Exehaven Harbour 82 N Gauge Model Railway

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  • Опубліковано 26 лис 2024

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  • @ngaugefouroaksstreetstatio6932
    @ngaugefouroaksstreetstatio6932 8 місяців тому +1

    Hi John, yes i like bridges too! The station throat is going to look great. All the best.

    • @exehavenharbour
      @exehavenharbour  8 місяців тому

      Hi Chris, thanks mate, I’m glad you like what I’m up to, cheers for now, John

  • @TheHeritageLine
    @TheHeritageLine 8 місяців тому +1

    Hi John, Nice to see the layout progressing along. the bridge looks a lot better with the extra support and I especially like the idea of the bridge crossing the track, that will make a really nice scenic element. I agree with what you are saying about canted track, Euan's looks really good, and I'm sure you could get similar results. Looks like lots more track laying and testing a head, but it gives you a excuse to play with the trains 😂. All the best Tony.

    • @exehavenharbour
      @exehavenharbour  8 місяців тому +1

      Hi Tony, Lol! Yes lots more playing with trains… erm I mean planning 🤔🤣
      If I can get my canted bends as good as Euan’s I’ll be really pleased, it does look fantastic as the trains come round.
      The bridge is finished for now and the extra pier has made all the difference from looks to being reasonably correct from an engineering point of view. Few more bridges to build yet some hope be an interesting couple of months ahead.
      Cheers as always Tony, John

  • @IanRMcAllister
    @IanRMcAllister 9 місяців тому +2

    Good video - and we real bridge lovers anonymous love the new and structurally correct bridge - Great soloution from Stephen - Good Luck!

    • @exehavenharbour
      @exehavenharbour  9 місяців тому +1

      Hi Ian, thanks again for pointing that out, I obviously hadn’t thought about that but now another pier has been made I actually think it looks better! More bridges to come, so I may have to appoint you structural engineer for Exehaven!
      Cheers for now, John

  • @Nat-AVMR-N-gauge
    @Nat-AVMR-N-gauge 8 місяців тому +2

    Hi John, nice progress I’m really liking the new pier under the bridge am I think it looks much more realistic, it’s always great to begin to see the track progression, keep up the good work. Nat🚂👍

    • @exehavenharbour
      @exehavenharbour  8 місяців тому +1

      Hi Nat, yes, you’re right mate the extra pier was necessary and looks the part.
      I’m hoping to get back to cabin tomorrow for some more track laying and more progression hopefully!
      I’m really glad you like what’s happening, cheers for now, John

  • @hayridgemodelrail4046
    @hayridgemodelrail4046 8 місяців тому +1

    Hi John, interesting track formation, moving the points to the other side of the bridge definitely works better. Will be great to see the trains arriving and departing the station.
    Keep up the great work
    Allan

    • @exehavenharbour
      @exehavenharbour  8 місяців тому

      Hi Allan, well the points will be tested where the junction is now as I think I might prefer it there, it will depend on if the points work on that slight slope, but I’bve got a feeling the other side may work better. So keep watching to see what happens.
      Cheers mate, John

  • @EssexThameside
    @EssexThameside 9 місяців тому +1

    Hi John, I really don't know how you manage without a proper plan to work out track geometry. Each step seems to bring a new problem but you deal with it and move on. Love watching your progress as I have done since the start. All the best neighbour 😊 Brian from Horndon on the Hill

    • @exehavenharbour
      @exehavenharbour  9 місяців тому

      Hi Brian, lol!, it’s the way I like to work mate, i have a basic plan in my head and I will fit that in. To be honest it’s not much different from the original plan but with some much easier gradients and the towns and docks just moved locations.
      I’m really glad you’re enjoying it cheers for now neighbour, John

  • @lynganddistrict
    @lynganddistrict 9 місяців тому +2

    Ohhh I love a ponder with a brew! Cant beat it especially when you have a loco running around in the back ground. The extra pier looks perfect and Stephen was right about the odd number. Having gone through Great Yarmouth Road bridge whilst on the broads it is very obvious that vessels use the righthand side so it dose look realistic and completes the scene. And your right, the community and the kind advice and comments help all of us to improve our layouts and thats what its all about. Keep up the good work John.
    Regards
    Steve

    • @exehavenharbour
      @exehavenharbour  9 місяців тому

      Hi Steve, yes it’s become one life’s pleasures a ponder with a cuppa watching a train run round. A lot of my good idea’s come from a good ponder!
      I’m very happy with the extra pier, it’s worked out nicely and I shall remember that they use the right hand side!
      Glad you’ve been enjoying it mate, cheers for now, John

  • @philbrown3685
    @philbrown3685 8 місяців тому

    Coming along well John , good vid , cheers m8.

  • @medwaypeninsulaMR
    @medwaypeninsulaMR 9 місяців тому +1

    Hi John- Steady progress being made and I do love the bridges and it is worth have a time out and have a ponder with a brew .
    Ship is coming on nicely .
    Cheers Kev

    • @exehavenharbour
      @exehavenharbour  8 місяців тому

      Hi Kev, hope you’re well mate, slowly but surely, sadly my time is limited at the moment as our parents are needing more of our time. Glad you like the bridges and the Carpathia all of which I’m enjoying building.
      The old ponder and brew is an essential part of building a model railway Kev!
      Cheers mate, John

  • @SC68
    @SC68 9 місяців тому +1

    Hi John, Layout coming along well and you cant beat a cup of tea and pondering, its a great pastime on my layout but I do ponder too long generally as like watching the trains 😉!! The bridge does look great and with the curves you can see how good its going to be to watch and film trains running over it!! I think the central pillar does make sense and looks the part now its in! Looking forward to what you are going to do with the scenics on this part of the layout it going to look great!! Cheers Gary

    • @exehavenharbour
      @exehavenharbour  8 місяців тому

      Hi Gary, a cup of tea and a ponder are essential to building a model railway and sometimes a beer to get the your best ideas!
      I’m glad you like what you see, I want the layout to look as interesting as I can make it and I think the curves add to that, make it look a little less that an oval.
      The extra pier was the right thing to do and you’re right it does look the part and of course from an engineering point of view is right.
      The scenics are a way off yet as I want to get the track laid and tested but there will be more infrastructure to build, so hopefully plenty of interest to come.
      Cheers for now mate, John

  • @thegrowler-blackwoodngauge
    @thegrowler-blackwoodngauge 9 місяців тому +1

    Hi John - do like the idea of the bridge over the tracks coming off the scratch built bridge - especially as it'll be on a skew. Also putting the track cant in would give some pretty good running shots ! (glad you enjoy watching mine 😊). The location of the crossing - glad this has been moved to the straight section of track on the other side of the bridge. Your original location I think would have been troublesome. PL10E point motors have the extended pins which will easily reach the tie bar - just cut off the excess amount of pin with a Dremmel type cutter. A good suggestion from our good friend Stephen re the extra bridge support. I'm getting excited about this build John😊 ! Cheers Euan

    • @exehavenharbour
      @exehavenharbour  9 місяців тому

      Hi Euan, well hopefully the bridge over the tracks will give another added feature and of course another bridge to build! It’s your layout that inspires the cant’s Euan, your trains look magnificent as they traverse the curves and something I’ve wanted since I first saw it on Blackwood.
      As for the points I’m still not sure but I’m leaning towards the other side of the bridge as I think as you say will be less of a problem!
      I’m really glad you’re enjoying it Euan, cheers for now, John

  • @Wickford_N_Gauge
    @Wickford_N_Gauge 9 місяців тому +1

    Greetings Essex and hello John 👋 You were given fantastic advice from the Community 😇helping make the bridge even better 👍 there's so much knowledge out there to learn from 👨‍🎓 Great to see Carpathia again 🤩 its nice to have some different to do away from the layout 🤔 a bit of a bus man's holiday 😉 I bet those struts would have been a task even for Michael at Chandwell 😇 Very best wishes from the other Wickford ☘️

    • @exehavenharbour
      @exehavenharbour  9 місяців тому

      Hi Paul, I think you’re right, Michael would’ve had a hard time with them struts too! I’ve now used some styrene to sure them up a bit so fingers crossed! I’m learning a lot on building the Carpathia, hopefully skills I can use when I build my next ship The Caronia which is a ship more of the period of Exehaven.
      There’s always good advice out there and always happily received, the bridge looks better for the input I’ve had from others.
      Right got to go just off to golf, cheers Paul, John

  • @Elvenhome
    @Elvenhome 9 місяців тому +2

    I really like the way you are planning the track layout and having the lines cross just after the bridges is going to look very good. If you have a 1cm clearance over the roof that is going to be more than enough. I can't remember what you are going to us as point motors but they will usually need to be parallel to the track. If your junction is on the slope you may struggle fitting a point motor underneath. It may be different if you're going with the servos. The Carpathia is looking great and well done on preserving with the thin paper struts. I was just thinking I would use some thin styrene in place of paper when you said the same thing. The bridge looks much better with the seventh pier. I read something a long time ago that humans react better to odd numbers of things and it does look good with the piers balanced around the middle pier. Stephen

    • @exehavenharbour
      @exehavenharbour  9 місяців тому +1

      Hi Stephen, the jury is still out with the points on that slope, I may try it and see how they work, I do have some DCC Concepts point motors and also some Gaugemaster seep motors, I’m hoping where the points are shouldn’t make much difference, nothing will be stuck down until I’m happy.
      There seems to be plenty of clearance where the lines cross and should make a in another nice feature.
      Ohh that Carpathia has been a swine with those thin paper struts. In the end I used some styrene and getting that right was tricky. I’ve moved on a little further and had more struts to deal with but as with everything I’ve learn’t another way to deal with them in a better way. I’m trying to concentrate on the layout but the Carpathia is proving a bit of a distraction!
      Thanks for the solution to the engineering problem and you’re right it looks better with the 7th pier.
      I was hoping to get to do some track laying today, but aging parents have taken up much of my time today, fingers crossed I’ll get some done on Monday.
      Cheers for your support, it much appreciated, John

  • @iansngauge
    @iansngauge 8 місяців тому +1

    Good morning John! Looks like you've made good progress! I didn't realise that the tracks were going to cross each other, so that was a surprise, but it looks like you'll be adding to your bridge building skills in the near future! I must admit that I'm not a fan of points on inclines! On my test track I've got one just at the foot of an incline, and while it hasn't caused any major problems, I wish it was a little further away! Great to see your progress on the Carpathia, and that new bridge support looks like it will keep the structural engineers amongst us happy! Now, just got to take a close look to see if the bridge is bowing! Lol! All the best, Ian. Oh, don't suppose you're planning on visiting the Festival of Railway Modelling at Alexandra Palace in a couple of weeks time?

    • @exehavenharbour
      @exehavenharbour  8 місяців тому +1

      Hi Ian, yes the mainline crosses over so I get two loops as such, the local line will only go round once though. As for the points, I’m so not sure because it’s on the incline. I’ve been told it’s a no no if I put the points on the flat on the other side of the bridge so I’m in a bit of a quandary to be honest. Although I think Ian the flat area would be better🤔🤷🏻‍♂.
      The Carpathia is coming on slowly, I’m trying to prioritise laying track at the moment but finding time is proving difficult!
      As for the bowing we’ll leave it there I think, lol!
      Unfortunately Ian I can’t make to Alexandra Palace as I’m doing something that weekend, it’s absolutely amazing how many shows fall on a weekend I’m doing something!!!
      Looking forward to your next video now,
      Cheers for now mate, John

  • @davidpearce5980
    @davidpearce5980 8 місяців тому +1

    Another great video John, it’s probably been said before, but please be careful with your gradients, try to get them as shallow as possible. Measure the length you have and try to keep it to 1:100 if you can, so a 10mm rise needs a 1.0 m length, easier said than done I know, but you won’t regret it.
    Your 6.0cm mentioned means 6.0m length. Sorry I’m not intentionally teaching you to suck eggs, a fault of mine.
    My offer of the loco still stands, I’m in no rush.
    Dave from N Gauge BROADSTEAD.

    • @exehavenharbour
      @exehavenharbour  8 місяців тому

      Hi Dave, as always thanks for your advice, it has been in my head, I’ve just about got enough room to get it up and down using the 1:100 measurement so hopefully it will work fine.
      I’m definitely interested in the loco, would you email me at exehaven101@aol.com and let me know how much you want for it and perhaps we can arrange something.
      Cheers for now, John

    • @davidpearce5980
      @davidpearce5980 8 місяців тому +1

      I’m pleased you have your head around it now, looks as if it will be really good. See my separate message to you, re the loco.

  • @PiddleInTheMarshbyMarkIreland
    @PiddleInTheMarshbyMarkIreland 9 місяців тому +1

    John, having the cross over the other side of the bridge is a no no, it needs to be part of the main junction.

    • @exehavenharbour
      @exehavenharbour  8 місяців тому

      Hi Mark, ok, although it maybe a necessity due to the space I have. I’m going to test it it though at the main junction to see if those points needed for that work on that slight slope. Hopefully they do as I would prefer it there at the main junction
      Cheers for now, John

  • @nickvdW1958
    @nickvdW1958 8 місяців тому +1

    Great update John, and the extra bridge support really looks the part. I wanted to be nosey about your cabin! Is it just thick solid timber walls? If so does it keep warm, and what thickness are the walls?! I have a project this summer to finally get a much smaller outdoor railway room and looking at options! Only got a space 9' x 5' 6" but want to be warm! 😉 Look forward to the next update. Cheers Nick

    • @exehavenharbour
      @exehavenharbour  8 місяців тому +1

      Hi Nick and thanks, as for the cabin the actual size is 20’ x 10’ which is great for me! The outer walls are 4” thick timbers but both the floor and roof are insulated. I run two small oil filled radiators all winter 24/7 (it isn’t expensive!) and that keeps the cabin just right. When it get’s really cold I have a small fan heater which I run for around 30 minutes which makes the cabin toastie and the warmth lasts for quite sometime.
      Hope that’s helpful Nick, cheers for now, John

    • @nickvdW1958
      @nickvdW1958 8 місяців тому +1

      Hi John, thanks for the comprehensive reply, certainly food for thought! I'll do some research and see what I can find. 🙂👍 Alas I can't squeeze in a 20 x 10 without taking down the neighbours fence 🤣

    • @exehavenharbour
      @exehavenharbour  8 місяців тому

      🤣👍

  • @petert9749
    @petert9749 9 місяців тому +1

    Hmm; might be an idea to redesign out that 'S' bend near the corner of the green mat (1min 15 sec about). I wonder how I know???

    • @exehavenharbour
      @exehavenharbour  8 місяців тому

      Hi Peter, sounds like you’ve had some problems! Nothing has been tested yet and no track stuck down so, if it doesn’t work well then I’ll revisit that spot. Thanks for your input and highlighting a potential problem, cheers for now, John

    • @petert9749
      @petert9749 8 місяців тому +1

      Greetings John. I made comment partly as I believe if we viewers do not participate the format fails.
      A (then) kid I know thought he was taking a corner on a wet road; the car did what things, including our trains, naturally do,and continued in a straight line. No injuries. As I understand it, every change of direction involves an acceleration. With our curves the rails push against the wheels of the train toward the centre of the curve. At the start of the curve, whether at a turnout blade or the junction of a straight section and the first of a curve, there is a jolt at the start of the acceleration. It is like a billiard cue hitting the rail toward the curve centre. The tendency is for the train to ‘jump’ the track as it continues in a straight line. No wonder they come off. I mentioned transitions; think of them as mollify the jolt. I smell a rat whenever the track plan is not smooth; that’s what my eye picked up on. There is a section of flex and points on my 39 year old moisture warped layout that I am tempted to re-do with home made turnouts. It worked for years, but now not so (wheel standard also involved, but that’s another story). No arrivable geometry from flex or set-track sources will provide smoothness; no shock forces. For me probably better to start again. You are in, effect, already starting again.
      Even if the trains do not derail as things are transitions will help your trains run better; and the effect of smooth, geometry is so much easier on the eye. Up to you; you’ve got to want it.
      It is easily argued that the ‘interpretation’ of set geometry track is too literalistic. What we often get is a slavish transliteration of some set geometry track. Set geometry track is probably best viewed as an aid, not as an enclosure with bars; it should set us free.
      Certainly, put a straight between turnouts and turnouts, and between the ends of curves and turnouts. THEN replace the last two or so sections of a curve and the first two or so sections of the straight they lead into with a transition curve. Make your own from flex with the same rail code. In effect you have made your own section of track. Easy.
      Hope this reads OK (if anyone reads it); hope it stirs participation and criticis; hope the science is right; hope it encourages thought; hope someone enjoys. Time for me to shutup!
      All the best John.
      @@exehavenharbour

    • @exehavenharbour
      @exehavenharbour  8 місяців тому

      Wow Peter! Now that’s a reply, let’s see how things develop as the weeks go by, it is really good to hear from you, cheers, John