As I commented on Jonathan's last video with Paul Van Der Klay, anyone familiar with the recovery community knows how compassion can be weaponized to deadly effect, it is called "Enabling".
It gets darker than that... I recently separated from a recovery group where the leadership displays quite a bit of cult-like behavior. Public ridicule, ostracism, and when they see someone pulling away from the group they love bomb on them to pull them back in. Truly demonic stuff.
Oh! What a clarification! I remember this moment in high school where I read a book with an enabling character and I identified deeply with his compassion and accommodation in service of another. In my heart it felt sickly yet sweet at the same time, both persuasive and subversively tinted to misdirect. In the years since I’ve struggled between the two, like a battle of to discern the proper way to love, and often practicing enabling masquerading as compassion…oh boy. Thank you.
Spot on. I'm a father of 4, if I didn't truly love my children, I wouldn't punish them for harmful behavior. I'm the end, enabling harmful behavior, sets up a terrible path for the present and future.
There was a shift where Christians were made to feel bad by non believers so they started claiming being a Christian = being nice. God didn't call us to be "nice". Great if you can be, but He called us to be salt and light. They both can burn and preserve and cleanse. Doing what is right doesn't mean no discomfort will follow.
That moment where Christ tells Peter "Get thee behind me, Satan" is when Peter denies that Christ must die which is also demonstrating weaponized compassion pretty clearly.
This is it! Weaponised compassion is what I have felt for the past two years, we sacrificed our children, our businesses, our bodily autonomy, our freedom all for ‘compassion’, if we don’t comply we are called selfish and punished. Urgh, it’s been so horrible.
@Phlebas We're being called to give up our ability to participate in the Logos by not going to church, but this is the end of what had already been the case. The pronoun issue also asks that you live in a different reality.
This is why God instructs us to keep our "good works" to ourselves, pray in our secret place and not seek approval or back patting from the crowd. God says when we seek the crowd, there is our reward. This is why we are saved through grace and not works, we fall short everytime and you are correct it turns in to pride!! We are compromising our souls for recognition of our "caring" for others becoming ill or dying.
Isn't such insight you have arrived at a kind of good works? Isn't good works and grace one? The works is to set sails for grace to bless with the wind of God.
I like this. It’s got me contemplating what the word ‘care’ means. Quo thinking out loud rambling: ….. I feel like ‘care’ without the ‘caring’ (nurturing) part is smoke. Without the action behind it, the word ‘care’ is empty. But it gets thrown around so much. ‘I care about the poor’ I ‘care about the environment’ ‘I care about my health’ ‘I care about OTHER people getting it’. You would never have to say these things if you were actually caring because that is who others would see you as inherently if you truly were because that is what you embody through your actions. Actions speak louder than words right. Like the story he shared about how the lady used the expensive ointment on Jesus’s feet… she was physically caring for him. While the other guy saw it as an ‘opportunity cost’ veiled as ambiguous ‘care’ for non-specific ‘poor people’. And let’s say his intention was ‘good’ and he wasn’t a selfish thief lol.. and let’s even say it wasn’t Jesus.. he is basically saying this one guy shouldn’t be cared for because there are others who also need to be cared for. But that logic doesn’t stand because if you lined everyone up who needed care you’d keep going to the next person because there is always someone else so no one would ever be cared for in the end. Whereas I feel like Jesus wants us to meaningfully care for at least one other person because if you do that, everyone can be cared for.
But James, brother of Jesus, points out that faith without works is dead. Good works in the spirit of Righteousness comes from true faith first, but works on their own for the benefit of one's pride is empty.
So it’s doing those things (acts of compassion for example), “but in secret”, so that they cannot be claimed as in any way something that makes us better than we are, or increases the danger that is pride?
This pattern of maximising social justice above all else is also plays out in a similar way in other spheres, where merely utilitarian ways of approaching morality fail to comprehend the importance of recognising and symbolising the value of individuals. Example: Josephine Butler was a social reformer in Victorian England who among other things campaigned on behalf of prostitutes, taking many women into her own home (she was a vicar’s wife). Many women were so poor that prostitution was their only means of survival and disease was rampant. One of the many women she nursed through terminal illness died in Butler’s arms, and at her funeral, she filled the woman’s coffin with camelias, which would have cost an absolute fortune in Liverpool in a freezing cold March. She has been criticised for this ‘waste’ but it symbolised in really concrete terms the value that she gave to the lives of these utterly despised women. The utilitarian approach which just wants to maximise outcome, has no way of including the value of individuals in its calculations. Weaponising ‘maximising impact’ of one’s deeds in aiming for maximum utility happens all the time but can end up losing sight of the reason for caring for others in the first place - each person’s absolute value. We see it too in maximising 'saving lives' with no concern for the quality and meaning of our lives. By the way, pity Marvel comics etc don’t ever feature true female heroines like Josephine Butler.
Dr Paula that is spot on. Great to see you continuing to contribute, hope you're well, thanks for the comments on my other video (had to take down the facebook interview after getting legal advice, but have edited and its up on you tube now) I remain a fanboy of your work. God bless Doc.
notice also how many people nowadays would rather be cremated or use for "science" and just disposed of. In other words make some use of my body and don't waste time on ceremonies and rituals.
Today is Sunday, July 17, 2022, and the gospel is about Mary and Martha. I was uneasy listening to the sermon today by our deacon. He said that the church is both Mary and Martha in that prayer and service are equal. He even mentioned that 12 verses down, Jesus identified himself in Martha. The only reason Jesus said that Mary did the better part was because Martha served without love. However, I was immediately reminded by a quote from St Mother Teresa where she said, "though we are involved in social work, our goal is to be contemplatives at the heart of the world". I think she was the perfect model for the balance between Mary and Martha.
This is so timely and so good. I realised I’d been doing this thing. Weaponising compassion. Once I realised what I was doing, I named it “broken bird syndrome”, coz it was like wanting to fix the broken wings of birds. But it was to get virtue (aka virtue signalling). It was to feel like a hero and special and significant. Once I realised it, and started to develop other frameworks or mental models for seeing this, I felt so disgusted by it and can see how it plays out in toxic relationships. Whereas sometimes people feel like they love someone. But really, they love the idea that they have of a person, that then gets overlayed on top of the person. It’s like a spirit, posing as someone. And it’s gross.
Thank you Jonathan, I've been looking for a good term for this pathology. I couldn't use Ted Kaczinsky's "Over Socialised" and Weaponised Compassion fits the bill. During height of lockdown a security guard tied to stop me bottle-feeding my newborn as I hadn't booked the table at supermarket cafe. I said we'll be gone in a few minutes so chill, security lady said she was going to call the police on us "for everyone's safety". I called her bluff, my son drank his bottle happily and the woman was getting angry at my smile. I said "call the cops, we have a milk drinking baby threatening the cafe". I think she got fired as I did a UA-cam video about it. It is WEAPONISED COMPASSION, this safety concern
Ehh. What you described; you’re almost there, still at self defense compassion. To get to weaponized compassion you need a dash of premeditated, and two sifted cups of malevolence.
@@corinnemuir1542 you think the security guard wasn’t practicing in the mirror for an interaction like that? And most security guards have 6 sifted cups of malevolence at least ready in the wings. The only problem for them in this scenario was usually the mirror doesn’t talk back.
I've been using the term "weaponized compassion" in regards to America's psychiatric practices in modern times. Most specifically for the diagnosis of Aspergers in the 90's of which now of course has been relabeled Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD). I was diagnosed at 7 and it changed my social environment. Children are quite apt to spot sociological differences between them (especially in a financially wired society) and it shouldn't be a surprise that children placed in special education aren't treated well. Both because of the special treatment but also the social repercussions. It's like a feedback loop that instils a sense of other into these children. Psychologically, this inhibits emotional growth and often causes them to repress from social environments. However, it doesn't kill the human need for community. Depending on many variables; the sociological environment, their family structure and financial stability, it can really effect how well they adapt to humanity. Oftentimes, it just leaves them feeling alien and very emotionally undeveloped. After a long life, I learned that label did nothing for me but gave a word to behaviors I'd had that'd manifest because of my family structure (which was asymmetrical). What did it take to properly socialize myself? 26 years of introversion, 1 year of socializing with a persona (acting). A motorcycle accident and finally being happy about life caused me to bathe in the hell social media has created. People really never do say what's on their mind; there's always an ulterior motive. I speak truth and it frightens people. Only because life took my on a path to find myself, but only at America's bottom. People tend to say nice things or to give advice but their actions never reflect such values. Labeling children at young ages is my definition of weaponized compassion. They don't comprehend how their mind words thus have rather disastrous practices in place that only destroy the individuals sense of self.
Hey could you elaborate on what you said about your family structure being assymetrical? What does that mean? How did that lead you to display Aspergers-like behaviour?
@@benjaminvandervoorn8963 Single parented, mother raised. Without a masculine person to learn from, I adopted my mothers traits. Being raised in a chaotic family caused my mind to focus outside of the social "realm" if you will. I was hyperactive, hyper focused, and obsessively interested in machines and physics. Treating me as other through my younger years kept me introverted as the social treatment I received only instantiated the idea. In short, the treatment exacerbated the issues. Most of the time, people don't think about the after effects of what happens when they do such. So it's no surprise to me why such individuals that are diagnoses find it hard to socialize which effects everything in life.
@@benjaminvandervoorn8963 No problem, I'm working on my means of articulating what I've learned about it through video. In hopes I can finally reach someone that desires a conversation about this. Because I know very well the pain I lived with for 27 years, and I know how to help many out of the same issues.
I remember being surprised at the hidden cross in the Andrew Garfield's hand at the end of Silence. The most meaningful consequence of his treading upon the fumie was that he spent the rest of his days as a gate-keeper, repelling all christian literature and symbols from Japan. The voice of Jesus saying to "tread" and the hidden cross suggest that compassionate betrayal was what the Lord would have wanted, but the missionary's lifetime of slavery to evil work suggests otherwise.
Man this is amazing and put into words the way i am feeling these days. I used to call it manipulation but weaponized compassion is precisely what is going on.
I just got kicked out of my church for exactly this reason - someone cloaked their power with gentle words of compassion and unity, and when I would not humble myself and submit to their idea of compassion I got the boot. You are right to call it weaponized, because it is absolutely being wielded like a battle mace. And you are also right to call it Antichrist, because it is a lying spirit, and that can never come from God.
This is a virtue signal which isn't always wrong but whenever I see posts like this I feel weird. Defiance is necessary sometimes but none of what is here differentiates your defiance as virtuous as opposed to just being rebellious. I know it might be a private matter but some details and circumstances would help. Particularly what makes you think its a battle mace approach and what exactly was their idea of compassion.
Absolutely, worth a watch! Especially, in this age where many growing number of _pseudo christians_ and the _self-saving secularists_ claim that they're wiser than God, the Creator Himself and more compassionate than Christ, the Sacrificial Saviour & more humble than our Servant King! It reminded me of Jesus's admonition to Martha: *One thing is NEEDFUL!* An excerpt from C. H. Spurgeon's sermon on this topic: "As for missions: we appoint our committees, we amend our plans, and suggest schemes.. All very well and good; but missions will never flourish till the church, with regard to missions, sits at Jesus' feet. She will never convert the heathen in her own way: God will give success only when we work in his way."
Thank you for this much needed video, the subject needs to be discussed. In the 90s Camille Paglia called it Coercive Compassion. I was thinking of how that 90s wave of political correctness, with it's Coercive Compassion, got the wind knocked out of it (for a period of time at least), after 9-11, when actual compassion resulted in how Americans came to help each other.
This is the most important video you have ever made in terms of needful, timely, practical help to the church in this difficult time. Thank you, Jonathan!
Jonathan you speak with authority. You have power in your words. God is using you in ways that will have an impact in the future. Thank you for offering light in these times of darkness. God bless you brother you have my respect, for whatever is worth.
After thinking about CS Lewis' essay on subjectivism, it's easy to see the Christian community itself can be lured into different forms of subjective thinking about their own faith. Subjectivism creates division, while the focus solely on certain true values leads to ignorance of the absolute values. The absolute value in Christianity is Christ, himself.
Magnificent topic!!! Paraphrasing what Christ Himself has said: "If you love your family more than you love Me, you are not worthy of me!" There it is, He laid it out plain and clear, if anyone has ever wondered why He had ever said these "cruel" words. The hierarchy is clear, so worry not what the world says about this topic.
Excellent.. I think of this as sort of an institutionalized form of codependency, where people use their presumed virtue as a way of gaining status and or power, and making others indebted to them, emotionally or otherwise.
Great insights, Jonathan. You have given a name to something I have sensed but for which I have not had a label. There are so many areas where the compassion trope is trotted out (apart from Covid measures): euthanasia, same sex marriage, abortion, etc.
When Jesus was asked what the greatest commandment was, he said "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, and might;" the second, "love your neighbor as yourself". Both are commands of God; between both all the law and prophets are undergirded. Our culture wants to put the second before the first. It's remarkable how a simple matter of misplaced priority can undermine everything.
I was thinking about this the other day, and the verse came to mind, He crowns us with love and compassion. It occurred to me that a crown is a sign of royalty, and that a crown of love and compassion is a sign of who is the ruler of my life and of my kingdom.
In the original novel on which the movie is based, Silence, by Shusako Endo, Rodriguez does not go to his grave clandestinely clutching a cross, symbolizing, I suppose, that he did not really renounce his faith, despite the yearly public ceremony that he has been forced to perform. In the book he goes to death an apostate, his true motivations hidden. The novel leaves the reader to be his final judge. Perhaps Scorcese added this twist to assuage his own conscience. It certainly makes the ending ambiguous, muddling the essential moral dilemma at the heart of the book. You describe this dilemma with great clarity, Jonathan. Thank you for your insights.
It should be noted that the ploy of executing the followers of a Christian evangelist a la Silence was not limited to the Japanese. The Romans did exactly the same thing, most famously in the case of Justin Martyr, who didn't deny Christ while watching his friends die.
Amen brother, this spirit has been in our church from the beginning of the scourge among us. Many of us have been told we were being extremist or uncaring for those around us if we questioned the measures in place for worship. I believe the Orthodox faith is the faith taught by Christ to the apostles passed down to us from the church fathers; the church of the first millennia, their response to actual plague and pandemic was not like ours.
Very interesting that the term anti-Christ would mean that it would come out of a perverted version of Christianity or from Christianity itself. I always thought it would be an opposite place but it makes more sense that it would be masked as something from Christianity or principles of Christianity.
I think it is in accord with the idea that Satan has no creative power in himself and that he can only pervert what God has created. "Weaponized compassion" is a perfect example of that, actually.
I just recently found an article about a 1963 congressional hearing about the 45 communist goals in America. Making art ugly in America was 2 of those goals. I finally felt some comfort in knowing I wasn’t going insane because I had thought that the art scene was just absolutely hideous for the last few decades and I couldn’t understand why anyone thought this stuff was worth looking at.
The "art world" is so nihilistic and depressing, those it promotes and champions are so shallow, pretentious and wearysome. Artists with their own niches who pay the "art world" no mind, are the ones who are most interesting and of substance.
Oh man! This elucidation was A M A Z ING!!! It's exactly what I've been intuitively feeling these two years and now that you've showed me tha frame in scripture in the biblical narrative, I finally understand. Such a revelation. thank you Jonathan, this is priceless wisdom.
I used to be a lefty and many of the people I know who are lefties are extremely compassionate. It’s sad to see their compassion being manipulated for terrible deeds. It’s why I don’t like seeing how people on the right “other” lefties as well. Othering each other means evil wins. I will say that I do know some on the left that use the guise of compassion as a mask for their hate or superiority complexes. There are definitely two types of people on the left. Those who are truly compassionate and those who pretend to be compassionate.
I agree with this, having been raised by one of those compassionate lefties. What I have learned, though, is that the the objects of the compassion, and even the compassion itself, become idols and there are power-plays made in an attempt to compel service to the idol. It's still destructive, even if done unwittingly and with good intentions.
Studies have shown that lefties are personally not very charitable, while conservatives are personally charitable. That’s what I’ve seen: lefties call for the government to do what conservatives want citizens to do, including themselves in the word “citizen”.
@@sliglusamelius8578 True point, but as a Dutch citizen in a town which has a lot of volunteers because of the churches I would say that it doesn't always have to be or citizens or government, but it can be and citizens and government working together. And participating citizens controlling the local government. Abuse of power is a lot more difficult if the level of participation is high on the side of the citizenry. I think this is true in any given situation. Big government with apathetic non interfering citizens is, in my opinion, to be feared most.
True empathy is unconditional; they would be able to empathize with those they accuse. What I see is a desire to protect their own identity (pride) rather than take care of the poor, otherwise they wouldn't scapegoat. Always for power, as the solution is state coercion.
Another brilliant discourse Jonathan - Weaponized Compassion … manifesting in many visible ways today as feigned virtue and compelled compliance. Thank you for shining Light.
Ultimately, from what I understand, I think, for Christ, Freedom (true Freedom) is a bit more important than Justice. People can decide for themselves, - some are also will be willing to sacrifice. It all will shake down, by the Grace of God. Thank you, Jonathan, great work, as usual.
I wish churches did a better job of teaching discernment And when churches closed, I learned a lot. People abandoned their faith in God, in order to hold self righteous can compassion and/or fear above that faith.
Great video. In my church, it is easy to worship from home (it's a lay-ministry, so families can often administer the sacraments in their home), so my sister was a bit surprised that so many Christians preferred congregating to worship instead of self-isolating. I pointed out that for other Christian churches, communing in person is a much higher priority as the church is often the only place where it is available. I sensed her parsing out which compassion should take priority...
Nailed it! All of scripture comes to your aid in this distinction, Jonathan. On Ash Wednesday, three days ago, an alter server fainted. Several of us laity cared for the server, while the priest didn’t miss a beat.
Unfortunately most at the upper levels of our hierarchies are completely beholden to the spirit of the age and obtain and maintain status by embracing the type of "compassion" discussed here.
Amazing Jonathan. This is what is needed now in these times, explanation of what is innately felt, but hard to verbally explain. It helps us to understand ourselves, situations we find ourselves in, and how to defend the faith. Jonathan has a great gift for doing this. Thank you and please do more.
At first I thought it was going to be about social justice and William. Then I thought you wouldn’t go there. Then you did! Then your rounded out the whole thing with an excellent summary: compassion in order to increase one’s own power!
Amen! Amen! Amen! You have vocalized exactly what I have been trying to find the words for. Thank you for taking the time to communicate this message so clearly. God bless you!
The "weaponised compassion" has been manifest in much of the degradation of liturgy in the modern chruch (Judas aspect of antichrist). However, this very breakdown is a type of death, the denial of which could lead to the "Peter" like aspect of antichrist, which would shown in anyone who disobeys or defames bishops not on board with traditional liturgy. The TLM is being restricted because "God chastises those whom he loves", and we must thus accepting the death, (war agaisnt tradititon from bishops) while retaining a traditional faith, so as to avoid schism, disobedience and slander.
Wow, we need way more people talking about this concept! I love this video, I hope it leads to more people recognizing this phenomenon and spreading the word and making their own videos on the subject!
I've been a subscriber for some time now, I was watching a Matt Walsh video when this video started suddenly playing, I kid you not it felt like God spoke to me through you, this gave me the reassurance I needed for my own conviction...
Thank you for this wonderful video, Jonathan. The concept of compassion has loomed large on my mind this past week, and this video only added more insight and beautiful ideas to my web of thoughts. As always, your work is so appreciated.
Thank you for your insights. I have felt the full brunt of the government for not being compassionate in their understanding of the word. They didn't choose to stand behind me with the club, they stood before me with boldness and made my choice an obvious one. Thanks again for putting context to my experience.
Wow! Jonathan said look out for this form of compassion in the culture , and it is basically the theme to the new Spider-Man movie! I sat inthe theater last night and said to myself, “Jonathan was right!”
Great video Jonathan. I added this video at the end of my channel speaking about 'Conscientiousness' and how it gets weaponized. Essentially we are saying the same thing.
This is a great observation, Jonathan. This also plays out in other social justice scenarios, such as in "anti-racism" where Christians of a certain skin color are asked, even demanded, to give up livelihoods, possessions, or other things to atone for sins or injustices committed by forefathers in the past or for perceived sins and injustices in the present. These Christians are obliged in the name of Christian fraternity, love, compassion, and self-sacrifice. Both left-wing and right-wing political ideologies take advantage of Christian sensibilities. But, left-wing ideologies seem to be particulary pernicious in that they obligate Christians to participate in their cause by using the Christian call to suffering and compassion.
Thank you so much Jonathan. Very clearly put forth, you helped me to see some things more clearly. Thank you so much for all you do to share your knowledge with us--it is edifying for the body of Christ.
Dear Jonathan, thank you for this. It is an Answer on a prayer I have in my heart for months…. christiane compassion being jused like pressure and weapon also from other christens in the social happenings
This ties in to the scripture: Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. Being that to love discipline. rod and staff and be comforted by them is how a child needs and even seeks structre and loving yet firm discipline.
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Such a good video, Jonathan. I’m not a practicing Christian but in my school I received a very catholic education. I had forgotten this Christ passage, it is wonderful for our times.
Very helpful video, Jonathan, many thanks - Silence is one of my favourite novels and I have to say that I'm not with you on your point about that story, even as Scorsese portrayed it. Ultimately, the missionary steps on the picture of Christ because Christ says "it is to be trampled on by men that I was born into this world," and I think the subsequent stripping of his identity actually makes it a story of cruciform sacrifice. The story of Silence is that the missionary experiences God as silent throughout these horrible persecutions and cries out for God to not be silent, until he makes this compassionate sacrifice in the manner of Christ for his flock, at which moment he realizes that God is not silent because he is speaking through the witness of his own actions. This self-sacrificial sort of compassion is actually contrasted by the continual weaponizing of the priests' mercy by Kichijiro, the Judas figure of the story. I (obviously) find it quite profound and rich, if a bit scandalous.
The very same principle can be applied to so many groups and agencies nowadays. Very good video, hopefully more people will open their eyes to this form of manipulation.
Monsieur Pageau, I'm a great fan boy and this is brilliant. It serendipitously came out when I was finalising an article about the same thing. Also great to see Dr Paula Boddington on line. She is fantastic too. I got her on my podcast after seeing her on yours. God bless you both.
Thank you so much for this. You make a very important point and it needs to be said. It is definitely an aspect that is easily confusing and has the potential to deceive. Well said.
"Compassion is something freely given, not compelled."
Indulgence, not compulsion.
As I commented on Jonathan's last video with Paul Van Der Klay, anyone familiar with the recovery community knows how compassion can be weaponized to deadly effect, it is called "Enabling".
Based priest.
It gets darker than that...
I recently separated from a recovery group where the leadership displays quite a bit of cult-like behavior.
Public ridicule, ostracism, and when they see someone pulling away from the group they love bomb on them to pull them back in.
Truly demonic stuff.
Oh! What a clarification!
I remember this moment in high school where I read a book with an enabling character and I identified deeply with his compassion and accommodation in service of another. In my heart it felt sickly yet sweet at the same time, both persuasive and subversively tinted to misdirect. In the years since I’ve struggled between the two, like a battle of to discern the proper way to love, and often practicing enabling masquerading as compassion…oh boy.
Thank you.
Spot on. I'm a father of 4, if I didn't truly love my children, I wouldn't punish them for harmful behavior. I'm the end, enabling harmful behavior, sets up a terrible path for the present and future.
@@four-eight-zero5627 Right, as much as I love recovery and it's congruancy to the Desert Fathers, the safest money is still on the Fathers
There was a shift where Christians were made to feel bad by non believers so they started claiming being a Christian = being nice. God didn't call us to be "nice". Great if you can be, but He called us to be salt and light. They both can burn and preserve and cleanse. Doing what is right doesn't mean no discomfort will follow.
Say it louder!
If you look up Fr.John Ricardo’s talks he says the same thing! Beauty in truth!
Amen!
Yes, Amen!
I mean he did but the primary mission isn't being nice.
That moment where Christ tells Peter "Get thee behind me, Satan" is when Peter denies that Christ must die which is also demonstrating weaponized compassion pretty clearly.
WOAH. Thank you for sharing.
"If you focus on secondary goods as the highest good it will ultimately lead to a breakdown." That's worth chewing on.
This is it! Weaponised compassion is what I have felt for the past two years, we sacrificed our children, our businesses, our bodily autonomy, our freedom all for ‘compassion’, if we don’t comply we are called selfish and punished. Urgh, it’s been so horrible.
@Phlebas And matters of personal conscience isn’t automatically in violation of that calling to Christian
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@Phlebas We're being called to give up our ability to participate in the Logos by not going to church, but this is the end of what had already been the case. The pronoun issue also asks that you live in a different reality.
@Phlebas Using someone's preferred pronouns is forcing someone to live in a different ontology.
@Phlebas You don't even know what I'm saying.
@Phlebas That's not what I said.
This is why God instructs us to keep our "good works" to ourselves, pray in our secret place and not seek approval or back patting from the crowd. God says when we seek the crowd, there is our reward. This is why we are saved through grace and not works, we fall short everytime and you are correct it turns in to pride!! We are compromising our souls for recognition of our "caring" for others becoming ill or dying.
Excellent point!
Isn't such insight you have arrived at a kind of good works? Isn't good works and grace one? The works is to set sails for grace to bless with the wind of God.
I like this. It’s got me contemplating what the word ‘care’ means. Quo thinking out loud rambling: ….. I feel like ‘care’ without the ‘caring’ (nurturing) part is smoke. Without the action behind it, the word ‘care’ is empty. But it gets thrown around so much. ‘I care about the poor’ I ‘care about the environment’ ‘I care about my health’ ‘I care about OTHER people getting it’. You would never have to say these things if you were actually caring because that is who others would see you as inherently if you truly were because that is what you embody through your actions. Actions speak louder than words right. Like the story he shared about how the lady used the expensive ointment on Jesus’s feet… she was physically caring for him. While the other guy saw it as an ‘opportunity cost’ veiled as ambiguous ‘care’ for non-specific ‘poor people’. And let’s say his intention was ‘good’ and he wasn’t a selfish thief lol.. and let’s even say it wasn’t Jesus.. he is basically saying this one guy shouldn’t be cared for because there are others who also need to be cared for. But that logic doesn’t stand because if you lined everyone up who needed care you’d keep going to the next person because there is always someone else so no one would ever be cared for in the end. Whereas I feel like Jesus wants us to meaningfully care for at least one other person because if you do that, everyone can be cared for.
But James, brother of Jesus, points out that faith without works is dead. Good works in the spirit of Righteousness comes from true faith first, but works on their own for the benefit of one's pride is empty.
So it’s doing those things (acts of compassion for example), “but in secret”, so that they cannot be claimed as in any way something that makes us better than we are, or increases the danger that is pride?
The kiss of Judas as a symbol of weaponized compassion is brilliant
This pattern of maximising social justice above all else is also plays out in a similar way in other spheres, where merely utilitarian ways of approaching morality fail to comprehend the importance of recognising and symbolising the value of individuals. Example: Josephine Butler was a social reformer in Victorian England who among other things campaigned on behalf of prostitutes, taking many women into her own home (she was a vicar’s wife). Many women were so poor that prostitution was their only means of survival and disease was rampant. One of the many women she nursed through terminal illness died in Butler’s arms, and at her funeral, she filled the woman’s coffin with camelias, which would have cost an absolute fortune in Liverpool in a freezing cold March. She has been criticised for this ‘waste’ but it symbolised in really concrete terms the value that she gave to the lives of these utterly despised women. The utilitarian approach which just wants to maximise outcome, has no way of including the value of individuals in its calculations. Weaponising ‘maximising impact’ of one’s deeds in aiming for maximum utility happens all the time but can end up losing sight of the reason for caring for others in the first place - each person’s absolute value. We see it too in maximising 'saving lives' with no concern for the quality and meaning of our lives. By the way, pity Marvel comics etc don’t ever feature true female heroines like Josephine Butler.
Dr Paula that is spot on. Great to see you continuing to contribute, hope you're well, thanks for the comments on my other video (had to take down the facebook interview after getting legal advice, but have edited and its up on you tube now) I remain a fanboy of your work. God bless Doc.
What an excellent comment! So many unsung heroes, truly.
@OSC Worldview Yes, that's what brought the camelias story to mind
Jonathan has the best comment section.
notice also how many people nowadays would rather be cremated or use for "science" and just disposed of. In other words make some use of my body and don't waste time on ceremonies and rituals.
Today is Sunday, July 17, 2022, and the gospel is about Mary and Martha. I was uneasy listening to the sermon today by our deacon. He said that the church is both Mary and Martha in that prayer and service are equal. He even mentioned that 12 verses down, Jesus identified himself in Martha. The only reason Jesus said that Mary did the better part was because Martha served without love.
However, I was immediately reminded by a quote from St Mother Teresa where she said, "though we are involved in social work, our goal is to be contemplatives at the heart of the world". I think she was the perfect model for the balance between Mary and Martha.
This is so timely and so good. I realised I’d been doing this thing. Weaponising compassion. Once I realised what I was doing, I named it “broken bird syndrome”, coz it was like wanting to fix the broken wings of birds. But it was to get virtue (aka virtue signalling). It was to feel like a hero and special and significant.
Once I realised it, and started to develop other frameworks or mental models for seeing this, I felt so disgusted by it and can see how it plays out in toxic relationships.
Whereas sometimes people feel like they love someone. But really, they love the idea that they have of a person, that then gets overlayed on top of the person.
It’s like a spirit, posing as someone. And it’s gross.
Pride can push us to weaponize compassion. Jonathan provides insight that helps us to recognize it in ourselves.
Thank you Jonathan, I've been looking for a good term for this pathology. I couldn't use Ted Kaczinsky's "Over Socialised" and Weaponised Compassion fits the bill.
During height of lockdown a security guard tied to stop me bottle-feeding my newborn as I hadn't booked the table at supermarket cafe. I said we'll be gone in a few minutes so chill, security lady said she was going to call the police on us "for everyone's safety". I called her bluff, my son drank his bottle happily and the woman was getting angry at my smile. I said "call the cops, we have a milk drinking baby threatening the cafe".
I think she got fired as I did a UA-cam video about it.
It is WEAPONISED COMPASSION, this safety concern
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty or safety" - Benjamin Franklin
That's a great line.
Ehh. What you described; you’re almost there, still at self defense compassion. To get to weaponized compassion you need a dash of premeditated, and two sifted cups of malevolence.
@@corinnemuir1542 you think the security guard wasn’t practicing in the mirror for an interaction like that? And most security guards have 6 sifted cups of malevolence at least ready in the wings. The only problem for them in this scenario was usually the mirror doesn’t talk back.
@@notaboutit3565 😕 Sustained.
I've been using the term "weaponized compassion" in regards to America's psychiatric practices in modern times. Most specifically for the diagnosis of Aspergers in the 90's of which now of course has been relabeled Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD). I was diagnosed at 7 and it changed my social environment. Children are quite apt to spot sociological differences between them (especially in a financially wired society) and it shouldn't be a surprise that children placed in special education aren't treated well. Both because of the special treatment but also the social repercussions. It's like a feedback loop that instils a sense of other into these children. Psychologically, this inhibits emotional growth and often causes them to repress from social environments. However, it doesn't kill the human need for community. Depending on many variables; the sociological environment, their family structure and financial stability, it can really effect how well they adapt to humanity. Oftentimes, it just leaves them feeling alien and very emotionally undeveloped.
After a long life, I learned that label did nothing for me but gave a word to behaviors I'd had that'd manifest because of my family structure (which was asymmetrical). What did it take to properly socialize myself? 26 years of introversion, 1 year of socializing with a persona (acting). A motorcycle accident and finally being happy about life caused me to bathe in the hell social media has created. People really never do say what's on their mind; there's always an ulterior motive. I speak truth and it frightens people. Only because life took my on a path to find myself, but only at America's bottom. People tend to say nice things or to give advice but their actions never reflect such values.
Labeling children at young ages is my definition of weaponized compassion. They don't comprehend how their mind words thus have rather disastrous practices in place that only destroy the individuals sense of self.
Thanks for sharing your story Tyler 🙏
Hey could you elaborate on what you said about your family structure being assymetrical? What does that mean? How did that lead you to display Aspergers-like behaviour?
@@benjaminvandervoorn8963 Single parented, mother raised. Without a masculine person to learn from, I adopted my mothers traits. Being raised in a chaotic family caused my mind to focus outside of the social "realm" if you will.
I was hyperactive, hyper focused, and obsessively interested in machines and physics. Treating me as other through my younger years kept me introverted as the social treatment I received only instantiated the idea. In short, the treatment exacerbated the issues. Most of the time, people don't think about the after effects of what happens when they do such. So it's no surprise to me why such individuals that are diagnoses find it hard to socialize which effects everything in life.
@@Helicopterpilot16 Thanks for the insight :)
@@benjaminvandervoorn8963 No problem, I'm working on my means of articulating what I've learned about it through video. In hopes I can finally reach someone that desires a conversation about this. Because I know very well the pain I lived with for 27 years, and I know how to help many out of the same issues.
As a Catholic, I’d like to thank you for articulating the natural order of worship and alms giving. Worship comes first.❤️
I always think of this every time I hear puritan types saying, "we shouldn't build cathedrals, all that money should go to the poor."
Yea no they're right on that one
That’s what Jesus said to do before even considering following him. But, oh well😂
@@carolina_grace5721 No, they're not.
I remember being surprised at the hidden cross in the Andrew Garfield's hand at the end of Silence. The most meaningful consequence of his treading upon the fumie was that he spent the rest of his days as a gate-keeper, repelling all christian literature and symbols from Japan. The voice of Jesus saying to "tread" and the hidden cross suggest that compassionate betrayal was what the Lord would have wanted, but the missionary's lifetime of slavery to evil work suggests otherwise.
Man this is amazing and put into words the way i am feeling these days. I used to call it manipulation but weaponized compassion is precisely what is going on.
I just got kicked out of my church for exactly this reason - someone cloaked their power with gentle words of compassion and unity, and when I would not humble myself and submit to their idea of compassion I got the boot. You are right to call it weaponized, because it is absolutely being wielded like a battle mace. And you are also right to call it Antichrist, because it is a lying spirit, and that can never come from God.
Kudos on standing tall in the face of this.
@Phlebas probably the 'procedure' pass
@Phlebas I think we should respect the privacy of the reason.
what happened?
This is a virtue signal which isn't always wrong but whenever I see posts like this I feel weird. Defiance is necessary sometimes but none of what is here differentiates your defiance as virtuous as opposed to just being rebellious. I know it might be a private matter but some details and circumstances would help. Particularly what makes you think its a battle mace approach and what exactly was their idea of compassion.
Thank you for what you do, Jonathan. You and Peterson have brought me back to Christianity.
Jonathan helps my walk. Peterson only gave me a reference to rehab.
Me too! Especially Jonathan
@@nicholasdonin1465 whatever works
Check out the work of Dr. Michael Heiser. It pairs well with Jonathan.
@@ghostgate82 how
Absolutely, worth a watch! Especially, in this age where many growing number of _pseudo christians_ and the _self-saving secularists_ claim that they're wiser than God, the Creator Himself and more compassionate than Christ, the Sacrificial Saviour & more humble than our Servant King!
It reminded me of Jesus's admonition to Martha: *One thing is NEEDFUL!*
An excerpt from C. H. Spurgeon's sermon on this topic: "As for missions: we appoint our committees, we amend our plans, and suggest schemes.. All very well and good; but missions will never flourish till the church, with regard to missions, sits at Jesus' feet. She will never convert the heathen in her own way: God will give success only when we work in his way."
Thank you for this much needed video, the subject needs to be discussed. In the 90s Camille Paglia called it Coercive Compassion. I was thinking of how that 90s wave of political correctness, with it's Coercive Compassion, got the wind knocked out of it (for a period of time at least), after 9-11, when actual compassion resulted in how Americans came to help each other.
Also, what you said about Benedict XVI and Francis is absolutely spot-on.
This is the most important video you have ever made in terms of needful, timely, practical help to the church in this difficult time. Thank you, Jonathan!
You knocked it out of the park with this one.
Jonathan you speak with authority. You have power in your words. God is using you in ways that will have an impact in the future. Thank you for offering light in these times of darkness. God bless you brother you have my respect, for whatever is worth.
After thinking about CS Lewis' essay on subjectivism, it's easy to see the Christian community itself can be lured into different forms of subjective thinking about their own faith. Subjectivism creates division, while the focus solely on certain true values leads to ignorance of the absolute values. The absolute value in Christianity is Christ, himself.
Magnificent topic!!!
Paraphrasing what Christ Himself has said: "If you love your family more than you love Me, you are not worthy of me!" There it is, He laid it out plain and clear, if anyone has ever wondered why He had ever said these "cruel" words. The hierarchy is clear, so worry not what the world says about this topic.
Excellent.. I think of this as sort of an institutionalized form of codependency, where people use their presumed virtue as a way of gaining status and or power, and making others indebted to them, emotionally or otherwise.
Great insights, Jonathan. You have given a name to something I have sensed but for which I have not had a label. There are so many areas where the compassion trope is trotted out (apart from Covid measures): euthanasia, same sex marriage, abortion, etc.
When Jesus was asked what the greatest commandment was, he said "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, and might;" the second, "love your neighbor as yourself". Both are commands of God; between both all the law and prophets are undergirded. Our culture wants to put the second before the first. It's remarkable how a simple matter of misplaced priority can undermine everything.
+1000
I was thinking about this the other day, and the verse came to mind, He crowns us with love and compassion. It occurred to me that a crown is a sign of royalty, and that a crown of love and compassion is a sign of who is the ruler of my life and of my kingdom.
In the original novel on which the movie is based, Silence, by Shusako Endo, Rodriguez does not go to his grave clandestinely clutching a cross, symbolizing, I suppose, that he did not really renounce his faith, despite the yearly public ceremony that he has been forced to perform. In the book he goes to death an apostate, his true motivations hidden. The novel leaves the reader to be his final judge. Perhaps Scorcese added this twist to assuage his own conscience. It certainly makes the ending ambiguous, muddling the essential moral dilemma at the heart of the book. You describe this dilemma with great clarity, Jonathan. Thank you for your insights.
It should be noted that the ploy of executing the followers of a Christian evangelist a la Silence was not limited to the Japanese. The Romans did exactly the same thing, most famously in the case of Justin Martyr, who didn't deny Christ while watching his friends die.
Amen brother, this spirit has been in our church from the beginning of the scourge among us. Many of us have been told we were being extremist or uncaring for those around us if we questioned the measures in place for worship. I believe the Orthodox faith is the faith taught by Christ to the apostles passed down to us from the church fathers; the church of the first millennia, their response to actual plague and pandemic was not like ours.
most insightful video you've ever made.
Very interesting that the term anti-Christ would mean that it would come out of a perverted version of Christianity or from Christianity itself. I always thought it would be an opposite place but it makes more sense that it would be masked as something from Christianity or principles of Christianity.
I think it is in accord with the idea that Satan has no creative power in himself and that he can only pervert what God has created. "Weaponized compassion" is a perfect example of that, actually.
It’s videos like these that I wish everyone could watch. Well said.
Weaponised compassion is right up there with weaponised mental health.
+1000
Great courage to offer this challenge in these days bro
This makes the narrow path idea easier to understand
I just recently found an article about a 1963 congressional hearing about the 45 communist goals in America. Making art ugly in America was 2 of those goals.
I finally felt some comfort in knowing I wasn’t going insane because I had thought that the art scene was just absolutely hideous for the last few decades and I couldn’t understand why anyone thought this stuff was worth looking at.
The satan of YHWH always perverts and distorts. We are to be the satan of this evil distortion. We are to be the adversary of evil.
The "art world" is so nihilistic and depressing, those it promotes and champions are so shallow, pretentious and wearysome. Artists with their own niches who pay the "art world" no mind, are the ones who are most interesting and of substance.
can you share the article?
The art world is (one) deliberately garbled and (two) nothing but a money laundering scheme. It's just to move globalist blood money around.
Art critiquing is simply apologetics. The form the art takes is almost never considered. All about intent, no execution.
Oh man! This elucidation was A M A Z ING!!! It's exactly what I've been intuitively feeling these two years and now that you've showed me tha frame in scripture in the biblical narrative, I finally understand. Such a revelation. thank you Jonathan, this is priceless wisdom.
Commenting for support. Keep going. This is good work.
I used to be a lefty and many of the people I know who are lefties are extremely compassionate. It’s sad to see their compassion being manipulated for terrible deeds. It’s why I don’t like seeing how people on the right “other” lefties as well. Othering each other means evil wins.
I will say that I do know some on the left that use the guise of compassion as a mask for their hate or superiority complexes. There are definitely two types of people on the left. Those who are truly compassionate and those who pretend to be compassionate.
Either way, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
I agree with this, having been raised by one of those compassionate lefties. What I have learned, though, is that the the objects of the compassion, and even the compassion itself, become idols and there are power-plays made in an attempt to compel service to the idol. It's still destructive, even if done unwittingly and with good intentions.
Studies have shown that lefties are personally not very charitable, while conservatives are personally charitable. That’s what I’ve seen: lefties call for the government to do what conservatives want citizens to do, including themselves in the word “citizen”.
@@sliglusamelius8578 True point, but as a Dutch citizen in a town which has a lot of volunteers because of the churches I would say that it doesn't always have to be or citizens or government, but it can be and citizens and government working together. And participating citizens controlling the local government. Abuse of power is a lot more difficult if the level of participation is high on the side of the citizenry. I think this is true in any given situation.
Big government with apathetic non interfering citizens is, in my opinion, to be feared most.
True empathy is unconditional; they would be able to empathize with those they accuse.
What I see is a desire to protect their own identity (pride) rather than take care of the poor, otherwise they wouldn't scapegoat. Always for power, as the solution is state coercion.
Another brilliant discourse Jonathan - Weaponized Compassion … manifesting in many visible ways today as feigned virtue and compelled compliance. Thank you for shining Light.
Ultimately, from what I understand, I think, for Christ, Freedom (true Freedom) is a bit more important than Justice. People can decide for themselves, - some are also will be willing to sacrifice. It all will shake down, by the Grace of God.
Thank you, Jonathan, great work, as usual.
I wish churches did a better job of teaching discernment
And when churches closed, I learned a lot. People abandoned their faith in God, in order to hold self righteous can compassion and/or fear above that faith.
A very important video. Reminds me of The Great Divorce and blackmailing people via pity.
Most important video in the world today right here. So much misled compassion, comfort, and supposed godly ideals
Great video. In my church, it is easy to worship from home (it's a lay-ministry, so families can often administer the sacraments in their home), so my sister was a bit surprised that so many Christians preferred congregating to worship instead of self-isolating. I pointed out that for other Christian churches, communing in person is a much higher priority as the church is often the only place where it is available. I sensed her parsing out which compassion should take priority...
Nailed it! All of scripture comes to your aid in this distinction, Jonathan. On Ash Wednesday, three days ago, an alter server fainted. Several of us laity cared for the server, while the priest didn’t miss a beat.
Hopefully this sentiment is passed upward to our hierarchs and they can see through the spirit of the age.
Unfortunately most at the upper levels of our hierarchies are completely beholden to the spirit of the age and obtain and maintain status by embracing the type of "compassion" discussed here.
This is very important topic considering our times and what's happening to the church, thanks Jonathan for your guidance and wisdom 🙏
Amazing Jonathan. This is what is needed now in these times, explanation of what is innately felt, but hard to verbally explain. It helps us to understand ourselves, situations we find ourselves in, and how to defend the faith. Jonathan has a great gift for doing this. Thank you and please do more.
Wow! Powerful, Jonathan! Thank you for this extremely timely word.
Wowza - Shining the Light, oh so bright! Thank you Jonathan 💫
At first I thought it was going to be about social justice and William. Then I thought you wouldn’t go there. Then you did! Then your rounded out the whole thing with an excellent summary: compassion in order to increase one’s own power!
Well done. These are very difficult themes to confront.
Amen! Amen! Amen! You have vocalized exactly what I have been trying to find the words for. Thank you for taking the time to communicate this message so clearly. God bless you!
Important topic. So much of it around these days it seems.
each video of yours hit like a sledgehammer, even though I'm plenty familiar with your and your brother's work, by now. keep it up!
Good to see a fellow Hungarian Pageau-fan 😊
The "weaponised compassion" has been manifest in much of the degradation of liturgy in the modern chruch (Judas aspect of antichrist). However, this very breakdown is a type of death, the denial of which could lead to the "Peter" like aspect of antichrist, which would shown in anyone who disobeys or defames bishops not on board with traditional liturgy. The TLM is being restricted because "God chastises those whom he loves", and we must thus accepting the death, (war agaisnt tradititon from bishops) while retaining a traditional faith, so as to avoid schism, disobedience and slander.
That makes a lot of sense. You are a God send Jonathan Pageau, God bless you!
Wow, we need way more people talking about this concept! I love this video, I hope it leads to more people recognizing this phenomenon and spreading the word and making their own videos on the subject!
This should be good. It is a major tactic used by those that seek to rule our souls.
I've been a subscriber for some time now, I was watching a Matt Walsh video when this video started suddenly playing, I kid you not it felt like God spoke to me through you, this gave me the reassurance I needed for my own conviction...
Thank you for this wonderful video, Jonathan. The concept of compassion has loomed large on my mind this past week, and this video only added more insight and beautiful ideas to my web of thoughts. As always, your work is so appreciated.
Thank you for your insights. I have felt the full brunt of the government for not being compassionate in their understanding of the word. They didn't choose to stand behind me with the club, they stood before me with boldness and made my choice an obvious one. Thanks again for putting context to my experience.
“Be strong and courageous; do not be frightened or dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you wherever you go.” (Joshua 1:9)
Beware of making secondary virtues into idols. Thanks Jonathon.
Wow! Jonathan said look out for this form of compassion in the culture , and it is basically the theme to the new Spider-Man movie! I sat inthe theater last night and said to myself, “Jonathan was right!”
Just outstanding
You put into words so excellently something that has been bothering me so much for the duration of this pandemic
Amen, amen. One of the most important videos I have seen from you in a while. Thank you for verbalizing this phenomenon so well.
This was a fantastic distillation of some of the struggles I've had recently. Wow. Thank you!
Compassion is a gift freely given!
This is very true - similar false representations of compassion can be noticed under the terms "moral licencing" and "pathological altruism".
Thank you for putting a name to this medical tyranny. It really does help and in itself is an act of true compassion.
Wow this is one of the most useful things I've heard in a long time. If only I had come across videos like this earlier in life.
Great video Jonathan. I added this video at the end of my channel speaking about 'Conscientiousness' and how it gets weaponized. Essentially we are saying the same thing.
This is a great observation, Jonathan. This also plays out in other social justice scenarios, such as in "anti-racism" where Christians of a certain skin color are asked, even demanded, to give up livelihoods, possessions, or other things to atone for sins or injustices committed by forefathers in the past or for perceived sins and injustices in the present. These Christians are obliged in the name of Christian fraternity, love, compassion, and self-sacrifice. Both left-wing and right-wing political ideologies take advantage of Christian sensibilities. But, left-wing ideologies seem to be particulary pernicious in that they obligate Christians to participate in their cause by using the Christian call to suffering and compassion.
So true
As chesterton says, what progressives think and do is down the road (historically/culturally) from puritan moralism and "social conscience"
Perfect timing! Thank you brother, God bless you. ☦️
Great explanation Jonathan thank you 🙏
Thank you for articulating an issue I was finding difficult to express.
Thank you! The time is ripe for this conversation
Thank you so much Jonathan. Very clearly put forth, you helped me to see some things more clearly. Thank you so much for all you do to share your knowledge with us--it is edifying for the body of Christ.
Dear Jonathan, thank you for this. It is an Answer on a prayer I have in my heart for months…. christiane compassion being jused like pressure and weapon also from other christens in the social happenings
You are so spot on! I just love your channel
This ties in to the scripture: Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. Being that to love discipline. rod and staff and be comforted by them is how a child needs and even seeks structre and loving yet firm discipline.
Such a good video, Jonathan. I’m not a practicing Christian but in my school I received a very catholic education. I had forgotten this Christ passage, it is wonderful for our times.
Perfection! Absolutely amazing 👏
You and James Lindsay share a similar vocabulary and I love it
Very helpful video, Jonathan, many thanks - Silence is one of my favourite novels and I have to say that I'm not with you on your point about that story, even as Scorsese portrayed it. Ultimately, the missionary steps on the picture of Christ because Christ says "it is to be trampled on by men that I was born into this world," and I think the subsequent stripping of his identity actually makes it a story of cruciform sacrifice. The story of Silence is that the missionary experiences God as silent throughout these horrible persecutions and cries out for God to not be silent, until he makes this compassionate sacrifice in the manner of Christ for his flock, at which moment he realizes that God is not silent because he is speaking through the witness of his own actions. This self-sacrificial sort of compassion is actually contrasted by the continual weaponizing of the priests' mercy by Kichijiro, the Judas figure of the story. I (obviously) find it quite profound and rich, if a bit scandalous.
I've often said that thanksgiving and compassion is difficult to beat into your children.
The very same principle can be applied to so many groups and agencies nowadays. Very good video, hopefully more people will open their eyes to this form of manipulation.
This is a fascinating take. Thank you Jonathan.
I really enjoyed the structure & presentation in this video - new subscriber. 👍🏼
Girard predicted this as an inversion of the scapegoat mechanism.
Monsieur Pageau, I'm a great fan boy and this is brilliant. It serendipitously came out when I was finalising an article about the same thing. Also great to see Dr Paula Boddington on line. She is fantastic too. I got her on my podcast after seeing her on yours. God bless you both.
Judas: I'm an empath, give to the poor
Also Judas: trades Christ, who was healing the poor, for money
Thank you so much for this. You make a very important point and it needs to be said. It is definitely an aspect that is easily confusing and has the potential to deceive. Well said.