This is a New Series, where I go over my own thoughts, and community opinions, to try and put together some ideas for future Total War Titles. Future Examples of this Series could be Medieval 3, Warhammer 3, Shogun 3, Empire 2, Lord of the Rings Total War? : )
@@theempiredidnothingwrong3227 that sounds interesting but more likely as an expansion for 3 kingdoms. If they even attempt on making a massive world expanding across 3 continents then we'll be facing another buggy, under developed and not finished game. Not to mention the lack of cultural, unit, general diversity. Honestly atm I'm just negative all round towards ca so maybe I'm wrong. Just seems like they've turned into a corporation soly focused on released cheaply produced games at the highest cost to make the most profit, not to mention a million dlcs to "improve" the game. :(
I love the idea as starting with Philip II and uniting Greece, then playing as Alexander mid campaign, and in the late game after his death you can choose what successor state to play as
@@MelkorGG Thank you! Since Alexander: Total War is such a narrow focus, I hope that the game (if it's made) can bring back eras like in Medieval 1. Early Era (Philip/Tutorial)/Middle Era (Alexander and everyone else/Late Era (Diadochi).
if alexander 2 was to be made it would be a Saga game because of how specific its focus is , with how modern CA seem to work when it come to what is saga and what isnt , it seem like the realistic option they would take
athomicritics nope, Saga games are for very small areas with events that did not affect the world of the region very much. Alexander’s conquest spread to the borders of modern day India, and he spread Hellenistic culture not only across the Mediterranean, but across most of Asia Minor as well.
athomicritics you are thinking of another war, the Boshin war did not have that much of an affect on the world at large nor imperial japan as we know them during WW2. If the samurai had never fell, they most likely would’ve still been kept as an actual job, just without the benefits that they previously held. They probably would’ve been highly trained battlefield commanders used as a showpiece sort’ve like the polish hussars, but the samurai opened a new school of artillery between the Boshin war and the satsuma rebellion, so they could actually be effective on the modern battlefield unlike Calvary which was quickly dying by the time of the polish hussars. Alexander had a lasting impact on the cultures of the regions he conquered, to military tactics, weapons and armor, and basically what any military commander wanted to be. Caesar is the name emperors named themselves upon their coronation, and he is often who we think of when we think of a tyrant or dictator, but Alexander is who we think of when it comes to a conqueror. The phalanx was revolutionized by Alexander, and became the basis for many military formations, such as the pike and shot or shield walls. You can still see examples of Greek architecture across the lands Alexander conquered, and for centuries after his death the Greek style of armor was used across the Mediterranean. Hannibal, probably the only military commander to successfully use Alexander’s phalanx by realizing the main disadvantage of the phalanx was its flanks weren’t protected, and just like Alexander he protected it with javelin throwers. If Alexander wasn’t a great military leader on par if not better than Attila and Napoleon then why is his tactics still taught in military academies today? Saying he didn’t have as much of an impact as the boshin war is not only ignorant, it’s completely false.
I actually read the title and thought “no way, an Alexander campaign would be too linear.” But you’ve convinced me, particularly with expanding the campaign map into India - that would be so interesting. Love the supply system, local units and civil war ideas as well but I doubt ca is brave enough to implement them, unfortunately.
I was one of those freaks that liked Empire a lot. Loved the scale of the map and the gunpowder era. Also the research mechanic is something i found interesting.
OMG I would Love an Empire 2!!! It'd be Great to have a Total War game Devoted to 1700 all the way to the 21st Century and Beyond, with all the appropriate Technologies. Instead of just focusing on the 18th Century. It would also be cool to have a Total war game Finely feature Nuclear Weapons too.
@@pepperVenge Well, Total war would still be playable until the 1900s... but sadly later than that it loses the classical total war feel. And standing in line formations with modern rifles isn't a good strategem... 1700-1900 perhaps?
@@conradovillegasalvarado6392 Unless they adopted modern warfare. There's nothing that says Total War has to be Historical. I don't see how it loses anything by going beyond 1900. To me, its about Warfare Simulation, not History. What Total War is really all about; Use the War Machine better then the other's. But So far, the War machine in Total War has only been the Bow and Arrow, Catapult, Spear, Sward, or Musket. I'd love to Command Modern Warfare in a Total War Game! Imagine Commanding Modern Super Carriers, Fighter Jets, Soldiers with Modern Weapons, and see who Comes out on top. Or even See what would happen if Someone Actually did use a Nuke Aggressively in today's age... I've Seen other games try to do Modern Warfare in a Command and Conquer style, but they aren't as good or simple as Total War.. Total War is the best. Thats why I want to see Total War do an Empire 2 taking place from 1700 to well beyond 2000. And have it take place on the Entire World, not just limited Theaters.
Marriages with local cultures in areas you have conquered to gain stability and loyalty (and other perks?) but at the cost of dissatisfaction from your subordinate generals/troops or from back home.
I don't think unit variety would be that big of an issue especially if the regional recruitment system that you suggested is implemented (I will use the Macedonian army as an example since i am more familiar with it but considering the size of the Persian Empire I would be surprised if they also did not posses a large variety of units). Macedonian Armies while phalanx based were still reliant on wide variety of auxiliary troops (e.g. agrarian peltast, Paenonian Cavalry cretan archers etc) and as Alexander moved east he would phase out some of his Hellenic troops with local auxiliaries. The use of special units would be possible as well historically accurate (The Pharsalian Squadron (Thessalian Cavalry) and Royal Squadron (Companion Cavalry) spring to mind). Total variety may actually be a bad thing if taken to far as it would take away from each factions unique flair and streamline battle strategy in multiplayer. As a side note, the old total war system where you did not need a general in the army and there was no army cap needs to make a return. Its more realistic and adds some logistical complexity to the game. Furthermore, it would make the regional recruitment system much more important if it was implemented and feasibly enforce an unconventional army upon the player if they were desperate for troops.
In my opinion the best way it could play out if you play as the Argeads is you begin the campaign as Philip on the map of Troy total war, then if he dies you play as Alexander on the same campaign map as rome total war Alexander (overhauled, of course) and if he dies, you play as one of the diadochi on the full map of the known world at the time (hellenistic world, mediterranean, persia and india (2:58)).
From what I've read about Alexanders campaign, there were far more than just Macedonian Phalanx and Companion Calvary used in his battles. Many Mercenary units made up the rest of his army. He definitely had lite/medium infantry units, along with Mercenary missile units, which was done decently and even encouraged in Rome:Alexander. But could be expanded upon in a new game. Certain areas may yield more effective units. As for the campaign in general, starting as Phillip II would be amazing, and letting us take India and further on would be a dream. Answering the question, what if Alexander didnt stop :p
It would be cool that you could start with Phillips II in a more diplomatic focused start and later focus More in warfare and Conquest of foreigner lands with his son Alexander
dlc ideas rise of persia (playing as cyrus and expanding to what persia became) aftermath of alexanders death (unless addressed in the base game) story line campaign whereby you follow what alexander did and playout the key battles like in the originals historical battles
The best way to make a hypothetical Alexander 2 have a good unit variety is to just go full historical. The various Persian satraps would have been fighting in their own preferred style with a core of Iranian soldiers. The west coast of Anatolia would be fighting classical style phalanxes supplemented by the various indigenous peoples like the karians who fought as skirmishers. As the player goes eastwards they fight the mountainous hillmen of cappadochia, the old fashioned Assyrian and Babylonian style armies, "bronze age Egypt", the mountains peoples of the caucuses, and finally the Persian heartlands proper with the creme of Iran's finest chariots, archer-spearmen, and the immortals. Persia would need to be represented as the actual persian empire not as the bad guys from 300 with terrible morale, equipment, fighting styles, and "bad archers". Alexander's army needs to be the "Pan-Hellenic" crusade he was talking about with pikemen of various seniority making up the unit roster and when a unit of pikemen reach a certain level of experience they can be upgraded to bronze-shield pikemen and finally the silver-shields. A few "what if" units to flesh out the roster could also be added to give diversity while retaining historical plausibility. The Iphricatean style of phalanx would be a good way to give Macedon a good line infantry that could also give chase, throw javelins, guard the flanks, and lead an assault they should not be good at everything but able to preform those roles in a pinch.
One of my all time favorite mods for Total War Rome was Diadochi Total War. They included early Rome, Carthage and Epirus along with all of the different Diodochi and even made a difference between the several types of hoplites and phalangites. I played the hell out of that mod before my disk copy was unplayable.
They definitely need to change the whole warscape engine. The whole battle system of 1 on 1 kill moves is stupid and doesn’t make sense. Something like shogun 2, they used the warscape engine but changed it enough so it wasn’t unrealistic. They also need to change up the music, bring back Jeff!
I am new over your channel. Been looking for this sort of a video but couldn't find one in your playlist, until now :) For me Alexander had extreme potential, and I was even pumped up when they released Attila, thought "okay standalone Barbarian Invasion, maybe we'll have standalone Alexander. I was disappointed, hope they do release it:)
Welcome : ) And I am sure they will someday. There were rumours a while back that there may be an Alexander game. Some expect it to be the new Saga, but it turned out to be Troy. So hopefully a full Alexander may be coming.
Stainless steel mod has something akin to it that you can recruit only your units in youre culture areas. And when you expand you will have more auxallary units. Quite fun system to play with. And you wil be mind full to sent cohorts of reforcements to certain frontlines.
A UK based company making a video game about a controversial and frequently misrepresented event from US history? What could possibly go wrong?! Look away!
You have 2 factions so it would be pretty stale for a total war game, now a total war game set in that time period of the world would interesting. Especially if we include German unification into the mix. So that way I could go screw around during the late 1800s period of the world. Maybe include Meji era Japan as well. So yeah an American civil war game wouldn't be to interesting but a pre WW1 game would be pretty lit.
They should deliver a chill adventure through Alexander's path of destruction, make the player feel progressively powerful, sorta how you start with 2 cities and little money then to slowly turn into emperor of the world with 3 million denari add the entire world, so civilizations that aren't supposed to meet encounter each other, don't make it to realistic, make it fun Add a lot of buildings so cities are complete with variation and mostly important let the player developt their own units, yes alexander fought with phalanx walls, let the player come up with their own units.
If we think beyond the Total War games, Alexander would be perfect for a game that merges Mount and Blade with Total War. Control Alexander directly as player character and throw yourself into the fight. But with an army as large as the ones in Total War that keeps formations and forms a functioning battle line.
This is the future of total war if they listen to the people, we want to fight first person in a massive battle. The thing is.. it will be unrealistic if you think you are going to be Achilles and kill everyone and not die yourself. There has to be a mix of kingdom come, mount and blade and total war. There must be realism in the fight animations like kingdom come, but yet there must NOT be freedom to roam around while your unit is in formation. There must messenger cavalry units to carry orders throughout the army which takes time. Little things like this. There must be freedom to engage in castle walls archery, lead cavalry charge in formation, be the 3rd or 5th man In the Macedonian phalanx. These little freedoms as first person, yet be able to view from a third person and even eagle eye view. Multiple animations, multiple ways to fight and die and not feel immortal.
Love the idea but I would have thought a standalone Khan total war would be the next best option. From Genghis beginning through to his grandson Kublai and the fracturing of the empire. It would expand from Mongolia to Japan down to Siam and across to the Middle East and North to Novgorod, ending at Vienna in the West. Would be Epic.
Also Alexander and Darius came to power in the same year. Persia itself would be dealing with a lot of separatist movements like Khabash's rebellion in Egypt and Bessu in Bactria.
Oh I completely agree. This would be the opportunity to showcase (ironically) the Egypt that CA demonstrated in the first Total War. Give us the classical Egypt we hated though also Khabash's predecessors did use Greek mercenaries. So a traditional Egyptian army with Greek mercenary hoplites.
I think that given the new saga that is coming, we could get saturated of the ancient helenistic and roman worlds. They should do medieval 3 or Empire 2 first, the something like Alexander.
Since Alexander 1 was really a expansion/dlc for Rome 1 would Alexander 2 make since? I mean there technical never was a Alexander 1 game but only a dlc. I like “Alexander the Great Total War” better than Alexander 2 total war. It’s like calling Attila. Barbarian Invasion 2
It's a SubMod for the Divide et Impera Mod (all 3 parts). Install that. Then install this: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1818310099 And run all 4 subscibed items at the same time. : )
@@goodbanter4427 In the epic of aqhat, he has a magic bow. The war goddess Anat offers to buy it off him, even offering immortality. He refuses to sell, saying women should be in the kitchen. Anat has her henchman yutpan the eagle god take the bow but aqhat is killed and and the bow gets broken.
It would be very cool and add replay value if you play as Macedonia and then change to one of the diadochi (Egypt, Macedonia, Epirus, Pontus, Babylon, Bactria etc...).
Or maybe you could control one of the diadochi from the begging and accompany Alexander in his battles microing a wing or type of soldier of his AI controlled army, and then becoming autonomous.
Would be a great expansion/DLC for Rime 2. But I think they are done with the game. Rome 3 production is what they ll do next as far as the time period
The amount of content in them so so minimal. I personally think it’s been a downhill slide since the release of Rome 2. I love Rome 2...but at the start it was so bad. And even today it lacks units, events, political systems that are unique. Rome 2 was a good start imo. But now they are pumping these games out and they are boring, no real replay ability, mainstreamed, or good lord the “hero” general battles.... these games to me are failing on their faces. They could up graphics, interaction/units in battle, politics, and the most important this...unit variety/unique units. One of the biggest problem is...a faction like Rome gets a great roster while the other factions have 10 units all game. And I believe Rome should have even more units to choose from. The hero/general battles should flat out be chucked out
Not really. I’m looking at Rome 1 with the different things that happen across the map, Attila where’d there are multiple different thing and events happening. Expand on that. And definitely increase all rosters; new units along with a variety. As far as politics...just expand and make them different. Not mainstreamed. Give each faction things that historically made sense. And in Rome we had a great animation when a cav unit/elephant unit crashed into another... things like that should have been in Rome 2.
Damn they should just bring out a general Medieval 3 with new features and new graphics but so that it feels like a worthy successor. Stop limiting the armies as they only exist of 2000 soldiers max anyway and instead give me the opportunity to raise my 300k army as it’s been until Rome 2. I think you should bring those ‚adventures‘ in separate campaigns included in the main game.
Also give us more opportunities to manage cities to get a little simulation touch. I’m still missing the feature of walking into cities as in Mount and Blade and being greeted by your peasants. Would love to be able to take a walk around my palace to have a feeling of how mighty I am or my faction is.
The Greeks could rule the world. Alexander did. He took a Greek army to the far Indus. There was nothing left to conquer, the world was his. But Alexander is dead. His empire is gone.
@@MelkorGG True, true. But it doesen´t change the fact that it would be a greedy move. Because in the simplest design for the Philipp campaign, they would only need to do a bigger campaignmap of greece, reskin most of the units (a hoplite from Argos, isn´t so different from a hoplite from Thebes, from Phokis, so this would just boil down to optical variations which they, if following your suggestion concerning "special" regional units, would have already made anyway [btw good idea]), only the macedonian early roster would need to be created. But all other armies could be the same since the military didn´t evolved between Philipp and the rise of Alexander. So IF they would go for the simplest design (like they did with Napolen) it would be highwayrobbery to sell this as a DLC. However, IF they would be doing something "crazy" and complex with that era (like the Rome 2 Republic, Peloponnesian War, Aurelian; Attila Charlemagne, Iustinian Era DLC´s), then a DLC would be resonable. But as I said, I can´t see contendwise what should justify a Philipp campaign as an Alexander DLC.
@@MelkorGG After watching your latest vid about the DLC´s I have to correct myself, CA would totally go for a DLC Philipp Campaign. I didn´t knew that the Peninsula Campaign in Napoleon was a DLC (bought the Definitive Edition some years after the release and didn´t payed to much attention to the DLC´s because I was assuming they were all just unit packs).
No, Just No we got a wrath of Sparta Mod and now we get troy, greek is overrepresented! Just make IT a Mod for rome 2 Not a Saga? Probably more interresting Saga than three kingdom, with india and arabia
how is that different from Rome 2 ? or DEI mod, if you want more "basically the same, but with slightly different stats" units? This game has so much overlap with Rome 2, that you could just extend that map to India, push the start date back a bit to included Philip II, and add a bunch of new units - and there you have it.. instead of spending resource on a dead horse like that, CA should work on the untouched eras like the "pike and shot" era, the bronze age, or the history of China/India/Mesoamerica/... or give us more fantasy title like LoTR, WoW, or Skyrim.. anything but a remake of a recent game..
Can the fighting campaign get better cause Rome 2 and stills were horrible at that. I miss theropod fighting engine all thruway up to Shogun 2 then it went to shit
This is a New Series, where I go over my own thoughts, and community opinions, to try and put together some ideas for future Total War Titles.
Future Examples of this Series could be Medieval 3, Warhammer 3, Shogun 3, Empire 2, Lord of the Rings Total War? : )
MELKOR Lotr is a really nice idea, I wish this is real 🥺
If they made LOTR total war, then they'd fuck it up big time. I dont think ca is capable of creating fantastical of a game as the mod was.
Viking Total War.
Ok here me out total war: Mongol the biggest most divise world yet
@@theempiredidnothingwrong3227 that sounds interesting but more likely as an expansion for 3 kingdoms. If they even attempt on making a massive world expanding across 3 continents then we'll be facing another buggy, under developed and not finished game. Not to mention the lack of cultural, unit, general diversity. Honestly atm I'm just negative all round towards ca so maybe I'm wrong. Just seems like they've turned into a corporation soly focused on released cheaply produced games at the highest cost to make the most profit, not to mention a million dlcs to "improve" the game. :(
I love the idea as starting with Philip II and uniting Greece, then playing as Alexander mid campaign, and in the late game after his death you can choose what successor state to play as
Yes!
im egypt
or seleucids
Also the tutorial could be Philip's campaign.
I like that idea
@@MelkorGG Thank you! Since Alexander: Total War is such a narrow focus, I hope that the game (if it's made) can bring back eras like in Medieval 1. Early Era (Philip/Tutorial)/Middle Era (Alexander and everyone else/Late Era (Diadochi).
if alexander 2 was to be made it would be a Saga game because of how specific its focus is , with how modern CA seem to work when it come to what is saga and what isnt , it seem like the realistic option they would take
That, I fear to be true. Which is why I hope they really try and expand on it. : )
athomicritics nope, Saga games are for very small areas with events that did not affect the world of the region very much. Alexander’s conquest spread to the borders of modern day India, and he spread Hellenistic culture not only across the Mediterranean, but across most of Asia Minor as well.
"did not affect the world of the region very much."
the fall of the samurais had a gigantic butterfly effect on the future
athomicritics you are thinking of another war, the Boshin war did not have that much of an affect on the world at large nor imperial japan as we know them during WW2. If the samurai had never fell, they most likely would’ve still been kept as an actual job, just without the benefits that they previously held. They probably would’ve been highly trained battlefield commanders used as a showpiece sort’ve like the polish hussars, but the samurai opened a new school of artillery between the Boshin war and the satsuma rebellion, so they could actually be effective on the modern battlefield unlike Calvary which was quickly dying by the time of the polish hussars. Alexander had a lasting impact on the cultures of the regions he conquered, to military tactics, weapons and armor, and basically what any military commander wanted to be. Caesar is the name emperors named themselves upon their coronation, and he is often who we think of when we think of a tyrant or dictator, but Alexander is who we think of when it comes to a conqueror. The phalanx was revolutionized by Alexander, and became the basis for many military formations, such as the pike and shot or shield walls. You can still see examples of Greek architecture across the lands Alexander conquered, and for centuries after his death the Greek style of armor was used across the Mediterranean. Hannibal, probably the only military commander to successfully use Alexander’s phalanx by realizing the main disadvantage of the phalanx was its flanks weren’t protected, and just like Alexander he protected it with javelin throwers. If Alexander wasn’t a great military leader on par if not better than Attila and Napoleon then why is his tactics still taught in military academies today? Saying he didn’t have as much of an impact as the boshin war is not only ignorant, it’s completely false.
I actually read the title and thought “no way, an Alexander campaign would be too linear.” But you’ve convinced me, particularly with expanding the campaign map into India - that would be so interesting. Love the supply system, local units and civil war ideas as well but I doubt ca is brave enough to implement them, unfortunately.
Empire 2, Medieval 3, Warhammer 3, Alexander 2.
This is the way.
I was one of those freaks that liked Empire a lot. Loved the scale of the map and the gunpowder era. Also the research mechanic is something i found interesting.
OMG I would Love an Empire 2!!! It'd be Great to have a Total War game Devoted to 1700 all the way to the 21st Century and Beyond, with all the appropriate Technologies. Instead of just focusing on the 18th Century. It would also be cool to have a Total war game Finely feature Nuclear Weapons too.
@@pepperVenge Well, Total war would still be playable until the 1900s... but sadly later than that it loses the classical total war feel. And standing in line formations with modern rifles isn't a good strategem... 1700-1900 perhaps?
@@conradovillegasalvarado6392 Unless they adopted modern warfare. There's nothing that says Total War has to be Historical. I don't see how it loses anything by going beyond 1900. To me, its about Warfare Simulation, not History.
What Total War is really all about; Use the War Machine better then the other's. But So far, the War machine in Total War has only been the Bow and Arrow, Catapult, Spear, Sward, or Musket.
I'd love to Command Modern Warfare in a Total War Game!
Imagine Commanding Modern Super Carriers, Fighter Jets, Soldiers with Modern Weapons, and see who Comes out on top.
Or even See what would happen if Someone Actually did use a Nuke Aggressively in today's age...
I've Seen other games try to do Modern Warfare in a Command and Conquer style, but they aren't as good or simple as Total War..
Total War is the best.
Thats why I want to see Total War do an Empire 2 taking place from 1700 to well beyond 2000. And have it take place on the Entire World, not just limited Theaters.
@@pepperVenge maybe WW1 but modern warfare wont translate to total war. You should play world in conflict or company of heroes. Its been done before
Marriages with local cultures in areas you have conquered to gain stability and loyalty (and other perks?) but at the cost of dissatisfaction from your subordinate generals/troops or from back home.
"I'm drunk, and therefore I know what I'm doing."
~Commander Pixis 2015
When alexander is killed he gets wounded instead
Diadochi Total War? Heck yes!
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@@blak8228 i was scrolled pass kek
Alexander could fight the famous Indian conqueror who lived after him! Chandragupta and Ashoka the Great!
1. A main campaign as Alexander the Great (and other contemporaries).
2. A sequel campaign as Alexander's successors to re-unite the Empire.
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*points at screen* There I am Gary there I am!
I don't see myself :(
Really like the ideas discussed, especially the eclectic unit types and different scenarios!
Hey my idea got in!
I don't think unit variety would be that big of an issue especially if the regional recruitment system that you suggested is implemented (I will use the Macedonian army as an example since i am more familiar with it but considering the size of the Persian Empire I would be surprised if they also did not posses a large variety of units). Macedonian Armies while phalanx based were still reliant on wide variety of auxiliary troops (e.g. agrarian peltast, Paenonian Cavalry cretan archers etc) and as Alexander moved east he would phase out some of his Hellenic troops with local auxiliaries. The use of special units would be possible as well historically accurate (The Pharsalian Squadron (Thessalian Cavalry) and Royal Squadron (Companion Cavalry) spring to mind). Total variety may actually be a bad thing if taken to far as it would take away from each factions unique flair and streamline battle strategy in multiplayer. As a side note, the old total war system where you did not need a general in the army and there was no army cap needs to make a return. Its more realistic and adds some logistical complexity to the game. Furthermore, it would make the regional recruitment system much more important if it was implemented and feasibly enforce an unconventional army upon the player if they were desperate for troops.
In my opinion the best way it could play out if you play as the Argeads is you begin the campaign as Philip on the map of Troy total war, then if he dies you play as Alexander on the same campaign map as rome total war Alexander (overhauled, of course) and if he dies, you play as one of the diadochi on the full map of the known world at the time (hellenistic world, mediterranean, persia and india (2:58)).
From what I've read about Alexanders campaign, there were far more than just Macedonian Phalanx and Companion Calvary used in his battles. Many Mercenary units made up the rest of his army. He definitely had lite/medium infantry units, along with Mercenary missile units, which was done decently and even encouraged in Rome:Alexander. But could be expanded upon in a new game. Certain areas may yield more effective units. As for the campaign in general, starting as Phillip II would be amazing, and letting us take India and further on would be a dream. Answering the question, what if Alexander didnt stop :p
To me the Persian need a trait of Negative moral for all the units expected the immortals especially Darius lll
It would be cool that you could start with Phillips II in a more diplomatic focused start and later focus More in warfare and Conquest of foreigner lands with his son Alexander
dlc ideas
rise of persia (playing as cyrus and expanding to what persia became)
aftermath of alexanders death (unless addressed in the base game)
story line campaign whereby you follow what alexander did and playout the key battles like in the originals historical battles
The best way to make a hypothetical Alexander 2 have a good unit variety is to just go full historical. The various Persian satraps would have been fighting in their own preferred style with a core of Iranian soldiers. The west coast of Anatolia would be fighting classical style phalanxes supplemented by the various indigenous peoples like the karians who fought as skirmishers. As the player goes eastwards they fight the mountainous hillmen of cappadochia, the old fashioned Assyrian and Babylonian style armies, "bronze age Egypt", the mountains peoples of the caucuses, and finally the Persian heartlands proper with the creme of Iran's finest chariots, archer-spearmen, and the immortals. Persia would need to be represented as the actual persian empire not as the bad guys from 300 with terrible morale, equipment, fighting styles, and "bad archers". Alexander's army needs to be the "Pan-Hellenic" crusade he was talking about with pikemen of various seniority making up the unit roster and when a unit of pikemen reach a certain level of experience they can be upgraded to bronze-shield pikemen and finally the silver-shields. A few "what if" units to flesh out the roster could also be added to give diversity while retaining historical plausibility. The Iphricatean style of phalanx would be a good way to give Macedon a good line infantry that could also give chase, throw javelins, guard the flanks, and lead an assault they should not be good at everything but able to preform those roles in a pinch.
Once you kill Darius, you should be able to "inherit" Achaemenid units and add them to your army.
One of my all time favorite mods for Total War Rome was Diadochi Total War. They included early Rome, Carthage and Epirus along with all of the different Diodochi and even made a difference between the several types of hoplites and phalangites. I played the hell out of that mod before my disk copy was unplayable.
I feel like an accurate map may be a good starting point for Alexander II lol. Plus the option to head west in addition to going east would be cool
How did you give Alexander archers, a mod? The game only had Agrianian Javelinmen and Hypaspists for Macedon?
From what I understand about Persia, a corruption mechanic would be historically accurate
Oh yes, certainly a corruption mechanic : )
They definitely need to change the whole warscape engine. The whole battle system of 1 on 1 kill moves is stupid and doesn’t make sense. Something like shogun 2, they used the warscape engine but changed it enough so it wasn’t unrealistic. They also need to change up the music, bring back Jeff!
I am new over your channel. Been looking for this sort of a video but couldn't find one in your playlist, until now :) For me Alexander had extreme potential, and I was even pumped up when they released Attila, thought "okay standalone Barbarian Invasion, maybe we'll have standalone Alexander. I was disappointed, hope they do release it:)
Welcome : )
And I am sure they will someday. There were rumours a while back that there may be an Alexander game. Some expect it to be the new Saga, but it turned out to be Troy. So hopefully a full Alexander may be coming.
No more heroes in historical total war games
Stainless steel mod has something akin to it that you can recruit only your units in youre culture areas. And when you expand you will have more auxallary units. Quite fun system to play with.
And you wil be mind full to sent cohorts of reforcements to certain frontlines.
Captions at 5:08 “i fart a lot”
Ha ha XD
Those subtitles are a mess : )
I'd love one on the American Civil War
A UK based company making a video game about a controversial and frequently misrepresented event from US history? What could possibly go wrong?! Look away!
@@timothyernst8812 christ on a bike
Lack faction this idea is so boring sorry never gonna happen
You have 2 factions so it would be pretty stale for a total war game, now a total war game set in that time period of the world would interesting. Especially if we include German unification into the mix. So that way I could go screw around during the late 1800s period of the world. Maybe include Meji era Japan as well. So yeah an American civil war game wouldn't be to interesting but a pre WW1 game would be pretty lit.
As long as the macdonians look like the movie Alexander (200$) Im fine. I dare you to show me a cooler looking army than that.
It'd be Great to get a Full map devoted to the 4th Century BC. A Nice Big map too.
They should deliver a chill adventure through Alexander's path of destruction, make the player feel progressively powerful, sorta how you start with 2 cities and little money then to slowly turn into emperor of the world with 3 million denari
add the entire world, so civilizations that aren't supposed to meet encounter each other, don't make it to realistic, make it fun
Add a lot of buildings so cities are complete with variation and mostly important let the player developt their own units, yes alexander fought with phalanx walls, let the player come up with their own units.
it only seem natural that a alexander 2 totalwar should be made since they made attila total war and napoleon totalwar
cmon CA, over powered carthage!
@@aqhat3702 lol
Victoria: Total War?
It would have to be a gobal map to properly represent the conflicts of the era
Closest we’ll get to vic3 :(
I've been wanting Victora Total War for a long time, with a Total War of the Worlds expansion, in which the Martians invade around the 100th turn.
I hope that it will come soon,but tje CA will have to fix their diplomacy first,so we will have to wait for some years
If we think beyond the Total War games, Alexander would be perfect for a game that merges Mount and Blade with Total War. Control Alexander directly as player character and throw yourself into the fight. But with an army as large as the ones in Total War that keeps formations and forms a functioning battle line.
This is the future of total war if they listen to the people, we want to fight first person in a massive battle. The thing is.. it will be unrealistic if you think you are going to be Achilles and kill everyone and not die yourself. There has to be a mix of kingdom come, mount and blade and total war. There must be realism in the fight animations like kingdom come, but yet there must NOT be freedom to roam around while your unit is in formation. There must messenger cavalry units to carry orders throughout the army which takes time. Little things like this. There must be freedom to engage in castle walls archery, lead cavalry charge in formation, be the 3rd or 5th man In the Macedonian phalanx. These little freedoms as first person, yet be able to view from a third person and even eagle eye view. Multiple animations, multiple ways to fight and die and not feel immortal.
Love the idea but I would have thought a standalone Khan total war would be the next best option. From Genghis beginning through to his grandson Kublai and the fracturing of the empire. It would expand from Mongolia to Japan down to Siam and across to the Middle East and North to Novgorod, ending at Vienna in the West. Would be Epic.
Until alexander 2, rome 2 dei's alexander submod will have to do for now
Also Alexander and Darius came to power in the same year. Persia itself would be dealing with a lot of separatist movements like Khabash's rebellion in Egypt and Bessu in Bactria.
Also Khabash according to Wikipedia led an invasion of Kush to the south. This map needs to be large and detailed.
Oh I completely agree. This would be the opportunity to showcase (ironically) the Egypt that CA demonstrated in the first Total War. Give us the classical Egypt we hated though also Khabash's predecessors did use Greek mercenaries. So a traditional Egyptian army with Greek mercenary hoplites.
@@MedjayofFaiyum That's right!
I know! I'm glad that you also appreciate the history as well!
and bring back the total war engine 1 updated, the best ever on history with no glitchess
I think that given the new saga that is coming, we could get saturated of the ancient helenistic and roman worlds. They should do medieval 3 or Empire 2 first, the something like Alexander.
I love those ideas, Alexander 2 Has such huge potentiall to be a great total war
Both the diadochi wars and the feudal structure of medieval 3 could do with the character based diplomacy of three kingdoms
I feel if were to do this you should want to make it focus on the wars between his generals
Since Alexander 1 was really a expansion/dlc for Rome 1 would Alexander 2 make since? I mean there technical never was a Alexander 1 game but only a dlc. I like “Alexander the Great Total War” better than Alexander 2 total war.
It’s like calling Attila. Barbarian Invasion 2
True, that would be much more likely. Despite how good Alexander 2 sounds
Persian bows were superior than most European bows. Cretan archers were not superior
Great video. I was just talking about this not being a DLC. What mode are you showing?
Divide et impera alexander submod
What is the name of the Rome 2 mod you are showing in this video?
It's a SubMod for the Divide et Impera Mod (all 3 parts). Install that. Then install this: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1818310099
And run all 4 subscibed items at the same time. : )
@@MelkorGG Thank you! Nice video btw 👍.
What we really want, is a game about Aqhat the Greatest
CA DO IT!
Haha a what. Anat got your bow
Who
@@goodbanter4427 In the epic of aqhat, he has a magic bow. The war goddess Anat offers to buy it off him, even offering immortality. He refuses to sell, saying women should be in the kitchen. Anat has her henchman yutpan the eagle god take the bow but aqhat is killed and and the bow gets broken.
Medieval 3!
Empire 2 and Medieval 3.
There are so many mods for Rome 2 about Alexander’s conquest. Total War: Alexander would just be attacking Persians for 50% of the campaign.
Wow no shit
Uh Medieval 3 Total War?!? I will pay anything for a medieval 3 game. It will be beautiful!!!
It would be very cool and add replay value if you play as Macedonia and then change to one of the diadochi (Egypt, Macedonia, Epirus, Pontus, Babylon, Bactria etc...).
Or maybe you could control one of the diadochi from the begging and accompany Alexander in his battles microing a wing or type of soldier of his AI controlled army, and then becoming autonomous.
Thanks for putting in my comment
Will shogun 2 tw will be available free on steam or in the official website. Btw sorry for all those comments but I rly want that game
Ok ty
Yep, free on Steam. But that is tomorrow, not today.
@@MedjayofFaiyum ty anyways ^^
@@MelkorGG ty too rly liked today's stream
@@MedjayofFaiyum it says that I have to pay for it bc it says to enter credit card info or paysafe
VERY COOL VIDEO BRO! I LOVE THIS TOTAL WAR VIDEOS !
Tamerlan total war would be awesome
Would be a great expansion/DLC for Rime 2. But I think they are done with the game. Rome 3 production is what they ll do next as far as the time period
They can go back further. But these saga games fall on their faces. I would argue not one of them are worth the money or time
The amount of content in them so so minimal. I personally think it’s been a downhill slide since the release of Rome 2. I love Rome 2...but at the start it was so bad. And even today it lacks units, events, political systems that are unique. Rome 2 was a good start imo. But now they are pumping these games out and they are boring, no real replay ability, mainstreamed, or good lord the “hero” general battles.... these games to me are failing on their faces. They could up graphics, interaction/units in battle, politics, and the most important this...unit variety/unique units. One of the biggest problem is...a faction like Rome gets a great roster while the other factions have 10 units all game. And I believe Rome should have even more units to choose from. The hero/general battles should flat out be chucked out
Not really. I’m looking at Rome 1 with the different things that happen across the map, Attila where’d there are multiple different thing and events happening. Expand on that. And definitely increase all rosters; new units along with a variety. As far as politics...just expand and make them different. Not mainstreamed. Give each faction things that historically made sense. And in Rome we had a great animation when a cav unit/elephant unit crashed into another... things like that should have been in Rome 2.
Also the Attila’s raze animations.
00:42 I saw my comments :) 👍
Damn they should just bring out a general Medieval 3 with new features and new graphics but so that it feels like a worthy successor. Stop limiting the armies as they only exist of 2000 soldiers max anyway and instead give me the opportunity to raise my 300k army as it’s been until Rome 2. I think you should bring those ‚adventures‘ in separate campaigns included in the main game.
Also give us more opportunities to manage cities to get a little simulation touch. I’m still missing the feature of walking into cities as in Mount and Blade and being greeted by your peasants. Would love to be able to take a walk around my palace to have a feeling of how mighty I am or my faction is.
It would just be pike phalanx battles all the time with cav hammer and anvil attacks. I like your alternative though.
No shit dude
I want a Sparta total war with Persian Invasion wars and Macedon vassal of Persia
I'm persian and i really can't wait to play a total war game in that era
@@MedjayofFaiyum that would be awsome :)
I dont want the diadochi to be a expandion but a full on game. Diadochi total war.
It will be great if they added Korea and east China to Shogun 2
100% agree
DEI Alexander mod is good.
The Greeks could rule the world. Alexander did. He took a Greek army to the far Indus. There was nothing left to conquer, the world was his. But Alexander is dead. His empire is gone.
it should be campaign pack in rome ii
Why a DLC? Do it like Napolen with different campaigns.
The rule of this series is to also try and make a profit and act like CA, and I feel they would do that.
@@MelkorGG True, true. But it doesen´t change the fact that it would be a greedy move. Because in the simplest design for the Philipp campaign, they would only need to do a bigger campaignmap of greece, reskin most of the units (a hoplite from Argos, isn´t so different from a hoplite from Thebes, from Phokis, so this would just boil down to optical variations which they, if following your suggestion concerning "special" regional units, would have already made anyway [btw good idea]), only the macedonian early roster would need to be created. But all other armies could be the same since the military didn´t evolved between Philipp and the rise of Alexander. So IF they would go for the simplest design (like they did with Napolen) it would be highwayrobbery to sell this as a DLC. However, IF they would be doing something "crazy" and complex with that era (like the Rome 2 Republic, Peloponnesian War, Aurelian; Attila Charlemagne, Iustinian Era DLC´s), then a DLC would be resonable. But as I said, I can´t see contendwise what should justify a Philipp campaign as an Alexander DLC.
@@MelkorGG After watching your latest vid about the DLC´s I have to correct myself, CA would totally go for a DLC Philipp Campaign. I didn´t knew that the Peninsula Campaign in Napoleon was a DLC (bought the Definitive Edition some years after the release and didn´t payed to much attention to the DLC´s because I was assuming they were all just unit packs).
Cool vid!
Your Pc Setup please
Play my Rise of Alexander mod, friend. Its a really Alexander II.
No, Just No we got a wrath of Sparta Mod and now we get troy, greek is overrepresented! Just make IT a Mod for rome 2
Not a Saga? Probably more interresting Saga than three kingdom, with india and arabia
알렉산더!
how is that different from Rome 2 ? or DEI mod, if you want more "basically the same, but with slightly different stats" units? This game has so much overlap with Rome 2, that you could just extend that map to India, push the start date back a bit to included Philip II, and add a bunch of new units - and there you have it..
instead of spending resource on a dead horse like that, CA should work on the untouched eras like the "pike and shot" era, the bronze age, or the history of China/India/Mesoamerica/... or give us more fantasy title like LoTR, WoW, or Skyrim.. anything but a remake of a recent game..
Fuck your fantasy
I want to roman vs han empire
Can the fighting campaign get better cause Rome 2 and stills were horrible at that. I miss theropod fighting engine all thruway up to Shogun 2 then it went to shit
Med 3 empire 2 shogun 3 rome 3 warhammer never again
Persia İ will invade Greece Alexander the Great hold my pike. After centuries greece: İ will invade The Turks also same story😂
Alexander gets na expansion i got a game. get on my level virgin the great
Alexander was a terrible game. If they're gonna make it a linear experience give it some character.