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Toyota's Solid State Batteries have an energy density of 500WH/kg and have a range of around 1200km (745 miles). They have current plans to introduce the batteries to the market in 2027. Also they have been testing this battery at endurance races like Lemans. I will trust them over a Chinese company.
Thank you Sam for reporting another development in the growing hope for cleaner transportation. Cleaner transportation products become inevitable quickly when they become obviously cheaper that ICE. 🤗
This is a sign that what you're talking about is about to happen. It won't just revolutionize trucks and cars. Think more like: planes, trains, automobiles, and ships of all kinds.
If a town in US does not want battery production. Please bring to UK. We have the government in favour of EVs. We have the technical abilities. No tarrif.
Why would they go to the UK when they can go the Hungary and Czech who have much friendlier economic policies towards China? Plus, their labor cost is much lower than the UK.
The difference now is that they have the incentive to make this working ASAP. They have the infrastructure setup now, R&D with full funding and probably govt subsidies.
@@mikewallace8087 Oh dont worry about that because they have so many engineer working on it to the point the west cant even imagine lol Even Tesla use BYD heat pump patent and not only that Tesla is a Chinese joint venture investment startup. The US or Elon cant afford the manufacture plant. The irony is most people make fun of china saying china like to copycat....well Tesla is full of it.
There's a lot of different kinds of "solid state" batteries. This will be just one kind, and maybe not the best one either. It really doesn't matter which company or which type(s) of solid state batteries come first, they ARE coming. They will revolutionize the whole transportation sector.
Che ry itself last month in an official press con claimed 600 wh/kg energy density for this ultra amazing dry coated electrode solid battery cells for early 2027,this will lead to 800 miles of range for evs..
@@Mr11ESSE111 best in class upcoming 955 dry coated cathodes will have 40% more capacity compared with current 811 wet coated cathodes,meaning if you replace the current mainstream NMC ev cell(prismatic) in a pack with this amazing chey's dry electrode 955 solid state battery cells,your pack will see 40% increase in capacity but 40% less weight compared with current 811 NMC prismatic cells
@@cardboardboxification Why do you offend the woman? Maybe she's more specialized than we are in chemistry, for example, or maybe she's part of a collective that designs cars. You never know what's behind a name. But even if it were a cashier at a supermarket, you are not allowed to offend a person who has done nothing to you.
Che ry itself last month in an official press con claimed 600 wh/kg energy density for this ultra amazing dry coated electrode solid battery cells for early 2027,this will lead to 800 miles of range for evs...
@@davidfujkk8018 Ok, cool, but I'd rather have 400 mile range for a lot less money. Car would be faster because it would only have half the battery weight.
Well as always, seeing is believing. Maybe the best new battery tech available in five years from now will be coming from some company we have not even heard of yet.
Chery is probably the most underrated Chinese automotive company. People tend to forget that it is one of the earliest Chinese automotive players who tried to go global. It failed the first time, yet it never give up. In Indonesia, Chery first attempt failed miserably, you might think it will never come back, yet Chery made inroad in Indonesia again with EV, this time Chery is in much better shape.
not really. Chery is kind of a "failed" company in Chinese domestic market, though it had been famous for their chasis and damping settings. but Chinese comsumers have very similar preference toward cars with Americans, except we dont value Japanese cars just because they are cheap, Chery cars were more or less European style.
I drove Chery's ICE models a few times while living i Singapore. They are rightfully a failed company. It's drive an ancient Soviet car or a Tata before ever spending money on a Chery. With BYD, Xiaomi, and Xpeng - why risk the pain of the lowest production values on the market?
BTW Sam, regarding energy density: when it is expressed in terms of mass (Wh/kg) it is called Specific Energy. When it is expressed in volume (Wh/L or cm3) it is called Energy Density. Both measures, are of course measures of energy density. I think the latter should be called volumetric energy density.
@@nafizulsanko Space (volume) matters a lot in the design of EVs as well! A more compact battery means more cells (more energy) can be put in, increasing the range of the vehicle. So, volumetric density is important too, if not just as important as specific energy.
It is great news. Aptera has a partnership with Chery, so hopefully by 2026 when volume Aptera production begins, Chery will showcase their 2nd generation solid state batteries in the Aptera to provide 1,000 miles of range in the same battery pack that they are using for the initial 400 mile Launch Edition models.
With battery technology keep improving, the EV sure wins the ICE because： 1. Simplicity of design, 2. Lower maintenance cost, 3. No emissions 4. Noise reduction. 5. Can still function in flooding.
The only negative will be charging infrastructure. Large charging stations will need their own high-capacity connection to much-enhanced power grid. Otherwise, the fast charging speeds won't be realised (either vehicles will have to wait in turn at a hyper-fast charger, or take longer at one of several superfast chargers).
@@dogsbodyish8403 Think drive in drive out charging, along a moving escelator, where a robot charges the car as the car moves along a conveyor belt system, meaning zero waiting time. Each car drives onto the pick-up point and by the time that the conveyor belt stops, the car is charged. Also, it may become the norm for in-road Wi-Fi charging to be installed at T-junctions, roundabout entrances, pelican crossings, traffic lights and in congestion spots where cars are often stationary, to automatically top-up cars, if they need it, during a journey. The cost could be augmented by roadside solar and wind power electrical generation to harvest energy to charge up a roadside Tesla Megapack battery bank. For the use cases above, it should also be possible to design and install in-road steel percussive deceleration ribs, which harvest energy from cars rolling over them on the down-stroke and on the rebound-stroke. So, for each four wheeled vehicle, this would provide 4 percussive energy harvesting strokes. Such a system, once installed, should mean that the cost for each Wi-Fi charging opportunity may be only a few pence, each time the vehicle stops, and within a city environment, may mean that the cost of car travel could be virtually free because the infrastructure would be virtually maintenance free.
Synthetic fuel would be just as good for the environment. Carbon monoxide + hydrogen molecules. You take out carbon from the environment to make fuel, which is stored, then burnt. When burnt it puts that carbon back into the environment. So the more you produce and store, the lower the global carbon average would get. Then we can keep making ICE cars and help the environment. Then you wont be adding any extra carbon from fossil fuels. I'm not opposed to electric, but I don't want Lithium batteries that go bang. :)
Great video, thanks. This technology seems to be very important. With such a leap in energy density of batteries, manufacturers will have an interesting choice between increasing the range and reducing the weight of their EVs. Reducing weight will improve handling and increase efficiency. I suspect that they will offer both - e.g. cheap light cars with a 200-300 mile (320-480km) range and expensive heavier cars with a 700 mile (110km) range.
When a zone is 'industrial park' or 'special economic zone' or 'development zone', you can expect that area to have almost everything they need to horizontally integrate a production line. I witnessed this first hand, an 'art' zone have everything from cheap canvas, to paint of 300+ different shades of paint, ink, chalk, coloured sands, to massive amount of clay for crafting, and every single type of brush, caligraphy pen, scented wood for sculpture, etc etc. I also saw a electronic zone where you can literally bring a 3D model of a thing you want, and they will 3D print it for you in 40 minutes. Rolls and rolls of industrial length cable of all types, hundreds of different type of resistors sold by the thousands, and blank circuit boards that can be made to order on the spot, LED of all sizes, stripes, colours, and different type of cooling systems on display. I have not visited an 'EV zone' but just seeing some of the other stuff was mindblowing.
The key to China’s EV growth lies in the industrial policies of both national and local governments. In many cases, local support has been more extensive and critical to the development of Chinese EV producers than national policy. One notable example is Hefei, the capital of Anhui province, which became the site of BYD’s super factory in 2021. The Hefei government made tremendous efforts to support and facilitate BYD’s investment. The negotiation between BYD and the Hefei government took only 23 days, an unprecedented speed for any local Chinese government. When BYD claimed that the factory location was not flat enough for construction, the Hefei government mobilized over 1,000 trucks to move dirt and create a flat surface overnight.
China’s ability to implement a business decision, invest in new technology, build a factory and then ramp up production is phenomenal and its greatest strength. In France they would protest about it, in Germany unions sabotage it and in the UK sit around talking about it for 5 years until the product was out of date and the cost of implementation had doubled. European industry will never compete with China which is why we will all be driving BEV’s within a decade. ICE vehicles will be looked at the same way we look at steam driven traction engines today. Museum pieces from a bye-gone era, something for enthusiasts and weekend tinkerers. But no longer a serious means of transport.
Some chinese companies working on cutting edge tech like semiconductors now keep their development secret to avoid US NSA scrutiny and sanctions. They have learned from Huawei experience. Critical procurement is kept off the Swift system, a key tool used by the US NSA
Yes they are taking the improvements into account. What happens when the already strained supply of electricity needs to supply even more people? In the states thats not a problem but in europe its an imposibility that the supply of electricity will expand at a sufficient rate.
Perhaps Cherry have been clever and not pushed the target energy density too high for their first SS batteries. As a result they will be first to market and still offer huge improvements over current LFP batteries.
clever a making slitly improved NMC batteries still using a liquid or gel electroliyte and call them "solid" wheen the electrolyte isnt solid at all... lol
@@foxy5855 The electrolyte is likely to be at least semi-solid. There are many different kinds of solid state batteries in development. To get an idea of that look up Undecided with Matt Ferrel, he has at least one recent video about the different kinds of solid state batteries in the works.
I think the biggest upside of solid state batteries are not about having them in a pickup truck, but their potential usage in aviation. With these new solid state batteries, I think very soon, we will be seeing large electric planes flying in the sky.
Mr electric viking You are getting boring...........yet another battery storey or is it a bit of hype....please spare us there will be another storey next week and the week after and the week after and so on. Stick with the cars
yeah lots of people cant wait since late 90S when they first discovered and since then thy never sold the dentrites problem who totaly destroys the cels after less than 10 cycles... but wait.. chevi made them with an energy density of 280wh/kg instead 260wh/kg .. impressive 20wh more than what we have already with NCA-NMC batteries .. and .. 100wh/kg less than real solid state batteries ...and... still using a liquid electrolyte so what is solid in those batteries exept the marketing?? .lol congrats chevy.. try again
I have no doubt, ALL EV and storage batteries will be solid state within the next 3-5 years and will continue to gain in efficiency and cycle life until EV’s average 600-1000 mile ranges and be dirt cheap.
From what I can tell there is also potentially a big benefit for solid state batteries that I don't think you touched upon here and it would be interesting to see what the specifics are on these batteries in particular but - solid state batteries are regarded as having 4 to 5 times the cycle life of lithium ion - so - a much longer life. That could be a real lubricant to the uptake of EVs and could pave the way for much longer warranties on the cars/batteries
This is great. I want the EV,s to go full on and take over. However, we all have to calm down and understand that it will not be as fast as everybody thinks because only about 5% to 10% of the population purchases a brand new car. Most buy 2nd hand, which means there has to be a mature 2nd hand EV market first before ICE,s are extinct. This could take more years than everyone thinks. But hey, I am definitely loving it. Cannot wait. I for one will buy a new one, but I am fully aware most don’t want a new car or know it is cheaper to wait for the new car lovers to offload at 30% to 50% off the new car price.
I have only several questions. A. RANGE, B. Range. C. RANGE. D. RANGE. E charging time. F. RANGE. G. Length of life. H. How much does it cost to replace. I. RANGE. J. RANGE in North Dakota in February when it's 10 below zero and a thirty miles an hour wind blowing. Rest of the alphabet, RANGE.
This is very important news, and deserves research and verification (as do all sources of news on the net) . I have a colleague who is down 90% on his holdings in Quantumscape, a Solid State Battery company. If this story checks out (and no slight on the viking but anything related to this kind of a delta for technology I will always do my homework) then Quantumscape is doomed. My colleague is pretty flip about his holdings since he's basically wiped out and going long but a company like Quantumscape, whose battery is 800Wh/L and in the staging phase, not quite ready for mass production can be killed in the cradle by a company mass producing a cheaper, better alternative. CATL clocks in at 500 WH/kg and this one clocks in at 280 Wh/kg , but mass production means these things might go all over the place fast and hit first mover advantage. Fast, cheap or good. Pick one. Good reporting here, Viking. Thank you for the heads up. This is a big deal.
@@syletie 200Kwh @ 400 watt hours per kilo is 1250Kg. Throw away your calculator. AND om re-watching he quotes miles not kilometres, so noyt just generous I was being overly generous, so back to the 1Gwh battery @ 400 watts a kilo is in fact 5000 Kg. 5 tonnes of battery in a 1 tonne pickup. If governments had not subsidised this ridiculous 'battery car' idea, they would never had got off the ground and we would be very close to production hydrogen vehicles.
Che ry itself last month in an official press con claimed 600 wh/kg energy density for this ultra amazing dry coated electrode solid battery cells for early 2027,this will lead to 800 miles of range for evs.
Ya, I'll believe it when I see it. The power density needed to get a truck to go 700km is crazy high not to mention the charging needed to get it that high
For US trucking fleets topping the list are Power Plant expenses, which accounted for ~37%, followed by Exhaust systems at ~15 percent. Next biggest at 5 percent of costs were Brakes. ( Decisiv/TMC North American Service Event Benchmark Report 2021). 5% ain't nothing but EVs bring that cost to around half.
ev's 1/2 ? lol what is battery cost replacement ? it's not a Tesla where soccer mom drops the kids off at school ... trucks fully charged and drained every day, fully loaded trucks , batteries don't last
@@cardboardboxification Fleet managers are computing all that. As for 'fully loaded trucks' - you wish. Our transportation logistics stink: between 20% and 35% of truck miles in the United States are driven empty.
I think vehicle to grid will make ev's a no brainer. Question? If you charge your EV at work, while your home solar feeds in to the grid how much should the charge cost?
They increasingly resemble steam trains. There’s a generation coming who will find the roar of a Ferrari as strange to their ear as the toot-toot of a little puffer train 🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃
Its all about price and secondhand market (this has not been fixed) Maybe if we get a battery standard or a good way of fixing installed batteries has to be fixed in order to get the ev-marget working well.
Absolutely Awesome to be learning more about retiring Coal Power Plants, especially in China (wonder how they rank now as the world's formerly biggest global pollution producer. ... Maybe current rankings about current county pollution rankings might be interesting video clip, if reliable info was available ???
Formerly ?? they still are lol, where did you get that from ?? most of the world don't smog cars or have smog on diesel , only where government can fleece you out of money
Hopefully soon people will sleep better with solid state batteries in their EVS in their garage instead of LI . In saying that we don’t know what issues they might have. Time will tell .
Yes ev will dominate once speed of charge, energy density, cost, are more competitive than internal combustion. Government regulations just screw up that happening!
Here we go again. “Another shocker!” “Revolutionary,” blah blah blah. Same old crap, different day. Move on and report real evidence. Gas and diesel will still be around in a hundred years.
@@johnwong4424 look at how much damage they do. What could be used for green space, nature preserves, animal habitats are being destroyed to put up crap that destroys and damages the environment. Destroy the earth to save it. It’s like shooting yourself in the face to kill a fly. Retards and morons.
It's a whole other thing when you consider the amount of utility infrastructure construction and upgrading that'll need to happen, in order to meet that 2035 deadline. The world will have to accept that their electricity is produced at a nuclear plant.
In certain products, the scales of economy can override the advantages of wild competition. I suspect that solid state battery manufacturing also will face this type of challenge and no more than 10 producers will exist in China.
"Nio and Chery signed the strategic cooperation agreement on 2024 January 11. Together, they will construct and share battery swap station networks, develop battery swap standards, etc. According to Nio’s press release, it is impressed by Chery’s performance both in domestic and overseas markets."
You could have all the chargers you like ,but without major grid and power plant upgrades is a pipe dream with blackouts becoming regular. each home charging station to be practical would need 3 phase going to it.
I will believe it when it happens. Currently charging takes way too long (charging away from home). Currently tco of EVs are still higher than ICE Currently there is not enough electricity available to completely drop ICE. Curently EV energy emissions are just shifting from the exhaust pipe to the power station.
Let’s clarify that plant in Michigan. Im a free market guy. Our government was funding it for the Chinese government to own. The US government shouldn’t be funding anything for a foreign government to open a factory here. That’s why they fought against it. The money they spent before they were thankfully stopped was US taxpayers money. Here in WV the state built a Toyota factory in Buffalo for Toyota and over 30 years later Toyota hasn’t paid one penny of taxes here. But myself, a small business owner, if I don’t pay taxes I get shut down. Thank goodness for the people who stood up to government fraud!
Congrats, those jobs and that expertise are now back in China. Cities and counties in China are competing fiercely for the kind of opportunity the people of Michigan discarded.
thinking like this is what has handed the keys to the castle to China. Republicans attacked a number of projects that could have gotten us into the battery game. As to your comments on Toyota impact on WV, you need to do a lot more research. Thousands of jobs billions in investment, and they do pay federal income taxes and the property tax exemption etc was for 10-15 years
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solid battery will come in scale 2nd half of 2025. byd will be first among big players. tech problem solved. yet a lot of supply chain inventory to be used. byd got patent like blade battery.
It will be interesting to see how these hold up in the first total production vehicles. The news sounds very good, but as with all things solid state, I will only believe it once these are put in and working in real cars. So, for me, it's still waiting and seeing. Nevertheless, if this turns out to be accurate, it will be a tremendous milestone and accelerate ICE vehicles' demise.
It all seems very a chaotic. Gotion buys land, tries to put up a plant in the US, presumably to avoid tarifs, and then it gets shut down. Part owned by VW, nonetheless, who also was a partner in Quantum Scape, probably the company with the most US patents in solid state batteries. QS has been working on this for a long time, has developed prototypes, and is working on scaling up production...but their stock price has tanked. Yet, there is clearly a demand for better batteries, as no car company can come to the US market today with an EV that has less than 400KM of range.
This primitive one-year-only solid state battery model seems to be more of a matter of trying to get the factory to work right in time for the real thing next year (or the year after that). What are the advantages of a solid-state battery that doesn't cost less or have a higher energy density than the best li-ion? Maybe fill some contracts for high-performance military drones where temperature or durability matter? Maybe fast charging speed for highway trucks? Still, I'm so glad they beat Toyota into production (and that Toyota had to make a deal for foreigner solid state tech). Toyota was using solid state as a movable excuse for inaction.
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Toyota's Solid State Batteries have an energy density of 500WH/kg and have a range of around 1200km (745 miles). They have current plans to introduce the batteries to the market in 2027. Also they have been testing this battery at endurance races like Lemans. I will trust them over a Chinese company.
It's all coming together! solar, battery tech, EVs... love it. Just a few more years and everything will settle into place.
I'll believe it when I see an independent test and review of this battery from a reputable lab that knows what they are doing.
It's exciting time for EV technologies with new stuff every month
Thank you Sam for reporting another development in the growing hope for cleaner transportation. Cleaner transportation products become inevitable quickly when they become obviously cheaper that ICE. 🤗
This is a sign that what you're talking about is about to happen.
It won't just revolutionize trucks and cars.
Think more like: planes, trains, automobiles, and ships of all kinds.
If a town in US does not want battery production. Please bring to UK. We have the government in favour of EVs. We have the technical abilities. No tarrif.
We also have Clarkson who has polluted the mindset of so many car people in the UK saying that EVs are no good.
@@mb-3faze And a govn who hate Telsa...
Why would they go to the UK when they can go the Hungary and Czech who have much friendlier economic policies towards China? Plus, their labor cost is much lower than the UK.
@fdjw88 they don't like Czechs, because they like TW
@@mb-3faze I applaud Clarkson.
It only 5 years away was hearing that 20 years ago
The difference now is that they have the incentive to make this working ASAP. They have the infrastructure setup now, R&D with full funding and probably govt subsidies.
Very skeptical but optimistic. They will win the case
I won't hold my breath. But if they truly get them into their cars like they said....good for them and us.
In air plane too, it will revolutionised the battery industry because it is so light, large capacity for longer distance and fast to charge too.
For “us” depending which country you are from….
You are used to Western promises and speed.
@@alphaomega1969 yes in airplanes where the temperature can reach - 55 deg. F. . I'm laughing. They have to heat the cabin with electric too.
@@mikewallace8087 Oh dont worry about that because they have so many engineer working on it to the point the west cant even imagine lol
Even Tesla use BYD heat pump patent and not only that Tesla is a Chinese joint venture investment startup. The US or Elon cant afford the manufacture plant.
The irony is most people make fun of china saying china like to copycat....well Tesla is full of it.
Great channel, switche to electric a year ago, never going back
There's a lot of different kinds of "solid state" batteries.
This will be just one kind, and maybe not the best one either.
It really doesn't matter which company or which type(s) of solid state batteries come first, they ARE coming.
They will revolutionize the whole transportation sector.
Great news - for the whole world, well done Chery!
The world does not care about fake solutions. Clearly.
Not really because I won't drive a Chinese car.
Che ry itself last month in an official press con claimed 600 wh/kg energy density for this ultra amazing dry coated electrode solid battery cells for early 2027,this will lead to 800 miles of range for evs..
@@Mr11ESSE111 best in class upcoming 955 dry coated cathodes will have 40% more capacity compared with current 811 wet coated cathodes,meaning if you replace the current mainstream NMC ev cell(prismatic) in a pack with this amazing chey's dry electrode 955 solid state battery cells,your pack will see 40% increase in capacity but 40% less weight compared with current 811 NMC prismatic cells
Hi Sam ,I always said solid state batteries were the way to go and now this will be the final nail in the coffin for ice vehicles, I can't wait 🥳
lol
I bet you can't even fix a lawn mower
@@cardboardboxification Why do you offend the woman? Maybe she's more specialized than we are in chemistry, for example, or maybe she's part of a collective that designs cars. You never know what's behind a name. But even if it were a cashier at a supermarket, you are not allowed to offend a person who has done nothing to you.
US, EU, Japan: "We've got something awesome! We've got something awesome!"
China: 😏
wrr
Che ry itself last month in an official press con claimed 600 wh/kg energy density for this ultra amazing dry coated electrode solid battery cells for early 2027,this will lead to 800 miles of range for evs...
@@davidfujkk8018 Ok, cool, but I'd rather have 400 mile range for a lot less money. Car would be faster because it would only have half the battery weight.
@@incognitotorpedo42 And better handling! I love the power of my Model 3 Performance but it handles, well, like a 4500 lb car!
@@incognitotorpedo42This type of battery is for commercial vehicle and long distance Traveller
Well as always, seeing is believing. Maybe the best new battery tech available in five years from now will be coming from some company we have not even heard of yet.
Chery is probably the most underrated Chinese automotive company. People tend to forget that it is one of the earliest Chinese automotive players who tried to go global. It failed the first time, yet it never give up. In Indonesia, Chery first attempt failed miserably, you might think it will never come back, yet Chery made inroad in Indonesia again with EV, this time Chery is in much better shape.
They stole all the information they needed from Chevy years ago. Shame the USA can't get their act together, still as usual with western companies.
not really. Chery is kind of a "failed" company in Chinese domestic market, though it had been famous for their chasis and damping settings. but Chinese comsumers have very similar preference toward cars with Americans, except we dont value Japanese cars just because they are cheap, Chery cars were more or less European style.
I drove Chery's ICE models a few times while living i Singapore. They are rightfully a failed company. It's drive an ancient Soviet car or a Tata before ever spending money on a Chery.
With BYD, Xiaomi, and Xpeng - why risk the pain of the lowest production values on the market?
People don’t want any of their cars
@@danb5595 I guess they are better than walking, if you cannot afford ANYTHING else. But if you get an old North Korean truck, you'll be better off.
Sounds like a really positive development, we need it!
BTW Sam, regarding energy density: when it is expressed in terms of mass (Wh/kg) it is called Specific Energy. When it is expressed in volume (Wh/L or cm3) it is called Energy Density. Both measures, are of course measures of energy density. I think the latter should be called volumetric energy density.
Good clarification!
Their discussing cars so specific energy should be the correct term since we're hardly moving around fluids in motor vehicles
@@nafizulsanko Space (volume) matters a lot in the design of EVs as well! A more compact battery means more cells (more energy) can be put in, increasing the range of the vehicle. So, volumetric density is important too, if not just as important as specific energy.
The former can also be called massic energy. Volumic energy and massic energy is easy to remember.
It is great news. Aptera has a partnership with Chery, so hopefully by 2026 when volume Aptera production begins, Chery will showcase their 2nd generation solid state batteries in the Aptera to provide 1,000 miles of range in the same battery pack that they are using for the initial 400 mile Launch Edition models.
With battery technology keep improving, the EV sure wins the ICE because：
1. Simplicity of design,
2. Lower maintenance cost,
3. No emissions
4. Noise reduction.
5. Can still function in flooding.
The only negative will be charging infrastructure. Large charging stations will need their own high-capacity connection to much-enhanced power grid. Otherwise, the fast charging speeds won't be realised (either vehicles will have to wait in turn at a hyper-fast charger, or take longer at one of several superfast chargers).
@@dogsbodyish8403 They could do what NIO does and have battery swap stations. Problem then is that these stations would only work for their vehicles.
@@dogsbodyish8403 Think drive in drive out charging, along a moving escelator, where a robot charges the car as the car moves along a conveyor belt system, meaning zero waiting time. Each car drives onto the pick-up point and by the time that the conveyor belt stops, the car is charged.
Also, it may become the norm for in-road Wi-Fi charging to be installed at T-junctions, roundabout entrances, pelican crossings, traffic lights and in congestion spots where cars are often stationary, to automatically top-up cars, if they need it, during a journey.
The cost could be augmented by roadside solar and wind power electrical generation to harvest energy to charge up a roadside Tesla Megapack battery bank.
For the use cases above, it should also be possible to design and install in-road steel percussive deceleration ribs, which harvest energy from cars rolling over them on the down-stroke and on the rebound-stroke. So, for each four wheeled vehicle, this would provide 4 percussive energy harvesting strokes.
Such a system, once installed, should mean that the cost for each Wi-Fi charging opportunity may be only a few pence, each time the vehicle stops, and within a city environment, may mean that the cost of car travel could be virtually free because the infrastructure would be virtually maintenance free.
Synthetic fuel would be just as good for the environment. Carbon monoxide + hydrogen molecules. You take out carbon from the environment to make fuel, which is stored, then burnt. When burnt it puts that carbon back into the environment. So the more you produce and store, the lower the global carbon average would get. Then we can keep making ICE cars and help the environment. Then you wont be adding any extra carbon from fossil fuels. I'm not opposed to electric, but I don't want Lithium batteries that go bang. :)
@@dogsbodyish8403 That's just high speed charging though. Most homes will have 3-11 kW chargers that charge your vehicle over night.
Not only a bright future but exciting times! Best time in history to be alive!
Great video, thanks. This technology seems to be very important. With such a leap in energy density of batteries, manufacturers will have an interesting choice between increasing the range and reducing the weight of their EVs. Reducing weight will improve handling and increase efficiency. I suspect that they will offer both - e.g. cheap light cars with a 200-300 mile (320-480km) range and expensive heavier cars with a 700 mile (110km) range.
Speak for yourself - Anyone who supports China is going downtown
When a zone is 'industrial park' or 'special economic zone' or 'development zone', you can expect that area to have almost everything they need to horizontally integrate a production line.
I witnessed this first hand, an 'art' zone have everything from cheap canvas, to paint of 300+ different shades of paint, ink, chalk, coloured sands, to massive amount of clay for crafting, and every single type of brush, caligraphy pen, scented wood for sculpture, etc etc. I also saw a electronic zone where you can literally bring a 3D model of a thing you want, and they will 3D print it for you in 40 minutes. Rolls and rolls of industrial length cable of all types, hundreds of different type of resistors sold by the thousands, and blank circuit boards that can be made to order on the spot, LED of all sizes, stripes, colours, and different type of cooling systems on display.
I have not visited an 'EV zone' but just seeing some of the other stuff was mindblowing.
The key to China’s EV growth lies in the industrial policies of both national and local governments. In many cases, local support has been more extensive and critical to the development of Chinese EV producers than national policy.
One notable example is Hefei, the capital of Anhui province, which became the site of BYD’s super factory in 2021. The Hefei government made tremendous efforts to support and facilitate BYD’s investment. The negotiation between BYD and the Hefei government took only 23 days, an unprecedented speed for any local Chinese government. When BYD claimed that the factory location was not flat enough for construction, the Hefei government mobilized over 1,000 trucks to move dirt and create a flat surface overnight.
China’s ability to implement a business decision, invest in new technology, build a factory and then ramp up production is phenomenal and its greatest strength.
In France they would protest about it, in Germany unions sabotage it and in the UK sit around talking about it for 5 years until the product was out of date and the cost of implementation had doubled.
European industry will never compete with China which is why we will all be driving BEV’s within a decade. ICE vehicles will be looked at the same way we look at steam driven traction engines today. Museum pieces from a bye-gone era, something for enthusiasts and weekend tinkerers. But no longer a serious means of transport.
WE need to start developing these "special economic zones" in our own countries.
Otherwise we WILL fall farther behind!
Some chinese companies working on cutting edge tech like semiconductors now keep their development secret to avoid US NSA scrutiny and sanctions. They have learned from Huawei experience. Critical procurement is kept off the Swift system, a key tool used by the US NSA
Lol sure it is
@@Wongseifu548 Yeah keep coping there westoid
You are absolutely correct. It’s best to remain silent lest they arouse the wrath of the devil again.
just like how they are so quiet about tofu construction
@@cardboardboxificationmeanwhile the west is quiet about deconstructing Middle East through direct support for warfare...
Yes they are taking the improvements into account. What happens when the already strained supply of electricity needs to supply even more people? In the states thats not a problem but in europe its an imposibility that the supply of electricity will expand at a sufficient rate.
You are on fire with all this content. Just one after another. 👏
Not another one 🚙🔥🔥🔥
China is his info supplier.
OhhMG, did you understand his video? Apparently not that much. It's a prototype with 10% eng density improvement.
Call it: revolutionary!!
@@sfuchs Each battery revision requires true longevity testing.
@@sfuchs if that revolutionary battery is produced , it will be as dangerous as a Top Fuel dragster.
Perhaps Cherry have been clever and not pushed the target energy density too high for their first SS batteries. As a result they will be first to market and still offer huge improvements over current LFP batteries.
clever a making slitly improved NMC batteries still using a liquid or gel electroliyte and call them "solid" wheen the electrolyte isnt solid at all... lol
@@foxy5855
The electrolyte is likely to be at least semi-solid.
There are many different kinds of solid state batteries in development.
To get an idea of that look up Undecided with Matt Ferrel, he has at least one recent video about the different kinds of solid state batteries in the works.
Could name those Woohoo Batteries.
Oh yeah, the future is gonna be great. We'll all drive around in disposable EV's.
Thanks Sam for another super interesting video. I'm learning so much from your videos.
How to shill/B.S...??...
I think the biggest upside of solid state batteries are not about having them in a pickup truck, but their potential usage in aviation. With these new solid state batteries, I think very soon, we will be seeing large electric planes flying in the sky.
not in your lifetime
Definitely exciting news. The future is so bright for electric. 👍
The VW link is quite interesting. Hope to see these in VW EVs soon!
I can’t wait for solid state battery
Mr electric viking
You are getting boring...........yet another battery storey or is it a bit of hype....please spare us there will be another storey next week and the week after and the week after and so on.
Stick with the cars
yeah lots of people cant wait since late 90S when they first discovered and since then thy never sold the dentrites problem who totaly destroys the cels after less than 10 cycles... but wait.. chevi made them with an energy density of 280wh/kg instead 260wh/kg .. impressive 20wh more than what we have already with NCA-NMC batteries .. and .. 100wh/kg less than real solid state batteries ...and... still using a liquid electrolyte so what is solid in those batteries exept the marketing?? .lol congrats chevy.. try again
@@davidharbutt4375 I like the battery news.
@@davidharbutt4375 its story, go back to school
More emerging battery technology, please. Love the weekly updates.
Keep up the fantastic work. Love , peace & good health to you & your family.
Cmon man. When’s the g6 vids coming out 👍🏼😁
I have no doubt, ALL EV and storage batteries will be solid state within the next 3-5 years and will continue to gain in efficiency and cycle life until EV’s average 600-1000 mile ranges and be dirt cheap.
Ya ok bud
There is no chance at all of it happening that quickly.
Have you priced topsoil lately?
Gosh 500 wH /kg density will be fantastic, and I think the tipping point for all things ICE.
wh/kg you mean, yes indeed good if/when we get it
Haven’t heard about this company in a long time
Thanks Sam, interesting review. Solid Star Batteries is the main reason why I'm holding off buying an EV.
From what I can tell there is also potentially a big benefit for solid state batteries that I don't think you touched upon here and it would be interesting to see what the specifics are on these batteries in particular but - solid state batteries are regarded as having 4 to 5 times the cycle life of lithium ion - so - a much longer life. That could be a real lubricant to the uptake of EVs and could pave the way for much longer warranties on the cars/batteries
Great video OnPoint comment and insight
Much appreciated
Solid state charges faster than gas cars. Can put charging stations at stop lights. Can charge while driving too.
This is great. I want the EV,s to go full on and take over. However, we all have to calm down and understand that it will not be as fast as everybody thinks because only about 5% to 10% of the population purchases a brand new car. Most buy 2nd hand, which means there has to be a mature 2nd hand EV market first before ICE,s are extinct. This could take more years than everyone thinks. But hey, I am definitely loving it. Cannot wait. I for one will buy a new one, but I am fully aware most don’t want a new car or know it is cheaper to wait for the new car lovers to offload at 30% to 50% off the new car price.
Looking forward to your NorthVolt review.
I have only several questions. A. RANGE, B. Range. C. RANGE. D. RANGE. E charging time. F. RANGE. G. Length of life. H. How much does it cost to replace. I. RANGE. J. RANGE in North Dakota in February when it's 10 below zero and a thirty miles an hour wind blowing. Rest of the alphabet, RANGE.
woohoo is a crazy name
Chemistry undisclosed, could very well be LMFP if they solved the tech issues for the 2nd generation.
The fourth generation.
This is very important news, and deserves research and verification (as do all sources of news on the net) . I have a colleague who is down 90% on his holdings in Quantumscape, a Solid State Battery company. If this story checks out (and no slight on the viking but anything related to this kind of a delta for technology I will always do my homework) then Quantumscape is doomed. My colleague is pretty flip about his holdings since he's basically wiped out and going long but a company like Quantumscape, whose battery is 800Wh/L and in the staging phase, not quite ready for mass production can be killed in the cradle by a company mass producing a cheaper, better alternative. CATL clocks in at 500 WH/kg and this one clocks in at 280 Wh/kg , but mass production means these things might go all over the place fast and hit first mover advantage. Fast, cheap or good. Pick one. Good reporting here, Viking. Thank you for the heads up. This is a big deal.
I have been wondering about Quantumspace too - invested a little a while ago - any news on their progress?
Chery used to be the low budget / low value car manufacturer in China, but they are quickly moving up the value chain.
400 watt hours per kilo = 2.5 tonnes of Battery.
200Kwh battery =700Kg
@@syletie 200Kwh @ 400 watt hours per kilo is 1250Kg. Throw away your calculator. AND om re-watching he quotes miles not kilometres, so noyt just generous I was being overly generous, so back to the 1Gwh battery @ 400 watts a kilo is in fact 5000 Kg. 5 tonnes of battery in a 1 tonne pickup. If governments had not subsidised this ridiculous 'battery car' idea, they would never had got off the ground and we would be very close to production hydrogen vehicles.
Che ry itself last month in an official press con claimed 600 wh/kg energy density for this ultra amazing dry coated electrode solid battery cells for early 2027,this will lead to 800 miles of range for evs.
Ya, I'll believe it when I see it. The power density needed to get a truck to go 700km is crazy high not to mention the charging needed to get it that high
For US trucking fleets topping the list are Power Plant expenses, which accounted for ~37%, followed by Exhaust systems at ~15 percent. Next biggest at 5 percent of costs were Brakes. ( Decisiv/TMC North American Service Event Benchmark Report 2021). 5% ain't nothing but EVs bring that cost to around half.
ev's 1/2 ? lol what is battery cost replacement ? it's not a Tesla where soccer mom drops the kids off at school ...
trucks fully charged and drained every day, fully loaded trucks , batteries don't last
@@cardboardboxification Fleet managers are computing all that. As for 'fully loaded trucks' - you wish. Our transportation logistics stink: between 20% and 35% of truck miles in the United States are driven empty.
I think vehicle to grid will make ev's a no brainer. Question? If you charge your EV at work, while your home solar feeds in to the grid how much should the charge cost?
The hype around XAI93x is real! Thanks for the informative video!
The Viking says ---> Flying cars next week....🤦♂🤣
I genuinely think XAI93x will be the breakthrough for this run
If it does not turn out to be a fraud
Obvious scam 😂
I believe XAI93x is a scam.
Bots
With each passing day, ICE vehicles increasingly resemble dinosaurs.
When a natural disaster hits, how are you going to move?
They increasingly resemble steam trains. There’s a generation coming who will find the roar of a Ferrari as strange to their ear as the toot-toot of a little puffer train 🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃
You are delusional.
@@brycem0 Domestic/local community solar PV and wind turbines with large battery backup
Everybody loves dinosaurs...
Its all about price and secondhand market (this has not been fixed) Maybe if we get a battery standard or a good way of fixing installed batteries has to be fixed in order to get the ev-marget working well.
It will be interesting to see degradation tests of solid state batteries and also what the optimum charge level will be.
Absolutely Awesome to be learning more about retiring Coal Power Plants, especially in China (wonder how they rank now as the world's formerly biggest global pollution producer. ... Maybe current rankings about current county pollution rankings might be interesting video clip, if reliable info was available ???
Formerly ?? they still are lol, where did you get that from ??
most of the world don't smog cars or have smog on diesel , only where government can fleece you out of money
Nice! It will be amazing when evs have 700 miles of range
It sounds too good to be true.
Hopefully soon people will sleep better with solid state batteries in their EVS in their garage instead of LI . In saying that we don’t know what issues they might have. Time will tell .
It’s just a matter of time before the whole world transitions
yes , like Jeff to Jane
Yes ev will dominate once speed of charge, energy density, cost, are more competitive than internal combustion. Government regulations just screw up that happening!
What are solid-state batteries? Are they dry on the inside? Are existing lithium batteries wet?
Let's see how many cycles these new batteries last.
Also, how much they cost.
Also, how fast they charge.
Here we go again. “Another shocker!” “Revolutionary,” blah blah blah. Same old crap, different day. Move on and report real evidence. Gas and diesel will still be around in a hundred years.
With time, cost will be down. Look at solar panels
Some said 3 million +/-5%.
@@johnwong4424 look at how much damage they do. What could be used for green space, nature preserves, animal habitats are being destroyed to put up crap that destroys and damages the environment.
Destroy the earth to save it. It’s like shooting yourself in the face to kill a fly. Retards and morons.
Just watched a US ExPat interview acknowledge Spy worked at Chevy and stole IP then developed Chery .... Interesting 🤔
If higher density batteries are planned for 2025 that means they already exist and are in the testing and tweaking stage. Very exciting news.
This news sounds like energon to transformers 😊
Surprising it's Cherry breaking this. Would have put my money on LG.
Now Cherry, please make us also a Quantum computer, Fusion reactor and Cancer cure pillow.
Electric car is the best negative investment for your money.
It's a whole other thing when you consider the amount of utility infrastructure construction and upgrading that'll need to happen, in order to meet that 2035 deadline. The world will have to accept that their electricity is produced at a nuclear plant.
We're about to get a revolutionary new technology that will change everything? Hasn't that been the case for the last 20 years?
it will be for the next 100 years also , world is going to be F---Ked in 200 years from now when 30 billion people on the planet and resources dry up
Fingers crossed!!!
awesome !!!!!!!!
We will see
As lithium, I look forward to an end product, tried, tested, with teething problems sorted, by the initial consumers.
Infrastructure is key here. Energy density deoesn’t matter if we have 5 minute charging. But we will need chargers that can charge at 800kw.
more coal power plant for the demand
An 800KW charger is easy to make, a battery that accepts this much power is harder.
Have they solved the dendrite problem with solid state batteries?
Your video on XAI93x was super helpful! I’m ready to invest and ride the wave!
I believe XAI93x is a scam
In certain products, the scales of economy can override the advantages of wild competition. I suspect that solid state battery manufacturing also will face this type of challenge and no more than 10 producers will exist in China.
Mate,
Why don't we see any of the US or European OEM's investing in and building battery plants?
They slept very well ….Greetings from Germany
Big Oil will do everything to stop this technology.....
Many u.s. battery plants starting production in a few months to a few years.
Because of the fossil fuel industry lobbyists and legacy auto dragging their feet to extinction. Kodak!
"Planet of the Humans" documentary by Mikey Moore on the sustainable illusion
"Nio and Chery signed the strategic cooperation agreement on 2024 January 11. Together, they will construct and share battery swap station networks, develop battery swap standards, etc. According to Nio’s press release, it is impressed by Chery’s performance both in domestic and overseas markets."
As a Tesla owner, I don’t see the elimination of ice cars, gasoline, and diesel there still will be a need
You could have all the chargers you like ,but without major grid and power plant upgrades is a pipe dream with blackouts becoming regular. each home charging station to be practical would need 3 phase going to it.
clowns of today haven't experienced No Power yet ,
I will believe it when it happens.
Currently charging takes way too long (charging away from home).
Currently tco of EVs are still higher than ICE
Currently there is not enough electricity available to completely drop ICE.
Curently EV energy emissions are just shifting from the exhaust pipe to the power station.
There will be a tipping point where there's not enough market for gas and it becomes hard to find a gas station.
Let’s clarify that plant in Michigan. Im a free market guy. Our government was funding it for the Chinese government to own. The US government shouldn’t be funding anything for a foreign government to open a factory here. That’s why they fought against it. The money they spent before they were thankfully stopped was US taxpayers money. Here in WV the state built a Toyota factory in Buffalo for Toyota and over 30 years later Toyota hasn’t paid one penny of taxes here. But myself, a small business owner, if I don’t pay taxes I get shut down. Thank goodness for the people who stood up to government fraud!
Congrats, those jobs and that expertise are now back in China.
Cities and counties in China are competing fiercely for the kind of opportunity the people of Michigan discarded.
thinking like this is what has handed the keys to the castle to China. Republicans attacked a number of projects that could have gotten us into the battery game. As to your comments on Toyota impact on WV, you need to do a lot more research. Thousands of jobs billions in investment, and they do pay federal income taxes and the property tax exemption etc was for 10-15 years
If those sprawling production lines dont 'save the world'. What could save it?
Thanks for the breakdown! Just a quick off-topic question: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). What's the best way to send them to Binance?
NIO already have a semi solid state battery..
solid battery will come in scale 2nd half of 2025.
byd will be first among big players.
tech problem solved. yet a lot of supply chain inventory to be used.
byd got patent like blade battery.
It will be interesting to see how these hold up in the first total production vehicles. The news sounds very good, but as with all things solid state, I will only believe it once these are put in and working in real cars. So, for me, it's still waiting and seeing. Nevertheless, if this turns out to be accurate, it will be a tremendous milestone and accelerate ICE vehicles' demise.
It all seems very a chaotic. Gotion buys land, tries to put up a plant in the US, presumably to avoid tarifs, and then it gets shut down. Part owned by VW, nonetheless, who also was a partner in Quantum Scape, probably the company with the most US patents in solid state batteries. QS has been working on this for a long time, has developed prototypes, and is working on scaling up production...but their stock price has tanked. Yet, there is clearly a demand for better batteries, as no car company can come to the US market today with an EV that has less than 400KM of range.
I just recently heard from someone calling himself a viking that Solid state was many years away?
This primitive one-year-only solid state battery model seems to be more of a matter of trying to get the factory to work right in time for the real thing next year (or the year after that). What are the advantages of a solid-state battery that doesn't cost less or have a higher energy density than the best li-ion? Maybe fill some contracts for high-performance military drones where temperature or durability matter? Maybe fast charging speed for highway trucks?
Still, I'm so glad they beat Toyota into production (and that Toyota had to make a deal for foreigner solid state tech). Toyota was using solid state as a movable excuse for inaction.