LONG TERM RESULTS of Disc Replacement Surgery. Interviews with patients up to 15 years after ADR .

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  • @podocrypto6072
    @podocrypto6072 Рік тому +8

    Why is there no updated post surgery reviews newer than 5yrs old??

  • @garyheller62
    @garyheller62 Рік тому +10

    I had ADR 22 years ago at this writing and I've had fantastic results! I couldn't recommend it enough based on my own experience.

    • @kingloz36
      @kingloz36 Рік тому

      Wow what disc did you get? And what levels?

  • @truthseeker3376
    @truthseeker3376 5 років тому +15

    Thank you all soooo much for doing this!! I have hpoe for the first time in 7 years..

  • @barbied7650
    @barbied7650 Рік тому +1

    Distraction pain...yes, Thank yall for covering that issue!!!!

  • @ancientknowledge525
    @ancientknowledge525 5 років тому +5

    I had adr c 4-5 and C 5-6 about 6 months ago. Best decision I think although I still have arthritis type pain in my neck at times but it's relatively mild. I felt like 90-95% better. NOTE: This surgery is no cake walk, worse then my C section and longer recovery then expected. BUT my main ssue now is I woke up a few weeks back with rather severe pain. I also have C 6-7 not replaced but a bad disk. Mild herniation. The pain could be coming from there because I fell two months back. The disk may be worse now after falling. Unfortunately in the US you can only have a double disk replacement which I had but the other disk would need fusion possibly.. The surgeon said C 6-7 wasn't bad enough for surgery.

    • @nledelnr
      @nledelnr 3 роки тому +1

      I hope your recovery is doing well. I am being encouraged to get a fusion at c6,c7 in a month and I'm really freaked out by it. I'm glad that your procedure went well.

  • @davidlindgren7605
    @davidlindgren7605 4 роки тому +11

    "nobody knows how much a man can whine than his wife." Great quote, Darian! haha

  • @2adude906
    @2adude906 4 роки тому +3

    Wonderful video and group of people...i really appreciate everyone's input and time. I would love to see a followup video. Thank you!

  • @rcolucci09
    @rcolucci09 5 років тому +10

    Great video. Do you think someone in their 30's could make it through a police academy after this procedure? It's over 3 miles running daily with strength exercises like firemans carry other people, and other intense workouts between everything else.

    • @4th_Gen_Proud_Texan
      @4th_Gen_Proud_Texan 4 роки тому +3

      I was wondering the very same thing...

    • @Spacecat683
      @Spacecat683 Рік тому

      You should always be cleared for anything prior to doing it. Based on what I have seen, read and think (personally) is to wait one year before you join.

  • @marioalday5966
    @marioalday5966 11 місяців тому +1

    I had 2 disc replacement at the neck 3 years ago. I got some relief for a couple of months or so. Today i am worse than before the surgery.

    • @smulestar
      @smulestar 10 місяців тому

      Hello Mario sorry for your pain. I'm from India and too poor to afford to fly to Germany to get ADR . What should I do

    • @marioalday5966
      @marioalday5966 10 місяців тому +1

      Before the surgery i was advised by some doctors to enter a controlled pain management program, as an alternative to surgery. Perhaps it can be a relief for some people. My problem was the ruptured discs were pressing the medula so it was necessary to remove the pressure and pain killers were not a solution, but might help you. The surgery did cost 35K USD and yes, it is expensive. The surgeon told me before the surgery, it is advised to wait for at least a couple of years before having the surgery if there is no neurological complications, because sometimes the pain may subside with time.

  • @10foxylady
    @10foxylady Рік тому +1

    So , disc replacement is better than fusion?

  • @10foxylady
    @10foxylady Рік тому

    Wow ! Colene history is just like mine! I had the back attacks just like her! I was getting paralyzed when I had the back attacks! Oh my goodness!

  • @Jonnybags007
    @Jonnybags007 3 роки тому +5

    Thank you so much for this video, I’m going for S1/L5 and L4/L5 lumbar disc replacement with ONZ spine connection in 4 weeks and this has settled my nerves somewhat so thank you.

    • @VishalPatel-fd1rn
      @VishalPatel-fd1rn 3 роки тому +3

      Greetings, how did the surgery go?

    • @mcuen6220
      @mcuen6220 2 роки тому +6

      @Vishal Patel I think most of those who leave comments like that must be commercial comments, otherwise they are nonsese

  • @marilynjrowley8633
    @marilynjrowley8633 Рік тому

    Gordon ... I'm impressed. I'm in Spanish Fork Utah. Please someone help me. I'm.a BYU fan also.

  • @tiffanihetrick5140
    @tiffanihetrick5140 2 роки тому +1

    Did most of you have the titanium ADR? My surgeon has recommended this surgery for me after having microdiskectomy of L4-L5. My disc has re-bulged and encroaching my nerve and at risk for reherniation. I see the vascular surgeon for consultation on Oct. 3rd and then go from there. Very scared of the recovery

  • @sgriff36
    @sgriff36 6 років тому +4

    I had the Charite Disc in 2005 at 37, was one the first to have done, and that disc was removed from market in 2012. Chronic pain for 13 yrs as I am now 50 biggest complaint and something you discussed in video “cushion” one of the design flaws, IMO, with the Charite disc is it doesn’t mimic natural movement nor provides cushion. Many issues surrounding the Charite thus why removed. So much in Advancement only wish I didn’t have my issues. Research these devices ask questions as I know that this a cutting edge tech, and is a lot more advanced then what hit market in 2004. My surgery was L5/S1 in Dec 2005 on regiment of medicine to deal with pain and nerve pain. Procedure done in the US

    • @melvingoodman7953
      @melvingoodman7953 6 років тому

      I

    • @brijeshrudani1764
      @brijeshrudani1764 5 років тому

      sgriff36 yes newer disc has movement but either it has more movement than natural disc or less movement. It’s big negative points of newer disc too . Also bone growth around disc is another negative points of ADR.

    • @binary
      @binary Рік тому

      For l5/s1 fusion isn't a bad option.

  • @JohnNodow
    @JohnNodow 2 місяці тому

    i guess this video was sth we all need to see cause no one talks about long term results of this hard surgery. btw I hope you can the exacaT one with people who had minimal invasive surgery which I guess is called OLLIF

  • @juicegeneral5082
    @juicegeneral5082 2 роки тому +2

    my question is what happens if the disc in the lumbar region goes bad? can it be replaced?

  • @maysmith7994
    @maysmith7994 3 роки тому +1

    Where in Germany Jim had his surgery? Which doctor please?

  • @lindareiche7910
    @lindareiche7910 7 місяців тому

    Do you know of any surgeon who has the ability to perform the spine disc replacements in the United States?

  • @RhetoricalMuse
    @RhetoricalMuse 2 роки тому +1

    35:00
    Him: 'Crossfit'
    Me: 'Uh oh'

  • @장민재-e8l
    @장민재-e8l 3 роки тому +3

    How these people doing today

  • @matmul4850
    @matmul4850 Рік тому

    Waw i had no idea people were doing double and triple disc replacements. Amazing

    • @brians2328
      @brians2328 Рік тому +1

      I've seen 4 in the cervical! America who?! 😂...Germany 🇩🇪 💪

    • @alistairclifton1286
      @alistairclifton1286 6 місяців тому

      Due to have a double in the next few months.

  • @anveshie
    @anveshie 2 роки тому

    Can people who underwent surgery show their recent MRI?

  • @nordicfreya671
    @nordicfreya671 5 років тому +2

    Hey guys, I'm from Bremen Germany and have an appointment next week. I have three messed up discs in the neck and four in the lower back, did you ever hear about people getting the neck and the back at the same time done?

    • @gSWG3R
      @gSWG3R 5 років тому +2

      It happens, but 7 discs at once is an absolutely massive surgery. You'd be looking at separate surgeries more than likely.

    • @tinacollins9213
      @tinacollins9213 4 роки тому

      Hope your op goes well , best wishes

    • @jessecano2392
      @jessecano2392 3 роки тому +1

      You are looking at 2 separate surgeries I had my neck c3,4,5,6,and 7 also had 3 discs replaced with cadaver discs they came in first from the front then from the back but surgery failed then I had my back fused from t9 to l2 it also failed I’m worse than before I had the surgeries my life is hell right now a lot of pain I have been in pain meds since my surgeries I I have talked to different doctors they can’t find the root of my pain I was diagnosed with failed back syndrome hope everything goes well god bless

    • @nordicfreya671
      @nordicfreya671 3 роки тому +1

      @@jessecano2392 I got my neck done in Stenum Germany,I big mess up, they damage my spinal cord and I have so much pain for a year now. At the hospital where they done my operation didn't even help me to operate it me and kikt me out. Next month go in a different hospital to help me with my pain.

    • @ibrahimozkan9313
      @ibrahimozkan9313 2 роки тому

      Hi can you update about your surgery and financial cost?and post operations?

  • @joeferreira7382
    @joeferreira7382 Рік тому +1

    In 2010 on the right side of my neck I had 2 disk replace in my neck , Now I feel like more went bad Like number 3 and 4 crushed on me , Every since I done this , it destroyed my life and all it is hurt 24/7 , I cannot go to sleep at night like a normal human being I feel like I'm on crack cocaine or something , and all I do is take pain killers,
    What can you tell me to do about this so I can get fixed and go back to work , The doctor that done this he absolutely FAILED, He did not know what he was doing , He discharged me and I had problems 3 months later And he would not see me no more

  • @Seekingtruth-mx3ur
    @Seekingtruth-mx3ur 3 роки тому +1

    Can you do boxing,mma and lift weights after ADR? Or is there limits?

  • @onethemdrakeboys
    @onethemdrakeboys Рік тому

    I need this so bad 😢

  • @tinacollins9213
    @tinacollins9213 4 роки тому +3

    What is ADR

  • @patriciasmith6992
    @patriciasmith6992 3 роки тому

    Is there a disc replacement for compression fracture of T3 T4 T5.

  • @Stavrosg76
    @Stavrosg76 2 роки тому

    Anyone needed a revision so far?

  • @shayneherr7628
    @shayneherr7628 10 місяців тому

    What is the average cost

  • @tinacollins9213
    @tinacollins9213 4 роки тому

    What hospital did you get it done

  • @abehaile2659
    @abehaile2659 Рік тому +1

    5 years since this channel last posted a video 😣

  • @Klein101
    @Klein101 4 роки тому +2

    I've just been told I need C5-7 fusion. I'm super active, surfing snowboarding and mountain biking and the thought of fusing my neck scares me that I won't be able to do the things I live for. Does anyone know if this surgery is available in Canada?

    • @makeupbykhani8178
      @makeupbykhani8178 4 роки тому

      Yes It must be available
      Go for LP ESP disc never go for M6 L

    • @Klein101
      @Klein101 4 роки тому

      @@makeupbykhani8178 thanks for replying, I know there are a number of replacement discs on the market that I've been looking into. Why do you say never go for m6 l?

    • @makeupbykhani8178
      @makeupbykhani8178 4 роки тому

      @@Klein101 I'm a member if a group named artificial disc replacement.
      There I have seen many people with failed M6L ... it displaced in them.

    • @makeupbykhani8178
      @makeupbykhani8178 4 роки тому

      And if you ste going to spent money then spent it on artificial disc replacement 😊

    • @impeccablebeats0448
      @impeccablebeats0448 4 роки тому

      does anyone know of a hospital/surgeon in Canada who does disc replacement in cervical spine? All ive ever heard from Canadian doctors (in GTA) are fusion. ACDF.

  • @MrPrivara
    @MrPrivara Рік тому

    in the 2000 patients who had any problems?

  • @MrPrivara
    @MrPrivara Рік тому

    how mach ADR Lumbar ?

  • @Stavrosg76
    @Stavrosg76 4 роки тому +2

    Are there any problems with running after lumbar ADR??

  • @mahoney3071
    @mahoney3071 7 років тому +6

    What are the most recent results? I understand fusion is still 33% improve, 33% see no change, and 33% get worse. I've heard similar results for ADR. Is that true, or has the success rate improved in the last 5 years? I'm an L4 L5, L5 S1 candidate due to DDD. My doctors have never even discussed ADR. I have always been told there was nothing other than fusion. I found out about you on my own.

    • @EnandeGmbH
      @EnandeGmbH  7 років тому +1

      HI Mahoney. The stats on ADR are pretty impressive, especially when working with second generation devices. We would encourage you to pick up a copy of To Fuse or Not to Fuse. It is full of information and statistics. You can get your own copy on Amazon or for free at this link: tofuseornottofuse.com

    • @arturcuryllo5832
      @arturcuryllo5832 7 років тому +2

      Mahoney Same here, my friend: I stumbled upon ADR out of desperation in severe L5/S1 herniation pain...just to find out that Spinal Kinetics manufactuers M6 IN THE USA and yet, FDA doesn't allow it (not sure if my info is up to date on that, but that was the latest when I looked a month ago). With that, I am saving serious money to habe it ready for when I need my L5/S1 replaced (the day is coming with the initial DDD diagnosis on my MRI. Maybe by then FDA will grow up and admit it based on international trials (quite successful, mind you)...if not, I will pay for it myself. I cannot have this pain again for the rest of my life (recovered about 90% as we speak). Good luck to you.

    • @EnandeGmbH
      @EnandeGmbH  7 років тому +1

      Thanks Artur. We feel the same way about the M6. They are nearing FDA approval for the cervical version, but they tell us they will likely devote their resources to getting multi-level cervical approval in the US before turning to lumbar. Of course, we have been doing 3-4 level cervical and lumbar for many years with the M6.

  • @andrewelkington4492
    @andrewelkington4492 4 роки тому +3

    Hi, I had a very large herniation l5 s1 and five spurs of bone. I had a microdesectamy. Since then I have re herniated the disc and are in extreme pain.
    The surgeon has recommended a fusion over a disc replacement and says its 70% success rate. Anyone else's opinion would be massively appreciated! Dire straights at the moment.
    Thank you.

  • @leelunk8235
    @leelunk8235 6 років тому +1

    WHICH IS BETTER ...M6C ADR OR MOBI-C~?

  • @tinacollins9213
    @tinacollins9213 4 роки тому +1

    I wish I could speak to all of you

  • @wkcheung8424
    @wkcheung8424 6 років тому

    I have c4/5 moderate, but c5/6 c6/7 mild in nerve, one doctor advised me to have surgery for c4/5 and c6/7 but second opinion from another doctor, it was c5/6 and c6/7, I am so confuse which one is correct, or I should seek third opinion?

  • @gideonmilano3199
    @gideonmilano3199 2 роки тому

    What is the name of the doctor in Germany who can do the surgery and where can i contact them

  • @rakeshkhanna8653
    @rakeshkhanna8653 2 роки тому

    Is this available in india

  • @seanflynn8301
    @seanflynn8301 6 років тому +2

    Does ANYONE have a suggestion for "Medical Loans" for a US patient trying to have surgery in "Germany"

    • @EnandeGmbH
      @EnandeGmbH  6 років тому

      I am sorry, but this is something we do not offer. While many people receive reimbursement from their insurance companies, we do not offer any finance options.

    • @mikyGTT
      @mikyGTT 6 років тому

      Yes, not in terms of loans but price. Have it done in Turkey, it's a common procedure there.

  • @marilynjrowley8633
    @marilynjrowley8633 Рік тому

    I need the link to FACEBOOK. Could someone give me the ink.

  • @davidlindgren7605
    @davidlindgren7605 4 роки тому

    why did you choose to get ADR instead of Fusion? Did you have any problems getting your insurance companies to pay for it?

    • @Dantesjoe
      @Dantesjoe 4 роки тому

      ADR is better. Why would you want to take two bones and make them move like one when you could replace the disk and have the bones move independently? ADR is apparently cheaper too.

    • @skylyon
      @skylyon 4 роки тому

      Actually not having surgery is better. Many studies show equivalent outcomes 5 years out with and without surgery. Why would you buy a metal and plastic object permanently in your body? Materials science studies show that the wear and debris from the implant increases exponentially as time passes. Inflammation and revision surgery get higher as time goes on. With each subsequent surgery, the probability of success falls dramatically. Surgery sets off a domino health effect.

    • @Dantesjoe
      @Dantesjoe 4 роки тому +5

      @@skylyon 5 years out from what? A little arthritis? A bulging disk? A herniated disk? A severely compressed nerve?
      5 Years of constant excruciating pain or 5 years of minor discomfort?
      The best approach is case by case evaluated by a professional. Sometimes those complications of surgery are worth not going through 5 years of something.

    • @skylyon
      @skylyon 4 роки тому +1

      @@Dantesjoe the complications from surgery down the road will definitely add up. The risks far outweighs the benefits in the long term. Chronic pain actually is more caused by stress and depression than compressed nerves.

    • @Dantesjoe
      @Dantesjoe 4 роки тому +1

      @@skylyon link to study?

  • @assissijoseph8632
    @assissijoseph8632 6 років тому +4

    What is the cost of surgery in general

    • @EnandeGmbH
      @EnandeGmbH  6 років тому +2

      Hello Assissi. For single level ADR with Enande/Dr. Ritter-Lang, it is 28K Euros plus 4K for additional levels. That includes all the hospital stay, hotel stay before and after (including a 5-star hotel during recuperation), and full brunches before and after hospital stay. And that is for you and a companion. We even provide hotel for your companion while you are in the hospital. The only cost to add to this is airfare and evening meals when not in the hospital. We do not rush people out of the hospital either like in many countries. 4-6 days in the hospital is common at Enande...if needed. Hope this helps. You can get more information and a complimentary consultation at www.enande.com/evaluation-form.html

  • @leelunk8235
    @leelunk8235 6 років тому +5

    DONT FUSE...ADR IS MUCH BETTER

  • @tinacollins9213
    @tinacollins9213 4 роки тому +1

    My disc burst backwards severed my nerves to my bladder and bowel I can’t hold both ends

  • @impeccablebeats0448
    @impeccablebeats0448 4 роки тому

    Is it possible to do ADR if my cental spinal cord compression is caused by spondylosis bone spurs (and not by disc bulge)? I have severe spinal cord compression at C4-5, C5-6- and C6-7. I would really like to avoid adjacent segment degeneration that can be brought on by fusion. But can prominent bone spurs in the spinal cord region be removed too during disc removal?

    • @cheekypiper512
      @cheekypiper512 3 роки тому

      Yes it can. I read this on Dr.Bertagloni's website. I think it would be a regular part of surgery.

    • @lushakui5380
      @lushakui5380 3 роки тому

      Look up dr mandell on youtube. There are ways of naturally eliminating bone spurs.

  • @JohnnyRebKy
    @JohnnyRebKy 6 років тому +3

    I became disabled after my spinal lumbar fusion at only 27 years old. I am 34 now and still on disability and just discovered I now have a severe herniation at T10-11 thoracic spine with severe stenosis. It’s so bad I actually have a visual bulge in my back that’s hard as a rock like a baseball is under my skin. Extremely painful and doesn’t respond to steroids or muscle relaxants. I am TERRIFIED of being operated on from the front side! I have to drive 3 hours away because no surgeons in my area even attempt thoracic spine surgery which really scares me. I feel like if I was offered disk replacement I wouldn’t be where I am today. Now that I have Fusion I keep herniating disks above the Fusion. I’ve had a ruptured disk at L3-4 above my Fusion for 3 years and now this T10 rupture. I’ve managed the lumbar herniation ok but this T10 rupture has really put me down. What really makes things worse is doctors think you have all the time in the world to live with this. When your spine is half cut off by a herniation I don’t understand why it’s safe to let patients live with it for months!! I can’t see half of my spine in the MRI image because it’s covered up my the large herniation. Zero urgency to help me

    • @EnandeGmbH
      @EnandeGmbH  6 років тому

      Hello Johnny. We are s sorry to hear of your situation. You must be in terrible pain. Please let us know if you would like an evaluation by our surgeons so see what they recommend. Thank you for watching the video. We hope you found it helpful.

    • @JohnnyRebKy
      @JohnnyRebKy 6 років тому

      Thank you. However I live in Kentucky and theres no way I could travel there. Im trying to find a doctor in Nashville Tennessee who does these artificial disk replacements. Is there a doctor in the Nashville area you could recommend??? There are many top notch spine doctors in Nashville however looking at websites its hard to figure out who does artificial disk replacements

    • @speedoflite1
      @speedoflite1 6 років тому +1

      Feel for ya! I know what it's like to suffer cervical and lower lumbar problems: "severe degeneration" and "severe spinal and foraminal stenosis" and failed back surgery; pain pills, dealing with pharmacies, insurance companies and the medical profession. Currently recovering from cervical surgery on 12/14/2018. How are you currently?

    • @sartainja
      @sartainja 5 років тому

      I feel for you. I have a T10-11 herniation. I can control mine with steroids, ice and drugs. G-d bless you on your search for relief.

    • @Garahan
      @Garahan 4 роки тому +1

      Hope you find a solution!🙏

  • @johnpaulspeedsktr
    @johnpaulspeedsktr 6 років тому +2

    Does enande perform m6 replacement with up to 3mm spondylolisthesis as the mfr suggests is possible?

    • @EnandeGmbH
      @EnandeGmbH  6 років тому

      Hello Jean. Any surgical recommendation would depend on a great many variables. There may be circumstances where this is appropriate and others where it would not be. The best thing would be so submit your films so the surgical team can give you a personal recommendation based on your precise circumstances. Enande.com/evaluation-form.html

  • @jessenurse9194
    @jessenurse9194 5 років тому +1

    Why can’t a disk be replaced with one from an organ donor

  • @kimseymour8896
    @kimseymour8896 2 роки тому

    Do any of you guys have a Mobi-C vertical disc and what do you think of it?

  • @Innovativemediaandproductdesig
    @Innovativemediaandproductdesig 10 місяців тому

    33:55

  • @marilynjrowley8633
    @marilynjrowley8633 Рік тому

    I was injured in a car accident in 1995. I had 5 back surgeries following. On the 5th surgery the neurosurgeon scalpel slipped and he cut my spinal cord. I've continued to live disabled since a year ago. I started falling often all last winter. The three bones above L4 have collapsed. I have had lots of tests MRI and nukemed MRI. I was just told there wasn't anything that could be done.

  • @jamesbacon6968
    @jamesbacon6968 4 роки тому +2

    The M6 disc has so many issues. So many broke. You can learn more at: doctorpabloclavel.wordpress.com/

  • @antoniovillanueva9589
    @antoniovillanueva9589 6 років тому

    podrían traducirlo Al español por favor!

  • @brianl7048
    @brianl7048 3 роки тому +1

    Got it when I was 18, I’m 26 now it ruined me

    • @elizabethgilge848
      @elizabethgilge848 3 роки тому

      What do you mean?

    • @KingAeetes
      @KingAeetes 2 роки тому

      @@elizabethgilge848 What part of 'ruined' don't you understand?

    • @tiosav
      @tiosav Рік тому

      Did you have a growth spurt?

    • @Redpillbluepilleatboth
      @Redpillbluepilleatboth Рік тому

      Tell your story please🙏

    • @Stoneylfm
      @Stoneylfm 7 місяців тому +1

      I understand what he meant. I had it done in 2015. C 456. It’s ruined my life. Pain every day. The days that’s not too bad. I usually over due it cuz I’m so far behind. Right now I’m watching yall laying on a heating pad because of the pressure in my head. Sick of it. I want my life back. I want to garden again! Went to many drs. Have stenosis and degenerative disk. Lots of needles in my neck. I hear all your stories and I’m glad yall got relief but it’s not happening for me

  • @tinacollins9213
    @tinacollins9213 4 роки тому

    L5S1 disc

  • @cvzanikos1
    @cvzanikos1 3 роки тому

    Hey guys. Will a three level disc replacement reverse cervical kyphosis? Did anybody have that problem and it was resolved?

    • @Raiseyourvoiceadvocates
      @Raiseyourvoiceadvocates 2 роки тому

      No!! If you have kyphosis you are actually not a candidate for artificial disc replacement.

  • @kingloz36
    @kingloz36 Рік тому

    Wait, people with an M6-L disc replacement can no longer go into hyperflexion? Fuck that imagine doing all the surgery to end up not being able to pick a pen off of the ground or do a roly poly with your kida

    • @stevew2061
      @stevew2061 9 місяців тому

      Where did you get that from??

  • @diegomadera9700
    @diegomadera9700 6 місяців тому +1

    Cherry picked people, all of which were in desperate shape & ended up with glaringly positive results, picked to promote the surgery & pander to a pioneer of the procedure, pure propaganda. You could chose all people with bad results & push the opposite conclusion. The fact that you didn't include anyone with a negative experience says everything about the purpose of this video.

  • @lindareistad
    @lindareistad Рік тому

    ANYONE WITH PALSY? C5 PALSY MYSELF