Exactly my type of review. There's gaming review, comparison, including music review.... It's a full package. Now waiting for the KZ PR2 review. I want it to be the best for gaming
glad to see you're still responding to comments. I was unsure about blues vs reds but seeing as you're still sticking with the blues over a year later, I'm confident in picking them over the reds. Thanks for the review!
Let's hope the QC is a lot better here than on the original Zeros (probably not) Also, if you're gonna be showing more graphs in future videos, might I recommend clearer colors differentiating the IEMS on the graph? Great stuff seeing graphs now in these IEM reviews even if they mean nothing to us gamers!
@@flashjor98 The first pair I got from Amazon had one side completely die out and then the second pair I'm using currently has a loose 2 pin connector port because the glue got loose or something
original zero sounded too thin/shouty for me to use it with music so I'm glad to see this one isn't too far behind the original for gaming purposes probably going to give the blue zero to a friend as their first iem. also for anyone having trouble with the big nozzle I would recommend spinfit cp 155 tips
are there any tips you'd recommend that have that Apple ear buds shape? I've tried a couple IEM but always had to return cuz every time no matter what size they'd start hurting my ears like crazy or just fall out. I've been using apple ear buds for years now and find that shape fits my ears best
@@tekniik I think maybe the Nothing Earbuds might fit that criteria? Im not really a IEM savant but thats the closest thing I can think of. Hope theres a store near you to try it out
I use the cp 145 Spinfits. They're cheap, and come with 3 pairs. They're great for the Zeroes. I don't even notice the shoutiness with em. Quick tip. When i used a smaller size tip, it sounded shouty because I didn't get a proper seal, and even the bass was leaking out. With the medium size, for me it is a perfect seal. Now I find it super bassy and not at all shouty anymore.
There is a new Dunu kima classic. As I looked into the graph, it has slightly more bass than the og version. Wondering it is will worth in term of gaming. Hope to see you testing it out 😊
Hey Fresh, thanks for the review! I just bought the OG one a few days ago and couldn't believe it when I heard they dropped a new model lmao. Good to know the OG is still better for competitive gaming, as that was the main reason why I bought it.
Would love to see a trn ta1 max and kz x hbb pr2 review, these 2 are the only budget iems on the market that could take the crown of og truthear zero for gaming, i legit can't wait till you get your hands on them 🌷
What pisses me the most is the stupidly wide nozzle so if you have small ear canals it can be problem for longer session. In my case, first hours were painful but I am slowly getting used to them, probably will look for some 3rd party ear tips.
What type of setting did you use for the blue/OG? like is it connected to onboard audio, or external amp/dac, do you play on stereo or? And with some eq? I feel like for me with my dac/amp in stereo and even with some virtual surround they play very loud and also to much base, so i have to do some eq for the low end and some soundlock to dampen the louder sounds. In general i prefer some type of virtual surround. Plain stereo to me just sound to narrow/in my head, for gaming. For music they are fine.
I really like your approach for reviewing iems in a gaming scenario, appreciate the work you put into these reviews. Any chance you will review KZ HBB PR2? would like to know if that set is any good for gaming purposes. Many thanks and keep up the good work!
Good watch! I am playing Warzone 2 with the Beyerdynamic DT 900 Pro X that you recommended, but I also bought these OGs. I can't tell which I like better for footsteps....which tips do you like better on the tips? Tips with the smaller hole or the bigger hole?
In the video it says the Zero blue is better at directional cues but I can't speak from experience. I do have the Zero Reds and I've tried it with R6 and it was really difficult to pinpoint even just the footsteps of players. Even my KZ ZVX gave more info.
While it definitely doesn't look like an upgrade to the original for gaming, would you recommend the Red or the original for someone who has neither? My main use case is gaming, but of course I also listen to music and other stuff regularly. My main game (Overwatch) also has a lot going on at the same time, and missing any audio queue can be bad.
He lays it out in the review. Both good for gaming (ranked 1 and 2 in his list in the description) but red is better for music. From there you’ll have to make your decision
I think you should look for something else as i tried the og zero with overwatch and it was too shouty and crowded i felt lost. I think headphones are still the best for competitive gaming and sennheiser 560s is the best for overwatch.
Anyone in the comments got the DT 900 Pro x on Fresh's recommendation? I have them on order just hoping they're a good all-rounder and not just for gaming, seen a few mixed reviews.
hey, i was really wondering if i could use the crin zero OG with my DAC dragonfly black 1.5 or would it make it worse? :o great review btw love the gaming focused approach as well as the music listening aspects!
Hello, I'm having a good deal on the Zero Red, but I was finding the Zero OG as your recommendation. So I want to ask you should I go for the Zero Red? I mainly play Valorant, only at the rank Asc. Thank you so much.
Fresh, What do you recommend for VR gaming, I have the og zero and i hate it, can you recommend something for game immersion while also good for imaging. I watched all your videos and i can't decide between Dunu kima, Raptgo hook x, kiwi orchestra lite and Quartet.
Hoping you could shed some light on this. I have the astro a50s that i use for apex. Love the headset, tired of wearing it though. Is there an iem setup that is comparable or better than the overall sound of the a50?
The stage on the kima is probably closer to you but the directional audio on both is great. When you allow your brain to adapt to the added warmth on the Kima they perform very well and I like them a lot.
nice! i got the OG Crinacle Zero a few weeks ago thanks to your input and they fit great with stock medium tips (ngl i feel like the controversy regarding the "wider than usual" stem is massively overblown, my ears are tiny btw). Would you say the moondrop LAN is in your TOP 3 below $60?? my friend wants to get into IEMs but he could not stand my Zero after just a few minutes (again i do feel the wide stem issue is overblown anyway but he did say it wasn't too comfy for him) so perhaps the LAN would be a nice compromise? mostly gaming and YT videos btw, he barely listens to music.
That’s interesting. I got the og zeros early on in my iem journey and I didn’t love the wide nozzles. Now they feel great in my ears. I think you just get used to wearing iems after a while
This video was just what I was looking for. Super informative. I’m planning to buy one of these tomorrow as my first IEMs, I just have a question. How much “worse” are the Reds compared to Blues for gaming? Like, I’m just a casual gamer so I don’t care that much about being competitive. I also listen to a lot of music so that’s why I was going with the REDs. But everyone says I should get the blues if my main focus is gaming and I just can’t decide. How close the Reds come to the blues with the impedance adapter?
think to yourself, what do you spend more time on? gaming or listening to music? if gaming is your answer then go for the blues. if listening to music is your answer then go for the reds. either way you can't go wrong
I bought those headphones and was super excited since my old pair died(one ear stopped working). However, after using them for a bit I feel very disappointed. I'm not an expert or audiophile but my previous pair SoundMagic e80 sounded significantly better. The sound in Zero Reds seems to be so dry, the gunshots lack depth. I can barely understand what's happening on the map when I'm playing CS2, and that wasn't an issue with e80 at all. And I have to press them so hard in my ear at least to get some quality but it still sucks. It kinda feels like a waste of money.
@@FreshReviewsYT yes, I haven't even tried it without it. There's enough bass when I listen to music, but the regular sounds I'm used to in games seem very dry and sharp. Like I shoot a shotgun with e80 and I can feel that that rich satisfying sound with perfect amount of depth, same with AWP or Deagle. It's pleasant to ears. I can play this sound on my iphone speakers and it will be very similar. But with Zero Reds it's suddenly very sharp and pitched idk how to explain this better. I feel like it's played at different frequency. If I max the volume I can perfectly tolerate the shooting sound with e80, but with Truthear it is actually painful.
Exactly the review I was looking for man thanks, I'll stick with the OG, though, I might be looking for an amp, don't you think the sound lacks of power/volume, even at 100% ???
Hey man great video! I know you get this a lot but I enjoy my music and I also love gaming would the impedance adapter be good enough let’s say for valorant or csgo for footsteps would appreciate it!
Will you review koss ksc75? Many people are hyping them for gaming. Would be nice to hear from someone reliable who has tried many iems and see of they would make your budget list
@Fresh Reviews, thanks for your review, was hoping you'd review this. Without the impedance adapter, how would you compare the Zero Red to the TKZK Ouranos in terms of gaming? I realize that the Ouranos aren't on your recommended list, but you seemed to give it an OK. I'm looking in this price range and do more music listening / movie watching than gaming, but want something great for everything. These 2 are at the top of my list right now.
Hi Fresh ! First of all, I like all the reviews ! I mainly play apex as competitive as I can and I was shocked when I discovered you and all reviews related to this game. I purchased my Truthear zero and HD 560s with your vids ! Anyway I’d like to know your points on IEM as I saw a lot of reviews saying I should have them with Dolby Atmos performance mode. What’s your thought on that ? Do you play stereo, default settings on headphone AND IEM ? Thanks a lot !
What are your thougts and comparation betwen 560s and truth zeros ? Whitch ones do you use more and are they anywhere close to each other bcz of price ? I want to order zeros and later on to upgrade on 560s if there is point for an upgrade?
I feel like I’ve seen a bunch of your videos and they’re so good. Coming from the 900prox is there a specific iem under 300 you’d recommend for all around good music and gaming like the 900x? Thanks man also sorry it’s kinda vague. I love the sound of the 900x and the arias seems to be lacking when I tried them in comparison
@@FreshReviewsYT Significaly better or just slightly? Are the hexas better if i use it mainly for gaming but also with iphone for music and podcasts? Any replys much apreciated!
@@FreshReviewsYT Also what do you think about AutoEq and the tuning that people provide for products like the hexa like crinacle? Do you think they are bad or good and if it could negativly impact the hexas gaming experience/any product on autoeq
Hey there Fresh! Not sure if you'll see this but do you have a list or what would you recommend as best for gaming in the 100 to 150 USD range? Thanks!
Thank you for your insights Fresh. Now I've watched most of your IEM reviews, and I narrowed it down to the Moondrop Aria and the Truthear Zero OG/RED. However, I still can't decide which to choose from the two as my main use for it will be for competitive gaming like Valorant and CS:GO. Music is second (although it's still a priority to me). Any suggestions?
I want to buy "Truthear x crinacle zero" but it doesn't have a microphone i need to use comms because of my teammates 😢😢😢 i want it so bad but doesn't have....
My 10 cents here: I use the OG zeros for gaming, they simply work amazing and better for it, clarity and positioning with good immersion. I use the Reds to listen to music and watch movies, they are GOD like for that purpose, since you can rock full volume and enjoy the entirety of it. The Reds for gaming are nice, but the positioning, the 3d, are not there compared to the OG. Only use if the game is not competitive.
Would I be happy with these for gaming coming from a beyerdynamic dt 990pro? Wanna try and make a switch to IEMs for the hype and also because I have long hair 🤣
I like to play Valorant and Apex while listening to music on low volume. What would you recommend me? I really wanna hear footsteps but still enjoy music. So far I have been using the Razer Blackshark V2. I just cant decide if I should get the Blue or Red version.
Need something with a mic man cant be bothered to get a mic setup :( might have to go with the FinalVR3000. Any recommendation else within similar budget with mic would be helpful. Thanks
Which one shall I choose from The OG Blue Zero or the new Zero Red or the Truthhear Hexa for mainly Gaming purposes with occasional movie watching on my PC
Hey bro I have og zero hooked up to my goxlr mini, I play warzone I don’t know why but gunshots are extremely loud and all other audio is barely noticeable any idea how I can fix or should I order another pair?
So I haven’t tested them unfortunately on warzone or on a goxlr. You may need to play around with the sound settings in warzone. Studio reference etc. also keep windows settings off like any spatial audio etc
I made the exact same switch a few months ago. I definitely prefer the Zeros. The imaging and depth perception is leagues better than the shp9500. They also sound better for music imo
what should i get for playing fps games xenns mangrid trop or the Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite or also can you get into detail why you would pick this one and how much better is it would love to hear from you please thank you in advice
Hi Fresh, i just got a pair of Red. And it doesnt work probably when i plug it into the pc through 3.5mm (really muddy and only 70% of volume). Then i bought a 10$ soundcard that convert 3.5mm to usb-a which is working fine now. Can u suggest a budget AMp for gaming around 50$? Love ur content alot, cuz im an Apex-only player🥰
Gawd, my curiosity to just A/B these with my OG Crin-Zero....I so wanna do it. When's that damn pad coming Fresh? HUH? Gonna end up spending my dimes here....woof. Luv ya man, nuther great review. Keep em cu...er...coming!
Good review I just purchased one pair of RED for myself (because the red matches my aesthetic) trying to ditch overear headphones for ease of use and not having my crown have a dent from overuse I have 2 questions in mind 1. I do understand the OG are better for gaming however how much am I losing if the OG is better for gaming compared to the RED? (%-wise) 2. Currently I own the Sennheizer x Drop HD58x how would you say those compare both to the Zero OG/RED?
Hard to speak percentages. If I was scoring them on a test the Og is an 87/100 the new one with adapter is a 78/100 although they’re probably a bit closer than that.
@@FreshReviewsYT Thank you so if I were to go with the RED for my first IEMS for gaming I shouldn't feel like I'm missing out that much compared to the OGs?
@@Krotexx they probably perform close enough to each other that you wouldn't really notice much of a difference, but I doubt the performance on IEMs that are cheaper than full-sized over ear headphones would perform better than your 58x, especially when 58x are open backs designed for gaming.
@@scottwangkl8882 thank you for your input I just really wanna try IEMs to ditch overear ones due to discomfort over long periods of time and from what I understood they seem to be better for competitive gaming which is what I mainly play with some music on the side
@@Krotexx I think a lot of whether an IEM performs just as well as headphones or not also depends on the sound design of the game. Personally, the Truthear Zero original feels like they perform pretty much on par with gaming headphones from Razer, but with much better tuning. So if you wanted to move into IEMs for better comfort then I would say go for it. With the Zeros, you don't really risk a lot of money anyway, since they're so cheap compared to the other options on Fresh's "wallhack" tier list.
@@FreshReviewsYT Would it be the same to use the OG truthear zero plugged in to my pc or would it be worse, and if there is a difference, how much? because if i have to buy a 200$ amp dac, that kinda eliminates the idea of it being "budget"
@@djag-2001 on board sound cards often have a high output impedance, this will change the sound characteristics of low impedance headphones of which most iems belong too. It can make the bass feel muddy or the mids and treble over/under emphasized.
Hi Fresh, Thanks for the vid and the great work you are doing. If i check your wallhack lists. The closest thing to my budget is the kiwi orchestra lite but currently priced at 299€ amazon. The raptgo is on the same price range here at germany just a little bit too high for me. Do you have any other good recommendations in that price range?
I think you should start with the Truthear Zero and work your way up from there. I got both the Zero and the Raptgo Hook X HBB and even though I liked the Hook X HBB more the Zero is still really great for the price, especially since I don't really think the massive $200 price difference is really that justified.
@@skypsyco916 i tried the zeros and for apex these felt like cheating i heard every footstep and could precisely pinpoint where there are 10x better than on my tygr 300 but they really aren’t comfortable theeeey are so big and scratchy inside my ear i dont know maybe they get comfortable over time but after two days of testing them they still hurt a lot. I should maybe give them another try !
@@swaggyfn6008 You should get used to it pretty soon, I didn't have that issue because I already wear very deep fitting earbuds frequently. Try using smaller or softer memory foam tips as well, just make sure you have clean earholes because my friend tried my Truthear Zeros with the memory foam tips once and I never used them again, so much earwax 🤮
Exactly my type of review. There's gaming review, comparison, including music review.... It's a full package.
Now waiting for the KZ PR2 review. I want it to be the best for gaming
as far as music goes, i think the Red is better than the OG but i dont think it justifies upgrading to it if you already have the OG.
Agreed
even crin said it, dont upgrade but instead u can download the tuning of the red.
Eh, I think this would be more of a sidegrade than a true upgrade in that regard.
@@abdullahbinmadhi8306 but you have to pay for the eq tool, it's not free
Reminds me of the shp9500 and shp9600
glad to see you're still responding to comments. I was unsure about blues vs reds but seeing as you're still sticking with the blues over a year later, I'm confident in picking them over the reds. Thanks for the review!
Thanks
@@FreshReviewsYT damn this video is a year old and your still responding nice to see 👍
awesome video. thank you for this! recently lost my og pair and was considering getting the reds. question now answered.
Let's hope the QC is a lot better here than on the original Zeros (probably not)
Also, if you're gonna be showing more graphs in future videos, might I recommend clearer colors differentiating the IEMS on the graph? Great stuff seeing graphs now in these IEM reviews even if they mean nothing to us gamers!
What QC issues did you have? Mine seem fine and I had them when they first released.
@@flashjor98 The first pair I got from Amazon had one side completely die out and then the second pair I'm using currently has a loose 2 pin connector port because the glue got loose or something
@@YurttheSilentChief1 Did you try replacing the little metal "shield" at the end of the nozzle?
same lmfao. My zero reds arrived yesterday and the right side was dead on arrival, got them replaced next day
Ordered the Red as soon as it was available and I already have the OG, looks like I now have a set for gaming and another for music.
original zero sounded too thin/shouty for me to use it with music so I'm glad to see this one isn't too far behind the original for gaming purposes probably going to give the blue zero to a friend as their first iem. also for anyone having trouble with the big nozzle I would recommend spinfit cp 155 tips
are there any tips you'd recommend that have that Apple ear buds shape? I've tried a couple IEM but always had to return cuz every time no matter what size they'd start hurting my ears like crazy or just fall out. I've been using apple ear buds for years now and find that shape fits my ears best
@@tekniik I think maybe the Nothing Earbuds might fit that criteria? Im not really a IEM savant but thats the closest thing I can think of. Hope theres a store near you to try it out
Thosae tips cost half the price of the IEMs. Are they really that worth?
I use the cp 145 Spinfits. They're cheap, and come with 3 pairs. They're great for the Zeroes. I don't even notice the shoutiness with em.
Quick tip. When i used a smaller size tip, it sounded shouty because I didn't get a proper seal, and even the bass was leaking out. With the medium size, for me it is a perfect seal. Now I find it super bassy and not at all shouty anymore.
I was listening to Crin explain the Reds in the car yesterday and was hoping you got an early set to get your gaming take on them. Thanks!
There is a new Dunu kima classic. As I looked into the graph, it has slightly more bass than the og version. Wondering it is will worth in term of gaming. Hope to see you testing it out 😊
Hey Fresh, thanks for the review! I just bought the OG one a few days ago and couldn't believe it when I heard they dropped a new model lmao. Good to know the OG is still better for competitive gaming, as that was the main reason why I bought it.
Do u use it with mic for gaming? If u do, what's the cable u using?
@@A-JAM75 I have a standard usb desk mic with the default zero cable
You play cod
How do you have them connected to your PC? Do you have a dac or to you just run it straight into your PC?
@@tornbruh8301 I have an audio interface, but straight to the pc it also works great, just has a lower volume
Would love to see a trn ta1 max and kz x hbb pr2 review, these 2 are the only budget iems on the market that could take the crown of og truthear zero for gaming, i legit can't wait till you get your hands on them 🌷
The pr2 are amazing, they have replaced my HD560s! Would be great to hear your thought Fresh, I have the well tuned ones with the black mesh.
Thanks Men buying the blue ones for Competitive Gaming
woot and wanted see this review as was about to get the old zero this week for gaming
Was wondering if I should get the Truthear X crinical zero, glad this video is here as well, and so soon
yo fresh you should review the Dunu Kima classic if possible it has a different tuning compared to the original Dunu Kima
What pisses me the most is the stupidly wide nozzle so if you have small ear canals it can be problem for longer session. In my case, first hours were painful but I am slowly getting used to them, probably will look for some 3rd party ear tips.
What type of setting did you use for the blue/OG? like is it connected to onboard audio, or external amp/dac, do you play on stereo or? And with some eq?
I feel like for me with my dac/amp in stereo and even with some virtual surround they play very loud and also to much base, so i have to do some eq for the low end and some soundlock to dampen the louder sounds.
In general i prefer some type of virtual surround. Plain stereo to me just sound to narrow/in my head, for gaming.
For music they are fine.
I really like your approach for reviewing iems in a gaming scenario, appreciate the work you put into these reviews. Any chance you will review KZ HBB PR2? would like to know if that set is any good for gaming purposes. Many thanks and keep up the good work!
The nozzle causes some discomfort after short use, I’m wondering if better eartips could help. Any recommendations that fit the reds?
Ayyyyyyyy was thinking about you reviewing these yesterday hoping you would :P.
Can you review the budget Moondrop jiu and tanya dsp. Thanks
Great video as always!
So I turned up the base in my windows settings and these Zero Reds rumble my soul 😍but only if the song or game needs it
Good watch! I am playing Warzone 2 with the Beyerdynamic DT 900 Pro X that you recommended, but I also bought these OGs. I can't tell which I like better for footsteps....which tips do you like better on the tips? Tips with the smaller hole or the bigger hole?
I think I went smaller hole but I can’t recall
you can download the tuning of the OG and put it with the red when you gaming and put the original tuning of the red to music.
what do i need to do that? do i need a DAC or a program to download/put the tuning?
@@Leozinhozd no,just the peace eq
How would you compare those ones with the khan and the pr2?
My friend broke the OG zero and now in left here not sure what to buy next
Damn Fresh, you're fast with this review.
I’ve had them for awhile lol. I’m actually late believe it or not 😂
Would you recommend the blues/reds for games such as Rainbow 6? like is there directional sound at all?
In the video it says the Zero blue is better at directional cues but I can't speak from experience. I do have the Zero Reds and I've tried it with R6 and it was really difficult to pinpoint even just the footsteps of players. Even my KZ ZVX gave more info.
Love your review could you please make one for Sony ier-m9 gaming wise thanks
Can you try to review bullet type iem for gaming?
While it definitely doesn't look like an upgrade to the original for gaming, would you recommend the Red or the original for someone who has neither? My main use case is gaming, but of course I also listen to music and other stuff regularly. My main game (Overwatch) also has a lot going on at the same time, and missing any audio queue can be bad.
He lays it out in the review. Both good for gaming (ranked 1 and 2 in his list in the description) but red is better for music. From there you’ll have to make your decision
I think you should look for something else as i tried the og zero with overwatch and it was too shouty and crowded i felt lost.
I think headphones are still the best for competitive gaming and sennheiser 560s is the best for overwatch.
@@malek4888 why
@@malek4888did you use a dac?
@@ravantgarde1899bro what does he mean by the 'with adapter' which is written in the description near Zero.
Anyone in the comments got the DT 900 Pro x on Fresh's recommendation? I have them on order just hoping they're a good all-rounder and not just for gaming, seen a few mixed reviews.
Trash material construction long term (1 year), look igor´sLAB problems with DT 700 Pro X, i have the same problems with 900...
It’s more so a set for gaming. No build quality issues on my copy.
I have had them since release and have been great. No issues at all and we'll built
hey, i was really wondering if i could use the crin zero OG with my DAC dragonfly black 1.5 or would it make it worse? :o great review btw love the gaming focused approach as well as the music listening aspects!
Hello, I'm having a good deal on the Zero Red, but I was finding the Zero OG as your recommendation. So I want to ask you should I go for the Zero Red? I mainly play Valorant, only at the rank Asc. Thank you so much.
Sure it should be ok. I just recommend using the impedance adapter in the box
@@FreshReviewsYT Okay I'll take it, thank you
Hey fresh if i get the og zeros will my mini go xlr be enough or should i also try and get some type dac as well?
For an all round use; like for gaming AND music listening, would you recommend the blues over the reds?
Fresh, What do you recommend for VR gaming, I have the og zero and i hate it, can you recommend something for game immersion while also good for imaging. I watched all your videos and i can't decide between Dunu kima, Raptgo hook x, kiwi orchestra lite and Quartet.
Fresh, great vid, whats your fav under 100 for busy games like Apex and Cod? Regardless of EIM or headset
If I had to pick one specifically to rank up with it would still be the Crinacle zero Og or Dunu kima
great review really straight to the point just the way I like it :)
Hoping you could shed some light on this. I have the astro a50s that i use for apex. Love the headset, tired of wearing it though. Is there an iem setup that is comparable or better than the overall sound of the a50?
Everything on my list.
Ohaiyoo Freshh! :D Lowkey want to check these out. Shoot I dont want to have a mass of IEMs everywhere now lol
Are the Dunu Kima better than the Zeros ? interms of sound stage and directional audio ?
The stage on the kima is probably closer to you but the directional audio on both is great. When you allow your brain to adapt to the added warmth on the Kima they perform very well and I like them a lot.
Kima classic vs the OG kima you already reviewed, or just a decent length comment on your feelings between the two would be nice.
For you, what is the best budget iem for fps gaming like valorant right now? ($20-60)
Same list in the description
nice! i got the OG Crinacle Zero a few weeks ago thanks to your input and they fit great with stock medium tips (ngl i feel like the controversy regarding the "wider than usual" stem is massively overblown, my ears are tiny btw).
Would you say the moondrop LAN is in your TOP 3 below $60?? my friend wants to get into IEMs but he could not stand my Zero after just a few minutes (again i do feel the wide stem issue is overblown anyway but he did say it wasn't too comfy for him) so perhaps the LAN would be a nice compromise? mostly gaming and YT videos btw, he barely listens to music.
That’s interesting. I got the og zeros early on in my iem journey and I didn’t love the wide nozzles. Now they feel great in my ears. I think you just get used to wearing iems after a while
Top 3 below 60 would probably include the lan
Waiting for your review on the KZ HBB PR2 🙏
This video was just what I was looking for. Super informative.
I’m planning to buy one of these tomorrow as my first IEMs, I just have a question.
How much “worse” are the Reds compared to Blues for gaming?
Like, I’m just a casual gamer so I don’t care that much about being competitive. I also listen to a lot of music so that’s why I was going with the REDs.
But everyone says I should get the blues if my main focus is gaming and I just can’t decide. How close the Reds come to the blues with the impedance adapter?
Close with the adapter
Which one would be better as an allrounder?
Like playing casual/competetiv games and listening to music.
I love your videos btw❤
think to yourself, what do you spend more time on? gaming or listening to music? if gaming is your answer then go for the blues. if listening to music is your answer then go for the reds. either way you can't go wrong
Have you tried an EQ that makes the Reds mimic or closely mimic the OGs and see how that affects performance?
Have not.
What's the best Gaming IEM in your opinion under $50?
Mainly for CS, Valorant etc
I bought those headphones and was super excited since my old pair died(one ear stopped working). However, after using them for a bit I feel very disappointed. I'm not an expert or audiophile but my previous pair SoundMagic e80 sounded significantly better. The sound in Zero Reds seems to be so dry, the gunshots lack depth. I can barely understand what's happening on the map when I'm playing CS2, and that wasn't an issue with e80 at all. And I have to press them so hard in my ear at least to get some quality but it still sucks. It kinda feels like a waste of money.
Did you use the impedance adapter? Because your explanation is far off from the sound of the IEM used as explained in the video.
@@FreshReviewsYT yes, I haven't even tried it without it. There's enough bass when I listen to music, but the regular sounds I'm used to in games seem very dry and sharp. Like I shoot a shotgun with e80 and I can feel that that rich satisfying sound with perfect amount of depth, same with AWP or Deagle. It's pleasant to ears. I can play this sound on my iphone speakers and it will be very similar. But with Zero Reds it's suddenly very sharp and pitched idk how to explain this better. I feel like it's played at different frequency. If I max the volume I can perfectly tolerate the shooting sound with e80, but with Truthear it is actually painful.
@@Aquve have a good seal?
Exactly the review I was looking for man thanks, I'll stick with the OG, though, I might be looking for an amp, don't you think the sound lacks of power/volume, even at 100% ???
Oh for sure. I use an amp dac myself. On board audio is 🫤
@@FreshReviewsYT what would you recommend, budget friendly ?
im having such a hard time deciding between the Crinacle Zero's and the Hexa/EW200
Hey man great video! I know you get this a lot but I enjoy my music and I also love gaming would the impedance adapter be good enough let’s say for valorant or csgo for footsteps would appreciate it!
as always, great review man!!
Thanks, Oscar
Will you review koss ksc75? Many people are hyping them for gaming. Would be nice to hear from someone reliable who has tried many iems and see of they would make your budget list
Please review Fiio FF3 and FF5 for gaming perspective
@Fresh Reviews, thanks for your review, was hoping you'd review this.
Without the impedance adapter, how would you compare the Zero Red to the TKZK Ouranos in terms of gaming? I realize that the Ouranos aren't on your recommended list, but you seemed to give it an OK. I'm looking in this price range and do more music listening / movie watching than gaming, but want something great for everything. These 2 are at the top of my list right now.
Tkzk would be better for gaming
@@FreshReviewsYT Thanks!
Hi Fresh ! First of all, I like all the reviews ! I mainly play apex as competitive as I can and I was shocked when I discovered you and all reviews related to this game. I purchased my Truthear zero and HD 560s with your vids !
Anyway I’d like to know your points on IEM as I saw a lot of reviews saying I should have them with Dolby Atmos performance mode. What’s your thought on that ? Do you play stereo, default settings on headphone AND IEM ?
Thanks a lot !
Stereo
What are your thougts and comparation betwen 560s and truth zeros ? Whitch ones do you use more and are they anywhere close to each other bcz of price ? I want to order zeros and later on to upgrade on 560s if there is point for an upgrade?
Which one you like more? Hd560s or iem?
I feel like I’ve seen a bunch of your videos and they’re so good. Coming from the 900prox is there a specific iem under 300 you’d recommend for all around good music and gaming like the 900x?
Thanks man also sorry it’s kinda vague. I love the sound of the 900x and the arias seems to be lacking when I tried them in comparison
Kiwi ears orchestra lite
Is the hexa better for gaming when it goes on sale for 68$ tomorrow?
The hexa is better than the red zero without the adapter. With the adapter they’re probably on par. The OG zero is better than both
@@FreshReviewsYT Significaly better or just slightly? Are the hexas better if i use it mainly for gaming but also with iphone for music and podcasts? Any replys much apreciated!
@@FreshReviewsYT Also what do you think about AutoEq and the tuning that people provide for products like the hexa like crinacle? Do you think they are bad or good and if it could negativly impact the hexas gaming experience/any product on autoeq
Hey there Fresh! Not sure if you'll see this but do you have a list or what would you recommend as best for gaming in the 100 to 150 USD range? Thanks!
I do! Always check my most recent video descriptions. I have an ongoing list of my top budget choices
@@FreshReviewsYT oh thanks Fresh!!!
You’re actually nice at apex, especially for mnk. Just copped a pair of the OGs cause I heard the staging is better
How does it compare to the hexa?
Hi, would you recommend the OG for large battle games like cod warzone or battlefield?
Yea for sure
Thank you for your insights Fresh. Now I've watched most of your IEM reviews, and I narrowed it down to the Moondrop Aria and the Truthear Zero OG/RED. However, I still can't decide which to choose from the two as my main use for it will be for competitive gaming like Valorant and CS:GO. Music is second (although it's still a priority to me). Any suggestions?
Crinacle zero OG for sure
Thanks
If you wanna compare truthear hexas and zero OG's which one is better for fps gaming?
With just my iphone and a dongle the OG Zero was BAD i hope the red is better
It won’t be unless you have a dongle dac with a little more power. The zero red is harder to drive than the og
Both are harder to drive like exactom mentioned
What db do you typically listen at?
Soo, for comp games the blue is better, right? but what about the MMOs, open worlds and stuff like that, is the red better?
I want to buy "Truthear x crinacle zero" but it doesn't have a microphone i need to use comms because of my teammates 😢😢😢 i want it so bad but doesn't have....
Desktop mic
@@FreshReviewsYTI'm a mobile and pc user when it comes to playing on mobile how can I have a mic boss?
Buy a replacement cable with mic?
@@louiebanal6421 can u recommend a good one sir?
have a look at reviews of the celest ruyi kinera and tripowin grace
im satisfied with my IE 100 pro for a year since purchase, but I always wonder what is my upgrade path on IEMs. Which one would you pick?
Thanks!!!
Did you try and switch the adapter over to the blue one? And if you did.. did it improve the blue ones sound in any way?
My 10 cents here: I use the OG zeros for gaming, they simply work amazing and better for it, clarity and positioning with good immersion.
I use the Reds to listen to music and watch movies, they are GOD like for that purpose, since you can rock full volume and enjoy the entirety of it. The Reds for gaming are nice, but the positioning, the 3d, are not there compared to the OG. Only use if the game is not competitive.
Agreed. Red is good though with impedance adapter for gaming. Ultimately, the oG is the play for gaming.
Xenns top vs dt 900 x pro whats better??????? I'm about to buy
Simgot ew200 or zero OG for fps?
What was the impedance adapter?? 10ohm bass boost? Just wanna check if the store near me has the orig impedance adapter that comes with red
Hi Fresh, will you take a look to the AFUL Performer8 in the future?
tank you for your reviews
Will try
Would I be happy with these for gaming coming from a beyerdynamic dt 990pro? Wanna try and make a switch to IEMs for the hype and also because I have long hair 🤣
I like to play Valorant and Apex while listening to music on low volume. What would you recommend me? I really wanna hear footsteps but still enjoy music. So far I have been using the Razer Blackshark V2. I just cant decide if I should get the Blue or Red version.
Blue
Need something with a mic man cant be bothered to get a mic setup :( might have to go with the FinalVR3000.
Any recommendation else within similar budget with mic would be helpful. Thanks
Just buy a 2 pin cable with mic
hi, between the truthear zero and the ew200 which one's better for strictly single-player gaming?
hey bro, which one ya got?
I'm sorry if you mentioned this on the video, but I would like to ask which ear tips do you use for testing in gaming? Thank you.
Depends on the IEM. Sometimes stock. I do also use azla sednaearfit, Dunu candy, and spinfit
Hi Fresh, what kind of ear tips you used with Zero: Red?
Wide bore or Narrow bore tips?
Thanks!
I believe I used narrow
@@FreshReviewsYT the one that is included in the box or 3rd party ear tips?
Which one shall I choose from The OG Blue Zero or the new Zero Red or the Truthhear Hexa for mainly Gaming purposes with occasional movie watching on my PC
Purple
Do you think truthear hexa is better iem for gaming than the zero red or the og?
It’s not better than the og
These look cool and I plan on trying them later this year along with the amp/dac from the last review
I might buy the Red in the near future
Do i need a dac/amp to run these? or will they sound good on their own? also is their a cable i can use to add a microphone?
Amp dac will improve over on board audio
Guys I have a basic question. Which one is better? Truthear Hexa or Zero OG.
Hey bro I have og zero hooked up to my goxlr mini, I play warzone I don’t know why but gunshots are extremely loud and all other audio is barely noticeable any idea how I can fix or should I order another pair?
So I haven’t tested them unfortunately on warzone or on a goxlr. You may need to play around with the sound settings in warzone. Studio reference etc. also keep windows settings off like any spatial audio etc
do you think going from shp9500 over ears to the og crinacle zeros would be an upgrade or downgrade for gaming?
I made the exact same switch a few months ago. I definitely prefer the Zeros. The imaging and depth perception is leagues better than the shp9500. They also sound better for music imo
@@gggabbb tysm
Zeros win
what should i get for playing fps games xenns mangrid trop or the Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite or
also can you get into detail why you would pick this one and how much better is it would love to hear from you please thank you in advice
Hi Fresh, i just got a pair of Red. And it doesnt work probably when i plug it into the pc through 3.5mm (really muddy and only 70% of volume). Then i bought a 10$ soundcard that convert 3.5mm to usb-a which is working fine now. Can u suggest a budget AMp for gaming around 50$? Love ur content alot, cuz im an Apex-only player🥰
You might be able to find a dx1 but I haven’t tested it personally
Gawd, my curiosity to just A/B these with my OG Crin-Zero....I so wanna do it. When's that damn pad coming Fresh? HUH? Gonna end up spending my dimes here....woof. Luv ya man, nuther great review. Keep em cu...er...coming!
😂
I bought it but idk when should I use the bass+ and when not ;w; like, for listening to music and for playing FPS games
I use the bass for gaming and I take it off for music
Good review I just purchased one pair of RED for myself (because the red matches my aesthetic) trying to ditch overear headphones for ease of use and not having my crown have a dent from overuse
I have 2 questions in mind
1. I do understand the OG are better for gaming however how much am I losing if the OG is better for gaming compared to the RED? (%-wise)
2. Currently I own the Sennheizer x Drop HD58x how would you say those compare both to the Zero OG/RED?
Hard to speak percentages. If I was scoring them on a test the Og is an 87/100 the new one with adapter is a 78/100 although they’re probably a bit closer than that.
@@FreshReviewsYT Thank you so if I were to go with the RED for my first IEMS for gaming I shouldn't feel like I'm missing out that much compared to the OGs?
@@Krotexx they probably perform close enough to each other that you wouldn't really notice much of a difference, but I doubt the performance on IEMs that are cheaper than full-sized over ear headphones would perform better than your 58x, especially when 58x are open backs designed for gaming.
@@scottwangkl8882 thank you for your input I just really wanna try IEMs to ditch overear ones due to discomfort over long periods of time and from what I understood they seem to be better for competitive gaming which is what I mainly play with some music on the side
@@Krotexx I think a lot of whether an IEM performs just as well as headphones or not also depends on the sound design of the game. Personally, the Truthear Zero original feels like they perform pretty much on par with gaming headphones from Razer, but with much better tuning. So if you wanted to move into IEMs for better comfort then I would say go for it. With the Zeros, you don't really risk a lot of money anyway, since they're so cheap compared to the other options on Fresh's "wallhack" tier list.
Thank you for the video. In your opinion, which one is better for gaming(pubg): blue or red?
Blue
@@FreshReviewsYT Overall, do you think this is still the best choice in its price segment?
Hi! I'm planning on buying the OG Zero for gaming but I'm new to IEM.
is it okay to just connect the OG zero to the pc or do I NEED to buy a DAC/AMP?
I use an amp dac. Most on board audio is chalked
@@FreshReviewsYT Would it be the same to use the OG truthear zero plugged in to my pc or would it be worse, and if there is a difference, how much? because if i have to buy a 200$ amp dac, that kinda eliminates the idea of it being "budget"
@@djag-2001 on board sound cards often have a high output impedance, this will change the sound characteristics of low impedance headphones of which most iems belong too. It can make the bass feel muddy or the mids and treble over/under emphasized.
Great review, what if you used the impedance adapter on the OG?
It should increase the bass even more
Would you say they are worth it even though I own a pair of Sennheiser HD 599 SE?
Hi! Have you tested the QKZ x HBB Khan?
I have not on my list
Hi Fresh,
Thanks for the vid and the great work you are doing. If i check your wallhack lists. The closest thing to my budget is the kiwi orchestra lite but currently priced at 299€ amazon. The raptgo is on the same price range here at germany just a little bit too high for me. Do you have any other good recommendations in that price range?
I think you should start with the Truthear Zero and work your way up from there. I got both the Zero and the Raptgo Hook X HBB and even though I liked the Hook X HBB more the Zero is still really great for the price, especially since I don't really think the massive $200 price difference is really that justified.
@@skypsyco916 i tried the zeros and for apex these felt like cheating i heard every footstep and could precisely pinpoint where there are 10x better than on my tygr 300 but they really aren’t comfortable theeeey are so big and scratchy inside my ear i dont know maybe they get comfortable over time but after two days of testing them they still hurt a lot. I should maybe give them another try !
@@swaggyfn6008 You should get used to it pretty soon, I didn't have that issue because I already wear very deep fitting earbuds frequently. Try using smaller or softer memory foam tips as well, just make sure you have clean earholes because my friend tried my Truthear Zeros with the memory foam tips once and I never used them again, so much earwax 🤮