Imperial agents has been. Dream of mine so I took a list this week using the Imperial Navy. I took 2 units of 10 DW with 4 TH and power swords and shields as close combat and two units of deep striking grey knight terminators. I took 3 units of navy breaches, one with rogue trader attached, plus plane, fighty vigitalates, inquisitor, 2 watch masters and navigators, plus vindicate and evisor. I was lucky that I had been collecting these units for years so they are legit. Went against white scars. Deep striking breachers and terminators, infiltrating DW veterans and vigilantes…played the points game and was competitive and won on points without much of the army left. Had a great time with the game and loved the army … can not wait to play them again, maybe with some sisters
You need to play the points game. Trade your units for vp and vp prevention, not killing. And if all your army is mostly gone at the end. That just means when you call exterminatus less faithful are caught by it.
Go for Imperial agents, i dont care about aestetics, i just want to learn more tactical tricks, and see how far you can push them. You were once bestoved by the " best general" title, when grey knights where considered as one of the weakest faction. That was an amazing feat. I would like to see that once more.
I have played agents from the beginning of the 10th as my main. The codex has done marvels with the index. Take this advice as you will. 1st. You can't play them like other armies. We are not a fire forget army. Charge in a hoard, gun line army. Or a unit for unit training army. We are different. To add silly philosophy, be an inquisitor. No soul is too important to die for the imperium victory. We trade units for VP, counter VP, and board control through delays. I'm not saying some will never find a smash list, but it is counter to agents. Strength. Deployment. Board control Mechanic breaking. Weakness. Range combat Anti armor, sv, high toughness. Middle Glass cannon in melee. ( not the best, but it is there) Durability. If you noticed, none of our strengths are of killing power. In a wargame, baised around killing other units or trade units for units, it sounds counterproductive. The so what of that is, you must play differently. There are a few changes to game play. Assassian. They are not lone operatives in the way a lot of armies use them. Look at them as a unit upgrade. Like the empires state unit in the old world. They are to be used in conjunction with other units. Vindicare, you don't put him where he has the best LOS. This will make the OP except the risk of it. You place him with LOS of the one area you don't want a character to move through. After deployment, reposition him. Remember, he can move. Don't hold off on his abilities shot, waiting for that perfect shot, use it. Then go aggressive with him. He is a pistol and is strong. Culexus is amazing even in against a non psyker force. She is a mobile multi shot vindicare. And terminator killer Evesor. Great for board control. Callidus IMO is the weakest. For her to be effective, she has to be targatable. She is the character killing version of the evesor but less. How to vision the fight. You have to time analyzing combat estimate. Look at the board and your OP army. See where you want to be at the end game. (Be realistic) and build your strategy backward from that. Where do you need to draw the OP to get to that end state. I run 3 subjagators, a Breacher with a rogue trader, attached to them with combat landers of fleet master if I have another navis character. Combat lander on the other. Inquisitor with Clandestine 3 x drop breechers. As my core. From there, I have a rear assualt force. Normally, 2-3 BSS squad in immolators (the rest picketting you deployment) or x2 breechers in rhinos with navigators. Deployment Rogue trader with breachers in extended line in the middle of no man's land to shut down OP infiltrate. 2x Subjagators infiltrate on obj. 1x subject as your last deployment extended line 9 inches from OP deployment. This will cover aprx 30" of board. Redeploy Rogue trader group on obj. This shuts down and scouts Turn 1 if you first advance subjagators within 1" of OP force Locking them in their deployment zone turn 1. If you go second, you will keep them contained with 9 inches, not as good, but it is OK. Turn 2 ( or turn 1 if you went second) advance the other subjectors out and extended line them causing a movement block again. If you do this well, you can keep them out of mid board for 3 turns. Thus, they are not scoring. At the same time, your back assualt force enters from their deployment on turn 2. Causing them to have to shift early in the game to deal with it. If they screened. You can come mid and and block screen. Deal with their deployment objective. Sister more fire power. Navigator group. Screens them from being able to DS on you. And give good mortals against infantry Defenders. Attempt charges with vehicles to screen reinforcement on their home obj charge objective and over whelm the OC. DS breecher as need to recover mid board obj or openants forces if need. At the same time, the rest of your forces are advancing. Effectively, you can shut them out of the mid board for 3 turns. From. There, you play a delay, fight sacrificing units for vp and vp prevention. Adjust as needed.
So the models are out there. I personally have 6 breachers squads 3 exaction squads 3 subjagators 15 voidsmen 3 roguentraders. Play it as a reasonable proxy. It's is a great army. Very underrated and I am happy with them and that people don't know how good they are. You are incorrect. It is a fun army. Post your thought of list.
I called around within a 2 hr drive and can't find anything near northern Ohio, Pittsburgh, or Michigan....well a few things but it is super super difficult to find anything and GW has not supplied the united states well...as far as a list i will be putting my list video early so people have time to get use to proxy and ask questions on what's what
Well its going to be better to proxy everything because the investment on a whim to see if its even fun or not is far far too much. There is no reason not to share the test as content because even if its not a huge driver for views, it will at least help someone out if they had a similar idea of a list.And im sure Lane will have fun getting to beat on the agents codex a bit too. It might be good since there are so many proxies to make like a small index/data card with the unit name on it that sits under the lead model in the unit on the table just so you and lane can keep track of things easier in the game. Have fun with it, not everything needs to be purely about competitive play. Some times it can be fun trying to come up with ideas to make the underdog viable.
Imperial Agents is an awesome army. Go there with your eyes closed.
Keep them rolling!! I love how Imperial Agents work, cant wait for the next battle!
Yes, it would SO interesting to see if it can actually work as an army 🙏👍 and no matter what it may look like you guys always brighten my day 👍
Thank you very much!
Hey! Glad you enjoy what we do. Thanks for the comment!
Imperial agents has been. Dream of mine so I took a list this week using the Imperial Navy. I took 2 units of 10 DW with 4 TH and power swords and shields as close combat and two units of deep striking grey knight terminators. I took 3 units of navy breaches, one with rogue trader attached, plus plane, fighty vigitalates, inquisitor, 2 watch masters and navigators, plus vindicate and evisor. I was lucky that I had been collecting these units for years so they are legit. Went against white scars. Deep striking breachers and terminators, infiltrating DW veterans and vigilantes…played the points game and was competitive and won on points without much of the army left. Had a great time with the game and loved the army … can not wait to play them again, maybe with some sisters
You need to play the points game.
Trade your units for vp and vp prevention, not killing.
And if all your army is mostly gone at the end. That just means when you call exterminatus less faithful are caught by it.
Proxy agents
Thank you for the response
Always rooting for the underdog so make more Agents content
Will do!
Run it with proxies!! I’m sure Lane would let you borrow some models depending on the detachment that you use.
Yes please … I want to see more of this army …
You got it!
Do it! More agents please
Ty
Proxy them!!!! Just find a friend and print out whole bunches of stuff.
Will do! Proxy for bow that is
Go for Imperial agents, i dont care about aestetics, i just want to learn more tactical tricks, and see how far you can push them.
You were once bestoved by the " best general" title, when grey knights where considered as one of the weakest faction. That was an amazing feat.
I would like to see that once more.
I have played agents from the beginning of the 10th as my main.
The codex has done marvels with the index.
Take this advice as you will.
1st. You can't play them like other armies. We are not a fire forget army. Charge in a hoard, gun line army. Or a unit for unit training army. We are different. To add silly philosophy, be an inquisitor. No soul is too important to die for the imperium victory.
We trade units for VP, counter VP, and board control through delays.
I'm not saying some will never find a smash list, but it is counter to agents.
Strength.
Deployment.
Board control
Mechanic breaking.
Weakness.
Range combat
Anti armor, sv, high toughness.
Middle
Glass cannon in melee. ( not the best, but it is there)
Durability.
If you noticed, none of our strengths are of killing power.
In a wargame, baised around killing other units or trade units for units, it sounds counterproductive.
The so what of that is, you must play differently.
There are a few changes to game play.
Assassian.
They are not lone operatives in the way a lot of armies use them. Look at them as a unit upgrade. Like the empires state unit in the old world.
They are to be used in conjunction with other units.
Vindicare, you don't put him where he has the best LOS. This will make the OP except the risk of it. You place him with LOS of the one area you don't want a character to move through. After deployment, reposition him. Remember, he can move. Don't hold off on his abilities shot, waiting for that perfect shot, use it. Then go aggressive with him. He is a pistol and is strong.
Culexus is amazing even in against a non psyker force.
She is a mobile multi shot vindicare. And terminator killer
Evesor. Great for board control.
Callidus IMO is the weakest. For her to be effective, she has to be targatable. She is the character killing version of the evesor but less.
How to vision the fight.
You have to time analyzing combat estimate.
Look at the board and your OP army. See where you want to be at the end game. (Be realistic) and build your strategy backward from that. Where do you need to draw the OP to get to that end state.
I run 3 subjagators, a Breacher with a rogue trader, attached to them with combat landers of fleet master if I have another navis character. Combat lander on the other. Inquisitor with Clandestine
3 x drop breechers.
As my core.
From there, I have a rear assualt force. Normally, 2-3 BSS squad in immolators (the rest picketting you deployment) or x2 breechers in rhinos with navigators.
Deployment
Rogue trader with breachers in extended line in the middle of no man's land to shut down OP infiltrate. 2x Subjagators infiltrate on obj. 1x subject as your last deployment extended line 9 inches from OP deployment. This will cover aprx 30" of board.
Redeploy Rogue trader group on obj. This shuts down and scouts
Turn 1 if you first advance subjagators within 1" of OP force
Locking them in their deployment zone turn 1.
If you go second, you will keep them contained with 9 inches, not as good, but it is OK.
Turn 2 ( or turn 1 if you went second) advance the other subjectors out and extended line them causing a movement block again. If you do this well, you can keep them out of mid board for 3 turns. Thus, they are not scoring.
At the same time, your back assualt force enters from their deployment on turn 2. Causing them to have to shift early in the game to deal with it. If they screened. You can come mid and and block screen. Deal with their deployment objective. Sister more fire power. Navigator group. Screens them from being able to DS on you. And give good mortals against infantry Defenders. Attempt charges with vehicles to screen reinforcement on their home obj charge objective and over whelm the OC.
DS breecher as need to recover mid board obj or openants forces if need.
At the same time, the rest of your forces are advancing.
Effectively, you can shut them out of the mid board for 3 turns. From. There, you play a delay, fight sacrificing units for vp and vp prevention.
Adjust as needed.
After you win and your force has been decimated. Exterminatus
Yes please. I love the idea of IA, but the army list is difficult.
Yes
Ty
I'd love to see it!
Will do!
Yes please im gonna work it out and only use them would be nice to follow someone else
So the models are out there.
I personally have 6 breachers squads
3 exaction squads
3 subjagators
15 voidsmen
3 roguentraders.
Play it as a reasonable proxy.
It's is a great army. Very underrated and I am happy with them and that people don't know how good they are.
You are incorrect. It is a fun army.
Post your thought of list.
I called around within a 2 hr drive and can't find anything near northern Ohio, Pittsburgh, or Michigan....well a few things but it is super super difficult to find anything and GW has not supplied the united states well...as far as a list i will be putting my list video early so people have time to get use to proxy and ask questions on what's what
Did I say it wasn't a fun army? I thought I ment that Lane didn't enjoy it because his DeathWatch got slaughtered, which can be discouraging.
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"I would put in the effort if it was fun"
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Well its going to be better to proxy everything because the investment on a whim to see if its even fun or not is far far too much. There is no reason not to share the test as content because even if its not a huge driver for views, it will at least help someone out if they had a similar idea of a list.And im sure Lane will have fun getting to beat on the agents codex a bit too. It might be good since there are so many proxies to make like a small index/data card with the unit name on it that sits under the lead model in the unit on the table just so you and lane can keep track of things easier in the game.
Have fun with it, not everything needs to be purely about competitive play. Some times it can be fun trying to come up with ideas to make the underdog viable.
Ty for the response
I want to see what the navy can do.
Yes!
Do it!
You got it!
problem with making this video is now people will expect the inquisition
Lol...well played very well played
What's a conjugation squad
Pretty sure he meant the Subductor squad.
Me being stupid....sorry yes subductor