Choosing a live vocal mic… what to pick?

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  • Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
  • How do you find the right mic for you? You WON’T know just from a UA-cam video. You have to TRY it to see if it fits you! So… what do you look for? And how do you test it? We’ll test it out in today’s video.
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    Mics in this video:
    Lewitt W950: www.zzounds.com/a--3980957/it...
    www.sweetwater.com/store/deta...
    Heil PR37: amzn.to/3QhG5x9
    sE V7: www.zzounds.com/a--3980957/it...
    sweetwater.sjv.io/baVMO6
    Other vocal mics that often fit:
    Shure Beta 87c: www.zzounds.com/a--3980957/it...
    sweetwater.sjv.io/R5bM0y
    Shure SM58: www.zzounds.com/a--3980957/it...
    sweetwater.sjv.io/MmbMKN
    Neumann KMS 105: www.zzounds.com/a--3980957/it...
    sweetwater.sjv.io/3eenzB
    Sennheiser e835: www.zzounds.com/a--3980957/it...
    sweetwater.sjv.io/xkZgJO
    Sennheiser e945: www.zzounds.com/a--3980957/it...
    sweetwater.sjv.io/rQXmEB
    DPA d:facto: sweetwater.sjv.io/DK3vWG
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    00:00 Intro
    01:19 Katie mic #1
    02:48 Katie mic #2
    03:29 Katie mic #3
    04:21 Jory mic #1
    05:12 Jory mic #2
    05:39 Jory mic #3
    06:22 Katie mic #1 + drums
    06:46 Katie mic #2 + drums
    07:08 Katie mic #3 + drums
    07:34 Jory mic #1 + drums
    07:52 Jory mic #2 + drums
    08:10 Jory mic #3 + drums
    08:29 Mic #1 features
    09:10 Jory mic #1 cardioid
    09:29 Jory mic #1 supercardioid
    09:44 Louder sound source = less bleed
    10:08 Mic #1 reveal!
    10:21 Mic #2 reveal!
    10:34 Mic #3 reveal!
    11:07 FREE Guide - How to Lead Your Church Sound Team
    11:25 Live Mixing Field Guide
    11:51 Audio for Worship Leaders Course
    12:25 Listening back + observations
    16:29 Thoughts on mic #1
    17:17 Thoughts on mic #2
    17:32 Thoughts on mic #3
    17:45 More money = better results?
    18:23 My takeaways
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  • @audioglenngineer
    @audioglenngineer 11 місяців тому +2

    I’ve worked with a few engineers that exposed me to the idea of using the same make and model of mics for your handhelds and headsets. At first, I thought it was silly, having come from a studio environment into the live world, but it can streamline the tuning process and make the physics of the room somewhat easier to deal with. You are of course compromising some of the priorities you consider in this video. Along with that - keeping an eye on your gain structure and making sure your kinds of mics are living in relatively the same world is also one of those surprises you encounter in live sound. And lastly, relevant to the two things I just mentioned, it is amazing what you can provoke from your singer by subtly adjusting their monitor mix (usually without them knowing or noticing). There are so many ways to work a microphone, but often what we need as the engineers, dictated by the physics of the room, is for the musicians to be consistently up on the mic. Yet, if they mix their monitoring to reflect a different style of working the mic or if they don’t have enough pitch reference, it can really screw things up. This is often where a good singer starts having pitch problems or you can’t get enough gain before feedback, because they have their voice turned up so loud they feel like they have to back off the mic.

  • @DeltaWhiskeyBravo13579
    @DeltaWhiskeyBravo13579 Місяць тому

    Excellent demo James, as always.
    I was intrigued by how the sound changed when the Lewitt W950 was switched to supercardioid how it affected the audio. In a good way in opinion.
    Most of my mics are now wireless, my favorite is the Sennheiser XSW2 865.
    If only I could get my people to stand closer to the mic I'd be happier.
    Thanks to you and your assistants,
    from some random Church audio video guy in PA.
    PS there's a nasty rumor since I don't have much upstairs, I have to use plug-in EQ on my Studio One DAW used for my Livestream processing.

  • @BarnabY07
    @BarnabY07 10 місяців тому +2

    We need more blind test like this 🎉🎉🎉.
    First time listening the v7 in a blind test.
    Very pedagogic video. Thanks.

    • @AttawayAudio
      @AttawayAudio  10 місяців тому +2

      You're welcome! And thank you for the SAT-level word.

  • @kulastrio
    @kulastrio 11 місяців тому +1

    I super liked Mic 2!

  • @guyincascade
    @guyincascade 11 місяців тому +2

    We use sE7 wireless Caps and sE7 wired mics. They have great side rejection (bleed control).

  • @wattanakaewmanee1516
    @wattanakaewmanee1516 11 місяців тому +1

    I believe there is a compressor in the signal chain too. Try to judge the drum rejection while the singer is singing, not during the silence period between or at the end of singing.

  • @1998youngluv
    @1998youngluv 7 місяців тому +1

    I love this! :) but what version of Be Thou My Vision is Katie singing?? The Hallelujahs are so pretty!!

  • @Dannys.channel
    @Dannys.channel 11 місяців тому

    On the male mic 1 is really good for blocking drum bleed while he sang but got loud when he stopped. Mic 2 and 3 too

  • @orsoncorson9083
    @orsoncorson9083 10 місяців тому +1

    Great singers!

    • @AttawayAudio
      @AttawayAudio  10 місяців тому

      I know, right? I'm blessed with very talented friends

  • @markperreault3351
    @markperreault3351 11 місяців тому

    I didn't really notice a difference between the three for the vocalists but it seemed to me as though drum bleed was strongest on mic 3.
    Possibly place mic 1(?) in supercardiod and redirect it's position a little so as not to point in the direction of the drums.
    Could also hear the guitars in all three mics FWIW.

  • @gatherstudio5219
    @gatherstudio5219 11 місяців тому +1

    For Katie I liked the 2nd

  • @damon_aaron
    @damon_aaron 10 місяців тому

    I preferred the Heil on Katie and the SE on Jory. I didn’t expect that as I really like Lewitt mics.

    • @AttawayAudio
      @AttawayAudio  10 місяців тому

      Yet another reason why I made the test more "blind"... at least for y'all :)

  • @robertvondarth1730
    @robertvondarth1730 7 місяців тому

    I recommend high pass filters for all vocals, cut everything above 4 k, run serial compressors, and a doubler way down low.
    Before everything else

  • @Dannys.channel
    @Dannys.channel 11 місяців тому

    Mic 3 is way clearer for her but it needs more headroom for those beautiful frequencies that are louder

  • @Dannys.channel
    @Dannys.channel 11 місяців тому +1

    Wow mic 1 for drum bleed. Very good

  • @Dannys.channel
    @Dannys.channel 11 місяців тому

    Heil pr37 is a 7 out of 10 but it was good for the female. For the male it's the supercardiod mic you used

  • @zionworship5047
    @zionworship5047 11 місяців тому +1

    🙌

  • @joeldrzycimski1629
    @joeldrzycimski1629 6 місяців тому

    Addison!!! (JHS Show watcher here.)

  • @Binatone704
    @Binatone704 11 місяців тому

    I am using Sound-craft Si-3 Expressions Please tell me Ideal settings of FX for Vocal singing Mic

  • @ZDDNK
    @ZDDNK 11 місяців тому

    I think in first place, i would high shelf boost on female's voice, before comparing all mics, because in all three comparisons - voice was a bit dull.

  • @germanboza
    @germanboza 11 місяців тому

    I liked MIC3 on her voice, MIC1 on his voice the most.

  • @Dannys.channel
    @Dannys.channel 11 місяців тому +1

    Choose senheisers 945 and 965

  • @Dannys.channel
    @Dannys.channel 11 місяців тому

    But it gets stuck in a frequency I wanted to hear.

  • @Avablink162
    @Avablink162 10 місяців тому

    Hey there can you make a video explaining how to avoid clipping on the master bus?
    I'm having issues with this

    • @AttawayAudio
      @AttawayAudio  10 місяців тому

      Turn up your amplifiers by 10 dB. Then you'll have 10 dB of headroom on your master bus.

    • @Avablink162
      @Avablink162 10 місяців тому

      @@AttawayAudio I am unfortunately using active speakers so no external amps are present

  • @Dannys.channel
    @Dannys.channel 11 місяців тому

    Mic 1 sounds best with the male on supercardiod

  • @akaniclarence
    @akaniclarence 11 місяців тому

    What is the name of the software you are using on the phone

    • @AttawayAudio
      @AttawayAudio  11 місяців тому +2

      It's the SQ Mixpad software for the Allen & Heath SQ series boards

  • @JoryValley
    @JoryValley 8 місяців тому

    Curious is jory his first or last name? James Jory here; farmer/sound tech/worship leader in montana.

  • @Dannys.channel
    @Dannys.channel 11 місяців тому

    Mic 2 good but not as much rejection

  • @HeOvercame1633
    @HeOvercame1633 11 місяців тому +1

    now is that THE Addison?????? spotted out in the jungle ;)

  • @Dannys.channel
    @Dannys.channel 11 місяців тому +2

    Mic one for the male isn't good for him. Makes him try to compensate for something he's not hearing.

  • @user-xj5dj5lp3y
    @user-xj5dj5lp3y 3 місяці тому

    Akd best cheapest live mic

  • @JustinZak7
    @JustinZak7 3 місяці тому

    Is that Addison on drums!?!?

  • @Dannys.channel
    @Dannys.channel 11 місяців тому

    Mic 3 good but drums are a bit pider than 2

  • @Dannys.channel
    @Dannys.channel 11 місяців тому

    Mic two is better so far..

  • @Dannys.channel
    @Dannys.channel 11 місяців тому

    Mic 3 is better but the cuts didn't help with the vibrato or chest voice he was really giving

  • @18CC
    @18CC 3 місяці тому

    2 and 3 are ok, 1 is bad.

  • @Dannys.channel
    @Dannys.channel 11 місяців тому

    Mic two took away some mids for the male

  • @Dannys.channel
    @Dannys.channel 11 місяців тому +1

    I don't like the lewitt

  • @thomasricks5737
    @thomasricks5737 11 місяців тому +1

    HEY CAN I SET UP A PHONE CALL WITH YOU