girl i’m with u, i think it’s about sabrina too! ppl like to point out about the two years line but he by the time drivers license dropped (which is roughly 2 years) sab & josh already broke up.. also the therapist line.. the parallel from the tornado warning by sabrina is very blatant!!
this isn't about sabrina, otherwise "two years not even friends" wouldn't make sense. definitely about olivia because summer 2020 to summer 2022 is exactly 2 years, and josh keeps pumping out songs that were written this summer, after the hsmtmts season 3 premiere when josh saw olivia in person for the first time in a long time as a single man, probably resurfacing feelings and prompting him to start writing these songs. enjoy your reaction though!
I still definitely think this is about Sabrina. Because if you think about it Sabrina and him would have broken up around two years ago. Josh said that (without saying names) that him and Olivia broke up way before people think they did. And obviously the Sabrina lyric “when everything went down we’d already broken up” so I think they’d have recently broken up when drivers license was released which would mean the timing makes sense for it to be written about Olivia
@@taya9502 - No it’s not. The song is about Olivia. He wasn’t friends with Olivia for two years. Only Olivia knows him the best. In Drivers license she even says her friends will never know Josh the way she does. In Good 4 U she brings up the therapist she found for Josh. Different literally came out after the premiere of their show. He literally wrote the song after the red carpet. Josh has deep feelings for Olivia.
Yeah this is about Olivia. So is Im Sorry. Sabrina aint very Joshua friendly lately. Also in Vicious she sings "you run to whoever is winning". Sabrina unfollowed him and her sister stopped working with him earlier this year. I think Josh and Olivia def had met way before the premiere of HSMTMTS. Probably before the summer. If you listen to Vicious by Sabrina you can clearly understand its about Joshua.
the line is “2 years not even friends” so he wasn’t friends with this person for 2 years. he and olivia broke up around april 2020 and he and sabrina started dating like may 2020 and broke up sometime last year. my theory is like may of last year since that’s when they stopped interacting on social media but i think they were on and off throughout last year ngl bc her sister worked on doppelgänger with him around january/february this year and then they seen each other at an oscar’s after party and kcas in april. she and olivia seen each other at the met in may and sabrina unfollowed him right after. she released vicious and her album in july and he unfollowed her late july and only her and then the next day did an unfollow spree lmaoo. with her name dropping him recently and josh’s song sshsss which is about her i doubt the love songs are for her. “you talk shit like you always do”… yeah idk or in used to it he said “your the only love i’ve had” and “i won’t admit it’s YOU i miss” plus he also mentored 2 years in im sorry and that song he started writing around 2019-2020. also sabrina’s sister unfollowed in like september. they were on good terms until earlier this year so the timeline for “2 years not even friends” wouldn’t make sense for them tbh. it’s not even 2 years since the drama yet. it also just depends when he wrote this. he wrote wylmn in august and i doubt that’s about sabrina since he fr had just unfollowed her and in sshsss which i mean had to be after the album seems like he wasn’t too happy w her. i also don’t know when he started talking to olivia again. i know she accidentally followed him the first week of july and unfollowed and then the last week of july was the premiere so i mean one can assume they’d been talking. this song talks about getting back w an ex maybe not in a relationship but kissing an ex… i can’t imagine it being about either but idk. we’ll never know. the only ppl in his life from zero years ago are olivia and sab so like obviously it’s about one of them. this song is so confusing i mean there’s no point in analyzing much bc it makes no sense unless he’s been talking to one of them. he’s been on slc since september so this had to have happened before that… interesting is all imma say😭 it just has everybody confused. i guess the good thing about his songs is he’ll give u lyrics u can make about one person but the songs are never direct enough to say “this is 100% about her”. this isn’t even me speculating just more so responding to what u said.
I definitely think this is about Sabrina. Because if you think about it Sabrina and him would have broken up around two years ago. Josh said that (without saying names) that him and Olivia broke up way before people think they did. And obviously the Sabrina lyric “when everything went down we’d already broken up” so I think they’d have recently broken up when drivers license was released which would mean the timing makes sense for it to be written about Olivia I’m the biggest jolivia Stan everrrr but I really don’t think this is about Olivia. He’s thrown hints many times recently that he doesn’t love Olivia like that anymore. For example, him talking about never letting Olivia in again in the Zach sang show and on tik tok when he did the first letter of my soulmate trend and it came up with O he said no haha. I’m sure josh and Olivia are good friends now but I think this song is about Sabrina. The timing works out perfectly, and if you listen to Sabrina’s album it all makes sense, she says that he left and didn’t tell her why and he’s saying my biggest regret was walking away. And then all the other little hints that it’s about Sabrina like the therapist line for example. Okayy that’s all my thoughts sorry for the paragraph lol
this one is def liv. the two years not even friends is after the whole drama whereas josh and sab had to have broken up a year ago and were seen at concerts afterwards together. sab is with dylan so she wouldn’t be with him. and the therapist being olivia found his therapist… olivia said but they don’t know you like i do… space and time needed where clearly sabrina and him are all still very fresh esp with her album. it just all literally points to olivia
it not about olivia, he said "his biggest regret was walking away", and in his song crisis about olivia, he said " weren't you the one who left in the first place" so it probably about sabrina
@@jafaelpetals2022 bruh how you know, also he says "my therapist would kill me" and that " I didn't think you'd kiss me"in this song. and in Sabrina's song tornado warning, she said she" is lying to her therapist and lying that they never kissed"
@@tristanwilson3869- And Olivia said in her Good for you song “I guess that therapist I found for you, she really helped.” The song is about Olivia. It’s so obvious. And he posted the TikTok about the love of his life first initial which was an O for Olivia. He didn’t need to post that. He is still in love with her.
@@jafaelpetals2022 you make a good point, I honestly still think it about Sabrina just cuz in all his new songs and interviews he has said "he will never let you hurt me like you hurt me again" "when I almost died you didn't care at all" but it could Olivia we never know
josh and olivia supposedly broke up in the middle of their relationship. around december 2019 they both were posting breakup sounding songs on instagram at the same time. maybe a coincidence? but i don't think so. do it all again was one of these songs iirc. but then they got back together. but the first time they broke up, my theory is olivia broke it off so that's what josh would be referring to in crisis. he's saying like why paint me as the bad guy when YOU broke up with me in the first place? i'm sure he was the one who left for good though a few months later after they got back together because they were just too toxic together. it's all just a theory though, we don't know and we'll probably never know exactly what went down between them.
girl i’m with u, i think it’s about sabrina too! ppl like to point out about the two years line but he by the time drivers license dropped (which is roughly 2 years) sab & josh already broke up.. also the therapist line.. the parallel from the tornado warning by sabrina is very blatant!!
this isn't about sabrina, otherwise "two years not even friends" wouldn't make sense. definitely about olivia because summer 2020 to summer 2022 is exactly 2 years, and josh keeps pumping out songs that were written this summer, after the hsmtmts season 3 premiere when josh saw olivia in person for the first time in a long time as a single man, probably resurfacing feelings and prompting him to start writing these songs. enjoy your reaction though!
The thing is, is That We just assume thats when they met. I think Josh and Olivia met before the premiere. Just a theory
@@ImperialMJG- No they did not.
@@ImperialMJG i highly doubt they met before then, but you're right that all we can do is assume
I still definitely think this is about Sabrina. Because if you think about it Sabrina and him would have broken up around two years ago. Josh said that (without saying names) that him and Olivia broke up way before people think they did. And obviously the Sabrina lyric “when everything went down we’d already broken up” so I think they’d have recently broken up when drivers license was released which would mean the timing makes sense for it to be written about Olivia
@@taya9502 - No it’s not. The song is about Olivia. He wasn’t friends with Olivia for two years. Only Olivia knows him the best. In Drivers license she even says her friends will never know Josh the way she does. In Good 4 U she brings up the therapist she found for Josh. Different literally came out after the premiere of their show. He literally wrote the song after the red carpet. Josh has deep feelings for Olivia.
Yeah this is about Olivia. So is Im Sorry.
Sabrina aint very Joshua friendly lately. Also in Vicious she sings "you run to whoever is winning". Sabrina unfollowed him and her sister stopped working with him earlier this year.
I think Josh and Olivia def had met way before the premiere of HSMTMTS. Probably before the summer. If you listen to Vicious by Sabrina you can clearly understand its about Joshua.
i still think its about olivia
Love this song, the chorus and the bridge are iconic
Been on repeat
the line is “2 years not even friends” so he wasn’t friends with this person for 2 years. he and olivia broke up around april 2020 and he and sabrina started dating like may 2020 and broke up sometime last year. my theory is like may of last year since that’s when they stopped interacting on social media but i think they were on and off throughout last year ngl bc her sister worked on doppelgänger with him around january/february this year and then they seen each other at an oscar’s after party and kcas in april. she and olivia seen each other at the met in may and sabrina unfollowed him right after. she released vicious and her album in july and he unfollowed her late july and only her and then the next day did an unfollow spree lmaoo. with her name dropping him recently and josh’s song sshsss which is about her i doubt the love songs are for her. “you talk shit like you always do”… yeah idk or in used to it he said “your the only love i’ve had” and “i won’t admit it’s YOU i miss” plus he also mentored 2 years in im sorry and that song he started writing around 2019-2020. also sabrina’s sister unfollowed in like september. they were on good terms until earlier this year so the timeline for “2 years not even friends” wouldn’t make sense for them tbh. it’s not even 2 years since the drama yet. it also just depends when he wrote this. he wrote wylmn in august and i doubt that’s about sabrina since he fr had just unfollowed her and in sshsss which i mean had to be after the album seems like he wasn’t too happy w her. i also don’t know when he started talking to olivia again. i know she accidentally followed him the first week of july and unfollowed and then the last week of july was the premiere so i mean one can assume they’d been talking. this song talks about getting back w an ex maybe not in a relationship but kissing an ex… i can’t imagine it being about either but idk. we’ll never know. the only ppl in his life from zero years ago are olivia and sab so like obviously it’s about one of them. this song is so confusing i mean there’s no point in analyzing much bc it makes no sense unless he’s been talking to one of them. he’s been on slc since september so this had to have happened before that… interesting is all imma say😭 it just has everybody confused. i guess the good thing about his songs is he’ll give u lyrics u can make about one person but the songs are never direct enough to say “this is 100% about her”. this isn’t even me speculating just more so responding to what u said.
I definitely think this is about Sabrina. Because if you think about it Sabrina and him would have broken up around two years ago. Josh said that (without saying names) that him and Olivia broke up way before people think they did. And obviously the Sabrina lyric “when everything went down we’d already broken up” so I think they’d have recently broken up when drivers license was released which would mean the timing makes sense for it to be written about Olivia I’m the biggest jolivia Stan everrrr but I really don’t think this is about Olivia. He’s thrown hints many times recently that he doesn’t love Olivia like that anymore. For example, him talking about never letting Olivia in again in the Zach sang show and on tik tok when he did the first letter of my soulmate trend and it came up with O he said no haha. I’m sure josh and Olivia are good friends now but I think this song is about Sabrina. The timing works out perfectly, and if you listen to Sabrina’s album it all makes sense, she says that he left and didn’t tell her why and he’s saying my biggest regret was walking away. And then all the other little hints that it’s about Sabrina like the therapist line for example. Okayy that’s all my thoughts sorry for the paragraph lol
this one is def liv. the two years not even friends is after the whole drama whereas josh and sab had to have broken up a year ago and were seen at concerts afterwards together. sab is with dylan so she wouldn’t be with him. and the therapist being olivia found his therapist… olivia said but they don’t know you like i do… space and time needed where clearly sabrina and him are all still very fresh esp with her album. it just all literally points to olivia
Not you doing the math 😆 2:00
Maybe just maybe, it’s not even about those 2. Like it could be something totally different
Yeah maybe
it not about olivia, he said "his biggest regret was walking away", and in his song crisis about olivia, he said " weren't you the one who left in the first place" so it probably about sabrina
It’s about Olivia.
@@jafaelpetals2022 bruh how you know, also he says "my therapist would kill me" and that " I didn't think you'd kiss me"in this song. and in Sabrina's song tornado warning, she said she" is lying to her therapist and lying that they never kissed"
@@tristanwilson3869- And Olivia said in her Good for you song “I guess that therapist I found for you, she really helped.” The song is about Olivia. It’s so obvious. And he posted the TikTok about the love of his life first initial which was an O for Olivia. He didn’t need to post that. He is still in love with her.
@@jafaelpetals2022 you make a good point, I honestly still think it about Sabrina just cuz in all his new songs and interviews he has said "he will never let you hurt me like you hurt me again" "when I almost died you didn't care at all" but it could Olivia we never know
josh and olivia supposedly broke up in the middle of their relationship. around december 2019 they both were posting breakup sounding songs on instagram at the same time. maybe a coincidence? but i don't think so. do it all again was one of these songs iirc. but then they got back together. but the first time they broke up, my theory is olivia broke it off so that's what josh would be referring to in crisis. he's saying like why paint me as the bad guy when YOU broke up with me in the first place? i'm sure he was the one who left for good though a few months later after they got back together because they were just too toxic together. it's all just a theory though, we don't know and we'll probably never know exactly what went down between them.
is about olivia