New Canon RF 1200mm and 800mm | First Look Review
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- With a little bit of history around the previous Canon 1200mm models by Canon, Amy presents the new RF 1200mm f/8 telephoto lens! She then reveals the new RF 800mm f/5.6; both being remarkable lenses for capturing imagery over a remarkable distance.
To find out more about these two new RF lenses, follow the links below:
Canon RF 1200mm f/8 IS USM: bit.ly/3sgazU1
Canon RF 800mm f/5.6 IS USM: bit.ly/36GUtdX
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I am super impressed you got an original 1200mm here to compare!! The presentation style was excellent too, keep it up
Review of the 1200mm f5.6? Comparison images?
@@helisoma The whole point of the video was to review the beta RF models; not to compare them with the much older and abundantly more expensive one.
Are the glass inside exactly like the 400mm F/2.8 lens + 2x TC, and 600mm F/4 lens + 2x TC?
If the optics are exactly the same, isnt these newly released lens "Gimmicky"?
This was a great watch, and Amy's energy was incredibly fun when shooting.
Glad you enjoyed tuning in! Thanks for watching! Amy
So rf and ef lens can both be used on .
Canon eos r5 and mark 111.
Am i right?
Greetings from Melbourne, Australia. This was super informative and entertaining. Loved it!
Great background provided here to put everything in context. Fantastic job!
i have 1200mm F8 with my Canon EF 600 F4L IS II plus x2 and RF adaptor, it didn't cost £20k lol
Amazing)) Ty for your work ;)
Glad you like it!
Thanks for the information!
Love that old lens.
I may have to save up a while. $$$
The video was great, but I missed a lot some kind of image comparison between EF and RF 1200mm lenses.
Honestly, I don’t think this lens is too outrageous. I shoot with a 600 mm in 1.6 crop mode all the time for 960mm and often, this is not enough. And it’s not that I’m so terribly far away, but rather, that the birds I shoot are often tiny. I can be shooting a bird from 25 or 30 feet, at 960mm and still have to crop to fill enough of the frame. If I could afford this lens, it would probably stay on my camera 90% of the time, and would rarely be too long. I think it would just be “long enough” more of the time than 960 mm is now.
I love the fact that this borders on the realm of parody and uber-hype. I may not have the same sense of humour as you. But I can with the investments I've made on my photos....... this is mental level :)
The close up of the blossom.....use a £ 100 lens and walk up to it...... I mean, it wasn't even that focussed .
Keep hitting the lottery! Can you see a knat’s whiskers on the moon!😜
In the dim and distant past,1998 I think I bought a Kodak/Canon DCS5. It sucked, for 6months I complained to Kodak. Eventually they sent TWO managers around with one of their cameras, to show me I was a plonker. Only in seconds it was obvious that my camera was faulty. They took it away to sort it out. Don't worry, punch line coming up. When I called to see what was taking so long, they said there was actually nothing wrong with my camera, the results were supposed to look like that. When I complained that their camera worked they said..... Naturally, ours is a pre-production version, they are infinitely superior to the ones we sell!!!!! When I suggested they replaced it with a DCS 520 they said... Oh, you won't want one of those, they have the same inherent flaws. Naturally he was lying, I was committed to digital by then and had to buy one anyway. 2.1Mp, £10,500, ouch. So, be careful about the words pre-production.
Well that’s one way to avoid supply chain issues. Build lenses and kit nobody can afford.
Fantastic
Awesome👍
Funny, with my m43 lenses I can hand-hold 1200mm for hours.
So where's your 600mm f/4 on M4/3 to match the results this gives you?
I have lens envy...
cool
Mamma mia!
I can use this to monitor my drug dealer neighbor .... since corrupt cop won't do anything
When you look at the lens element diagrams you realise they are 400mm f2.8 and 600mm f4 lenses with a permanent inbuilt 2 X converter at the rear of the lens. I actually think that is really disappointing as they are not actually true 800mm and 1200mm lenses. Massively overpriced IMHO, get the EF/RF 400/600 versions and add converters should you wish.
Боке на обоих новых обьективах вызывает разочарование. Оно двоится. Да и в целом изображение не впечатляет. Отсутствует контраст и нет звенящей резкости. Не думаю, что у серийных объективов ситуация будет лучше.
Junk compared to the Tamron 150-600 G2 at 960mm on the 80d
the tamron ai't sharp until f8 onward, so you're hauling unnecessary glass with tamron, I owned the tamron until i traded it with RF 100-400 f8
😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
$20k 😬
I'll put you down for 7 Brandon! Amy
@@WexPhotoVideo payment may be in limbo til the lambo gets sold
Don't pollute photography with that gender thing
These are EF 400mm F/2.8 and EF 600mm f/4 with a 2X TC and RF adapter attached (the silver thing nearest the camera). The weights and MFDs are also exactly what you'd expect.
Save your money and buy a TC, folks. You may lose a tiny bit of corrected IQ but you'll save yourself £6,000 and trill have two lenses, not one.
Great video and kudos on getting the 1200mm F/5.6 'in hand'.
My thoughts too, but you can also put 1.4 and 2x converters on these. My 600 is pin sharp even with 1.4 converter…. not quite so with 2x
@@PissaroPicasso Same here Tim, should have said three lenses: a 600mm f/4, a 840mm F/5.6 and an 800mm F/8.
Yes, looking forward to tests with the mega expensive lenses versus the slightly less mega expensive options with converters.
@@PissaroPicasso Agree. Also, 600+2X leads to an F8 which is really painful considering you are doing a 1000+mm work.
Absolutely right. And from the shape of the lens, this seems exactly what they have done. Added an RF adapter (at least this time not in silver) and a 2x converter. But the main problem by not "redesigning" the lenses is that the centre of weight most likely has again moved forward (which has been the issue when using the 400 and 600 primes with the Canon 2x converter (who especially long compared with the Sony 2x).
I already have the RF 800 f/11 and can appreciate the L-quality lens, but the price does not justify my breaking open the piggy bank.
These lenses also have two focus pre-sets that would be very useful for when I am taking photographs of aircraft in flight.
I saw a guy with it at an airshow the other day and i was marvelling 🤣
I'm just impressed that you have a piggy bank big enough to hold enough to buy this lens! It must be the size of a house!
Is it possible that these two lenses are simply a 400 MM F/2,8 and 600 MM F/4 just with a built-in 2x teleconverter? If yes then instead of selling a 600 EUR converter Canon can charge a loooooot more this way.
Kind of sickening when I remember seeing the 1200mm Canon L lens on eBay some years back and I almost bought it. I figured I wouldn't use it enough so didn't get it, but I seem to remember it was only about £2-3K. And now it is worth £422K??!! Excuse me whilst I go and headbutt a wall!
Wasn't it like 63k when it came out?
@@MrWiseinheart don't know, and I am wondering if either my memory is failing me or it was a bogus advert.
I can literally see the super glue that holds the 2x converter to the lens.
I love Amy's reviews. So engaging and knowledgeable.
Thanks Mr T! Glad you enjoyed it! Amy
Amy, you need your own channel! The comedienne photographer! I don't know what Wex is paying you, but it's not enough!
In 2010 was new EF lens offered for 95000€, (which is +- 121500 today).
F8 though... f6.3 or f7.1 would have made more sense, otherwise you may as well get the 600mm F4 then add a 2x teleconverter for 1200mm f8 then you have the flexibility of removing the tele for a more normal focal length. Any thing that far away you will have problems with atmosphere distortion and your always best to get closer.
It wouldn't make any sense to build an even more expensive (and heavy) 6.3, when you have all the bokeh you need with F8 at 1200mm and it's already sharp wide open. There are lots of bird photographers using a 600mm F4 with 2x converter with fantastic results, and while you miss flexibility with that fixed length, and the price is really for the happy few, this thing makes sense for bird photographers and probably also sports photographers. Atmosphere distortion isn't a thing within the distance you usually take bird / sports photographs.
@@l.d.t.6327 I did some more research and apparently the RF 800mm f 5.6 is shockingly soft for what it is. The results are pretty rough. My EF 600mm version 2 is way sharper. However, regarding the 1200mm, we will have to see when the tests come out. If it proves to be sharper than the 800mm than it would be a terrific songbird lens especially. But I agree that the versatility of being able to adapt to a 600 is much more preferential. Especially framing a fast bird at 1200. At least for me, it is difficult and I am pretty good at action shots. Can’t wait to see how the reviews look though.
@@gary_michael_flanagan_wildlife I know several photographers with the 800 who are very happy with it. I haven't heard any of them complain of softness, but a very slight "softness" in today's world is of little consequence with all the extremely good sharpening tools available in post.
You forgot to mention the 1200mm is achieved with a bespoke built in 2x tc.
Agh it's my dream to own a lens that long!! Imagining all the close up bird shots I could get. One day
A blind is a lot cheaper!
good lenses but that APETURE IS A NO NO NO Think of it add 2.0 teleconverter for birding you have 1600 mm or 2400 mm f what... no image quality shutter speed will destroy the image at that price i think canon should stop making lenses because they can
they shouls have made a canon 800 mm f4 1200 mm f4 thoose would be good lenses not this
I really do enjoy your videos, besides, you crack me up!
I don't think this lens is a stupid idea from Canon. just a sensible and good idea, and effective for taking great photos. for example, animals or nature.
Thanks for the feedback
I hope you will make many more videos! You have a very inspirational way of telling/presenting
Gluing teleconverters from Canon is disappointing.
Wex have got a presenting superstar on their hands.
ability x2 to 2400mm, wow
About the haze... know all about it... I shoot mainly windsurf during 'bad weather' at sea (good weather for the windsurfers hehe, meaning, strong winds, big waves).
ALL Canon camera's from 5D , 1D till now the R5/R3 had some issues with AF sometimes. You really have to focus 'hard and accurate' on for example sails (colors).
That 800mm would be nice (instead of my EF 500/F4.0L IS II with convertor ), but... the 'plunge' to pay 9000 euro for that 500mm was already bit ehr... weird (allthough it was worth it!!)
PRoblem with fixed mm's is that with windsurf, sometimes they get bit to close, and you can't barely adjust to it. But a 800 with convertor, would make it possible to get action really far away or from the dunes even. ALlthough, due to 'sea, salt and sand' in the air, action to far away will always be bit 'hazy or grainy'... (but most even like that more, shows 'atmosphere' ,that's why shooting in heavy rain is sometimes 'magical', since you really isolate the surfer... and the surfers like it too, since I'm mostly the only one 'stupid' enough to stand in gushing rain, and stormy winds ;) )...
Mmmmm, can you imagine ? Sunday afternoon dinner at grandmas.. followed up by a family group photo, and you take out this !!!!!
"1200 mil power...beast" at 7:47 had me dying. Facts.
See the video of Jan Wegener , the most expensive teleconverter .. it is just a EF600mm f4.0 IS III that is conveted to the RF600mm f4.. same MTF chart... coupled with the new RF 2x TC ..
The RF1200 f8 = a EF 600mm f4.0 + RF 2x + EF to RF adapeter backed in one construction , MFT charts of both combo's proof it...
RF 800mm f5.6 = EF400mm ISiii + RF 2x TC optics + the EF/RF adapter backed in one construction... the "old" EF 800mm f5.6 has better optics, it does not need a tc to achieve this focal length
If you have a RF 400mm + a RF2x , you do not need the RF800mm f5.6... the internals are the same
Guys!! Lol I just can’t do it!! I appreciate your review, but canon supposedly put a 600mm f4 and added a 2X converter, combined and rebranded it. I really doubt my EF 600mm f 4 II L lens (that’s actually sharper than the version 3) will be worth selling to get one of these two monster lenses. I just think Canon would have been better to create a 600 or 800mm DO lens instead. I don’t even think sports or Olympic photographers are going to run out and get these. I know for birds you can never have enough focal length but I think this is more of a publicity stunt than realistic. But thank you for all the hard work you put into your videos. You guys keep it funny and informative.
Native speaker with wonderful sounds, Thanks Wex
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.
I heard that national geographic mounted an original 1200mm on a helicopter gun turret. i guess if you have the 1200mm lens money in 1993, you also have helicopter money
hey canon, I bet more people would buy the RF 300 f2.8 than those ridiculously priced beasts. Just saying
Still stuck in EF mode... but your presentation/production was most interesting. You like your subject (pun intended)
well as much as I wold love either my bank balance says "NO" lol £22k and £19k yes I would have to sell all my lenses and R5 and still add £5k to it LOL
That 800 with the internal 1.6 crop is 1280mm or with an additional 1.4x is 2400mm or a 2x instead and then it’s a 2880mm. I’d go with the 800 for sure
2:27 - that was more impressive than the announcement of the new RF models 😜
somthing to save up for for years to come. right noe im just using a canon 7d and a 300m. i know im cheap lol
Great video and congrats on being able to handle another OG 1200mm beast! As for the "This is just a 400/600mm EF with a 2x TC" blah blah blah comments... yeah; that's what Canon is going to do, just rehash an old lens and slap a massive price tag on it. That's how they've become a market leader. Some people...🙄
I’m wondering how different the front end optics areon the 1200…. it looks like the RF 600 (same diameter and front end) with an extra 65mm at the back end… almost like a built-in but presumably elaborate 2x converter. £9k more though… or are the front elements different too?
Do you guys know when the 800mm may be in stock? Debating an upgrade!! Thanks!
Thank you! I just picked up an R5 plus the F4.0 70-200mm lens last week and I am really loving it so far.
What's a non gender?
So, Amy, what you're saying is these are both great family portraiture lenses, then?
Glad that both genders can handle this beautiful 1200mm glass.
I just farted
Very nice video, thank you! Just a small correction: not every L lens has fluorite element, actually most of them don't have one.
Very interesting review and I can see the genuine excitement in trying these lenses.
If I may though, I would have invested a bit more time and money to try these lenses in a more wildlife environment in UK to show their capabilities considering these lenses costs in between 14 and 19 k £ and they are rented for around 100£/day.
Thank you for watching!
Is kenko pro 3x teleconverter e 1200 mm lens compatible?
Make me one of each on the side...going to sale my liver for them 🤣🤣
not exactly canon made a fl 1200 mm f11 before the fd in 1972
i'm so happy to watching this video. thank you
C'est objectifs sont une arnaque de la part de Canon ils ont juste intégrer les téléconvertisseur X2 sur le 400mm 2.8 et le 600mm f4.Ce qui fait très cher le téléconvertisseur!
Hey Ludovic, I asked Canon about this and was told this is a totally new design, not just the 400mm and 600mm with converters attached. Thanks for watching - Amy
Nah i have the biggest crush on this woman
How dare you shoot in one shot. Servo always.
Commentary is hilarious 😂 👍
this should be called air quality/heat distort tester🤣
Outstanding 1200 lens. Thanks for the review.
You've called it an RF 800 5.6 multiple times in the video, and even displayed it in writing on images. It's f8, why don't you know what you're reviewing?
Canon now have rf 800mm f11 and rf 800 f5.6 in production
One of the Finest Presentations
Wow! Two Canon super telephoto RF lenses. Thanks for the review. I wait for your bird shots with these.
Great video and great presentation but Im afraid that photography is headed in a direction where only the super rich can afford quality. The price of camera bodies and lenses has gotten to price that’s out of reach for people like me, I’m stuck buying used or antiquated equipment. Canon where is the 600mm $2000.00 lens that you missed out on? Canon wake up were not all rich.
How many of those lenses do you honestly expect to sell .. in a year ???
Less than 10 or more ??? tbh I'll be very surprised if you sell more than 5
Would you know what Canon's projected Sales target is ?
Considering the price points of each lense they are far from affordable . And i garuntee any of the gear reviewers on YT will never show the lenses ability of capturing Hi flying jets in greater detail ? .. or ships far offshore or even the moon . Can the 1200 and 800 capture the surface of the moon in greater detail ???
I guess size does matter 🤷♂️
A long time ago I was sweltering at noon at a Bombay open market whilst my lovely wife bartered for a pair of much need white shorts for me. Eventually the extended haggling settled on a price. Or so I thought. Then my wife started all over again with the opening words "Supposing I buy two?".
Good review but don’t understand why all reviewers say “pre production” model. Anything given out to review nowadays is basically the final product; I can only imagine any software tweaks being made at this point in its development.
That's gotta be the world's most expensive refractor!
A compareson with The Sigmonster 200-500 f2.8 would have been fun
Wow, just wow!! That is some serious eye candy. The 800 would be perfect for birding. I am salivating, but that's a lot of coins. LOL.
11:22 I often find heat distortion even with my rf100-500 cannot imagine what it will be like while using a 1200 during sunny day🤣🤣
Superb, thanks for sharing this! 👏😀👍🦦
Glad you liked it, they are stunning lenses.
I absolutely love some of the stats in that video but what sort of real world range are we talking about exactly? How small an object can I focus on and at what range? Can I shoot Goldcrests from half a mile out for example?
My Nikon AF-S 400mm f/2.8G VR is a LOT heavier than the Canon 800mm! I’m well jealous 😂
How much lens1200mm
Tell us more about the other genders aside from the scientific two 🤣👍🤣
Can you please try it with astrophotography? like the milky way, Saturn, Moon, Jupiter.
great presetion and geat technology. i hope sony will release a 800mm or 1000mm for my system too.
Amazing information 😊❤️
Amy, you say about the weight and ballance, but keep in mind, this focal length, esp in the early 80's/ 1990's was /is mainly used for things like space rocket launch photography, as this focal length is basically a short telescope, so you could do far observations, albeit on LAND like plane speed trials, as the glass is not made for outer space!; this meant that these were designed to be put on tracking mounts, like machine guns on aircraft, so these were NEVER envisenged to be hand held.
Good video. I got the 800 ef and that is handheld without problem, 2 thumbs up
Hi Amy
Thanks for the initial review. Clearly not detailed, but excellent given what is available so far. There are going to be so many interesting tests that you reviewers can do for these two new lenses and the 600mm F4. Here's my first request; 600mm (cropped), vs 600mm with 1.4 converter, vs 800mm. I'm guessing that quite a lot of the 600mm backlog will have evaporated and landed on the 800mm. OK there is a big price difference, but if you are an enthusiast who can afford £13k for a lens, it's doubtful that £20k is a meaningful difference.
Best wishes
Ron