Travis, May I have your personal recommendation. What at home bike do you feel is the closest rated to Peloton without a screen display? I’m looking at tension and sturdiness of the bike. I think I prefer to subscribe to a trainer’s app and watch on tv as I ride. I looking for a bike below $1000. I own a peloton but am doing the 30 day return, two main reasons the handle bars do not move forward and back and spin class selection of music.
Desha Esperon ! I missed your comment and I am so sorry! I just noticed. Hopefully you figured out a great option, but if not, I have videos about the IC4 and Sunny bikes. I would recommend those with the Peloton app (if you enjoyed the peloton experience) Thanks!
I've had my Echelon Bike for several weeks now. No issues. And Echelon does use a wire to connect the bike to the screen now. Initially ordered a Peloton waited 11 weeks for delivery then the day they were supposed to deliver they called and said they couldn't deliver the bike due to inventory problems. That was on January 13 2021. And then they said they couldn't deliver the bike until April 22 2021. I was annoyed but initially agreed to wait. Then for some reason I decided to check their ratings on the Better Business Bureau and they were dismal. I read through some of them and most spoke to the same issue that I had, they sold me a bike that they didn't have. Oh and by the way they had already started taking my money. In any event I ended up cancelling the order and buying the Echelon bike. I saved $1100 by doing so and am very pleased with the performance of it. Hope this helps someone along their way. Cheers.
Great feedback Ken and thank you for sharing! I love posts like this because it does help others make a more informed decision and have more examples to reference. Glad to hear they are using a cable now because that resolves my largest concern. So goo to hear it is working well, you saved money, and... you have it! Have a good one!
I have a gen 1 peloton and learned the hard way that the best option is to buy equipment that uses external tablets. The gen 1 peloton is so laggy that getting through rides is a chore. If you use an external tablet, you can more easily keep it current without spending a ridiculous amount of money. In addition to the peloton I have an echelon rower and love it. I don't feel like using a generic tablet takes away from the experience. I will likely switch to an echelon bike because I tend to like the smaller class sizes echelon has which allows for more interaction with the trainers like you used to get from peloton. I was leaning towards the ex5 since it was their highest end model without a built in display.
I did not realize the gen 1 Peloton was that way! I was on an Echelon ride today and instructor called out and talked to someone for a while about their health plan. Surprised me as you would not get that with Peloton. Not saying it is standard, but gave it that smaller class size feel you mentioned. Hope whatever you end up getting works out perfect for you!
CaitlinAlexis ask customer service if they can send you the newest monitor. I've talked to some Peloton members with a Gen 1 monitor and they said customer service sent them the newest monitor free of charge. For all generations the bikes are the same. The only upgrade was the monitor, it's faster speed. And just so you know currently peloton gen 1 bikes are selling for the same price as a new model because people don't want to wait 8 weeks for the bike. Peloton bikes hold their value.
Watched a ton of your videos before I eventually bought my peloton. This just reinforced the decision as I was initially going to buy an echelon... but ended up splurging on the Peloton. Thank you very much, I really appreciate the genuine reviews and different tips and tricks you provide in your videos. :)
Omg be so happy you got peloton, had echelon bike for 3 months loved it and one day pedal thread stripped going into flywheel no way to replace, imagine shipping it back so heavy !! Loved it but quality isn’t there
I've been researching the echelon for a few now and this is is the first time I've heard about these connectivity problems. Thanks for the balanced review.
Thx for the review. Based in part on your review I bought the Echelon Connect 5s and couldn’t be more pleased. I’m 6’4” and very comfortable. I came from the Expresso (more upright) and this is way more solid.
Great video Travis, I've watched this several times and the same with several of your other bike reviews and found them all very helpful. I definitely think it would be beneficial if you were able to re-visit bikes a year down the line, get the newer/upgraded model, and see whether the initial review still holds mustard or whether issues have been ironed out. Sadly Peloton do not deliver where I live and out of all the bikes you review I think I am limited to Echelon or NordicTrack. I'm drawn to the EX5S but my primary concern is potentially dropping upwards of £1,600+ on something and running in to issues that take weeks or even MONTHS to fix. I expect a lot of your YT community is US based and a lot of the negative reviews across the internet seem to be from US consumers. Hopefully the UK customer service is a step-up, although the real hope would be that Echelon (or anyone I guess) could produce a bike that just... worked...? :D
Thank you Matthew! I just sold my EX5-s (running out of room and want to do more reviews) but I might get the 7 down the road as I agree with you and want to provide updates as they bikes improve. I hope the support is better over there as well. I know I do get comments from time to time with people being frustrated as the lack up support and follow-through. There have been a lot of app updates since I reviewed, so I would hope they have dramatically improved the reliability and platform. Good luck!
I got the Echelon "sport" connect from Walmart and it was on sale for $299!!!! (normally $599 which is not bad) VERY STURDY and rides great. I use the Peloton App $12/mo and free month and the Echelon app for cadence and resistance under "freestyle ride" without a monthly sub. Had it a month and i think its great- have done over 30 Peloton rides and had a month. Lost inches already- feelin good. What a great price considering the website Echelon's are way more expensive. Quiet, super sturdy, and i use the conversion chart for resistance u can find on internet.
Ive had some of the nordictrack ifit stuff. Hated it. The app and software was terrible, very buggy. Many times it took me 15 minutes to start a workout. Build quality seemed suspect and support was a headache. Not to mention that twice it wouldn't take software updates. Peloton software, hardware, design are the rolls royce imo. Not to mention I think their production and instructors are next level. Haven't had any echelon stuff, but I'm all on board with peloton for many reasons. The best workout investment you can make is something that you will use. Peloton gives me that in spades.
@@Jason-zm4xq Echelon workouts are equally as good, at least I think so...in the end though, it's you who has to put the work in. I'm finding that these days I feel that I push myself harder and get the best workouts going at it myself. The instruction guided workouts were good for the first 3-4 months.
Your bike reviews have been so helpful and are definitely steering us towards the Peloton. Thank you so much for these in-depth reviews. Best of all the videos we have checked out!
I ordered my echelon 2 weeks ago and it came 4 days ago. Honey plugin saved me 300 dollars on 1 year, the ex 5s, and shoes and I got the whole package after the honey thing for 1600 delivered. when I put it together there was a weird line down the screen. I sent a picture and a text message to echelon and they overnighted me a new screen with a box to ship this one back in. I have had nothing but a great experience with them so far.
Hey Jay, We have had our Echeleon since January. The bike is solid but the software is not all good. I enjoy live classes but the leaderboard results leave me with plenty of questions. I have tried the "Friends" tab. many times trying to reach out to other riders. I have not had a single reply back. What is you experience?
Just some info for your viewers about my current experience. I purchased the ex7s. Put it together, like you said, simple enough. There are three different cables that hard-wire through the handle bars and come out the front and plug in to the back of the monitor. However, there is still a blue tooth connection because when you turn it on a blue light blinks to pair mode. Everything seemed to be syncing fine, entered a ride and turned resistance knob, the number on the screen increased but not physically easier/harder to pedal. Called support and they sent links to get into admin screens as mentioned in your other comments, but it won't even go into the screen they say it is supposed to so you can make the changes they suggest. I emailed the support person back this morning and got no response today, so I'll try back tomorrow. This is not turning out to be a good experience in my opinion, and judging from the other comments I wonder if I should just return, get my money back, and try for Peleton.
Wow. I am surprised. I really thought they would fix that issue for the next model because it was such a problem for so many people and they don't seem to have a good fix. That is really too bad. Hope it works out Clint but if they can't fix that quickly I would start to get a little nervous. (Being brand new and they can't easy fix an issue known about for a long time)
@@Learnwithtravis Update on my ex7 problem. I got back in touch with support and they were able to determine there was a problem with the bike itself. They sent me another bike, received it within a week and it is working fine so far after about a week's use. Fingers crossed. Told me to put broken bike in the box the new bike came in and return. They emailed me a return shipping label, took to FedEx, they printed out and accepted with no problems, very easy. So if the bike continues to function properly I'm a satisfied customer and would recommend them. I'll update if anything changes.
Your reviews of this bike are spot on! I made the leap and purchased this model after watching this and the "Battle Royal" reviews. The bike quality is very sturdy and it very solid. I was pretty happy with the bike until I came across the dreaded Bluetooth issue. The Bluetooth has been constantly disconnecting from the bike (very annoying). I was hoping this would be fixed by the time I made the purchase last month. Your other comment about the resistance level of the bike is minimal but it left me thinking, "Is this the hardest?" With the rollout of the Peloton Bike+ and the price drop of the older model, I have decided to return this and go with the Peloton (not the Bike+). If I'm spending $2000, I want the equipment to work and not have to "fix" it.
Well, I am happy my review was accurate but sad to hear you dealt with problems. Honestly, I thought they fixed that issue but I am getting comments lately saying they all had issues like this. Too bad because like you said, it seems to be a solid product. Regardless, hope the Peloton works out for you and you love it! Thank you so much Ernest!
Thank you, I really love your review. I've been trying to decide whether to buy the peliton vs the echelon. I'm going to hold off and come back and watch your reviews. I can honestly say that your reviews have been the best. Very thoughtful and honest by far. So, even though I want a bike now, I'm going to hold off and wait for your next review. And then decide. Thanks😊
Thank you so much Lynn! Those are my favorite comments because that is what I am going for! Just trying to share information to help people with their decision! I am about 80 percent done with that video but I just broke my foot! (Sitting at doctor right now) I am hoping to still get the video done soon but I need to roll the bikes around and not sure I can... but I will do everything I can to get that video out ASAP as I am really excited about it too!
Have an Echelon Sport and had a few BT connectivitiy issue but most have been fixed with just resetting the bike. Since it doesn't have a hard wired in screen and I use my iPad Air a good thing is I can cast/mirror the screen onto my Smart TV across the room so much bigger picture and that works well. Also if you have iPad and Iphone or smartphone you can hack and take Peloton classes also using the echelon bike. Peloton classes seem a bit more polished and mature but hope Echelon will catch up! Great review.
Travis, you are RIGHT ON about the issues with the monitor becoming disconnected. I find if I ride the bike just a little on my off-days the connection will hold. I bought in March at start of COVID and still have the issue.
Hey Sara! You might want to give support a call. Going into the "admin view" on the bike and doing a few maintenance steps might be helpful. I know clearing Bluetooth cache has helped others in this exact same situation.
Your video is SO informative and you are so educated. It’s making me think I’ve been mispronouncing the word “Echelon” all this time. 😀 Most everyone else pronounces it with a soft ch sound (sh) but I’m trusting how you say it after watching this video 😍. Great vid!!
Haha. Thank you so much Justin! I have actually never look looked it up so it is possible I have been saying it wrong this whole time! Thank you for the nice comments and hope you have a great day!
You have helped me a lot. I didn't want to spend the extra on the peloton and I don't necessarily care for my nordictrac treadmill, so I was going to try this.
Thank you so much for your videos! It really changed my mine. I was going to buy a NordicTrack CST Fusion with their bike as I wanted to keep the same brands Now I am considering Echelon and Peleton
Just want to mention that there is a great app that allows Echelon owners and most others to use Zwift (and other apps). It's called "qdomyos-zwift". Travis, don't know if this is of interest to you but would make for a great review... Also, great site and reviews
I've had the Echelon ex-5s for a week here's my take: Bike was most likely returned as the weights were missing and the monitor had some light scratches, there is also a sound coming from the flywheel that disappears when peddling backwards (Echelon is sending me a new drive belt), I love that the handlebars are adjustable that alone is enough for me to choose this bike over the Peleton, the videos on the Echelon app are of varying degrees of quality but the screen itself is capable of HD 1080 and the UA-cam videos on it are quite nice, (If you want a better tablet with 4k be prepared to spend $1000 just for that plus the cost of a spin bike), I have no issues with the instructors as compared to those on Peleton (I have the Peleton app running on my Echelon so have been able to compare yes hacked tablet), As one who has been spinning for decades now no one would be disappointed by the quality of the workout on this bike even if they just used the Echelon app. As for the cost of the bike it's justified because as I mentioned earlier large tablets are very expensive and I need the monitor on the bike as there is no place to hang a TV where I have the bike. All in all satisfied with the purchase and best of all it arrived in two days after placing the order the Peleton would have taken three months!
Wow, that is a quick delivery! Glad things are mostly working out and you are happy with it. Very true that the cost of the attached monitors are no joke and are a big part of the overall cost. Hope you continue to enjoy the bike!
This was a really good review. Travis is spot on when it comes to the things that can go wrong which is the Bluetooth controlling the bike connecting to the classes and to your heart monitor. With the Peloton, once you use your Bluetooth headset/heart monitor you are good to go. With the Echelon, I had some issues with connecting my heart rate monitor to the classes and the bike not always connecting to the class once it starts. I recently moved my bike to a different location of the room and since then, I haven’t had this issue so I’m going to assume the Bluetooth on the bike was conflicting with other Bluetooth devices I have in the space I once had the bike in.
Thanks Kim! They have been really pushing updates since I made the video, so they may have introduced some fixes as well. I am noticing a better experience lately as well, so hopefully they are getting this thing dialed in!
@@biancaperez1808 Let me know if you get it to work and what you had to do. I could see moving around the house fixing WIFI problems, but probably not bluetooth unless something nearby was really affecting it. Might have to be a call to Echelon to get their take. Hope it is an easy fix!
LearnWithTravis Definitely did not work unfortunately. I contacted Echelon and they gave me basic troubleshooting instructions to clear the cache. In the mean time I just bought a wahoo cadence sensor and I’m using it with the peloton app. Luckily I didn’t splurge on the higher end models have so I don’t even plug in the bike anymore. I wouldn’t trust their software for now. It seems like you play Russian roulette with their bikes and just hope yours is a good one.
Bianca Perez, I use the wahoo cadence with the Peloton app most of the times too. I am so glad I didn’t spend 2 grand on the Peloton and I actually like that I can adjust the Echelon bike due to my long legs and short torso where I was limited with adjusting the Peloton bike at the gym.
No problem and thanks Chad! Looks like they used a bunch of it. Second time recently this has happened. I will try to be positive and assume my content is good enough it is worth stealing! 😂
Not a one off issue with connectivity. Just got our Echelon Mid January 2021 , having issues as well. Bluetooth to Apple Beats NFG, and internet wireless connection. Wireless Speed test beside unit 75 MBPS. Calling Echelon tech tomorrow hopefully they have a fix!
If you don't mind, let me know what the outcome is. I have not heard the best things about their support in the comments and I am curious how they handle this. Thanks!
@@Learnwithtravis After a bit of unhelpful chatter via messenger with an uninformed agent they sent me a phone number. Within 5 minutes I was talking to a real person who did her best. She must have been a new hire as she was being coached , I heard all the answers twice!! After 90 minutes they said they will be sending me a new tablet. One interesting statement from them was that the unit works off 2.4G wireless network . I have a dual band wireless boost that provides 5 g network as well. Really hoping the tablet is the issue as the bike is solid and the classes we have participated in have been great.
Glad you are at least making progress. Replacing the tablet fixed my S22i and it looks like that is what will fix my Velocore. I don’t think all those components like being shipped. Hope this does the trick!
@@Learnwithtravis We are over 4 weeks for the replacement tablet. Nothing yet. Contacted Echeleon , they have their excuses, They cannot give me any shipping date. We are RETURNING the unit, too bad because the bike is good. Far too many issues with connection, tablet and software.
Just got my EX5S, prior to seeing this video. So far I am happy, though... I purchased a Echelon Armband hear rate monitor and it will not sync. I posted my issue on their Facebook page on a Sunday and was surprised to get a response back. Unfortunately the customer service person on the other end of the chat did not seem to know that the device i had was Echelon branded and told me to push the "pair" button on the side of the device. There is no pair button on the side of the device. I am going to be patient. I think that the enormous number of sales due to COVID have probably been overwhelming. We shall see...
Great to hear it is mostly working out. The HRM should work out and at least you can still work out and enjoy the product in the meantime. Getting the HRM will be a bonus to boost the excitement when it gets fixed (yes, I am an optimist). You are right on about companies being overwhelmed right now.
Hi noticed the rack in the background. I have the same one for years. Went to a local welder and welded on hooks to bench from the front. Looks and works great. Just an idea.
Amazing video! Great insight! Thank you for the great detail. Very helpful. I was in between the Peloton Bike and EX5S. I'm leaning towards the EX5S. Question - does the EX5S allow for casting the screen onto a TV?
Hi Travis, could you check if the Bluetooth issue is resolved and let us know. I wrote the company and said that they updated the software recently and it should be fine now. If it is, I’ll be placing my order soon
I Really appreciate your review. You do a great job of making video personal, trustworthy and easy to follow. I just recently ordered one, the issue was not with the bike and corrected with the update. I noticed your comment regarding the HRM. I would like to know what HRM straps paired with the EX-5s.
Thank you so much for the kind words! I truly appreciate it. I have noticed my EX5s has been much better after the recentl updates so I think you will be happy! As far as HRM, the one linked below is highly used in the Peloton community and what I have. It is fantastic. amzn.to/3kgaREn
I have connection issues as well with the ex4s+ from Costco. It is connected through a DC cable and still has issues staying connected. The cable connection seemed very flimsy and needed to be taped in place to work. After two days, got fed up and returned it to Costco for another one. It had the exact same issues with the plug not staying in the provided tablet so I returned that one as well. Pretty bummed out because the bike itself seemed to be great quality. Not sure if it's worth getting a different model echelon or not.
Such a timely video, I was about to pull the trigger on an Echelon but software problems always give me pause. To my reasoning, if the Echelon took a while for a software engineer to figure out, what will my experience (the average non-techie consumer) be like? No thanks.
You have prob made the right decision. Many software issues . Tech support not helpful. Echeleon is supposed to be sending a replacement tablet. Still waiting ...4 weeks.
This does seem to be a commen response that support is not helpful. That is what I experienced as well. Until I get an impression this is resolved, I would not blame anyone for looking elsewhere.
I’m waiting on your final comparison bc right now I’m torn between the peleton and Nordic track. I’m waiting to see your final video prior to making a purchase
I bought the nordictrack based on Travis’s reviews and comparison with the peloton since I also couldn’t decide between the two. I was able to get the peloton app on the nordictrack without paying the $40 a month so it was the best of both worlds. Plus the swivel screen sold it for me so I can take advantage of the other classes. I just got it but very happy with it so far.
Bethany DeGraff thank you for this info! I’m leaning towards it based on his review for 2 reasons. The lesser cost plus the scenic riding. I think that’s what will ultimately sway me! The only thing he had to say that was somewhat negative was not having clip in pedals and an uncomfortable seat
Marilyn West yes I have loved the scenic rides so far! I use the peloton app for the studio classes but find myself mostly riding the scenic route since they are so good! I also bought Issi clip in pedals on sale from REI and a seat cushion from Amazon. I may switch the seat out at some point but for now it’s fine because I’m recovering from a broken foot so I’m not riding too intensely yet. Also I ordered my bike and it arrived in 11 days and by me the peloton wouldn’t arrive for 11 weeks so that also played a big factor for me.
I’m not sure why you have those problems. I have this bike. I didnt buy peloton because of the add-ones. I ride this bike 60 days a week. I usually use the “free ride” option. Mostly I love the bike. My problem is with their slow customer service. They’ve sold a ton of these bikes. I waited six weeks for delivery.
Good info and thanks Fanne! I received multiple software updates and it has worked much better since. Has been a nice bike which I will cover in my next video! 😀
Another great review- are you getting the new peloton bike to review? I’d love To see if you think it’s Worth the upgrade. Thank you. Love the channel!
Thank you so much Jenny. I really appreciate it! I sure am! I need to check on the delivery. I think it might be coming in this week! You know I will be testing that one out as soon as I get it!
@@Learnwithtravis It's new... The rep I spoke with suggested I watch reviews on UA-cam for the bike, but disregard the video highlighting the connectivity issue because they fixed it, I bet your video caught their attention.
Another great review with lots of helpful info. I don’t care for their ecosystem at all. I’ll stick to Peloton app. I’m considering the Echelon EX15 (Amazon / Sport - Walmart version). Could you please do a review on it vs Peloton? Thanks!
No problem at all and thank you Gayle! I really want to get to the M3i. Honestly, I have a backlog of eight bikes I need to review right now, so it will be a little while. When I get to purchasing my next round to review, that one is on the list to consider.
@@Learnwithtravis Thanks a million Travis..the Keiser M3i will be a super exciting one as this has a totally different design with something like an 8lb flywheel..can't wait, they use this in a LOT of health clubs and is apparently fantastic and low maintenance. Stay safe, Gayle
If you already have a tablet I would get the EX5 instead of the EX5s. It is the same bike but you are paying for the monitor. Save your money and use your tablet.
I agree. I was going to purchase the Peloton when I saw the EX 5 and I didn’t want to wait for the EX5S. This is the one time that being impatient worked out for me. I use an old 73inch Mitsubishi tv that I was going to get rid of to mirror the class on.
Great review. I just purchased this bike. I don't even have it yet. I am 56 years old and weight 270 pounds. I have purchased this to help accomplish my weight loss journey. Question - are there classes that will suit my skill (or lack thereof) level? Or will every class have 20 and 30 year olds wearing 7-11 bike shirts that I won't be able to keep up with?
Thank you William! Naw, you will be able to find options. The Echelon does have a little bit more of a party\club vibe to their content, but they have classes structured for different levels. Also, remember that any rides you do where they say they want you at a certain speed esistance... is just a recommendation. If you need to also be 30 percent lower than what they said, that is absolutely fine. The point is to get on that bike and get exercise which you will be doing even if you are a little slower than them. Hope you love it and it helps you with your goals!
Enjoyed your video. I’m looking at getting the EX5 , the model without the screen so I can use my own tablet rather than a built in display. Aside from the technical connectivity issues, do you remember how the bike was overall aside from that? Was it quality outside of connectivity issues? Feel like it’ll stand up to hours of use from a pure riding/exercise perspective?
Thanks! I thought it was a very solid option. A notch below the Peloton but I am comparing to the best. Resistance was good, stability good, overall quality was good. I was very happy with it and unless you are very specific on how you want something to work, I imagine you would be happy.
Hello Travis! You make great reviews! I was wondering if I could ask you a couple of questions on The EX5 and the Sunny you had reviewed. When doing sprints and general use which one is the most stable? Which one do you think has the most resistance? Thank you!
Thanks P L! In terms of stability, i would say a tie. They both seemed very connected and stable. The EX5s monitor did have a little movement but it was not bad and the Sunny does not have one so I can't flag them for that. As far as resistance, while I loved the Sunny, I will give it to the EX5s. They both had good quality resistance, but the EX5s had more of that top end make you work for it resistance. Hope that helps!
I appreciate the honesty in your reviews about each of these bikes you have been testing - the good and the not so good. How long from order to delivery did it take for you to obtain your Echelon? I ordered the MYX fitness bike in early May and am being told it takes a good 8 weeks to ship & deliver. MYX fitness also has the interactive 22" screen, but unlike the Echelon, it is physically fastened to the bike with a wired connector and still costs less. Hope you review the MYX bike as well.
Thanks Irena! It took roughly 40 days which was a good hunk longer than they said it would be. Congrats on the MYX bike! I have been getting a lot of comments about that bike. It is on my short list of bikes to try and get to! Let me know what you think!
Great review, thanks. I just picked up an EX4s, which appears to be a Costco exclusive model and looks like the EX5s but with a smaller monitor (tablet). I've had it 4 days now and on day 2 I started to experience the tablet shutdown-reboot problem that you describe. I noticed in your later video (Echelon v. NordicTrak v. Peloton) that Echelon got this problem fixed for you. Can you describe what they did? I'm assuming the software is the same on my 4s as the larger tablet on your 5s.
Thanks Ken. It has been a while, but they have a way you can go into admin mode (see android settings). They got me in there and we cleared Bluetooth cache and I might of played around with removing some Bluetooth connection. I then got an update from Echelon and it seemed to be fixed after that. I think if you Google it, you can find how to get into admin mode. You could also call them to get updated instructions and as they may have learned more since then. Good luck!
@@Learnwithtravis Thanks Travis. FWIW, Echelon sent me this link to clear Bluetooth cache on the EX5s. I'm struggling to get it to work, but it may be useful for others. echelonfit.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360055290873-How-to-clear-Bluetooth-cache-on-new-EX5S-tablet
Great review, thanks for posting. I have been looking at the ex5 (non s model) to use my iPad with Apple fitness. Cannot find reviews of that bike anywhere! Wondering if using your own device like that will fix the connectivity issues. I was looking at this vs the Schwinn ic4 as I like the rear flywheel design and the water bottle holders seem better placed. Thoughts?
Thanks Dave! Honestly not sure if the connectivity issues remain with that setup or not. The IC4 is a very good option, especially if you want to use Peloton Digital or other supported apps. I think the EX5 series is a better quality bike (both are great) but I would probably rank the Echelon a little higher. I need to fire up Apple fitness and test that out. Don't know anything about it yet but maybe a video showing which bikes it pairs well with would be helpful?
@@Learnwithtravis thanks for the response. That would be awesome! My thought is that Apple Fitness doesn’t capture that data so it should be fine. I would just use the Apple Watch with the iPad running fitness and then use the Echelon app in free ride mode on phone to get the nerd cycling data that I want. I want to know my cadence, resistance, and my output to see how I might be improving as a rider.
I just bought this bike EX-5S and it is amazing. The assembly went smoothly but had to call the support to setup the app. It seems like they upgraded the monitor. So far great. I am using it everyday and loving it more and more.
Care to share what you did on the backend to fix your connection issue? We're not seeing any sort of light coming from the bike anymore. I've gained access to the Android OS and went through and reset bluetooth cache, storage, toggled bluetooth and wifi on/off etc. Nothing seems to help. The IT guy in me really wants to fix this!
I went into admin mode (google it) and played with the some of the bluetooth settings. It has been a while but I think I disconnected devices and cleared cache. I then did not connect headphones or a HRM after as I got the feeling they were conflicting with the bike pairing.
Good Review - Wish I would have seen this before we bought yesterday! My understanding is that you can also use the Peleton app with this, is that true? Also, it seems like you need to be connected to the app to get the resistance to work, did you have this same experience? Thanks
Thanks Linda! You could make Peloton Digital work but it is not built into the Echelon. You could do a just ride (no instructor) on Echelon and use Peloton Digital on a tablet. As far as changing resistance, I believe the bike just needs power. When you turn the knob, it sends a signal to a motor to adjust resistance, so without power it does not change. Hope that helps and that you love your new bike!
Thanks for this great video! I wish I had seen it before buying the Echelon, which has been soooo glitchy. Every time I log on to a live class, the app fails to read my stats on the leaderboard and I have to sign out and back in several times before it finally clicks into place. I lose about three minutes each time, which means I have to play catchup with everyone who has not been experiencing the issue. Frustrating to say the least. And the customer service was so slow to respond and never came up with a solution (other than to tell me to turn it off and back on again, which didn't really work either). I'm returning the Echelon within the 30-day window and getting a Peloton.
Well, bummed it didn't work out for you and I am very curious as to why Echelon is not getting this fixed. I have had quite a few comments stating problems like this and I can't believe they are not putting everything into getting it fixed. Regardless, glad you are still in the window to get it returned and know what you want. I highly doubt you run into problems with the Peloton. Hope the switch goes well and you love the Peloton Veronica!
Thanks Travis for this detailed review. Me and my wife have gone through a lot of the reviews and the comparisons as they give us a very good information and details and we are trying to make a informed decision on which bike to get. I have a question regarding this Echelon bike, by any means do you know if echelon has fixed the Bluetooth issue with this bike or the newer one EX7s. Also is the review for Echelon EX7s coming soon?
I know I was able to get it fixed, but I have had multiple comments from people saying they are still running into this. So I am not 100 percent sure where this stands but I am a little uneasy based on what I am hearing. I have not ordered the EX7 yet, but knowing me it is only a matter of time!
I probably need to get some Echelon equipment. I do feel like Echelon was a bit behind others but they have had a couple years to improve on that since I last tested.
I have had this bike for 14 months. At first I thought it was not bad at all, and it did the job. Unfortunately I have not been able to ride it for the last 5 months because of ridiculous problems with it. First, the flimsy cable broke and it took 3 months for the Echelon company to send a replacement. When I finally received the replacement, I went to put the pedal back on the bike and the specialty nut was now stripped (from only taking the pedal off one time) and no longer works. (Apparently it is easily stripped). Echelon would not simply send me the nut and can only send me a full replacement pedal (luckily, I have the extended warranty). It has now been another 2 months and I have yet to receive the pedal despite constantly calling. This bike is poorly constructed and the customer service is incredibly slow. Save your money! I would not recommend this bike to anyone.
So sorry to hear what you are dealing with Ronit but thank you for sharing. This helps me understand what is happening out there and also for people looking through the comments before making a purchase. I hope things work out.
Thank you Gary. It has been a while since I was on that bike, so I am not 100 percent sure. I feel like you may have been able to but you could not see current settings, but honestly not 100 percent sure.
I really appreciate the review and I’m also looking forward to the future review! Quick question, do you think the EX-3 with utilizing the peloton app would work? Thanks for the great info!
Honestly, not 100 percent sure. I have not tested that model so I don't know how changing resistance works. Do you need to be on the Echelon app to see and know resistance? Also, I am guessing (could be wrong) that the Echelon brand cadence sensor does not share to Peloton Digital. I might try to get this model down the road a little bit so I can play with things like this... but in the mean-time, sorry I can't be more specific.
LearnWithTravis I really appreciate the quick response! I’m just trying to find a bike that I can use the Peloton app with and not have to spend a ton of money. I just found your page and love what I’m seeing so far!
No problem! If you are not sold on Echelon and want Peloton digital options, the IC4 or Sunny bikes make great options. I have videos about that too! 😀
Yes you can and there are many who have done exactly that on youtube. Of course if you don't have a tablet figure that in to your budget and you'll need a cellphone if you want some stats and a 13 dollar a month subscription to peleton.
I’ve had my echelon for a couple of years and I still have a hard time connecting the bike to my app. Every time. I’ve had workouts stop in the middle and not be able to finish. They have always had technology problems. The main thing I have a problem with is my knee always hits the resistance knob when I’m standing and changes the resistance because it moves when you barely touch it. Does the Peloton do this? If anyone is trying to decide between the two bikes, all I can say is if you can afford the Peloton, buy the Peloton.
Great feedback Teaeli! I know people do the knee thing with the Peloton too, which usually is a reminder that you are not in a good position (if you knees are going that far in). The advantage of the Peloton is that is does not make a big different in resistance and you can easily fix it. I noticed the Echelon has a bit of a delay while the motor adjusts resistance and correcting resistance can get a little annoying.
This is on sale right now for $550, and the Studio Bike Pro 22 is $600. Which is better since they're essentially the same price with the same size screen?
@@Learnwithtravis I ended up ordering the Studio Pro 20. I figure for $600 I can't go wrong, and if I don't like the feel of it (like it's not stable/quality enough), I'll get a lightly used M3i here locally for like $700 and use a tablet for content.
Hey thanks Travis for a really good review...quick question...can you measure the max height setting on the handlebars and tell me the height from the floor to the handlebar? preferably the handlebar that is closest to the body. I am 6'1" but have a 35" inseam and therefore the seat needs to be really high but my problem with the Peloton is the handlebar, max height, isn't tall enough for me to ride a bit more upright. I'm going to return the Peloton and am hoping the Echelon has a max height adjustment that is better (in addition to the more v style frame).
I'm so sorry I missed this one! Just grabbed the tape measure and it looks like the front (lowest part) is in that 42 to 43 inch range. Hope that helps!
Think I'm going to go with this one. The goods of pelaton for a fraction of the price. And since I'm just getting into indoor biking I'm okay with the poor man version
No different than the pelaton. Pelaton customer service blows. It’s just a slight different than the pelaton. I’m an avid rider and if I had to choose I would chose the echelon. But still a great review thanks
Hey Travis, thank you for the videos. Was curious if you have any opinions on rear driver bikes vs front drive? Anything you've learned or heard that would give one an advantage over the other?
Thanks Rob! Honestly no. I have not felt a major different between the two and I think it comes down more to the bike itself than front or rear drive structure.
It has been a long time but I believe I went into the android OS and cleared Bluetooth cache and maybe cleared another thing. Set back up and it worked after that.
Thank you for your video! Do you still have the echelon? are you having other problems? I have a problem with the resistance cord, and have no idea how to change it, and can't find a video on how to change it, and was hoping you could help if you are experiencing the same issue!
My pleasure and I do. I honestly have not rode it in a while as I have been testing other bikes but last I new they had fixed the problem on my bike. I have not had to replace any cables so I don't have any great tips there. Sorry and good luck!
Thank! No, but I want to! That one is on my short list to get. Probably a few months out but I do hope to get to it! The people that have commented about it seem to really like it!
Hi Travis, thank you so much for the review. I went ahead and purchased the Echelon based on your review and others and generally am very happy. The one thing that I'm not sure of is a design flaw or perhaps I have a bad bike. I don't feel any resistance until I get to about 16-18 on the resistance dial. Is that your experience or should I seek to replace the bike? Can't really get a straight answer from Echelon. I don't think the people in customer service have ever ridden the bike. What was your experience relative to where you start to feel the resistance catch? At what number do you feel the resistance. Doesn't make sense to me to have a scale from 1-32 when you can't feel any change until about 16.
Hey Chris, glad to hear it is working out well! Honestly, I had the same exact experience. I remember thinking that a good hunk of the "resistance range" was wasted because I did not feel anything until roughly where you mentioned you noticed the resistance coming in. After testing for a while, I found their to be enough workable resistance range to still be able to dial in what I wanted and make minor adjustments so I think it was just fine. Honestly, this is how other options work as well. The range for a Peloton is 0 - 100 and you don't really feel much until 25 -30.
@@Learnwithtravis Thank you Travis you just saved me a bunch of wasted time trying to pack up the bike, reassemble a new one only to find out it was working properly all along. I completely agree with you that there still is plenty of range to work with despite no changes from 1-16. Thx!
I really appreciated you comments on the hardwire Peloton vs the wireless connection on the Echelon. I also saw your Nordictrack review and that was fine but it still looks like the Peloton is the bike for me. I do need some guidance Covid-19 has shutdown my gym I have not been on a bike for 120 days and I was a 6 day a week spinner. Quick questions: what about mixing in no instructors or scenic rides just an old school kick your own ass with my spotify music ride? Is that something you do in your workouts or do you always use the online rides? I am 61 and have now lost all my fitness and put on 15 Lbs since March, I need to do something and here in NJ no gyms any time soon. Any advice would be appreciated. Your channel is well done and I am now a fan. Thanks
Thank you so much Bill! Really appreciate the kind words! I enjoy mixing it up kind of like you mentioned. When I want to get a great workout in, I do something instructor led. Sometimes I want to do my own thing at my own pace and I really enjoy listening to a podcast or watching educational UA-cam videos (my version of scenic rides). The major bikes all have either scenic or just rides modes where you can do your own thing and it works great as it is still displays stats for you to see what you are doing. Hang in there Bill! I know these are tough times and we all have been forced away from many things we enjoy. Hopefully things start to return to normal not too far out.
@@Learnwithtravis I ordered the Peloton today with delivery 09/03 so I am on the road to getting back what I lost. Your eval of the Echelon sold me on the Peloton. Thanks for a great review you nailed it. Thanks
So do I have to have the bike hooked up to Bluetooth so the adjuster will work the tension adjuster. Because I tried to adjust it manually and does not seem to work
I don’t have that model anymore so going off memory. I don’t think so but it does need to be plugged in and maybe in a ride. Sorry, been a while since I was on that bike. I do think you need to turn it a bit before you notice it.
I have a question. I have literally sat watching all your vids and they are great. But I am left with one question. I like the sunny bike that you reviewed about, but I am wondering about the resistant/level. How can I sync that to the app or have it digital so that I can be on the same number as the instructors. I don’t want to get a bike with the monitor, you being in the computer world know that those things are like buying a all in one computer...it’s just not good. So, I want to have the full experience with out breaking the bank or buying the monitor with the bike. I am sorry for the silly question, I am completely new to the bike world. Please help :)
All good! I honestly have not come across a good way to add a resistance display to a bike that does not have it. As they are magnetic and resistance is based off of how close you move the magnet to the flywheel, I don't think their is a good aftermarket way to sensor resistance. The IC4 has it built in and may be worth considering. As far as Sunny, most turn it to 0 resistance and then count how many half turns it takes to get to full resistance. That way they know how much they are changing when riding and can keep a mental tab on where they are at. After a while, you can tell by feel as well. Sorry, not the best answer, but that is what most people do and most have been fine with that option. Would be nice if more resistance display options were available!
LearnWithTravis no need to apologize, you have no idea how thankful I am of your reviews. So, being that I am a newbie and don’t know much..I went the safer route and bought the IC4. The downside is that it currently takes SIXTY days to arrive (yep, 60 days). Do you recommend any shoes to go with that bike? I don’t think you have a video on that but if you do I missed it. Once again, thank you for taking the time to make the video and reply. I appreciate it very much!
No problem at all and glad to help! Going off memory, I believe that bike uses spd cleats. So you would need to get spin shoes that are spd compatible with spd cleats (super common). Shimano are a common brand people like but there a lot of good options! Congrats and hope it comes in sooner than later.
LearnWithTravis thank you! You are the best!!!!!!! I hope it does too, I keep checking 😂 I am excited for the solution to my work out problem, I have children and going to the gym is almost next to impossible. I am glad you made these reviews, they have been very helpful. Once again thank you!!!!
So I am running into the problem of the bike disconnecting. I called customer support and she said it had to be escalated and that I will get a call in a few days. Can you show us how you got into the different screens to make it work? Or share the steps.
Sorry to hear you are running into problems. I am surprised they have not figured out how to get this fixed for people yet. I get nervous providing advanced steps because I don't want anyone to make their bike worse and sometimes it is better to let support do their thing. But the link below describes how I got into admin mode. I believe they had me try the steps in this document. I also went into bluetooth and cleared the cache. I might of turned bluetooth off and back on as well. I honestly can't remember exactly what I did, but this should send you in the right direction. Hang in there. Hope you get it fixed soon and problems are all behind you. echelonfit.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360050715894-I-am-stuck-on-the-Who-is-riding-page-on-EX5S
Thanks for the review it was excellent, I am watching this post purchase and have been riding the dickens ot of my echalon. I haven't encountered any of the software problems that you spoke of, also I believe that they removed the bluetooth option as during my install, i was connecting a cable from my bike to the monitor so I am thinking they switched to a hard wire. I am noticing some creaking in the pedal arms when I stand to ride (may just be as I am pretty heavy) but was wondering if you had encountered any of these at all on stand up portions? Thanks again!
Thank you so much and glad it is working out so well! That is nice if they switched the design to hardwired! I don't remember hearing any creaking. Might want to reach out to them as maybe tightening it down may help?
Brand new, they are 599. So unless it is still in the box unused, I honestly would expect a better price. I would also check out how old it is (they have been making them for a while) and see if you can do a test ride on it before you accept it.
Well I got the real poor man's version the Echelon Connect Sport from Walmart and all was good until 2 months later! Turned into junk! The pedals got all wonky and the seat adjustments were garbage. I had black and silver all over my floor and the seat kept moving back and forth even after tightening it . Walmart us taking it back.
So sorry to hear that but thank you for the great feedback Evil Queen. I have that one still in box waiting for a review so your feedback will help me to know what to look for. Glad to hear Walmart did take it back.
Sadly I just received an EX5s and had exactly the same problem with the bluetooth. Like you I thought it would be sorted by now, but clearly there are either faulty bluetooth chips out there or they have limitations with being to update the software. I also had a dead pixel on the screen, which I was willing to look past, but with the bluetooth issue it's going back. Over to Peloton I go!
Sorry you ran into that. But… honestly, I think you be much happier with a Peloton over Echelon. Probably a good thing in the long run! Hope you love it!
I own a Peloton and I love it but I want to add a bike to our summer home. I thought with my existing Peloton app subscription I would be a little less price aggressive. I'd love to get the IC4 but the wait time is the full summer so that's out. I've narrowed it to the Echelon EX3 or the Sunny with the tablet holder built in. Want to help me with a decision? Thank you
I would go with a nice Sunny model myself. Basically because you already pay the Peloton subscription and the Echelon would mean another subscription. Plus the Sunny bikes are should be great as a secondary option.
I just got my EX5S and not only did it have bluetooth issues...the resistance knob I think is not synching properly as well. The resistance on 1 feels like it is already on 20. I tried everything even updating app through a USB etc etc. Echelon is sending me a replacement but I'm bummed out as well cuz I spent over a month and a half already waiting on this bike
Sorry to hear that Rudy806. I hope they get you a new bike quick and all goes well. Regardless, thank you for sharing so others can learn from your experience.
I don't have that bike anymore but I believe it had a little bit of play in it. Probably a little more than the other high end bikes but I also put a lot of force into it. I am big and top heavy so I really put those handlebars to the test. I am guessing it would be perfectly fine for most people.
Good call. They are booth good options. The IC4 is the more flexible option where the EX5 is maybe a little bit better bike but tied more to the Echelon system.
I like my spin bike, just got off it from a short session (freestyle while I watch Star Trek on Netflix). But I have a 3 yr old grand-nephew who likes to get on the bike and stand on the pedals and turn them. There is a very serious pinch hazard in the design of this bike--the pedal bolt sticks out nearly an inch after it goes through the crank! There is no reason for this. If a kid slipped and got his foot caught in there it could seriously tear up his ankle. Echelon needs to do a recall and send out pedals that don't stick out.
Travis, the console on the EX5s... is that just a buffed up android tablet? If so, is that the only difference between the 5 and the 5S? In other words, should we have issues with the included monitor/tablet could we get by with a handheld tablet until a new console is sent? Just wondering, as that would also open the door to getting admin access and installing netflix or audible.
I believe that is the only difference. I am pretty sure it is a beefed up Android, but that is basically what they all do. I believe it is build a little different to secure to the bike better and it is a really big screen (Compared to a tablet). You can use admin mode to exit and get out of Echelon software, but I have not played with doing anything special. Hope that helps!
It's a Neb-215 made by Glorystar. It's a commercial grade Android tablet, 10,000 hour screen life, drop tested, designed for use in commercial kiosks. They sell for ~$750 on Amazon. www.glorystartouch.com/product/Kiosk-Tablet/NEB-215. ua-cam.com/video/DidUhPHNlWA/v-deo.html
I just received my Echelon EX5s today and I'm having bluetooth issues as well. It seems that bluetooth is disabled but it wont enable it. It will not connect to the bike because it is disabled but I have not found a way to get this to work. I'm now waiting for support to get back with me in 24-48 hours. A little bummed.
That would be a bummer. I know the excitement of wanting to start using a new toy right away and not being able to. Good news is I think support should be able to work this out. Between updates and using the admin mode to clear cache and other OS level items, I am guessing they will get you fixed quick. Hang in there Jaimy!
New Channel (Mastering UA-cam): ua-cam.com/channels/cBsqGMM8mpbOnMhsuI4PlA.html
Travis, May I have your personal recommendation. What at home bike do you feel is the closest rated to Peloton without a screen display? I’m looking at tension and sturdiness of the bike. I think I prefer to subscribe to a trainer’s app and watch on tv as I ride. I looking for a bike below $1000. I own a peloton but am doing the 30 day return, two main reasons the handle bars do not move forward and back and spin class selection of music.
Desha Esperon ! I missed your comment and I am so sorry! I just noticed. Hopefully you figured out a great option, but if not, I have videos about the IC4 and Sunny bikes. I would recommend those with the Peloton app (if you enjoyed the peloton experience) Thanks!
I've had my Echelon Bike for several weeks now. No issues. And Echelon does use a wire to connect the bike to the screen now. Initially ordered a Peloton waited 11 weeks for delivery then the day they were supposed to deliver they called and said they couldn't deliver the bike due to inventory problems. That was on January 13 2021. And then they said they couldn't deliver the bike until April 22 2021. I was annoyed but initially agreed to wait. Then for some reason I decided to check their ratings on the Better Business Bureau and they were dismal. I read through some of them and most spoke to the same issue that I had, they sold me a bike that they didn't have. Oh and by the way they had already started taking my money. In any event I ended up cancelling the order and buying the Echelon bike. I saved $1100 by doing so and am very pleased with the performance of it. Hope this helps someone along their way. Cheers.
Great feedback Ken and thank you for sharing! I love posts like this because it does help others make a more informed decision and have more examples to reference. Glad to hear they are using a cable now because that resolves my largest concern. So goo to hear it is working well, you saved money, and... you have it! Have a good one!
Which bike did you choose?
Similar experience though I didn’t sign up. Peloton wanted my money now - all of it but it was a 12 weeks wait. I consider that unethical personally.
I have a gen 1 peloton and learned the hard way that the best option is to buy equipment that uses external tablets. The gen 1 peloton is so laggy that getting through rides is a chore. If you use an external tablet, you can more easily keep it current without spending a ridiculous amount of money.
In addition to the peloton I have an echelon rower and love it. I don't feel like using a generic tablet takes away from the experience. I will likely switch to an echelon bike because I tend to like the smaller class sizes echelon has which allows for more interaction with the trainers like you used to get from peloton. I was leaning towards the ex5 since it was their highest end model without a built in display.
I did not realize the gen 1 Peloton was that way! I was on an Echelon ride today and instructor called out and talked to someone for a while about their health plan. Surprised me as you would not get that with Peloton. Not saying it is standard, but gave it that smaller class size feel you mentioned. Hope whatever you end up getting works out perfect for you!
CaitlinAlexis ask customer service if they can send you the newest monitor. I've talked to some Peloton members with a Gen 1 monitor and they said customer service sent them the newest monitor free of charge. For all generations the bikes are the same. The only upgrade was the monitor, it's faster speed. And just so you know currently peloton gen 1 bikes are selling for the same price as a new model because people don't want to wait 8 weeks for the bike. Peloton bikes hold their value.
Watched a ton of your videos before I eventually bought my peloton. This just reinforced the decision as I was initially going to buy an echelon... but ended up splurging on the Peloton. Thank you very much, I really appreciate the genuine reviews and different tips and tricks you provide in your videos. :)
Thank you so much and glad to hear the videos helped Vanessa! Hope the Peloton is working out great for you!
Omg be so happy you got peloton, had echelon bike for 3 months loved it and one day pedal thread stripped going into flywheel no way to replace, imagine shipping it back so heavy !! Loved it but quality isn’t there
I've been researching the echelon for a few now and this is is the first time I've heard about these connectivity problems. Thanks for the balanced review.
My pleasure! Good luck with your decision and hope whatever you get works out perfect!
Thx for the review. Based in part on your review I bought the Echelon Connect 5s and couldn’t be more pleased.
I’m 6’4” and very comfortable. I came from the Expresso (more upright) and this is way more solid.
Great to hear! Thank you and hope it keeps working out great wonderfully!
Great video Travis, I've watched this several times and the same with several of your other bike reviews and found them all very helpful. I definitely think it would be beneficial if you were able to re-visit bikes a year down the line, get the newer/upgraded model, and see whether the initial review still holds mustard or whether issues have been ironed out. Sadly Peloton do not deliver where I live and out of all the bikes you review I think I am limited to Echelon or NordicTrack. I'm drawn to the EX5S but my primary concern is potentially dropping upwards of £1,600+ on something and running in to issues that take weeks or even MONTHS to fix.
I expect a lot of your YT community is US based and a lot of the negative reviews across the internet seem to be from US consumers. Hopefully the UK customer service is a step-up, although the real hope would be that Echelon (or anyone I guess) could produce a bike that just... worked...? :D
Thank you Matthew! I just sold my EX5-s (running out of room and want to do more reviews) but I might get the 7 down the road as I agree with you and want to provide updates as they bikes improve. I hope the support is better over there as well. I know I do get comments from time to time with people being frustrated as the lack up support and follow-through. There have been a lot of app updates since I reviewed, so I would hope they have dramatically improved the reliability and platform. Good luck!
I got the Echelon "sport" connect from Walmart and it was on sale for $299!!!! (normally $599 which is not bad) VERY STURDY and rides great. I use the Peloton App $12/mo and free month and the Echelon app for cadence and resistance under "freestyle ride" without a monthly sub. Had it a month and i think its great- have done over 30 Peloton rides and had a month. Lost inches already- feelin good. What a great price considering the website Echelon's are way more expensive. Quiet, super sturdy, and i use the conversion chart for resistance u can find on internet.
Awesome! What a deal! I have that one still in the box waiting to review it so great to hear you are having a good experience! Thanks LL!
Appreciate your review. I can’t wait for the Peloton vs Nordictrack vs Echelon bike review.
Thanks Troy! Have a little family vacation and then I am going to put a little more time into each bike. After that, I will be on to the video!
I’m really curious about this aswell. Staying tuned for this...
Ive had some of the nordictrack ifit stuff. Hated it. The app and software was terrible, very buggy. Many times it took me 15 minutes to start a workout. Build quality seemed suspect and support was a headache. Not to mention that twice it wouldn't take software updates. Peloton software, hardware, design are the rolls royce imo. Not to mention I think their production and instructors are next level. Haven't had any echelon stuff, but I'm all on board with peloton for many reasons. The best workout investment you can make is something that you will use. Peloton gives me that in spades.
@@Jason-zm4xq Echelon workouts are equally as good, at least I think so...in the end though, it's you who has to put the work in. I'm finding that these days I feel that I push myself harder and get the best workouts going at it myself. The instruction guided workouts were good for the first 3-4 months.
I’m looking forward to to this video
Your bike reviews have been so helpful and are definitely steering us towards the Peloton. Thank you so much for these in-depth reviews. Best of all the videos we have checked out!
Thank you so much Emily! That means a lot and so glad the videos are helping out!!!
I ordered my echelon 2 weeks ago and it came 4 days ago. Honey plugin saved me 300 dollars on 1 year, the ex 5s, and shoes and I got the whole package after the honey thing for 1600 delivered. when I put it together there was a weird line down the screen. I sent a picture and a text message to echelon and they overnighted me a new screen with a box to ship this one back in. I have had nothing but a great experience with them so far.
Great to hear! Thanks for sharing as this helps me with sharing to others how a company treats its customers.
Hey Jay,
We have had our Echeleon since January. The bike is solid but the software is not all good. I enjoy live classes but the leaderboard results leave me with plenty of questions.
I have tried the "Friends" tab. many times trying to reach out to other riders. I have not had a single reply back.
What is you experience?
Just some info for your viewers about my current experience. I purchased the ex7s. Put it together, like you said, simple enough. There are three different cables that hard-wire through the handle bars and come out the front and plug in to the back of the monitor. However, there is still a blue tooth connection because when you turn it on a blue light blinks to pair mode. Everything seemed to be syncing fine, entered a ride and turned resistance knob, the number on the screen increased but not physically easier/harder to pedal. Called support and they sent links to get into admin screens as mentioned in your other comments, but it won't even go into the screen they say it is supposed to so you can make the changes they suggest. I emailed the support person back this morning and got no response today, so I'll try back tomorrow. This is not turning out to be a good experience in my opinion, and judging from the other comments I wonder if I should just return, get my money back, and try for Peleton.
Wow. I am surprised. I really thought they would fix that issue for the next model because it was such a problem for so many people and they don't seem to have a good fix. That is really too bad. Hope it works out Clint but if they can't fix that quickly I would start to get a little nervous. (Being brand new and they can't easy fix an issue known about for a long time)
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Update on my ex7 problem. I got back in touch with support and they were able to determine there was a problem with the bike itself. They sent me another bike, received it within a week and it is working fine so far after about a week's use. Fingers crossed. Told me to put broken bike in the box the new bike came in and return. They emailed me a return shipping label, took to FedEx, they printed out and accepted with no problems, very easy. So if the bike continues to function properly I'm a satisfied customer and would recommend them. I'll update if anything changes.
Your reviews of this bike are spot on! I made the leap and purchased this model after watching this and the "Battle Royal" reviews. The bike quality is very sturdy and it very solid. I was pretty happy with the bike until I came across the dreaded Bluetooth issue. The Bluetooth has been constantly disconnecting from the bike (very annoying). I was hoping this would be fixed by the time I made the purchase last month. Your other comment about the resistance level of the bike is minimal but it left me thinking, "Is this the hardest?" With the rollout of the Peloton Bike+ and the price drop of the older model, I have decided to return this and go with the Peloton (not the Bike+). If I'm spending $2000, I want the equipment to work and not have to "fix" it.
Well, I am happy my review was accurate but sad to hear you dealt with problems. Honestly, I thought they fixed that issue but I am getting comments lately saying they all had issues like this. Too bad because like you said, it seems to be a solid product. Regardless, hope the Peloton works out for you and you love it! Thank you so much Ernest!
Thank you, I really love your review. I've been trying to decide whether to buy the peliton vs the echelon.
I'm going to hold off and come back and watch your reviews.
I can honestly say that your reviews have been the best. Very thoughtful and honest by far.
So, even though I want a bike now, I'm going to hold off and wait for your next review. And then decide.
Thanks😊
Thank you so much Lynn! Those are my favorite comments because that is what I am going for! Just trying to share information to help people with their decision! I am about 80 percent done with that video but I just broke my foot! (Sitting at doctor right now) I am hoping to still get the video done soon but I need to roll the bikes around and not sure I can... but I will do everything I can to get that video out ASAP as I am really excited about it too!
Have an Echelon Sport and had a few BT connectivitiy issue but most have been fixed with just resetting the bike. Since it doesn't have a hard wired in screen and I use my iPad Air a good thing is I can cast/mirror the screen onto my Smart TV across the room so much bigger picture and that works well. Also if you have iPad and Iphone or smartphone you can hack and take Peloton classes also using the echelon bike. Peloton classes seem a bit more polished and mature but hope Echelon will catch up! Great review.
Thanks Rob and great to hear! I have had that bike in a box for way too long. Hopefully will review it here soon but the feedback is helpful!
Travis, you are RIGHT ON about the issues with the monitor becoming disconnected. I find if I ride the bike just a little on my off-days the connection will hold. I bought in March at start of COVID and still have the issue.
Hey Sara! You might want to give support a call. Going into the "admin view" on the bike and doing a few maintenance steps might be helpful. I know clearing Bluetooth cache has helped others in this exact same situation.
Another awesome review. We just made a new playlist on our Indoor Cycling Channel and have added this video.
Much appreciated Indoor Cycling Channel!
Your video is SO informative and you are so educated. It’s making me think I’ve been mispronouncing the word “Echelon” all this time. 😀 Most everyone else pronounces it with a soft ch sound (sh) but I’m trusting how you say it after watching this video 😍. Great vid!!
Haha. Thank you so much Justin! I have actually never look looked it up so it is possible I have been saying it wrong this whole time! Thank you for the nice comments and hope you have a great day!
I have been waiting for this one.
You have helped me a lot. I didn't want to spend the extra on the peloton and I don't necessarily care for my nordictrac treadmill, so I was going to try this.
Glad to hear Emmett! Best of luck figuring out which one is best for you!
my wife is about to order this bike and i thought id check it out we are both new to the bike thing so im sure this will do us fine
Hope you love it Jason!
Thank you so much for your videos! It really changed my mine. I was going to buy a NordicTrack CST Fusion with their bike as I wanted to keep the same brands Now I am considering Echelon and Peleton
No problem David! Best of luck finding the perfect bike for you!
Very helpful! Thanks for the review and getting into the technical details. Helped me decide to hold off for the new peloton bike!
Glad to help and no problem!
Any plans to review the soul cycle at home bike?
Just want to mention that there is a great app that allows Echelon owners and most others to use Zwift (and other apps). It's called "qdomyos-zwift". Travis, don't know if this is of interest to you but would make for a great review...
Also, great site and reviews
Thank you so much Jeffrey and I appreciate the heads up! I will add that app to my list of things to check out!
I've had the Echelon ex-5s for a week here's my take: Bike was most likely returned as the weights were missing and the monitor had some light scratches, there is also a sound coming from the flywheel that disappears when peddling backwards (Echelon is sending me a new drive belt), I love that the handlebars are adjustable that alone is enough for me to choose this bike over the Peleton, the videos on the Echelon app are of varying degrees of quality but the screen itself is capable of HD 1080 and the UA-cam videos on it are quite nice, (If you want a better tablet with 4k be prepared to spend $1000 just for that plus the cost of a spin bike), I have no issues with the instructors as compared to those on Peleton (I have the Peleton app running on my Echelon so have been able to compare yes hacked tablet), As one who has been spinning for decades now no one would be disappointed by the quality of the workout on this bike even if they just used the Echelon app. As for the cost of the bike it's justified because as I mentioned earlier large tablets are very expensive and I need the monitor on the bike as there is no place to hang a TV where I have the bike. All in all satisfied with the purchase and best of all it arrived in two days after placing the order the Peleton would have taken three months!
Wow, that is a quick delivery! Glad things are mostly working out and you are happy with it. Very true that the cost of the attached monitors are no joke and are a big part of the overall cost. Hope you continue to enjoy the bike!
@@Learnwithtravis Update: Actually the screen had a plastic film that I hadn't noticed and after peeling it off the monitor is in pristine condition.
@@chrismaxny4066 Well, that works! Good to hear!
This was a really good review. Travis is spot on when it comes to the things that can go wrong which is the Bluetooth controlling the bike connecting to the classes and to your heart monitor. With the Peloton, once you use your Bluetooth headset/heart monitor you are good to go. With the Echelon, I had some issues with connecting my heart rate monitor to the classes and the bike not always connecting to the class once it starts. I recently moved my bike to a different location of the room and since then, I haven’t had this issue so I’m going to assume the Bluetooth on the bike was conflicting with other Bluetooth devices I have in the space I once had the bike in.
Thanks Kim! They have been really pushing updates since I made the video, so they may have introduced some fixes as well. I am noticing a better experience lately as well, so hopefully they are getting this thing dialed in!
I’m going to try moving my machine around the house and see if it fixes my issue. Besides the Bluetooth issue I do love the bike.
@@biancaperez1808 Let me know if you get it to work and what you had to do. I could see moving around the house fixing WIFI problems, but probably not bluetooth unless something nearby was really affecting it. Might have to be a call to Echelon to get their take. Hope it is an easy fix!
LearnWithTravis Definitely did not work unfortunately. I contacted Echelon and they gave me basic troubleshooting instructions to clear the cache. In the mean time I just bought a wahoo cadence sensor and I’m using it with the peloton app. Luckily I didn’t splurge on the higher end models have so I don’t even plug in the bike anymore. I wouldn’t trust their software for now. It seems like you play Russian roulette with their bikes and just hope yours is a good one.
Bianca Perez, I use the wahoo cadence with the Peloton app most of the times too. I am so glad I didn’t spend 2 grand on the Peloton and I actually like that I can adjust the Echelon bike due to my long legs and short torso where I was limited with adjusting the Peloton bike at the gym.
Thanks for the video! Looks like @Fit Lab used some of your content in their comparison video.
No problem and thanks Chad! Looks like they used a bunch of it. Second time recently this has happened. I will try to be positive and assume my content is good enough it is worth stealing! 😂
Not a one off issue with connectivity. Just got our Echelon Mid January 2021 , having issues as well. Bluetooth to Apple Beats NFG, and internet wireless connection. Wireless Speed test beside unit 75 MBPS. Calling Echelon tech tomorrow hopefully they have a fix!
If you don't mind, let me know what the outcome is. I have not heard the best things about their support in the comments and I am curious how they handle this. Thanks!
@@Learnwithtravis After a bit of unhelpful chatter via messenger with an uninformed agent they sent me a phone number. Within 5 minutes I was talking to a real person who did her best. She must have been a new hire as she was being coached , I heard all the answers twice!! After 90 minutes they said they will be sending me a new tablet. One interesting statement from them was that the unit works off 2.4G wireless network . I have a dual band wireless boost that provides 5 g network as well. Really hoping the tablet is the issue as the bike is solid and the classes we have participated in have been great.
Glad you are at least making progress. Replacing the tablet fixed my S22i and it looks like that is what will fix my Velocore. I don’t think all those components like being shipped. Hope this does the trick!
@@Learnwithtravis We are over 4 weeks for the replacement tablet. Nothing yet. Contacted Echeleon , they have their excuses, They cannot give me any shipping date. We are RETURNING the unit, too bad because the bike is good. Far too many issues with connection, tablet and software.
Thank you for the balanced review.
My pleasure!
Just got my EX5S, prior to seeing this video. So far I am happy, though... I purchased a Echelon Armband hear rate monitor and it will not sync. I posted my issue on their Facebook page on a Sunday and was surprised to get a response back. Unfortunately the customer service person on the other end of the chat did not seem to know that the device i had was Echelon branded and told me to push the "pair" button on the side of the device. There is no pair button on the side of the device.
I am going to be patient. I think that the enormous number of sales due to COVID have probably been overwhelming. We shall see...
Great to hear it is mostly working out. The HRM should work out and at least you can still work out and enjoy the product in the meantime. Getting the HRM will be a bonus to boost the excitement when it gets fixed (yes, I am an optimist). You are right on about companies being overwhelmed right now.
HR monitoring pairing has been an ongoing issue. it was addressed prior to and during recent beta testing
Hi noticed the rack in the background. I have the same one for years. Went to a local welder and welded on hooks to bench from the front. Looks and works great. Just an idea.
Very nice! Thanks for the tip!
They matched the back exactly and sprayed it black. I think it was $40
Amazing video! Great insight! Thank you for the great detail. Very helpful. I was in between the Peloton Bike and EX5S. I'm leaning towards the EX5S. Question - does the EX5S allow for casting the screen onto a TV?
Great info, thank you!
Sure thing! Thank you!
Great review and video! 👍🏾
Thank you so much Day2Day Davis!
Hi Travis, could you check if the Bluetooth issue is resolved and let us know. I wrote the company and said that they updated the software recently and it should be fine now. If it is, I’ll be placing my order soon
Yes. I am wrapping up another video and then plan to start testing all 3 bikes (Peloton\S22i\EX5s) for following video. Should know shortly.
@@Learnwithtravis Thanks! Looking forward to it. Also, there's a new bike in town...called Stryde Bike...have you taken a look at this?
Great truthfully review... thank you
You’re welcome and thank you!
I Really appreciate your review. You do a great job of making video personal, trustworthy and easy to follow. I just recently ordered one, the issue was not with the bike and corrected with the update. I noticed your comment regarding the HRM. I would like to know what HRM straps paired with the EX-5s.
Thank you so much for the kind words! I truly appreciate it. I have noticed my EX5s has been much better after the recentl updates so I think you will be happy! As far as HRM, the one linked below is highly used in the Peloton community and what I have. It is fantastic.
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@@Learnwithtravis Great to hear I can pair with the EX5s. I like my Wahoo Tickr X. Looking forward to more of your UA-cam
I have connection issues as well with the ex4s+ from Costco. It is connected through a DC cable and still has issues staying connected. The cable connection seemed very flimsy and needed to be taped in place to work. After two days, got fed up and returned it to Costco for another one. It had the exact same issues with the plug not staying in the provided tablet so I returned that one as well. Pretty bummed out because the bike itself seemed to be great quality. Not sure if it's worth getting a different model echelon or not.
Glad to hear you were not stuck with it and you are able to find a better option. Good luck!
Very informative thank you!
No problem at all!
Such a timely video, I was about to pull the trigger on an Echelon but software problems always give me pause. To my reasoning, if the Echelon took a while for a software engineer to figure out, what will my experience (the average non-techie consumer) be like? No thanks.
You have prob made the right decision. Many software issues . Tech support not helpful. Echeleon is supposed to be sending a replacement tablet. Still waiting ...4 weeks.
@@keithsedar2229 Four weeks and tech support isns't helpful? Ugh. :/
This does seem to be a commen response that support is not helpful. That is what I experienced as well. Until I get an impression this is resolved, I would not blame anyone for looking elsewhere.
Sorry Keith. That is terrible.
I’m waiting on your final comparison bc right now I’m torn between the peleton and Nordic track. I’m waiting to see your final video prior to making a purchase
Sounds great! We have a little vacation coming up, but I will get to work on it after that!
I bought the nordictrack based on Travis’s reviews and comparison with the peloton since I also couldn’t decide between the two. I was able to get the peloton app on the nordictrack without paying the $40 a month so it was the best of both worlds. Plus the swivel screen sold it for me so I can take advantage of the other classes. I just got it but very happy with it so far.
Bethany DeGraff thank you for this info! I’m leaning towards it based on his review for 2 reasons. The lesser cost plus the scenic riding. I think that’s what will ultimately sway me! The only thing he had to say that was somewhat negative was not having clip in pedals and an uncomfortable seat
@@bethanydegraff6238 How do you get the Peloton app on tge Nordic Trac?
Marilyn West yes I have loved the scenic rides so far! I use the peloton app for the studio classes but find myself mostly riding the scenic route since they are so good! I also bought Issi clip in pedals on sale from REI and a seat cushion from Amazon. I may switch the seat out at some point but for now it’s fine because I’m recovering from a broken foot so I’m not riding too intensely yet. Also I ordered my bike and it arrived in 11 days and by me the peloton wouldn’t arrive for 11 weeks so that also played a big factor for me.
I’m not sure why you have those problems. I have this bike. I didnt buy peloton because of the add-ones. I ride this bike 60 days a week. I usually use the “free ride” option.
Mostly I love the bike. My problem is with their slow customer service. They’ve sold a ton of these bikes. I waited six weeks for delivery.
Good info and thanks Fanne! I received multiple software updates and it has worked much better since. Has been a nice bike which I will cover in my next video! 😀
Another great review- are you getting the new peloton bike to review? I’d love
To see if you think it’s
Worth the upgrade. Thank you. Love the channel!
Thank you so much Jenny. I really appreciate it! I sure am! I need to check on the delivery. I think it might be coming in this week! You know I will be testing that one out as soon as I get it!
Thanks for this review. I was Costco today and they resolved this issue with hardwiring the computer system.
Interesting. Didn't realize that was an option.
We just purchased the bike from Costco. I’m wondering if you brought up the specific connection issue.
@@Learnwithtravis It's new... The rep I spoke with suggested I watch reviews on UA-cam for the bike, but disregard the video highlighting the connectivity issue because they fixed it, I bet your video caught their attention.
Well that is good! Happy there is a fix and hope people don’t have problems anymore.
the UI was so similar to peloton that I thought you could just install the app and use it on this bike.
Yeah, I was a little surprised at home closely they designed it to the Peloton UI.
And mr when i get on you can be my instructur.
Hahaha, I am not employed by Echelon but that would be an interesting job!
Another great review with lots of helpful info. I don’t care for their ecosystem at all. I’ll stick to Peloton app. I’m considering the Echelon EX15 (Amazon / Sport - Walmart version). Could you please do a review on it vs Peloton? Thanks!
Thanks T C! I will see what I can do!
Nice Vid Trevor
Thanks
Thanks for your amazing reviews. Will you ever review the Keiser M3i? Thanks much!
No problem at all and thank you Gayle! I really want to get to the M3i. Honestly, I have a backlog of eight bikes I need to review right now, so it will be a little while. When I get to purchasing my next round to review, that one is on the list to consider.
@@Learnwithtravis Thanks a million Travis..the Keiser M3i will be a super exciting one as this has a totally different design with something like an 8lb flywheel..can't wait, they use this in a LOT of health clubs and is apparently fantastic and low maintenance.
Stay safe,
Gayle
If you already have a tablet I would get the EX5 instead of the EX5s. It is the same bike but you are paying for the monitor. Save your money and use your tablet.
Good point!
I agree. I was going to purchase the Peloton when I saw the EX 5 and I didn’t want to wait for the EX5S. This is the one time that being impatient worked out for me. I use an old 73inch Mitsubishi tv that I was going to get rid of to mirror the class on.
Great review. I just purchased this bike. I don't even have it yet. I am 56 years old and weight 270 pounds. I have purchased this to help accomplish my weight loss journey. Question - are there classes that will suit my skill (or lack thereof) level? Or will every class have 20 and 30 year olds wearing 7-11 bike shirts that I won't be able to keep up with?
Thank you William! Naw, you will be able to find options. The Echelon does have a little bit more of a party\club vibe to their content, but they have classes structured for different levels. Also, remember that any rides you do where they say they want you at a certain speed
esistance... is just a recommendation. If you need to also be 30 percent lower than what they said, that is absolutely fine. The point is to get on that bike and get exercise which you will be doing even if you are a little slower than them. Hope you love it and it helps you with your goals!
Enjoyed your video. I’m looking at getting the EX5 , the model without the screen so I can use my own tablet rather than a built in display.
Aside from the technical connectivity issues, do you remember how the bike was overall aside from that? Was it quality outside of connectivity issues? Feel like it’ll stand up to hours of use from a pure riding/exercise perspective?
Thanks! I thought it was a very solid option. A notch below the Peloton but I am comparing to the best. Resistance was good, stability good, overall quality was good. I was very happy with it and unless you are very specific on how you want something to work, I imagine you would be happy.
Hello Travis!
You make great reviews!
I was wondering if I could ask you a couple of questions on The EX5 and the Sunny you had reviewed.
When doing sprints and general use which one is the most stable?
Which one do you think has the most resistance?
Thank you!
Thanks P L! In terms of stability, i would say a tie. They both seemed very connected and stable. The EX5s monitor did have a little movement but it was not bad and the Sunny does not have one so I can't flag them for that. As far as resistance, while I loved the Sunny, I will give it to the EX5s. They both had good quality resistance, but the EX5s had more of that top end make you work for it resistance. Hope that helps!
Thank you!
I appreciate the honesty in your reviews about each of these bikes you have been testing - the good and the not so good. How long from order to delivery did it take for you to obtain your Echelon? I ordered the MYX fitness bike in early May and am being told it takes a good 8 weeks to ship & deliver. MYX fitness also has the interactive 22" screen, but unlike the Echelon, it is physically fastened to the bike with a wired connector and still costs less. Hope you review the MYX bike as well.
Thanks Irena! It took roughly 40 days which was a good hunk longer than they said it would be. Congrats on the MYX bike! I have been getting a lot of comments about that bike. It is on my short list of bikes to try and get to! Let me know what you think!
LearnWithTravis yes!!!! Waiting on this final review to make my decision.
Great info... thanks
You bet!
Great review, thanks. I just picked up an EX4s, which appears to be a Costco exclusive model and looks like the EX5s but with a smaller monitor (tablet). I've had it 4 days now and on day 2 I started to experience the tablet shutdown-reboot problem that you describe. I noticed in your later video (Echelon v. NordicTrak v. Peloton) that Echelon got this problem fixed for you. Can you describe what they did? I'm assuming the software is the same on my 4s as the larger tablet on your 5s.
Thanks Ken. It has been a while, but they have a way you can go into admin mode (see android settings). They got me in there and we cleared Bluetooth cache and I might of played around with removing some Bluetooth connection. I then got an update from Echelon and it seemed to be fixed after that. I think if you Google it, you can find how to get into admin mode. You could also call them to get updated instructions and as they may have learned more since then. Good luck!
@@Learnwithtravis Thanks Travis. FWIW, Echelon sent me this link to clear Bluetooth cache on the EX5s. I'm struggling to get it to work, but it may be useful for others. echelonfit.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360055290873-How-to-clear-Bluetooth-cache-on-new-EX5S-tablet
Great review, thanks for posting. I have been looking at the ex5 (non s model) to use my iPad with Apple fitness. Cannot find reviews of that bike anywhere! Wondering if using your own device like that will fix the connectivity issues. I was looking at this vs the Schwinn ic4 as I like the rear flywheel design and the water bottle holders seem better placed. Thoughts?
Thanks Dave! Honestly not sure if the connectivity issues remain with that setup or not. The IC4 is a very good option, especially if you want to use Peloton Digital or other supported apps. I think the EX5 series is a better quality bike (both are great) but I would probably rank the Echelon a little higher. I need to fire up Apple fitness and test that out. Don't know anything about it yet but maybe a video showing which bikes it pairs well with would be helpful?
@@Learnwithtravis thanks for the response. That would be awesome! My thought is that Apple Fitness doesn’t capture that data so it should be fine. I would just use the Apple Watch with the iPad running fitness and then use the Echelon app in free ride mode on phone to get the nerd cycling data that I want. I want to know my cadence, resistance, and my output to see how I might be improving as a rider.
I just bought this bike EX-5S and it is amazing.
The assembly went smoothly but had to call the support to setup the app.
It seems like they upgraded the monitor.
So far great. I am using it everyday and loving it more and more.
Wonderful! Glad everything got worked out and you are loving it!
great , any problems with blueetooth
How was their scenic ride? Im hoping not to buy a nordictrack but I can’t find a bike that has a nice scenic ride options.
Sorry, I have used an Echelon in a long time so I am not sure.
Care to share what you did on the backend to fix your connection issue? We're not seeing any sort of light coming from the bike anymore. I've gained access to the Android OS and went through and reset bluetooth cache, storage, toggled bluetooth and wifi on/off etc. Nothing seems to help. The IT guy in me really wants to fix this!
I went into admin mode (google it) and played with the some of the bluetooth settings. It has been a while but I think I disconnected devices and cleared cache. I then did not connect headphones or a HRM after as I got the feeling they were conflicting with the bike pairing.
Good Review - Wish I would have seen this before we bought yesterday! My understanding is that you can also use the Peleton app with this, is that true? Also, it seems like you need to be connected to the app to get the resistance to work, did you have this same experience? Thanks
Thanks Linda! You could make Peloton Digital work but it is not built into the Echelon. You could do a just ride (no instructor) on Echelon and use Peloton Digital on a tablet. As far as changing resistance, I believe the bike just needs power. When you turn the knob, it sends a signal to a motor to adjust resistance, so without power it does not change. Hope that helps and that you love your new bike!
If you have not recieved your bike you can cancel your order at anytime with no penalties.
Thanks for this great video! I wish I had seen it before buying the Echelon, which has been soooo glitchy. Every time I log on to a live class, the app fails to read my stats on the leaderboard and I have to sign out and back in several times before it finally clicks into place. I lose about three minutes each time, which means I have to play catchup with everyone who has not been experiencing the issue. Frustrating to say the least. And the customer service was so slow to respond and never came up with a solution (other than to tell me to turn it off and back on again, which didn't really work either). I'm returning the Echelon within the 30-day window and getting a Peloton.
Can you returned your echelon? Was easy?
Well, bummed it didn't work out for you and I am very curious as to why Echelon is not getting this fixed. I have had quite a few comments stating problems like this and I can't believe they are not putting everything into getting it fixed. Regardless, glad you are still in the window to get it returned and know what you want. I highly doubt you run into problems with the Peloton. Hope the switch goes well and you love the Peloton Veronica!
Thanks Travis for this detailed review. Me and my wife have gone through a lot of the reviews and the comparisons as they give us a very good information and details and we are trying to make a informed decision on which bike to get. I have a question regarding this Echelon bike, by any means do you know if echelon has fixed the Bluetooth issue with this bike or the newer one EX7s. Also is the review for Echelon EX7s coming soon?
I know I was able to get it fixed, but I have had multiple comments from people saying they are still running into this. So I am not 100 percent sure where this stands but I am a little uneasy based on what I am hearing. I have not ordered the EX7 yet, but knowing me it is only a matter of time!
I'm thinking about switching to Echelon so I can also have a rower with the same subscribtion.
I probably need to get some Echelon equipment. I do feel like Echelon was a bit behind others but they have had a couple years to improve on that since I last tested.
I have had this bike for 14 months. At first I thought it was not bad at all, and it did the job. Unfortunately I have not been able to ride it for the last 5 months because of ridiculous problems with it. First, the flimsy cable broke and it took 3 months for the Echelon company to send a replacement. When I finally received the replacement, I went to put the pedal back on the bike and the specialty nut was now stripped (from only taking the pedal off one time) and no longer works. (Apparently it is easily stripped). Echelon would not simply send me the nut and can only send me a full replacement pedal (luckily, I have the extended warranty). It has now been another 2 months and I have yet to receive the pedal despite constantly calling. This bike is poorly constructed and the customer service is incredibly slow. Save your money! I would not recommend this bike to anyone.
So sorry to hear what you are dealing with Ronit but thank you for sharing. This helps me understand what is happening out there and also for people looking through the comments before making a purchase. I hope things work out.
One year later, what would you say? Have those problem been fixed?
I have since sold that bike but my problems did end up getting resolved.
Great review. Can you still ride the bike and make adjustments if the monitor bugs out or disconnects
Thank you Gary. It has been a while since I was on that bike, so I am not 100 percent sure. I feel like you may have been able to but you could not see current settings, but honestly not 100 percent sure.
Buy the version without the screen for $500. Bought my own screen and saved a ton
Glad it is working out well for you!
I really appreciate the review and I’m also looking forward to the future review! Quick question, do you think the EX-3 with utilizing the peloton app would work? Thanks for the great info!
Honestly, not 100 percent sure. I have not tested that model so I don't know how changing resistance works. Do you need to be on the Echelon app to see and know resistance? Also, I am guessing (could be wrong) that the Echelon brand cadence sensor does not share to Peloton Digital. I might try to get this model down the road a little bit so I can play with things like this... but in the mean-time, sorry I can't be more specific.
LearnWithTravis I really appreciate the quick response! I’m just trying to find a bike that I can use the Peloton app with and not have to spend a ton of money. I just found your page and love what I’m seeing so far!
No problem! If you are not sold on Echelon and want Peloton digital options, the IC4 or Sunny bikes make great options. I have videos about that too! 😀
Yes you can and there are many who have done exactly that on youtube. Of course if you don't have a tablet figure that in to your budget and you'll need a cellphone if you want some stats and a 13 dollar a month subscription to peleton.
I’ve had my echelon for a couple of years and I still have a hard time connecting the bike to my app. Every time. I’ve had workouts stop in the middle and not be able to finish. They have always had technology problems. The main thing I have a problem with is my knee always hits the resistance knob when I’m standing and changes the resistance because it moves when you barely touch it. Does the Peloton do this? If anyone is trying to decide between the two bikes, all I can say is if you can afford the Peloton, buy the Peloton.
Great feedback Teaeli! I know people do the knee thing with the Peloton too, which usually is a reminder that you are not in a good position (if you knees are going that far in). The advantage of the Peloton is that is does not make a big different in resistance and you can easily fix it. I noticed the Echelon has a bit of a delay while the motor adjusts resistance and correcting resistance can get a little annoying.
It’s definitely not a poor mans bike, it’s two different bikes.. echelon is the smart mans bike.
I wish the to resistance was higher , I am into climbing and at the top one doesn't get me burning like I would like to.
I could see that. Probably good enough for 98 to 99 percent of people but if you train at more extreme levels, other options would be better.
This is on sale right now for $550, and the Studio Bike Pro 22 is $600. Which is better since they're essentially the same price with the same size screen?
I would go with the studio pro myself, but I have not tested Echelon in a while. From what I have seen, just a little better in most categories.
@@Learnwithtravis I ended up ordering the Studio Pro 20. I figure for $600 I can't go wrong, and if I don't like the feel of it (like it's not stable/quality enough), I'll get a lightly used M3i here locally for like $700 and use a tablet for content.
@ryanmiskin8925 so true!
Could you please do an updated review on whether the issues you found have been addressed?
I wish I could but unfortunately I do not have that bike.
Hey thanks Travis for a really good review...quick question...can you measure the max height setting on the handlebars and tell me the height from the floor to the handlebar? preferably the handlebar that is closest to the body. I am 6'1" but have a 35" inseam and therefore the seat needs to be really high but my problem with the Peloton is the handlebar, max height, isn't tall enough for me to ride a bit more upright. I'm going to return the Peloton and am hoping the Echelon has a max height adjustment that is better (in addition to the more v style frame).
I'm so sorry I missed this one! Just grabbed the tape measure and it looks like the front (lowest part) is in that 42 to 43 inch range. Hope that helps!
Think I'm going to go with this one. The goods of pelaton for a fraction of the price. And since I'm just getting into indoor biking I'm okay with the poor man version
I like it! Sounds like you are getting the right bike for you and that is what I like to hear!
No different than the pelaton. Pelaton customer service blows. It’s just a slight different than the pelaton. I’m an avid rider and if I had to choose I would chose the echelon. But still a great review thanks
Thanks David.
Hey Travis, thank you for the videos. Was curious if you have any opinions on rear driver bikes vs front drive? Anything you've learned or heard that would give one an advantage over the other?
Thanks Rob! Honestly no. I have not felt a major different between the two and I think it comes down more to the bike itself than front or rear drive structure.
So I just got the ex4s and I’m also having Bluetooth connecting issues in connecting the bike to the tablet. How did you fix it?
It has been a long time but I believe I went into the android OS and cleared Bluetooth cache and maybe cleared another thing. Set back up and it worked after that.
Thank you for your video! Do you still have the echelon? are you having other problems? I have a problem with the resistance cord, and have no idea how to change it, and can't find a video on how to change it, and was hoping you could help if you are experiencing the same issue!
My pleasure and I do. I honestly have not rode it in a while as I have been testing other bikes but last I new they had fixed the problem on my bike. I have not had to replace any cables so I don't have any great tips there. Sorry and good luck!
Love your reviews. Have you done one on the keiser m3i?
Thank! No, but I want to! That one is on my short list to get. Probably a few months out but I do hope to get to it! The people that have commented about it seem to really like it!
Hi Travis, thank you so much for the review. I went ahead and purchased the Echelon based on your review and others and generally am very happy. The one thing that I'm not sure of is a design flaw or perhaps I have a bad bike. I don't feel any resistance until I get to about 16-18 on the resistance dial. Is that your experience or should I seek to replace the bike? Can't really get a straight answer from Echelon. I don't think the people in customer service have ever ridden the bike. What was your experience relative to where you start to feel the resistance catch? At what number do you feel the resistance. Doesn't make sense to me to have a scale from 1-32 when you can't feel any change until about 16.
Hey Chris, glad to hear it is working out well! Honestly, I had the same exact experience. I remember thinking that a good hunk of the "resistance range" was wasted because I did not feel anything until roughly where you mentioned you noticed the resistance coming in. After testing for a while, I found their to be enough workable resistance range to still be able to dial in what I wanted and make minor adjustments so I think it was just fine. Honestly, this is how other options work as well. The range for a Peloton is 0 - 100 and you don't really feel much until 25 -30.
@@Learnwithtravis Thank you Travis you just saved me a bunch of wasted time trying to pack up the bike, reassemble a new one only to find out it was working properly all along. I completely agree with you that there still is plenty of range to work with despite no changes from 1-16. Thx!
@@chrisolson551 Glad to help! Thanks Chris!
I really appreciated you comments on the hardwire Peloton vs the wireless connection on the Echelon. I also saw your Nordictrack review and that was fine but it still looks like the Peloton is the bike for me. I do need some guidance Covid-19 has shutdown my gym I have not been on a bike for 120 days and I was a 6 day a week spinner. Quick questions: what about mixing in no instructors or scenic rides just an old school kick your own ass with my spotify music ride? Is that something you do in your workouts or do you always use the online rides? I am 61 and have now lost all my fitness and put on 15 Lbs since March, I need to do something and here in NJ no gyms any time soon. Any advice would be appreciated. Your channel is well done and I am now a fan. Thanks
Thank you so much Bill! Really appreciate the kind words! I enjoy mixing it up kind of like you mentioned. When I want to get a great workout in, I do something instructor led. Sometimes I want to do my own thing at my own pace and I really enjoy listening to a podcast or watching educational UA-cam videos (my version of scenic rides). The major bikes all have either scenic or just rides modes where you can do your own thing and it works great as it is still displays stats for you to see what you are doing. Hang in there Bill! I know these are tough times and we all have been forced away from many things we enjoy. Hopefully things start to return to normal not too far out.
@@Learnwithtravis I ordered the Peloton today with delivery 09/03 so I am on the road to getting back what I lost. Your eval of the Echelon sold me on the Peloton. Thanks for a great review you nailed it. Thanks
So do I have to have the bike hooked up to Bluetooth so the adjuster will work the tension adjuster. Because I tried to adjust it manually and does not seem to work
I don’t have that model anymore so going off memory. I don’t think so but it does need to be plugged in and maybe in a ride. Sorry, been a while since I was on that bike. I do think you need to turn it a bit before you notice it.
I have a question. I have literally sat watching all your vids and they are great. But I am left with one question. I like the sunny bike that you reviewed about, but I am wondering about the resistant/level. How can I sync that to the app or have it digital so that I can be on the same number as the instructors. I don’t want to get a bike with the monitor, you being in the computer world know that those things are like buying a all in one computer...it’s just not good. So, I want to have the full experience with out breaking the bank or buying the monitor with the bike. I am sorry for the silly question, I am completely new to the bike world. Please help :)
All good! I honestly have not come across a good way to add a resistance display to a bike that does not have it. As they are magnetic and resistance is based off of how close you move the magnet to the flywheel, I don't think their is a good aftermarket way to sensor resistance. The IC4 has it built in and may be worth considering. As far as Sunny, most turn it to 0 resistance and then count how many half turns it takes to get to full resistance. That way they know how much they are changing when riding and can keep a mental tab on where they are at. After a while, you can tell by feel as well. Sorry, not the best answer, but that is what most people do and most have been fine with that option. Would be nice if more resistance display options were available!
LearnWithTravis no need to apologize, you have no idea how thankful I am of your reviews. So, being that I am a newbie and don’t know much..I went the safer route and bought the IC4. The downside is that it currently takes SIXTY days to arrive (yep, 60 days). Do you recommend any shoes to go with that bike? I don’t think you have a video on that but if you do I missed it. Once again, thank you for taking the time to make the video and reply. I appreciate it very much!
No problem at all and glad to help! Going off memory, I believe that bike uses spd cleats. So you would need to get spin shoes that are spd compatible with spd cleats (super common). Shimano are a common brand people like but there a lot of good options! Congrats and hope it comes in sooner than later.
LearnWithTravis thank you! You are the best!!!!!!! I hope it does too, I keep checking 😂 I am excited for the solution to my work out problem, I have children and going to the gym is almost next to impossible. I am glad you made these reviews, they have been very helpful. Once again thank you!!!!
So I am running into the problem of the bike disconnecting. I called customer support and she said it had to be escalated and that I will get a call in a few days. Can you show us how you got into the different screens to make it work? Or share the steps.
I wish I had seen your review prior to making the leap. Your video comparing the three bikes really sold me on the peloton.
Sorry to hear you are running into problems. I am surprised they have not figured out how to get this fixed for people yet. I get nervous providing advanced steps because I don't want anyone to make their bike worse and sometimes it is better to let support do their thing. But the link below describes how I got into admin mode. I believe they had me try the steps in this document. I also went into bluetooth and cleared the cache. I might of turned bluetooth off and back on as well. I honestly can't remember exactly what I did, but this should send you in the right direction.
Hang in there. Hope you get it fixed soon and problems are all behind you.
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Thanks for the review it was excellent, I am watching this post purchase and have been riding the dickens ot of my echalon. I haven't encountered any of the software problems that you spoke of, also I believe that they removed the bluetooth option as during my install, i was connecting a cable from my bike to the monitor so I am thinking they switched to a hard wire. I am noticing some creaking in the pedal arms when I stand to ride (may just be as I am pretty heavy) but was wondering if you had encountered any of these at all on stand up portions? Thanks again!
Thank you so much and glad it is working out so well! That is nice if they switched the design to hardwired! I don't remember hearing any creaking. Might want to reach out to them as maybe tightening it down may help?
I’m looking to buy an echelon EX 5S Would you recommend me getting it?They’re asking 500 for it?
Brand new, they are 599. So unless it is still in the box unused, I honestly would expect a better price. I would also check out how old it is (they have been making them for a while) and see if you can do a test ride on it before you accept it.
Well I got the real poor man's version the Echelon Connect Sport from Walmart and all was good until 2 months later! Turned into junk! The pedals got all wonky and the seat adjustments were garbage. I had black and silver all over my floor and the seat kept moving back and forth even after tightening it . Walmart us taking it back.
So sorry to hear that but thank you for the great feedback Evil Queen. I have that one still in box waiting for a review so your feedback will help me to know what to look for. Glad to hear Walmart did take it back.
Sadly I just received an EX5s and had exactly the same problem with the bluetooth. Like you I thought it would be sorted by now, but clearly there are either faulty bluetooth chips out there or they have limitations with being to update the software. I also had a dead pixel on the screen, which I was willing to look past, but with the bluetooth issue it's going back. Over to Peloton I go!
Sorry you ran into that. But… honestly, I think you be much happier with a Peloton over Echelon. Probably a good thing in the long run! Hope you love it!
I own a Peloton and I love it but I want to add a bike to our summer home. I thought with my existing Peloton app subscription I would be a little less price aggressive. I'd love to get the IC4 but the wait time is the full summer so that's out. I've narrowed it to the Echelon EX3 or the Sunny with the tablet holder built in. Want to help me with a decision? Thank you
I would go with a nice Sunny model myself. Basically because you already pay the Peloton subscription and the Echelon would mean another subscription. Plus the Sunny bikes are should be great as a secondary option.
I just got my EX5S and not only did it have bluetooth issues...the resistance knob I think is not synching properly as well. The resistance on 1 feels like it is already on 20. I tried everything even updating app through a USB etc etc. Echelon is sending me a replacement but I'm bummed out as well cuz I spent over a month and a half already waiting on this bike
Sorry to hear that Rudy806. I hope they get you a new bike quick and all goes well. Regardless, thank you for sharing so others can learn from your experience.
Hope this isn’t a stupid question: I noticed a lot of shake when you are off the seat, is that normal?
I don't have that bike anymore but I believe it had a little bit of play in it. Probably a little more than the other high end bikes but I also put a lot of force into it. I am big and top heavy so I really put those handlebars to the test. I am guessing it would be perfectly fine for most people.
That bike is good .that bike I think I will. Want .good vide
Well I think I've narrowed it to the IC4 vs the EX5. Leaning to the IC4 just so I can use other apps.
Good call. They are booth good options. The IC4 is the more flexible option where the EX5 is maybe a little bit better bike but tied more to the Echelon system.
I like my spin bike, just got off it from a short session (freestyle while I watch Star Trek on Netflix). But I have a 3 yr old grand-nephew who likes to get on the bike and stand on the pedals and turn them. There is a very serious pinch hazard in the design of this bike--the pedal bolt sticks out nearly an inch after it goes through the crank! There is no reason for this. If a kid slipped and got his foot caught in there it could seriously tear up his ankle. Echelon needs to do a recall and send out pedals that don't stick out.
Travis, the console on the EX5s... is that just a buffed up android tablet? If so, is that the only difference between the 5 and the 5S? In other words, should we have issues with the included monitor/tablet could we get by with a handheld tablet until a new console is sent? Just wondering, as that would also open the door to getting admin access and installing netflix or audible.
I believe that is the only difference. I am pretty sure it is a beefed up Android, but that is basically what they all do. I believe it is build a little different to secure to the bike better and it is a really big screen (Compared to a tablet). You can use admin mode to exit and get out of Echelon software, but I have not played with doing anything special. Hope that helps!
It's a Neb-215 made by Glorystar. It's a commercial grade Android tablet, 10,000 hour screen life, drop tested, designed for use in commercial kiosks. They sell for ~$750 on Amazon. www.glorystartouch.com/product/Kiosk-Tablet/NEB-215. ua-cam.com/video/DidUhPHNlWA/v-deo.html
I went with this because of the reported 6-8 month wait on the Peloton. I'm just not going to wait that long for a bike.
Hope you love it!
I just received my Echelon EX5s today and I'm having bluetooth issues as well. It seems that bluetooth is disabled but it wont enable it. It will not connect to the bike because it is disabled but I have not found a way to get this to work. I'm now waiting for support to get back with me in 24-48 hours. A little bummed.
That would be a bummer. I know the excitement of wanting to start using a new toy right away and not being able to. Good news is I think support should be able to work this out. Between updates and using the admin mode to clear cache and other OS level items, I am guessing they will get you fixed quick. Hang in there Jaimy!
How can I use this bike without the monitor and still get stats?
I believe Echelon has models without the screen so you do to have to pay the premium for it.