Piazza Hits UNDO. Front Sight Restructuring Update
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Front Sight's restructuring plan was put on hold, and now they've presented two paths forward for members. Let's discuss it. LEAVE A TIP if you liked this: bit.ly/3HTzq5r
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It's amazing you have the patience to wade through those e-mails!!!
Thank you for the update. I attempt first class November 2021.
I watched all your videos and they really helped me prepare for the four day defensive handgun class.
I’m glad they changed the restructuring plan to something more reasonable.
Thanks Again LBS, for continuing to provide updates regarding Front Sight...
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I just returned from a Front Sight Course today (May 23, 2022) and their policy on ammo was if you bring your own gun you do not have to purchase their ammo. However, if you rent a gun from them you have to buy ammo from them. On the daily fees, so far, my FS Bucks has not been debited.
I wish they would come up with a business model that actually works instead of this benevolent pyramid scheme.
The training was better than ever. Second to none. I just hope it survives.
Thanks for the update. Glad to see that FS turned things around.
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Thanks for the update
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I guess I’ll remain optimistic for the present and continue to monitor the situation.
It is good to hear that was rolled back. I've not heard much complaining about the quality of training from people that have attended, but there are certainly some complaints about business practices. Has this whole thing changed your perception of the place or your willingness to invest more?
Not so much changed as confirmed. Most members I know agree that FS's financial model is unsustainable, and they tend to promise WAY more than they'll ever deliver. We overlook that because we keep getting safe, decent training in a family friendly environment, and it hasn't collapsed... YET. I haven't spent money there in a couple years, and the last time was just a membership transfer fee, and some background checks. Those are nominal expenses though, not really an investment. I can't see myself buying into the Gold Status thing, no.
@@TheLateBoyScout I think that's a sound approach. The old membership system seems a very good deal for those that use it, but personally, I wouldn't feel secure with a lot of cash on account.
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Nice. Good to hear. Just checked and my courses are back in my account.
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Please do more follow up on front sight
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Can you cover the new changes due to the recent bankruptcy. Now with chapter 11 he filed I think new fees are back on again...
I'll look into it. Thanks.
I never got an email from Front Site and I am founding member
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We need an another update!
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I signed up in 2018 because I liked his Vision for the Gun Community here in Nevada... Whether or not it is sustainable is another question... I have yet to take any courses that should be all free to me, (when there are openings), mainly because the only offered 2 and 3 day courses that required you take off a Friday... After the coof hit I kinda thought it would be over for them, but evidently they are still chugging along... No thanks to Anti-Gun business Sysi-Lak no doubt...
I am hoping he is successful because it would be nice to have a gun-type resort as he has planned in my area... We'll see...!
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I’m waiting for future rambling clarification emails. I have a feeling he hasn’t given us all information. I think there will be more “final” emails.
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I am a Front Sight Knight ( private classes ).....and I have known from the beginning that this Front Sight thing is a pyramid scheme, eventually this will fail when people stop buying in. I plan on riding this wave until it will eventually crash into the shore.
I take my Wife and Kids every year and love the training we get, I just don't see the business model they have being sustainable.
Dang, how much that run you?
“Knight” WTF? 😂
Maybe your public objection influenced their reversal
The business model has obviously never passed the smell test, and was unsustainable from the start. If folks were able to benefit from it over the past several years, great! Eventually it *must* fail, and we may be approaching zero-hour. I'm surprised it's lasted as long as it has!
Front Sight is very good training. If you aren't able or willing to pay your OWN way, then don't complain and don't go. To me, the people who were complaining were just wanting free stuff. Front Sight obviously has had a questionable marketing system, but I am forever grateful for the training I have received. The daily fee is NOTHING when compared to other shooting schools.
Its not the point. We purchased memberships under the agreement that we would have lifetime rights to attend all courses for free for life. Unfortunately bought into one of the promotions for thousands and were told we had 80 memberships (also with free courses for life) to transfer at $100 each. Now all that has been thrown out. He changed the rules and failed to fulfill the membership. I truly enjoyed every time I went there for training. The training staff IS the backbone of the facility. And I happen to know that the staff is poorly compensated fro their top notch professional training. Ultimately, its a failure to uphold a contractual agreement!
And BTW been a member since 2013. Have traveled from NJ twelve times between then and 2018 bringing in family and friends. So, been following this saga for almost a decade
Much, much better schools out there than Front Site.
What are your recommendations?
Where?
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@@halwatkins7589 Pat McNamara
Thanks
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The damage is done.
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FS bought by PrairieFire Dec 2022
Wow!
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If you can only spend FS Bucks on what Dr. Piazza says you can spent them on, they're not really yours. Also, there are members with millions of FS credits who could never spend enough at FS to exhaust their credits. And because you can only buy what you need for class, you cannot buy ammo for your family and friends when you go. You gotta keep your eye on the ball with Front Sight "deals."
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What a complete and utter flusterluck! Yesterday I received an email from FS basically saying the whole thing has gone to sh*t. I think I'd rather just attend a school where I pay as I go and skip all the membership, MLM, elitist level crap.
a whole lot of fees? . . . like $500 vs. $2500 for the same course at Gunsite? just get in there, take classes, pay the fees, and be glad there's a place to train out west.
Front Sight does not inspire confidence.
Bring our own ammo reloads included ?
Pains me between my ears…
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Has always seemed like a Ponzie Scheme for wannabe “operators” and legit CREEPS of the gun community to me …
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