It is not his money. Logan talking about this 1 mln which he said he spent but so far we only know that he bought some coin when it was in it's infancy(which I presume was cheap). He didn't pay developers, art was ai made so I don't know why he says he spent 6 months working on it when in reality all was delegated to someone else and all you did was talk about it on some podcast.
@@Domian328 I don’t even understand why Logan thinks “I spent 1 million dollars” helped his argument anyway. Yeah, he spent a million dollars because he thought it would bring him millions more back. It’s not like he was donating it to charity. He was trying to profit off that million
The amount of people ignoring the fact that Destiny gave the worst possible commentary of this is wild 😂 Maybe just used to it by now with all this Factorio going on, I guess.
Bro, the majority of Destiny's content is boring to me. He doesnt do politics anymore, as far as I can tell, he just mires himself in petty and depressing drama that he can milk for a couple months. He is a social invalid, but loves to do whole segments giving people his sage autistic social advice.
Yeah I was honestly expecting him to have a real take on this. It’s disappointing and from his reactions it also feels like he didn’t pay much attention to coffee’s series at all
I love Steven and have for years but im over this factorio BS he cant even focus on his convos he just plays that terrible game only he understands and gives no attention to the people he talks to. It seems like a total lack or respect to his audience and the people he is talking too.
He needs a break it seems tbh and to moderate the discord better while staying away from braindead/bots/crazy/narcissistic people it is getting to him in a way for sure seems depressing to do this the same way while playing factorio everyday for months
he takes Ls, you're probably just are too stupid to properly correct him on things. He used to say that Donald Trump is a self-made billionaire and great at making money even though he files bankruptcy every year. Plus, Destiny just does research when he can so your facebook feed isn't really at the same level of scrunity as a&p.
@@TheKomentor SomeOrdinaryGamers spoke to Zach off camera and was told it was expunged. also all the google searches didn't find this "felony".. beacuse also.. it's not a felony.. it's misdermeaner. It's totally 2 different things.. also you don't seem to have an issue with Logan doxxing someone.
Another important thing found by SomeOrdinaryGamers is that Zach showed proof that the team of 30 engineers was real and the photos shown by Logan are cherrypicked to make it look the other way. We probably won't ever know the full truth about Zach but he does have a case for himself, and Logan did blatantly lied about his character, so it's up to you to decide who you'd rather believe.
Wait, are you telling me that if me and my friends rob a bank and then afterwards they turn their guns on me and steal my share, i'm still guilty of robbing the bank? I'ma move to Romania if that's true.
Honestly his video made some good points even if he did make cringy ad him attacks too, and I was hoping he would expand upon those points in the podcast. That's when tbe real disaster started. The podcast was completely vapid with him and his friends talking in vague platitudes about life's hardships and what higher purpose there might be. Absolutely cringe.
Bruh watching destiny watch this was so annoying cus you can tell he didnt give a fuck lmao like come on man so much stupid shit they said that he just glossed over or didnt address at all 🤣🙄
He’s been doing that SO often since he started getting really into finishing Factorio. Go watch his reaction to “Andrew Tate’s final message” where he literally doesn’t speak and where Andrew spews a bunch of nonsense. Ever since then, Destiny’s been more and more in zombie mode. I can’t wait for his to finish Autistorio already. 🙄
The funniest part of Logs' video is that nearly every criticism he leveled at Coffeezilla was also applicable to himself. He had nothing concrete against the dude to the extent he had to own himself 💀
For real, how could he possibly say Coffee didn't substantiate anything when there's literally hours of footage with recordings, screenshots, logs, leaks proving all of his points. Any defense Logan brought up about not selling was already brought up and proven in Coffee's video. Just straight up propaganda for his audience
So according to Logan, Coffeezilla didn't have an agenda with any of his other videos, but suddenly because Coffee made a video about Logan, Coffee has to be lying and there has to be an agenda. Dude's a joke.
Bruh a hit piece against a much bigger UA-camr is going to make way more views and money. Coffezilla literally already did this when he made those Kurzegezat videos and got exposed for it
@@forzaacmilan36 Ok but calling it a hit piece doesn't make it one. You're parroting an opnio that even Paul would tell you is still speculative. So your premise is an assumption which leaves your conclusion unsupportewd and past behavior does not predict future results. Also 'literally' right there is ridiculoius.
@@forzaacmilan36 Did coffeezilla do that, or coffeebreak? I googled cofeezilla Kurzgesagt, and there's a bunch of hits for coffeebreak doing the exact thing you just said, and none for coffeezilla. I think you got the names mixed up. Edit: nvm, didn't recognize coffeebreak was coffezilla without the beard.
@@RandomPerson-cc9mn it's gotta be coffebreak. This guy is so dumb and actually spreading misinformation , because he couldn't take 20 seconds to type into the search bar of the website he's using to see whether or not what he's saying is actually true.
@Red Kraken Yea exactly. I’m not exactly sure why he even posted this as a video. Doesn’t make any valid points. None at all if I’m honest. He just comes across as a fan. Never mind the rest of the video. “One of the greatest boxers of all time?” That line definitely threw me off.
@@erichooper2794 You should not make fun of someone's grammar when you forgot to start your sentence with a capital, and end with a period. This is a comment section on UA-cam not an English class, people misspell words all the time. Grow up.
He simped for LowTierGod, & even Sneako (to a degree), so obviously attractiveness has something to do w/ it. Destiny's bi, so he's going to be biased, especially when he doesn't really understand the situation, but there's "an attractive guy" involved.
Three robbers, A, B and C rob a bank. They all put the money in one bag. A and B fled with the bag and C got caught by the police. Logan and Mikes brain: "C never robbed the bank, he didnt gain anything"
@@beerleaguebrodeur7724 So after forcefully taking property from the bank, putting it in a bag for others to keep, the bank was then unrobbed by person C?
@@beerleaguebrodeur7724 ok so let’s say I go to the bank hold the everyone at gun point take the money run out the bank when the cops arrive and I’m on the run I drop the money hoping over the a fence at I not a robber now because technically if I don’t go back for that money I leave with nothing?
man sets up a scam but needs other accomplices to do it surprised when accomplices turn on him before he can turn on them and somehow the people looking into this debacle are the guilty party lmao
@@IbrahimTayyabIT If you're trying to put someone down by calling him "random" you're putting yourself down that way as well because you're just as random as he is. We are all random people on the internet.
@@6minecraftenderman Another reason I'm losing interest in this channel. The quality of guests/content. I really don't care to watch/listen to Destiny have bizarre discussions with mentally unstable leftists.
Destiny: we dont have enough evidence about Tate to really make a decision. Destiny after watching Logan give a bunch of unsubstantiated claims to cover his ass and making himself look even worse in the process: I believe every word this man said.
Eh, I think it's fair to say the evidence against Tate is still to be seen, as far as Logan, I think coffee kinda exposed both a pyramid and a attempt to pump and dump crypto...
I like Destiny. But I didn’t like the criticism of Coffezilla. Destiny is essentially a gossip channel. Coffezilla is a real positive force online and in the world. And he did nail down SBF. So chill Destiny your sense of self-importance seems to be getting a bit out of control.
hes always been self-absorbed as fck. streamers are like this in general. destiny is no better, and it seems to me like he has been complacent for a while now, only focusing on the most infotainment content possible, even if we ignore mrgirl and lavlune. Its an unsub for me
someone made his project but better in like a week by himself already, logan is just mad he didnt get to cash out and got scammed before he could do it
It's not necessarily true. There were multiple wallets. And they did involve their relatives & friends.... We just assume that Paul had only one wallet. And if Logan's girlfriend/mom/brother got a few millions, would it be still considered 0 profit?
@@bestdjaf7499 logan almost certainly has multiple wallets, the hard part is always proving the relation. Chances are coffee looked into all the major early sellers and just couldnt find correlations proving the connection and so didnt mention them. Of course, if there was a court case, he would legally have to disclose all his wallets
I honestly cant tell if hes being sarcastic, but Destiny saying that jake paul might be the 2nd best boxer of all time is hands down the most brain dead thing he's ever said
The problem is Logan could and should refund everyone until he has a realistic timeline of when the project would go live again. The issue is that Logan can say for the next decade that it is still in the works and he has not given up and then one day when there is no coffeezilla video calling him out, just go silent and be done with it. As far as I can tell, this is no different than any other rug pull done in the NFT world and Logan has the opposite of a trustworthy history, so the trust me bro its coming falls on deaf ears.
Without coffees video I firmly believe that was the plan. Just stay silent about it, don't update the people in the discord, etc. And then to see him mocking and laughing at the fact that he literally did scam people like ... ✨
Jesus... He just TRULY doesn't comprehend the necessary accountability for this situation. He went radio silent for a dam year, while his fans that bought in slowly lost hope they'd be able to financially recover. Weaponizing silence to avoid public back lash is never the answer. This would be a non issue by now if he was honest from the jump. Legalese my ars.
I gotta say its a little hard to hear how coffeezilla might not be informed enough to be a hard hitting investigator just because Destiny thinks there are some things he could've done better on but hearing a guy with blue hair yell no shot while also not knowing enough to even remember its sbf not sbx while simultaneously criticizing a dude for not knowing enough seems a little too arrogant for my taste. I also have taken a break because its weird for a guy to keep giving dudes on the internet relationship advice when you have a relationship that is barely comparable to 95% of men in the world, I think that might be a little bit of where Aba is coming from when he talked to Destiny about that oh so long ago
yeah i almost died when he said that. im pretty new to the destiny community but im the type of person that unsubs instantly if i ever see that kind of L takes by youtubers/ streamers. but ill give him the benefit of doubt bc im pretty new to the channel.
Nice 50 IQ take there loser. It was a scam that they designed, and wanted to execute, but they DIDN´T GET TO IT IN TIME, because their co-conspirators got to it first, so TECHNICALLY they didn´t scam. That´s what he was saying.
@@watagree his takes are either spot on or just ridiculous. at one point, he was a seemingly logical and reasonable voice to listen to, but nowadays he makes himself look dumb especially in this video
If it was only the first 30 seconds that would be one thing. He does that for 40 minutes straight and then the last 3 contains the actual commentary. Total waste of everyones time.
"When we were in the SPA in QATAR and I saw the PAIN on your face bro" HAHAHAHAHA meanwhile some 28 year old in a studio apartment in Mobile will never own a car now.
It's really weird to me that people will go out of their way to make themselves look like they are in a movie as possible, like if they ultra-emotionalize and dramatize their reactions and actions that they will seem infinitely more sympathetic. "i'm getting emotional" "slid against the fridge" "internally in shambles" none of this feels authentic when he talks about it. this is what I feel goes through his head when defending himself "Ok, we need to, like, say what happened and stuff right? but, like, just in case they don't believe me, I need to add in spicy words and be emotional because emotional people are trustworthy I think" I don't think he really plans it that deeply either, I can't imagine the dude is intelligent enough to really think that far into it. I honestly think he sits down, plans on attempting to refute every point without much thought, and adds in flamboyant flourishes because he's still living in that Disney-era live action show set in his mind or something
He's the same guy having a blast in the japanese forest and mocking italian authorities flying drones over the colosseum. 0 respect and super childish since the beginning.
I understand Destiny is rich and probably doesn't have a reason to be invested in his content anymore, but he has had nothing but garbage content lately. Nothing but having other people's content play in the background while he plays a game no one's invested in. Even his "reactions" to debates he rarely chimes in. I don't even know how they decide what gets on the main channel or his other channels. Him just mindlessly playing Factorio gets on the main channel while some debates and discussions go on the second channel. There's no rhyme or reason. I get that a lot changed since he got banned from Twitch, and now fewer people can talk to him, but it's like he doesn't care anymore. And if he doesn't cool, but I don't think that makes it okay for him to just resort to stealing other people's content for easy profit.
I just don’t get why you would be mad at Coffee here if you’ve truly done nothing wrong. Tbh, if it wasn’t for coffee I would’ve thought it was all Jakes fault so him exposing crypto king and other bad actors took some of the heat off of Jake.
Yeah, ironically, Coffee's video actually made Logan look better out of the whole thing, so it really made no sense why Logan launched all those ad hominems at Coffee. The best thing he could've done was to just ride the wave and blame everything on CyptoKing, Eddie, and the overall mismanagement of the project.
Destiny really can't put down the game for 1 second in order to pay full attention to the conversation. He says "Oou" as if Logan is dropping bombshells
Logan is like the guy who robs a bank with a small team, but after they pull off the caper, Logan gets stiffed because the others on the team are untrustworthy and made off with the loot with him holding the bag.
Out of all of Destiny's takes. Him saying Logan Paul is in top 3 best boxer of all time is the most off planet take I have ever heard. Official record of 0 wins, 1 loss, and 2 draws does not get you on the GOAT list 🤣
@@OneRedKraken agreed. I think destiny wants to keep the door open to possible be on impaulsive if logan doesn't get cancelled. However I believe he is.
We should probably get Marquette from PTSS in on Destiny's stream to help us out how this NFT works. He gave a seminar to me and my buddies about them a while back at this conference. You wouldn't believe what happened in our command line
Its almost as if Logan is doing a caricature of someone apologetic and offended. Somone trying to sound disingenuous would not sound as disingenuous as Logan.
I like how Logan is so stuck on the fact that he wasn't contacted directly until the 3rd time. Isn't it normal for people to contact someone through their manager? Isn't That's the whole point of a manager no?
I am not rich so I dont get Logans mindset but isnt he like... a multi-milionaire? Isnt his image much more important than a couple of dollars which he could make back fast. So, why not just pay his victims the money back since it is his project, or is he just promoting it?
There are people in this world where they have personalities or personality disorders in which they mentally cannot take responsibility and also enjoying scamming others
Crypto king took 6 million from this from what I remember, and I don't recall how much the other people who sold made. So, logan probably doesn't actually have that money, or at the very least he would have to pull out a significant chunk of his personal wallet. But lets say he does have all the money needed. I think guaranteed millions right now and still being in the running for more millions (I highly doubt he'll get cancelled unless the ftc comes after him or something) is gonna be better in a lot of people's minds than a higher chance but still no guarantee of more millions after years of work. Your analysis would only make sense if this was a small sum to him, and the reputation loss was a big hit. I think its the other way around. Its a big sum, his die hard fans will believe he's not a scammer, and a year from now most people won't remember this happened. Or if Logan Paul was a kind person who really cared about his viewers and the guilt was eating at him.
Logan is such a narcissist and bad business-man that he truly doesn't think he deserves to lose anything. He's the commander who ordered the killing but didn't actually do the dirty work, and keeps a clear conscience because of it. He would have to feel guilt to give the money back, and currently he feels like he's the biggest victim here (even though he technically didn't lose money, just didn't make any). It still baffles me how he doesn't think he needed to give the investors an update for over a year though, even with his woe is me mindset.
I think it's ridiculous that Logan would threaten Coffeezilla with defamation. At least there is not a chance that Logan will win. I don't think a single Juror that would disagree with Coffeezilla's statement that Destiny is a girls name.
Maybe I'm just not realizing he's joking, but I really hope Destiny does think Logan is the second greatest boxer of all time. He's not even the best Paul brother when it comes to boxing.
He uses the fact that coffeezilla is taking the word of criminals as a slam. I don’t think he knows that hiring criminals that are guilty of crimes in the crypto/nft space is worse lol
Are we going to conveniently ignore the fact that Destiny put Logan Paul above Mike Tyson, Muhammad Ali, Joe Louis, and Sugar Ray Robinson as one of the greatest boxers ever?
It’s interesting to see him try to make it out like he never planned to make money and manipulate the market. He would of if jake didn’t beat him to the punch. Only then did the rules change.
Logan going with the bully tactic. Coffee says "Lets play the game on a neutral court with no editing so it's fair" and Logan responds with "No I would rather play the game on my court so I can edit it how ever I want and control the narrative". Seems like one person doesn't want the truth and one does to me. Logan lives in his own bubble with yes people and simply doesn't see how bad this looks on him. Take your L Logan. We may have to start calling him Ogan because he took the L. Burn. And with that terrible Boomer Dad joke I am done and am prepared for the dislikes :)
I get that destiny is trying to be sarcastic here, but the whole react seems like an L without giving Coffe any credits. I like the content but this one just rubs me the wrong way.
No bs and no joke....I think Destiny unironically listing Jake Paul as one of the best boxers of all time right after Mayweather NEEDS to be remembered and called out on occasion when it comes validating his word. lol. Jesus christ. Shout out to the dono shortly after telling him to shut up about boxing.
"uh" "oh" "damn" "god" no wonder destiny is the best commentator with hard hitting commentary like this. Atleast the criticims against vaush is he prewatches the videos he comments live. There is no way destiny prewatches anything. XD
@@albertosillywhips7281 How is this a bad take? Literally watch anyone else covering this, and they do 10x better job than Destiny. Even Hasan. It’s sad.
Why would he sue Coffee and not the guys who actually did the scam and tarnished his name? I'm not American so I don't know all that much about suing but surely it would be the proper thing to do unless there were literally no written contracts
Because coffee makes him look bad. He could make the money. If he ruins his image, not so much. People usually forget or dont care tho he shouldn’t be worried, he’s just emotional. If they forgive the forest he can do whatever.
If I rob a bank but drop the money while escaping, it doesn't matter that I made 0 money, I still robbed the bank. Basically just because you got scared by your own team before you could profit off scamming 12 year olds, doesn't mean you didn't scam them, they still lost money to a fraudulent system.
Coffeezilla: You scammed people through your inadequacy as a project manager. What do you have to say to that? LP: Guys software development is really hard :(
Did destiny say LP is a top 3 boxer of all time? I am a new fan of his and I don't think I can take him seriously after that statement. Paul is a surprisingly good boxer for a streamer. He is not top 3000 all time let alone top 3.
To answer your question Destiny: Yes, it was Logan's scam, and just because other people scammed him first doesn't make him not a scammer. He was just the dumbest scammer.
destiny reacting: "OHHHH OHHHHH" ***playing autistorio*** "woooooooow" "oooooooooooh" ***playing autistorio*** "oooooooooooh"
Lmao😂
The whole time I was waiting for the Destiny patented “TRUEEEE!!!!” 😂
“My team and I planned to rob a bank but three members of the team took the plans and did it without us. I’m innocent right?” - Logan
"Your honor. I made no money in this robbery. So I did not commit a robbery." - Logan.
Well technically...
Holy shit lmao
@@touchingisjustthefirststep well technically it’s criminal conspiracy so it’s still a crime lol
@@touchingisjustthefirststep Being an accessory to the crime doesn't make you innocent dumbass.
Logan Paul when he hires criminals and they steal his money: 😮😮
“Why didn’t you do a background check on the guys I didn’t a background check on??”
It is not his money. Logan talking about this 1 mln which he said he spent but so far we only know that he bought some coin when it was in it's infancy(which I presume was cheap). He didn't pay developers, art was ai made so I don't know why he says he spent 6 months working on it when in reality all was delegated to someone else and all you did was talk about it on some podcast.
@@Domian328 I don’t even understand why Logan thinks “I spent 1 million dollars” helped his argument anyway. Yeah, he spent a million dollars because he thought it would bring him millions more back. It’s not like he was donating it to charity. He was trying to profit off that million
Like...HOW COULD THEY!!!!
@@TonyCox1351 it shows commitment??????
The amount of people ignoring the fact that Destiny gave the worst possible commentary of this is wild 😂 Maybe just used to it by now with all this Factorio going on, I guess.
Bro, the majority of Destiny's content is boring to me. He doesnt do politics anymore, as far as I can tell, he just mires himself in petty and depressing drama that he can milk for a couple months. He is a social invalid, but loves to do whole segments giving people his sage autistic social advice.
Yeah bruh im not gonna lie there hasnt been a good video in a while
Yeah I was honestly expecting him to have a real take on this. It’s disappointing and from his reactions it also feels like he didn’t pay much attention to coffee’s series at all
His brain must be fried from a combination of shrooms, Factorio addiction and sperg drama
This is the laziest excuse for content I’ve ever seen.
damn destiny is doing a great job transforming and reacting totally here
OOOOOoooooooOoooOOOOOooooo
Claims should start flying on those react fucks. Destiny doesn't promote but steals by watching high effort video w/ little contribution
@@WagieWagieGetInTheCagie daaaaamnnnnn OOF!
I don’t get it. Break it down for me
@@User45x92 OOOOOOoooo BASED.
For people wanting to see destiny’s actual take 41:30
You're a real one
I love Steven and have for years but im over this factorio BS he cant even focus on his convos he just plays that terrible game only he understands and gives no attention to the people he talks to. It seems like a total lack or respect to his audience and the people he is talking too.
Brainlet
Yeah I agree, I wish he had a more based take on this whole thing. It’s actually a really important topic that he just kinda glanced over
What even is this game he’s playing??
@@pimpmasterkirbo4383 factoral I think
Yeah he's barely commenting on it at all. Lazy
big oof on Destiny showing how little he paid attention to coffeezilla's video.
Getting more and more lazy. Pretty sad
This is some of the laziest content I’ve seen in a long time. I love destiny but he acts brain dead
He needs a break it seems tbh and to moderate the discord better while staying away from braindead/bots/crazy/narcissistic people it is getting to him in a way for sure seems depressing to do this the same way while playing factorio everyday for months
I wish Destiny would just admit when he’s wrong more often. Like he can never take an L
Its so annoying watching destiny go “OOOOhhhhhhh” at the moments logan wants the audience to go “OOOOhhhhhhh”
Dude couldn't take an L if it killed him
Destiny’s content is getting worse and worse every day
he takes Ls, you're probably just are too stupid to properly correct him on things. He used to say that Donald Trump is a self-made billionaire and great at making money even though he files bankruptcy every year. Plus, Destiny just does research when he can so your facebook feed isn't really at the same level of scrunity as a&p.
L comment
I never want to hear streamers talk about the amount of work their job entails ever again after watching this lmao
zachs record was expunged and happened when he was a teenager 20 years ago, not exactly a career criminal.
Whatever you want to believe Zach.
@@TheKomentor yeah bro im zach the crypto dev who uploads counter strike videos made this alt just for this
@@TheKomentor someordinarygamers is the channel that found this out. It's likely true tbh
@@TheKomentor SomeOrdinaryGamers spoke to Zach off camera and was told it was expunged. also all the google searches didn't find this "felony".. beacuse also.. it's not a felony.. it's misdermeaner. It's totally 2 different things.. also you don't seem to have an issue with Logan doxxing someone.
Another important thing found by SomeOrdinaryGamers is that Zach showed proof that the team of 30 engineers was real and the photos shown by Logan are cherrypicked to make it look the other way.
We probably won't ever know the full truth about Zach but he does have a case for himself, and Logan did blatantly lied about his character, so it's up to you to decide who you'd rather believe.
"I wanted to scam but got scammed instead, I'm the real victim here"
Just because the scammers beat you too the bag , it doesn’t disqualify you from running a scam. The manipulating of the market is what did it for me.
Wait, are you telling me that if me and my friends rob a bank and then afterwards they turn their guns on me and steal my share, i'm still guilty of robbing the bank?
I'ma move to Romania if that's true.
@Andreas Hofmann haha, that made me laugh.
For some reason I've imagined Logan and Tate in the same cell haha
@@andreashofmann4556 No obviously ur the victim there.
@@andreashofmann4556 man this comment was 🔥! The best
Destiny want that impaulsive invite so bad
The fact that Logan Paul genuinely believed that his video would make him look better is fucking wild to me.
Narcissism, ya love to see it
being surrounded by yes men tends to do that
Honestly his video made some good points even if he did make cringy ad him attacks too, and I was hoping he would expand upon those points in the podcast. That's when tbe real disaster started. The podcast was completely vapid with him and his friends talking in vague platitudes about life's hardships and what higher purpose there might be. Absolutely cringe.
@@nikkovalidor4890 this. Logan needs someone around to tell him he is acting unethically
I used to have a dog that looked a bit like Logan Paul and so we called him little Logan and would summon him by that name
Bruh watching destiny watch this was so annoying cus you can tell he didnt give a fuck lmao like come on man so much stupid shit they said that he just glossed over or didnt address at all 🤣🙄
Well he doesn't really. He just wanna build a factory, man.
He’s been doing that SO often since he started getting really into finishing Factorio. Go watch his reaction to “Andrew Tate’s final message” where he literally doesn’t speak and where Andrew spews a bunch of nonsense. Ever since then, Destiny’s been more and more in zombie mode. I can’t wait for his to finish Autistorio already. 🙄
@@Observette autistorio 💀💀💀 lmao the man is focused tho i cant blame him.
@@Denamic so why make a video about something you don't care about and barely care to listen to?
@@dahlizz99 It's his job
The funniest part of Logs' video is that nearly every criticism he leveled at Coffeezilla was also applicable to himself. He had nothing concrete against the dude to the extent he had to own himself 💀
please dont humour that forced corny nickname
@@amp4105 I intentionally used it bc it's stupid. Logan isn't nearly as clever as he seems to think he is.
@@thesovgc you can tell no ones ever called him it lmao its like hes coping for not having one in his school years or something
In fact he used what Zilla uncovered and then cried about it.
For real, how could he possibly say Coffee didn't substantiate anything when there's literally hours of footage with recordings, screenshots, logs, leaks proving all of his points. Any defense Logan brought up about not selling was already brought up and proven in Coffee's video. Just straight up propaganda for his audience
So according to Logan, Coffeezilla didn't have an agenda with any of his other videos, but suddenly because Coffee made a video about Logan, Coffee has to be lying and there has to be an agenda. Dude's a joke.
Bruh a hit piece against a much bigger UA-camr is going to make way more views and money. Coffezilla literally already did this when he made those Kurzegezat videos and got exposed for it
@@forzaacmilan36 why would CZ spend time trying to expose smaller persons/channels or enterprises than his own?
@@forzaacmilan36 Ok but calling it a hit piece doesn't make it one. You're parroting an opnio that even Paul would tell you is still speculative. So your premise is an assumption which leaves your conclusion unsupportewd and past behavior does not predict future results. Also 'literally' right there is ridiculoius.
@@forzaacmilan36 Did coffeezilla do that, or coffeebreak? I googled cofeezilla Kurzgesagt, and there's a bunch of hits for coffeebreak doing the exact thing you just said, and none for coffeezilla. I think you got the names mixed up.
Edit: nvm, didn't recognize coffeebreak was coffezilla without the beard.
@@RandomPerson-cc9mn it's gotta be coffebreak. This guy is so dumb and actually spreading misinformation , because he couldn't take 20 seconds to type into the search bar of the website he's using to see whether or not what he's saying is actually true.
Dude is so good at being a scam artist, he even fooled Destiny. 😂
Destiny being a clout shark as usual.
@@camillegauthier621 you edited your comment and still misspelled “clout” lmao
@Red Kraken Yea exactly. I’m not exactly sure why he even posted this as a video. Doesn’t make any valid points. None at all if I’m honest. He just comes across as a fan. Never mind the rest of the video. “One of the greatest boxers of all time?” That line definitely threw me off.
@@erichooper2794 I change it just for you darling.
@@erichooper2794 You should not make fun of someone's grammar when you forgot to start your sentence with a capital, and end with a period. This is a comment section on UA-cam not an English class, people misspell words all the time. Grow up.
Destiny simping for Logan is something I never thought possible
Kinda disappointed with this reaction. Even if he simps for Logan, I'd wish he would make some commentary instead of just laughing.
because he doesnt know anything about crypto, watch someordinarygamers for good takes.
He simped for LowTierGod, & even Sneako (to a degree), so obviously attractiveness has something to do w/ it. Destiny's bi, so he's going to be biased, especially when he doesn't really understand the situation, but there's "an attractive guy" involved.
dude hes farming and trying to annoy chat... he knows his fans and himself like coffee
@@Blackblax bruh
Three robbers, A, B and C rob a bank. They all put the money in one bag. A and B fled with the bag and C got caught by the police.
Logan and Mikes brain: "C never robbed the bank, he didnt gain anything"
@@beerleaguebrodeur7724 So after forcefully taking property from the bank, putting it in a bag for others to keep, the bank was then unrobbed by person C?
@@beerleaguebrodeur7724 A lesser man would quote you and add a 🤓emoji to the end
@@beerleaguebrodeur7724 what??? I lost brain cells😂 what is the definition of robbing a bank?
@@beerleaguebrodeur7724 ok so let’s say I go to the bank hold the everyone at gun point take the money run out the bank when the cops arrive and I’m on the run I drop the money hoping over the a fence at I not a robber now because technically if I don’t go back for that money I leave with nothing?
man sets up a scam
but needs other accomplices to do it
surprised when accomplices turn on him before he can turn on them
and somehow the people looking into this debacle are the guilty party lmao
Logan Paul doesn’t have nearly enough skill points in the gaslighting skill tree for this to have worked.
Everyone with over 6000 followers everytime they get criticized "THEY JUST WANT CLOUT OFF MY NAME"
Ok random 😂
@@IbrahimTayyabIT If you're trying to put someone down by calling him "random" you're putting yourself down that way as well because you're just as random as he is. We are all random people on the internet.
@@IbrahimTayyabIT Ok random 😂
@@IbrahimTayyabIT “ok random” - guy with 1 subscriber
destiny ffs doesnt seem to play attention to what coffee proved or said
This
Yeah I noticed. It's kind of baffling to watch. In fact, I'm losing in interest in this channel.
@@albertosillywhips7281 it's lav and mrgirl all over again
@@6minecraftenderman Another reason I'm losing interest in this channel. The quality of guests/content. I really don't care to watch/listen to Destiny have bizarre discussions with mentally unstable leftists.
@@albertosillywhips7281 destiny needs to realize this could turn his audience againts him.
34:58 did destiny really call Logan Paul top 3 boxers of all time.
Jesus lmao, dude even implied he was on level with mayweather holy shit
@@LegiamasC-OnTwitta I'm upset about how far I had to scroll for comments talking about this, absolutely unhinged to even compare the two
Destiny: we dont have enough evidence about Tate to really make a decision.
Destiny after watching Logan give a bunch of unsubstantiated claims to cover his ass and making himself look even worse in the process: I believe every word this man said.
Eh, I think it's fair to say the evidence against Tate is still to be seen, as far as Logan, I think coffee kinda exposed both a pyramid and a attempt to pump and dump crypto...
Destiny was sarcastic throughout the entire reaction.
I like Destiny. But I didn’t like the criticism of Coffezilla. Destiny is essentially a gossip channel. Coffezilla is a real positive force online and in the world. And he did nail down SBF. So chill Destiny your sense of self-importance seems to be getting a bit out of control.
hes always been self-absorbed as fck. streamers are like this in general. destiny is no better, and it seems to me like he has been complacent for a while now, only focusing on the most infotainment content possible, even if we ignore mrgirl and lavlune. Its an unsub for me
someone made his project but better in like a week by himself already, logan is just mad he didnt get to cash out and got scammed before he could do it
Made it free too as well
It's not necessarily true.
There were multiple wallets.
And they did involve their relatives & friends....
We just assume that Paul had only one wallet.
And if Logan's girlfriend/mom/brother got a few millions, would it be still considered 0 profit?
@@bestdjaf7499 logan almost certainly has multiple wallets, the hard part is always proving the relation. Chances are coffee looked into all the major early sellers and just couldnt find correlations proving the connection and so didnt mention them. Of course, if there was a court case, he would legally have to disclose all his wallets
@@edswangren6479 what does this even mean lol
@@KKris10 they like to swing on Logan’s balls.
I honestly cant tell if hes being sarcastic, but Destiny saying that jake paul might be the 2nd best boxer of all time is hands down the most brain dead thing he's ever said
sounded like sarcasm to me
U can't think he wasn't dicking around
He said logan lol That is way worst because the guy never won a fkn fight.
I'm pretty sure he was joking. Dude doesn't even watch boxing
The problem is Logan could and should refund everyone until he has a realistic timeline of when the project would go live again. The issue is that Logan can say for the next decade that it is still in the works and he has not given up and then one day when there is no coffeezilla video calling him out, just go silent and be done with it. As far as I can tell, this is no different than any other rug pull done in the NFT world and Logan has the opposite of a trustworthy history, so the trust me bro its coming falls on deaf ears.
Without coffees video I firmly believe that was the plan. Just stay silent about it, don't update the people in the discord, etc. And then to see him mocking and laughing at the fact that he literally did scam people like ... ✨
Jesus... He just TRULY doesn't comprehend the necessary accountability for this situation. He went radio silent for a dam year, while his fans that bought in slowly lost hope they'd be able to financially recover. Weaponizing silence to avoid public back lash is never the answer. This would be a non issue by now if he was honest from the jump. Legalese my ars.
I gotta say its a little hard to hear how coffeezilla might not be informed enough to be a hard hitting investigator just because Destiny thinks there are some things he could've done better on but hearing a guy with blue hair yell no shot while also not knowing enough to even remember its sbf not sbx while simultaneously criticizing a dude for not knowing enough seems a little too arrogant for my taste.
I also have taken a break because its weird for a guy to keep giving dudes on the internet relationship advice when you have a relationship that is barely comparable to 95% of men in the world, I think that might be a little bit of where Aba is coming from when he talked to Destiny about that oh so long ago
"Logan Paul didn't make any money so it wasn't really his scam"
Destiny with his 85 IQ takes as usual lmao
Destiny huffed too much blue paint.
"i tried to shoot you in the head, but someone else i am directly affiliated with did it before i could, therefore i did nothing wrong"
yeah i almost died when he said that. im pretty new to the destiny community but im the type of person that unsubs instantly if i ever see that kind of L takes by youtubers/ streamers. but ill give him the benefit of doubt bc im pretty new to the channel.
Nice 50 IQ take there loser.
It was a scam that they designed, and wanted to execute, but they DIDN´T GET TO IT IN TIME, because their co-conspirators got to it first, so TECHNICALLY they didn´t scam. That´s what he was saying.
@@watagree his takes are either spot on or just ridiculous. at one point, he was a seemingly logical and reasonable voice to listen to, but nowadays he makes himself look dumb especially in this video
First 30 seconds "fax, ohhhhhh, ohoho" not worth my time, watch literally anyone else cover this.
he really needs to stop doing that its not even funny ironically anymore its annoying
If it was only the first 30 seconds that would be one thing. He does that for 40 minutes straight and then the last 3 contains the actual commentary. Total waste of everyones time.
"When we were in the SPA in QATAR and I saw the PAIN on your face bro" HAHAHAHAHA meanwhile some 28 year old in a studio apartment in Mobile will never own a car now.
It's really weird to me that people will go out of their way to make themselves look like they are in a movie as possible, like if they ultra-emotionalize and dramatize their reactions and actions that they will seem infinitely more sympathetic.
"i'm getting emotional"
"slid against the fridge"
"internally in shambles"
none of this feels authentic when he talks about it.
this is what I feel goes through his head when defending himself
"Ok, we need to, like, say what happened and stuff right? but, like, just in case they don't believe me, I need to add in spicy words and be emotional because emotional people are trustworthy I think"
I don't think he really plans it that deeply either, I can't imagine the dude is intelligent enough to really think that far into it. I honestly think he sits down, plans on attempting to refute every point without much thought, and adds in flamboyant flourishes because he's still living in that Disney-era live action show set in his mind or something
He's the same guy having a blast in the japanese forest and mocking italian authorities flying drones over the colosseum. 0 respect and super childish since the beginning.
Wait, is Destiny trolling? I mean he can't seriously be on Logan's side...
He doesn’t care about this, sometimes his editor asks him to watch things for content
Dude trolling, he just called Logan top 3 boxer all time
He want the simpaulsive invite
True. Logan Paul makes Jack Dempsey look like a golden glove.
yes, hes trying to annoy chat lol.
I understand Destiny is rich and probably doesn't have a reason to be invested in his content anymore, but he has had nothing but garbage content lately. Nothing but having other people's content play in the background while he plays a game no one's invested in. Even his "reactions" to debates he rarely chimes in. I don't even know how they decide what gets on the main channel or his other channels. Him just mindlessly playing Factorio gets on the main channel while some debates and discussions go on the second channel. There's no rhyme or reason.
I get that a lot changed since he got banned from Twitch, and now fewer people can talk to him, but it's like he doesn't care anymore. And if he doesn't cool, but I don't think that makes it okay for him to just resort to stealing other people's content for easy profit.
I just don’t get why you would be mad at Coffee here if you’ve truly done nothing wrong. Tbh, if it wasn’t for coffee I would’ve thought it was all Jakes fault so him exposing crypto king and other bad actors took some of the heat off of Jake.
You meant Logan. Jake is his brother and not involved in Logan's numerous crypto scams.
@@lissaw4 yea I’m off the goop, thanks for the correction lol.
@@slamscum2786 I’m not saying it takes all the heat off of him, but now we know there’s much more to the story than just Logan bad.
@@austinpickens7611 nah Logan bad
Yeah, ironically, Coffee's video actually made Logan look better out of the whole thing, so it really made no sense why Logan launched all those ad hominems at Coffee. The best thing he could've done was to just ride the wave and blame everything on CyptoKing, Eddie, and the overall mismanagement of the project.
Destiny really can't put down the game for 1 second in order to pay full attention to the conversation. He says "Oou" as if Logan is dropping bombshells
Logan is like the guy who robs a bank with a small team, but after they pull off the caper, Logan gets stiffed because the others on the team are untrustworthy and made off with the loot with him holding the bag.
Yeah, we saw Hasan too.
Replace bank with "group of random investors" and that's literally what happened.
Bro Destiny's reactions could be put in a soundtrack and just played randomly;
"Baaaased"
"hahaha"
"oooo"
"ooof"
"Daaaaamn"
"he mad"
34:50 Destiny confirmed on crack cocaine in this video LMAO
Out of all of Destiny's takes. Him saying Logan Paul is in top 3 best boxer of all time is the most off planet take I have ever heard. Official record of 0 wins, 1 loss, and 2 draws does not get you on the GOAT list 🤣
This was painful, i am not that big into boxing and can name more boxers than destiny.
Destiny be like "OOOOOoooo" lmao
😂😂😂
@@ezziesmash poetic ass disney ass name 🙃
@@amp4105 it's called being hella ass Mexican 🙃
Man I'd love to see Destiny have a convo with CoffeeZilla.
He doesnt like the guy but he will do it to cloud shark.
@@OneRedKraken agreed. I think destiny wants to keep the door open to possible be on impaulsive if logan doesn't get cancelled. However I believe he is.
How many 'unpaid' writers do you think it took to write the Zingers logan paul used in this 'response' video
Gotta give credit to his PR team because they know what they're doing, he should give them a raise.
@@asmbeats5369 how tf do they know what they're doing that was a miserable response
Destiny literally had 0 things of value to say during this
We should probably get Marquette from PTSS in on Destiny's stream to help us out how this NFT works. He gave a seminar to me and my buddies about them a while back at this conference. You wouldn't believe what happened in our command line
ooohhh oooohhhh
ooof
ohohohoooo daaamn
oohhhh
great commentary there, definitely main channel material.
Its almost as if Logan is doing a caricature of someone apologetic and offended. Somone trying to sound disingenuous would not sound as disingenuous as Logan.
I highly recommend MeatCanyon “POV: Logan Paul” video. It’s soooo spot on and hilarious.
lol wtf i just came from that, reminds me of old psychicpebbles animations.
30:03 Destiny: "Give them a Full Refund...oh, JK!"
I think this pretty much sums this entire thing up
Destiny really needs to start trying harder to make this more interesting instead of just saying “oooh!” And “damn!” After everything.
Logan I investigated myself and I found no guilt. Right yes men?
Yes boss you are the best.
this is barely a reaction what the hell... Factorio arc HAS to end
I like how Logan is so stuck on the fact that he wasn't contacted directly until the 3rd time. Isn't it normal for people to contact someone through their manager? Isn't That's the whole point of a manager no?
I am not rich so I dont get Logans mindset but isnt he like... a multi-milionaire? Isnt his image much more important than a couple of dollars which he could make back fast. So, why not just pay his victims the money back since it is his project, or is he just promoting it?
There are people in this world where they have personalities or personality disorders in which they mentally cannot take responsibility and also enjoying scamming others
Crypto king took 6 million from this from what I remember, and I don't recall how much the other people who sold made. So, logan probably doesn't actually have that money, or at the very least he would have to pull out a significant chunk of his personal wallet.
But lets say he does have all the money needed. I think guaranteed millions right now and still being in the running for more millions (I highly doubt he'll get cancelled unless the ftc comes after him or something) is gonna be better in a lot of people's minds than a higher chance but still no guarantee of more millions after years of work.
Your analysis would only make sense if this was a small sum to him, and the reputation loss was a big hit. I think its the other way around. Its a big sum, his die hard fans will believe he's not a scammer, and a year from now most people won't remember this happened. Or if Logan Paul was a kind person who really cared about his viewers and the guilt was eating at him.
Logan is such a narcissist and bad business-man that he truly doesn't think he deserves to lose anything. He's the commander who ordered the killing but didn't actually do the dirty work, and keeps a clear conscience because of it. He would have to feel guilt to give the money back, and currently he feels like he's the biggest victim here (even though he technically didn't lose money, just didn't make any). It still baffles me how he doesn't think he needed to give the investors an update for over a year though, even with his woe is me mindset.
Because he doesnt care about his fans like he claimed. He wouldnt even think of paying them back even if he is more than capable of doing so.
Just proves you didn’t watch any of his 3 part series, saw the receipts to back it up.
I think it's ridiculous that Logan would threaten Coffeezilla with defamation. At least there is not a chance that Logan will win. I don't think a single Juror that would disagree with Coffeezilla's statement that Destiny is a girls name.
See yourself out! **Points his gun at Dude**
Maybe I'm just not realizing he's joking, but I really hope Destiny does think Logan is the second greatest boxer of all time. He's not even the best Paul brother when it comes to boxing.
He uses the fact that coffeezilla is taking the word of criminals as a slam. I don’t think he knows that hiring criminals that are guilty of crimes in the crypto/nft space is worse lol
Destiny is the king of taking the opposite stance as the majority even when the majority is correct.
"Im the biggest fan of Logan because he is one of the best boxer ever"...30 secondes later..."is it jake or logan?"
Are we going to conveniently ignore the fact that Destiny put Logan Paul above Mike Tyson, Muhammad Ali, Joe Louis, and Sugar Ray Robinson as one of the greatest boxers ever?
Love you Destiny but I watched this hoping to hear your commentary on this. You gave us nothing here
Why is destiny reacting so cringely at the Logan pauls response
Low quality reaction, just stream your games then.
It’s interesting to see him try to make it out like he never planned to make money and manipulate the market. He would of if jake didn’t beat him to the punch. Only then did the rules change.
"I'm gonna ask the hard questions" 27:31 bro isn't even asking a question anymore he's just roasting him lol
So basically Logan admits he had criminals in his team and then blames Coffeezilla for it.
When they found out logan broke down on the fridge, yet they were in a spa in qatar. They can't even keep there story straight here. Calling bullshit.
Do not let this kind of videos distract you from more pressing issues, such as Destiny having a girl name. This is a undeniable fact.
We need coffeezilla to do a deep dive into Destiny's name.
@@intermediate212 Please don't give him ideas, I can't handle the cold hard facts.
these* kind or kind of video*
girl's* or girly*
an* undeniable
Hope this helps! 👍
Logan going with the bully tactic. Coffee says "Lets play the game on a neutral court with no editing so it's fair" and Logan responds with "No I would rather play the game on my court so I can edit it how ever I want and control the narrative". Seems like one person doesn't want the truth and one does to me. Logan lives in his own bubble with yes people and simply doesn't see how bad this looks on him. Take your L Logan. We may have to start calling him Ogan because he took the L. Burn. And with that terrible Boomer Dad joke I am done and am prepared for the dislikes :)
Destiny clearly didnt watch Coffeezillas series on this
I get that destiny is trying to be sarcastic here, but the whole react seems like an L without giving Coffe any credits. I like the content but this one just rubs me the wrong way.
Did Destiny just say Logan Paul is a top three boxer of all time??? 🤣🤣😭😭 34:50
Did destiny even watch the entire series? Jesus man is the living embodiment of only listening to one side.
No bs and no joke....I think Destiny unironically listing Jake Paul as one of the best boxers of all time right after Mayweather NEEDS to be remembered and called out on occasion when it comes validating his word. lol. Jesus christ. Shout out to the dono shortly after telling him to shut up about boxing.
I honestly thought the whole video was satire when I heard that
"uh" "oh" "damn" "god" no wonder destiny is the best commentator with hard hitting commentary like this. Atleast the criticims against vaush is he prewatches the videos he comments live. There is no way destiny prewatches anything. XD
The factory isn't building itself.......yet
@@0_oblivion_02 FUCK the factor... yeah, i said it.
Was terrible. Even Hasan did better.
Yeah. This is by far the worst take I've seen.
@@albertosillywhips7281 How is this a bad take? Literally watch anyone else covering this, and they do 10x better job than Destiny. Even Hasan. It’s sad.
If coffeezilla didn’t make that vid he definitely would have gave up on the project lol
Why would he sue Coffee and not the guys who actually did the scam and tarnished his name? I'm not American so I don't know all that much about suing but surely it would be the proper thing to do unless there were literally no written contracts
Because exposing someone working on the same scam as you is pretty much exposing yourself
@@JoeEver123 Won't losing a lawsuit do the same?
Because coffee makes him look bad. He could make the money. If he ruins his image, not so much. People usually forget or dont care tho he shouldn’t be worried, he’s just emotional. If they forgive the forest he can do whatever.
Logan getting scammed off his own scam
Logan:😮
Is destiny trying to get on impaulsive?
If I rob a bank but drop the money while escaping, it doesn't matter that I made 0 money, I still robbed the bank.
Basically just because you got scared by your own team before you could profit off scamming 12 year olds, doesn't mean you didn't scam them, they still lost money to a fraudulent system.
My favorite part was when Destiny reacted
Coffeezilla: You scammed people through your inadequacy as a project manager. What do you have to say to that?
LP: Guys software development is really hard :(
Logan Paul to his team: 🎵 I don't wanna know if you're playing me keep it on the low 🎵🎤 😭
I’m afraid a majority of the people won’t know this reference, but I do👏🙌
@@KarmaticEvolution and I appreciate you and the others❤
It'd be great if Destiny did some work again. Why even upload this?
This is what happens when you’re never forced to take accountability for your actions.
Did destiny say LP is a top 3 boxer of all time? I am a new fan of his and I don't think I can take him seriously after that statement. Paul is a surprisingly good boxer for a streamer. He is not top 3000 all time let alone top 3.
Logan should provide text or emails of him hounding Jeff while he was forced to be silent.
this was embarrasing and cringe AF... " OOOOOOF"
this was what we now know obviously a scam, or am i totally wrong here??
Did the criminals teach him how to build Cryptozoo from the command line
The buck stops with LP. Coffeezilla is right-it’s still his responsibility and his wrongdoing. Classic CEO-blames-employees for terrible organization.
Ah hell yeah been waiting for this coverage
Oh, how disappointed and frustrated you must be lol.
@@lissaw4 Not really? Just listen to while I work.
To answer your question Destiny: Yes, it was Logan's scam, and just because other people scammed him first doesn't make him not a scammer. He was just the dumbest scammer.
Another "Ohhhhhhhhhhh" reaction stream
deep down he’s still the same logan from before, just presents himself maturely but has the same mindset
Hahahahaha. You mean "dances around" instead of "Addresses".