing. they have also a lot of cities very close to each other along the coast of China.

    • @ianhomerpura8937
      @ianhomerpura8937 Рік тому +3

      The entire stretch from Tokyo to Fukuoka are full of cities that have more than 250,000 people. Hence why the first Shinkansen lines were built along that corridor.

    • @Highly-grounded
      @Highly-grounded Місяць тому

      Honshū

  • @Luclucluclucluc
    @Luclucluclucluc Рік тому +4

    You sound really Dutch while pronouncing“de Randstad” and you speak excellent English without a Dutch accent lol, normally you always hear Dutch people speak English and immediately know that they’re Dutch.

    • @gttc321
      @gttc321 6 місяців тому

      He definitely is Dutch

  • @jannetteberends8730
    @jannetteberends8730 Рік тому +4

    3 hours before this one, Not Just Bikes uploaded a video with the title “even small towns are great in the Netherlands”. Most of these small towns were outside the randstad. What a coincidence! 😂

  • @JackShoreMusic
    @JackShoreMusic Рік тому +1

    I want an Urk and burk feature film please! Ur amazing

  • @Ludix147
    @Ludix147 Рік тому +4

    So is this actually for an American audience with the NYC comparison? I'd like to see the Netherlands compared to something like London or Berlin or Paris

  • @paulbeaucuse2092
    @paulbeaucuse2092 Рік тому +4

    Well, a the cities in the agglomeration Randstad felt very provincial to me, I would say the "Ruhrgebiet" in Germany is a city, because it has a big-city mentality, 24/7 pub and clubs and 24/7 liquor shops everywhere for example. The Randstad is huge provincial city, a paradox, I realize, but life felt like that.

    • @vanCaldenborgh
      @vanCaldenborgh Рік тому +1

      True, it does not have the urban mentality like the "Ruhrgebiet", Hamburg, Cologne or Berlin.

  • @PythonAndy
    @PythonAndy Рік тому +7

    Me watching as a dutch person 👁.👁

    • @muysli.y1855
      @muysli.y1855 Рік тому +1

      Things i love the Dutch ppl for, Febo *nom

  • @AnoshterHaar
    @AnoshterHaar Рік тому +1

    This video totally overlooks things like dialect and culture differences troughout the 'ahum' country or the fact that you can't state the Netherlands is just the Randstad mentioning half of the population lives there. Well the other half doesn't. So the statement doesn't make any sense.
    From a transport perspective sure maybe you could see it as a big city. But that is only due to the small size of the country and things like the difference between getting into cities and towns by car. Driving by car to big cities is being demotivated and like in Utrecht cars are slowly getting banned all together. So that logically puts more and more pressure on public transport to be able to get people where they need to go and also make it possible to get to cities from anywhere.
    Which to be fair is not the case at all. It is quite a recent discussion that public transport has gotten less and less available to farmlands and area's outside of the Randstad. Which proves against the whole statement of this video.
    And to finish it all. Sure I understand the comparisons to cities and their infrastructure. Apart from it not being comparible in the first place I think lots of cities can and should learn from how the Netherlands handles things like infrastructure and public transport (to some degree). Which you could say make the Netherlands actually better than just 'a big city'...

  • @gaatjeniksaan336
    @gaatjeniksaan336 Рік тому +1

    Its highly wrong that Dutch people pay less on infrastructure. Every car owner here has to pay road tax dependent on the engine size and fuel type. I pay 76 euro per month road tax owning a 2 liter petrol car. For the same engine size, the road tax costs for a Diesel is more than twice that. Furthermore, NL has one of the highest fuel prices in the world. Public transport is only free for students and elsewise its more expensive that most other European countries.
    In comparison, in Germany one doesn't pay road tax at all and fuel is cheaper.

  • @nilslorand
    @nilslorand Рік тому +5

    Population density means very little though. Two countries of the same size, where one of them has a giant city with 100% of people and the rest of the country is empty and the other one, where everyone is spread out have the exact same population density, yet are very different.
    Now going back to the US, even in populated areas, its population density is way too low.
    Compare Dallas (Texas) and Paris: Dallas has a population density of 1300 per sq km, while Paris has a density of ~20000 per sq km.
    Why is that? Dallas is fully built for cars. Paris isn't.
    Now you can go "Netherlands small USA huge" all you want, but at the end of the day, the US has terrible land use in most of its cities. And a lot of the land that is currently in use due to suburban sprawl could just be left to the wilderness and everyone would benefit

    • @jan-lukas
      @jan-lukas Рік тому

      Yeah, Germany has a comparatively high density, but that mainly comes from many medium sized cities.

    • @michaelr.4921
      @michaelr.4921 Рік тому

      I feel like you completely did not understand the point of this video...

  • @DutchDeLorean
    @DutchDeLorean Рік тому +3

    If you truly compared The Netherlands to New York City I think you'll find them to actually be very very different.

  • @nietmachine9301
    @nietmachine9301 Рік тому +1

    The fact that New York's metropolitan area has a higher population than the whole of The Netherlands and you were comparing it to 20% of The Netherlands just emphasizes how shitty the USA infrastructure is right? I mean arguing that higher population density results in better infrastructure is just not a right statement then?

  • @Kirby_Edits69
    @Kirby_Edits69 5 місяців тому +1

    I have a feeling this guy is dutch cus he said “well we don’t know anything abt Utrecht” for reference Utrecht is a huge meme in the Netherlands it’s basically for them the bronx or Detroit it’s the capital of crime 😭😭😭

  • @h4bun5
    @h4bun5 Рік тому +5

    I love how hoog is both funny and educational

  • @blindedbliss
    @blindedbliss Рік тому +12

    I see others disagree, but I think the Urk and Buruk story was neat. I like the idea of you not being able to record it with a straight face.
    It's made simple, because novel ideas must be simple. This was a novel idea.

    • @blindedbliss
      @blindedbliss Рік тому

      5:50 I've only got one criticism. Shouldn't the man seed, and the woman harvest? 😉🙄

    • @CantTellYou
      @CantTellYou 11 місяців тому

      Just wait til you learn Buruk & Urk are the origin of Sesame Street’s “Bert & Ernie”!

  • @SnorProductions
    @SnorProductions Рік тому +8

    Netherlands is not a city it’s a Country!
    With its amazing rich history!
    Its definitely a really rich country!!!
    Big economy and well treated people, we can say it’s the Perfect country/ a example how every country should be!!
    With Utrecht it’s a big city and province where I live it’s very nice here!
    With a lot of nice people!
    That’s all what I wanted to say!
    Thanks for ur time!

    • @notatxmn
      @notatxmn Рік тому

      and remember without the netherlands there probably wouldnt be wifi, bluetooth and other things, well maybe there would be ofc but not at the time where it actually got invented

    • @victorschwartzkopf3377
      @victorschwartzkopf3377 Рік тому

      and yes without the UK🇬🇧 Netherlands would've just been a Soviet Russia satellite state

    • @SnorProductions
      @SnorProductions Рік тому

      @@victorschwartzkopf3377 nope

    • @victorschwartzkopf3377
      @victorschwartzkopf3377 Рік тому

      @@SnorProductions ww2

    • @SnorProductions
      @SnorProductions Рік тому

      @@victorschwartzkopf3377 wow

  • @michaelgrimm8078
    @michaelgrimm8078 Рік тому +1

    I`ll like that video, because it called ppl avoid Netherlands, what is good for me. You know, when u find a piece of gold, the last thing, what you gonna do, is creaming around how big and beautiful it is.

  • @elzinga87
    @elzinga87 11 місяців тому +2

    This is a very over simplified video.

  • @uptoolsYTK
    @uptoolsYTK Рік тому +4

    I'm learning dutch at the moment, and: "Ik spreek en beetje nederlands en je bent en brood."

  • @sardortokhirov
    @sardortokhirov Рік тому +3

    8:16 Netherlands just built different, and all the other countries have skill issue 💀💀

  • @sirping
    @sirping Рік тому +5

    The argument is not to make the whole entire US like the Netherlands but to make the Citys more liveable and walkable. This had nothing to do with how big the country itself is

  • @computerfan1079
    @computerfan1079 Рік тому +1

    Great video, but boiling down the Netherlands to just the randstad is reductive. It would have been more complete if you touched on the Brabandstad, Maastricht and Groningen

  • @Boop__Doop
    @Boop__Doop 4 місяці тому +1

    Hey same thing here in iceland
    We have Reykjavik and aparently a whole other uninhabited place called "the rest of iceland". I dont quite understand that last part though

  • @ToxixFire
    @ToxixFire Рік тому +3

    0:16 69k likes 💀

  • @eriktempelman2097
    @eriktempelman2097 Рік тому +3

    Dude, have you actually BEEN here? Yes, several cities have merged into what we call "de Randstad" and that's where most of the Dutch live. But relatively speaking, we also have a LOT of land that is comparatively empty, or at least a lot less densely populated.

    • @fern-tv
      @fern-tv  Рік тому +1

      We live there - Elmer

    • @hallo7053
      @hallo7053 Рік тому +1

      Bro 2 of the 3 creators live in an at least 10000 sqft mansion in Amsterdam. The reason why it is empty because that is their garden