Re-ordering the aristocracy
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2013
- Although the law on Royal succession has been changed to allow Kate and William's new baby to inherit the throne, regardless of whether it's a boy or a girl - that's not true for the aristocracy. Now some are calling for reform.
Fulford attended Sunningdale School in Berkshire, but failed the common entrance exam for Eton, so instead attended Milton Abbey School in Dorset. After leaving there, he did not go on to any higher education.[7] At 18 he started a career with the Coldstream Guards, but failed the Army Officer Selection Board exam and so left after nine months. He travelled to Australia to work as a jackaroo, but soon returned to Britain, re-taking (and again failing) the Army Officer Selection Board exam,[7] before moving to London to work as a stockbroker and insurance broker.[1] Since inheriting the family estate he has devoted himself to its management, though it is in need of restoration and currently (according to his many television appearances) in a state of severe debt.....
He sounds far from competent to me
In 2007 he attempted a move into local politics, standing for a seat on Teignbridge District Council as a member of the Conservative Party. He was defeated, gaining 370 votes out of an electorate of 2215.[12] In all previous local elections, the Conservative Party candidate(s) had been elected easily. The Teign Valley is currently (2020) represented by two Conservative Party councillors on the Teignbridge District Council.[13]
As of 2014 Fulford was a member of the UK Independence Party.[14]
hilarious
The old fool has failed at everything except showing who he really is... and absolutely incompetant knob.
The property would not have fallen so far if his elder sister had inherited instead.
@@jessicathompson236 absolutely
Well done for being able to copy and paste wiki , you bell end .
It makes no sense, if a woman can inherit the whole country as a Queen then a daughter can inherit an estate.
no
"Everybody knew the SCAAAAAAW!"
Lol 😂
And the instant he said that, his eyes started heading down towards her cleavage. Eurkgh...
😂😂😂
Lol
The British are a very entertaining people.
No ..A group of ..INTER BREEDS ..
@@jamesharris2073 True...and of all countries.
Aristocracy certainly doesn't breed intelligence.
I delight at the patience I've learned and acquired, for if you wait long enough - they will open their mouth and serve themselves their just -
Truly Priceless.
Beth Bartlett what did he say that makes you think he is not intelligent? Genuine question.
Well they are all cousins… for hundreds of years
Francis Fulford is so wonderfully ghastly.
Lord, they might have gotten him from Central Casting.
Thankfully not all nobility is like this .Tradition is important and should be protected but some traditions are just pointless and need change.
@@Valencetheshireman927 Francis Fulford is not a member of the nobility ( probably why he's got such a chip on his shoulder) hes a member of the landed gentry. Granted his family have been landed gentry for centuries. But to be a noble you must have a title. I get the feeling that the lack of a title really pisses poor old Francis off, hence the fact that he makes such an issue of not giving a toss about it.... and is so completely gastly. There are many very old families with fine estate about but few as gastly as poor old Francis!
loool
And as thick as the proverbial porcine excreta
The best thing about the Fulfords is that it's clearly the daughter who has 99% of the brains in the family.
Apparently not enough brains to notice the obvious contradiction between her supposed egalitarianism and her desire to be entitled to inherit a hereditary title of nobility.
@@thegoodlydragon7452 exactly, the doublethink going on here is outrageous
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Absolutely....
That's still not much.
He's like a skit come to life!!
He sounds exactly like Tim Nice But Dim!
Had a reality TV show years ago called the F’ing Fulfords hilarious
@Angello Rivera-Hurtado you mean £££ lol
I believe that for much of the aristocracy, male inheritance is crucial so the family name stays associated with the estate. If a woman inherits the estate and doesn't have her husband take her name (which will never happen in aristocracy) the ancestral name is no longer connected to that estate.
Kinda like the Queen didnt take Prince Phillips surname, right..?
Totally. If a lesbian married, kept her name, had a son, then fine. But a regular old straight lady? Nah.
@@jungefrau the maybe the rule should be that for women inheriting property or whatever else, she should be the one to pass down her surname to her kids.
Actually I think it did happen with the Percy family (the Dukes of Northumberland).
It's also about concentrating the wealth and estate with one person so the property doesn't get carved up overtime :)
Even if his opinions are sincere, I can't help but feel like his demeanor is a deliberate charicature for his own amusement.
Amusement, but also probably part of a money making scheme. Being in a documentary gets you paid, and he has repeatedly mentioned it.
"We must end this inequality and entitlement!"
"Okay, so no aristocracy at all then."
"No, not like that!"
All that needs to be done, is let the daughters keep their maiden name when married, and pass that name onto their children.
There's more to it than being sexist. These large estates have potentially been in the same family for hundreds of years. Women will usually take on the name of her husband. This is a normal thing to do. If a woman then inherits her father's estate, the estate becomes the property of another family. The aristocracy want to keep there estates within the family, as would I. This is a major reason why it's preferred that the eldest son inherits the estate even if he has older sisters.
Matriachy. Then make the husbands take on wifey's name.
Aidan The Lover Boy O'Dwyer you can't make. Its a tradition. And you can't pressure people to force them to do otherwise. Why can't you leave the tradition be
That was fine in the 18th century when women married at 16 and procreated until they usually died. Often they had in excess of 15 children and 7 might survive.
@@AidanTheLoverBoyOhDwyer >let the people most vulnerable to propaganda rule
Yeah that's really working out isn't it?
There's no law anywhere in the UK that a wife MUST take the husband's name.
Our friend Mr Fulford has a wiff of Bertie Wooster about him. Brilliant!
Fulford’s sooooo fucking funny. I always roll on the floor laughing at his face when he's talkiing. His reality show was a real hoot. One really got to see he's actually quite adorable and all that big talk is for attention. He's like a manchild, who never grew up internally. You can pause him anywhere and his face will crack you up.
You can pause him anywhere!!!!🤣🤣🤣👌🏻
Francis Fulford needs his own show.
He did it was called ‘F*cking Fulfords’ enjoy😂
@@vQueeen thoroughly enjoyed it and want more!
@@strictlyyoutube6881 life is Toff and Fulford in the USA
I thought the show suggestion was a joke! It’s real!!!! 😮😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
It’s been 3 years since commenting this and have watched everything he has been in. I’m absolutely addicted and thinking of renting a room in his house.
Sir Fulford is hillarious, I demand more filler pieces from channel 4 with Fulford !!!!
Indeed !
he actually did a reality show with his family. its up here on youtube!
Hes not a sir
@@ageofechochambers9469 I just knighted him !
@@manudehanoi 😂😂💁🏻♀️
If Fulford is so landed why can't he get his eyebrows done and his teeth fixed?
kevin murphy
Presumably he stays true to the rather traditional english appearance.
+kevin murphy Barely has any money most likely, honestly the upkeep on places like this is astronomical so all of the money that comes in will go to fixing the roof etc.
The Queen Mother was much better off than him and her teeth were terrible.
Asset rich but liquid poor.
His grandfather gambled away most of the money and now thay are essentially broke
Unless the estate will become completely lost with no male heir otherwise, I really think the law should stay the same.
The point is that daughters of the nobility will invariably marry other aristocrats with property. Non-inherenting sons are less desirable and usually end up in the military or clergy. Since women will always be taken care of, just because they're women, and men are left to fend for themselves, then it would be fairer for sons to inherit over daughters.
Mujangga Women as well can be in situations where they have to fend for themselves.
+Mujangga I disagree, women will NOT always be 'taken care of', and may in fact not want to be.
Mujangga Underrated Comment. The issue is that they have worked to dismantle the half of the traditions that saw to the maintenance of women, and now complain that the traditions which see to the maintenance of men don't include them.
Actually, men have been known to take their wife's name through out history.
Little Dikkins In Germany (of course it *is* Germany!) the law allows a married couple to decide if they would use his name or her name, keep on using their own names or make a double name of the two as their family name.
When a couple keep on using their own names the children decide for themselves later what their surname is to be and till then parents give either of their names for school purposes etc. But of a mess there of course with school leaving certificates and sense of personal identity linked to name...
Some men do take the wife's name, more go for the double option, a few more go the separate name route but nevertheless the majority are still with the 'woman changes to the man's name' system.
Somebody call Monty Python: One of their upper crust twits has escaped!
"Yes, he's now going to shoot himself in the head...."
He is quite articulate. Definitely not stupid
shadowkitty56 legit what I thought of!
@@cornstar1253 he is stupid but that’s his charm. Don’t be deceived by the accent.
The problem for the son is he is going to have to get a job to pay for repairs. Has anyone explained that to him
Sharing from my own family's traditions, the men always inherit what's owned by their fathers and the woman inherit what's belong to their mothers. This become complicated because it's my great-grandmother who's rich, she have three son and only one daughter (my grandmother) and the daughter only have one son (my father). After my Grandmother passed away, some of my female cousins are claiming my father's inheritance, even when they are not the direct descendants of a woman (they're the descendants of my Grandmother's brothers).
Could you say that again !
mmm if it follows the gender, they technically cant do that because they are trying to inherit from a man an not the woman.
@@dingleberryridesagain3606 I know. It confused me alot🤞😵😵😵
@@bananaentos4294 I understood it fine, just read it over again it will make sense
All hail francis fuldord. It's men like him that still allow England to hold any sense of heritage and pride. Like the earl of montagu or the earl of sandwich and Biggy manor. There are many to look up to and say bravo, you held the fort together and held on to some sense of pride and succession.
Wasn't the reason for primagenature(sp?) to keep the family castle/home in tact so that future generations with the "family" name - not the daughters married name in tact with the titles and lands ?? The inheritance taxes are a crime as well....
towrnghrybear thank you exactly - so many silly comments on here.
Sometimes the female would marry and children of that marriage would keep the wife's maiden name. Look up the Percy's for that.
An unbiased study of history will show an "open-minded" observer that the institution of "kingdoms" and "governments" stems from semi-ancient criminal endeavors. Unless one concludes that raiding, pillaging and masacering villages is only an old way of doing business.
@@mtngrl5859 that's not the case for the Percy's, they were going extinct that's why the husband took the name it was to save the family name that had been there for over 750 years .
Not all of these family that important historically for the husband to change the name
Fyi this wasnt the 1st time a non percy had taken the name the Male line died in medieval times.
"king Charles II" was the best example of why that practice is irresponsible. He literally could not even take care of himself, yet the king still passed over his Eldest child, and gave the crown to his son.
They literally ended their own lineage, because they thought boys were more important.
These historical family estates have lasted as long as they have due to how they've been ran. This generation cries about everything! Females within these families aren't complaining so why are you?
Well said. If it ain't broke why fix it, just to appease a few whingers
Why not equality for all the children? I am a direct descendant of the first Duke of Norfolk and Henry Plantagenet along with many other people watching this and not knowing where they come from. The truth is that many of these aristocrats do not inherit money but a burden. If the property were sold off many art collections would be broken up and sold off to American billionaires who do not appreciate art and see it as a store of wealth they can humiliate others less wealthy. What matters is the estate is kept together.
Well why change the line of succession to female also? If you change things then why even keep tradition at all? Male heirs keep the family name in place.
So just make the law that the person with the superior title passes on their name, and people of equal title hyphenate their names.
Even the dog wasn't going to take commands from his lordship... speaks volumes.
That is so funny that they showed her gardening in high heels no less
It is absolutely astonishing how old fashioned the English can be. The fact that this tradition has not already changed is absolutely bewildering. The Royal succession was changed in most European countries long before it was in England, a bit strange since some of the most successful British rulers throughout history have been women. Also the comment; why ditch tradition? is really silly. Not all traditions are good, who would want to bring back slavery or legalize female genital mutilation for example?
It keeps the money in the family. That is how the Aristocracy has survived in the U.K.
I had, until viewing this video, thought that the Monty Python et al. depiction of 'the upper class twit' was to some extent a fiction.
You really need to check out the reality show that they did of this family some years back; "The F*****g Fulfords". It's on UA-cam.
most of the upper class aren't like this
@Angelo River most don't lol. This guy is pretty extreme.
I feel bad for the girl they probably have dream to pursue but now they have obligations to do.
Women can inherit England and Scottish peerages, but not Great Britain, United Kingdom and Irish peerages.
There aren't enough male aristocrats with property or estates for all of the children of the aristocracy to hold them any more. All of them have to work either at a regular job or on the Family Estate to prevent it becoming a crumbling pile which drains the money away very quickly. A title is burden rather than a benefit these days anyway. One of the male's said Titles don't get you perks like they did before unless your the Senior Member of the Royal Family.
7 years ago a man of little report by the grand accord of things came forth as one who would adorn the crown of king. He was of mellow character but with drive, forethought, and thought things through to a charitable end. He was of little, poor and drought but excited for what he knew his future would hold. His name;
Benjamin J Goulet
2:03 Right there. That petulant display of unearned entitlement elicits in me a profound sense of disgust. I can only imagine that it was a similar revulsion that caused people to start revolutions and break away from the British Empire. As an American, I am proud to live in a country which has never allowed this degree of inherited aristocracy.
This is why estate taxes are essential. It is important to reward those who do great deeds and who serve their nations and economies. Additionally, there should be a general freedom to give to whomever you want, including to your children. However, when this wealth is passed down unchecked through the generations, eventually the family becomes a corrupt, disgusting shell of the greatness it once represented. To retain their privileges, the family members should continually be the most productive and honorable members of society. Otherwise, if they do nothing productive and just sit on their wealth, then they have done nothing to deserve their rewards. Estate taxes allow these unproductive families to die a slow, natural death, and for the wealth to eventually flow to those more deserving. If not, the wealth remains locked up with those least able to actually do something useful with it.
Unfortunately, the natural progression of unbridled capitalism in the U.S. means that, increasingly, wealth is concentrating into smaller and smaller segments of the population. The Forbes 400 list is increasingly made up of inherited wealth.
So thank you, Mr. Fulford. May your arrogant display serve as a cautionary tale to us in the U.S. so that we may never end up with cancerous tumors such as you.
Amen sister!
radishpineapple74 Yes the trouble with that is that French aristocratic officers devised the plan that saved The Americans in The War of Independence.
Lol….but we had mad Donald Trump and now sleepy Joe……😂…🇺🇸
You sound like a commie.
Fulford, wonderful man, brilliant.
In a Spanish family the oldest male child inherits all,.. everything. This meant me; being the only male child of four. Until my eldest sister called me one day three years ago to inform me that, ... she will inherit it all, as well as make all family major decisions and if I had any issue with it; ...TOUGH ! I simply said after a few shocked seconds,...ok.
As an spaniard I can tell you that what you’ve said isn’t true at all.
@@gdp1248 I said "Spaniard" not Porta'Rican !!
I’m just waiting for Gervais to pop up somewhere. This has to be a joke. The editing is hilarious😂
It looks like Feminist Editing to me!
Francis looks like a harry Enfield character
it is a family issue... it is now one elses fucking business..
It's the constant breaking of traditions that's got this country in the mess it's in now. Fair play to him I say. It's a family thing so keep your noses out.
people need to understand that it's not inequality but about the keeping the family name or title with the estate
+daniel harrhy Then change the rules so women don't have to take a man's name on marriage.
Vermillion 303 noone "has" to you imbecile.
Francis Fulford I salute you Sir
Why don't the girls just bring a lawsuit??
I get why they want to keep the tradition. If I was in their situation I wouldn’t want it to change either
I can see both sides of this argument, women do deserve to inherit estates and titles, but on the other hand, then it changes names to the husband of them and the estate would technically change hands and families. I think it should be, whom ever is the Lord or Lady of said estate, can pick which child they want to inherit the estate and title.
Does anyone know whatever happened to the bill? Did it pass?
If this isn't a perfect argument against inherited wealth then there isn't one. What a bunch of wasted spacers
What is the song used in the video please?
I wish i was born into this wealth...feels bad man . If i had all this land and wealth, i would sell it for cash or turn into tourist attraction and be super profitable for another 10 generations...Also travel the world and have a house in every continent. Also occasionally go naked in middle of london, why not, I F****NG RULE!
I cannot stand the Tudors and Anne Boleyn. My family tree supports Richard II, whose throne was usurped, and Richard III, whose throne also was usurped.
great piece
“Squeaky Females” 😂😂
"What could have been her birthright in an equal world" ... in an equal world, we'd all receive the same inheritance, regardless of parentage.
This is what we call the trouble of the rich people !!!
It’s hilarious to me that Francis speaks of the work it take to hold property but in reality he is simply a lazy alcoholic who couldn’t protect anyone from any threat.
5:38 How is Anne Boleyn her ancestor when her only daughter Elizabeth the first died a virgin & childless?
Ann Boleyn was the daughter of a Howard mother her grandfather was Duke of Norfolk her uncle the next duke plotted to get her married to Henry VIII and then when it went pear shaped he was the judge who sentanced her to death he's lady Tessa's direct ancestor Ann Boleyn is her distant cousin.....
@@endajordan4406 or someone fudged the records to say that someone is an ancestor, it's been done before.
@@endajordan4406 so that makes her have common ancestry with Ann boleyn not her ancestor .
@@ageofechochambers9469 indeed
Because the male to female ratio has seemed to be less males more females in most aristocratic families, therefore in Royal and aristocratic families this limits who can inherit. Actually making it easier to decide who gets the wealth and estate in times bygone. for example take Rhodri Mawr of Wales if all his descendants were eligible you wouldn't be able to decide who has the right? It also is tradition which many Brits like to keep,
The Royal Succession only inherits the titles with the income from the duchy of cornwall, it is a different issue when in comes to inheriting estates.
Do you really expect me feel sorry for any of these people, male or female? Some girl grows up well fed, healthy, well educated in private schools and university, well traveled, more life opportunities that 99% of people - male or female- can look forward to, and I'm expected to think of her as some downtrodden victim of social injustice because she doesn't get to be next in line to be a tax-subsidized museum curator?? FFS......
The guy reminds me of "Nice but Dim" from Harry Enfield
01:54 watching this in 2019... funny how they haven't made a tent city outside his house yet!
You have to watch "Country house rescue" episode about this family, and house problems, it's really impressive... They wouldn't be successful, wouldn't change anything.
The question that must be asked is this. How they are doing it? Where are the details? What procedures and methodologies and techniques they are using? Where are the listings of the components and networks of this socio-economic process and how they are linked together and how do they function and work together to hoard the American Dream? And once you have studied the opposition-enemy then you must by now, know then on how to create counter-measures to neutralize their dream hoarding actions and activities and organizations and organizational set ups, etc. Sun Tzu says: Know thy enemy and know thyself, and in a hundred battles you will never be in peril.
Francis Fulford has the stereotypical Englishman to a tee.
Hes French lol
Inheritance by son rather than daughter may be arbitrary, but so is inheritance by the oldest rather than the youngest or middle child. Both are based solely on tradition, like the rest of the bloodline inheritance system, so why dispute the former while taking the latter for granted? I suspect this isn't as much about erasing arbitrary norms as it is about pandering to the latest trend.
I'm pretty sure the male hereditary thing is to keep the family name as its customary to take the males name in marriage. Although there are many exceptions out side of "Nobility" I can't recall one in "Noble" history.
It was to keep the name and the property together. The sticking point was not even the name or title, but to keep the family land and wealth together to pass down to the next generation. That's why the male inherited the whole kit and caboodle in ye olden times, and left any extraneous siblings, male or female, out in the cold.
@@marshatolbert154 that's what I'm saying in dumber terms
@@marshatolbert154 also why younger siblings did military or higher educational vocations
@@trapadvisor2258 or the priesthood
By the protagonist’s demeanor and reasoning, his opinion is negligible. As a lord, I must admit, that is scary for the future of the UK. Moreover, I wonder: is his intelligence and foolishness stem from the fact he is a lord. His male issue seems to confirm wisdom runs with female line.
That silly squeaky presenter will get a slap if she’s not careful
I think in order to inkeep with the family tradition and true name of these places, you can't give the inheritance to a female who will later marry and inherit the husbands name, then you'll have something along the lines of Great Fulford estate and house belonging to Lady Smith? Doesn't work for me.
It’s not mandatory to take the husband’s name. In many cultures, it isn’t even the custom. And it’s not legally mandated for women to change their name upon marriage. And some aristocrats do have double barreled surnames. However, it is ironic trying to modernize an anachronistic institution.
Francis Fulford's lack of tact is absolutely insuferable.
I like it.
Lord Fulford, hang in there. We love you in the United States. You have a large fan base. What would we do without posh, Eton educated men, with a great sense of humour.
He just slamed Rothschild in that interview.
They always seem to wheel out Mr Fulford whenever they want a cheap shot at the nobility
" I WAS BORN WITH F#CK ALL , AND GOT MOST OF IT STILL LEFT ".
The male should always inherit the estate or throne.. A woman joins her husbands family when she marries. Prince Phillip had it roughtas did Prince Albert.. Imagine not be able to give your children your name.....
He is getting to be rather a bore, the furniture he tried to sell on the box the other day , was rather pathetic !
Why marry, why change one's last name, why keep redundant traditions? Hangovers of the past handbrake progress, this being a prime example of human rights not reaching full potential.
Only question is, whose surname should offspring assume, maybe a mathematical model will demonstrate generational patterns?
His great uncle Sir Platypus Orinoco Flagstaff Fulford was at an occasion at our pile with Sir Dickie Stickapopple and were served with a full Skillet of Tripe n Onions by a rather well developed Skullery maid, well now Platypus himself was quite in his cups!!one can only imagine !!needless to say Sir Dickie made a full frontal beside the staircase which was rebuffed by the trainee Equerry,now a full Colonel in the Grenadairs, poor Dickie was escorted out of the way and Platypus ejected and stripped of his titles, unfortunate,,no title passed down !! Family tradition blames it on those awful Argyles !!!!! No Breeding !!
Why? that's the point of tradition . If you divide the money between children there won't be any left. I still believe the oldest son should receive the title.
This is changing as men started taking on their wives names if they have famous or generational wealth associated names. It will take time but it will change the moment the custom of name changing is not according to gender but according to power and wealth.
yes Anne Boleyn had Elizabeth I, but she had to fight to keep her crown, and afterwards Elizabeth had no children. She left the throne to the Stuarts and in only 2 generations, England was plunged into a civil war
Well well well. Terribly frightful predicament. Oh me oh my so hope we can keep up to sorts! Here here and all that.
Them thinking they're better because there's more of them! That's not sweat on their palms, it's envy. It's resentment!
I hate to see all those beautiful roses being cut 5:14 from the garden just to put in a vase. Such a shame. I just let mine be beautiful in the garden where all the bees can enjoy them and they give off that beautiful eroma if the breeze is calm.
You could just adopt gavelkind like the germans and split the estates between the children, but the argument comes down to keeping the land in the family which is why they do it the way they do which was a strategy of consolidating power in the family over generations. If the point is developing family power then it's the way to go, if the point in equal rights just do what we Americans did.
After Scotland leaves the UK I hope it becomes a republic.
Haha
I think the only real reason it is important is to keep all the family property in the family name.
Quick fix - allow the daughter to inherit with condition that when she marries her husband takes her family name.
Fulford is being used to sway mechanism.
Fulford needs a tv character.
Did anyone catch the white power symbol flashed by young Fulton holding the broken down shotgun?
"So your children are doing something out there?"
"Yeahh"
"With a... shotgun?"
"Probly"
I can't believe these ppl still exist! It's the year 2018 and the Brits still haven't caught up with the French.
Off with Lady Balfour's head. She didn't put out properly.
I love francis fuldord the 1st. They should make a multi season show on him. He is so so so funny. I love the guy.
This world actually makes me laugh so much honestly I hate the government and everything what comes with it. Corruption 💯
Allowing reform will only help to protect the longevity of entitlement.