Hope you don't take this the wrong way DJ, but I've seen a couple of your vids where you're with your 'colleagues' and it seems to me that that they do nothing but deliberately create confrontation and antagonise to the detriment of your standing as one of the better Auditors. Best to disassociate yourself from these types before they drag you down.
@@ltrick3096 Do you not think that the very fact so many people take umbrage to a camera's presence is sufficient proof that it may not be lawful to ban photography but if somebody takes offence that is sufficient reason to stop filming? Wait till you are doing some innocent pastime like photography and are not breaking any law, but you get into trouble for it. Obviously I am nor wishing that upon you, but, it is a distinct possibility in a world where somebody else's feelings trump yours.
@@xenu-dark-tony I don’t need to go out filming people randomly I’m not a nonc e. How about these guys go “audit” ceos of corporate companies or the people in government not people at the bottom of the food chain tryna make a living for their family.
@@xenu-dark-tony i was in a safe house 7 years ago if I had come across DJ Audits in a mall or anywhere in the town he was visiting it could have caused untold damage and my life may have been in further danger
DJ unfortunately you are better on your own. Although I understand why you want to support these guys. You are all on the right side of the fight. But your direct, articulate knowledgeable, frank yet not rude demeanor is hard to achieve and not something that rest have.
There's a difference with cameras and filming kids putting them on the Internet. He is not a journalist he's a twat trying to cause problems with people
@@MrAndrewFarrow there is a difference they are not putting film all over the internet. If they did that you would not be happy would you. There are rules in place a venues to stop it going on the internet. Also there are signs saying camras in operation. So yes a big difference he is just a freak that wants to film and cause problems. End of
@@spudmurphy8860 I see no difference. Private places can restrict what you do ON their land. It’ll be a sad day when we restrict what you can do in public. When they started doing this a couple of years ago the standard response of every policeman was “papers please!”. Now, that’s al stopped. You still get people rushing up to the camera, saying filming is illegal. Thankfully, that is on the wane too. Some people even believe they have copyright over their face and building. A couple more years and that’ll stop too. The old chestnut about there might be children is old hat too. You CAN film children in public so long as it’s not obscene. Sky do it at football matches everyday.
As a Sheffield local it really annoyed me when you walked straight past the toilets near the start and shortly after said you hadn’t seen signs 😡 it’s like being out with the mrs! 😂
The police officers there were outstanding in their handling of the situation.....they didn't even raise their voices..... were helpful, gave clear instructions......and were very fair with all concerned!
Security guards are the worst ones I've seen loads these orditer videos the police should just tell them on the phone there's nothing we can do instead of wasting time and taxpayers money to come out and speak to these auditors But that is the whole idea of these orditers videos it's too show how stupid some people are the police , the security guards , etc
@@geoffwhite6383 because they are no longer police, They are merely policy enforcers for big corporations, if you are mugged, robbed, or your house is burgled they will show up if they feel like it, But if a company calls them they show up in minutes! and you will always be found to be in the wrong , no matter what the problem is, They will never take ypour side in any dispute, because they are in the pockets of the corporations.
@@geoffwhite6383, so what happens if these antagonisers don't leave, as soon as security lay a hand on them to get them off, they scream assault. All this is, they don't want to do a job, so let's annoy people.
DJ You're really not doing yourself any favours associating with these lads. You have your own polite and to the point style that is getting blemished by being with these idiots.
@@grantc8353 No I'm not referring to the auditing I'm referring simply from a public image and respect point of view of his subscribers. They're imbeciles and he shouldn't associate with them.
Why are they so transfixed with stopping you filming ...I think its because the security are worried that their universal credit claim might not go well. I know at least 18 families who refuse to use " shopping centres with security thugs " because they don't feel safe because of their thuggery , im sure shop owners want to bear that in mind
@@topcat1358 they don't have to tell you anything. People in general don't like being in other people's recording or even don't want their property being recorded.
@@topcat1358 it might be a ''just in case'' thing. for example if a video taken of a bunch of kids running around and it gets reported on some dirty nonce website that was taken in their premesis theyll get it in the neck. also regular members of the public putting complaints in about being filmed. you can garuntee that a small portion of the people in the background dont want to be filmed but wont dare say anything to the gang of lads doing it and would rather complain to management. its safer to just disallow filming alltogether. the risks outweigh the benefits
All of you should be in a civil claim for compensation from Meadowhall. They haven't learnt from multiple visits. They might learn from a large payout. Since not all of you were physically manhandled like Ryan was, the amounts will be different but since they abused your rights, made up rules on the fly, didn't follow the law or policy, called the police all based on the security manager's hatred of photographers the amounts should be between £500 for a simple unlawful trespass to £5000 for Ryan.
Yeah when Ryan was walking out at the end with cigarette in his mouth doing the gangster walk what a wally absolute waste of space wasting police time.
@@Awakend7 i grew up in northern Ireland 🇮🇪 our rights where trampled into the ground finally things changed here for the better. Those snowflakes haven't a clue they need to sign off the dole and do a days work.
@@Awakend7 how do you know what i earn guarantee one thing i earn more than you or them and contribute to my community in a dignified manner you said it aye they're scroungers.
I actually really agree with the message below from Duncan, it's like when your in a group or with others your a little more antagonistic, I love your videos because we really need to know our rights, and you show us professionally most the time.. it's just my opinion but when your alone it's so professional and informative. Keep up the great work 💯👍
They do for indictable offences and some others such as Criminal damage and theft offences that are either way offences but even if said offence is summary. Here the detained under the common law breach of the peace which in some circumstances can be done by security if someone is resisting when being physically removed from the land their in charge of. Assault and battery charges can also arise from this.
In this case they can, as authorised agents of the Centre management, revoke your implied right of access and instruct you to leave. If you refuse you are then trespassing. Trespass is a civil matter and in such cases Security staff (or any other authorised person appointed by the owner/occupier) can then use reasonable force to remove you from the property. if you resist such action you are then committing the criminal offence of aggravated trespass.
35:00 If you come back next time and the sign has been updated to ban cameras, then you have a stronger case against them as it would be acknowledgement that they fucked up. It would also be an indication that they act in a retaliatory way and not because it's a policy that is actually needed.
@@juliandavies1974 Which is not easy to find. It's not sign posted or given a link on the home page, so it's like the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy where the planning application for the destruction of the Earth was in the locked filing cabinet in the toilets in the basement behind a door that said "Beware of tigers".
@@juliandavies1974 Oh do give it a rest. If it is not on a sign which is on public display within the centre, "it's online" isn't going to get British Land very far if they are sued for one of their security staff assaulting a visitor, as happened in the case in Derbyshire.
@@juliandavies1974 Maybe so. But that does not get British Land off the hook in the legal sense. What you appear to be doing - and it is pretty obvious - is trying to excuse or justify the conduct of the security staff who are ill-disciplined and aggressive. I'm a retired cop, and to be honest, I have no time for aggressive security officers or those who try to act as apologists for them or try to justify their behaviour. As for your attempts to say British Land can, effectively, do as it likes, something tells me you need to learn what the law actually says and how it works in practice.
I've just been on their website, ans I can't find one word about filming in the Centre. There are rules, but not one that doesn't allow filming. The Police must get pissed off with security chimps throwing their weight about, then calling 999 when it all goes wrong and the REAL Police have to come and bail them out. They should tell the chimps, "YOU started it; YOU sort it out!".
@@juliandavies1974 A lot of shopping centre owners have no problems with auditors or those who do covert filming in their shopping centres as the footage often ends up on UA-cam which is accessible worldwide. The problem is with security staff who make up rules that do not exist and/or are little more than thugs in a uniform.
@@juliandavies1974 Unfortunately, when you have security staff who don't know the law - and really don't care what the law says - that is when things go horribly wrong. As for conditions of entry, I've just checked Meadowhall's website and they are nowhere to be seen. To be honest, it is difficult to stop people using smartphones to send pictures to others who are not at Meadowhall. A lot of people use smartphones to show what is on sale and to check whoever is on the other end of the phone that is what they want the person who is at Meadowhall to buy for them or enquire about. Most of the major supermarkets do not seem to have any problem with this. I suspect the "Conditions of Entry" you refer to have been made up by security staff. This was found going on at another shopping centre owned by British Land. When challenged, the shopping centre manager knew nothing about it and confirmed there was no condition of entry regarding filming.
Security that actually understands they can use reasonable force to remove civil trespassers, they can't arrest you for trespass but they can carry you out
That’s right. You hear some nonsense on here to the effect that s33 CJA72 allows you on to publicly accessible land ergo, no one can even touch you. No. LIMITED FORCE to escort you off. Reasonable force to get the job done. Definitions will be up to the jury post hoc.
@@MrAndrewFarrow It's reasonable force in England/Wales and the minimum required force in Scotland. 100's of bouncers will use it every single night and SIA training includes the use of reasonable force to remove trespassers. I think the difference between bouncers and other SIA is bouncers expect to use reasonable force (every night) while its rare for other security to have to do it. Normally asking people to leave will do the trick
@@jons9721 correct. Our bouncers were called on most nights. This guff you get on here that no one may touch a hair on your head whilst on their premises is bollox. Go down Leeds on a Friday night. They’re a LOT better than they used to be. SIA is working.
I would imagine 'reasonable; force against anyone refusing to leave and shouting their heads of is going to be anything that doesn't involve broken bones or serious cuts and bruises. If the trespasser actually starts using violence then its going to be any force until the now criminal is no longer a threat
@@andrewpickersgill1739 I DO NOT GET WHAT YOU MEAN. WHAT IS THE SENTANCE YOU WROTE SUPPOSED TO MEAN ? YOU HAVE WRITTEN IN GIBERISH IT DOES NOT MAK ANY SENSE AT ALLL. THERE IS A POLICE STATION ON ? IN ? WHERE ? YOU CANT SPELL MEADOWHALL SO ITS OBVIOUSLEY YOU WHO IS STUPID. NOT TO MENTION A DUMB ARSED KNOBHEAD
Love watching your videos DJ but when your with anyone else I think the best intentions become questionable. You hold yourself brilliantly throughout anything Iv seen from you but these other guys don’t really do you any favours. Il carry on watching your videos along with AB.
These Police are not interested in going after the so called ‘security’ & the one that put his hands on and the one that said Ryan was arrested. Impersonating a Police Officer is an offence isn’t it? Pls do let us know
I think DJ is always polite and explains well exactly why he is there and gives respect to people he speaks to. Sadly doesn't get it reciprocated. Appears some of the others he is with aren't always the same and quite often get slightly aggressive
I find it very interesting Meadowhall shopping centre appears to have such an extreme position on public photography whilst previously partnering the police/ state in a secret covert operation of facial recognition. Can anyone advise if the property owner has ever defended the extreme policy in a substantive manner?
Imagine how they would behave in a dark alleyway while someone is drunk and is not filming them. I know. I've witnessed police brutality on drunk public leaving pubs and clubs. It's disgraceful.
I took pictures of the Christmas decorations for years. Nobody ever said anything. People have become very uncomfortable with activities that previously nobody cared about. I work in retail if people want to take photographs that's ok with me.
That's fine but not everyone is like you. And shops are private property and if they have rules of no filming than that is their rule they have a right to make.
@@happyguy201 You are correct in that the shop units are private areas, but the public areas (known as common areas) are classed as public places whilst the shopping centre is open to the public. The security staff featured have, probably, done untold damage to the public image of Meadowhall Shopping Centre by their actions. The gobby one really does need start looking for another job as the assault and false imprisonment are enough to warrant Dismissal On the Grounds of Gross Misconduct under Employment Law. The female security officer who put her arms out to stop her gobby colleague from being pulled off Ryan needs to be told, in plain, clear language what she did was ill-advised as it could constitute being an accessory to a criminal offence. It is clear the SIA needs to become a regulator with teeth that bite and a bite that hurts.
Remember the words: "See something, Say something"? Yeah, welcome to the fallout. .. I can only imagine what the fallout is going to be for mask mandates, social distancing mandates, and now vaccine mandates! O_O
I'm sure that they wouldn't say anything; what these muppets aren't showing is the provocative way they are doing this, doing as much as they can to engage any of the staff/public worker in an argument.
@@plumfun6750 In their wet dreams. Such mandates are illegal under International Law which supersedes any domestic Boris & Co attempt to inflict on us.
I have changed my mind about different kinds of auditor....we need each and every single one of our auditors....they are well within rights to be annoyed by the bad policing And guards and getting angry at being abused and let down by public officials...it is not our auditors that have to change it is the police and all the security guards who don't know what the hell they are doing...these bad officials need to be held personally responsible for abusing public and we need more transparency and accountability 👏👏👏👏👏👏well done and thankyou ❤️ all of our auditors
The only people that had a problem with being videoed here are the security, no one complained and there are no rules posted about no cameras, so this security team are talking absolute crap!!! .
There is no legal requirement to have signage. Shopping Centres are private property to which the public have an implied right of access, that access being conditional on the compliance with the terms and conditions of the owner/occupier. Security staff are authorised agents of the owner/ occupier and if they say you cannot film or record on the property you must comply, failure will result in your implied right of access being revoked. The fact no member of the public complained is irrelevant.
@@Aidankiwi you are wrong everywhere when you have public access is a public place read the low better and its in all hole worls for 20 years so just wake up man 😂😂😂
Hi DJ Stick to doing your videos on your own. You are always polite and reasonable but with others there seems to be more confrontation. You have the best way of dealing with situations. Be best for your reputation.
What rubbish. Kept demanding the guys stop recording and in the pocket of the security guards, boasting about how one of them arrested and charged another auditor. And i still dont understand why the auditors had to give their names and addresses - what crime did they commit?
Nope these premises are owned by someone else, a private citizen that is entitled to have whatever rule for their customers they want whether it's verbal or written.
This happened to me once when Westfield in the Bush first opened, I was taking photos with a DSLRand told to leave, Hundreds of other people taking hundreds of photos with mobile phones , not approached, go figure????!!!🤔🤔🤔🥴🥴
I really love these kinds of videos because I'm in a wheelchair. Their website might say it's wheelchair-friendly, but it's not always true. These videos allow me to see the places, find what I'm after, etc.
Dead easy ; don’t go into these arenas of cheap consumerism and cathedrals of tat. Let’s start supporting the small traders and each other instead of lining the pockets of these greedy corporations.
Managed to drag myself through the rest of this video, just want to say security did a fantastic job dealing with this group of thugs. Professional throughout and put in a very difficult situation which they dealt with superbly. Well done!
The main purpose of Signs is to Communicate, to convey information designed to assist the receiver based on the information provided....Clear, Precise signage is Everything.
That was hard to watch, There were young kids around during the confrontations and although you remained polite the other guys were far to aggressive in my opinion.
SO SO RIGHT. the others are out to make trouble to boost there egos and get more knobheads watching there shit channels. D J is a class act in what he does and the way he tries to be respectful.
the police should not have a police station in a corporation shopping centre they do not work for them they work for the people there was no sign in the centre saying no cameras and telling you to go online for all the policies is stupid who checks online before going shopping at a publicly accessible area check out Ken Livingston and the police at Westfield
Don't police work for all public. Arents shops and shop workers inside the shopping centre not paying their taxes. Sure they will be happy to have a police station close by if some thing happens insude their shops.
@@happyguy201 if a shop is broken into they are there within minutes some one kicks your back door in they might turn up a week later thats the difference.
No they don't even take few minutes to come to shops either they are useless. Ask a shop owner what does police do and how long it takes for them to come to his shop emergency like if he was attacked he will say the same thing. My local newsagent got robbed by a knifeman about two months ago and the son Was out and his mum was in shop (husband dead) and there Was only one female customrer who tried helping but the guy too around £300 in cash and luckily no one was hurt but she is scared and terrified and so is he for his mum when alone in shop. They obviously called police they turned up nearly and hour later and took cctv but nothing happened yet no one arrested. I work at a shop even me if I get attacked at the shop where I work the police will not turn up on time despite them literally located next door to shopping centre they will turn up may the next day they are useless and ridiculous. They will turn up within minutes for politicians mate that's what you should say they will not turn up for us the public whether at our homes or shops.
The security are like brainwashed zombies. Good video. As for the security bloke trying to arrest someone. He must think he's a hero. A proper Walter Mitty. Police seem pretty cool.
Gotta say, that is an impressive shopping centre, all the units are filled and the place is buzzing with people. You would think that any recording would be seen in a positive light as it promotes the centre.
@@DJAUDITS Crazy times, it is not like you are sneaking about the place with hidden cameras, all your recordings are up front with great commentary, these security people really do need an education into the laws of the land, most of them are clueless when they wear the Hi-Vis vest of power.
@@davidclare7494 I genuinely think you are watching the wrong kind of videos then just my opinion. Walk around places where security guards do not know how far their powers go and have no knowledge of laws and bylaws. let them bullshit you just because they wear a uniform. The minute you step off a train at Meadowhall station or the bus station next door or pull into the carparks you are on film to when you enter the malls to when you leave you are on camera. but you do not want members of the public to use their cameras.
@@davidclare7494 IM 54 and see the whole country going down the shitter. cant do this cant do that no cctv no speed cameras just good honest hard working people in uniforms when we were growing up. now the uniformed are power crazy. even when they have no power.
Just started watching this and noticed you walked past what looked like a sign for the toilets on your left and shortly after said you had still not seen any signs for the toilets, lol. I will now continue to watch the full video.
As far as I'm aware, shopping centres are run by private companies and as such offer no right of way. And as with any private company, they can choose who they let onto their premises and the rules of conduct for said premises. The simple answer is, don't use horrible, tacky, consumer-bot shopping centres. Cheers.
There is a line in the code of conduct that Meadowhall publish on their website. Hidden away in the most inaccessible place and not easily found as it's not titled or signposted well. It took me a few minutes to find it as I searched all over the site for it. It says: To ensure the health and safety of our visitors the following are strictly prohibited: • Smoking on the malls. • Cycling, roller blading, micro scooters, segways, hover boards and skating on the malls. • Running, climbing or sitting on any escalator, balustrade, barrier, fence or railing. • Filming and photography, using tripod equipment. So as you didn't use any tripods you were ejected for reasons made up on the fly based purely on the personal opinions of the security.
It was easy to find : "Filming and photography is not permitted unless authorisation is granted by Centre Management in advance. The use of tripod equipment is not permitted." So not sure what you on about....they we're not permitted. And security did tell where to find this information. He refused to believe because the're is no sign....... well I saw no sign with the law on it ......so i can do what i want?......
@@laserr10000000 Who goes to the bottom of a web page to look for some legal mumbo jumbo. A professional photographer would do so and would even check with the management without looking for the T&Cs - because thats what they do. But a hobby photographer or a tourist/visitor wouldn't because they'd have the belief that photography is not some sort of thing that only terrorists and criminals perform (which is what security think). So a visitor admiring something in the centre, or just taking pictures of something of interest to show to someone else such as a nice product to buy wouldn't check the T&Cs. To have any weight a policy needs to be shoved in the faces of people entering, not hidden away at the bottom of a webpage that hardly anyone visits. It can't be enforced willy nilly when security see something as it could be seen as just the opinion of the security based on nothingness. T&Cs for shopping centres are pointless since people just carry on doing what they do outside of it, and they don't do what they don't do outside of it. The T&Cs basically repeat legal stuff like no smoking or repeat known social conventions like no skateboarding. Having policies like shoes & shirts must be worn (yes I have read it) is fucking stupid and unenforceable on a hot day.
Unless it's discriminatory you can't force your interpretation of the rules onto a land owner or agent of a landowner mad lad. You're frequently wrong in your interpretation of the law.
@TheSadButMadLad No the law is the law. You can't impose yourself on private land once told by the owner or agent of the land owner (security) that you have to leave. Common law power of ejection to use force is available in law aswell. If you stopped and thought through your position you'd realise we're all better off from an individual rights point of view that this exists, as it ensures those people that do own property can deal with trespassers... In your hellscape of a world any clown could impose themselves on another's land without consequence.
If I was in public and a auditer was fliming I would have no problem whatsoever because they are performing a legal activity I would be far more concerned with the amount of surveillance from the CCTV and security cameras constantly watching us all the time I trust the auditers more than operators who just want to intrude and spy on peoples freedom.
I've only just got round to seeing this been looking for days must have slipped past me.. big respect to the lads... I promise I'm coming back very soon just got a few loose ends to sort out. Love the support guys 💯💯💯💯
Great to hear from you mate. You should put a video out saying as soon as I reach 10k subs then I’ll be back and let everyone campaign for your return 👌 Whenever it may be, I’d love to meet you one time ❤️
This one was a big mess if you ask me. Too many auditors with ego's causing mayhem, wrestling etc. They should have the skill to not get physically involved even if your rights are being infringed.
This is tough to disagree with… DJ is incredible what he does and is well mannered… so much time for him but the others are somewhat less professional despite knowing their rights. Quantity over quality on this one.
@@mikemerriman4109 yes i get turned off when auditors start a big slanging match and being overly confrontational and argumentative. I prefer it when they give them a bit of rope to hang themselves and use phycological diplomacy to disarm them. I like how DJ reasons with them and sometimes they realise they are being silly. To me that is more watchable than some chavs mouthing off
I have filmed official videos for retailers and have always had to get permission from the centre, as if I didn't I'd be swarmed by people asking if I had permission.
Not puzzling at all. Such a large and concentrated retail area need to have police there quickly. These shopping malls have more shops etc than a large town. The nearer they are, the faster the response. It’s just a sub station that were on most estates at one time.
As a customer I would shop at a different mall seeing this video that's appalling the way security acts I love how they show you a sign it says no filming oh wait there is no sign that says no filming lol, All those security guards should be fired, They are definitely a liability for them all good way to get sued
There is nothing obvious or in search results for filming, recording or camera's relating to recording on premises at Meadowhall accordingly their website.
I agree with most of the comments made here. Your approach (brand) is what makes your videos enjoyable to watch and my view is that by associating with these so called 'colleagues' you're just diminishing the quality of that brand. Put simply, you don't need them.
No high vis clothing, No hoods what is wrong with those items of clothing ? How do they react to people wearing face masks during the pandemic, they cover more of a persons ID than a hood.
Somebody stopped me from filming an historical house he told me he was going to phone the police I was the other side of the road filming but he didn't understand but I'm going to go back soon great video 👍
There are too many of these auditors about nowadays who have jumped on the bandwagon. That in turn has diluted the quality. A lot of these auditors get more upset and snowflakey than the people they film, who are probably on a shit wage. They’re targeting the wrong people, it’s not the cannon fodder on the shop floor they should go for, but the bosses who are sat on their fat arses raking in the money.
DO THEY HAVE A SPECSAVERS THERE TOO. DID NOT SEE ONE WISH I HAD FILMED MYSELF IN THERE THE LAST TIME I WENT. OH HANG ON A MINUTE THERE ARE SIGNS SAYING NO FILMING FUCK I MISSED THEM ASWELL.
unfortunately you are about right..why anyone would want to spend money in there is beyond me. If they look like thugs and act like thugs, they probably are thugs
No expectation of privacy in a public place is only a starting point and not an absolute set in stone argument. People can still have private conversations within the public domain and capturing that information and publicising it for the world to listen too, can open you up to civil litigation. Hiding behind a camera isn't going to stop a solicitor from finding you if they need too.
@Locutus I'm not worried about him, quite the opposite. I was merely making the point that he's wrong. I'm more concerned about other people that try this shit and aren't so lucky and end up with criminal records for something they thought they had the right to do.
The lady that owns Meadowhall has a husband that bought an iron foundry I worked in. He closed it down after a few years and my pension was ripped off. Never paid us redundancy and had to claim off the government.
I think the point was that they had turned up on their own to film on several occasions prior to this and been treated in exactly the same manner!!! Filming is not a crime don’t let them make it into one! If you don’t exercise your rights you will lose them!
Town centre cameras record kids on a daily basis and let’s have a discussion about Bent coppers etc so that blew that Pillocks argument out of the water straight away.
Those are security cameras for the shopping centre. They are not going to put these footages on internet like these annoying auditors. She and everyone else including auditor as already gave them consent to film when they entered the premises that had s sign on it saying "CCTV" in operation.
Worse it’s a stranger that you can’t see who might be focusing in on bits you don’t want him to focus on ? far worse than someone you can see filming for their own personal safety the way things are going?
I am a Owls fan, and if you had thought about asking "who supports Sheffield Wednesday" you might have realised that if a shop selling the Owls merchandise was opened in a shopping centre then lots of people must support them.
@Patrick Kelly - I suspect it would mightily piss-off British Land if Wednesday pulled out of Meadowhall because the centre could not control their louts, sorry, security staff.
Surely a true Owls fan would go to the ground to buy their shit sorry kit from there when they go to watch the games. are you saying you have fans that dont go to the ground. With this shop being near the toilets I though if there was no paper in the bogs you went and purchased a shirt to wipe your arse on.
Most shops have a no filming policy even coffee kiosks have the sign. Sometimes it's for copyright reasons. Other times it is for the patron's privacy.
Amazing demonstration of mind reading by security, they haven't complained but he knows they feel uncomfortable. Does he pick up the same vibe from the public as they wrestle journalists?
Hope you don't take this the wrong way DJ, but I've seen a couple of your vids where you're with your 'colleagues' and it seems to me that that they do nothing but deliberately create confrontation and antagonise to the detriment of your standing as one of the better Auditors. Best to disassociate yourself from these types before they drag you down.
That’s the aim. They aren’t doing any “audits” the whole point is to confront people, make a scene and play the victim all for UA-cam likes
@@ltrick3096 Do you not think that the very fact so many people take umbrage to a camera's presence is sufficient proof that it may not be lawful to ban photography but if somebody takes offence that is sufficient reason to stop filming? Wait till you are doing some innocent pastime like photography and are not breaking any law, but you get into trouble for it. Obviously I am nor wishing that upon you, but, it is a distinct possibility in a world where somebody else's feelings trump yours.
@@xenu-dark-tony I don’t need to go out filming people randomly I’m not a nonc e. How about these guys go “audit” ceos of corporate companies or the people in government not people at the bottom of the food chain tryna make a living for their family.
@@xenu-dark-tony
i was in a safe house 7 years ago
if I had come across DJ Audits in a mall or anywhere in the town he was visiting it could have caused untold damage and my life may have been in further danger
@@rebeccaryan3621 So because of your life no one else is allowed to have rights? It's no one else's responsibility to keep you safe.
I think a few others have said it before me DJ; you're much better on your own!!
Its interesting to see your journey regardless ❤
Totally agree!
Agree
Dj you are great
DJ unfortunately you are better on your own. Although I understand why you want to support these guys. You are all on the right side of the fight. But your direct, articulate knowledgeable, frank yet not rude demeanor is hard to achieve and not something that rest have.
Trouble makers not auditors!
If they're that concerned about filming families why are they doing it with the hundreds of cameras they have on every corner? 💁♀️
There's a difference with cameras and filming kids putting them on the Internet. He is not a journalist he's a twat trying to cause problems with people
@@spudmurphy8860 there’s no difference.
@@MrAndrewFarrow there is a difference they are not putting film all over the internet. If they did that you would not be happy would you. There are rules in place a venues to stop it going on the internet. Also there are signs saying camras in operation. So yes a big difference he is just a freak that wants to film and cause problems. End of
@@spudmurphy8860 I see no difference. Private places can restrict what you do ON their land.
It’ll be a sad day when we restrict what you can do in public.
When they started doing this a couple of years ago the standard response of every policeman was “papers please!”.
Now, that’s al stopped.
You still get people rushing up to the camera, saying filming is illegal. Thankfully, that is on the wane too.
Some people even believe they have copyright over their face and building.
A couple more years and that’ll stop too.
The old chestnut about there might be children is old hat too.
You CAN film children in public so long as it’s not obscene.
Sky do it at football matches everyday.
One rule for us and one for them?
Love the polski security takes you to a no filming sign that doesn't say no filming lol
If you check online she’s not Polish
@@rogerpattube and
@@bigwheelstv598 and so watch ur muzzle big man
@@JsuitMason speak up son yer no makin ony sense laddie
As a Sheffield local it really annoyed me when you walked straight past the toilets near the start and shortly after said you hadn’t seen signs 😡 it’s like being out with the mrs! 😂
The police officers there were outstanding in their handling of the situation.....they didn't even raise their voices..... were helpful, gave clear instructions......and were very fair with all concerned!
Why do the police interfere with a civil matter?
Security guards are the worst ones
I've seen loads these orditer videos
the police should just tell them on the phone
there's nothing we can do instead of wasting time and taxpayers money to come out and speak to these auditors
But that is the whole idea of these orditers videos it's too show how stupid some people are
the police , the security guards , etc
@@geoffwhite6383 because they are no longer police, They are merely policy enforcers for big corporations, if you are mugged, robbed, or your house is burgled they will show up if they feel like it, But if a company calls them they show up in minutes! and you will always be found to be in the wrong , no matter what the problem is, They will never take ypour side in any dispute, because they are in the pockets of the corporations.
@@geoffwhite6383, so what happens if these antagonisers don't leave, as soon as security lay a hand on them to get them off, they scream assault. All this is, they don't want to do a job, so let's annoy people.
@@Cockermadman Unfortunately, Alan, private security often go too far. The public has a right to be protected against assault.
DJ You're really not doing yourself any favours associating with these lads. You have your own polite and to the point style that is getting blemished by being with these idiots.
I agree, however its all within the law which is the whole point.
@@grantc8353 No I'm not referring to the auditing I'm referring simply from a public image and respect point of view of his subscribers.
They're imbeciles and he shouldn't associate with them.
@@Adam_Outdoors I understand and agree.
@@grantc8353 how exactly is it within the law when one of his friends got arrested cmon dont be so gullible he should stick to solo content
@@AdamF8 Who got arrested and by whom?
7:30 it’s ironic that the Apple Store have issues and concerns with you filming. Practically everything they sell you has a camera!! 🎥 📸
not quite the fluffy hippy open to all company they pretend to be obviously
That’s Apple for you
LOL
Stick to samsung
Why are they so transfixed with stopping you filming ...I think its because the security are worried that their universal credit claim might not go well.
I know at least 18 families who refuse to use " shopping centres with security thugs " because they don't feel safe because of their thuggery , im sure shop owners want to bear that in mind
@@topcat1358 you would allow it because it's your property owned by you others wouldn't allow because it's property owned by them.
@@topcat1358 they don't have to tell you anything. People in general don't like being in other people's recording or even don't want their property being recorded.
@@topcat1358 it might be a ''just in case'' thing. for example if a video taken of a bunch of kids running around and it gets reported on some dirty nonce website that was taken in their premesis theyll get it in the neck. also regular members of the public putting complaints in about being filmed. you can garuntee that a small portion of the people in the background dont want to be filmed but wont dare say anything to the gang of lads doing it and would rather complain to management. its safer to just disallow filming alltogether. the risks outweigh the benefits
@Ivan Carrter - Well put, Ivan.
@@juliandavies1974 Oh do please learn the law. The shop units are private. The concourses are publicly-accessible.
All of you should be in a civil claim for compensation from Meadowhall. They haven't learnt from multiple visits. They might learn from a large payout. Since not all of you were physically manhandled like Ryan was, the amounts will be different but since they abused your rights, made up rules on the fly, didn't follow the law or policy, called the police all based on the security manager's hatred of photographers the amounts should be between £500 for a simple unlawful trespass to £5000 for Ryan.
Yeah when Ryan was walking out at the end with cigarette in his mouth doing the gangster walk what a wally absolute waste of space wasting police time.
@@Awakend7 i grew up in northern Ireland 🇮🇪 our rights where trampled into the ground finally things changed here for the better. Those snowflakes haven't a clue they need to sign off the dole and do a days work.
@@Awakend7 how do you know what i earn guarantee one thing i earn more than you or them and contribute to my community in a dignified manner you said it aye they're scroungers.
They never do. Pointless videos.
I actually really agree with the message below from Duncan, it's like when your in a group or with others your a little more antagonistic, I love your videos because we really need to know our rights, and you show us professionally most the time.. it's just my opinion but when your alone it's so professional and informative. Keep up the great work 💯👍
Can't believe security thought they had the powers to arrest someone, WTF!
I want to fight with a security guard one to one outside their work place lets see who tuff guy is
@@rahanmiah9428 go on then
They do for indictable offences and some others such as Criminal damage and theft offences that are either way offences but even if said offence is summary. Here the detained under the common law breach of the peace which in some circumstances can be done by security if someone is resisting when being physically removed from the land their in charge of. Assault and battery charges can also arise from this.
In this case they can, as authorised agents of the Centre management, revoke your implied right of access and instruct you to leave. If you refuse you are then trespassing. Trespass is a civil matter and in such cases Security staff (or any other authorised person appointed by the owner/occupier) can then use reasonable force to remove you from the property. if you resist such action you are then committing the criminal offence of aggravated trespass.
Aiden-on fire!
Fancy that a shop selling cameras, petrified of cameras.
Yes don't spend ££££ on an iPhone with a better camera because apple won't let you use it.
That's irony for you!
35:00 If you come back next time and the sign has been updated to ban cameras, then you have a stronger case against them as it would be acknowledgement that they fucked up. It would also be an indication that they act in a retaliatory way and not because it's a policy that is actually needed.
@@juliandavies1974 Which is not easy to find. It's not sign posted or given a link on the home page, so it's like the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy where the planning application for the destruction of the Earth was in the locked filing cabinet in the toilets in the basement behind a door that said "Beware of tigers".
@@juliandavies1974 With a tripod.
@@juliandavies1974 Oh do give it a rest. If it is not on a sign which is on public display within the centre, "it's online" isn't going to get British Land very far if they are sued for one of their security staff assaulting a visitor, as happened in the case in Derbyshire.
@@juliandavies1974 Maybe so. But that does not get British Land off the hook in the legal sense. What you appear to be doing - and it is pretty obvious - is trying to excuse or justify the conduct of the security staff who are ill-disciplined and aggressive. I'm a retired cop, and to be honest, I have no time for aggressive security officers or those who try to act as apologists for them or try to justify their behaviour. As for your attempts to say British Land can, effectively, do as it likes, something tells me you need to learn what the law actually says and how it works in practice.
Your way better off doing audits solo as these clowns is what gives auditors a bad name. Keep doing YOU do not get involved with this silly business.
I've just been on their website, ans I can't find one word about filming in the Centre. There are rules, but not one that doesn't allow filming. The Police must get pissed off with security chimps throwing their weight about, then calling 999 when it all goes wrong and the REAL Police have to come and bail them out. They should tell the chimps, "YOU started it; YOU sort it out!".
Yeh cos everyone wants masked men filming there familys right
Why would anyone shop at Meadowhall, when all you get is abuse from security staff who have no appreciation of the law.
@@juliandavies1974 "prove the staff " WTH is that meant to mean
@@topcat1358 Perhaps they were window shopping. The acuity of your observation would lead me to the conclusion that you would never notice abuse.
@@juliandavies1974 A lot of shopping centre owners have no problems with auditors or those who do covert filming in their shopping centres as the footage often ends up on UA-cam which is accessible worldwide. The problem is with security staff who make up rules that do not exist and/or are little more than thugs in a uniform.
Would be great to see an English person on you tube
@@juliandavies1974 Unfortunately, when you have security staff who don't know the law - and really don't care what the law says - that is when things go horribly wrong.
As for conditions of entry, I've just checked Meadowhall's website and they are nowhere to be seen. To be honest, it is difficult to stop people using smartphones to send pictures to others who are not at Meadowhall. A lot of people use smartphones to show what is on sale and to check whoever is on the other end of the phone that is what they want the person who is at Meadowhall to buy for them or enquire about. Most of the major supermarkets do not seem to have any problem with this.
I suspect the "Conditions of Entry" you refer to have been made up by security staff. This was found going on at another shopping centre owned by British Land. When challenged, the shopping centre manager knew nothing about it and confirmed there was no condition of entry regarding filming.
Security that actually understands they can use reasonable force to remove civil trespassers, they can't arrest you for trespass but they can carry you out
That’s right.
You hear some nonsense on here to the effect that s33 CJA72 allows you on to publicly accessible land ergo, no one can even touch you.
No.
LIMITED FORCE to escort you off.
Reasonable force to get the job done.
Definitions will be up to the jury post hoc.
@@MrAndrewFarrow It's reasonable force in England/Wales and the minimum required force in Scotland. 100's of bouncers will use it every single night and SIA training includes the use of reasonable force to remove trespassers. I think the difference between bouncers and other SIA is bouncers expect to use reasonable force (every night) while its rare for other security to have to do it. Normally asking people to leave will do the trick
@@jons9721 correct. Our bouncers were called on most nights.
This guff you get on here that no one may touch a hair on your head whilst on their premises is bollox.
Go down Leeds on a Friday night.
They’re a LOT better than they used to be. SIA is working.
I would imagine 'reasonable; force against anyone refusing to leave and shouting their heads of is going to be anything that doesn't involve broken bones or serious cuts and bruises. If the trespasser actually starts using violence then its going to be any force until the now criminal is no longer a threat
@@MrAndrewFarrow do you run a gay bar? the puffs would sooner the bouncers touch their bollox on the premises than ruin their hair.
I can't believe the Security said you are under arrest,he is a joke as are all the security here.They have no respect for anyone .
Maybe some deluded attempt at a Citizens Arrest ... ?
@@Jester-Riddle Or cardiac arrest?🤣
They are police they're is a police sta I'll on in medowhall stupid people like u don't get it
Stay the fuck in Manchester n lesciter
@@andrewpickersgill1739 I DO NOT GET WHAT YOU MEAN. WHAT IS THE SENTANCE YOU WROTE SUPPOSED TO MEAN ? YOU HAVE WRITTEN IN GIBERISH IT DOES NOT MAK ANY SENSE AT ALLL. THERE IS A POLICE STATION ON ? IN ? WHERE ? YOU CANT SPELL MEADOWHALL SO ITS OBVIOUSLEY YOU WHO IS STUPID. NOT TO MENTION A DUMB ARSED KNOBHEAD
Love watching your videos DJ but when your with anyone else I think the best intentions become questionable. You hold yourself brilliantly throughout anything Iv seen from you but these other guys don’t really do you any favours. Il carry on watching your videos along with AB.
What was the outcome of the assault of ryan ramage in the meadowhall shopping centre I see no SIA badges on any of the secruity guards
His case is still ongoing. Please ask Ryan for further details.
These Police are not interested in going after the so called ‘security’ & the one that put his hands on and the one that said Ryan was arrested. Impersonating a Police Officer is an offence isn’t it? Pls do let us know
Using the chunky bearded security guys logic. Does that mean you can't film at Disney because there are kids there ?
Someone needs to tell Sky news etc, because they film people of all ages on a daily basis.
That security guard is a idiot
I think DJ is always polite and explains well exactly why he is there and gives respect to people he speaks to. Sadly doesn't get it reciprocated. Appears some of the others he is with aren't always the same and quite often get slightly aggressive
I find it very interesting Meadowhall shopping centre appears to have such an extreme position on public photography whilst previously partnering the police/ state in a secret covert operation of facial recognition. Can anyone advise if the property owner has ever defended the extreme policy in a substantive manner?
The are so worried about photography that they don’t have signs on all their entrances and exits.
Thats why most people refer to this place as meadowhell ive been there and can honestly say its a shithole
Wow! These police are smart! They realized almost immediately that the cameras would tell the tale. Bravo! They should get immediate promotions!
Imagine how they would behave in a dark alleyway while someone is drunk and is not filming them. I know. I've witnessed police brutality on drunk public leaving pubs and clubs. It's disgraceful.
I took pictures of the Christmas decorations for years. Nobody ever said anything. People have become very uncomfortable with activities that previously nobody cared about. I work in retail if people want to take photographs that's ok with me.
That's fine but not everyone is like you. And shops are private property and if they have rules of no filming than that is their rule they have a right to make.
@@happyguy201 You are correct in that the shop units are private areas, but the public areas (known as common areas) are classed as public places whilst the shopping centre is open to the public. The security staff featured have, probably, done untold damage to the public image of Meadowhall Shopping Centre by their actions. The gobby one really does need start looking for another job as the assault and false imprisonment are enough to warrant Dismissal On the Grounds of Gross Misconduct under Employment Law. The female security officer who put her arms out to stop her gobby colleague from being pulled off Ryan needs to be told, in plain, clear language what she did was ill-advised as it could constitute being an accessory to a criminal offence. It is clear the SIA needs to become a regulator with teeth that bite and a bite that hurts.
Remember the words: "See something, Say something"?
Yeah, welcome to the fallout.
..
I can only imagine what the fallout is going to be for mask mandates, social distancing mandates, and now vaccine mandates! O_O
I'm sure that they wouldn't say anything; what these muppets aren't showing is the provocative way they are doing this, doing as much as they can to engage any of the staff/public worker in an argument.
@@plumfun6750 In their wet dreams. Such mandates are illegal under International Law which supersedes any domestic Boris & Co attempt to inflict on us.
I have changed my mind about different kinds of auditor....we need each and every single one of our auditors....they are well within rights to be annoyed by the bad policing And guards and getting angry at being abused and let down by public officials...it is not our auditors that have to change it is the police and all the security guards who don't know what the hell they are doing...these bad officials need to be held personally responsible for abusing public and we need more transparency and accountability 👏👏👏👏👏👏well done and thankyou ❤️ all of our auditors
The only people that had a problem with being videoed here are the security, no one complained and there are no rules posted about no cameras, so this security team are talking absolute crap!!! .
There is no legal requirement to have signage. Shopping Centres are private property to which the public have an implied right of access, that access being conditional on the compliance with the terms and conditions of the owner/occupier. Security staff are authorised agents of the owner/ occupier and if they say you cannot film or record on the property you must comply, failure will result in your implied right of access being revoked.
The fact no member of the public complained is irrelevant.
@@Aidankiwi you are wrong everywhere when you have public access is a public place read the low better and its in all hole worls for 20 years so just wake up man 😂😂😂
What do they think is the actual threat of a mobile phone? Ego driven, authoritarian and all for minimum wage. Unbelievable
Just had a look on their website their is nothing on their about filming.
Yes there is, look under code of conduct
Hi DJ
Stick to doing your videos on your own. You are always polite and reasonable but with others there seems to be more confrontation.
You have the best way of dealing with situations. Be best for your reputation.
We need more cops 👮♂️ like this DJ.
Good on the police officers the public likes to see that
What rubbish. Kept demanding the guys stop recording and in the pocket of the security guards, boasting about how one of them arrested and charged another auditor. And i still dont understand why the auditors had to give their names and addresses - what crime did they commit?
Considering these places are our modern day streets filming is surely allowed.
Nope these premises are owned by someone else, a private citizen that is entitled to have whatever rule for their customers they want whether it's verbal or written.
@@happyguy201 I use camera glasses, that's until they ban people wearing glasses.
So they didn't see the camera in your shoe?
This happened to me once when Westfield in the Bush first opened, I was taking photos with a DSLRand told to leave, Hundreds of other people taking hundreds of photos with mobile phones , not approached, go figure????!!!🤔🤔🤔🥴🥴
Shopping centres make me feel nauseous since my first visit to the Trafford Centre in 2002. Support your local shops and community
Were you the man on the tele from VIZ.
I really love these kinds of videos because I'm in a wheelchair. Their website might say it's wheelchair-friendly, but it's not always true. These videos allow me to see the places, find what I'm after, etc.
Dead easy ; don’t go into these arenas of cheap consumerism and cathedrals of tat.
Let’s start supporting the small traders and each other instead of lining the pockets of these greedy corporations.
Very good point. Thanks for watching.
Totally agree 👍
These places will all be empty and abandoned in the next 10 years, internet shopping is the future
@@scottchegg1355 what’s the most you have paid for a Hugo boss t shirt mate?
@@scottchegg1355 Wanker, through and through.
You showed respect to all, thanks. So well done.
not a vengeance mission!
Managed to drag myself through the rest of this video, just want to say security did a fantastic job dealing with this group of thugs. Professional throughout and put in a very difficult situation which they dealt with superbly. Well done!
The main purpose of Signs is to Communicate, to convey information designed to assist the receiver based on the information provided....Clear, Precise signage is Everything.
Re-watching this! You are amazing as you are! Best audits! Always have the bell on mate!
That was hard to watch, There were young kids around during the confrontations and although you remained polite the other guys were far to aggressive in my opinion.
SO SO RIGHT. the others are out to make trouble to boost there egos and get more knobheads watching there shit channels. D J is a class act in what he does and the way he tries to be respectful.
@@darrylrichardson7940 their*
@@Adam_Outdoors yes I know my fault typing left handed instead of right handed but I was fist fucking my girlfriend with my right hand at the time.
2:30: “not walked past any toilets yet”
2:12: *walks past toilet* 🤣
Seriously tho, you’re one of my favourite new channels - keep it up 👍🏻
I didn’t realise 🤣🤣🤣
@@DJAUDITS lol thought it was funny is all - much love brother
As others have already stated: You really need to do these videos solo, as those colleagues really bring down the channel.
the police should not have a police station in a corporation shopping centre they do not work for them they work for the people there was no sign in the centre saying no cameras and telling you to go online for all the policies is stupid who checks online before going shopping at a publicly accessible area check out Ken Livingston and the police at Westfield
Don't police work for all public. Arents shops and shop workers inside the shopping centre not paying their taxes. Sure they will be happy to have a police station close by if some thing happens insude their shops.
@@happyguy201 if a shop is broken into they are there within minutes some one kicks your back door in they might turn up a week later thats the difference.
No they don't even take few minutes to come to shops either they are useless. Ask a shop owner what does police do and how long it takes for them to come to his shop emergency like if he was attacked he will say the same thing. My local newsagent got robbed by a knifeman about two months ago and the son
Was out and his mum was in shop (husband dead) and there
Was only one female customrer who tried helping but the guy too around £300 in cash and luckily no one was hurt but she is scared and terrified and so is he for his mum when alone in shop. They obviously called police they turned up nearly and hour later and took cctv but nothing happened yet no one arrested. I work at a shop even me if I get attacked at the shop where I work the police will not turn up on time despite them literally located next door to shopping centre they will turn up may the next day they are useless and ridiculous. They will turn up within minutes for politicians mate that's what you should say they will not turn up for us the public whether at our homes or shops.
I'd stay well clear of them other auditors. Keep your own style
The security are like brainwashed zombies. Good video. As for the security bloke trying to arrest someone. He must think he's a hero. A proper Walter Mitty. Police seem pretty cool.
I wouldn't do audits with these clowns, you're far better on your own adopting your own approach
I would have loved to see this solo.
Agreed
I totally agree, this video let you down DJ.
Please go solo, DJ.
😂 boycott the clowns
Gotta say, that is an impressive shopping centre, all the units are filled and the place is buzzing with people. You would think that any recording would be seen in a positive light as it promotes the centre.
That's what I thought. All online exposure is free advertisement.
@@DJAUDITS Crazy times, it is not like you are sneaking about the place with hidden cameras, all your recordings are up front with great commentary, these security people really do need an education into the laws of the land, most of them are clueless when they wear the Hi-Vis vest of power.
@@davidclare7494 I genuinely think you are watching the wrong kind of videos then just my opinion. Walk around places where security guards do not know how far their powers go and have no knowledge of laws and bylaws. let them bullshit you just because they wear a uniform. The minute you step off a train at Meadowhall station or the bus station next door or pull into the carparks you are on film to when you enter the malls to when you leave you are on camera. but you do not want members of the public to use their cameras.
@@davidclare7494 IM 54 and see the whole country going down the shitter. cant do this cant do that no cctv no speed cameras just good honest hard working people in uniforms when we were growing up. now the uniformed are power crazy. even when they have no power.
not fussed on these group audits , them guys are too loud and act like a bunch of thugs , ide stay solo if i was you , just my own opinion though ,
Just started watching this and noticed you walked past what looked like a sign for the toilets on your left and shortly after said you had still not seen any signs for the toilets, lol. I will now continue to watch the full video.
As far as I'm aware, shopping centres are run by private companies and as such offer no right of way. And as with any private company, they can choose who they let onto their premises and the rules of conduct for said premises. The simple answer is, don't use horrible, tacky, consumer-bot shopping centres. Cheers.
There is a line in the code of conduct that Meadowhall publish on their website. Hidden away in the most inaccessible place and not easily found as it's not titled or signposted well. It took me a few minutes to find it as I searched all over the site for it. It says:
To ensure the health and safety of our visitors the following are strictly prohibited:
• Smoking on the malls.
• Cycling, roller blading, micro scooters, segways, hover boards and skating on the malls.
• Running, climbing or sitting on any escalator, balustrade, barrier, fence or railing.
• Filming and photography, using tripod equipment.
So as you didn't use any tripods you were ejected for reasons made up on the fly based purely on the personal opinions of the security.
It was easy to find : "Filming and photography is not permitted unless authorisation is granted by Centre Management in advance. The use of tripod equipment is not permitted." So not sure what you on about....they we're not permitted. And security did tell where to find this information. He refused to believe because the're is no sign....... well I saw no sign with the law on it ......so i can do what i want?......
@@laserr10000000 Who goes to the bottom of a web page to look for some legal mumbo jumbo. A professional photographer would do so and would even check with the management without looking for the T&Cs - because thats what they do.
But a hobby photographer or a tourist/visitor wouldn't because they'd have the belief that photography is not some sort of thing that only terrorists and criminals perform (which is what security think). So a visitor admiring something in the centre, or just taking pictures of something of interest to show to someone else such as a nice product to buy wouldn't check the T&Cs.
To have any weight a policy needs to be shoved in the faces of people entering, not hidden away at the bottom of a webpage that hardly anyone visits. It can't be enforced willy nilly when security see something as it could be seen as just the opinion of the security based on nothingness.
T&Cs for shopping centres are pointless since people just carry on doing what they do outside of it, and they don't do what they don't do outside of it. The T&Cs basically repeat legal stuff like no smoking or repeat known social conventions like no skateboarding. Having policies like shoes & shirts must be worn (yes I have read it) is fucking stupid and unenforceable on a hot day.
Unless it's discriminatory you can't force your interpretation of the rules onto a land owner or agent of a landowner mad lad.
You're frequently wrong in your interpretation of the law.
@@B-26354 Oh, I didn't realise that a code of conduct is the law.
@TheSadButMadLad
No the law is the law.
You can't impose yourself on private land once told by the owner or agent of the land owner (security) that you have to leave.
Common law power of ejection to use force is available in law aswell.
If you stopped and thought through your position you'd realise we're all better off from an individual rights point of view that this exists, as it ensures those people that do own property can deal with trespassers... In your hellscape of a world any clown could impose themselves on another's land without consequence.
If they don’t want to be recorded that they shouldn’t have approached you, you have to love the mental intellect of these people
If I was in public and a auditer was fliming I would have no problem whatsoever because they are performing a legal activity I would be far more concerned with the amount of surveillance from the CCTV and security cameras constantly watching us all the time I trust the auditers more than operators who just want to intrude and spy on peoples freedom.
✨ There's a truly excellent method of making certain this place has very negative reviews. Those employees are just abysmal. ✨
TO BE FAIR THE COPS WERE BRILLIENT AT THIS ONE
BUT THE SECRITY £10 AN HOUR WERE KNOBS COS THEY CANT GET A DECENT JOB PEASANTS I WOULD OF MADE THAT A POINT AUDITORS MAKE MORE MONEY THAN THEY DO
copper in charge seemed legit
I've only just got round to seeing this been looking for days must have slipped past me.. big respect to the lads... I promise I'm coming back very soon just got a few loose ends to sort out. Love the support guys 💯💯💯💯
Great to hear from you mate. You should put a video out saying as soon as I reach 10k subs then I’ll be back and let everyone campaign for your return 👌 Whenever it may be, I’d love to meet you one time ❤️
This one was a big mess if you ask me. Too many auditors with ego's causing mayhem, wrestling etc. They should have the skill to not get physically involved even if your rights are being infringed.
This is tough to disagree with… DJ is incredible what he does and is well mannered… so much time for him but the others are somewhat less professional despite knowing their rights.
Quantity over quality on this one.
@@mikemerriman4109 yes i get turned off when auditors start a big slanging match and being overly confrontational and argumentative. I prefer it when they give them a bit of rope to hang themselves and use phycological diplomacy to disarm them. I like how DJ reasons with them and sometimes they realise they are being silly. To me that is more watchable than some chavs mouthing off
I have filmed official videos for retailers and have always had to get permission from the centre, as if I didn't I'd be swarmed by people asking if I had permission.
It's puzzling why a shopping center needs its own police station, corporate policing at its best.
Not puzzling at all. Such a large and concentrated retail area need to have police there quickly. These shopping malls have more shops etc than a large town. The nearer they are, the faster the response. It’s just a sub station that were on most estates at one time.
@@lizzybumkins yep great stuff tax money protecting private corporations, while 60& 0f crimes unsolved
I'm with Farage on this one. Too many thugs employed in security that bring their violent natures from abroad.
As a customer I would shop at a different mall seeing this video that's appalling the way security acts I love how they show you a sign it says no filming oh wait there is no sign that says no filming lol, All those security guards should be fired, They are definitely a liability for them all good way to get sued
The way you say ‘tour-let’s’ kills me 😂
The bags under the eyes are a sign of an excessive drinker/functioning alcoholic.
I do hope the police uphold the assault charges, it would be a shame to let these criminals get away with just a slap on the wrist.
Criminals? I saw reasonable force to remove someone from private property when they were clearly refusing after being asked.
@@CrazedFandango what if your there for legit reasons to seek justice but they disagree with you based on there prejudice judgement?
There is nothing obvious or in search results for filming, recording or camera's relating to recording on premises at Meadowhall accordingly their website.
I agree with most of the comments made here. Your approach (brand) is what makes your videos enjoyable to watch and my view is that by associating with these so called 'colleagues' you're just diminishing the quality of that brand. Put simply, you don't need them.
No high vis clothing, No hoods what is wrong with those items of clothing ?
How do they react to people wearing face masks during the pandemic, they cover more of a persons ID than a hood.
Try coming up here to Scotland sometime. There are no trespass laws in Scotland. Would be interesting to see the shopping centres comparison.
15:00 He questioning his job role and the muscle ratio he thought he would require, for not being allowed to challenge behaviour he dislikes.
Somebody stopped me from filming an historical house he told me he was going to phone the police I was the other side of the road filming but he didn't understand but I'm going to go back soon great video 👍
absolutely abysmal attitude to to general public,management should be ashamed of how they run that place
The chain of command is a ridiculous joke.
*The horrifyingly dangerous thing is the chain of obedience.*
Who the f*ck do they think they are!!! That is everything the SIA train you NOT to do!!!!!🤬🤬🤬
No comment it’s like we escorting you out made me laugh out loud so much 😂😂😂
Great interaction with the police..
TBF If i was there, I wouldn't like someone recording my kids. I would say something about it, sorry.
Those mugs you're with are going to get you in trouble...fair warning.
There is only 2 more videos to release from my day in Sheffield. I'm normally on my own but on that day it was a big get together.
Yeah i dont care much for this in your face audits. Let your knowledge of the law do all the talking. Done with calm and respect you will hit harder.
You are turning into News Now Yorkshire...he went from legit auditor...to laughing stock hanging out with numtys
There are too many of these auditors about nowadays who have jumped on the bandwagon. That in turn has diluted the quality. A lot of these auditors get more upset and snowflakey than the people they film, who are probably on a shit wage. They’re targeting the wrong people, it’s not the cannon fodder on the shop floor they should go for, but the bosses who are sat on their fat arses raking in the money.
The toilet signs were on the left as you walked in dj lol next to max the photo expert 😂 should have gone to spec savers 🤣🤣🤣🤣great video matey 👍
DO THEY HAVE A SPECSAVERS THERE TOO. DID NOT SEE ONE WISH I HAD FILMED MYSELF IN THERE THE LAST TIME I WENT. OH HANG ON A MINUTE THERE ARE SIGNS SAYING NO FILMING FUCK I MISSED THEM ASWELL.
Reminds me of The Sturmabteilung: Hitler’s Unofficial Army Of Thugs
unfortunately you are about right..why anyone would want to spend money in there is beyond me. If they look like thugs and act like thugs, they probably are thugs
No expectation of privacy in a public place is only a starting point and not an absolute set in stone argument. People can still have private conversations within the public domain and capturing that information and publicising it for the world to listen too, can open you up to civil litigation. Hiding behind a camera isn't going to stop a solicitor from finding you if they need too.
I'm pretty sure DJ knows it won't take much for lawyers to find out where he lives, his address, his name, etc, so don't worry about him.
@Locutus I'm not worried about him, quite the opposite. I was merely making the point that he's wrong.
I'm more concerned about other people that try this shit and aren't so lucky and end up with criminal records for something they thought they had the right to do.
Probably private prosecution / litigation against the security company for 'soliciting tresspass' (aka: 'conspiring') 🤔🤔🤔
The lady that owns Meadowhall has a husband that bought an iron foundry I worked in. He closed it down after a few years and my pension was ripped off. Never paid us redundancy and had to claim off the government.
The security guard had a case. Nobody wants 4 cameras being thrown on them. I'm a big fan of AB and he does it all on his own. Much more entertaining.
I think the point was that they had turned up on their own to film on several occasions prior to this and been treated in exactly the same manner!!! Filming is not a crime don’t let them make it into one!
If you don’t exercise your rights you will lose them!
Town centre cameras record kids on a daily basis and let’s have a discussion about Bent coppers etc so that blew that Pillocks argument out of the water straight away.
The lady needs to look up and see how many cameras are recording her, the entire time she is in work. That is being monitored by a complete stranger 😉
Those are security cameras for the shopping centre. They are not going to put these footages on internet like these annoying auditors. She and everyone else including auditor as already gave them consent to film when they entered the premises that had s sign on it saying "CCTV" in operation.
@@happyguy201 look at all the people caught shitting themselves or walking into doors or other random shit from cctv on youtube
@@smileyfalcon5425 CCTV not released on UA-cam
Worse it’s a stranger that you can’t see who might be focusing in on bits you don’t want him to focus on ?
far worse than someone you can see filming for their own personal safety the way things are going?
Previous visits have clearly not taught The Meadowhall Security anything. I had a problem with them a few years ago - I NEVER shop there now.
I am a Owls fan, and if you had thought about asking "who supports Sheffield Wednesday" you might have realised that if a shop selling the Owls merchandise was opened in a shopping centre then lots of people must support them.
Good luck against Portsmouth on Tuesday 7th 👍
@Patrick Kelly - I suspect it would mightily piss-off British Land if Wednesday pulled out of Meadowhall because the centre could not control their louts, sorry, security staff.
I think he kind of corrected what he was going to say halfway through to comment if you Support
Surely a true Owls fan would go to the ground to buy their shit sorry kit from there when they go to watch the games. are you saying you have fans that dont go to the ground. With this shop being near the toilets I though if there was no paper in the bogs you went and purchased a shirt to wipe your arse on.
You walked straight past the toilets in the first section you were in 🤣
Stay on your own dude, u are more professional that way👍
Most shops have a no filming policy even coffee kiosks have the sign. Sometimes it's for copyright reasons. Other times it is for the patron's privacy.
Anti- Hi Vis is such a big crime in the UK. Everybody wears it here in Canada, even my dog.
Didn't know Sam dingle was moon lighting sounded just like him when they was walking out down the stairs
Big up dj enjoyed that buddy 👏
Glad you enjoyed it
Ryan makes me laugh ,, he's always in the thick of it ,,, just goes to show that the police work for companies rather than the public
Amazing demonstration of mind reading by security, they haven't complained but he knows they feel uncomfortable. Does he pick up the same vibe from the public as they wrestle journalists?
They are selling iPhones, yet won't let people use an iPhone to film in their shop! What a huge fail for apple!