I feel like the Vikings have never been a Super Bowl or bust team for the last decade or so. They were never a real contender, never a team like the Ravens, 49ers, Bills, that all seem so close. I feel like the closest they came to the SB was with Case Keenum during that Minnesota Miracle catch, and even that team was never going to win the SB. I think a difference maker QB may have likely taken them further, but how many "difference" makers are there? Maybe 5 or 6 in the whole league.
In jamaica we have a saying jump out of frying pan ,jump in the fire ,meaning he ran from the vikings because of them drafting a qb an ran right into it in atlanta 😂😂😂
As a Vikings fan, I am so glad someone else paid him that ridiculous wage. The Vikings need a young QB they can live and grow with for the next 15 years. I really hope JJ is that QB
Matt Ryan was better then Kirk by a lot. Matt won playoff games and MVP. Julio was hurt a lot also . And Matt was putting up numbers wel before Shanahan was with the Falcons he did numbers with Mike Smith. And Matt also more years then not had top 5 most pressured or sacked qb. Matt deserve a gold jacket Kirk not there .
So if you were in same position. Had a great agent who got u bucks would u turn it down ???? No. So quit the hate for him getting the big payday. And as much as I am pissed he left us, HE DESERVED BETTER than what was done to him!
Kirk is a top 8 QB in the league imo, and he’s light years ahead of baker mayfield. Kirk can easily take a team to the super bowl if he has a decent defense
Yeah Poalo Banchero and Devin Booker can be on that list too. The great thing is that we’re done with LeBron, Harden, KD, and some of the others who didn’t carry the mantle well. Gonna miss Steph Curry but it’s over for him too.
Kirk can’t have his cake and eat it too. He’s broke the bank in terms of salary for the QB market. He’s coming off a critical injury and hasn’t proved he can carry a team deep in the playoffs. He should be happy he got paid as much as he did. So what the falcons are just thinking about their future. For him it’s play well and don’t get injured.
Kirk Cousins didn’t feel disrespected because of Aaron Rodgers, that was just another idiotic way Colin could cream in his pants talking about Rodgers.
As a Celtics fan I love Tatum. But right now, give me Derek f’n White. If we got him healthy with Brown and Jrue, we are going to the finals with or without Tatum
There is some bs in the air cause kirk was interviewed a few months ago, wanted to retire a viking and as long structure right - " this is a business and once I get desired contract they ( vikings) can draft whomever they want. That's a direct quote . Kirk gets better every year at age 35 .The injury can possibly muddy the water but if he comes back 100% he can absolutely win a super bowl. That's silly talk. The falcons did right by kirk and kirk touring Atlanta saying he's planning on signing extension after 2 more years and the falcons go and take a guy who they watched for 40 minutes??? A guy who has 10.5 inch hands and can throw a ball 2 stadiums but when pressured or some touch is required , he looks like a watered down version of Jameson Winston. You're going to tell me that when latu, turner , verse or the premium dbs taken in 1st round aren't going to make a difference in 1st round of playoffs. Lockeroom going to be divided cause kirk has played for bad football teams in playoffs ( all +7 or higher dogs ) where he's played well and D giving up 30 pts a game. The only game he was favored , he played out his mind ( 88 qbr with jj only 4/47 and giants with 50% def pressure) and his high school defense made Daniel Jones look like a Montana ýoung hybrid. Hope cuz turns the undeserved narrative in year one. ...and it, lol, could happen early November on a different team.
He is the qb not the owner😂 why do these players act like they have a choice in what a team does. Just like Kirk is looking out for himself so is the falcons looking out for their future
Not only as a Falcons fan, but just a general fan that has common sense. This "report" seems over-exaggerated or just straight up bs. I think some of it was more job security. Just my opinion. Couple more points: 1) Kirk is underrated and overhated. He's statistically one of the top QBs year in and year out. He definitely can get us to the Superbowl. He is better than Baker. Although I think Baker is underrated and overhated as well. 2) Matt Ryan was a better overall QB. The Superbowl was mainly on Shanahan, which also screwed over the defense. He's top 10 statistically in multiple categories. Should be a HOFer eventually. 3) For fun: Ridder wasn't even the main problem last year. It was Smith's play calling and game management. It was abysmal. I'm sick of people ignoring that and just blaming the QBs.
Can't blame them they've been awful the last 5 years and are desperate for solid QB play which is why they made the moves they did. Not hard to understand at all
Of course everyone wants to win a SB. But you kinda need to be relevant first, maybe look good in your own division. Houston last year is a major outlier, most teams need to start building a bit after they've been down for a long time.
There is no spin on this being positive for the falcons. Even if Penix is great, they tied up 100 million in cousins and if they cut him anytime before the next 3 years they take on significant dead cap that inhibits them from building around Penix
@@tjayd1225 he will be 26 in 2 years not 27…if Kirk don’t win the big one but shows his consistency like always another team might bite if not he is 38…they will ask for contract restructure he say no we cut losses…do you really think Kirk gettting us to sb just because we draft a DE? Like genuinely
At least one of you has some respect for Kirk Cousins. His average season score is 524 in the "REAL GOAT" scoring system. Which btw is the most comprehensive analysis of a quarterbacks career ever created. Only 17 quarterbacks since 1947 have scored higher. The reasoning behind the scoring system is measuring how much better the quarterback is than the average quarterback of his era. All the quarterbacks ahead of him,except Ken Anderson, are in the Hall of Fame. He outscores many Hall of Famers. He gets paid because some very smart football people know how good he is. He has been able to accomplish this amazing career without a quality offensive line and for the most part without a defense. Those two are the quarterbacks best friends.
@@lukeoja7112 Teams win games and championships not quarterbacks or any other player. Football is the ultimate team game. Cousins average playoff game is better than Tom Brady's even though he was sacked 3 times as often for example. Marino's teams never won a championship but Trent Dilfer's did. I could go on and on.
@@bryanjones4444lmao please stop this nonsense! Brady has 7 rings. Kirk can’t even get out of divisional round. You Kirk Stans are embarrassing! Stop with the bullshit. Kirk had a top defense and couldn’t even make the playoffs.
@@saraxiong I am only stating facts. Which of those facts offend you? Football is the ultimate team game and the quarterback is the most important player but just one of 53. If you take a moment and break it down you come to realize that the quarterback only carries about 6 to 8 percent of the responsibility for winning and losing.
If Cousins is the bridge QB to get the team back on track, they didnt have to spend 180 million to do that. I think the Falcons are just talking out both sides of their mouths.
JJ will be the biggest bust in the draft he comes from a run first system witch he is a system quarterback to a team with wide receivers there were games JJ didn't pass the ball in the second half he has no star running back as and his 3rd down conversion rate was number 1 what was the average 3rd down distance 3 yards well Minnesota is screwed
Again, 400 million for one playoff win. Kirk has fleeced them all the way to the bank. 😂
The Vikings defense forced the Giants to pay Daniel Jones 😭😭
Kirk is stealing at this point.
Wins are not a qb stat. Football is the biggest team sport, so many factors go into winning.
@@jtsam1 and 4th and 8th check down way short of the sticks vs the Giants, what was that? Cousins is not a championship calibre QB.
I feel like the Vikings have never been a Super Bowl or bust team for the last decade or so. They were never a real contender, never a team like the Ravens, 49ers, Bills, that all seem so close. I feel like the closest they came to the SB was with Case Keenum during that Minnesota Miracle catch, and even that team was never going to win the SB. I think a difference maker QB may have likely taken them further, but how many "difference" makers are there? Maybe 5 or 6 in the whole league.
Colin’s take on Kirk was spot on … we at Carolina are praying 🙏🏿 for .500
Coming from a Vikings fan, that was a horrible take on Kirk and he is gonna dominate the NFC south
@@jrunna198 they said the same thing about Carr
In jamaica we have a saying jump out of frying pan ,jump in the fire ,meaning he ran from the vikings because of them drafting a qb an ran right into it in atlanta 😂😂😂
Baker got more playoff wins 😂
Stop it!!!!! Baker is not better then Kirk cousins
@@ATLfalcons808 I never said that lol & that’s worse for cousins people less talented got more playoffs wins
Ok……
Cousins doesn’t control what his defense can do which has always been bad. His stats in playoff games are actually pretty good.
I’d take baker over kirk 11x out of 10
As a Vikings fan, I am so glad someone else paid him that ridiculous wage. The Vikings need a young QB they can live and grow with for the next 15 years. I really hope JJ is that QB
Did that guy seriously say Bradford was never something?? WTF DOES HE WATCH
Finally someone mentioned Paolo!!!
Freak it. You got paid where ever your went. $$$
Really? Matt Ryan was good but he also had Julio Jones and Shanahan calling the plays lol. It wasnt just Matt Ryan there.
And Roddy white
Tony Gonzalez
Matt Ryan was better then Kirk by a lot. Matt won playoff games and MVP. Julio was hurt a lot also . And Matt was putting up numbers wel before Shanahan was with the Falcons he did numbers with Mike Smith. And Matt also more years then not had top 5 most pressured or sacked qb. Matt deserve a gold jacket Kirk not there .
He also had 3 different OC that went on to be Head Coaches (Shanahan, Mularki, Koetter)....Don't do that......SMH
@@aznchrissd1904 dude that was a couple years at the end of Tony career
The NBA is about to go into a second renaissance. The first was with Magic, Larry and Michael.
Now it’s AE, Wemby, Giannis, Tatum, Jokic, and Luka.
Damn it YALL got me agreeing with Colin. He actually made a lot of sense with our pick
Colin brings up such a huge point abt Kirk stabilizes you . That’s gotta be the rebuttal to when everyone asks why pay him that much
So if you were in same position. Had a great agent who got u bucks would u turn it down ???? No. So quit the hate for him getting the big payday. And as much as I am pissed he left us, HE DESERVED BETTER than what was done to him!
One day the Atlanta falcons will win multiple superbowls ❤️🖤🤍
Matt Ryan and the Falcons were in the SB 7 years ago (2016-17 season).
Colin's top 5 NBA players are all in the western conference. They'll continue to dominate the East for a long time.
Gee why do you think the Vikings drafted a QB??? Kirk runs hot and cold and the Vikings know that.
Never bed down with cousins. It's just common sense.
Don’t feel bad for someone who’s made like 300 million in his career with just one playoff win, Kirk is super overrated.
Kirk is a top 8 QB in the league imo, and he’s light years ahead of baker mayfield. Kirk can easily take a team to the super bowl if he has a decent defense
Bradford had a 99 QBR and threw for like 4000 yards in 2016. "NEVER GOOD AT ALL" ok cowherd sidekick
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
Baker’s ceiling is higher and I think even Colin would admit that. He’s been more inconsistent but also had to deal with a ton of garbage around him.
Matt Ryan 5 years ago?? More like 8 years ago
Yeah Poalo Banchero and Devin Booker can be on that list too.
The great thing is that we’re done with LeBron, Harden, KD, and some of the others who didn’t carry the mantle well. Gonna miss Steph Curry but it’s over for him too.
Cousins sure is a fool 😅
Just not with Kirk Cousins
If this is true, this is priceless. Atlanta drafted a qb before the Vikings did. Cousins choking on a Penix. 😂
Kirk can’t have his cake and eat it too. He’s broke the bank in terms of salary for the QB market. He’s coming off a critical injury and hasn’t proved he can carry a team deep in the playoffs. He should be happy he got paid as much as he did. So what the falcons are just thinking about their future. For him it’s play well and don’t get injured.
That's being nice saying he can win you a playoff game when he didn't for the Vikings lol.
Kirk Cousins didn’t feel disrespected because of Aaron Rodgers, that was just another idiotic way Colin could cream in his pants talking about Rodgers.
As a Celtics fan I love Tatum. But right now, give me Derek f’n White. If we got him healthy with Brown and Jrue, we are going to the finals with or without Tatum
There is some bs in the air cause kirk was interviewed a few months ago, wanted to retire a viking and as long structure right - " this is a business and once I get desired contract they ( vikings) can draft whomever they want. That's a direct quote .
Kirk gets better every year at age 35 .The injury can possibly muddy the water but if he comes back 100% he can absolutely win a super bowl. That's silly talk.
The falcons did right by kirk and kirk touring Atlanta saying he's planning on signing extension after 2 more years and the falcons go and take a guy who they watched for 40 minutes???
A guy who has 10.5 inch hands and can throw a ball 2 stadiums but when pressured or some touch is required , he looks like a watered down version of Jameson Winston.
You're going to tell me that when latu, turner , verse or the premium dbs taken in 1st round aren't going to make a difference in 1st round of playoffs.
Lockeroom going to be divided cause kirk has played for bad football teams in playoffs ( all +7 or higher dogs ) where he's played well and D giving up 30 pts a game.
The only game he was favored , he played out his mind ( 88 qbr with jj only 4/47 and giants with 50% def pressure) and his high school defense made Daniel Jones look like a Montana ýoung hybrid.
Hope cuz turns the undeserved narrative in year one.
...and it, lol, could happen early November on a different team.
Kirk gets slept on I mean last year he was good or better than anyone with no run game and a bad decision making coach and a sloppy defense
Kirk throws short of the sticks on 4th down in playoff games.. Stop coddling the guy.
Kirko Chainz needs to bully Penix
Nope he will train him up and be kind cause he's that way, then he will get dumped
Kirk Thugins
I think he knew they were drafting a QB, he just wanted a longer contract.
He is the qb not the owner😂 why do these players act like they have a choice in what a team does. Just like Kirk is looking out for himself so is the falcons looking out for their future
*so are the Falcons
Not only as a Falcons fan, but just a general fan that has common sense. This "report" seems over-exaggerated or just straight up bs. I think some of it was more job security. Just my opinion.
Couple more points: 1) Kirk is underrated and overhated. He's statistically one of the top QBs year in and year out. He definitely can get us to the Superbowl. He is better than Baker. Although I think Baker is underrated and overhated as well. 2) Matt Ryan was a better overall QB. The Superbowl was mainly on Shanahan, which also screwed over the defense. He's top 10 statistically in multiple categories. Should be a HOFer eventually. 3) For fun: Ridder wasn't even the main problem last year. It was Smith's play calling and game management. It was abysmal. I'm sick of people ignoring that and just blaming the QBs.
If this is true I lost alot of respect for kirk. Crab in a bucket mentality
Kirk going to be playing for that minimum wage in a year.
Falcons want to win a Super Bowl... Stop that stabilization mess.......
Can't blame them they've been awful the last 5 years and are desperate for solid QB play which is why they made the moves they did. Not hard to understand at all
You gotta be stable or lucky just to get to the Super Bowl.
@@kennethmorsee The Luck
Of course everyone wants to win a SB. But you kinda need to be relevant first, maybe look good in your own division. Houston last year is a major outlier, most teams need to start building a bit after they've been down for a long time.
Sure they do but it’s important to take the steps first . Wining the division is a first
There is no spin on this being positive for the falcons. Even if Penix is great, they tied up 100 million in cousins and if they cut him anytime before the next 3 years they take on significant dead cap that inhibits them from building around Penix
Total one time hit after Kirk's first year on his contract is about $21M. it's not that bad
Whos money is it? It's arthur blanks, so if it does work out so what
Yea but if he’s not good or get hurt. They don’t have to pay the new quarterback yet.
@@primetimemagic15factually untrue. In 2025 his dead cap is 65M, 2026 25M, 2027 it finally drops to 12M… and by then Penix is 27 turning 28
@@tjayd1225 he will be 26 in 2 years not 27…if Kirk don’t win the big one but shows his consistency like always another team might bite if not he is 38…they will ask for contract restructure he say no we cut losses…do you really think Kirk gettting us to sb just because we draft a DE? Like genuinely
Baker got all the hate Kirt got the paper baker better frfr
When we take the south this fool will be singing a different tune 😅
But the Falcons, because if he doesn't perform he gotta go......... He can whine and cry he got 400mil
😂😂😂
Dude has made so much money and has done nothing in the playoffs. He's a fraud.
You call that a fraud? He’s a marketing and financial genius! He’s a business genius, and I’d love to have him as a friend!
@@DeCurtaRican I'm talking about football not foosball
At least one of you has some respect for Kirk Cousins. His average season score is 524 in the "REAL GOAT" scoring system. Which btw is the most comprehensive analysis of a quarterbacks career ever created. Only 17 quarterbacks since 1947 have scored higher. The reasoning behind the scoring system is measuring how much better the quarterback is than the average quarterback of his era. All the quarterbacks ahead of him,except Ken Anderson, are in the Hall of Fame. He outscores many Hall of Famers. He gets paid because some very smart football people know how good he is. He has been able to accomplish this amazing career without a quality offensive line and for the most part without a defense. Those two are the quarterbacks best friends.
So.... How many playoff wins does he have?..... 😬
@@lukeoja7112 Teams win games and championships not quarterbacks or any other player. Football is the ultimate team game. Cousins average playoff game is better than Tom Brady's even though he was sacked 3 times as often for example. Marino's teams never won a championship but Trent Dilfer's did. I could go on and on.
@@bryanjones4444lmao please stop this nonsense! Brady has 7 rings. Kirk can’t even get out of divisional round. You Kirk Stans are embarrassing! Stop with the bullshit. Kirk had a top defense and couldn’t even make the playoffs.
@@saraxiong I am only stating facts. Which of those facts offend you? Football is the ultimate team game and the quarterback is the most important player but just one of 53. If you take a moment and break it down you come to realize that the quarterback only carries about 6 to 8 percent of the responsibility for winning and losing.
Mat Ryan was better he won a MVP also and made it to a super bowl
*Matt
@@Anthony-uf3oz thanks SH
Falcons boutta learn what happens when tie up a bunch of money in a guy who can’t win playoffs games as a long time vikes fan enjoy the pain lol
If Cousins is the bridge QB to get the team back on track, they didnt have to spend 180 million to do that. I think the Falcons are just talking out both sides of their mouths.
Carr is the best QB in the division
😂
JJ will be the biggest bust in the draft he comes from a run first system witch he is a system quarterback to a team with wide receivers there were games JJ didn't pass the ball in the second half he has no star running back as and his 3rd down conversion rate was number 1 what was the average 3rd down distance 3 yards well Minnesota is screwed
Lmao he’d still be better than Kirk. 🤣🤣
Penix isn't an NFL quarterback. ATL is looking at another decade of losing.