he reminds me of a young fred dignah but the more modern stuff still think he would love steam engines ect would guy its a engine and guys allways asking questions as well like fred did
The A-dome survived because of its location almost directly under blast, Its walls safe from any horizontal pressure while the shock from above knocked the floors to the ground of the building. There were many cement buildings in Hiroshima.
Yep, that helped too, but there were other buildings around and they didn't survive the blast from above. There were other buildings made from reinforced concrete way further away, which received the blast from the famous Mach stem and still survived, like the army clothing depot over 2km away. In some cases people inside survived as well, probably the most extreme case being that one person who went down to the basements of the Rest House just next to the Dome. The rest House itself survived too, receiving the blast mostly above and being made from the concrete as well.
@Ninja ZX-12R yup. I don't know the whole story, that person was most probably buried under the rubble and retrieved a bit later, but being able to crawl outside on your own after this isn't out of question. Actually being alive after this is a miracle, after all this building received the same kind of treatment as the Dome - floors being pushed down right onto one's head.
@Ninja ZX-12R There where lots of survivors, one called Tsutomu Yamaguchi after surviving that bomb returned home to Nagasaki and got nuked a second time and survived again. He died in January this year at the age of 104.
@@williamwilliams8145 Wow I've never heard that but its remarkable what a human can survive. When its your time to go nothing can stop and if it's not your time nothing can cause it.
I can imagine. I have been to some test sites and just knowing that's where it all started gives you a bit of an unsettled feeling. I think going to either city would be much more emotional.
I also visited both cities and both museums and I just hope the world learns about it. But a word of remorse and apology would help Japan emotionally I have never seen it from the US side. We Germans stand to our past learn about it but such acts are needed to process it right.
@@abelgerli the US approach is simple: they had to end the war, and Japan committed horrible atrocities in China. There was never justification for Nagasaki, but we have to consider that the Japanese support of the Emperor was a religion at that time. They refused unconditional surrender. Ironically, the industrious people of Nagasaki worked day and night at the Mitsubishi plant to produce enough bombs for the attack on Pearl Harbor.
@@abelgerli Why would the US apologize for ending a war Japan started? We can all be remorseful at the cost of life and the immense devastation of a weapon everyone hopes is never used again but it's pretty stupid to think an apology is in order. The Japanese empire at the time was right there with Hitler levels of evil look up the rape of nanjing and their treatment of POWs. A land invasion of Japan after what had already happened in Europe would have been utterly devastating to both sides far more then either of these bombs.
I was there last year with a friend. It was the most heavy while still beautifull thing I have ever experienced. In the museum it just felt wrong to even say a single word we just walked through it and let it all sink in.
I've been there too and I must admit it broke me. I found the stories of the children on their way to school getting burnt alive too much to bear. The display cases with melted milk bottles and roof slates were unbelievable and the shadow of the guy sitting on the steps of a Bank who was vaporised beggared belief. Also the story of the girl in hospital and the 10000 paper origami cranes was very upsetting. Even though it upsets me just as much now as when I went there many years ago I'm glad I went as it has furthered my understanding of war and especially atomic bombs and their impact.
I have friend in Japan. She told me they hate whatever the old Japanese do. Like war and killing.. And during preschool, they will shown kids a video about this nuclear bombing(animated) and the worst thing that happened from it so the new generation wont start war again. I really love Japanese tho. They're super polite.
@@Mikemike-gr6xt Have you seen some of the strict rules the schools have? Some require you to dye your hair black if it's naturally brown or ban female students from wearing warmer cloths when it's cold
I just came back from a trip in Nagasaki. Visited the A-bomb museum. I could not help but balled my eyes out reading those letters written by the citizens after watching their kids and wife/ husband got burnt alive/ died from radiation/ shock wave blast. It was an emotional experience.
@teledine it's like modern day capitalists trying to say that capitalism is good but totally not mentioning Hiroshima, Nagasaki, the US at war for 222 of its 239 year history, the illegal invations by capitalist nations into countries like Iraq and Afghanistan to steal their natural resources. Amazing forgetfulness.
@@magnetiktrax The bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were moral acts of self defense as was the US participation in WWII in general. The US has fought many wars simply because the rest of the world keeps starting them and they have no choice but to put a stop to it. Obviously Iraq and Afghanistan were questionable and bungled wars but there's zero comparison with the genocides of socialism.
I also just want to say that Guy Martin is awesome, I love this channel. I love how he treats these subjects with respect and compassion. And I will always support anything Guy does. 😊👍
If anyone hasn't read it, you should definitely read John Hersey's 1946 piece "Hiroshima" that he won the pulitzer prize for. It's an account of 6 survivors from different parts of the city that he interviewed. It's an amazing read. Just whack "Hiroshima new yorker" into Google and it should be the first thing to appear. It was the article mainly responsible for really bringing home the absolute horror of a nuclear blast and the devastating aftermath to the American public.
Seeing images of those slumping steel light poles, softened from the enormous heat, always send chills up my spine. They are silent witnesses of hell on earth.
Could have been prevented if the Japanese war criminals surrendered earlier. They were warned. Even after Hiroshima they still didn't want to surrender.
That was the version I heard growing up. Another version I read recently suggested that the A bomb was dropped without fore warning, and that the Japanese was going to surrender regardless of the A bomb. Multiple scientists wrote letter to the gov and advised against the use of A bomb too. I am not sure which is true.
@@freedeworld from what I've read, they only wanted to surrender on their own terms, which meant retaining control of territories like my country. Fuck that. That would have been like Wolfenstein but instead of the "nut sees" controlling America, it would be the Japanese controlling Asia. For some reason UA-cam blocks words like, "hollow coz," and, "nut sees." I typed another really long reply and it disappeared.
MC Ho I don’t think that’s true. Hard core factions of the IJA even were going to attack the emperor to prevent him from surrendering. Leaflets were dropped on the cities warning them. But no one could comprehend the power of the a bomb until it was used. More people were killed by firebombing Tokyo.
Guy is a little off here, Kamikaze pilots did not want to fly their plane into U.S ships, a minority did but the vast majority of pilots were forced into it or pushed into it some even felt like they had no choice but to do it as they would be dishonoring their family.
@@TrealochLynch it probably was a message to the Soviet Union, it was also payback for the stab in the back at Pearl Harbor. At the time the Japanese were involved in peace talks with us, even presented us with medals. Out of nowhere the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. So we sought retribution and we found it in the nuclear attacks. I think if anything we used them cause we had them and we wanted to see the actual devastation in real time on real people, as fucked up as that sounds. They provided us with the perfect target at the time, someone who would two face us at a time of great tension.
I have watched many hours on my god and you nailed it Guy seeing the building is the best part of the story they aimed for the bridge just to the side of it not a bad shot
Well you should be proud, it was not a decision that was taken lightly. Considering the mass suicides of Japanese civilians our soldiers witnessed all across the Pacific because of propaganda sold to them by the empire about US soldiers. Its not hard to see how much more innocent lives would have been lost in an invasion. Before this "woke" left wing madness swept over the culture like a plague most historians fully understood pulling that trigger was absolutely necessary. And take some time to look into the atrocities against Chinese citizens perpetuated by the Japanese doctors and scientists its on the same level Josef Mengele shit, but no one ever wants to talk about that shit. Finally you should absolutely be proud of the # of your forefathers that gave their freedom and their lives to ensure you and yours are free.
@Siward Beorn I may care enough to read what you have to say if you manage to form a coherent thought. Also, I regret to inform that I could not care less whether you agree with me or not, your ability or rather inability to express your opinions in a coherent thought suggests an emotional 12 yr old or triggered adult with a sub 90IQ. Either way, not even worth my time to present to you the facts and evidence of exactly how WW2 kicked off between US and Japan. Go ahead and stay in your fantasy land.
paulnjoo 2 seconds ago I've been there too and I must admit it broke me. I found the stories of the children on their way to school getting burnt alive too much to bear. The display cases with melted milk bottles and roof slates were unbelievable and the shadow of the guy sitting on the steps of a Bank who was vaporised beggared belief.
Another reason for dropping the bomb, to keep Russia from invading Japan. They kept fighting 3 weeks after the war was over trying to take as much land as possible.
For a long time i have believed that one of the big reasons for dropping little boy and fat man was because they wanted to show a 20 mile high, mushroom shaped middle finger to the russians
No it wasn't about stopping Russia from just invading Japan, it was about stopping Russia from being the world's number one superpower as Russia by this time had a massive military
E W Towards the end of WW2, Russia invaded and occupied four of the Kuril Islands north of Hokkaido island. They still hold them today. Japan and Russia have still not signed a peace treaty to end WW2. America did not know what Russia was planning.
@@rhallnapa America still has a base on Okinawa, I'm talking about mainland Japan. Russia had no proven or existing ability to conduct an amphibious invasion.
There is a sobering lesson that is taught at the museum there. It shows the unadulterated horror of war, it shows the fantastic will of the Japanese people to overcome hardship. Most importantly it teaches us the price of war and how it is always a gamble. One must be willing to sacrifice everything in the face of war in order to win. Thankfully the Emperor of Japan saw that the conflict would have only ever ended up with the destruction of his people and culture, and wisely chose to end the conflict. If the war had continued passed the bombings, millions more lives would have been lost. And more terrifyingly a concept, there might not be a Japan today. If the conflict continued Japan may very well have been known as the Pacific Territories of The United States (PTUS) today. It is terribly sad and jarring when you see the sights and listen to the speakers. After it all I learned, that despite the terrible price rendered unto the Japanese people. Hiroshima and Nagasaki saved millions of Japanese and American lives. Many of us owe a price that can never be repaid.
it's crazy right? People don't really change, circumstance does. If we time travelled to that era, we would have done exactly the same shit over again.
It was estimated that the u.s. alone would have lost 2.5 million troops if we would have invaded the Japanese islands. That's dead troops. There would have been another 5 million casualties. Half of that number injuries and the other half PTSD. It was discovered that the Japanese had their own nuclear program. It had to be done, yet I hope it never happens again. Vaughn
David Messer...…….mmm, whilst it is true that the Americans [and Allies] knew that the Japanese would fight to the bitter end and prolong the war indefinitely - this was not the only [and very possibly, not the main] reason for using the bomb on Japan. The USA together with Great Britain and Canada had started the 'Manhattan Project' in 1942 as they were deeply concerned that the Germans were developing a nuclear bomb. [German chemists Otto Hahn and Fritz Strassmann had discovered nuclear fission in 1938 - and Germany almost certainly had the world's leading scientists in this field at the time]. It was sheer serendipity that the Germans surrendered before they had the opportunity to use their nuclear device - but this left the USA [as well as Britain and Canada] with the finished article having spent unlimited financial resources and manpower on its development, but no potential 'target'. So the USA/Allies decided to drop one bomb on Japan - thinking this would force the Japanese to surrender. However and to their great surprise, there was absolutely no reaction from Emperor Hirohito. Even more worryingly, the Soviet Union declared war on Japan two days later. There is a very compelling argument therefore that the decision to drop a second nuclear bomb on Japan was to send a 'strong warning message' to the Russians that the USA & Britain had a nuclear capability and were not afraid to use it. Indeed, it could be argued that the act of the nuclear bombing of Japan was the first 'shots in the Cold War'. The irony was that the Russians were still months behind in the development of their own nuclear bomb.
@@thesoultwins72 Thank you for your reply. The Russians were at about the same stage in their development process as the Japanese. We had bombed the German facilities in 1944 in Norway. We did have to drop a second bomb. I agree with you in regards with the fact that it also was dropped as a show to the Russians. A little intimidation goes a long way. The sad thing is that it also convinced the Russians of their need of nuclear weapons. The reason that we have so many nuclear power plants is because we had a need for plutonium. Which is a waste byproduct of the nuclear process. I wish that we had chosen fission for our power plants. Fukushima and Chernobyl are prime examples of why we should not have fusion powered plants. I know that I am shooting with a scatter gun right now so I'm going to end with me thanking you for your insightful comments. Vaughn
Brings to mind Grave of the Fireflies which is more about the firebombing of Tokoyo (100,000 dead) where more people died than those at Hiroshima (69,000 - though more died later due to radiation injuries). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grave_of_the_Fireflies
When are you going to pearl harbor? Great video Guy. Like the General of the Japanese Navy ship said, " we have woken a sleeping giant". Are payback was midway but the bomb was the bomb. We know how the thought and type of japanese back then are NOT what Japanese are today. My bestest bud is Japanese, highest amount of respect for him. Guy, do more of these around the world for different historical relevance .
They dropped one on Hiroshima... not a word was heard from Japan... nothing... *not a word...* 3 days later, they dropped another on Nagasaki... still, not a word from Japan... Anyway another 3 days went by and _then_ *[* Russia moved *1.5 million men* and *3,500 Tanks* into Manchuria so Emperor Hirohito surrendered *]*
Correct, fact is the two bombs only persuaded the Japanese to have talks with MacArthur but they had zero intention of surrendering, their intention was to bleed the Americans dry during the invasion of Japan thereby forcing them to seek an end that wasn't disshonourable. MacArthur pointed out to the Japanese that the Russians, (who had just defeated a Japanese army in Manchuria and seized islands to the north of the country), were poised to invade the main northern island of Hokkaido and the Japanese simply couldn't defend it. He also pointed out that when the war ended the Russians unlike allied forces would not withdraw and subsequently the Japanese would forever lose 1/3 of their country, the refusal of Russia to relinquish control of liberated Eastern European countries was proof of that. It was this threat that persuaded them to surrender.
@@tonyjames5444 Excellent post...tired of American's claiming the win without acknowledging the Soviet's MASSIVE contribution. If not for the Russians, Europe and where I'm from Australia, would still be in the hands of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. I dare say there would have been a massive war fought in the USA in the 1950's as well. But that's just my opinion. Cheers.
I don't feel any sympathy. I come from a town in Scotland which was the recruiting hub for a regiment caught up in Japans invasion of Singapore. Some were murdered in hospital beds, those unlucky enough to survive were treated to the most inhumane treatment in POW camps. Many of those were worked to death, treated worse than slaves. Those that returned home were often never the same. I have strong memories of old men shuddering and shaking their way down the road 50 years after their experiences. Japan, to this day, still refuses to come to terms with their actions during the war. I'm afraid to say that when I see the cracked dome I don't see the horror of the atom bomb, I see a nation that reaped the whirlwind.
@@themessenger5868 Yeah agreed, says a lot about those fuckers, especially as that sort of brutal execution had ended a few hundred years ago in other countries and these guys don't give a shit. Its pathetic, if they are going to execute someone do it quickly not pissing around. I also don't give a shit if it was their culture, its flat out wrong.
Yes the pow camps were absolute horrors. But that is not an excuse for genocide. Most of the 140.000 people were innocent. It is a war crime and always will be. We proved to be no better than the japanese when those bombs were dropped. Unfortunately history is always told from the winning perspective.
Good grief; Dibnah was an original character, and authority on steam power. He didn't copy anyone. He wrote his own scripts. Not the same, on any level.
If you ever feel bad for Japan, remember that they were fighting for Nazis, and were continuing to fight even after Germany had given up, were given multiple opportunities to give up, and refused...
Pissy little island that defeated Russia and China. If there would have been better connections with the west and Japan then you would not have the CCP, North Korea or Soviet Russia. Given an opportunity to give up. Would you GIVE UP! No! Don't disrespect a nation for adopting and fighting for the same rights that you would fight for now. Brad, you need to look at things without your racist goggles on.
@@DirtyRobot maybe that's true, but Japan were directly communicated by USA official, and were even invaded by their own allies (Russia) because they refused to peacefully surrender..
One of the deciding factors was 107,000 Japanese soldiers and conscripts died in taking Okinawa. The Japanese soldiers died rather than surrender and we were afraid of having to fight every person in the Japanese islands to the last man and woman.
I`m happy with that,better than being bitter ..tbf I have more respect for Guy than any politician I can think of at the moment...obviously he wouldn`t want to join that club in a hurry Cheers Why
I love Japan, really love the culture and people, but at that time due to Bushido and the shame of surrender in Japanese culture and this meant people would rather die than surrender in Bushido. It was the right thing to do.
the reason the bomb was dropped was twofold. firstly, (no necessarily the most important) for every Japanese soldier that surrendered, 17 yes 17 soldiers fought to the death. Iwo Jima confirmed this with 6,800 deaths. the casualty rate could not be justified. secondly, they wanted to see if it would work and they had 2 designs which is partly why the second one was dropped, well that and japan had not surrendered
The reason for dropping the bombs was simple mathematics.. it would have cost many more lives trying to invade. It's that simple. Dropping the bombs saved many lives.. sad as it is.
At least they were gone instantly. I saw a memorial piece in the museum of (what I thought was an elderly woman) that had a great many tiny folded (origami) cranes. Myth has it in the Japanese culture that if you fold 1000 cranes you will be healed of whatever ails you. The person who folded all the cranes died of injuries sustained in Hiroshima. I later read more of the story a year or so later. I was corrected in my original understanding. It was not an elderly woman but a 7 year old girl. War can be very cruel.
My uncle fought ww2 he said they would 100 soldiers charging he they would mow them down then the would send 100 more go all night trying to run them out of ammo
His dates are wrong about the surrender speech. Hiroshima was on the 6th of August. Nagasaki was the 9th. The surrender speech was broadcast on the 15th which was SIX days after Nagasaki.
My Grandfather suffered at the hands of the Japanese in Burma. Maybe the Dome needs to stand as a reminder of the consequences of peoples actions...such a nice bloke is Guy..does everything with respect..
Guy is right about why the US dropped the bomb. But there was a second reason too: to show the soviets what the US was capable of. It was effectively the start of the Cold War.
I think its good, to understand why the nuclear bombs were dropped. More lives were saved because of them, it sounds paradoxical but its true. An invasion or Japan would have lasted years and millions would have died.
The U.S. wanted the war to end and they warned the Japanese of the atomic bomb. The Japanese refused to surrender because it was against their code of Bushido. The US had to drop another bomb onto Nagasaki before they surrendered. It ended the war then. Ask any prisoner-of-war from any Japanese prison camp what they think of bombing Japan with atomic weapons.
How the hell is it though - that the only country to use an atomic bomb in anger - and not just once but twice - is today trying to dictate which countries can and cannot have a nuclear arsenal? I hate double standards and hypocrites.
If I remember correctly, Hiroshima was NOT the first nuclear target but the 4th. The first three were clouded over, so they diverted to Hiroshima. Could be wrong, look it up.
I went to japan for two weeks in 2019 for the rugby World Cup. I must say it is the best country I’ve ever been too!
Been twice 2018 n 2019. Its brilliant!
I went for my 40th birthday and can easily say it's the best place I have ever visited. I would have happily never left.
Did you stop by Unit 731? Oh yeah.. they don’t like to mention that...
@@bibsythecottonelf7147 shut the fuck up
@@ac2244 ignoring japanese war crimes. hmmmm....
guy: atomic bomb, Hiroshima, etc, etc.
also guy: the TRAM! man, that's incredible
@MGTOW La’ Monk yeah, we all know the "American" way. ..we're all fed up to the back teeth with the American way.
Such a genuine and natural presenter with compassion dignity and informative delivery of history. Well done Guy
he reminds me of a young fred dignah but the more modern stuff still think he would love steam engines ect would guy its a engine and guys allways asking questions as well like fred did
@@karlkuttup exactly my thoughts too. Well said. Many call him the 200mp dibnah
The A-dome survived because of its location almost directly under blast, Its walls safe from any horizontal pressure while the shock from above knocked the floors to the ground of the building. There were many cement buildings in Hiroshima.
Yep, that helped too, but there were other buildings around and they didn't survive the blast from above. There were other buildings made from reinforced concrete way further away, which received the blast from the famous Mach stem and still survived, like the army clothing depot over 2km away. In some cases people inside survived as well, probably the most extreme case being that one person who went down to the basements of the Rest House just next to the Dome. The rest House itself survived too, receiving the blast mostly above and being made from the concrete as well.
@Ninja ZX-12R yup. I don't know the whole story, that person was most probably buried under the rubble and retrieved a bit later, but being able to crawl outside on your own after this isn't out of question.
Actually being alive after this is a miracle, after all this building received the same kind of treatment as the Dome - floors being pushed down right onto one's head.
@Ninja ZX-12R ..then a tram pulls up
@Ninja ZX-12R There where lots of survivors, one called Tsutomu Yamaguchi after surviving that bomb returned home to Nagasaki and got nuked a second time and survived again.
He died in January this year at the age of 104.
@@williamwilliams8145 Wow I've never heard that but its remarkable what a human can survive. When its your time to go nothing can stop and if it's not your time nothing can cause it.
I love how much respect Guy has for the history of Japan, and it's people.
for everyone and everything really
damn, guy has become jack of all trade, historian, vlogger, racer, cooker, businessman, paratrooper,
Only thing left for him is to become bald so that he can challenge Johny Sins! 😎
Guy Martin, what a top bloke I love this series and all the other ones you have done. We need more like this.
Baaaah.
Just so you know to all the people who watch social media to get a history lesson, they have these things called books. Check them out.
Having been to both cities, I can only sai he is right its a weird feeling being on the spot.. now both great cities with very friendly people.
I can imagine. I have been to some test sites and just knowing that's where it all started gives you a bit of an unsettled feeling. I think going to either city would be much more emotional.
I also visited both cities and both museums and I just hope the world learns about it.
But a word of remorse and apology would help Japan emotionally I have never seen it from the US side.
We Germans stand to our past learn about it but such acts are needed to process it right.
@@abelgerli the US approach is simple: they had to end the war, and Japan committed horrible atrocities in China.
There was never justification for Nagasaki, but we have to consider that the Japanese support of the Emperor was a religion at that time. They refused unconditional surrender. Ironically, the industrious people of Nagasaki worked day and night at the Mitsubishi plant to produce enough bombs for the attack on Pearl Harbor.
@@abelgerli Why would the US apologize for ending a war Japan started? We can all be remorseful at the cost of life and the immense devastation of a weapon everyone hopes is never used again but it's pretty stupid to think an apology is in order. The Japanese empire at the time was right there with Hitler levels of evil look up the rape of nanjing and their treatment of POWs.
A land invasion of Japan after what had already happened in Europe would have been utterly devastating to both sides far more then either of these bombs.
I was there last year with a friend. It was the most heavy while still beautifull thing I have ever experienced. In the museum it just felt wrong to even say a single word we just walked through it and let it all sink in.
Steve Luth the burnt up tricycle is what choked me up
I've been there too and I must admit it broke me.
I found the stories of the children on their way to school getting burnt alive too much to bear.
The display cases with melted milk bottles and roof slates were unbelievable and the shadow of the guy sitting on the steps of a Bank who was vaporised beggared belief.
Also the story of the girl in hospital and the 10000 paper origami cranes was very upsetting.
Even though it upsets me just as much now as when I went there many years ago I'm glad I went as it has furthered my understanding of war and especially atomic bombs and their impact.
I have friend in Japan. She told me they hate whatever the old Japanese do. Like war and killing.. And during preschool, they will shown kids a video about this nuclear bombing(animated) and the worst thing that happened from it so the new generation wont start war again. I really love Japanese tho. They're super polite.
The high school's sucks tho
lol they are also super low key racist and their justice system belongs in the middle ages.
@@retardo9633 most people from Europe and America's is racist tho👀
@@bell3287 why😆😆
@@Mikemike-gr6xt Have you seen some of the strict rules the schools have? Some require you to dye your hair black if it's naturally brown or ban female students from wearing warmer cloths when it's cold
I just came back from a trip in Nagasaki. Visited the A-bomb museum. I could not help but balled my eyes out reading those letters written by the citizens after watching their kids and wife/ husband got burnt alive/ died from radiation/ shock wave blast. It was an emotional experience.
And so it should be for any decent human being.
I would recommend watching Grave of the fireflies
@teledine it's like modern day capitalists trying to say that capitalism is good but totally not mentioning Hiroshima, Nagasaki, the US at war for 222 of its 239 year history, the illegal invations by capitalist nations into countries like Iraq and Afghanistan to steal their natural resources.
Amazing forgetfulness.
Sotisesnygg watched it when I was 6. Not your typical cartoon for kids.
@@magnetiktrax The bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were moral acts of self defense as was the US participation in WWII in general. The US has fought many wars simply because the rest of the world keeps starting them and they have no choice but to put a stop to it. Obviously Iraq and Afghanistan were questionable and bungled wars but there's zero comparison with the genocides of socialism.
Excellent vid as usual guy love your way of telling it and you make very enjoyable and educational vids my friend keep them coming
I also just want to say that Guy Martin is awesome, I love this channel. I love how he treats these subjects with respect and compassion. And I will always support anything Guy does. 😊👍
Guy has such respect for world cultures a very Honorable man indeed
..and he's very impressed by trams
I Loved Hiroshima and japan best place on the planet and decades ahead of the world in term of society
Good to watch good one guy 👍
If anyone hasn't read it, you should definitely read John Hersey's 1946 piece "Hiroshima" that he won the pulitzer prize for. It's an account of 6 survivors from different parts of the city that he interviewed. It's an amazing read.
Just whack "Hiroshima new yorker" into Google and it should be the first thing to appear. It was the article mainly responsible for really bringing home the absolute horror of a nuclear blast and the devastating aftermath to the American public.
Seeing images of those slumping steel light poles, softened from the enormous heat, always send chills up my spine. They are silent witnesses of hell on earth.
That 'hell on earth' saved many lives. The ultimate example of sacrifice for the greater good.
I love these little video’s with guy presenting stuff! Keep them coming!
love any show with guy in it
Very fair and balanced. The Japanese treated POWs apallinglly and are not blameless. The Allies saw no other option. #neveragain
A racer gives a better insight than most historians.
He is not any racer, he is Guy Marin the legendest amongst legengs.
you are awesome and genuine
Could have been prevented if the Japanese war criminals surrendered earlier. They were warned. Even after Hiroshima they still didn't want to surrender.
That was the version I heard growing up. Another version I read recently suggested that the A bomb was dropped without fore warning, and that the Japanese was going to surrender regardless of the A bomb. Multiple scientists wrote letter to the gov and advised against the use of A bomb too. I am not sure which is true.
@@freedeworld from what I've read, they only wanted to surrender on their own terms, which meant retaining control of territories like my country. Fuck that. That would have been like Wolfenstein but instead of the "nut sees" controlling America, it would be the Japanese controlling Asia. For some reason UA-cam blocks words like, "hollow coz," and, "nut sees." I typed another really long reply and it disappeared.
That is pure propaganda lies.You wouldn't be the same if you heard the truth about all of the wars. $$$$$$$
@@freedeworld yes and the Japanese were going to surrender anyways when they heard about the soviet union invading from the north
MC Ho I don’t think that’s true. Hard core factions of the IJA even were going to attack the emperor to prevent him from surrendering. Leaflets were dropped on the cities warning them. But no one could comprehend the power of the a bomb until it was used. More people were killed by firebombing Tokyo.
I am both sad and proud at the same time. Amazing
That was an amazing short story. Well done Japan.
Guy is a little off here, Kamikaze pilots did not want to fly their plane into U.S ships, a minority did but the vast majority of pilots were forced into it or pushed into it some even felt like they had no choice but to do it as they would be dishonoring their family.
My Japanese wife had heard this from old relatives, most pilots just returned and said "we couldn't find any ships"
@@huch1966 thats bloody smart
Also the Japanese had reached out to the Allies to find a way to surrender. The dropping of the atomic bomb was to send a message to Russia.
@@TrealochLynch it probably was a message to the Soviet Union, it was also payback for the stab in the back at Pearl Harbor. At the time the Japanese were involved in peace talks with us, even presented us with medals. Out of nowhere the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. So we sought retribution and we found it in the nuclear attacks. I think if anything we used them cause we had them and we wanted to see the actual devastation in real time on real people, as fucked up as that sounds. They provided us with the perfect target at the time, someone who would two face us at a time of great tension.
I have watched many hours on my god and you nailed it Guy seeing the building is the best part of the story they aimed for the bridge just to the side of it not a bad shot
Love your vids guy
They started it and we finished it. Nothing I’m proud of.
Well you should be proud, it was not a decision that was taken lightly.
Considering the mass suicides of Japanese civilians our soldiers witnessed all across the Pacific because of propaganda sold to them by the empire about US soldiers. Its not hard to see how much more innocent lives would have been lost in an invasion.
Before this "woke" left wing madness swept over the culture like a plague most historians fully understood pulling that trigger was absolutely necessary.
And take some time to look into the atrocities against Chinese citizens perpetuated by the Japanese doctors and scientists its on the same level Josef Mengele shit, but no one ever wants to talk about that shit.
Finally you should absolutely be proud of the # of your forefathers that gave their freedom and their lives to ensure you and yours are free.
@Siward Beorn I may care enough to read what you have to say if you manage to form a coherent thought.
Also, I regret to inform that I could not care less whether you agree with me or not, your ability or rather inability to express your opinions in a coherent thought suggests an emotional 12 yr old or triggered adult with a sub 90IQ.
Either way, not even worth my time to present to you the facts and evidence of exactly how WW2 kicked off between US and Japan. Go ahead and stay in your fantasy land.
I like Guy’s videos. I’d like ‘em more if they had subtitles.
The Japanese did learn from their previous aggression. They are mostly very polite and friendly now. It is a wonderful place to visit.
I saw this guy Guy in clockwork orange...he looks remarkably young.
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I've been there too and I must admit it broke me.
I found the stories of the children on their way to school getting burnt alive too much to bear.
The display cases with melted milk bottles and roof slates were unbelievable and the shadow of the guy sitting on the steps of a Bank who was vaporised beggared belief.
Another reason for dropping the bomb, to keep Russia from invading Japan. They kept fighting 3 weeks after the war was over trying to take as much land as possible.
For a long time i have believed that one of the big reasons for dropping little boy and fat man was because they wanted to show a 20 mile high, mushroom shaped middle finger to the russians
No it wasn't about stopping Russia from just invading Japan, it was about stopping Russia from being the world's number one superpower as Russia by this time had a massive military
Russia never would have invaded Japan and had no plans to. What is your source?
E W Towards the end of WW2, Russia invaded and occupied four of the Kuril Islands north of Hokkaido island. They still hold them today. Japan and Russia have still not signed a peace treaty to end WW2. America did not know what Russia was planning.
@@rhallnapa America still has a base on Okinawa, I'm talking about mainland Japan. Russia had no proven or existing ability to conduct an amphibious invasion.
There is a sobering lesson that is taught at the museum there. It shows the unadulterated horror of war, it shows the fantastic will of the Japanese people to overcome hardship. Most importantly it teaches us the price of war and how it is always a gamble. One must be willing to sacrifice everything in the face of war in order to win. Thankfully the Emperor of Japan saw that the conflict would have only ever ended up with the destruction of his people and culture, and wisely chose to end the conflict. If the war had continued passed the bombings, millions more lives would have been lost. And more terrifyingly a concept, there might not be a Japan today. If the conflict continued Japan may very well have been known as the Pacific Territories of The United States (PTUS) today. It is terribly sad and jarring when you see the sights and listen to the speakers. After it all I learned, that despite the terrible price rendered unto the Japanese people. Hiroshima and Nagasaki saved millions of Japanese and American lives. Many of us owe a price that can never be repaid.
anyone else hearing about the trams running only 3 days after for the first time?
As always Guy, you do us Grimbarians proud matey. Great stuff
More in 5 minutes from our Guy than 14 years of education
Really? If there's even a tiny bit of truth in what you said then I'm very sorry for you.
You can’t learn without being spoon-fed by video content. Sounds like a problem with you rather than your education
Come on Guy, I want to buy you a pint and have a good chat with you. You're such a great human and why you're not on TV more ??
Respect to all japanese people from Georgia
Best episode
only a matter of time till we repeat the same mistakes.
it's crazy right? People don't really change, circumstance does. If we time travelled to that era, we would have done exactly the same shit over again.
This wasn’t a mistake
The MAD theory doesn’t work with Trump. For him it’s the madman theory.
not inevitable at all. It is always possible to learn from your mistakes.
It was estimated that the u.s. alone would have lost 2.5 million troops if we would have invaded the Japanese islands. That's dead troops. There would have been another 5 million casualties. Half of that number injuries and the other half PTSD. It was discovered that the Japanese had their own nuclear program. It had to be done, yet I hope it never happens again. Vaughn
David Messer...…….mmm, whilst it is true that the Americans [and Allies] knew that the Japanese would fight to the bitter end and prolong the war indefinitely - this was not the only [and very possibly, not the main] reason for using the bomb on Japan. The USA together with Great Britain and Canada had started the 'Manhattan Project' in 1942 as they were deeply concerned that the Germans were developing a nuclear bomb. [German chemists Otto Hahn and Fritz Strassmann had discovered nuclear fission in 1938 - and Germany almost certainly had the world's leading scientists in this field at the time].
It was sheer serendipity that the Germans surrendered before they had the opportunity to use their nuclear device - but this left the USA [as well as Britain and Canada] with the finished article having spent unlimited financial resources and manpower on its development, but no potential 'target'. So the USA/Allies decided to drop one bomb on Japan - thinking this would force the Japanese to surrender. However and to their great surprise, there was absolutely no reaction from Emperor Hirohito. Even more worryingly, the Soviet Union declared war on Japan two days later.
There is a very compelling argument therefore that the decision to drop a second nuclear bomb on Japan was to send a 'strong warning message' to the Russians that the USA & Britain had a nuclear capability and were not afraid to use it. Indeed, it could be argued that the act of the nuclear bombing of Japan was the first 'shots in the Cold War'. The irony was that the Russians were still months behind in the development of their own nuclear bomb.
@@thesoultwins72 Thank you for your reply. The Russians were at about the same stage in their development process as the Japanese. We had bombed the German facilities in 1944 in Norway. We did have to drop a second bomb. I agree with you in regards with the fact that it also was dropped as a show to the Russians. A little intimidation goes a long way. The sad thing is that it also convinced the Russians of their need of nuclear weapons. The reason that we have so many nuclear power plants is because we had a need for plutonium. Which is a waste byproduct of the nuclear process. I wish that we had chosen fission for our power plants. Fukushima and Chernobyl are prime examples of why we should not have fusion powered plants. I know that I am shooting with a scatter gun right now so I'm going to end with me thanking you for your insightful comments. Vaughn
Brings to mind Grave of the Fireflies which is more about the firebombing of Tokoyo (100,000 dead) where more people died than those at Hiroshima (69,000 - though more died later due to radiation injuries).
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grave_of_the_Fireflies
Grave of the Fireflies is set in Kobe, around 9,000 deaths in the incendiary bombing.
When are you going to pearl harbor? Great video Guy. Like the General of the Japanese Navy ship said, " we have woken a sleeping giant". Are payback was midway but the bomb was the bomb. We know how the thought and type of japanese back then are NOT what Japanese are today. My bestest bud is Japanese, highest amount of respect for him. Guy, do more of these around the world for different historical relevance .
They dropped one on Hiroshima... not a word was heard from Japan...
nothing...
*not a word...*
3 days later, they dropped another on Nagasaki...
still, not a word from Japan...
Anyway another 3 days went by and _then_ *[* Russia moved *1.5 million men* and *3,500 Tanks* into Manchuria so Emperor Hirohito surrendered *]*
Thankyou. The Soviet's are almost written out of the war they won.
Correct, fact is the two bombs only persuaded the Japanese to have talks with MacArthur but they had zero intention of surrendering, their intention was to bleed the Americans dry during the invasion of Japan thereby forcing them to seek an end that wasn't disshonourable.
MacArthur pointed out to the Japanese that the Russians, (who had just defeated a Japanese army in Manchuria and seized islands to the north of the country), were poised to invade the main northern island of Hokkaido and the Japanese simply couldn't defend it. He also pointed out that when the war ended the Russians unlike allied forces would not withdraw and subsequently the Japanese would forever lose 1/3 of their country, the refusal of Russia to relinquish control of liberated Eastern European countries was proof of that.
It was this threat that persuaded them to surrender.
@@tonyjames5444 Excellent post...tired of American's claiming the win without acknowledging the Soviet's MASSIVE contribution. If not for the Russians, Europe and where I'm from Australia, would still be in the hands of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. I dare say there would have been a massive war fought in the USA in the 1950's as well. But that's just my opinion. Cheers.
Posted similar comment on a Mark Felton video.. boyyyyy did I catch some serious heat 😂
(Edit: Unintentional nuclear bomb pun)
@@unbearifiedbear1885 I'm not surprised, speaking truth these days, as Orwell would say, is becoming a ""revolutionary act".
There is some amazing survival stories.
I don't feel any sympathy. I come from a town in Scotland which was the recruiting hub for a regiment caught up in Japans invasion of Singapore.
Some were murdered in hospital beds, those unlucky enough to survive were treated to the most inhumane treatment in POW camps. Many of those were worked to death, treated worse than slaves.
Those that returned home were often never the same. I have strong memories of old men shuddering and shaking their way down the road 50 years after their experiences. Japan, to this day, still refuses to come to terms with their actions during the war.
I'm afraid to say that when I see the cracked dome I don't see the horror of the atom bomb, I see a nation that reaped the whirlwind.
@@themessenger5868 Yeah agreed, says a lot about those fuckers, especially as that sort of brutal execution had ended a few hundred years ago in other countries and these guys don't give a shit. Its pathetic, if they are going to execute someone do it quickly not pissing around. I also don't give a shit if it was their culture, its flat out wrong.
Hm, it's almost as if war turns people into monsters and should be avoided at all costs? Imagine that.
@@themessenger5868 Tell that to the Jews.
Yes the pow camps were absolute horrors. But that is not an excuse for genocide. Most of the 140.000 people were innocent. It is a war crime and always will be. We proved to be no better than the japanese when those bombs were dropped. Unfortunately history is always told from the winning perspective.
War is just bad. We all lose.
Just think about Pearl Harbor before you start feeling sympathetic for the Japanese. SEMPER FI
My guy guy
Guy Martin: 21st century Fred Dibnah
Good grief; Dibnah was an original character, and authority on steam power. He didn't copy anyone. He wrote his own scripts. Not the same, on any level.
If you ever feel bad for Japan, remember that they were fighting for Nazis, and were continuing to fight even after Germany had given up, were given multiple opportunities to give up, and refused...
Nobody feels sorry for them. Its just impressive for a country with no natural assets.
Pissy little island that defeated Russia and China. If there would have been better connections with the west and Japan then you would not have the CCP, North Korea or Soviet Russia.
Given an opportunity to give up. Would you GIVE UP! No!
Don't disrespect a nation for adopting and fighting for the same rights that you would fight for now. Brad, you need to look at things without your racist goggles on.
@@DirtyRobot maybe that's true, but Japan were directly communicated by USA official, and were even invaded by their own allies (Russia) because they refused to peacefully surrender..
@@snowcow1173 And Stupid is still stupid.
@@KentRoads As stated before. WOULD YOU SURRENDER?
One of the deciding factors was 107,000 Japanese soldiers and conscripts died in taking Okinawa. The Japanese soldiers died rather than surrender and we were afraid of having to fight every person in the Japanese islands to the last man and woman.
And look at them now!!!
GUY MARTIN FOR PRIME MINISTER!
Why?
Why not
`cos you can trust him...and he has honour and fair play
guzzibob you naive little boy. You’re sweet.
I`m happy with that,better than being bitter ..tbf I have more respect for Guy than any politician I can think of at the moment...obviously he wouldn`t want to join that club in a hurry
Cheers Why
Thanks Guy ! I guess it says a lot about "fallout" then...
Maybe stop and visit the USS Nevada on the way home for perspective.
Very sad !. The insanity of war. All war. Man-kind needs to evolve higher . lets do it !
Now go to Pearl Harbor....if you haven't already....putting the horse before the kart seems "improper".
Guy Proper!
I love Japan, really love the culture and people, but at that time due to Bushido and the shame of surrender in Japanese culture and this meant people would rather die than surrender in Bushido. It was the right thing to do.
i'm from Australia...where have i seen this dude before?
Robroscob A meme about football I would guess 😀
I heard the emperor never said "surrender" in his speach
the reason the bomb was dropped was twofold. firstly, (no necessarily the most important) for every Japanese soldier that surrendered, 17 yes 17 soldiers fought to the death. Iwo Jima confirmed this with 6,800 deaths. the casualty rate could not be justified. secondly, they wanted to see if it would work and they had 2 designs which is partly why the second one was dropped, well that and japan had not surrendered
The reason for dropping the bombs was simple mathematics.. it would have cost many more lives trying to invade. It's that simple. Dropping the bombs saved many lives.. sad as it is.
WELL, YOU GOTTA KILL AN ANIMAL TO EAT SOME DELICIOUS MEAT. :)
*American lives
@@maxweisel9027 *world lives
@@ant2312 Harry Truman dropped the bombs to save American lives specifically but it probably still was world lives saved.
Tha is a nation i'n it?
I love the dude
Vaporised,the marks on the ground,SHOCKING
At least they were gone instantly.
I saw a memorial piece in the museum of (what I thought was an elderly woman) that had a great many tiny folded (origami) cranes. Myth has it in the Japanese culture that if you fold 1000 cranes you will be healed of whatever ails you. The person who folded all the cranes died of injuries sustained in Hiroshima.
I later read more of the story a year or so later. I was corrected in my original understanding. It was not an elderly woman but a 7 year old girl.
War can be very cruel.
GUY TRAINS TO BE A CITY
Don't shout
Checkout Fukushima wow
Didn't the firebombing of Tokyo earlier that year (I believe it was in March) take more lives than Hiroshima, Nagasaki or even Dresden?
Jesus Dale.. That doesn't suit the narrative at all! Keeps your facts to yourself dude...
Yep. 250,000 people I believe.
My uncle fought ww2 he said they would 100 soldiers charging he they would mow them down then the would send 100 more go all night trying to run them out of ammo
Not unlike the brilliant military tactics employed in the trench warfare of WW1 then.
the nukes saved lives in the long run
great job guy the thinking mans Fred you know who i mean did ya like that ?
That picture at 2:33. Is that a soldier about to be executed?
Yes Australian commando Leonard Siffleet
@@leeneale8776 :(
Remember history is written by the winner.
So when you getting Oasis back together mate?
Guy tells it how it is how come he not got a obe in recognition yet
Actually that's incorrect.
The Japanese surrendered in the same hour the bomb was dropped on Nagasaki
His dates are wrong about the surrender speech. Hiroshima was on the 6th of August. Nagasaki was the 9th. The surrender speech was broadcast on the 15th which was SIX days after Nagasaki.
hi
Never forget Nanking!
My Grandfather suffered at the hands of the Japanese in Burma. Maybe the Dome needs to stand as a reminder of the consequences of peoples actions...such a nice bloke is Guy..does everything with respect..
I hear my ancestry migrated to America right before the japanese attacked pearl harbor! If it weren't for their decision I would've never been born!
Go to Nanking, the rail road Japan built in SE Asia, Manila
All places where Japan commented mass murders
Guy is right about why the US dropped the bomb. But there was a second reason too: to show the soviets what the US was capable of. It was effectively the start of the Cold War.
America forcing a country to learn the word surrender when it's not even in their vocabulary.
Kevin Cringe when a mosquito bites did you just let it?
NO you smash that fucker with a giant hand so it never does again
If you want some balance look up baton death march
They did NOT start preparing more atomic bombs after Nagasaki. The project was depleted. It was a gamble.
Scouse cheekiness or not, get it right.
I think its good, to understand why the nuclear bombs were dropped. More lives were saved because of them, it sounds paradoxical but its true. An invasion or Japan would have lasted years and millions would have died.
Omg I can't believe that people have unliked this video!
Why? ..maybe they are more concerned with the victims than the trams.
This is why Iran should never be allowed nuclear weapons
Because they can use them to finish World War 2?
The U.S. wanted the war to end and they warned the Japanese of the atomic bomb. The Japanese refused to surrender because it was against their code of Bushido. The US had to drop another bomb onto Nagasaki before they surrendered. It ended the war then. Ask any prisoner-of-war from any Japanese prison camp what they think of bombing Japan with atomic weapons.
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How the hell is it though - that the only country to use an atomic bomb in anger - and not just once but twice - is today trying to dictate which countries can and cannot have a nuclear arsenal? I hate double standards and hypocrites.
Nothing to do with double standards, they have a right to say if some stupid middle eastern country can have them
Support the IRA do you
Moral of the story, be careful of who you anger!
da ein a nation, ein it?
They didn’t need to drop the a bomb they already had them on their knees with the fire bombing etc etc they just needed an excuse to test their bomb.
Yeah right ok
they already tested it before mate
ArtilleryFire indeed, but not on humans.
@@artilleryfire6576 to test on people, it's a fact
and the excuse was what? to not waste their soldier's lives? japan may have been on its knees but there was literally was no sign of them surrendering
so guy is a nuking genocide and firebombing millions of innocent apologist or they made him say that?
If I remember correctly, Hiroshima was NOT the first nuclear target but the 4th. The first three were clouded over, so they diverted to Hiroshima. Could be wrong, look it up.
Great video by Top Man Guy. However the atomic bomb was dropped at 08.15 Hours and not 09.45 Hours.
I think he said 1945
Old Waitekauri Thank you my friend. Sounded like 09.45, my mistake 👍
Made in Japan - Nuke proof.