Comparing Cochineal Red Paints! - ft Schmincke, Lutea & Texas WildColor! ♥️
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
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Schmincke's Cochineal Red (at Jackson's): bit.ly/3RorGhS
Lutea's Carmin - Laque de Cochenille (at Jackson's): bit.ly/3w9AktB
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Thanks everyone for letting me know that the Schmincke one is the more "common" hue! I should've paid more attention to that, sorry :)
I went down a rabbit hole with this one. I had to know why the colors were so different and it took some digging but I finally found it. Cochineal is pH sensitive. It's orange-yellow in very acidic conditions, wine red from pH 4 to 6.5, and purple-red in very alkaline conditions. I'm not sure what the pHs are of the various components typically used to make watercolors, but it seems to me that the makers of the watercolors can manipulate the shade with pH.
Personally I wouldn't call the typical carmine color wine red. I would call it magenta or maybe fuchsia.
A few years ago I dyed and spun wool using natural dye sources. Cochineal was available. The Schmincke colour is the truer colour for cochineal. I am not sure of the stability of the colour when used in wool. I think the Schmincke colour is the special colour and we don't realize it but the modern colours we use now have copied it.
I bought this pigment to add to my all red hued watercolor palette. I love reds . I also have both Cochineal watercolors from Texas Wildcolor I believe one is native and the other is from Peru .
Ooo, that sounds lovely! :D
Hello Eve. Marc with Texas Wild Color. I have Schmincke's color too and notice the difference. For mine I use a traditional lake process with Alum. I am suspecting that Schminke is using a slightly different process... either by using a tin salt in place of the alum...or possibly re-adding some pure cochineal dye...which is a warmer red.
I have never been able to achieve that warm of a red with the alum lake process...but I would love to!
Thank you for the kind words about Texas Wild Color.
Marc
Thank you so much for your input on this matter! This is very helpful :D
They don't mention it but would you think Schmincke is adding another pigment to the mix?
Interesting colour. Cochineal is supposed to be red so I would say the Schimicnke is the best representation of the colour.
So interesting, also in the comments, I too remember cochineal from mums‘ baking & icing, & the Schmincke is definitely the same colour as then. I like Schmincke watercolours & my paintings from 30 yrs. ago are as colorful as when I painted them & they weren’t specially stored! Thanks for your video.
This afternoon I took an old pale pink,grey, yellow mainly painting out of frame ( from 2000 , so 24 years old ), done in Schmincke paints, to clean frame, & colours are as bright now as they were then. And, I only have the old numbers.
I have Carminio di cochiniglia from Gallo and DellaMagna and they seem to be more similar in hue to Smincke's one than to the others, as far as I can see from the video.
I have the Cochineal from Kremer. It looks more like the Schmincke appears to be--like a richer, deeper version of Sennelier's Rose Madder and Carmine. My samples in my swatch book are 7 years old, and so are protected and are lasting just fine. And I've used it for intentionally fugitive projects :) Unfortunately I had bad luck with Texas WildColor paints--the batches I have quickly crumbled into grit and have been difficult to reconstitute. I haven't tried more of their paints recently, though, so I was surprised (and glad) that they work so well for you.
Same about the TWC palette. I might see if I can actually save it because I have kept it somewhere, crumbles and all 😂
I was just thinking "I'll bet Kramer has this already in their line ..." 😂😊
Natural cochineal food colouring is very intensely red and quite staining, temporarily. The Schmincke version is on the same bandwidth though less intense. The modern emulation of it is carmine, of course. I have wanted the Kremer Carmine Nacarrat for ages (it is lovely and intense) and will buy it over this limited issue one, it will fit in one of my Kremer boxes or even my Nila Colori set, it would sit well in either. I don’t really have a use for Schmincke’s Cochineal in with their mostly very light fast pigments. I already put a Carmine into my LE bijou box, it will just be more practical. I do love the vintage look of the boxes though, and wish they would revert to the century old typeface especially the bolder version.
The Schmincke colour is most like the cochineal from my childhood. Me even had bottles of cochineal food colouring. The others are pretty, but they're not hitting the cochineal mark for me.
Retail price is over $27 USD/15 ml for the same pigment used for coloring candies and lipstick. 😂
Beahahahahah 🤣🤣🤣
There is such a big difference between the Schminke and the other two. I recently got a tube since it could possibly become a limited edition. Thank you for a great review 🎉❤
Wow, that was interesting and helpful!
I'm glad! Thank you :)
I didn't know they were cochineal paints! (I know more about the use in textiles and the beauty industry) I really like the three because i lean to those kind of colors haha I'll try to get one.
A bit extra on the cochineal bug, in nahuatl it's called nocheztli that means "blood of prickly pear" and we call it "grana cochinilla" here in Mexico, in the south specially in Oaxaca we keep producing it for artisanal things and to export.
I like the Schminke one best, but that's just personal preference. Excellent comparison- thank you!
I have the Lutea Carmine and I really do enjoy using it-. My colours are now in pans and they re wet with no problem at all. This was interesting to see the different hues together. I guess the processes are very different for each. Thank you for the comparison.
I like all of them, they are really pretty, but my understanding of cochineal/ carmine is that it looks most like the schmincke colour. Maybe the process was different for the Lutea and Texas wild colour and that's why they were so different than the schmincke Carmine.
Della Magna also has a Cochineal Carmine that I think is closer to the Schmincke hue
Carmine is commonly used in cosmetics, particularly lipsticks and red eyeshadows. My understanding is that its used because it is fugitive, and one of the only red pigments that doesn't stain the skin, which is why it is hard to find vegan red eyeshadows.
Glad you are back. Great content.
Hi Eve, this is super interesting! I wonder if the Schmincke one is different because it is processed differently? Maybe better separation of bug juice to other bug parts? :D The color of Schmincke looks very similar to the swatches in the books. And I can totally see that this color was exciting in the times when no other color like this was available. It reminds me of some articles where it was mentioned, but I'll have to double check. Thanks for the comparison!
fantastic video Eve, I love your channel☺☺☺
Very interesting. It seems very big difference in color, maybe they used different parts of bugs or something? and btw, It is also approved as food coloring...
I am alergic to cochineal. That natural red pigment is used in a number of cosmetic lines. Clinique uses cochineal red (labeled as carmine). My eyes and lips swell if I touch the material. So definitely won't buy it.
Good point.
I have dyed yarn with cochineal and it was most like the Schmincke in hue. But all three of these are lovely.
Pretty colors. Love all 3 of them. Suggested next vid, finding doups for this pigment? I'm ok with painting with little bugs. They owe me for being a pain in my butt for a life time
Ar÷ there other pigments in the mixes?
No! Just the cochineal pigment :)