Apologies for my mic! I was a little under the weather when recording this and I also got a new mic and hadn’t completely set it up to my old ones settings
no prob great video but One of the most accurate lists ive seen in a long while where most of it cant disagree at all with the units on here but I kind of disagree with the number 1 pick. I feel AGL Teen Trunks into SSJ Trunks deserved the slot more he was an ok unit for 2021 but once 7th ani hit he just became unusable and he aged out so fast it was king od unreal how fast
Guys!!! I think number one on this list should be 9th anniversary Beast Gohan, he should get an EZA now!!! Same with the (NEW) Transformation UI Goku!!! 😮 😮 🤯 🤯 🔥 🔥 🔥 💯 💯 💯
for me is still good .. he is a deff stacker so is perfect . I have agl frieza too but he suck now he can't tank nothing + his power gone after 7 turns
I think the worst thing about INT SSJ2 Angel Goku and TEQ SSJ2 Vegeta is they're WAY Overdue for an EZA, and units released much later than them such as STR Vegito and PHYS Buutenks along with TEQ Ulthan and INT Gotenks are got their EZAs first
ok, but I hate that TEQ SSJ2 Vegeta is on this list, he was good when he came out, then had another time to shine when INT Majin Vegeta came out, he was able to tank the big bosses of that time (Broly and Omega, He could tank their supers and live) as long as he had orbs, which was decently consistent. His only problem, was that he didn't output a whole lot of damage, as opposed to INT SSJ3 Goku, who was irrelevant decently quick, and the only time he became ok was when PHYS SSJ3 came out, and that was only for 2 months, he can't preform in any of the redzones.
Which is easy with Future Gohan on the team, Future Gohan gets his full passive when you’re under 70% HP and their earliest time to fuse is when you’re under 70%. Seriously, Blue Duos entire problem is solved by Gohan.
Alternate suggestion: put them in slot 3. Sure it takes longer, but it is way better to have both turn conditions available when the entrance buff runs out.
Hope LR namek goku gets an EZA soon and see him comeback even more op than before. Especially both TUR SSJ3 goku and TUR majin vegeta from 2019 as well, because they are both the last 2019 TUR units that haven't gotten their EZAs
@@starboy_0_0 The thing is... AGL Trunks had the stats to survive most 7th anni Red Zone normals if you got the additionnals in base, Super Vegeta was mediocre in SBRs where he was supposed to shine and straight up dong in LFE events, the man was practically unusable anywhere, Trunks at least had theory backing him up.
LR AGL Frieza should be here instead of LR INT Namek Goku Even now, units today with def stacking on 18ki don't age very well While INT Namek Goku has it on 12 ki, Frieza also struggled getting to 18 ki which means he gets destoryed completely if you don't get any stacks
@@damienlopez5504 Yes but he struggles for ki when facing extreme class enemies. Which is what RZ has. So in most cases he isn't able to launch his 18 ki SA
Super Saiyan 4 Goku DOES NOT deserve to be on this list. I don't know what the hell you're smoking lol. He can still very easily live STR gogeta blues super which Is over 3million If you weren't aware. He still has amazing support In his standby, He gives you a full heal and his team Is beyond stacked while having amazing links. He can still do 30million+ 100% chance to crit 18 kis, On his first turn of full power where he has his guard he's still literally Invincible. I could go on and on, You can argue he has gotten worse(Because like no shit he's a year old) But saying he's completely fell of or that he even should make a list like this Is hilariously wrong. Like this seriously just shows me you've never tried him yourself In any of the new post 9th ani content. He Is still absolutely an amazing character.
I only watched this bc is was datruth and I got to tell you, this guy has a good brain lol. Finally someone is paying attention.. thank you bro for the “PASSION”!! Put passion in its place, that will lead to success.. you hilarious by the way.. keep it up
It was kinda sad to see LR Agl Super Saiyain Blue Goku and Vegeta(Vegito Fusion) to fall off really quickly, I still have him rainbowed but he just can’t keep up with characters like Gogeta(SSJ-SSJB) age like LR STR SSJ Future Gohan.
They haven’t really fallen off, no one’s using them right. You put Int Future Gohan on the team, let Future Gohan get hit to get under 70% HP where he gets full passive, and boom now they’re ready to fuse as early as possible.
It’s cuz they made vegito really good but also incredibly hard to get out. Add that with the blue duo not being that good and after the intro runs out they are as good as dead in almost every fight after dismal future redzone
@@cameronharding6055everyone was using him right, it’s literally that the blue duo just wasn’t that good. Vegito was and is still a very good unit, but compared to teq zamasu the blue duo just did nothing and could easily be killed
I remember using int ssj goku when redzone came out and he was decent for the initial 3 stages and bojack. Hopefully he gets a crazy eza this or next year
as you said hes actually still okay in the oldest hard events if you give him the teq ulthan treatment and slap a way for him to actually stack defense in his kit and the guy would destroy the game
They were ass at release. They had dogshit conditions to meet to be top 5 in the game and you actually suffered using them at nodupe. Get outta here with the copium. You cannot convince me that units that lose damage reduction in an era where fights would last around 8-10 turns and they still couldnt boost form. @@rmullins9368
Honeslt for agl blue vegito, i think one of his biggest problems was that he stacked def on his ultra. I feel like he shouldve had that swapped to his super while the atk stack goes on ultra instead
I feel like namek goku could be argued to be off the list since he could actually have been used for the first cell max fight He had 2 phases that were weak to build up, then the ending was a teq phase that killed everyone, including the 7th year lr's, so it was damage him as much as possible before he could super to many times Namek goku was able to damage him very decently in slot 2/3 due to his chance to additional in that slot at the time, so I think the fact that he had some staying power at all after the 2022 power creep should get him off here
I actually regretted using some of my stones on the blue bois when they dropped, I think I only got one copy of him and 2 copies of the fusion Zamasu (who I wished I had used those other stones on more now lol). I just feel my Zamasu outperforms them by leaps and miles. I know I'm not seeing them at their best at only %55... but I feel they should still be doing better for being a big celebration unit.
Well, there’s a simple solution to their issue… Int Future Gohans EZA gets his DR when you’re under 70%, and the Blue Bois fuse at their earliest when you’re under 70%. See where I’m going with this?
I agree with most of these except the 5th years blue fusions, mostly cause they are a great 3rd slot and because their eza makes them great for dodge even more so if you build them up around dodge which has led me to use them in my most recent team
The worst part about the blue boys is that they really just needed another turn of guard or stacking in 12 ki to be great, they keep releasing units that realease on UltraSA, but unless it's a great stack, it will never be enough. Int SS4 Goku is still usable tbh, but there's no other GT/SS4 unit now that doesn't get folded in hard content, which makes it impossible for him to activate his most important links.
I agree with most of the list but namku did have a very good utility in the first stage in the cell max event so I cant really agree when frieza didn't even have any uses like goku did when harder events came out. Although the year 5s "aged" out I cant agree when they have EZAs which make them still runnable today all and all good video
Imo, I think the TEQ SS3 Broly was more of a dead on arrival as opposed to a unit that aged out, & the EZA didn't narrow it down to a significant extent since the biggest flaw he had in the kit before he got his EZA, is still there after he got the EZA. Damage was good sure, but raw APT is meaningless when you're take a good amount of damage from normals and type-disadvantaged supers
Great Video, agree with allmost all of the takes. I would have liked to see either the 3rd anniversary LR EZA's since i feel like they have been powercrept in the same Celebration, yet released still somewhat strong
Oh man, I love the video and the concept. I was expecting DFE AGL Trunks and LR Future Gohan & Trunks as better picks over some units on here, but still fine nonetheless.
for a video that was made 8 hours ago its great video i can understand you acknowledge the EZAs that few units on this list was and is still great ( we dont talk about ssj3 teq broly what so ever) but there are two units that i disagree for the spot you put them on but thats just my opinion
fun fact. the redzone is absolutely impossible without any LR which came out in the last 2 years. Even a lot of the TUR who got their EZA's in the past 2 years get absolutely cooked in the red zone. Only the newest Dokkan fest and other celebration units can stand a chance in those events. The eza and the new battleroads were meant to give longterm player new content and new ways to farm stones, as Dokkans f2p system only appealed to new players while the longterm ones were left behind. But those content releases were absolutely pay 2 win. I am the only one in my friend circle who managed to finish all red zones by now. I have some friends who are f2p like me, playing this game for 5+ years and are unable to finish the newer sbr or even the first stages of the red zones. Those events are literally a pay 2 win events.
Hi! Reposting this from Datruthdt video so you may possibly see it but I recommend visually showing "Pre-EZA" on the screen whenever you're displaying a unit that way the audience will know which version of the unit you're about to discuss. That should also help clear confusion much easier than having to clarify it vocally all the time.
Super Kaioken Goku EZA -Leader Skill (Extreme): Otherworld Warriors and PHY type Ki+3 and HP, ATK & DEF +130% Passive Skill (Extreme): -Ki +4 and ATK & DEF +200% when HP is 50% or above -Ki+2 and ATK & DEF +150,and reduces damage received by 75% when HP is 50% or less -Plus an additional ATK & DEF +100% for 6 turns from the character's entry turn -Changes STR ki spheres to PHY ki spheres -ATK & DEF +10% per PHY ki sphere obtained -Great chance of performing a critical hit with 5 or more PHY ki spheres obtained -Chance of launching an additional supper attack +15% with each attack received (Up to 60%) -Super Class allies ATK & DEF + 70% - Super Kaioken Kamehameha (Extreme): Massively raises ATK, greatly raises DEF for 1 turn and causes immense damage to enemy while sacrificing 2% HP
The Blue Bros are definitely fatally flawed. But Vegito Blue himself is still as amazing as ever. Bro never lets me down. The only problem is overcoming the hurdle of getting the fusion off. But once you do, I’d still consider him one of the best units in the game.
19:20 Love the video, just wanna say we got 2 blue Goku Vegetas before this guy. The resurrection F saga ones and the LR Tournament of power ones that released long long long ago
Same for me. I Generally just Hate The Concept of Fusion in General (the fact that its So damn Powerful to the Point its Quite literally a Deus-Ex Machina for the Plot and its also something they can casually do), so its probably not for the same reason as you do but yeah it is Very satisfiying.
I was really surprised that the TUR Dokkanfest Phy GT Kid Goku and INT TUR GT Adult Vegeta weren't included on the list, imo they fell off incredibly quick. Maybe include them in a possible part 2 video?
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Another problem with str super vegeta is that on global he released like two months before agl blue evo vegeta EZA’d and his leader was a full 170% to pure Saiyans so even one of his strongest traits got almost instantly replaced
i really wish that the blue goku + vegeta had their entrance animation removed, and the benefits from it be permanent. that simple change would buff them to no end
Str kefla was good until red zone, i beat the god events with kefla. She was also better than phy berus the whole time. Edit str kefla helped me in sbr and esbr also😅
I haven’t played Dokkan in years, the last good unit I guess you could say that I had was the LR Final Form Cooler. Who is probably now completely overshadowed
As Much as I use and like the EZA Blue Vegito/Gogeta, I can agree they’re not aging well. As he said from turns 1-3, they’re practically useless. And when they do go blue, it take a while for them to stack which sucks because in most events you don’t have time to stack because of how strong the bosses/enemies are.
Not even close to the worst aging (Not in order but still a more reasonable list) 1. Both janembas teq and LR 2. EZA LR Godki 3. PHY Goku Black 4. Teq LR Goku (angel) and vegeta (angel)/Gogeta 5. TEQ LR ssj2 Gohan (Bojack Movie) 6. TEQ nobody can beat me when Im (super #17) 7. STR ssj goku (w/ Z fighters) 8. LR Int Android #17 (& Universe 7) [PRE-ZA] 9. INT Goku & Piccolo (Deadzone movie) 10. STR EZA Broly Extra: Practically any Teq Extreme unit prior to 2023 (ESPECIALLY 2022) This video isn’t even worst aging these are just mainstream units that don’t hit hard because of power creep that raises to provide scaling content but these are still usable in different high end events such as past red zones, where as these units above are just down right egregious all over
The SS2s were solid for the entire year after they released. Especially Vegeta, they were probably both top 10 TURs. Idk if that warrants worst aging units.
Lr agl potara Bois is the most astounding falloff in dokkan history. 2 months and they were suddenly hard to run. I still love them and will throw them on a team but unfused they are almost exclusively a liability
No LR Goku frieza is criminal. They were unbelievably powerful and everyone was losing their shit, then they died so fast they got one of the quickest LR ezas of all time and then they were still shit
INT SSJ4 and AGL Blue Goku/Vegeta fell off for the same reason, they were designed to be exactly good enough to get you through the early phases of their fights in order to get you to their transformation, where they are massively overkill for their fights, so much so that INT FP SSJ4 and AGL Vegito Blue are still top characters honestly, but the way they were designed meant as soon as their base forms got powercrept at all, they were immediately out, because who cares if Vegito and FP SSJ4 are gods, their base forms get one shot by a light breeze in their general direction
When playing certain battles most of the characters [such as ultimate clash in my experience] nearly every unit gets one shotted. Even though the levels are in the 100s training them doesn't make a difference. In the end they are treated like dumpster fire.
Man it's so sad to see AGL VB fall off so hard just because of the base form, if they were better and AGL VB himself had a bit more damage I'd say AGL VB would be like Top 6/7 right now
Great video, but what about units who were just terrible as soon as they released like phy raditz. Bro was aged when he came out so does that not count?
I'm not caught up at all on dokkan due to not really playing much as of recent,, but I'm sure Lr namek goku will get a cracked EZA buff that would bring them back into the meta or something Xd
LR Namek Goku is on here because he gets blasted by Red Zone but not FP Frieza??? The guy who gets buffs against Super Class enemies??? The guy who only stacks DEF on 18 Ki??? Make it make sense lmao, Nameku was at least a decent option for Cell Max when that event dropped
Also it’s straight up false Namek Goku “aged” in red zone when red zone was actually objectively easier for units like Namek Goku due to being a different type of event. It’s a long event. 2021 Pure Saiyan ESBR had two enemies hitting above 800K turn 1 while having less stats since no 200% leader. Look at Broly’s turn 1. A pathetic 575K SA. In fact this was so weak that Dokkan World was able to put Namek Goku slot 1 against Broly both his first and second appearances, get blasted both times before stacking defense, and still survive. In other words Namek Goku survived with the worst possible luck ever. Now if there wasn’t the worst possible luck ever, it would straight up be very consistent to survive with Namek Goku slot 1 first two appearances. If you did that against PS ESBR, you’re guaranteed dead. So how could a unit “age”when for this unit specifically, it got objectively easier? Sure red zone was harder for most unit due to the switch from short to long but for Namek Goku it got objectively easier.
I agree with everything on this list until Super Vegeta he wasn't that good on release, but he was a god in sbr and is still a god in sbr in my opinion, he has never fallen off
Disagree with #8 with Majin Vegeta and Angel Goku. Especially Majin Vegeta. No particular reason, i just remember having to use them and coming through for me more than a year after release.
Angel ssj3 Goku for sure but majin Vegeta counterpart aged a lot better because he was far better defensively and his guard was just better than dodge chance They were not forgettable if you were there for the release, though they weren’t too hype
really wish they would take a break from releasing brand new units, or divide the dev team or whatever so they can focus on not only bringing in new eza's for older units that have been needing them but also super eza the units that got eza's with no additional defense. A lot of the collection is starting to become unusable almost entirely in new content.
Apologies for my mic! I was a little under the weather when recording this and I also got a new mic and hadn’t completely set it up to my old ones settings
no prob great video but One of the most accurate lists ive seen in a long while where most of it cant disagree at all with the units on here but I kind of disagree with the number 1 pick. I feel AGL Teen Trunks into SSJ Trunks deserved the slot more he was an ok unit for 2021 but once 7th ani hit he just became unusable and he aged out so fast it was king od unreal how fast
Surprised raditz was not in this vid. Guess he was a little to forgotten
what song in the background on tur blue fusions
You're telling me the only units that I managed to rainbow on release are the most fraudulent units? Typical of my luck.
Absolutely relatable
They'll get great super and regular ezas hopefully 😅
😂
exactly me too
Lmaooo 😭
Guys!!! I think number one on this list should be 9th anniversary Beast Gohan, he should get an EZA now!!! Same with the (NEW) Transformation UI Goku!!! 😮 😮 🤯 🤯 🔥 🔥 🔥 💯 💯 💯
Yeah!!!! They need to drop the DDL with their EZAs rn
Honestly I prefer UIO over UI in terms of looks
They should also give us all the copies of beast gohan and UI, EZA with one copy is not enough. 🗣️💯💯💯🦅🦅🦅
Yea they should get a proper broken EZA that was no no to happen 3 years later (I know your plan.. and I’m all for it 😊)
Can’t age if he doesn’t get on global 🔥
Lr namek Goku is my favorite unit. His animations are so good and it's my favorite moment in all of DBZ.
same bro you're the goat
for me is still good .. he is a deff stacker so is perfect . I have agl frieza too but he suck now he can't tank nothing + his power gone after 7 turns
I think the worst thing about INT SSJ2 Angel Goku and TEQ SSJ2 Vegeta is they're WAY Overdue for an EZA, and units released much later than them such as STR Vegito and PHYS Buutenks along with TEQ Ulthan and INT Gotenks are got their EZAs first
They will get their EZA when Kid Buu gets a LR card (NOT HAPPENING)
Dawg i thought ir was gonna happen when ssj3 goku and majin buu came out
Well they’re in the top 10 oldest dfe/lrs without a eza so it could be soon. Better not be before my boy lr teq ssj broly tho
ok, but I hate that TEQ SSJ2 Vegeta is on this list, he was good when he came out, then had another time to shine when INT Majin Vegeta came out, he was able to tank the big bosses of that time (Broly and Omega, He could tank their supers and live) as long as he had orbs, which was decently consistent. His only problem, was that he didn't output a whole lot of damage, as opposed to INT SSJ3 Goku, who was irrelevant decently quick, and the only time he became ok was when PHYS SSJ3 came out, and that was only for 2 months, he can't preform in any of the redzones.
Str rageku needs an eza more than anyone
The only way to have the Agl Blue boys to be relevant to me is get Vegito out as fast as possible
Which is easy with Future Gohan on the team, Future Gohan gets his full passive when you’re under 70% HP and their earliest time to fuse is when you’re under 70%. Seriously, Blue Duos entire problem is solved by Gohan.
@@cameronharding6055any plans on how to get under 70%?
With a eza they will be top 5 in the game
Alternate suggestion: put them in slot 3. Sure it takes longer, but it is way better to have both turn conditions available when the entrance buff runs out.
With the intro and in slot 1 they CAN be ok, but if turn 5 you can't get vegito, they suck badly. Vegito is still a god
The finger pointing vegeta being the hardest to fall is the most accurate and funniest thing ever.
Hope LR namek goku gets an EZA soon and see him comeback even more op than before. Especially both TUR SSJ3 goku and TUR majin vegeta from 2019 as well, because they are both the last 2019 TUR units that haven't gotten their EZAs
I was hoping so hard they eza'd golden week like destined rivals 6
Agl trunks was the red zone victim. Relying on additionals for defense in base and getting worse after transforming.
agl trunks definitely shouldve been on here, he felt horrible within a month
He should be #1 not super veagta
@@starboy_0_0 The thing is... AGL Trunks had the stats to survive most 7th anni Red Zone normals if you got the additionnals in base, Super Vegeta was mediocre in SBRs where he was supposed to shine and straight up dong in LFE events, the man was practically unusable anywhere, Trunks at least had theory backing him up.
the fact that most of these units used to be the best when they released (except for ssj3 broly and pan)
Just makes this kinda sad.
I thought PHY Raditz would be on the list, but i guess you can’t “age” if you were never good in the first place😂😂
phy raditz was stillborn on release
And yet ssj3 broly made it 💀
I bet his EZA is gonna be amazing, but he will never have a good team, no extreme team needs him. Hes only good for WT
We don't tolerate Chaditz slander here😂
LR AGL Frieza should be here instead of LR INT Namek Goku
Even now, units today with def stacking on 18ki don't age very well
While INT Namek Goku has it on 12 ki, Frieza also struggled getting to 18 ki which means he gets destoryed completely if you don't get any stacks
Doesn't Frieza still do more damage and u run these characters on certain teams any way
@@damienlopez5504 Yes but he struggles for ki when facing extreme class enemies. Which is what RZ has. So in most cases he isn't able to launch his 18 ki SA
Super Saiyan 4 Goku DOES NOT deserve to be on this list. I don't know what the hell you're smoking lol. He can still very easily live STR gogeta blues super which Is over 3million If you weren't aware. He still has amazing support In his standby, He gives you a full heal and his team Is beyond stacked while having amazing links. He can still do 30million+ 100% chance to crit 18 kis, On his first turn of full power where he has his guard he's still literally Invincible. I could go on and on, You can argue he has gotten worse(Because like no shit he's a year old) But saying he's completely fell of or that he even should make a list like this Is hilariously wrong.
Like this seriously just shows me you've never tried him yourself In any of the new post 9th ani content. He Is still absolutely an amazing character.
Exactly
I only watched this bc is was datruth and I got to tell you, this guy has a good brain lol. Finally someone is paying attention.. thank you bro for the “PASSION”!! Put passion in its place, that will lead to success.. you hilarious by the way.. keep it up
teq bardock was trying to defy his fate but couldn’t avoid being mid 😢
BRO you got the legend Truth reacting to the vid!
I just saw from your comment lmao
I was honestly expecting INT SSJ4 Gogeta here but still great vid nevertheless
I thought INT SSJ4 was pretty good for a minute, even though PHY Angel Frieza and TEQ Gohan aged better
It was kinda sad to see LR Agl Super Saiyain Blue Goku and Vegeta(Vegito Fusion) to fall off really quickly, I still have him rainbowed but he just can’t keep up with characters like Gogeta(SSJ-SSJB) age like LR STR SSJ Future Gohan.
I’ve used so much stones only for them to fall off hard😭
How did that happened :/
They haven’t really fallen off, no one’s using them right. You put Int Future Gohan on the team, let Future Gohan get hit to get under 70% HP where he gets full passive, and boom now they’re ready to fuse as early as possible.
It’s cuz they made vegito really good but also incredibly hard to get out. Add that with the blue duo not being that good and after the intro runs out they are as good as dead in almost every fight after dismal future redzone
@@cameronharding6055everyone was using him right, it’s literally that the blue duo just wasn’t that good. Vegito was and is still a very good unit, but compared to teq zamasu the blue duo just did nothing and could easily be killed
I remember using int ssj goku when redzone came out and he was decent for the initial 3 stages and bojack. Hopefully he gets a crazy eza this or next year
Hopefully!
as you said hes actually still okay in the oldest hard events if you give him the teq ulthan treatment and slap a way for him to actually stack defense in his kit and the guy would destroy the game
He actually got back in the meta for a bit after the cell max release
I'm boutta turbulate if he does
He actually became a whole lot better when Cell Max dropped
Sad STR Kid Buu and PHY SSJ2 Goku weren't mentioned in this, they got nuked by red zone too lol
That they were fine.
Dude the agl lr frauds (cooler movie) should be here fr
they were ass at release 😂
@@yoitssinny. Lmao what are u smoking, they were a top 5 unit in the game, yeah they aged horribly but they were amazing on release
They are still good in most of the modes
They were ass at release. They had dogshit conditions to meet to be top 5 in the game and you actually suffered using them at nodupe. Get outta here with the copium.
You cannot convince me that units that lose damage reduction in an era where fights would last around 8-10 turns and they still couldnt boost form.
@@rmullins9368
Anyone saying they were good are just actually smoking the highest cocaine possible.
Glad they gave the 5 Year fusions justice after their EZA
I just watched this yesterday and now truths reacted to it 😂 that’s crazy
Truth gave you the spotlight and you did well!
Honeslt for agl blue vegito, i think one of his biggest problems was that he stacked def on his ultra. I feel like he shouldve had that swapped to his super while the atk stack goes on ultra instead
I feel like namek goku could be argued to be off the list since he could actually have been used for the first cell max fight
He had 2 phases that were weak to build up, then the ending was a teq phase that killed everyone, including the 7th year lr's, so it was damage him as much as possible before he could super to many times
Namek goku was able to damage him very decently in slot 2/3 due to his chance to additional in that slot at the time, so I think the fact that he had some staying power at all after the 2022 power creep should get him off here
I actually regretted using some of my stones on the blue bois when they dropped, I think I only got one copy of him and 2 copies of the fusion Zamasu (who I wished I had used those other stones on more now lol). I just feel my Zamasu outperforms them by leaps and miles. I know I'm not seeing them at their best at only %55... but I feel they should still be doing better for being a big celebration unit.
Yeah zamasu has aged much better than them. He’s also one of the few units to break the Teq extreme curse.
Well, there’s a simple solution to their issue… Int Future Gohans EZA gets his DR when you’re under 70%, and the Blue Bois fuse at their earliest when you’re under 70%. See where I’m going with this?
My rainbowed TEQ Zamasu is a goat for real.
I agree with most of these except the 5th years blue fusions, mostly cause they are a great 3rd slot and because their eza makes them great for dodge even more so if you build them up around dodge which has led me to use them in my most recent team
The worst part about the blue boys is that they really just needed another turn of guard or stacking in 12 ki to be great, they keep releasing units that realease on UltraSA, but unless it's a great stack, it will never be enough.
Int SS4 Goku is still usable tbh, but there's no other GT/SS4 unit now that doesn't get folded in hard content, which makes it impossible for him to activate his most important links.
I agree with most of the list but namku did have a very good utility in the first stage in the cell max event so I cant really agree when frieza didn't even have any uses like goku did when harder events came out. Although the year 5s "aged" out I cant agree when they have EZAs which make them still runnable today all and all good video
Just discovered this channel and I've got to say this is a lot better than just reading text on a screen it gives it more life I guess? Idk :p
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Just found this channel very very good and extremely good editing 👏
Imo, I think the TEQ SS3 Broly was more of a dead on arrival as opposed to a unit that aged out, & the EZA didn't narrow it down to a significant extent since the biggest flaw he had in the kit before he got his EZA, is still there after he got the EZA.
Damage was good sure, but raw APT is meaningless when you're take a good amount of damage from normals and type-disadvantaged supers
Great Video, agree with allmost all of the takes. I would have liked to see either the 3rd anniversary LR EZA's since i feel like they have been powercrept in the same Celebration, yet released still somewhat strong
Oh man, I love the video and the concept. I was expecting DFE AGL Trunks and LR Future Gohan & Trunks as better picks over some units on here, but still fine nonetheless.
Keep up the hard work. Someone datruthdt guy send me here
I wouldnt call Super Vegeta's EZA subpar. Even though hes my favorite unit it was pretty fair. Hes really just an amazing esbr/sbr cannon.
Just found you thru DaTruth. Good work on your videos. Keep it up my guy
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for a video that was made 8 hours ago its great video i can understand you acknowledge the EZAs that few units on this list was and is still great ( we dont talk about ssj3 teq broly what so ever) but there are two units that i disagree for the spot you put them on but thats just my opinion
Damn man you're sick?hope you're doing well
Thanks, I greatly appreciate it!
Here from datruths video
fun fact. the redzone is absolutely impossible without any LR which came out in the last 2 years. Even a lot of the TUR who got their EZA's in the past 2 years get absolutely cooked in the red zone. Only the newest Dokkan fest and other celebration units can stand a chance in those events. The eza and the new battleroads were meant to give longterm player new content and new ways to farm stones, as Dokkans f2p system only appealed to new players while the longterm ones were left behind. But those content releases were absolutely pay 2 win. I am the only one in my friend circle who managed to finish all red zones by now. I have some friends who are f2p like me, playing this game for 5+ years and are unable to finish the newer sbr or even the first stages of the red zones. Those events are literally a pay 2 win events.
I'm hoping you reach 10k very soon. For the cutting skills you put in it'd be well deserved❤🎉
Thanks so much!!!
Hi! Reposting this from Datruthdt video so you may possibly see it but I recommend visually showing "Pre-EZA" on the screen whenever you're displaying a unit that way the audience will know which version of the unit you're about to discuss. That should also help clear confusion much easier than having to clarify it vocally all the time.
This is a good point, I’ll try to remember that
Super Kaioken Goku EZA
-Leader Skill (Extreme): Otherworld Warriors and PHY type Ki+3 and HP, ATK & DEF +130%
Passive Skill (Extreme):
-Ki +4 and ATK & DEF +200% when HP is 50% or above
-Ki+2 and ATK & DEF +150,and reduces damage received by 75% when HP is 50% or less
-Plus an additional ATK & DEF +100% for 6 turns from the character's entry turn
-Changes STR ki spheres to PHY ki spheres
-ATK & DEF +10% per PHY ki sphere obtained
-Great chance of performing a critical hit with 5 or more PHY ki spheres obtained
-Chance of launching an additional supper attack +15% with each attack received (Up to 60%)
-Super Class allies ATK & DEF + 70%
- Super Kaioken Kamehameha (Extreme): Massively raises ATK, greatly raises DEF for 1 turn and causes immense damage to enemy while sacrificing 2% HP
What were they thinking when designing that ssj3 broly 😭
facts
Here from DaTruth's video, you did amazing!
Dang, sub count doubled after that Truth drop. Well deserved, though. These are some high quality vids 👍🏼
The Blue Bros are definitely fatally flawed. But Vegito Blue himself is still as amazing as ever. Bro never lets me down. The only problem is overcoming the hurdle of getting the fusion off. But once you do, I’d still consider him one of the best units in the game.
greetings from datruth army n_n
fire video brother
So is no one going to talk about the fact that Kelfa is on this list but he only talked about her pre eza? She shouldn't have been on this list.
My thoughts exactly when I first saw this.
19:20 Love the video, just wanna say we got 2 blue Goku Vegetas before this guy. The resurrection F saga ones and the LR Tournament of power ones that released long long long ago
AGL VB would've been way better if he stacked defense on 12 ki in base and had guard for 5 turns instead of 4, that genuinely fixes his issues
Beautiful video, came here bc of truth. Instant like and follow keep up the work for the Dokkan Community
For some reason, it is VERY satisfying seeing Vegito and Gogeta on a list of bad characters (In games).
Same for me. I Generally just Hate The Concept of Fusion in General (the fact that its So damn Powerful to the Point its Quite literally a Deus-Ex Machina for the Plot and its also something they can casually do), so its probably not for the same reason as you do but yeah it is Very satisfiying.
Seeing SS4 FP Goku in in the top three hurt me... Dammit. He's still such a cool and badass character.
I was really surprised that the TUR Dokkanfest Phy GT Kid Goku and INT TUR GT Adult Vegeta weren't included on the list, imo they fell off incredibly quick. Maybe include them in a possible part 2 video?
Great video brudda! 🔥
Did I discover you from Truths reaction vid? Yes. BUT…idk how UA-cam didn’t send you my way sooner! Sub from me, and VERY much deserved. High quality content, and I can tell you play the game. I hear bits of Truth come out every now and then and it honestly kills me. Keep em coming !
Another problem with str super vegeta is that on global he released like two months before agl blue evo vegeta EZA’d and his leader was a full 170% to pure Saiyans so even one of his strongest traits got almost instantly replaced
i really wish that the blue goku + vegeta had their entrance animation removed, and the benefits from it be permanent. that simple change would buff them to no end
Str kefla was good until red zone, i beat the god events with kefla. She was also better than phy berus the whole time.
Edit str kefla helped me in sbr and esbr also😅
I haven’t played Dokkan in years, the last good unit I guess you could say that I had was the LR Final Form Cooler. Who is probably now completely overshadowed
Earned a new sub. Keep doing what you’re doing bro. Love the informative videos.
Good Stuff !!
As Much as I use and like the EZA Blue Vegito/Gogeta, I can agree they’re not aging well. As he said from turns 1-3, they’re practically useless. And when they do go blue, it take a while for them to stack which sucks because in most events you don’t have time to stack because of how strong the bosses/enemies are.
Not even close to the worst aging
(Not in order but still a more reasonable list)
1. Both janembas teq and LR
2. EZA LR Godki
3. PHY Goku Black
4. Teq LR Goku (angel) and vegeta (angel)/Gogeta
5. TEQ LR ssj2 Gohan (Bojack Movie)
6. TEQ nobody can beat me when Im (super #17)
7. STR ssj goku (w/ Z fighters)
8. LR Int Android #17 (& Universe 7) [PRE-ZA]
9. INT Goku & Piccolo (Deadzone movie)
10. STR EZA Broly
Extra: Practically any Teq Extreme unit prior to 2023 (ESPECIALLY 2022)
This video isn’t even worst aging these are just mainstream units that don’t hit hard because of power creep that raises to provide scaling content but these are still usable in different high end events such as past red zones, where as these units above are just down right egregious all over
Blue fusions are back bro, any event without AoEs they can really still perform
The SS2s were solid for the entire year after they released. Especially Vegeta, they were probably both top 10 TURs. Idk if that warrants worst aging units.
People were ready to die on their hills defending the AGL Blue duo, and it's so funny seeing them in ruins now. Guess it wasn't hating after all?
Truth sent me over
Who else saw Dan react to this
LR Namek Goku…what did they do to you…
Lr agl potara Bois is the most astounding falloff in dokkan history. 2 months and they were suddenly hard to run. I still love them and will throw them on a team but unfused they are almost exclusively a liability
This whole game needs a complete makeover in my opinion.
So many newer units are useless or get 1shotted.
No LR Goku frieza is criminal. They were unbelievably powerful and everyone was losing their shit, then they died so fast they got one of the quickest LR ezas of all time and then they were still shit
You're a chad for exposing 5th anniversary fusions. People tend to forget the weirdness of 2020
back then but now they are really good still to this day after eza
@@gamerf2p843they suck now :(
April 1st was three months ago
I'm glad Vegeta is #1 cause he was the one who immediately came into mind. Dude released before 99% of the game become irrelevant
for me the worst aging unit remains agl lr frieza after two months he baceme garbage
INT SSJ4 and AGL Blue Goku/Vegeta fell off for the same reason, they were designed to be exactly good enough to get you through the early phases of their fights in order to get you to their transformation, where they are massively overkill for their fights, so much so that INT FP SSJ4 and AGL Vegito Blue are still top characters honestly, but the way they were designed meant as soon as their base forms got powercrept at all, they were immediately out, because who cares if Vegito and FP SSJ4 are gods, their base forms get one shot by a light breeze in their general direction
When playing certain battles most of the characters [such as ultimate clash in my experience] nearly every unit gets one shotted. Even though the levels are in the 100s training them doesn't make a difference. In the end they are treated like dumpster fire.
Man it's so sad to see AGL VB fall off so hard just because of the base form, if they were better and AGL VB himself had a bit more damage I'd say AGL VB would be like Top 6/7 right now
I will not stand for this STR Kefla slander! I demand an apology immediately!!
Great video, but what about units who were just terrible as soon as they released like phy raditz. Bro was aged when he came out so does that not count?
I'm not caught up at all on dokkan due to not really playing much as of recent,, but I'm sure Lr namek goku will get a cracked EZA buff that would bring them back into the meta or something Xd
As I was watching this I got an ad for Dokkan that was playing the fusing Vegito at number 5 right before he showed up
LR Namek Goku is on here because he gets blasted by Red Zone but not FP Frieza??? The guy who gets buffs against Super Class enemies??? The guy who only stacks DEF on 18 Ki??? Make it make sense lmao, Nameku was at least a decent option for Cell Max when that event dropped
Also it’s straight up false Namek Goku “aged” in red zone when red zone was actually objectively easier for units like Namek Goku due to being a different type of event. It’s a long event. 2021 Pure Saiyan ESBR had two enemies hitting above 800K turn 1 while having less stats since no 200% leader. Look at Broly’s turn 1. A pathetic 575K SA. In fact this was so weak that Dokkan World was able to put Namek Goku slot 1 against Broly both his first and second appearances, get blasted both times before stacking defense, and still survive. In other words Namek Goku survived with the worst possible luck ever. Now if there wasn’t the worst possible luck ever, it would straight up be very consistent to survive with Namek Goku slot 1 first two appearances. If you did that against PS ESBR, you’re guaranteed dead. So how could a unit “age”when for this unit specifically, it got objectively easier? Sure red zone was harder for most unit due to the switch from short to long but for Namek Goku it got objectively easier.
Even STR Super Vegeta’s Eza aged out fast because of the cell restriction
The eventual blue bros EZA is gonna hit like crack (Not happening for years unfortunately)
I agree with everything on this list until Super Vegeta he wasn't that good on release, but he was a god in sbr and is still a god in sbr in my opinion, he has never fallen off
Disagree with #8 with Majin Vegeta and Angel Goku. Especially Majin Vegeta. No particular reason, i just remember having to use them and coming through for me more than a year after release.
legit you gotta babysit fusing blue bros till they, well, fuse and then your fine.they dont tank for shit till they fuse
Angel ssj3 Goku for sure but majin Vegeta counterpart aged a lot better because he was far better defensively and his guard was just better than dodge chance
They were not forgettable if you were there for the release, though they weren’t too hype
really wish they would take a break from releasing brand new units, or divide the dev team or whatever so they can focus on not only bringing in new eza's for older units that have been needing them but also super eza the units that got eza's with no additional defense. A lot of the collection is starting to become unusable almost entirely in new content.
STR Super Vegeta should've been better if he kept his guard all day and greatly raised DEF for 1 turn at least on his SA.
I still can’t believe they hid my boy behind the garbage blue duo. Vegito was so good but they made it so hard to get him and made the blue duo suck
Part 3 should be Top 10 most mediocre characters of all time