The Message Of Monster
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- Опубліковано 9 тра 2022
- Monster is one of my all time favorite anime and manga. I've talked about Johan Leibert many times, but in this video I want to look at the message I took away from the story.
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I can't praise enough how brilliant the contrast between Tenma and Johan's morality: "Everybody deserves the chance to live equally" vs "The only chance that comes for everybody equally is death"
It's actually the same yet ...
@@ringringsir30 its like a two side on the same coin
I know that this is all philosophical and meaningful but, it feels like I'm having a stroke reading the second morality you listed.
also the fact that johan is portrayed as the antichrist and tenma is an angel, portrayed in how the people tenma meet seem to get a morale light beamed upon them and he changes their lives in amazing ways, whereas the people johan meet end up with a fate way worse, their lives are changed for the worse as they see what the devil is
@@fajriputrarudisukmawan7294 a coin? one side's death the other life? coin, death lif-TWO FACE YOU MOTHERF-
Maybe the real Monster were the friends we made along the way
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True
Yeah, maybe the real monster were the friends we made along the way. But, that's the thing you never know. You might be the monster of one's life. The real monster is not a person. It's life itself.
@AKAGAMI NO SHANKS he bugging
* wipes tear * So true
Everyone is talking about Johan or Grimmer but godamn can we talk about Tenma?! what a character..he starts out as a nice doctor really expressive of his emotions but the way he evolves into a badass guy who grows cold but still retaining his qualities is masterful. Truly one of the most underrated characters ever in manga and anime. And he's one of the best protagonist I've ever encountered. Such a great guy to follow.
Yes exactly. Tenma is my 3rd favourite protagonist after Guts and Musashi in all of anime and manga.
Yeah, when I started reading Monster for all I heard expected Johan to be my fav character (from Monster, not the overall), but instead Tenma was. His character arc and development is fantastic
I'm according to you and he his mý favourite Monster❤character with Nina whos a pretty,gentle and strong woman.But,if you want incredibly underrated character just check 😍Shinya Kogami from Psycho Pass.Even,Psycho Pass fans not realises of deep he his.
so valid
He is THE GOAT
I just finished Watching Monster this week. Johan has such an intense charisma you feel he's literally alive. I was ALWAYS on edge whenever he appeared on screen. Just holding my breath on what he would do next.
This is so facts, every time he would appear I would be like o shoot what’s about to happen now
Sameee
Well can you say that the anime is peak?
Ikr his presence is so overwhelming
true
I was really surprised by the research the mangaka made about European and especially German history. I am a German myself and I really liked how realistic and accurate the historical context and the German society after the reunion of East and West Germany were presented.
Same. It didn't expect that and i was really surprised.
I almost forgot about The Magnificent Grimmer
Definitely the best character in the series other than Tenma and Johan
Grimmer he will always be in my heart
No spoilers dude, some people may be reading the comments that haven't seen it yet
@@GrowingDownUnder sorry but the video is already spoiler so I thought it would be fine
@@ringringsir30 yeah, you're fine. other guy is a fool to call you out for that. lmao
@@rogue_infinity I tell you what's dumb, spoiling anime is dumb.
@@ringringsir30 you thought wrong, spoiling is not fine. In video or comments, both wrong.
I have re-read Monster this winter. And loved every chapter of it
I need to re read it it’s been 4-5 years lol
Thoughts on Eva?
@@Josh374 Well, I really liked her in the later part of the story. Even got worried for her. Even during re-read. I guess you see her one-dimentional at first. As story progresses she develops as a character therefore you appreciate her more.
@@oleksandrbyelyenko435 That’s what I thought as well but can we both agree that the first 40% of the story she was a B*tch
@@oleksandrbyelyenko435 i thought he was talking about Evangelion ngl
Your "The greatest antagonist in anime and manga" video made me start Monster. And it's really one of the best manga I've ever read. Truly a masterpiece. And I thank you for introducing me to it.
i saw that video and had it saved in my watch later until i finished the series. as soon as i’d finished i went to watch it😂
Martin Evas bodyguard his whole 3 episodes have stuck with me what a great character along with episode 18 with the old ex hitman resument owner Monster is my favorite fictional story 6 times over it is amazing
IKR..?! I was so sad when he died. If only every other anime treated side characters with such care as Orasawa. Martin was such a great addition to the cast .
Porco Rosso❤️❤️
Richard Braun was the saddest to me, Johan did him dirty
I think there's another message, one I realise because of recent events in my life. Some people say Tenma didn't grow or learn anything throughout the story. He saves Johan and saves him again. Nothing has changed. However, something did change. Tenma doesn't let Johan's actions be his problem anymore. He once sacrificed his entire life to chase someone who was clearly letting him. In the end, Tenma learned that no matter what Johan will do after the surgeon saves him, it isn't Tenma's problem. Tenma did what he thought was right and that's it. His talents went to waste while chasing Johan, people in the story kept saying this. In the end, Tenma dedicated himself to actually doing what he does best: help people.
The anime adaptation of Monster was done really well imo, it really captured the feeling of Johan's eerie presence that would make you think someone like this might actually exist in our society.
Wolfgang Grimmer is a phenomenal character but many people don't really appreciate him. If you bring up monster in conversation people always talk about Johan or Tenma but no one really brings up Grimmer Or Lunge but in my opinion they are as great as tenma or Johan(kinda but not on same level)
I’d say they are of equal importance, because they also serve as the amazing backdrop to the story, I don’t think Monster would be as perfect as ist is without these Side Characters
@@alucard3317 100% agreed
I know it's a cliche to say this, but Monster genuinely changed me
I feel like it helped me see the world and the people in it in so many different perspectives, I realised that I was incredibly dumb by not seeing people for who they are, their background, their beliefs, their understanding of life and I guess to cut this short, I learnt that, we can all be a Monster on the inside & it's not our fault for it
Explain. Leaving a statement like "we are all monsters but it not out fault" in the comments section without explanation is not a good thing you know
Agreed@@SteveBufz
When you re-watch Monster and the Johan's interaction with that boy(the one who wants to jump the bridge in the end of the ep) gains a new meaning
In the sense?
@@saeshapanchal450 , it wasn't just a random "bad guy move", when you reach the end you can kind of get that Johan may have felt a bit "relatable" to that kid and it's "mom issues".
@@gabriel_vaz_the1st I see thanks
One of the more overlooked aspects of Monster is the difference between Anna/Nina and Johan. Both had similarly tragic childhoods, so how did they end up so different?
I think Urasawa uses this dichotomy to argue that your upbringing does not have to define what kind of person you become. Just because you experienced great tragedy, doesn’t mean you have to become a tragic person. In the words of Franz Bonaparta, “people can become whatever they want to be”.
Although your point on the upbringing is generally valid, I'm not sure that was Urasawa's intention. Johan didn't become the monster simply because of his tragic childhood. He became the monster so that Anna wouldn't. Everything he did was to protect her. Obviously he did so in a very fucked up way, but it's only natural since his mentality was fucked up to begin with. Seeing your mother pick one of the twins over the other, and not being sure she knew which one she preferred, this (on top of everything else the twins went through) can fuck you up big time.
The real dichotomy that Urasawa intentionally (through plot & character) established is between Johan and Tenma. Is all live equal? Or are we only equal in death? If you strip those questions from morality, there's a potential for a deep psychological discussion...
I mean, if you can go back in time and kill 10 year old Hitler, would you do it? Would you be able to pull the trigger and justify murdering another human being? That would make you a killer, and will potentially ruin your psyche and your life. Sure, you'll save millions of people (maybe), and there are murderers ten times worse than you. But who's to say that by killing Hitler you'll prevent WW2 and save millions? What if without Hitler Germany not only starts a war but wins it and Europe ends up being a fascist state? No one can really say what would history look like if you did that. But that's beside the point. By killing another human being, no matter how deserving of death you may believe them to be, you're tainting your soul. That's why, I believe, Urasawa chose forgiveness in the end.
Yes, humans are equal in death, no question about it. But all life is equally valuable, too. We differ IN life (skills, deeds, qualities), but life itself is equally precious. And to move on from tragedy and grow as a society, we should forgive our sins. That's at least what I get from this masterpiece of a show.
your point is generally valid, but there's ongoing theme of importance of identity in Monster, Johan's perception of his identity was fucked up from the start because of his mother dressing him up as Nina and confusing him and that red rose mansion incident where he thought he was the one who went there, all of that fucked him up alot, also mentioned by @daniellev1878 he actually did all that to protect his sister.
@@daniellev1878I love your comment. But off course you won't change all circumstances by killing one person. Believing that WW2 just broke out cause of one person (Hitler) is pretty dum Imo. Especially when WW2 started with the japanese attacking China in 1938. Hitler/ the germans and all allies just started WW2 in Europe in 1939. And the worled was shattered and fucked at that time. And furthermore there were many parties interested in that war. The Germans were just tje ones who did the first step in Europe.
One of the best mangas ever, up there with Berserk, Vagabond, and Pun Pun.
Do you think they should ever make proper anime adaptations for Berserk, Vagabond, and Oyasumi Punpun like they did for Monster?
@@JoaquinJr yea, but they each gotta get a good studio that can put real effort behind it. I’d love to see Berserk be animated either by MAPPA or ufotable, as well as Vagabond and Pun Pun.
Pun Pun gave me an emotional trauma. Thank you very much.
The Mt.Rushmore of Manga 😌
@@kristopherwillis8075 fax 💯💯💯
Monster is, to this day, possibly the single most masterfully written manga I’ve ever read and maybe ever will read
Every single panel, every single line of dialogue felt like it had purpose
Tension is building, and building, and building, constantly toying with the established characters and our understanding of them at the same time
Johan is a god-tier antagonist
Naoki Urasawa, you are a legend
I read Monster thanks to you and it sits at the very top of what I have experienced in terms of fiction
So many characters in this story deserve more recognition, simply because Johan is THAT good of a character.
i started monster a while back but i dropped it about when tenma got to 511 kinderheim. now that my college work is done for now i’ve picked it up again and holy shit this show is fucking goated. i’m up to episode 26 and i’m invested in whoever tenma ends up meeting and, like how masked says, how subtle many of the conversations are. i won’t watch the rest of the video until i’m done with it, but wow how the hell did i drop this.
update: it’s been a few weeks since i’ve finished the show and it has easily become my favorite anime. my opinion on the series has only grown. the only thing wrong with this series is that it is not more available and it is stuck at a lower image quality. monster would really benefit from a 1080p remaster.
Johan is definetely the greatest character in monster, to the point of being my no.1 favourite villain in fiction, but Tenma is also a great character that gets outshined a lot of the time.
I've been rewatching Monster for the 5th time in 5 years and trust me when I say it hits you differently each time. As you grow up, you understand each character differently and learn something new
Now that I really think about it Johan is somewhat tragic, he’s literally unable to feel any kind of human connection and he sees absolutely no value in human life. In a way the tragedy of Johan is that he is unable to feel humanity.
Absolutely incredible commentary and analysis. Aside from Berserk, Monster is my top manga due to all the complexities and themes it portrays while still having a morally defining overall message.
Monster absolutely slams Berserk lol
@@obluda5609 in no ways does it do so other than the fact it has an ending
@@avriel6903 Protagonist: Monster
Antagonist: Monster
Plot: Monster
Side Cast: Monster
Themes: Monster
Not having an annoying loli witch: Monster
Johan: Monster
@@obluda5609 You're clearly biased in your takes, I refuse to argue something so trivial when the person in front of me will give no leeway. Good luck in your stubbornness, it will be your undoing.
@@avriel6903 Okay bro but Monster still slams
(As someone who making a story myself. I’m very interested in your story your making) and this video is helping me out. I’ve seen clips of monster and didn’t know were they came from. So thanks for inadvertently helping find it.
Urusawa is surely a genius. Giving life and such emotions to characters is absolutely beautiful.
in terms of GOAT status I feel that Urwasawa is one of the only ones that can ever so slightly hold a torch to Tezuka. GRIMMER GANG. Slept on, one of the best charecter s in the series his arc is the most beautiful. He one of my fav fictional dudes. Magnificent Mr Steiner is genius. GREAT VIDEO o7. Keep it up with your story, I get how you feel. writting is alot harder than it seems. Stay grinding and keep shinning
Which tezuka manga?
@@rajvirmalhans2073 I was referring to them as mangaka not in terms of specific pieces but rather their entire "body of work". Just to clarify : )
@@sandyaxe5138 ya I am aware. I was curious which ones. I know both have a variety of great works
I had to pause and read the death quote. This is deep. As far as reading goes I feel you Masked. There is a ton of stuff that catches my eye but still gotta read my current stash.
As a lurker of your channel I just had to say this was by far one of your best videos I’ve ever seen. The scripting, the editing its all pretty amazing
Im so glad you made this video. I have read monster 4 times through. And its amazing how people will always praise johan and all the side characters, but you almost never hear anyone talk about tenma, who is a damn near perfect protagonists who embodies the themes of the story so gracefully. Thank you for giving Tenma some love.
just like you I currently writing a story, I don't planning on rushing it since I'm still young and there are lot of time but I do research most of the time on writing tips, it doesn't only improve my writing skills but also me as a person, I able to analyze story more often and see reality in a different way but it's strange how that there are lot of videos I watched but your videos that are not even intended to be a guide on writing are the one who made me improve on writing like your video about violence in stories, ofc this too, this make me realize how to create a better protagonist, a better antagonist and a better character, nice vid
The video you made of “The Greatest Antagonist In Anime & Manga” and the absolutely incredible thumbnail it had was the reason I got back into anime as much as I am now! I probably never would be reading Berserk or watch Attack On Titan with my bro if it weren’t for you, so from the bottom of my heart, Thank you for that!
This series completely changed my perspective on this medium.
I love Monster's cast so much and how they relate in the real world plus the constant back and forth between Tenma and Johan is too good thank god I gave Monster a chance to so U could read more of Urasawa's great work
Just because of your commentary Mask, im gonna read Monster. I took your advice on Berserk and I loved it so I will give this one a try
This video couldn’t explain this better!!! Great job!
I love Monster as well as 20th Century Boys and Pluto. I’m reading Asadora now and plan to read Billy Bat next. Urasawa knows how to draw you in and make you care about everyone involved in the story.
That being said, if Miura’s assistants were to continue Berserk, I think having Urasawa as a co writer would greatly help to keep the themes and subtexts on par with Miura’s writing style.
@@vinz8081 I think Urasawa would be a big help to Koji Mori by writing punch up for Berserk’s script
Just finished the series just a while ago and I'm glad that I was able to experience "Monster" for what it truly is if it wasn't for your video on Johan.
Just competed the manga yesterday and man, what a ride. All the characters are so rememberable and the way Urasawa masterfully introduces new characters into the story is just unreal. Grimmer definately is my favourite of the side characters other than Dieter. What a masterpiece!!
Lol, I just finished rewatching it. Your timing is incredible.
Been seeing some bold takes on Monster recently so I appreciate you making this vid.
Also, I was not expecting that SMT ost at 0:10. Unexpected since if I recall you were just getting into Persona recently lol
Also suprised by the SMT OST there, pretty based
Song of healing was a perfect fit. Great video
Well said my friend. You indeed did a great job portraying the story and explaining it impressively!
highly respect you and you POV on the series
like it was meant to be, i finished Monster just today.
thanks for the video
I finsihed Monster yesterday and god i was so surprised i was so bored first 40 episodes took me weeks to watch and regreted starting the show but after episode 41 and character Wolfgang Grimmer showed up i watched rest of 34 episodes in 3 days i was shocked how everything placed right in place and pacing was so good later on i am so happy that id didn't dropped the show and kept watching, i love this show its 9/10 (anime) for me, manga with no slow pacing for first 40 episodes masterpiece for sure. It was great so many psychology used, different ideologies and so many unique characters also johan and tenma two sides of same coin god i loved this this show fucking beautiful.
Beautiful video and imo monster has some of the best side characters out of any story, up there with berserk for me
Just finished this masterpiece today . I love berserk but I’ve never ever seen such an anime that’s grounded in reality and may happen in real life . This anime hit close…to living life itself. I’ve dealt with some evil aspects of Johan in people themselves. And I’ve encountered good aspects of people as well. Seeing this anime just made me see how lifelike it is to humanity itself. It felt so raw and true. Human nature is beautiful yet terrifying and this anime perfectly captures that.
Also I find this interesting how Johan and Griffith from berserk have similar traits. Both awakened a monster within themselves. Also I can reference as to how Dr. Temna is like Guts in a sense. He goes through humanity’s lowest and see the shittiest parts of it yet…he still keeps his humanity.
Nina is Casca who goes through trauma (the eclipse for casca and for Nina = her horrible and traumatic childhood) and manages to be a survivor from it. Like casca’s thorned heart, Nina is the same. As time passes , both of their thorned hearts slowly heal despite it all.
This fucking anime is AMAZING MAN
I was saving this for after I finished monster and honestly I love this interpretation so much I wish I could find more shows like this.
this brought back so many emotions.
i need to rewatch this show.
i remember monster taking me on a journey where it really haunted me. and it always stuck with me. i revisited it multiple times and couldnt quite put my finger on why i felt so bothered. and i think... i saw johan as the main character. he was affecting the world, taking control, having power. i would rather be him than tenma, struggling to survive and do the right thing.
i would rather be the monster. and your closing statement made me finally realize that. kind of bums me out...
congratulations on the monster energy drink sponsorship
Great Video Masked man i love it keep it up 😊😊😊
I was waiting on this im writing a paper on how good this anime was and i like getting multiple outlooks
There's a great video about Monsters ending
That question he imposed to Tenma at the last scene was so chilling, something I wouldn't forget in a very long time I feel. Also this series made me love anime once again from just being burned out years ago. 11/10 would recommend❤.
The show is amazing near perfect if not perfect.
The voice acting animation and smoothness to everything also made brought to another level.
You´re videos are just awesome.
I am glad to see many people appreciating this masterpiece nowadays
Monster is unparallel
Monster, my favorite anime. I just love how it can show the kindness of humanity and also the cruelty of humanity.
I'm surprised you just made a vid abt it now considering how much you seem to love monster
"Now I know what happened at last
He turned Human again":Magnificent Steiner
I wasn't into monster but after watching 74 eps i gotta say it was masterpiece because how human it is
I thought I was missing a piece after watching Monster... The feeling though I finished the series it felt like I wasn't done with yet. Thi- This video gave the answer I needed from the series.
I swear to god I'm watching monster I didnt want to before I saw monster and didnt like the bad graphics but I was totally wrong monster gave me a new view on the world and my own sense of justice but most importantly life as a whole and itself is important and everyone in this world should cherish it so watch monster the anime dubbed if you can and enjoy life.
9:20 "He's always smiling, he always moves forward. Gracefully."
This quote was used to compare Grimmer to Johan, but actually it fully defines Johan. Grimmer doesn't understand what smiling IS. It's just the expression he knows is useful. When Johan smiles, its always DRIPPING with purpose. Johan can use expressions to get into peoples minds without words. Johan always moves forward, is always two steps ahead, and has the most powerful smile of all time. Grimmer's expressions are devoid of purpose because he doesn't understand how his emotions work, he hasn't learned how to FEEL. And yet, between the two, Grimmer is the epitome of comfort. He is trying his heart out to save people, which makes his incredibly forced smiles x100 times more genuine than Johan's manipulations. They mirror each other beautifully. 10/10 show.
I just finished watching monster because of you and now it’s my favorite manga I’ve ever read, next up is 20th century boys
Yes, I watched the anime version a few months back because of your channel and without a doubt it is now my second favorite anime/manga I’ve ever seen or read.
I think akother interesting theme in monster is dealing with your own human capacity for evil. You see this with Mr Steiner, the man who committed the murders at the end (I forgot his name but the buff guy 😂), and Tenma himself. There are multiple times where Tenma faces Johan and he ‘s struggling with his morality, should he kill Johan and solve the problem quickly or stick with his ideals and maybe cause more suffering short term but maybe cause less in the long?
What's your favorite?
@@user-qk3nq6cg7r berserk
@@whispro4646 Cool, I love both as well. Monster and Berserk are both masterpiece mangas.
Just finished watching it today in Netflix and I was glad I spent waking hours deprived sleep knowing this story. Johan Liebert just came up on one of the comments when I was watching a UA-cam post about Berserk which was an anime (1997) I was watching that time. but I had heard about Monster years back thinking it was a shonen anime about heroes.
Sheesh opened yt first thing in the morning, and saw this, nice nice
I remember watching Monster last year, it really impacts you on a different level
Danm what a good time for a video like this 👍
Great message in this commentary 😀👍🏾.
This was an amazing video ,can you do a similar type video for 20th century boys 🥺
Finally. I finished monster two days ago and I can now watch this lol.
The last ep when Johan just woke up scared me so much
The background music in this video is great.
I’m here for my number 1 manga I’ve f all time, from my number 1 mangaka of all time, by my number 1 masked man of all time
Amazing video, amazing commentary, I’m gonna go touch grass now
“This has truly been my Monster”
I’m thinking about writing a script inspired by the Martin/Eva arc. Some of the best written episodes in my opinion and one of our first meetings of the devils apprentice
Masked man, have you read any of the Tsutomo Takahashi's works? Similarly to Naoki Urasawa he makes crime/suspense stories, sometimes with supernatural elements, but he has somewhat a punk/rebellious vibe (he famously was a delinquent and member of a motorcycle club in his youth).
I recommend Zankyou (3 volumes) and Hito hitori futari (8 volumes), Specially Hito Hitori Futari which is my ideal version of what a supernatural psychological thriller should be, way better than something like Death Note.
Fantastic video. This was an absolutely brilliant analysis on my favourite pice of media ever made.
I just have one nit pick. Lunge is pronounced Lun-ge, not Lunj.
Outside of that, great work and good luck on your own project.
Great Video as Always
3:54 Wow! You are quite good at sketching..the inclusion of so many HANDS is a great feat to pull.
Well, your analysis is spot on Masked Man; however, I think Monster deserves more time to dissect. A video of twelve minutes is not enough to cover it all. To be honest, I have been reading philosophy and literature. I can see in Johan's character, a mix of Russian writer Dostoevsky's nihilistic characters; and the pessimism of Schopenhauer. I know it is difficult to get into these subjects, but when you analyze Monster; it is like the perfect representation of those ideas. Not to mention by studying Freud's psychoanalytical theory of repressed memories, Johan and Nina are victims of this psychological symptom.
Monster is Legendary and so underrated
its slow, but a masterpiece
It's overrated
You should make character trauma tierlist!
I have read Goodnight Punpun, Uzumaki, recently completed blood on tracks, flowers of evil and few more, and will read other important manga too, but I don't think any one of them can take number one place of Monster in my heart ❤
Great vid monster is peak, what's your opinion on steins gate
thanks masked man for talking about my favourite anime ❤
for now I am recommending (takopi original) sin only 2 vols and (ping pong) 5 vols
those are one of the best short mangas out there
I have just finished first volume of Takopi's original sin. Man , that is rough.
@@oleksandrbyelyenko435 yeah it reminded me of pun pun brutality
The ending is really amazing
Never knew Monster and the dmc3 ost in the background fit so well
Great video, also i've noticed some Gintama clips, on which episode of it are you on?
Loved the video my friend
Tenma bricks me up man he is such a remarkable character
Monster is the best and fav anime I’ve watched. It’s my fav fictional story ever. Hell I’m even writing a book that takes inspiration from it. That’s how big of an influence monster has on me. The characters are stellar and multifaceted especially Tenma and Johan. Johan the greatest antagonist ever imo. I love monster so much
Masked man, can you please make a video about Griffith from berserk, like I don't really understand him. Is he the villain or is he the hero. Should he die or not die. Like there are many complicated things about him and I would be happy to hear ur thoughts about him.
I wish more people knew about this masterpiece easily one of the best of all time and Johan is top 3 best villains ever
Most underrated anime of all time
Monster is so top tier anime along with Berserk, Hellsing, Black Lagoon... all that gold stuff
Just finished Monster and wow that was so good
Seeing you debate monster with saint chief would be interesting lol
Did a double take when the snes SMT Game Over music was playing in the beginning, lol nice music choice