Space Engineers - S1E16 'Automatic Mining Rig'
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
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"Have you tried turning it off and back on again?" Welcome to the future, folks.
The Rogue Wolf it’s the most successful method of fixing things. I’m not an IT professional but I build computers as a hobby and that seems to almost always help.
Just turning the engine off and on again worked!
Imagine a world without plugs, it'd be hella difficult to debug for dummies!
My theory is the block is like this to simulate a real engine or gas powered generator. You have to turn the key or pull the start cord to get it started.
Wait...is that an IT crowd reference?
Is there a easier way to add more pistons do you just have to grind away the old ones to add another and replace the drills???😊😊
Question from a beginner: can i move such a rig elsewhere?
This rig is fixed to the ground, but you could possibly put this on a large rover instead and drive it around.
@@Kanajashi Wouldn't the game's physics engine make that FUN?
Lord Clang needs his sacrifices. That is one way for him to get them. XD
just restart the hydro generator you shouldn't have to restart your base.
Refineries can use stone also, not just the survival kit. Just sayin. Nothing goes to waste. Really good vid.
Thanks for commenting
I realized that right after this video was made! >_
@@Kanajashi
There's also multiple Mods to convert the Stone into Gravel, & Gravel into Ores, so you don't need to worry about the Stone being useless.
I use it for my Solar System Minimalist Space Start.
The one I use is pretty well balanced, as it converts the Stone into Gravel into Ore, which then needs to be smelted, and the return is a percentage of the Stone used, which really makes the Efficiency Upgrades for the Refineries very important.
Really glad this made it vanilla the final game, being able to break stone down into iron is super helpful
Couple of suggestions:
1 - You should setup one of these drills for the ice patch.
2 - if you don't care for the stone, just have an ejector remove it all, like you did on your mining ship earlier.
3 - I would stick a wind turbine and a refinery on the mining platform, might as well make it do all the work!
4 - You're awesome and keep up the great entertainment!
I totally placed one on ice patch, omg is this thing efficient or what )) I've ice for years now!
Add a refinery for refining the stones. Refineries produce more ingots per stone than survival kit, even without yield module, and do so VERY quickly. I made a spaceship with 11 drills and refineries that can mine 1.000.000 iron ingot in minutes by just mining stone.
Build that whole Rig on a Rotor itself to even improve efficientcy and range
Hey Kanajashi, I've done a bit of testing with the new blocks and thought I'd share. Hydrogen Engines are built in an on state with out hydrogen in its internal tank. Cycling the engine off then back on fills the tank and starts the engine. Power cycling the entire grid basically does the same thing with more risk of power loss.
(Engine side note) A engine left running after a battery(s) reaches a full charge state (with out load) will continue to run, but stops using hydrogen. Only when a draw is placed on the grid it slowly starts using fuel.
Also, the survival kit, basic refinery and refinery all process stone. Each step up from the survival kit processes stone more effectively and quicker than the last.
Looking good Sir! Looking forward to seeing more of your adventures!
you should probobly save your drill as a blueprint for quick and easy redeployment!
38:42 "this is all pure nickel"
refineries: am I a joke to you
What if you used a sensor to detect when the drills are swinging past on each revolution and go down a bit each time. You could probably get it to go as fast as it can without forcing the drills into the ground that way.
But can you explain how to do this tho
@@001sharpshot Put a sensor on the main column facing the rotor, detect subgrids only, set a detection zone a block wide and far enough in front of the sensor to clip the drills when they swing by, increase bottom distance as deep as you'd want the drills to go relative to the sensor. (You can change the sensor position, it's the clipping that matters, just keep the sensor on a different grid than the rotating subgrid and adjust the zone accordingly.)
There are multiple ways from there, either you set as sensor action a timerblock that increases max piston distance on each pass with a fixed extend velocity, or alternatively set a fixed speed on the pistons then make the sensor trigger a timerblock to power the pistons and trigger another timerblock to turn them off, tweaking the second one's delay + piston velocity to go down as much as possible without bashing the drills in the ground. The first method is very precise and predictable but you get in trouble with too many pistons and the last needs more tweaking but you can adjust for a lot more pistons. (You'd want other QOL timers as well, to retract and stop, or return to a known initial state for example, so it's easy to control from a button panel)
One could also use this to make a reciprocating motion instead of a circular one, kinda like a racking motion, you'd be digging a rectangle instead of a circle.
A bit late but I hope it helps ^^
Recommend attaching a refinery to it and or setting up a conveyor line back to base although expensive saves time and once all the ore is depleted then just take the tubes apart again
45:26
Your Hand Drilling Technique is gonna get you demonetized at that rate xD no wonder you switched to the Rig!
The individual drill bits look to be turning at 1 RPM while the arm is turning at 3 RPMs😊👍
Note : No Fuel warning is the base/station that is crying for it, if you build a hydrogen tank and an oxygen tank that warning will stop
But wasn't it still doing it even after he disconnected from the base grid?
It only stopped when the reactors were removed... or did i miss something?
You can just restart the hydrogen engine instead of everything
44:20 "Almost a HUNDRED THOUSAND NICKEL!" (over 950 thousand in the box) ROFL
It's OVER 9000!!!
Was too excited about the mass of nickel to count right :P
Kana your drills were rotating so quickly because it was doing 3rpm not 1rpm on the single press of the increase button. It looks like it does them in steps of 3rpm a press. (3, 6, 9, 12, etc)
Also, I love this drill design and hope you don't mind if I use it. lol
Got the game yesterday and thought, about building this, and here someone already thought of it
44:19 ALMOST 100 THOUSAND NICKEL
Bruh moment
I suppose you could switch off reactors instead of grinding them to non-functional =]
i agree, that damn no fuel alert needs to be really really fixed, once reactors there if its not running spams no fuel
One of the big problems I encountered with connected grids through connectors is when you click "Y" to cut the power, it will cut the power on all connected grids and therefore disconnect them all... in space they wont' move but when you put the power back with "Y" it won't restard all the disconnected grid of course, so you'll have to restart them one by one...
For the hydrogen engine you just have to toggle the power of the hydrogen engine block and it will start, you don"t need to toggle the power of the whole grid.
My new faction member just made this and then I just saw this video and got so confused so fast.
I thought for a second that he was recording on the server then realized this was made 3 weeks ago and not yesterday
Freaked me out though
This video got me into Space Engineers after having it in my steam library for years!
Great video I like the solar panel setup on your base the only thing I would have did to begin with I would have stacked 4 cargo containers one on top of the other cuz you never know how far that nikhil will go and how much Stone you're going to accumulate to just get at that nickel but also like you mentioned I had that thought before I watched your video about making a land drilling rover that has at least 4 large cargo containers 4 solar panels 2 wind turbines 2 batteries 5 drills I mean this would be a massive mining Rover that would also have a basic refinery 2 out of those three large cargo containers well store the finished product
@Kanajashi I know this is an older video, but how do you manually set the speed of the piston using the keyboard. I'm only able to use the slider.
Yeah, I see people do this all the time and cannot figure it out.
@@FH-cn3mg I found the answer a few hours after asking. CTRL click will do it.
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Your crazy idea at 41:32 inspired me to make my mining platform mobile. It works great on lakes. I haven't tried it over land yet. I have a piston system that extends 100 meters and I left on overnight with a refinery running too. I had so many ingots that I didn't have room to make anything (I'm using the default, for this world, 3x inventory size). Lol. It was over a silver deposit too. Today I moved it to a cobalt/gold deposit. Thanks for the suggestion!
Can you make this a blueprint on workshop
i know this series is long past this episode......but why not make a mining setup on the ice?
just need to turn the engine off and on again to charge batteries, might also randomly get 1.8L of fuel as well.
Figured this out minute one of using them, has nobody been listening to IT departments all these years?
I'm surprised you didn't put a refinery on the mega drill so you could be transporting pure materials.
you should put ejectors on it and whitelist stones. So it only takes the Ore you want and drops the stone. I have this setup on all of my miners and it works perfectly fine!
Quite nice work vehicle. Do you have an updated blueprint loaded in the workshop? I don't see it.
41:30 yes! I haven't watched after this as of yet but I'm on my way xD . I hope that later in your series that you make something like that mobile drill platform!
your sense of direction still does not cease to amaze me
you can just turn and head towards the drilling rig without a gps
After you have flown there a few times it's not hard. You know which way it is based on what part of your base you are looking at or the trees and landscape around you.
Whats the point of putting TWO hydrogen engines on a hydrogen thrusters ship with 2 batteries? I mean most of my ships use atmospheric thrusters, which use power... and I don't even put reactors, solar panels or hydrogen engines on them... They are just battery powered, and I recharge the batteries when I plug into the base. These two engines are just excess weight, and will even burn through your fuel ressource just to keep 3 drills powered?!?!
how do you increase the amount in drills (234,375.00) and the cargo containers (large Container 4,218,750.08) thats the amount in this video ?
I think you would appreciate this:
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1644951278
It's basically what you built, but instead of pistons it uses an "auto extender system", which automatically builds a pipe system as it drills down.
Basically, it's an automated mining system :)
Also, pro tip, use math to calculate the speed your piston can move down continuously as it spins, then you don't need to manually change it all the time. I have a quick starter base which does this, it however requires manually extending the drill head every like 10-15 minutes or so:
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1641702710
Came here for automated mining; I haven't been following this series. What's the timestamp for that part? Looks like roughly 15:00 .
@Kanajashi - That welding ship is gorgeous. Flies so smooth and does a great job.
so simply designed too
? 5 seconds in .... "I am afraid turning off the (power) grid will drop all the ships from the base" no shit.... /delete video
You should seriously get in the habit of turning off your hydrogen thrusters when you're not using your ships, even if they are in a state of idleness they burn through hydrogen like a dehydrated marathon runner does with water after crossing the finishing line.
Also landing platforms may be a good idea if you're worried about cycling power and destroying it ships in the process.
Thanks for the idea... prntscr.com/p0hfs1 same design but with 4 pistons ... prntscr.com/p0hfs1/direct
prntscr.com/p0hg4a/direct - The whole thing...
I built this rig tonight.... however all the ice seems to get stuck in the drills and not get funneled to the storage container. The setup is drill connected to rotor connection to pistons then junction and conveyored from junction to storage container.. Any Idea why the ice would not be moving from drill to storage ??
Can y'all explain how to make conveyors take ingots out of refineries and put it in storage instead? I wanna be able to hook up the stone/ore tank to the refinery and once it's been turned to ingots and everything, how do I get it to put it into separate containers?
Standing directly under a thrust engine..... whatever could go wrong?
I use a gravel sifter mod, converts gravels slightly into ore, but not over powered.
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=889402581
If you like the challenges of survival mode you might want to set your inventory setting to a more realistic level. Fitting that much ore in one cargo box is ridiculous.
LOL Every time he kept saying "100 thousand nickel" I'm like dude, that's one million. :p
30:05 STFU THAT IS EPIC
You should make a graph about the Nickel Band ;3
Damn I've been trying to mine more ice in my own survival (lake is 6km from my base :( and this is such a good idea
I have a great drill set up I'd share but the sensors keep malfunctioning. Hinges are the main workhorse and its hella stable
The way you pronounce "let us" it sounds like "lettuce" xD And every time you say it i have to think about that lmao
45:15 what does that looks like? lmao im laughing my ass off xD
I love playing with these designs, the range on the drill actually lets you space them out a bit, so with a connector between each drill you can save a bit of resources and still clear out materials.
except... uhm… if you stack them close together, you dupe ore.... idk if Keen fixed that bug yet or not, but on one series I watch, a group made a giant drill ship, and because of how many drillas were on it, it would get 10 times as much ore than was actually there.
hey hey
i am very new to space engineers how did u swap the middle part out so u could down size to smaller block please is it a mod ?
a bit late, but all you need to do is toggle the engines themselves off then on again. not the entire base. make em a group and do it that way. much easier
with that set up you can always add another piston to the shaft with some cleaver welding and grinding.
In my exp turning just the hydro engine off/on will reset it and it will start working .
Do you happen to have the mining ship blueprint download on steam workshop that seems bad ass
How do you enter custom speed to the Piston ? (0.005 per example)
2 timer blocks will have this rig running all by itself.
I was thinking, why not design the ships so they have landing gear, and park them so that they're resting on something. This way you don't need to worry about losing power, or having to pull a Jurassic Park..
He could put small docking pistons with landing gear that extend out and lock to the base.
The hydrogen engine needs hydrogen. Just turn the engine ON, and it will fill up and produce power. Turning the engine OFF, will stop it from filling up, and will stop producing power. You don't need to restart an entire grid.
Yeah you dont need to restart the grid just the block itself. Seems to be a bug people have that the hydro engine doesnt work even when you have hydrogen trying to go in.
So I have the same setup, but my tubes are yellow instead of green... Anyone know the solution? The materials don't seem like they are transfering.
Is it powered?
2 PROGRAM BLOCKS CAN HANDLE THE DRILL CONTROLS
so where's the video on how to build that neat ship!????
wieso kann ich die Trägheit wie im video nicht ausschalten bei mir wackelt das wie verrückt
i wish you didnt cheat with th hydrogen kinda crappy that u did
DRILL++ INDUSTRIAL CUTS OUT 2XS THE DRILL++ DOES
The disconnection issue is precisely why the base connectors should be for loading and unloading only. For charging batteries go with a separate charging dock completely isolated from the base power-wise. Connectors don't need to be connected to conveyors to transmit power. Build a tower 10 blocks high (really only need 8, but 10 will give you a buffer), build out about 8 - 10 blocks in all four directions at the top, pop a wind turbine on the end of each extension, and set up your connectors around the base.
By using wind turbines you have a steady source of power without having to divert any of it to batteries and by keeping it isolated you don't have to worry about your ships crashing if for whatever reason your base loses power. Or you could put hydrogen engines and oxygen generators on your otherwise battery powered vehicles that are responsible for charging the batteries when idle (i.e. keep it off when flying and turn it on when parked and the batteries are set to recharge) and just park on the ground or in a hangar using standard landing gears.
That's a wierd shape on the left 👀😂 45:15
Holy shit, I thought my 60k stone was alot
17:32 were you humming the Critical Role theme?
I dont want to sound judgemental but dont you think that H engines are a bit inefficient for mining in atmo?Atmo thrusters would do just fine with batteries that can be recharged with just the solars.I get that hydro are better at lifting so you can have more effective load without worrying about the ship drifting,but is the expenditure worth it?
No hate here just a honest question :) love to hear your take on it.Good vid and have a nice day
didnt watched whole vid but ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS SIMPLY RESTART HYDEROGENS VIA CONTROL PANEL. NO NEED TO RESTART WHOLE GRID LMAO
I see these rigs and think well that works but I wan't more then stone, seems every deposit I find is like 40m down from the surface where clang "assists" with piston operation when extending that many of them. For something like nickel well you get that from stone as well as iron and silicon so why try for the deposit?
I'm thinking it cannot be too much hassle to make a script with a lookup table for the components of different things and have a few button panels for requesting the components directly into a welder ship, instead of having to transfer manually all the time. Sortof like how you do with Easy Inventory, but for ships instead.
-To extend the pistons a little bit at a time from the seat, First turn the piston block off, then tell it to fully extend, then add the piston (or group of pistons) to the action bar with on/off option. This will allow you to move the piston a little it at a time by toggling it on and off. Pistons still transfer ore and power when they are 'off'. You can do the same thing with the rotor.
-If you want to get the stone out of the container, add a sorting block, then a connector. Tell the sorter to whitelist only stone. For the sorter turn 'drain all' ON , and for the connector turn 'collect all' to ON and 'eject' ON
You should convayer the drill to your base
you need this on a ship our massive rover
add a sort block and an connector and eject the stone
That mining rig will cost you a fortune in PCU on a MP server. I've got a rig that can do 3x the width with 5 Drills. Trick is to get clever with rotors and have the drill bore out horizontally.
How do you you switch from the big block to small block ( or big thruster to small thruster) on a ship/base because it's very annoying sticking to one or another
Satisfying rig to watch! I had a similar one that was a skyward facing rotor that had a T shape on top of it, and had drills hanging off each side of the T. So I mined a big donut around the rotor base essentially xD
I tried making a mobile version of your mining rig, but i must have did something wrong since it is almost impossible to steer the damn thing. It goes back and forth tho :))
how did you que up parts for construction with out going to production. ???
Easy Inventory Mod i believe, It is an excellent mod.
one thing you can do add a wind turbine and basic refinary to your mining rig so that it refines the stone into iron, silicon, and nickle ingots while you are away so that you have iron, silicon and nickle ready for you to take and throw out the unneeded excess gravel.
It's funny how excited you get over nickel, cause in later videos you just shrug and say I have plenty of that back at base.😆
hey mate, nice drilling rig...but automatic is somthing else
you could use some timerblocks for the pistons and some math to calculate the exact time
What kind of flight time do you get off of 2 engines and a tank on that utility ship??
That sounds to me like it'd fall down in five minutes.
why dont u just disconnect the ships so they float on their own power for a few min and then turn all off/on ? kinda goes beyond me why thats such a huge issue for u?
really like the idea of a mobile version, might make one that looks like one of those container ship cranes, where the drill arm is in the center of a large square frame
if you put a refinery on the drill rig before the second cargo then you can use the second container to store the refined ores ... and the first to hold the raw stuff ... also you can add a solar array to the top of the rig to keep it powered nice and long ...
are you able to put the main support stem of the drill on a rotor? That way you can swivel the entire arm 45 degrees or whatever and then do another huge circle of mining?
Those characters look like among us
Could you put another rotator attached to the top of the arm and rotate the whole rig? and/Or even add wheels to the base and a counter weight to make the whole thing mobile?