I remember the first time travelling on those Class 450s was back 15 years ago and they were great because they were very punctual and reliable trains and very comfortable to travel on. They helped South West Trains's service reliability shoot up high once again. Nice Video mate!
More familiar with this EMU's more modern siblings - 700s, 707s etc. - but i had the pleasure of riding one of these last summer out to Feltham from Waterloo. Loved that train journey just because it was a new route to me but the train itself was also very fast, comfortable (air conditioning and working sockets were appreciated too)... yeah, real good. The Desiros across the board are really good units based on my experience. Kind of like the way these bug-eyed 2000s models look too, they're cute kinda.
That Is The Siemens Commuter Desire (Powerless) In Live Rail (The English & Celtic Railway’s Classed As: “450” By The British Railway Company Like The Intercity Desire (Which Has Been Classed As: “444”), There Also Needs A Sleeper & Sideboard (Catering) Carriages It Can Also Come With A Catenary Carriage, Except It Has No Pantograph A Catenary Carriage Or A Live Rail Train Can Also Be Available Either: Alternating Or Directing Currents, Or Even A Voltage Combination (VC = AC/DC) Voltage Combine Variant (Classed As: “350/1”) Both Of The Train Desire Feature Traction Automatics, Not Motors Motors = Steam, Diesel Or Petrol
These units are interesting. They have alot of power in their motors, but lack acceleration likely due to the insane amount of bulk they have..I.e a class 450 unit is around 170 tonnes compared to a 455 which is around 130 tonnes per unit I feel as though they could potentially be the fastest accelerating DC unit of the 2000s, if they were around a similar weight as a class 455, Or to compare to a more modern unit.. a class 707, which is arguably alot lighter per each of its carriages when compared to older EMUs like the 450.
They run on the lines towards feltham and ashford. They also do semi fast services going to Richmond. But they are more of an outer suburban train sadly. And also the acceleration rate of stopping and starting isnt the best, but to be fair..the 455s arent the best accelerators too. If their motors werent so old, it may have been a different story for the 455s though. That's probably why they use 707s for metro routes. Because their acceleration rate is crazy for a DC unit.
I used to live in Richmond and these were very common to see and it was amazing to, my rarest spot there was a double class 444 (diverted) and a triple class 450 which wasn’t diverted! It was amazing watching the triple class 450 at richmond
Can someone explain why they used to go " Weee wee wee wee wee wee!!!" straight away back in the day but now they get to about thirty mph before the sirens raise in pitch. Anyone care to explain?
They accelerated very fast back then but a result of this was they drew way too much power from the 3rd rail. The software had to be updated to reduce power load and therefore reduce acceleration. I’m assuming they also changed the VF drive programming slightly as well so they change sound at 30mph.
The Class 350/1 operates on both AC Overhead Lines and 3rd Rail because they're Dual Voltage which they have a Pantograph and Shoegear or Collector Shoe.
Good trains but hate the layout of the seats and no tables theses are not built for long distance services like Weymouth I bet SWR are not popular around there
I remember the first time travelling on those Class 450s was back 15 years ago and they were great because they were very punctual and reliable trains and very comfortable to travel on. They helped South West Trains's service reliability shoot up high once again. Nice Video mate!
one of if not the best train livery... *ever!*
I personally really like the traction motor sound on the 450s (great vid btw)
The 159 or 8 is better
@@itsspeedy__ They're diesels, which sound nice roaring out of stations but the Desiros under DC sound like spaceships
what a cute train! two big eyes!
(Headlights)
450 is a 350 with 444 motor, that's why they were called 450s
Oh
@@thenibblershow5305 But if a 444 was equipped with a 350 motor, it will be called a 344
This is the 1 reason why I miss living in the south west 😢 😂
The 450s always make 12 coaches long wow. Sometimes they use with the 444s to make 9 coaches combos most likely Weymouth.
450 is shortrer than 444
SWR do seem to be a lot more erratic when it comes to unit placement
@@levichalcraft8702 indeed
Congrats on 6K!!!
Thank you!!
My childhood trains.
More familiar with this EMU's more modern siblings - 700s, 707s etc. - but i had the pleasure of riding one of these last summer out to Feltham from Waterloo. Loved that train journey just because it was a new route to me but the train itself was also very fast, comfortable (air conditioning and working sockets were appreciated too)... yeah, real good. The Desiros across the board are really good units based on my experience. Kind of like the way these bug-eyed 2000s models look too, they're cute kinda.
That Is The Siemens Commuter Desire (Powerless) In Live Rail (The English & Celtic Railway’s
Classed As: “450” By The British Railway Company
Like The Intercity Desire (Which Has Been Classed As: “444”), There Also Needs A Sleeper & Sideboard (Catering) Carriages
It Can Also Come With A Catenary Carriage, Except It Has No Pantograph
A Catenary Carriage Or A Live Rail Train Can Also Be Available Either: Alternating Or Directing Currents, Or Even A Voltage Combination (VC = AC/DC)
Voltage Combine Variant (Classed As: “350/1”)
Both Of The Train Desire Feature Traction Automatics, Not Motors
Motors = Steam, Diesel Or Petrol
Lovely video mate!
I get 707s instead off 458 or 450 well rarely
These units are interesting. They have alot of power in their motors, but lack acceleration likely due to the insane amount of bulk they have..I.e a class 450 unit is around 170 tonnes compared to a 455 which is around 130 tonnes per unit
I feel as though they could potentially be the fastest accelerating DC unit of the 2000s, if they were around a similar weight as a class 455, Or to compare to a more modern unit.. a class 707, which is arguably alot lighter per each of its carriages when compared to older EMUs like the 450.
They used to accelerate a lot faster, but they were drawing too much power from the 3rd rail so the software had to be updated to reduce acceleration.
These train rarely run in west london now and I miss them :( dont know their exact timetable
They run on the lines towards feltham and ashford. They also do semi fast services going to Richmond. But they are more of an outer suburban train sadly. And also the acceleration rate of stopping and starting isnt the best, but to be fair..the 455s arent the best accelerators too. If their motors werent so old, it may have been a different story for the 455s though. That's probably why they use 707s for metro routes. Because their acceleration rate is crazy for a DC unit.
I used to live in Richmond and these were very common to see and it was amazing to, my rarest spot there was a double class 444 (diverted) and a triple class 450 which wasn’t diverted! It was amazing watching the triple class 450 at richmond
You'll find a lot of these (half unfortunately in the new livery) at Waterloo Station either going to Portsmouth or Alton :)
Class 450 trains are even better than the Class 377 and 387 trains.
Can someone explain why they used to go " Weee wee wee wee wee wee!!!" straight away back in the day but now they get to about thirty mph before the sirens raise in pitch. Anyone care to explain?
They accelerated very fast back then but a result of this was they drew way too much power from the 3rd rail. The software had to be updated to reduce power load and therefore reduce acceleration. I’m assuming they also changed the VF drive programming slightly as well so they change sound at 30mph.
nice
What’s the difference between 450 & 350? They look the same
not a great deal, the 350/1 were originally intended to by 450s (hence the shoes)
Class 350+class 444= class 450
My favourite train
Same here!
Yup, the livery too!
Great minds think alike hehe!
i love police sirens
if ya know ya know
Great video
Looks like southwest air
Nice trains the 450’s like the 350’s but with a third rail system
The Class 350/1 operates on both AC Overhead Lines and 3rd Rail because they're Dual Voltage which they have a Pantograph and Shoegear or Collector Shoe.
@@BVEfan 350 is like an older brother to 450
And the 185 DMU desiro is like the father
Good trains but hate the layout of the seats and no tables theses are not built for long distance services like Weymouth
I bet SWR are not popular around there
went on one 2 days ago and when i returned all the seats had a table so im assuming it depends on luck
@@lucinum9012 444s have tables 450s do not
@@levichalcraft8702 they do on first class
Great video