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Hey mate. This game had a super cool but subtitle feature that no one ever talks about. I’m one of the few people on earth who tried to finish this game in split screen with a friend and i noticed that in one of the missions some of the cops weren’t armed and would try and run away and hide during all the shooting. I got my friend to come over and look at a cop hiding behind a bin, but on his screen it was just a member of the public. Either we had a mad bug or the developer had made my characters delusions real. Still not sure either way, but it’s a fantastic idea
@@halihandroit's a mechanic in game for Lynch as he becomes more unstable without meds, it happens the whole way through. So many amazing ideas in this game and the sequel.
Michael and Trevor really have a lot of similarities to Kane and Lynch that go way beyond the simple archetypal roles that they both fill, especially with Kane himself and Lynch's perception and constant criticism of Kane. Kane is regretful and family oriented- just like Michael. Kane has a tendency towards dishonesty and a history of betraying his criminal sidekicks- just like Michael. And Lynch is constantly yelling at Kane over his disloyalty and dishonesty- just like Trevor does to Michael. The big difference though is that with Kane and Lynch, everything actually makes sense. With GTA 5, why does Trevor just start tagging around with his buddy who betrayed him like nothing happened, and even when he finds out for sure that he got his other comrade (Brad) killed, he just acts very passive aggressively towards Michael, not once actually making any serious threats of hurting him like the violent psychopath we're supposed to believe he is. The roles of Kane and Lynch are very much reversed- Kane is the hardened, experienced mercenary, and Lynch is the soft newbie who would probably get his teeth kicked in by Kane if he actually tried anything towards him, which explains why he never does. Kane isn't the least bit intimidated by Lynch, and would definitely have killed him after the bank massacre if he didn't need him alive. Their relationship works because, even though they're two violent criminals who probably want each other dead, they have no choice but to work together because they're the only people they can count on. The same can't be said for Trevor and Michael- it doesn't make sense and makes Trevor come across as a whiny, clingy child.
Im so fucking glad some one mentioned this. Co-Op this game was great.. Seeing innocents and civiliians as LEOS explained why he was shooting so much shit in single player hahaha Oh shit and rappelling into the Skycraper and the HEAT mission felt great at the time. Come to think of it, the locations this game offered was great. Each setting was depicted well, and those NPS numbers!
@@reecegoodinson761 same but opposite when I play this at my dads place with my little brother I was i think 7 at the time and he was 5 or 6 now im 19 and he is 18.
Just as a correction, the game never takes place in Mexico. They fly to Havana, Cuba to assist some faction in a civil war. And according to the wiki they go from Cuba to a Jungle in Venezuela.
@@VergilHiltsLT That sounds fucked obviously they ain't the best source of info since anyone can basically edit it, but are you pulling that number out of your ass?
I first played it when it came out on PC and hated how shitty it performed on my rather decent system. I've picked it up again on steam cheap, mainly cause I bought Dog Days. I've given Dead Men another chance and it's nothing too special but I'm having fun with it.
All the time, maybe more likely IOI is independent and the Hitman's have done well. Or they could get the rights for HEAT and make it into a game, damn that would be great!
the newer rendering methods are what have improved, like TX anti-aliasing which actually deletes aliasing instead of FSAA which just blurs the edges and looks like the screen has vaseline on it, and john carmack's work in megatextures really makes the difference between last gen and current gen games night and day
@@AleK0451 Eh... MoH Airborne and The Darkness still look fine. UE3 has aged like dogshit for sure, but most 7th gen games suffer more from poor colour grading and art direction than anything else. Hell, they were still using the Hitman 1 engine up until K&L2. Prefer supersampling to TXAA and megatexture doesn't impress me so much as object density in something like Hitman or Witcher 3.
It's crazy how "modern" it still looks. Not even purely on graphical fidelity. Just jumping on the video and watching some bits it can easily pass as predecessor to GTA 5 and it came out before even 4 was released lol. Holds up well with all those "new" mitiplayer style of games (aka battle royales), specifically the TPS ones as well. It's hilarious!
Freedom Fighters had the same exact reload mechanic. I/O has learned a lot since Kane & Lynch. Imagine a Kane & Lynch 3 with the engine and shooting mechanics from the recent Hitman games. I'd be all over that.
As much as reboots have become overdone in the gaming industry, I think it'd be the best option for the Kayne and Lynch franchise. With the right talent, the story could be so much better, and with the shooting from the recent Hitman games, it could be pretty solid.
@@oliver24x lol they have it and also square enix they don't wanna get this game from IO Interactive and Square Enix wants to sell the company (IO Interactive that includes also kane and lynch) to another publisher if they want to buy it but IO Interactive wants to be a independent for future purposes only and the recently game was Hitman 2 was published by Warner Bros Interactive p.s. you got wrong information buddy hahahahaha
Finding out people considered this one of the worst games blew my mind. I remember playing this game co-op with my brother and we loved it. Even to this day we go back to it every once and a while.
Despite all its numerous flaws, this will always be one of my favourite games. Like it or not, it did what it aimed to do perfectly, and that was adapting Of Mice And Men into a video game. It's not very big, it's not very detailed, but if you allow yourself to be immersed in the story, to identify with the characters, it's one of the most unique and memorable experiences you'll ever have. For the first time in a long time, I truly cared about the fates of the protagonists. I didn't just go through the motions in order to complete a series of tasks. I felt like I was desperately trying to uncock an utterly messed up situation, and for that, I believe this game deserves my eternal praise. People praise hitman, but despite all its technical wonders, I never was able to give a shit(I know it was kind of the point, but still) about any of the story or the characters. K&L gave me the kind of tingles I haven't felt from this developer since I first played Freedom Fighters. I understand everyone who hates this game, because the grass pop-in kind of kills the mood off the bat, but if I ever get drunk enough that I stop caring about bullshite like that, I always load in K&L 1-2 and have an absolute goddamned blast. "You-should-have-let-me-talk-to-them!" Never has a scene in a video game made me feel this much before, or after.
I was always a big fan of these games. The voice acting and little details in a 11 year old game were always nice. Many nights spent in the Kane and Lynch forums too. The finale was in Cuba, too
Agreed. If there was some semblance to a backstory to flesh out the title characters, then the story would've been more engaging. I mean, Kane was an ex-soldier, right? So maybe there was some kind of operation that gone south and he got discharged, so he turns to working for a crime organization for money. And Lynch could have an extreme case of PTSD, which would justify his psychotic episodes. Dunno, I'm just spitballing ideas.
I thought the story was okay. Though you might be onto something on giving it some improvement. I have a soft spot for both entires, and would like to see some kind of follow-up with these ideas.
Kane didn't steal money from The Seven. In fact it was never revealed in the game what he had stolen. It was something important obviously, but it was kept as a mystery throughout. I had hoped that the sequel would've explained it. But for some reason the devs just forgot about it and went with a completely different story in Shanghai of all places.
That review that dropped and shat it into oblivion making everyone well aware of how awful it is, as much as the cult following it has can disagree or find guilty pleasure in it
Both Kane & Lynch games are some of my personal favourite action games. Yeah, sure they have their problems, but that never stopped me from enjoying them a lot. And the soundtrack is kickass especially the first one's.
The game is very broken but the art is good. It's very Michael Mannish, which should be enough to keep some people interested. Same with second one except it had a HK crime movie vibe instead.
I personally like this game so much. AI teammate can be confused sometimes, but it's manageable even on hardest difficulty. It has some flaws, but what hook me is characters and storytelling which reminds me of Heat. Psycho protagonist like Lynch might not be well executed more than game script, but it's something we rarely see in video game. I enjoy experience for both Kane & Lynch. For story, I prefer first one, but second one for atmosphere. I wish there's more games like this.
That game was really conflicting. It was on the fine line between unplayable and mediocre but some unknown force compelled me to push through to the end.
Demetrius Ervin Kane and lynch both stylistically, and game wise is way more generic than max Payne 3. Payne 2-3 has a huge overhaul in the story, and graphics. Kane and lynch just takes every stiff, generic features of every post 90s shooters. The fact that this game came out 6 years after Max Payne 1, and is only 5 years older than Max Payne 3 shows how water down IO studios made everything to fit into a commercial product.
Max Payne 3's gameplay wasn't better than 1&2's imo. It was even more linear, they shoehorned in a cover mechanic, no dream sequences, and can't use thrown weapons in single-player.
Something special could've really came out of Kane and Lynch. The had a good blueprint with the first game that could've led into fantastic sequel but took a risk that went very sour. R.I.P to what could've been
Yeah, you can at least say the seccond Kane and lynch tried something different with the setting and the gross found footage camera like effects... It just overdid its style to a point where it jeopardized the entire game. Plus, even if you haven't played the game, that ending is one of the worst endings in any game, ever....
WTF. This was one of the coolest co-op shooters ever created. Absolutely flawless story and characters, memorable enviroments and plot twists, multiple endings... I loved this game a lot :-)
I really loved this game mostly because I played it with my dad and it was back in the day when he and me would have the time to just sit and play games.
K&L 1 and 2 are a guilty pleasure of mine. I still believe Kane & Lynch 2 had a stellar unique art style and phenomenal multiplayer mode in Fragile Alliance and I'll die on that hill.
Agreed I wasn't a fan of the 3rd game had excellent combat but the story was really shitty completely missed the noir feel of the first 2. In 3 u just felt like a drunk holiday rep with a gun
@@3beyondthesun3 yeah but with trevor it made sense somewhat cause he was a high functioning psychopath. Here, there is literally no reason why lunch should on this team due to how unhinged he is. Like when you're having hallucinations, it's probably not the best idea to be on a heist.
I thought I was the only one that thought about this. I love the atmosphere, story and music of the first Kane and Lynch game, but the gunplay and movement are pretty clunky. Imagine a Kane and lynch game with the gameplay of max payne 3. That would be my all time fav game
I really enjoyed the first K&L game too, I never got around to playing the second though. For all K&L flaws, I had a lot of fun playing it. It felt like Army of Two if Ao2 was written by Martin Scorsese instead of Quentin Tarantino.
Don't care, I love Kane & Lynch 2. That game was gritty, visceral, and I thought it was a better flowing experience than the original, with more fun combat. The shorter length makes it a much tighter experience as well.
Man this is one of my favorites games simple because the story makes me feel like I’m playing one of those low budget movies that you like watching @2am
Honestly, I just find this game pretty average. I love gritty crime narratives but Dead Men seems kinda meh when compared to other alternatives, both in movies and video games. It's not bad, but it's not particularly great, either. But at the same time, I have a soft spot for this game (as well as its sequel, believe it or not) and I don't regret ever playing it.
Well, in terms of crime-based third person shooters, there isn't much to recommend, as majority of shooting games are either military or sci-fi (and in some cases, horror games or stealth titles), so my closest recommendation would probably be the GTA titles, as well as the sandbox game Sleeping Dogs, given the Shanghai setting. I dunno, it's kinda hard to find a game similar to Kane & Lynch, both in terms of gameplay and setting.
@@archivedaccount5990 Exactly, whenever I try to think of an alternative it's always an open-world game. I just want another gritty crime story based singleplayer game like *K&L* or *Hitman* (or even *Max Payne 2,* that one is among my fav of all time) Games like *GTA,* *Mafia II* and *Driver,* were also real good. But I just want a linear game. Btw, I always wanted to try *Sleeping Dogs,* and since you reminded me of it, will do soon. Thanks a bunch.
The Co-Op for the bank level was amazing. I remember playing it with my cousin; Him as Lynch shooting people. On his screen they were cops and all kinds of weird creatures. Such a cool atmosphere that you only got when playing co-op. I loved both games though, so probably have some bias
The more interesting multiplayer feature is when you pick Lynch in co-op, and you start getting hallucinations of the civilians as cops. Unreliable player perspectives are honestly something I would like to see in another multiplayer game.
Worst game ever made?!? Seriously? I frickin loved it when it came out! It still stands out as one of the most ambitious games I ever played and while I'm sure it suffers from technical issues after 15+ years and hasn't aged well, the potential is clearly there for a reboot. Amazing level/mission designs.
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Same, but I kinda had to find out about that on my own, pretty much by accident, as I don't remember the game at any point explaining that, not even during the prologue chapter.
This game and the sequel are two of my favorite third person shooters of all time,t he story was pretty gritty and the second one from Lynch's perspective was great for the few hours it was. They reminded me a lot of Max Payne 3 and I loved it.
To me, I enjoyed it for the characters and the feel of it. Like, it's fun to imagine the backstories that characters just mention in idle chat during missions and you get the sense that everyone in it is real and genuinely dangerous. Made watching it thrilling even if the "realistic" recoil (tap fire and aim a bit lower than where you want to shoot) and reload times were a nightmare.
@@thomassowellaudiobooks6441 I'm older I remember forum & comment sections wars when Bethesda took Fallout and did FO3? That was something... hope they loose it after F76 fiasco and Microsoft buy Fallout and give it back to Obsidian.
@@EarthboundX in videogames industry? Yes. Anything below 9/10 is a failure and journalists/reviewers get under fire by publishers. After all, gaming journalist are part of the marketing machine. It is pathological but what can you do beside another market crash?
@@EarthboundX its average. The problem wasnt the review itself, it was all the money that io gave them to get this game a good score. Lol didnt see that shitstorm on GS SW since they gave zelda tp an 8.8
I also have a love/hate relationship with Dead Men. There is so much unused or waasted potential that in the right hands could have been a really outstanding game. Both Characters deserve to be fleshed out and the mexico mission really is a stain on an otherwise interessting story. I think Kane and Lynch deserve a remake with more depth, better gameplay/gunplay, extended story threads and a new epilogue and it could be massively improved. But unfortunately I doubt that Square/Enix will do something with the brand in the next years and IO Interactive only got the rights for Hitman and Freedom Fighters back. Such a shame :/
If only IO could've worked on another Kane & Lynch, after Hitman Absolution since they rly improved the combat in Absolution. My only issue with both K&L games was the bare-bones gameplay, like Gears.
Really enjoyed this game, one of the few ones with split-sreen multiplayer on PC, also, its weird but this game could easily work as a movie somehow, would have been cool if Bruce Willis played Kane.
K&L2 sucked so bad that i literally felt rewarded in Hitman Absolution blowing those 2 characters brains out when i spottted them in the gun range mission.
@@davidgomez7882 I'm sure that when they're done with hitman 3 (most likely their next game) they will begin a new project, like FF. Or just make another hitman game.
The bad bullet spread is intentional. I never minded it as its fits with the theme. But what makes it bad is how the levels in K&L1 are not designed around it with tons of far away enemies, which K&L 2 fixed (kinda).
I think both K&L games are underrated because it takes a certain type of person with the patience to properly appreciate them. It's not for everyone but there's nothing else quite like them.
At the end you say K&L 2 is worse. Wat? The sequel was actually kinda cool in it's shittiness. Kane & Lynch 2 is one of my guilty pleasures. I've finished the game several times. It's actually one of the few games I immediately restarted after having finished it the first time, just to play it one the hardest difficulty (which, to be fair, was one of the most frustrating experiences ever).
Always liked playin kane and lynch 2 with my friends in coop and multiplayer - it is a guilty pleasure but i would wish that some other game would rock the pseudo documentary style someday
Also the likes on your comments are just over the top fanboys. Ive been watching you since you only had 300 subs im just pointing out something. Its funny how you only reply to negative stuff none of the questions ive asked over the years cheers mate
I liked the first one probally because it was one of the first co op games I played with my brothers and friends on this gen, but when the 2nd game came out 3 years years later and I've seen this gens potential I've realized they could've done whole alot better.
I still remember this coming out... twas me senior year of high school. I NEVER played it but I still remember the advertisements 'till t his day. A simpler time in me life.
I like the first half, totally agree with the weird shift in the second half. We went cool heat like robberies and John sick club shootouts to ... Rambo?
despite their flaws, i love both Kane & Lynch games and they are one of my favourite shooters lol.. I prefer Dog Days over Dead Men tho.. just a couple of corrections: it's Venezeula and cuba not Mexico, and the soundtrack to Dead Men is awesome! Check out the songs Retomoto Death Squad, Subway Fight and Mall Fight..
What I like about the story is that instead of player progressing to a happy conclusion it goes backwards and constantly gets more and more fucked until your metaphorical defeat
when you play lynch you experience these hallucinations. first playthrough there were multiple times i said to my mate "i swear that cop had a pig head". as well as in the bank heist i had to keep the hostages in and hold off the cops only to turn around and see a room full of cops all of sudden. turns out i killed all the hostages. it was only until the tunnel chase mission my friend noticed i was killing innocents. we were high and it took us a while to realise but when we did, holy shit was that cool. despite its flaws, i loved this game when it came out.
I can listen to your voice all day. I remember playing this game way back in my younger years, dying in that junkyard level with the big tractor thing. Good review Triple G!
Imagine in some altered reality that Rockstar picked up and developed Kane and Lynch 3? R Rockstar are masters of character/story creation and satisfying gameplay. They would do an epic job! These two just fit perfect into Rockstars world of story telling.
To be Fair. I only Played this game with My Twin Brother in Co-Op Mode. Some of the best time despite who we playin as and why I was Player 1 and not Lynch. Game may not be perfect but the memories if shared with someone is awesome. Another game that comes to mind is Army of Two. :D
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Hey mate. This game had a super cool but subtitle feature that no one ever talks about. I’m one of the few people on earth who tried to finish this game in split screen with a friend and i noticed that in one of the missions some of the cops weren’t armed and would try and run away and hide during all the shooting. I got my friend to come over and look at a cop hiding behind a bin, but on his screen it was just a member of the public. Either we had a mad bug or the developer had made my characters delusions real. Still not sure either way, but it’s a fantastic idea
Hey Gggmanlives, you plan on reviewing Red Dead Redemption 2??
@@halihandroit's a mechanic in game for Lynch as he becomes more unstable without meds, it happens the whole way through. So many amazing ideas in this game and the sequel.
Lynch - the original Trevor.
Kane - the original Michael.
Great comment! 😀 I didn't think of that.
Both games are nods to the film Heat:
Waingro - the original Trevor.
Neil McCauley - the original Michael.
@i cant believe its not anime shut up
Thats what I was thinking
Michael and Trevor really have a lot of similarities to Kane and Lynch that go way beyond the simple archetypal roles that they both fill, especially with Kane himself and Lynch's perception and constant criticism of Kane. Kane is regretful and family oriented- just like Michael. Kane has a tendency towards dishonesty and a history of betraying his criminal sidekicks- just like Michael. And Lynch is constantly yelling at Kane over his disloyalty and dishonesty- just like Trevor does to Michael. The big difference though is that with Kane and Lynch, everything actually makes sense. With GTA 5, why does Trevor just start tagging around with his buddy who betrayed him like nothing happened, and even when he finds out for sure that he got his other comrade (Brad) killed, he just acts very passive aggressively towards Michael, not once actually making any serious threats of hurting him like the violent psychopath we're supposed to believe he is.
The roles of Kane and Lynch are very much reversed- Kane is the hardened, experienced mercenary, and Lynch is the soft newbie who would probably get his teeth kicked in by Kane if he actually tried anything towards him, which explains why he never does. Kane isn't the least bit intimidated by Lynch, and would definitely have killed him after the bank massacre if he didn't need him alive. Their relationship works because, even though they're two violent criminals who probably want each other dead, they have no choice but to work together because they're the only people they can count on. The same can't be said for Trevor and Michael- it doesn't make sense and makes Trevor come across as a whiny, clingy child.
The best part of the game is that the coop player playing Lynch suffers his psychosis so you see cops instead of civilians.
Im so fucking glad some one mentioned this. Co-Op this game was great.. Seeing innocents and civiliians as LEOS explained why he was shooting so much shit in single player hahaha
Oh shit and rappelling into the Skycraper and the HEAT mission felt great at the time.
Come to think of it, the locations this game offered was great. Each setting was depicted well, and those NPS numbers!
@@badnetcode6228 the truth, I remember playing with my older brother. An amazing experience and an amazing game
@@reecegoodinson761 same but opposite when I play this at my dads place with my little brother I was i think 7 at the time and he was 5 or 6 now im 19 and he is 18.
This game legit had some of the best banter in gaming. It felt pretty real. Fked up...but real.
Damn, i didnt know about this.
Just as a correction, the game never takes place in Mexico. They fly to Havana, Cuba to assist some faction in a civil war. And according to the wiki they go from Cuba to a Jungle in Venezuela.
@@intense_pickle yeah, cause just saying that they are going to Havana is not clear enough for some aparently
@@intense_pickle Wikis are reliable 95% of the time, dude. They include sources you can check. Same goes for game Wikis.
You're right, I just misspoke.
@@Gggmanlives been following your reviews long enough to know you are a man of knowledge, it was an easy mistake to make :)
@@VergilHiltsLT That sounds fucked obviously they ain't the best source of info since anyone can basically edit it, but are you pulling that number out of your ass?
I quite like this game despite the bad reviews, I had a good time playing it.
It had one of the best maps released. They felt perfectly large and cinematic.
You are not alone my friend.
Centurion.F72 agrees
I first played it when it came out on PC and hated how shitty it performed on my rather decent system. I've picked it up again on steam cheap, mainly cause I bought Dog Days. I've given Dead Men another chance and it's nothing too special but I'm having fun with it.
Both games are great.
Piss on the reviews.
For me, this game was one of my most guilty pleasures. The bank and skyscraper levels were so awesome!
Does anyone secretly wish for Kane & Lynch 3?
I do.
All the time, maybe more likely IOI is independent and the Hitman's have done well. Or they could get the rights for HEAT and make it into a game, damn that would be great!
Just to see how bad it is
Imagine these characters but in a polished refined experience! I love the first two but they are flawed
Me too
The game is from 2007 but to me, it looks pretty nice to the eyes. I think the visual style has aged well.
Crysis came out in 2007 too. Graphics haven't so much improved in the last decade as just thrown a bunch of post-processing on top.
the newer rendering methods are what have improved, like TX anti-aliasing which actually deletes aliasing instead of FSAA which just blurs the edges and looks like the screen has vaseline on it, and john carmack's work in megatextures really makes the difference between last gen and current gen games night and day
@@AleK0451 Eh... MoH Airborne and The Darkness still look fine. UE3 has aged like dogshit for sure, but most 7th gen games suffer more from poor colour grading and art direction than anything else. Hell, they were still using the Hitman 1 engine up until K&L2. Prefer supersampling to TXAA and megatexture doesn't impress me so much as object density in something like Hitman or Witcher 3.
Art direction was on point for these games.
It's crazy how "modern" it still looks. Not even purely on graphical fidelity. Just jumping on the video and watching some bits it can easily pass as predecessor to GTA 5 and it came out before even 4 was released lol. Holds up well with all those "new" mitiplayer style of games (aka battle royales), specifically the TPS ones as well. It's hilarious!
Freedom Fighters had the same exact reload mechanic.
I/O has learned a lot since Kane & Lynch. Imagine a Kane & Lynch 3 with the engine and shooting mechanics from the recent Hitman games. I'd be all over that.
As much as reboots have become overdone in the gaming industry, I think it'd be the best option for the Kayne and Lynch franchise. With the right talent, the story could be so much better, and with the shooting from the recent Hitman games, it could be pretty solid.
@@MajorFret
Absolutely. There is potential there for a great game.
IOI do not have the rights for K&L anymore, Square Enix got them when they split.
@@oliver24x lol they have it and also square enix they don't wanna get this game from IO Interactive and Square Enix wants to sell the company (IO Interactive that includes also kane and lynch) to another publisher if they want to buy it but IO Interactive wants to be a independent for future purposes only and the recently game was Hitman 2 was published by Warner Bros Interactive
p.s. you got wrong information buddy hahahahaha
All i heard was freedom fighters bro.... imagine that in 2018 🔥🔥🔥
I dont care what anyone else says, this game has an amazing story and really great characters.
Big fax, I’d absolutely love a third game
I actually really like this series because of how gritty it is and the relationship between the protagonists. Wish we'd get a third one.
Finding out people considered this one of the worst games blew my mind. I remember playing this game co-op with my brother and we loved it. Even to this day we go back to it every once and a while.
Same… this one of those games that make me feel very nostalgic.
There called gatekeepers they know it’s good but they don’t want too give the credit
Despite all its numerous flaws, this will always be one of my favourite games.
Like it or not, it did what it aimed to do perfectly, and that was adapting Of Mice And Men into a video game.
It's not very big, it's not very detailed, but if you allow yourself to be immersed in the story, to identify with the characters, it's one of the most unique and memorable experiences you'll ever have.
For the first time in a long time, I truly cared about the fates of the protagonists. I didn't just go through the motions in order to complete a series of tasks. I felt like I was desperately trying to uncock an utterly messed up situation, and for that, I believe this game deserves my eternal praise.
People praise hitman, but despite all its technical wonders, I never was able to give a shit(I know it was kind of the point, but still) about any of the story or the characters. K&L gave me the kind of tingles I haven't felt from this developer since I first played Freedom Fighters.
I understand everyone who hates this game, because the grass pop-in kind of kills the mood off the bat, but if I ever get drunk enough that I stop caring about bullshite like that, I always load in K&L 1-2 and have an absolute goddamned blast.
"You-should-have-let-me-talk-to-them!"
Never has a scene in a video game made me feel this much before, or after.
Lol, I was going to ask if you'd ever cover Kane and Lynch!
@@BoyBlunder66 he likes the same things as you, so he watches the same videos as you and comments on them lol
I was always a big fan of these games. The voice acting and little details in a 11 year old game were always nice. Many nights spent in the Kane and Lynch forums too.
The finale was in Cuba, too
Kane & Lynch has an interesting idea to it, and if given more time to flesh out the characters, the game would've been much better narrative-wise.
Agreed. If there was some semblance to a backstory to flesh out the title characters, then the story would've been more engaging.
I mean, Kane was an ex-soldier, right? So maybe there was some kind of operation that gone south and he got discharged, so he turns to working for a crime organization for money. And Lynch could have an extreme case of PTSD, which would justify his psychotic episodes.
Dunno, I'm just spitballing ideas.
I was fine with its story, the bare-bones gameplay was my issue. Still tho, I enjoyed both games.
I thought the story was okay. Though you might be onto something on giving it some improvement.
I have a soft spot for both entires, and would like to see some kind of follow-up with these ideas.
Kane didn't steal money from The Seven. In fact it was never revealed in the game what he had stolen. It was something important obviously, but it was kept as a mystery throughout.
I had hoped that the sequel would've explained it. But for some reason the devs just forgot about it and went with a completely different story in Shanghai of all places.
Kane and lynch, a series that sadly is only remembered because of the gamespot controversy.
I just heard this about this controversy almost a decade after playing the first game.
AnimeWolfgamer what is it? I loved the game.
That review that dropped and shat it into oblivion making everyone well aware of how awful it is, as much as the cult following it has can disagree or find guilty pleasure in it
Righteous, I still long for a 3rd game despite how unlikely that is to happen.
I forgot about that tbh.
Both Kane & Lynch games are some of my personal favourite action games. Yeah, sure they have their problems, but that never stopped me from enjoying them a lot. And the soundtrack is kickass especially the first one's.
J.B Strangetrousers it has a bit of a John Wick feel now that I think about it
soundtrack is pretty badass, surprised Gman didn't care for it.
@@ericgarcia9110 Its more The Collateral than overhyperd John Wick movie.
J.B Strangetrousers The first one was my favorite, second one was meh.
I like this game, cool story it had
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It was over hyped but if you went in with low expectations it would surprise you.
The game is very broken but the art is good. It's very Michael Mannish, which should be enough to keep some people interested.
Same with second one except it had a HK crime movie vibe instead.
I personally like this game so much. AI teammate can be confused sometimes, but it's manageable even on hardest difficulty. It has some flaws, but what hook me is characters and storytelling which reminds me of Heat. Psycho protagonist like Lynch might not be well executed more than game script, but it's something we rarely see in video game.
I enjoy experience for both Kane & Lynch. For story, I prefer first one, but second one for atmosphere. I wish there's more games like this.
0:58 I've heard "worst game ever made" thrown around so much it's become almost meaningless.
Please do a review on Kane & Lynch 2 Dog Days. I kind of like this game as a guilty pleasure
The found footage style was cool. I remember headshooting people pixellated their bodies. That was a pretty awesome.
Same here
That game was really conflicting. It was on the fine line between unplayable and mediocre but some unknown force compelled me to push through to the end.
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I have really fond memories about Kane & Lynch 2, I loved the multiplayer, but it has been a real long time since i played it
Kane and Lynch is like Max Payne 3 stuck in the early 2000s
Early 2000s? This shit came out in 2007 lmao. Max payne 1 and 2 bith came out in the early 2000s wtf r u talking about 😂
Demetrius Ervin Kane and lynch both stylistically, and game wise is way more generic than max Payne 3. Payne 2-3 has a huge overhaul in the story, and graphics. Kane and lynch just takes every stiff, generic features of every post 90s shooters. The fact that this game came out 6 years after Max Payne 1, and is only 5 years older than Max Payne 3 shows how water down IO studios made everything to fit into a commercial product.
Max Payne 3's gameplay wasn't better than 1&2's imo. It was even more linear, they shoehorned in a cover mechanic, no dream sequences, and can't use thrown weapons in single-player.
also IT ISNT MEXICO its Havana in Cuba
"Things really go to shit once you get to Mexico."
Bonus points for realism i guess.
Something special could've really came out of Kane and Lynch. The had a good blueprint with the first game that could've led into fantastic sequel but took a risk that went very sour.
R.I.P to what could've been
Yeah, you can at least say the seccond Kane and lynch tried something different with the setting and the gross found footage camera like effects... It just overdid its style to a point where it jeopardized the entire game. Plus, even if you haven't played the game, that ending is one of the worst endings in any game, ever....
@@admech590 yea man spot on. Maybe one day they'll reboot it but i highly doubt it but you never know
WTF. This was one of the coolest co-op shooters ever created. Absolutely flawless story and characters, memorable enviroments and plot twists, multiple endings... I loved this game a lot :-)
I really loved this game mostly because I played it with my dad and it was back in the day when he and me would have the time to just sit and play games.
K&L 1 and 2 are a guilty pleasure of mine. I still believe Kane & Lynch 2 had a stellar unique art style and phenomenal multiplayer mode in Fragile Alliance and I'll die on that hill.
I feel Rockstar should've made a sequel/remake to this game instead of Max Payne 3. It fits the MP3 style more than MP3 if that makes sense.
Actually the characters of Kane and Lynch really remind me of GTA V's Michael and Trevor: the thief and the psychopath paired up for heist jobs.
Agreed I wasn't a fan of the 3rd game had excellent combat but the story was really shitty completely missed the noir feel of the first 2. In 3 u just felt like a drunk holiday rep with a gun
Max Payne 3 was an awesome game though
@@3beyondthesun3 yeah but with trevor it made sense somewhat cause he was a high functioning psychopath. Here, there is literally no reason why lunch should on this team due to how unhinged he is. Like when you're having hallucinations, it's probably not the best idea to be on a heist.
I thought I was the only one that thought about this. I love the atmosphere, story and music of the first Kane and Lynch game, but the gunplay and movement are pretty clunky. Imagine a Kane and lynch game with the gameplay of max payne 3. That would be my all time fav game
Kind of love this two games, but almost everyone seems to hate it, bummer
i loved them
@@andromeda530 right on
Its mine 1st Tps game of all time
I really enjoyed the first K&L game too, I never got around to playing the second though. For all K&L flaws, I had a lot of fun playing it. It felt like Army of Two if Ao2 was written by Martin Scorsese instead of Quentin Tarantino.
@Gggmanlives just a correction THERE IS a reload button
its binded to the action key (E by default)
Don't care, I love Kane & Lynch 2. That game was gritty, visceral, and I thought it was a better flowing experience than the original, with more fun combat. The shorter length makes it a much tighter experience as well.
I kinda liked this game as a guilty pleasure.
I liked both Kane & Lynch games. Didn't love them, but I got some fun out of them.
Man this is one of my favorites games simple because the story makes me feel like I’m playing one of those low budget movies that you like watching @2am
Honestly, I just find this game pretty average.
I love gritty crime narratives but Dead Men seems kinda meh when compared to other alternatives, both in movies and video games.
It's not bad, but it's not particularly great, either.
But at the same time, I have a soft spot for this game (as well as its sequel, believe it or not) and I don't regret ever playing it.
I LOVE both games, unapologetically, but I'm curious, what would you suggest for alternatives?
Well, in terms of crime-based third person shooters, there isn't much to recommend, as majority of shooting games are either military or sci-fi (and in some cases, horror games or stealth titles), so my closest recommendation would probably be the GTA titles, as well as the sandbox game Sleeping Dogs, given the Shanghai setting.
I dunno, it's kinda hard to find a game similar to Kane & Lynch, both in terms of gameplay and setting.
@@archivedaccount5990 Exactly, whenever I try to think of an alternative it's always an open-world game. I just want another gritty crime story based singleplayer game like *K&L* or *Hitman* (or even *Max Payne 2,* that one is among my fav of all time) Games like *GTA,* *Mafia II* and *Driver,* were also real good. But I just want a linear game.
Btw, I always wanted to try *Sleeping Dogs,* and since you reminded me of it, will do soon. Thanks a bunch.
The Co-Op for the bank level was amazing. I remember playing it with my cousin; Him as Lynch shooting people. On his screen they were cops and all kinds of weird creatures. Such a cool atmosphere that you only got when playing co-op.
I loved both games though, so probably have some bias
5:40 "I was aiming for her legs"
I enjoyed this back when it was released but the cover system is broken which make it unpleasent in the later levels.
The more interesting multiplayer feature is when you pick Lynch in co-op, and you start getting hallucinations of the civilians as cops. Unreliable player perspectives are honestly something I would like to see in another multiplayer game.
Worst game ever made?!? Seriously? I frickin loved it when it came out! It still stands out as one of the most ambitious games I ever played and while I'm sure it suffers from technical issues after 15+ years and hasn't aged well, the potential is clearly there for a reboot. Amazing level/mission designs.
You're one of my top five channels, if I wasnt currently in between places, I'd totally support you... But know that as soon as I get in a comfortable place, you'll be one of the first I support on Patreon. Keep up the good work Buddy! I LOOOVE you content!
But there is a reload button. I played it with a game pad, and by pressing the action button on both 360 and PC, you reload.
Yeah u can reload with E on pc
Same, but I kinda had to find out about that on my own, pretty much by accident, as I don't remember the game at any point explaining that, not even during the prologue chapter.
I really enjoyed this series as a whole, kinda wish there was a 3
I remember this game being extremely popular when it was released the second one was the one that everyone hated
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This game and the sequel are two of my favorite third person shooters of all time,t he story was pretty gritty and the second one from Lynch's perspective was great for the few hours it was. They reminded me a lot of Max Payne 3 and I loved it.
Love the story and characters. Gameplay was a little janky but I still enjoyed playing back in the day :)
To me, I enjoyed it for the characters and the feel of it. Like, it's fun to imagine the backstories that characters just mention in idle chat during missions and you get the sense that everyone in it is real and genuinely dangerous. Made watching it thrilling even if the "realistic" recoil (tap fire and aim a bit lower than where you want to shoot) and reload times were a nightmare.
I remember Jeff Gerstman from Gamespot getting fired over his review of this game.
Yep. And his review was spot on. This game was crap.
@@thomassowellaudiobooks6441 I'm older
I remember forum & comment sections wars when Bethesda took Fallout and did FO3? That was something... hope they loose it after F76 fiasco and Microsoft buy Fallout and give it back to Obsidian.
Is a 6 out of 10 really a crap score?
That's an above average score in my book.
@@EarthboundX in videogames industry? Yes. Anything below 9/10 is a failure and journalists/reviewers get under fire by publishers.
After all, gaming journalist are part of the marketing machine. It is pathological but what can you do beside another market crash?
@@EarthboundX its average. The problem wasnt the review itself, it was all the money that io gave them to get this game a good score. Lol didnt see that shitstorm on GS SW since they gave zelda tp an 8.8
Idk why but hearing gggmanlives 5:11 saying “pretty dope” is the best thing I’ve ever heard. Like, I can die knowing I’ve seen all life has to offer.
Mediocre game, amazing characters
i love first kane and lynch, despite all its odd mechanics like reroading or cover system, i just love the story, the character and even last levels
Upcoming kane and lynch will be amazing
david Davidson hell yeah. My cousin work at io interactive
IO sold the rights to K&L to Square Enix in the split.
I was JUST thinking about the whole Gamespot review fiasco involving this franchise back in the day. Small world.
I also have a love/hate relationship with Dead Men. There is so much unused or waasted potential that in the right hands could have been a really outstanding game. Both Characters deserve to be fleshed out and the mexico mission really is a stain on an otherwise interessting story. I think Kane and Lynch deserve a remake with more depth, better gameplay/gunplay, extended story threads and a new epilogue and it could be massively improved. But unfortunately I doubt that Square/Enix will do something with the brand in the next years and IO Interactive only got the rights for Hitman and Freedom Fighters back. Such a shame :/
SquareEnix is only following trends by now with his ocidental games. Maybe an f2p battleroyale Kane Lynch would pop up, lol
If only IO could've worked on another Kane & Lynch, after Hitman Absolution since they rly improved the combat in Absolution. My only issue with both K&L games was the bare-bones gameplay, like Gears.
Really enjoyed this game, one of the few ones with split-sreen multiplayer on PC, also, its weird but this game could easily work as a movie somehow, would have been cool if Bruce Willis played Kane.
picked up wolfenstein new order after ur review in the autmn sale and was not disappointed
Glad you enjoyed it, bro!
Grab the old blood too. It's better imo
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HAHAH THE CIVILLIAN LOL
I did not expect that omg
Liked both the games, even if they are pretty lackluster. Always fun drinking a couple beers while going through co-op with some friends
I love both Kane & Lynch games played them a bunch in my younger years
K&L2 sucked so bad that i literally felt rewarded in Hitman Absolution blowing those 2 characters brains out when i spottted them in the gun range mission.
Biggest Mikey lol I remember that.
I really want a Kane and Lynch remake.
Funny you should say you feel like Robert De Niro. I haven't played the game but Lynch strikes me as a straight up Waingro rip-off.
Yes it is. And GTAV has a lot of inspirations on both. Trevor is Lynch x100
The nightclub scene is also very Collateral so the references to Mann films are all over this.
@@KaiSoDaM Trevor reminds me more of Tig from Sons of Anarchy.
Another superb review!!! Love the channel mate, keep doing what you're doing cause it's fuckin spot on!!!
IO interactive cancelled freedom fighters 2 for this shit franchise.
Also can you do a review for freedom fighters.
@PUPPET MASTER your wrong Electronic Arts held keep it to their secret safe duhhh!!!!
@PUPPET MASTER dude, it's been 15 years! There's no way they'll bring it back. As much as I love Freedom Fighters, its as good as dead
@@davidgomez7882 I'm sure that when they're done with hitman 3 (most likely their next game) they will begin a new project, like FF. Or just make another hitman game.
The bad bullet spread is intentional. I never minded it as its fits with the theme.
But what makes it bad is how the levels in K&L1 are not designed around it with tons of far away enemies, which K&L 2 fixed (kinda).
Yes, more GGGmanlives!
I think both K&L games are underrated because it takes a certain type of person with the patience to properly appreciate them.
It's not for everyone but there's nothing else quite like them.
Just bought this for $0.97 on Steam, it'll be impressive if it is so bad it wasn't even worth that
Love the reference to Michael Mann’s movies . Heat and collateral defiantly defined this aesthetic and story
I remember I picked both games for about 6 Canadian bucks
That is about 6 Canadian bucks more than the games are worth.
I really enjoyed the coop mode in this game back in the day. I actually dog days as well
hello old chap, plz make a swat 2 review, m8.
I remember I actually loved this game when it came out. Was interesting playing it with a friend and stuff.
Hope you do kane and lynch 2 next, it's a much better game
You are ironic, right?
kane and lynch 2 dogshit ?
kane & lynch 2 was a piece of shit. 4 HOURS
Kanye and lunch 2 is the worst seaqule to a serious game
Gosh, seems like everyone thinks the first one was better. I definitely thought the sequel was miles better than the first one.
This was the first game I played on the 360 and I loved it, I really enjoyed the multiplayer for it too I had some fun moments on it
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This one of my all time favorites! It wasnt the most developed hame but it was great for what it was
At the end you say K&L 2 is worse. Wat? The sequel was actually kinda cool in it's shittiness. Kane & Lynch 2 is one of my guilty pleasures. I've finished the game several times. It's actually one of the few games I immediately restarted after having finished it the first time, just to play it one the hardest difficulty (which, to be fair, was one of the most frustrating experiences ever).
Kl2 was like Hotline Miami as a tps. I liked it
I like both games, but prefer Dead Men. Only things I enjoyed more about Dog Days was its polished shooting, and addition of an arcade mode.
2 is the only one I have played and man is it a bad game. It's more like a launch PS2 game than a PS3 game lol
crazy how the night club has more npcs then cyber punks open city streets
Please review Vanquish, I am just gonna ask again here LOL 😂
Always liked playin kane and lynch 2 with my friends in coop and multiplayer - it is a guilty pleasure but i would wish that some other game would rock the pseudo documentary style someday
Using Hitman 2 as a tag to get views 🙄
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@@awfulagent4797 you didnt show up in any of these games! Using your pupularity to show up amongst the videos .....very cheeky
You should try it, might get more than 1k subs.
Been watching you for years and never expected it... and id rather have legit 1k than putting false titles mate. You're better than that anyway
Also the likes on your comments are just over the top fanboys. Ive been watching you since you only had 300 subs im just pointing out something. Its funny how you only reply to negative stuff none of the questions ive asked over the years cheers mate
I liked the first one probally because it was one of the first co op games I played with my brothers and friends on this gen, but when the 2nd game came out 3 years years later and I've seen this gens potential I've realized they could've done whole alot better.
I WANT FREEDOM FIGHTERS 2
I still remember this coming out... twas me senior year of high school.
I NEVER played it but I still remember the advertisements 'till t his day.
A simpler time in me life.
I like the first half, totally agree with the weird shift in the second half. We went cool heat like robberies and John sick club shootouts to ... Rambo?
despite their flaws, i love both Kane & Lynch games and they are one of my favourite shooters lol..
I prefer Dog Days over Dead Men tho.. just a couple of corrections: it's Venezeula and cuba not Mexico, and the soundtrack to Dead Men is awesome!
Check out the songs Retomoto Death Squad, Subway Fight and Mall Fight..
The way you described this game reminds me a lot of Army of Two
Feels like a successor to The Getaway in PS2.
What I like about the story is that instead of player progressing to a happy conclusion it goes backwards and constantly gets more and more fucked until your metaphorical defeat
Can we have a quick moment for that insanely impressive nightclub scene for a 2007 game? Great video as always, G3.
when you play lynch you experience these hallucinations. first playthrough there were multiple times i said to my mate "i swear that cop had a pig head". as well as in the bank heist i had to keep the hostages in and hold off the cops only to turn around and see a room full of cops all of sudden. turns out i killed all the hostages. it was only until the tunnel chase mission my friend noticed i was killing innocents. we were high and it took us a while to realise but when we did, holy shit was that cool. despite its flaws, i loved this game when it came out.
I can listen to your voice all day. I remember playing this game way back in my younger years, dying in that junkyard level with the big tractor thing. Good review Triple G!
Imagine in some altered reality that Rockstar picked up and developed Kane and Lynch 3? R Rockstar are masters of character/story creation and satisfying gameplay. They would do an epic job! These two just fit perfect into Rockstars world of story telling.
I remember when i entered the night club for the first time, my jaw droped.
To be Fair. I only Played this game with My Twin Brother in Co-Op Mode. Some of the best time despite who we playin as and why I was Player 1 and not Lynch. Game may not be perfect but the memories if shared with someone is awesome.
Another game that comes to mind is Army of Two. :D
Your first sentence is EXACTLY how I felt. Unbelievably hyped for Kane and Lynch for like two years. Then......