God, coincidence hits so hard sometimes. I just decided to start rewatching Neon Genesis today for the first time in over 10 years. Jump on UA-cam after I watched the first episode, see a new faction rumble's up, and here's a new player I haven't seen before called Shinji. Tzeentch's plans are certainly inscrutable.
At the height of Saint Johannus festival, the Imperial Saint venerated in the sector, Genestealer cult decided to join the celebration. Their understanding of "Glorifying the Emperor", however, was different from the rest citizens of the planet, as their Emperor had, naturally, four hands, while his Angels had limbs aplenty and a ravenous appetite. Angered by this sacrelege, Space Marines moved in to decimate the aliens who dared to taint the sacred soil of Imperium with their presence, and while the head of Apotecarium lead his Battle-Brothers to root out the pestilence of Genestealer Cults, two other heroes took it upon them to lead the bulk of forces. Bemused by the ensued chaos, the forces which represent it best made their move as well. The smell of vanquished hope driven Plague Champion to a state of frantic activity from across the Immaterium, for he knew too well that if he would not harvest the great bounty of despair, or, better yet, plant the seeds that would bore ever more, he would not forgive himself. His old ally, a sorcerer of no small renown, had cultists all across the sector, and was obliged a boon to the warrior of Nurgle, so without remorse, the numerous cultists were sacrificed in order to pave the way for the Chaos Marines. Which will be the celebrant in this feast of folly?
I feel like I gotta point out that the reason tffa's have all this spam is not necessarily because they are the best choice in the format, but more that it is the best place for them to actually work. best place for any weird build to work really. don't forget how good the orgyn spam did. melee ravener spam has done well, I have seen stickbomma spam do amazing, hell even operatives can be ridiculous. plainly stated, this is no environment to be making any judgement on balance is what I'm saying
Space Marines needed a librarian maybe.... The knock back against that of bugs would have been beautiful. Nthank you once again for the cast Indrid. Comments for the comment throne!!!!
The Chaos Termie squad getting doubled by the Lictor and Force Commander was hilarious. That and the "lore" of this match is pretty much just that Chaos and SM dropped the soap; Tyranids didn't
The space marines fucked up which is how it got so bad, everyone decided to bully chaos even though they were always last on points which let the nids just turtle and rush their stack
They need number to be effective so probably not. But I do think the Fex need to at least be a bit more expensive or have higher population cost. Also I am a strong opponent of giving them Deathspitter in the first place for exactly this reason. It's already hard enough to deal with the old Tyrannid range blob
@@TimurKOI Wait, so Terminators can only ever be called in using the red resource? That's so weird when the elite squads from other factions can be spawned at the base using normal resources.
It's 2023 and I can't believe we still have people who break the first rule of using a Terminator - never teleport forward a Terminator (but well arguably, they've already doom since getting a claw I think) You know what could be really effective against this blob? Spamming Assault Marines and Raptors probably, doesn't matter if you can't hurt vehicle all that much, just jump them and prevent their weapon from firing
That was a game over for them, as tyranids did dominate the game already and chaos was off the picture. Did not matter what they would do, these two blobs of death were nigh invincible after amassing so much firepower. If SM and CSM had the same quality units fielded, there could be an argument on taking claws or not, teleporting forward or not, but the spirit of other teams was pretty much broken it seemed, so as a last hoorah - why not?
Havent watched DoW in a long time... But its good to see Tyranids are still the steamroll faction they've always been in team games. What can you expect with the do-it-all stranglethorn carnifexes.
I'm happy that it exists, but I'm not too interested in the eternal mod. Elite enhances DoW2 while eternal tries to make the game more like DoW1, and the dev admitted it won't be focused on balance. I hear they're working on some new units though - if they're decent it might be cool if a few made it into Elite (the dev teams are quite close apparently).
@@rosstee If the Eternal mod developers ever focus on making a whole new race, that would be amazing. And then the Elite developers could port it into Elite with a bunch of balance changes.
"what can men do against such reckless hate?". No seriously, once you reach this point of critical mass, there's nothing you can do about it with a fun generalist build. That's why I kick Zzeraf from my games.
Most games Tyranids win they win by spamming Carnifexes, but it's the SM fast capping they want to change...? Buff their other units, cap Carnifexes. Single entities have a massive advantage over other types of units in that they do not lose firepower as they lose HP. Basing a whole army on single entity units arguably is abusing that advantage.
no they don't and the only reason it can work as well here is cause it's tffa. even in a tffa scenario it's not unbeatable even by a long shot, in another game I did the same and my opponent got tanks and kept them in maximum range and he was fine. getting counters is kind of a big deal
Carnies with upgrades are expensive AF. More expensive than most of the super units. They justify their cost, if you can safe these slow walking and unrepairable dudes, of course
@@TimurKOI based on this game? This is as far from a competitive environment as any. I could start raving about apothecary and land raider being too strong in team games but that wouldn’t get us anywhere, cause it is after all a 1v1 mod
@@mad_prophet termies, on the other hand, don't justify their cost, especially you must earn enough red resource to call them. I haven't seen more than two terminator squads one player hired. I agree that tyranid player had a risk to rush T3. But, in other case, if SM player rushed , could it be the same result with terminators. Of course not.
God, coincidence hits so hard sometimes. I just decided to start rewatching Neon Genesis today for the first time in over 10 years. Jump on UA-cam after I watched the first episode, see a new faction rumble's up, and here's a new player I haven't seen before called Shinji. Tzeentch's plans are certainly inscrutable.
At the height of Saint Johannus festival, the Imperial Saint venerated in the sector, Genestealer cult decided to join the celebration. Their understanding of "Glorifying the Emperor", however, was different from the rest citizens of the planet, as their Emperor had, naturally, four hands, while his Angels had limbs aplenty and a ravenous appetite. Angered by this sacrelege, Space Marines moved in to decimate the aliens who dared to taint the sacred soil of Imperium with their presence, and while the head of Apotecarium lead his Battle-Brothers to root out the pestilence of Genestealer Cults, two other heroes took it upon them to lead the bulk of forces. Bemused by the ensued chaos, the forces which represent it best made their move as well. The smell of vanquished hope driven Plague Champion to a state of frantic activity from across the Immaterium, for he knew too well that if he would not harvest the great bounty of despair, or, better yet, plant the seeds that would bore ever more, he would not forgive himself. His old ally, a sorcerer of no small renown, had cultists all across the sector, and was obliged a boon to the warrior of Nurgle, so without remorse, the numerous cultists were sacrificed in order to pave the way for the Chaos Marines. Which will be the celebrant in this feast of folly?
Absolute ace. It's stories like these that accompany these videos that really makes you feel invested in the match
@@jasonarnoldpepito4220 thank you, kind sir. Very pleased that you are pleased.
I feel like I gotta point out that the reason tffa's have all this spam is not necessarily because they are the best choice in the format, but more that it is the best place for them to actually work. best place for any weird build to work really. don't forget how good the orgyn spam did. melee ravener spam has done well, I have seen stickbomma spam do amazing, hell even operatives can be ridiculous. plainly stated, this is no environment to be making any judgement on balance is what I'm saying
*This* is the vengeance for *every* hormagaunt brood wiped with plasma cannon shots, catachan explosives, grenades and empyrean abysses
Chaos dread shooting half his missiles into walls and envoirnment is part of the great plan trust me.
Space Marines needed a librarian maybe.... The knock back against that of bugs would have been beautiful.
Nthank you once again for the cast Indrid.
Comments for the comment throne!!!!
I haven't seen a librarian in these casts in bloody ages.
The Chaos Termie squad getting doubled by the Lictor and Force Commander was hilarious. That and the "lore" of this match is pretty much just that Chaos and SM dropped the soap; Tyranids didn't
blood angels
chaos (demons only)
tyranids
2v2v2
devastation of baal here we come!
Personally I think there should be a cap of most types of units.
Of course! Also, I think, it should be fair, that termies can be hired in the main building as nobs and carnifexes. Or make them all calling units.
The space marines fucked up which is how it got so bad, everyone decided to bully chaos even though they were always last on points which let the nids just turtle and rush their stack
They need number to be effective so probably not. But I do think the Fex need to at least be a bit more expensive or have higher population cost.
Also I am a strong opponent of giving them Deathspitter in the first place for exactly this reason. It's already hard enough to deal with the old Tyrannid range blob
@@TimurKOI Wait, so Terminators can only ever be called in using the red resource? That's so weird when the elite squads from other factions can be spawned at the base using normal resources.
@@k-leb4671 yeah, that's what I am talking about.
It's 2023 and I can't believe we still have people who break the first rule of using a Terminator - never teleport forward a Terminator (but well arguably, they've already doom since getting a claw I think)
You know what could be really effective against this blob? Spamming Assault Marines and Raptors probably, doesn't matter if you can't hurt vehicle all that much, just jump them and prevent their weapon from firing
just spam blastmaster/pdevs and have something watch over them against LA
@@seraffares8009 tanks too I feel would have been good against both our armies, but at maximum range
That was a game over for them, as tyranids did dominate the game already and chaos was off the picture. Did not matter what they would do, these two blobs of death were nigh invincible after amassing so much firepower. If SM and CSM had the same quality units fielded, there could be an argument on taking claws or not, teleporting forward or not, but the spirit of other teams was pretty much broken it seemed, so as a last hoorah - why not?
I think a lot varian would have went a long way for helping
@@seraffares8009 They have 5 Fex with Strangle Thorn, you aren't going to win over that with any infantry
Havent watched DoW in a long time... But its good to see Tyranids are still the steamroll faction they've always been in team games. What can you expect with the do-it-all stranglethorn carnifexes.
ive never seen an execution move either from or against the swarm lord. shame.
Man, I hope they don't remove the Tac squad fast cap. It makes up for them walking everywhere.
I think there's more sense in giving this ability to other faction's units, then removing it from tacs
That tac marine change should NOT go through.
I love meme builds...
Hey indrid, will we see a replay for the new dow2 mod eternal? looks cool, 3 of the factions are ready
I'm happy that it exists, but I'm not too interested in the eternal mod. Elite enhances DoW2 while eternal tries to make the game more like DoW1, and the dev admitted it won't be focused on balance. I hear they're working on some new units though - if they're decent it might be cool if a few made it into Elite (the dev teams are quite close apparently).
@@rosstee sure, but could be cool for Indrid to shine a light on a new mod, even if it is not balanced
@@rosstee If the Eternal mod developers ever focus on making a whole new race, that would be amazing. And then the Elite developers could port it into Elite with a bunch of balance changes.
@@k-leb4671 Yeah I'd love to see Necrons, Dark Eldar or something, would be great.
"what can men do against such reckless hate?". No seriously, once you reach this point of critical mass, there's nothing you can do about it with a fun generalist build. That's why I kick Zzeraf from my games.
Boring, spam Carnifex win... ty for the games tho
Most games Tyranids win they win by spamming Carnifexes, but it's the SM fast capping they want to change...? Buff their other units, cap Carnifexes. Single entities have a massive advantage over other types of units in that they do not lose firepower as they lose HP. Basing a whole army on single entity units arguably is abusing that advantage.
no they don't and the only reason it can work as well here is cause it's tffa. even in a tffa scenario it's not unbeatable even by a long shot, in another game I did the same and my opponent got tanks and kept them in maximum range and he was fine. getting counters is kind of a big deal
I think there must be cap for such units as carnifexes, nobs etc. Or terminators can be hired in main building without cap. It would be fair.
Carnies with upgrades are expensive AF. More expensive than most of the super units. They justify their cost, if you can safe these slow walking and unrepairable dudes, of course
@@TimurKOI based on this game? This is as far from a competitive environment as any. I could start raving about apothecary and land raider being too strong in team games but that wouldn’t get us anywhere, cause it is after all a 1v1 mod
@@mad_prophet termies, on the other hand, don't justify their cost, especially you must earn enough red resource to call them. I haven't seen more than two terminator squads one player hired.
I agree that tyranid player had a risk to rush T3. But, in other case, if SM player rushed , could it be the same result with terminators. Of course not.
Lame tyranid army comp. I wouldn’t even bother sending that in super boring game 🥱😒
noobs spamers :(
Probably gonna stop watching the 2v2v2’s if they’re just gonna be full of cheese/spam builds every time…