I constructed an electrolyzer with a stainless steel fire extinguisher + 12 stainless steel rods. Placed it on my little Ford pickup with a 2.0 L engine. After testing and measuring I came up with the 53% increase in mileage. Used baking soda for the mix. The downfall was when I came home one night I was so tired after a long day at work that I forgot to shut the power off to it and blew the fire extinguishers seams to bits. I considered it a success.
I was gonna praise your humor sense... but then I saw your channels subs and realized you probably were serious... lmao What are you doing in a channel like this, bro?
Nice work, I would suggest using a pressure regulator valve if you were to redo the experiment so that if the hydrogen builds up to much within the fire extinguisher, it would be vented, preventing the extinguisher from going pop
Played around with HHO for a couple year's. I had best surface area production results with stainless steel wool. I never knew about urea. Thanks again......
@@GaryMcKinnonUFO Yes, this massively increased the hydrolysis efficiency. The palladium, induced a vibration on the water molecule which loosened its bonds. Man in Florida discovered this phenomenon.
pulse width modulation (PWM) circuitry, tune your cell to resonant frequency-gas is produced via capacitative discharge versus brute DC electrolysis. This type of gas is mono atomic H and O at highest entropy state (1L H2O/1800L gas). cell input is tuned to standing square wave modulation at high kilo-cycle frequencies. you will find harmonic 'sweet spots' where gas production is optimal at a fraction of the input wattage...so I have heard
your all right mate, really enjoy your way of getting stuff done. always head for my workshop to get active too after watching you rob, you have an honest intelligent ability and put me to shame. when all is said and done you make me an engineer, thanks teacher keep them coming.
I just wanted to say I've been watching you for a long time and man I have learned so much from you that I never would have learned from school. And I truly appreciate such... It is the most education and the most important education I think I've ever gotten in this life. And I think you good sir. Rock On & Prosper. Tesla would be proud
Cheap&easy 5 gallon bucket high volume, a) coil 4ft x 12 inch stainless, drop in bucket, it spins open lining the inside, put ovc pipe between wraps for max flow. b) 2 inch vertical pipe in center stuffed with all thread and washers or stainless mesh so it doesn't protrude below pipe. Tap top center anode for hydrogen with 1/2 inch PVC, tap outer ring for oxygn (water) oxygen/chlorine (sea water) oxygen/nitrogen (urea) etc. Its also a self regulating rig, filling center pipe, lowering water level until gas feed line empties.
Dear Rob, this devise is superb in conclusion with photo voltaic. If you run PV and not consuming all electric power you can produse hydrogen with this generator and store it for later purposes. (Called Power to gas, but many said it's not eficient enough - 30% effectivity only ...) For example feed a petrol motor with hydrogen you get electric power and hot water as well. Or just use the gas for heating or cooking. Great system! Thanks for the upload!
You cannot store Brown's gas. The oxidizer and the Hydrogen are never separate so the combustion mixture is always stoichiometric. That's why Brown's gas POPs really loudly, and Hydrogen merely whooshes. It would be suicidal to store brown's gas under any kind of pressure exceeding a balloon.
Great video, another simple way is to use 2 balls of wire wool. Put one (+ )inside a nylon sock and sink it in the solution. Then put another (-) on top this doesn’t need to be socked but it won’t hurt. Then switch it on and watch the gas flow 🤪
Very cool! I’ve been wondering about net positive electrolysis for donkey’s years and assumed it wasn’t possible because no one was talking about it! Thank you!
Water before separation is in the liquid phase, while water after recombination is in the vapour phase, which has lower internal energy due to the loss of hydrogen bonds, and a huge increase in entropy due to the extra space occupied. This is the apparent free energy.
lol, when you mentioned sewing I was thinking that maybe you could start a side business making doilies!! lol. but in all seriousness, in the early days of computers they used to use seamstresses to wire up the rope memory because they were already highly skilled and the technique was basically identical.
Prueba de poner entre ambas mallas de acero inoxidable una malla de plástico, y enrolla todo el conjunto, así logras un par de electrodos con gran área y pequeña separación. No necesitas Urea como electrolito, si la R de la celda es bien baja. Usa agua del grifo. Saludos de Américo Caorsi desde Tacuarembó - Uruguay, que siempre mira tus videos.
Great video! I would use stainless steel bolts, washers, and nuts to attach the wires the electrodes. And use rubber grommets in the wire holes before sealing.
I never knew about them usign Urea! AWESOME VIDEO! They sell a stainless 316 spatula grill set at homedepot and its super cheap! I just sand in 45 angles maximizing surface area! Great stuff!! Would love to see a Dry cell with Titanium plates. Someone is getting crazy performance with that.. I wonder what a graphene-coated TI would be? Spin coated maybe?
I try graphit coating on plate. As soon as you put electricity it is washing off right away. And i try to melt copper to liuquid phase and mix it whit graphite. It will not bond.
Loved this! If one had access to a lot of otherwise wasted animal livestock urine, the net energy gain might truly be positive. Run the electrical supply from solar pv and store the hydrogen for heating or transportation use.
Robert, a future video idea might be to put a cheap submersible pump in the electrolyzer. Hydrogen bubbles cling to the electrodes acting as an insulator reducing efficiency, vibrating the plates can free hydrogen and a pumped solution flowing over the plates from the bottom up could increase efficiency too. Eliminate the bubbles to increase efficiency and yield. Is there a best sonic or ultrasonic frequency for breaking the hydrogen bubbles free of the surface? How do you separate out the oxygen from the gas stream? A cheap plastic or glass tube open at both ends would work to do this, silicone it to the inside spacers and a rubber seal at the top to the lid and put the O2 collection tube lower in the gas column.
Upside down terracotta clay pot with the usual plumbing and spacers. These are porous and act as an "ion membrane" -- it is conductive when saturated with electrolyte.
FYI I was partnered with Dr..Alex Brown who disappeared on his way to start a 50:50 diesel /water carburetor at the major US diesel manufacturer in Wisconsin. The scarier fact is they did a 3-page feature story about the deal in Business Week and ty to find the story in a periodical search at a library anywhere...you will not find that week's magazine...it has been expunged world wide..
A few tips. AdBlue is a urea solution for motor vehicles. Urea is sold as a dry mix fertilizer under the market name Carbamide. It is also sold at health product stores as an additive to health spa bath water.
Hi Rob, that was truly awesome, I’ve look at hydrogen generator over the year but as you so correctly say build one with all the plates and separators and gaskets and cleaning and on and on I never felt confident enough, your way is so simple I don’t know why I’ve not stumbled on it before, probably again like you say kept away from us, absolutely fantastic, thanks mate
This does look a lot easier than messing about with SSteel pipes , which is what I used many years ago while doing this sort of thing, never knew about the Urea angle though.
The Stainless Lathe is a great idea, cheap and easy to get hold of at most good builders merchants. To run a car you would just need to separate off the Hydrogen and store it, apparently, tanks with Lithium 6 Deuteride is best to absorb it, however getting this fairly harmless material can be a pain because it is used in nuclear bombs, however I did once hear of Carbon being made from Coconut shells and being used to absorb Methane in Tanks to run cars, maybe some sort of a carbon matrix would also work for Hydrogen to increase the storage capacity of tanks.
I think a timed test to determine hydrogen volume produced & how much the assembly heats up at that voltage (wasted energy) should be in order. Getting too hot at higher voltages seems to be a common plague among diy electrolyzers.
I got 10 years for electrolyzing baking soda water and cocain. I’ve struggled with clean energy. Jokes aside thanks for the informative video. We need this stuff out there more.
I built one of those in 2000 to run a lpg Landover it ended up been 2x 1.5m long and running 3 alts and 2 inverters to power it all. As long as you didnt have long hills you cld run it purely on water.
I seen a vidya years ago of some bloke who had a computer controller and a sensor in the jar for the changing frequency of the water .so the computer would read the sensor and change the input sine wave to match this sweet spot he found . I cant find it .... oh and let's not forget Stanley Meyers from USA and also I'll add in Bob Lazar running his Corvette on Hydrogen
mustard mate...beautifully simple and effective...I have had a love/hate relationship with EML for the last 30 years, lol, thankfully this is SS and not galvanized pain.
Thank you very much! I really appreciate simple things like this! I plan to cook and to heat water with hydrogen. But may i ask you a simple question: what do you think about Stanley Meyer's water fuel cell? Thx
SURFACE AREA is the key to improved productivity and there is no better SURFACE ARE to VOLUME ration than inexpensive Extruded Carbon Water Filter Cartridges from your local hardware store, and using a very inexpensive brush-less DC water Pump to circulate the UREA through the Cartridges and back to a Recovery tank, where the Gases can be easily extracted and used for combustion or whatever else you desire. Obviously you use a Twin Filter Cartridge Housing so that both Carbon Filters act as Anode & Cathode and linked in the center via the common urea feed from the pump. The efficiency can be further improved by electroplating the Carbon Filters with very inexpensive NICKEL, which acts as a catalyst to the H2 production.
Actually "superb" video info, to state the least! I really Do Like your vids, more than most others, I've peered at! And took more note, as being NEW at this ideal production of HHO!
buy water buy sodas refill empty bottles with water take complete control of your water needs now. then your foods then transportation needs make your own on your own. recycle your plastics find new useful things never burn or put in garbage don't give others future problems. make your own electricity needs. make your own power packs, etc. don't retire just find a new direction to help yourself and others. make things for everyone simple use whatever makes it the best. create what you can see to do. magnets are cash money small or large use as money.
Excellent my friend, me gustò tu idea , realmente Facil, ademas es diferente a otros video sobre este tema. Solo por eso me suscribì. Sabes que tu idea se acerca mucho a lo natural. Me refiero al panal de las abejas . Gracias por compartir.
Rob its a good idea to condition the stainless by running the device for an extended period ,then replacing the electrolyte , repeat a few times , you get a brown sludge as the ss 'rusts' , I got rather a high chrome reading from doing this ,so use gloves and dispose of sludge safely ,, can get 2 liters a minute for 10 amps 13.8 volts dc using potasium H , 7 plate series cell , plates about 200 cm square , stuff goes bang louder than a shot gun .Stan Meyers ran VW buggy with on board generated HHO , then got poisoned ! ,. suspect he figured something else out though,to do with nitrogen . His cells were SS tubes inside tubes ,cut to have same resonant frequency,completely immersed in water , probably set up to be a capacitor in an LC resonating circuit .
Hi Robert..me again! Another great video! Ive always wanted to build one of these. What an excellent way to do it. Much simpler than the ones Ive seen built before! Just to note, and I am dragging this from a dim and dusty memory so please don't quote me, but I remember reading that one could get a very good production of hydrogen from a solution of Caustic Soda. Sounds dangerous but I'm sure that was what they were using. Not as readily available as pee though! :o) xx
I found on the net an easy way to store and pressurize the gas is to have two cylinders one fitting into the other fill the bottom one with water and have the gas inlet come from the top outside and go to the bottom center to fill the second cylinder putting weights on the second cylinder top controls the pressure.
If you want to separate the hydrogen and oxygen, a good arrangement is some PVC pipes constructed in the basic shape of a "UU" with three uprights (If you imagine the center as one pipe). The Pipe on one side is the Cathode, the Pipe on the Other end is the Anode and the pipe in the center is for refilling. You can cap either end and store or vent as desired. Point of Safety for everyone. I have heard that stainless steel releases Chromates in this process and is not something you want laying around and you shouldn't just pour it down the sink.
@@incognitoalias2808 Stainless steel consists of part chromium. Chromium oxidizes to chromium oxides during electrolysis. One of those oxides is chromium oxide VI ( hexavalent ). HIGHLY CANCEROUS. In civilized countries, you can't by law ( and shouldn't regardless ) just dispose of that "rust". There is special protocol for disposing it(!). Don't breathe it in. Don't dump it outside/down the drain. Don't touch it with bare hands. Don't use stainless steel as a waste electrode. USE GRAPHITE RODS/PLATES. Best conductivity, best porousness, cheapest, most efficient. Breaks down into graphite powder/graphene.
@@CoincidenceTheorist No, they settle down as some kind of clay or so. Let it dry, scrap it into a bag and drop it of your local hazardous material disposal center.
very cool rob. The biggest complaint I've seen on urea electrolysis is the foaming that occurs. I don't think 60 watts is a rate that can produce on demand gas production for jeweler torches (most active users of home built electrolysis) So it's probably way less of an issue. The other issue at low volume will be storing it safely. Flashback arrestor and bubbler to some sort of bladder?
Separate the oxygen and hydrogen by isolating the positive and negative sides. That way no oxygen mixes with the hydrogen. Much safer. Then transfer the hydrogen to a bladder or use a compressor.
So I had some ceramic heating elements from 110v 1500watt space heater I salvage from the lot of ones that burnt in my house fire. The elements still worked reason I kept them. But on subject of hho generation on the cheap using salvaged materials I found that the isolated runs in the element when stacked using silicone to isolated each one from another alternative the dc on the elements 3 positive 2 negative then 3 negative 2 positive and so on. 12v 5amp power supply made massive amount of gas fairly quickly and its similar the the square plate generatiors but I think this is more efficient bc of more surface space but that's just my opinion
I don't understand why those with the know how and inclination don't do what Stan himself said he did. Adjustable frequency alternating current electrolysis under vacuum between set gapped plates. Just like em waves can disassociate h2o he claimed the same at certain frequency ac and feed back resonance within the cell breaking the bonds on mass. Think opera singer and wine glass.
Robert, in a past video you added capacitors with diodes and ran the generator off the caps. Would you be able to do the same thing here to have a consistent flow of energy to the hydrogen generator to run it off a cars 12 V system ? Thank you for being on UTube
INTERESTING - And another great kitchen-top prototype !!! - - The 'urea' as a 'solution' (to the problem - might be taikung the pi$$ - pun),... well I hadn't considered that angle in the 'electrolysis' separation/dissassociation method,... water to gas mixture. (versus separated gases as an experiment ) . So I'm really interested in the COST BENEFITS,... and the H2+O flow rates per KW. !!??? - - As a rule of thumb, I've always used 15KW per cubic meter of Hydrogen, (at atmospheric pressure) - - And it would appear that your (speggetti jar ??) unit @ 21v x 3A would produce around 4ltrs of H2+O per hour,.... so that jar might need a 'incontinent drip' - UREA FLOW - (pun) ...into the jar, to keep it topped up. !!! . Can't wait to see your stats/results on flows & costs
One potential option using the stainless steel mesh to increase the output is to find a plastic mesh and roll that between the 2 electrode layers together. Or find a paint that is durable and insulating enough and paint. Another section of the stainless steel mesh to do the same thing.
I constructed an electrolyzer with a stainless steel fire extinguisher + 12 stainless steel rods. Placed it on my little Ford pickup with a 2.0 L engine. After testing and measuring I came up with the 53% increase in mileage. Used baking soda for the mix. The downfall was when I came home one night I was so tired after a long day at work that I forgot to shut the power off to it and blew the fire extinguishers seams to bits. I considered it a success.
I was gonna praise your humor sense... but then I saw your channels subs and realized you probably were serious... lmao
What are you doing in a channel like this, bro?
@@TheChzoronzon who the hell cares? Get a big laugh my ass off over that one.
A Ford Courier?
@@clydedenby1436 ranger
Nice work, I would suggest using a pressure regulator valve if you were to redo the experiment so that if the hydrogen builds up to much within the fire extinguisher, it would be vented, preventing the extinguisher from going pop
Played around with HHO for a couple year's. I had best surface area production results with stainless steel wool. I never knew about urea. Thanks again......
Doesn't it go bad quickly ?
@@TazerGames industrial pot scrubbers. It's not that fine of a mesh and I used one for over a year and it still produced strong.
Use window screen, that really puts it out. It rolls like paper, and You can cut it with a box blade
I remember some experiments with the catalytic converter material as one of the electrodes that claimed excess energy, i think it was palladium.
@@GaryMcKinnonUFO Yes, this massively increased the hydrolysis efficiency. The palladium, induced a vibration on the water molecule which loosened its bonds. Man in Florida discovered this phenomenon.
pulse width modulation (PWM) circuitry, tune your cell to resonant frequency-gas is produced via capacitative discharge versus brute DC electrolysis. This type of gas is mono atomic H and O at highest entropy state (1L H2O/1800L gas). cell input is tuned to standing square wave modulation at high kilo-cycle frequencies. you will find harmonic 'sweet spots' where gas production is optimal at a fraction of the input wattage...so I have heard
your all right mate, really enjoy your way of getting stuff done. always head for my workshop to get active too after watching you rob, you have an honest intelligent ability and put me to shame. when all is said and done you make me an engineer, thanks teacher keep them coming.
The more videos you upload, the more jobs go on my whiteboard in my workshop haha. Keep up the good work, thanks.
What would happen if you try drinking 5 pints of beer and using the outcome for the electrolyte
you could light up your workroom lol
lol - glad I can help mate lol
Light up is one word I would use lol and probably not a nice gentle glow haha
Indication of liters (or fraction of liter) produced per minute would help to evaluate this very clever and simple assembly.
You literally just disproved the 1st law of thermodynamics. Subscribed.
Every day's a school day! Great presentation! Thank you.
I just wanted to say I've been watching you for a long time and man I have learned so much from you that I never would have learned from school. And I truly appreciate such... It is the most education and the most important education I think I've ever gotten in this life. And I think you good sir. Rock On & Prosper. Tesla would be proud
Cheap&easy 5 gallon bucket high volume, a) coil 4ft x 12 inch stainless, drop in bucket, it spins open lining the inside, put ovc pipe between wraps for max flow. b) 2 inch vertical pipe in center stuffed with all thread and washers or stainless mesh so it doesn't protrude below pipe. Tap top center anode for hydrogen with 1/2 inch PVC, tap outer ring for oxygn (water) oxygen/chlorine (sea water) oxygen/nitrogen (urea) etc. Its also a self regulating rig, filling center pipe, lowering water level until gas feed line empties.
Dear Rob,
this devise is superb in conclusion with photo voltaic. If you run PV and not consuming all electric power you can produse hydrogen with this generator and store it for later purposes. (Called Power to gas, but many said it's not eficient enough - 30% effectivity only ...) For example feed a petrol motor with hydrogen you get electric power and hot water as well. Or just use the gas for heating or cooking.
Great system! Thanks for the upload!
You cannot store Brown's gas. The oxidizer and the Hydrogen are never separate so the combustion mixture is always stoichiometric. That's why Brown's gas POPs really loudly, and Hydrogen merely whooshes. It would be suicidal to store brown's gas under any kind of pressure exceeding a balloon.
Great video, another simple way is to use 2 balls of wire wool. Put one (+ )inside a nylon sock and sink it in the solution. Then put another (-) on top this doesn’t need to be socked but it won’t hurt.
Then switch it on and watch the gas flow 🤪
Guess best press together the two steelwool lumps.
EXCELLENT.
No shortage of variety here.
THANKS
cheers mate
Very cool! I’ve been wondering about net positive electrolysis for donkey’s years and assumed it wasn’t possible because no one was talking about it! Thank you!
You get aught for naught, the urea takes energy to make :P
Water before separation is in the liquid phase, while water after recombination is in the vapour phase, which has lower internal energy due to the loss of hydrogen bonds, and a huge increase in entropy due to the extra space occupied. This is the apparent free energy.
You're never gonna get more energy out than in! That's just impossible.
@@martinbobak3009 That law is valid in closed systems not in open systems. Regards.
@@MrGoatflakes , urea can be replaced by urine ?.
I just saw today that Mazda has a bunch of new technology in production with Brown's Gas! Hooray!
Thank you for info,knowledge sharing is so great,if the rest of the world was like you we all could advance much faster
lol, when you mentioned sewing I was thinking that maybe you could start a side business making doilies!! lol. but in all seriousness, in the early days of computers they used to use seamstresses to wire up the rope memory because they were already highly skilled and the technique was basically identical.
You are such a great teacher, thank you so much
Very clever! Why are you so smart? I don’t remember how I came across your channel so many years ago, but I’m glad that I did.
I made one years ago and it worked great!
It was sheets of plexiglass, stainless steel and some rubber gaskets...
Very new at this hho systems. Thank you for the awesome ideas. You have no idea how much your design is going to help me.
Very informative. Something I will need to use sometime as I am off grid and in the bush.
Thank you! I gotta say you're super inspiring and easy to follow every time
For the spacers, you can cut half-inch PVC pipe lengthwise and use 3" lengths of this.
Prueba de poner entre ambas mallas de acero inoxidable una malla de plástico, y enrolla todo el conjunto, así logras un par de electrodos con gran área y pequeña separación. No necesitas Urea como electrolito, si la R de la celda es bien baja. Usa agua del grifo. Saludos de Américo Caorsi desde Tacuarembó - Uruguay, que siempre mira tus videos.
Thanks. The urea tidbit was fascinating
Possibly quite possibly you're my favorite garage scientist or Macgyver if that's not an insult, but my intention is absolutely a compliment
Great video! I would use stainless steel bolts, washers, and nuts to attach the wires the electrodes. And use rubber grommets in the wire holes before sealing.
I never knew about them usign Urea! AWESOME VIDEO! They sell a stainless 316 spatula grill set at homedepot and its super cheap! I just sand in 45 angles maximizing surface area! Great stuff!! Would love to see a Dry cell with Titanium plates. Someone is getting crazy performance with that.. I wonder what a graphene-coated TI would be? Spin coated maybe?
I try graphit coating on plate. As soon as you put electricity it is washing off right away. And i try to melt copper to liuquid phase and mix it whit graphite. It will not bond.
I've built a couple of home made HHO generators but I did not know that is was so much more efficient with urea! That is brilliant! Good work!
cheers mate - have a look at the new cell design i hav just posted on members
@@ThinkingandTinkering on it already👍
Sir, you did a great job. God bless you
I'm so happy your videos came up on my phone one day
Oh WOW, I'm glad I ordered 5 pounds of the urea now, that means I have a ton of uses for it, awesome video mate.
cheers mate - have fun!
What kind of urea is it? I'm new to this and I don't want to get the wrong brand/kind.
Loved this! If one had access to a lot of otherwise wasted animal livestock urine, the net energy gain might truly be positive. Run the electrical supply from solar pv and store the hydrogen for heating or transportation use.
Robert, a future video idea might be to put a cheap submersible pump in the electrolyzer. Hydrogen bubbles cling to the electrodes acting as an insulator reducing efficiency, vibrating the plates can free hydrogen and a pumped solution flowing over the plates from the bottom up could increase efficiency too. Eliminate the bubbles to increase efficiency and yield. Is there a best sonic or ultrasonic frequency for breaking the hydrogen bubbles free of the surface?
How do you separate out the oxygen from the gas stream? A cheap plastic or glass tube open at both ends would work to do this, silicone it to the inside spacers and a rubber seal at the top to the lid and put the O2 collection tube lower in the gas column.
Quick solution to that ultra sonic toothbrush maybe
Upside down terracotta clay pot with the usual plumbing and spacers. These are porous and act as an "ion membrane" -- it is conductive when saturated with electrolyte.
FYI I was partnered with Dr..Alex Brown who disappeared on his way to start a 50:50 diesel /water carburetor at the major US diesel manufacturer in Wisconsin. The scarier fact is they did a 3-page feature story about the deal in Business Week and ty to find the story in a periodical search at a library anywhere...you will not find that week's magazine...it has been expunged world wide..
Thank you! I am planning to make a Brown's gas generator. I know nothing about how to make these, but I am going to do it.
Brilliant Robert! Very interesting as usual!!
A few tips.
AdBlue is a urea solution for motor vehicles.
Urea is sold as a dry mix fertilizer under the market name Carbamide.
It is also sold at health product stores as an additive to health spa bath water.
Hi Rob, that was truly awesome, I’ve look at hydrogen generator over the year but as you so correctly say build one with all the plates and separators and gaskets and cleaning and on and on I never felt confident enough, your way is so simple I don’t know why I’ve not stumbled on it before, probably again like you say kept away from us, absolutely fantastic, thanks mate
Free energy at last. Thanks for changing the world.
This does look a lot easier than messing about with SSteel pipes , which is what I used many years ago while doing this sort of thing, never knew about the Urea angle though.
Excellent Robert, thank you sir.
The Stainless Lathe is a great idea, cheap and easy to get hold of at most good builders merchants.
To run a car you would just need to separate off the Hydrogen and store it, apparently, tanks with Lithium 6 Deuteride is best to absorb it, however getting this fairly harmless material can be a pain because it is used in nuclear bombs, however I did once hear of Carbon being made from Coconut shells and being used to absorb Methane in Tanks to run cars, maybe some sort of a carbon matrix would also work for Hydrogen to increase the storage capacity of tanks.
another interesting idea mate - cheers
I think a timed test to determine hydrogen volume produced & how much the assembly heats up at that voltage (wasted energy) should be in order.
Getting too hot at higher voltages seems to be a common plague among diy electrolyzers.
I got 10 years for electrolyzing baking soda water and cocain. I’ve struggled with clean energy. Jokes aside thanks for the informative video. We need this stuff out there more.
Key in the chuck is killin me man.
Thanks! I'm excited to give an alternative electrolyte a try
We call that mesh Ex Met' expanding metal. Get it from your builders merchant. Make sure to ask for stainless though!.
You are awesome, sir! Thank you
I built one of those in 2000 to run a lpg Landover it ended up been 2x 1.5m long and running 3 alts and 2 inverters to power it all. As long as you didnt have long hills you cld run it purely on water.
When you first mentioned the electrolyte being urea, I thought you pissed in the jar!😂😂
FASCINATING AND VERY WELL DONE
thanks
cheers mate
The gearbox on your grinder sounds like the Aston Martin gearbox that J.C. was struggling with in the mountain fog, lol.
I love this video. Can you suggest a safe and easy to make hydrogen storage method?
Maybe it would be super interesting to make a hydrolyzer with gas separation, using a membrane that is used in lead acid batteries!
I seen a vidya years ago of some bloke who had a computer controller and a sensor in the jar for the changing frequency of the water .so the computer would read the sensor and change the input sine wave to match this sweet spot he found . I cant find it .... oh and let's not forget Stanley Meyers from USA and also I'll add in Bob Lazar running his Corvette on Hydrogen
I remember this. It was around 44khz.
That was easy and perfect thank you.
mustard mate...beautifully simple and effective...I have had a love/hate relationship with EML for the last 30 years, lol, thankfully this is SS and not galvanized pain.
could you elaborate more on the mustard bit?
that right - awesome
1-2v at high amps works best. also high freq pulsed DC also does well
Thank you very much! I really appreciate simple things like this! I plan to cook and to heat water with hydrogen. But may i ask you a simple question: what do you think about Stanley Meyer's water fuel cell? Thx
SURFACE AREA is the key to improved productivity and there is no better SURFACE ARE to VOLUME ration than inexpensive Extruded Carbon Water Filter Cartridges from your local hardware store, and using a very inexpensive brush-less DC water Pump to circulate the UREA through the Cartridges and back to a Recovery tank, where the Gases can be easily extracted and used for combustion or whatever else you desire. Obviously you use a Twin Filter Cartridge Housing so that both Carbon Filters act as Anode & Cathode and linked in the center via the common urea feed from the pump.
The efficiency can be further improved by electroplating the Carbon Filters with very inexpensive NICKEL, which acts as a catalyst to the H2 production.
delawarecop What type of carbon filter do you mean?
thank you for another fine video
My favorite UA-cam channel
Awesome ! I need to try this too.
Besides urea you could use distilled water and potassium chloride as a catalyst.
Actually "superb" video info, to state the least! I really Do Like your vids, more than most others, I've peered at! And took more note, as being NEW at this ideal production of HHO!
Hi Robert, how long would you expect the stainless wire to last before replacement? Thanks
Matt
Best science teacher in the world.
lol - cheers mate
Nice and easy solution. Do you have any info on the mentioned energy output vs input. We should both stop smoking !
buy water buy sodas refill empty bottles with water take complete control of your water needs now. then your foods then transportation needs make your own on your own. recycle your plastics find new useful things never burn or put in garbage don't give others future problems. make your own electricity needs. make your own power packs, etc. don't retire just find a new direction to help yourself and others. make things for everyone simple use whatever makes it the best. create what you can see to do. magnets are cash money small or large use as money.
Have you played with the frequency? tuning to a resonance for the liquid may just split the molecules more efficiently.
Robert you are a star Cheers yet again!! Please can we see the uria working in a dry cell? Will it affect the grafoil? Many thanks
Excellent my friend, me gustò tu idea , realmente Facil, ademas es diferente a otros video sobre este tema.
Solo por eso me suscribì.
Sabes que tu idea se acerca mucho a lo natural.
Me refiero al panal de las abejas .
Gracias por compartir.
Rob its a good idea to condition the stainless by running the device for an extended period ,then replacing the electrolyte , repeat a few times , you get a brown sludge as the ss 'rusts' , I got rather a high chrome reading from doing this ,so use gloves and dispose of sludge safely ,, can get 2 liters a minute for 10 amps 13.8 volts dc using potasium H , 7 plate series cell , plates about 200 cm square , stuff goes bang louder than a shot gun .Stan Meyers ran VW buggy with on board generated HHO , then got poisoned ! ,. suspect he figured something else out though,to do with nitrogen . His cells were SS tubes inside tubes ,cut to have same resonant frequency,completely immersed in water , probably set up to be a capacitor in an LC resonating circuit .
That Rigol power supply is wonderfully grubby. Nice to see it getting real use.
lol - cheers mate
Great video! I didn't know this technology. Is urea electrolysis efficient only in alkaline electrolyte?
Thank you Robert
Hi Robert..me again! Another great video! Ive always wanted to build one of these. What an excellent way to do it. Much simpler than the ones Ive seen built before! Just to note, and I am dragging this from a dim and dusty memory so please don't quote me, but I remember reading that one could get a very good production of hydrogen from a solution of Caustic Soda. Sounds dangerous but I'm sure that was what they were using. Not as readily available as pee though! :o) xx
KOH or NaOH is used mate but you are right peeing in a bottle is just so much safer lol
@@ThinkingandTinkering Ah..yes..Chemistry not my strong point!
Robert have you tried the Urea with graphite plates. What thickness graphite plates were you using in the other vid? Just love your vids Robert
powerful video, thank you
I wonder why he gets his ideas....a cornucopia of ideas! very very cool education! THX
I found on the net an easy way to store and pressurize the gas is to have two cylinders one fitting into the other fill the bottom one with water and have the gas inlet come from the top outside and go to the bottom center to fill the second cylinder putting weights on the second cylinder top controls the pressure.
That's awesome Rob. Any developments as I am not sure how to search the members pages yet so it's a scroll through all job.
Thanks brother.
If you want to separate the hydrogen and oxygen, a good arrangement is some PVC pipes constructed in the basic shape of a "UU" with three uprights (If you imagine the center as one pipe). The Pipe on one side is the Cathode, the Pipe on the Other end is the Anode and the pipe in the center is for refilling. You can cap either end and store or vent as desired.
Point of Safety for everyone. I have heard that stainless steel releases Chromates in this process and is not something you want laying around and you shouldn't just pour it down the sink.
Do the chromates get released in the gas as well
This is why platinum plates are used for human consumption of the water and for nebulizing???
@@incognitoalias2808 Stainless steel consists of part chromium. Chromium oxidizes to chromium oxides during electrolysis. One of those oxides is chromium oxide VI ( hexavalent ).
HIGHLY CANCEROUS.
In civilized countries, you can't by law ( and shouldn't regardless ) just dispose of that "rust". There is special protocol for disposing it(!).
Don't breathe it in. Don't dump it outside/down the drain. Don't touch it with bare hands.
Don't use stainless steel as a waste electrode.
USE GRAPHITE RODS/PLATES. Best conductivity, best porousness, cheapest, most efficient. Breaks down into graphite powder/graphene.
@@CoincidenceTheorist No, they settle down as some kind of clay or so. Let it dry, scrap it into a bag and drop it of your local hazardous material disposal center.
Really not bad it like you said stainless steel mesh wil work .thankyou i wil try myself.
Hopefully you can build Joe Cell, and teach us how to make it. Thank you and more power professor!
Great! I am interested in Joe Cell too, regards.
very cool rob. The biggest complaint I've seen on urea electrolysis is the foaming that occurs. I don't think 60 watts is a rate that can produce on demand gas production for jeweler torches (most active users of home built electrolysis) So it's probably way less of an issue. The other issue at low volume will be storing it safely. Flashback arrestor and bubbler to some sort of bladder?
Separate the oxygen and hydrogen by isolating the positive and negative sides. That way no oxygen mixes with the hydrogen. Much safer. Then transfer the hydrogen to a bladder or use a compressor.
I hope history remembers you.
Alternate title: pissing* on an electric fence without the risk of electrocution.
A ren and stimpy episode
Correction please "pissing"
@@amasonstartup6876 done
lol
Human urea is the breakthrough bcause we consume too much salt.
Hi. I would use weed eaters string as spacers to roll both sheets at once. Should make a big diference. Keep the good knowledge roll.
I'd use some plastic dish mats or plastic poultry fence, fairly cheap, and really easy to use, just make a sandwich with plastic/metal/plastic/metal.
So I had some ceramic heating elements from 110v 1500watt space heater I salvage from the lot of ones that burnt in my house fire. The elements still worked reason I kept them. But on subject of hho generation on the cheap using salvaged materials I found that the isolated runs in the element when stacked using silicone to isolated each one from another alternative the dc on the elements 3 positive 2 negative then 3 negative 2 positive and so on. 12v 5amp power supply made massive amount of gas fairly quickly and its similar the the square plate generatiors but I think this is more efficient bc of more surface space but that's just my opinion
I don't understand why those with the know how and inclination don't do what Stan himself said he did. Adjustable frequency alternating current electrolysis under vacuum between set gapped plates. Just like em waves can disassociate h2o he claimed the same at certain frequency ac and feed back resonance within the cell breaking the bonds on mass. Think opera singer and wine glass.
Very interesting , What voltage are you using?
Robert, in a past video you added capacitors with diodes and ran the generator off the caps. Would you be able to do the same thing here to have a consistent flow of energy to the hydrogen generator to run it off a cars 12 V system ? Thank you for being on UTube
Thank you!
All good to know. Thank you
glad you liked it - cheers
INTERESTING - And another great kitchen-top prototype !!!
- - The 'urea' as a 'solution' (to the problem - might be taikung the pi$$ - pun),... well I hadn't considered that angle in the 'electrolysis' separation/dissassociation method,... water to gas mixture. (versus separated gases as an experiment )
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So I'm really interested in the COST BENEFITS,... and the H2+O flow rates per KW. !!???
- - As a rule of thumb, I've always used 15KW per cubic meter of Hydrogen, (at atmospheric pressure) - - And it would appear that your (speggetti jar ??) unit @ 21v x 3A would produce around 4ltrs of H2+O per hour,.... so that jar might need a 'incontinent drip' - UREA FLOW - (pun) ...into the jar, to keep it topped up. !!!
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Can't wait to see your stats/results on flows & costs
One potential option using the stainless steel mesh to increase the output is to find a plastic mesh and roll that between the 2 electrode layers together. Or find a paint that is durable and insulating enough and paint. Another section of the stainless steel mesh to do the same thing.
great info. thanks. How would you use that to run a gasoline generator?