Pritam Singh grills Chan Chun Sing on gerrymandering and LKY's position on boundary reviews
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- Опубліковано 2 лис 2024
- During the parliamentary debate on the motion to review the electoral boundary review process, Leader of the Opposition Pritam Singh questioned Minister Chan Chun Sing. Pritam cited a 1983 statement by Lee Kuan Yew, noting that electoral boundary committees were to consist solely of civil servants unless a credible opposition existed, and asked if Chan's comments marked a departure from this practice.
Pritam also sought a direct answer from Chan on whether there is gerrymandering in Singapore, referencing the Minister’s earlier comments about the Electoral Boundaries Review Committee taking note of close electoral contests in previous elections.
In response, Chan Chun Sing reiterated his trust in civil servants to handle the electoral boundary process impartially, avoiding political interference. He stated that the process remains unchanged to prevent the kind of political horse-trading seen in other countries. Chan expressed confidence in the civil servants' objectivity and professionalism, emphasizing that they have served Singapore well.
Chan also noted that the future government's approach could differ, depending on its leadership and priorities, but any changes would need to be justified in Parliament. He argued that while past practices inform current processes, they should not constrain the evolution of systems to meet contemporary needs.
Regarding gerrymandering, Chan sidestepped the direct question, reiterating his explanation of its implications in other countries and leaving it to the House and public to interpret his comments on its relevance to Singapore.
Yes, PAP served us well. Past tense. Not anymore. Gone are the days where ministers put Singaporeans First. it's all Foreigners First now.
Wow ! ... Spot on! ..My God. i love my SG brothers ... CECA out!!
Did he say HIS civil servants served 'US' well? If not mistaken? Who is US? His party? His government?
@@nickgoh8947 CECAs are the worst. I hope Singaporeans wake up unless they want their parents to continue working into their 70s. Vote them out!
PAP now is Profit Run & Predatory …
"'Hmmm...!!!"'🙄🤔 Strongly agreed...!!!🙄😬🤨
Vote this useless CCS out for the future of Singapore
"'Hah...!!!"'😳 U must be joking...!!!🙄😬🤨 CCS is PAP's "Pet...!!!"😬🤨 U think LHL will let him go...???!!!🙄😬🤨😡🤔
😂😂😂 PS only can talk well. If he is really capable, he should able to gather enough candidates to challenge PAP for power as government and help Singaporeans to have better life. Why PS only want 30% seat? Because he is not sincere in helping Singaporean, he only want to kpkb in parliament without doing real work. PAP performance is not great, but they sincerely helping Singaporeans with their best efforts even many may not agree with PAP methods. Conclusion is the real useless party is WP!
@@1965Singaporean U dun come talk cock lah, sincerely help? Only when the election is here.
Why is Loong still keeping him since his so many PR fiascos and political suicides? Because he is familee?
His teeth.....erm....very interesting....
Two different class of polticians....good job Mr Pritam....
CCS or PAP style, always evade the questions and give general comments that sound logical...
yes Mr. Pritam certainly is not capable to be the opposition leader
@@lamsunyong343, ignorance is bliss.
😂😂😂 PS only can talk well. If he is really capable, he should able to gather enough candidates to challenge PAP for power as government and help Singaporeans to have better life. Why PS only want 30% seat? Because he is not sincere in helping Singaporean, he only want to kpkb in parliament without doing real work. PAP performance is not great, but they sincerely helping Singaporeans with their best efforts even many may not agree with PAP methods. Conclusion is the real useless party is WP!
But Chan scholar leh. Pritam no need scholar also outclassed🤭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🫣🏳️ heng there is skillsfuture
I do agreed that the PAP government had served Singaporean well in the past but not anymore with these group of 4G leaders. Desmond Lee says the resale HDB flats are still affordable. To him even landed properties are still affordable as he is earning millions of dollars. And being a son of a former minister, he was born with a golden spoon. Are resale HDB flats still affordable to the lower income group of citizens ?
Huh next generation cannot afford to buy
CCS is also a relation of LKYs extended family. go online and check the family map. in fact quite a few have family ties to LKY and his wife! now understand?
@@moonstars6279its still expensive when i went to HDB Hub and check
😂😂😂 PS only can talk well. If he is really capable, he should able to gather enough candidates to challenge PAP for power as government and help Singaporeans to have better life. Why PS only want 30% seat? Because he is not sincere in helping Singaporean, he only want to kpkb in parliament without doing real work. PAP performance is not great, but they sincerely helping Singaporeans with their best efforts even many may not agree with PAP methods. Conclusion is the real useless party is WP!
@@moonstars6279 so change government can afford to buy? Like MY change government exchange rate get worse or better?😂😂😂
How can these ex Brigadier General and a minister lie in front of the nation. These is really horrendous! when he need to disgrace himself his family and millions watching how distasteful he is. How does his children think of him. His nose is getting longer. He is a shame.
His children will follow his style😂
Chipmunk
He was a major-general btw
😂😂😂 PS only can talk well. If he is really capable, he should able to gather enough candidates to challenge PAP for power as government and help Singaporeans to have better life. Why PS only want 30% seat? Because he is not sincere in helping Singaporean, he only want to kpkb in parliament without doing real work. PAP performance is not great, but they sincerely helping Singaporeans with their best efforts even many may not agree with PAP methods. Conclusion is the real useless party is WP!
Hello , Major General hor . 2 stars. The white horse
Pritam Singh pinnacle of perfection as the Next PM, very eloquence & highly Credible. He standout as the perfect example of World Class PM Quality. Many People thank him for serving Singapore and Singaporeans. 100% Vote for him.
😂😂😂 He don’t want to challenge for 51% seat how to be PM? PS only can talk well. If he is really capable, he should able to gather enough candidates to challenge PAP for power as government and help Singaporeans to have better life. Why PS only want 30% seat? Because he is not sincere in helping Singaporean, he only want to kpkb in parliament without doing real work. PAP performance is not great, but they sincerely helping Singaporeans with their best efforts even many may not agree with PAP methods. Conclusion is the real useless party is WP!
I worry our scholar system need to upgrade to A.I 4.0 else outclassed by the many Pritam Singhs in sg
@@LonganLee Don't worry. PS is still living in the 60's, will be decommissioned soon.
CCS
PLEASE RESIGN NOW
OBSOLETE
REDUNDANCY 💯
"'Hah...!!!"'😳 U must be joking...!!!🙄😬🤨 CCS is PAP's "Pet...!!!"😬🤨 U think LHL will let him go...???!!!🙄😬🤨😡🤔
@@zahidallapitchay9366 Are you, in anyway, related to Samad Allapitchay?
Hulk Hogan, what ya gonna do when his voters run wild on yew?🤣
Very brave n solidly courageous PSP mr. Leong deserving our salute n respect.👌👌👌👌👌👌👌💪💪💪💪💪
Proud and Proud party.
Not humble enuf to apologise when wrong.
But are they condoned by Singaporeans for over 60 years uninterrupted? This long won't lead to Erosion of good governance right?
What wrong are you talking about?!😝
i keeping see bad comments about CCS. I think throughout so many 4G ministers, CCS is probably the worst. No wonder Lawrence Wong got the top job in the end.
As long under pinky all are the same since in same flow. LW laggi more jia lat. A puppet of pinky n just an executor. What's the difference?
Evading answering questions, cannot win them confuse them
Mr. Pritam Sigh asked stupid and senseless questions,
civil servant not politicaly affiliated? LOL!!!!! CCS is arrogantly telling us that his farts don't stink. He is trying to Gaslight the public.
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 spot on
😂😂😂 PS only can talk well. If he is really capable, he should able to gather enough candidates to challenge PAP for power as government and help Singaporeans to have better life. Why PS only want 30% seat? Because he is not sincere in helping Singaporean, he only want to kpkb in parliament without doing real work. PAP performance is not great, but they sincerely helping Singaporeans with their best efforts even many may not agree with PAP methods. Conclusion is the real useless party is WP!
@1965Singaporean that I disagree. PS has been really civil and classy in the way he handles debates. The person you've described is more like Leong Mun Wai.
PS is not just there to kpkb. He's under pressure to keep searching for issues and topics to review. When he brings up something, he needs to make sure Singaporeans go "oh ya hor" rather than "shut up la, lame". That's not an easy job.
He's not finding trouble, he's most of the time saying "hey guys we should look at this. Is this right?" We have to go through robust scrutiny and reviews to make sure that we stay on top.
as a matter of fact, not all farts are stink..............😅😅
@@neorenjie 100% agree with you sir!
He is trying to evade answering the question but instead beats around the bush. Let us decide in the next GE by voting them out!
He need not worry as long as his voters continue to keep him in power. But we cannot say the voters are Complicit. Why? I am not at liberty to say it
If they can't answer and be transparent he sows distrust in his own party.
But many won't be able to discern. They have majority votes
LOL what a long winded statement that did not even reply to the statement
I know where is Mas Selamat. He is either in SG or he must be Outside SG. There is my great answer. Come, come, I bring you walk one round around the Ridout garden with my dog
But how much is he paid? He is only a millionaire
If cannot convince them confuse. From yes or no answer to grandmother/father story😅
People wonder why citizens has stopped putting up flags during national day. We are disappointed
Vote pap out
Definitely
Not be Naive … PAP rdy Drained the Reserves 😊
If you think questioning the system will sow distrust of the government then what trust do you have to begin with?
😂😂😂 PS only can talk well. If he is really capable, he should able to gather enough candidates to challenge PAP for power as government and help Singaporeans to have better life. Why PS only want 30% seat? Because he is not sincere in helping Singaporean, he only want to kpkb in parliament without doing real work. PAP performance is not great, but they sincerely helping Singaporeans with their best efforts even many may not agree with PAP methods. Conclusion is the real useless party is WP! WP cannot be trusted!😂
@@1965Singaporean he can form the best group of the most qualified candidates, and still the majority will vote for PAP no matter what... stop dreaming
@@mohsina9958 u talk cock lah! Now 80% of voter are educated, is because voters see WP take forever to form a real challenge to PAP, and don’t have the ability to unite the opposition. I have been voting WP since jaya era. Next election I will not vote WP, if no other opposition come my ward I will void the vote.
English is language where words can be spewed from the orifice of the arbiter of truth where each word can be a metaphor or spoken literally , figuratively or tongue-in-cheek and still be subjective to individuals it's meanings. It's meaningless
Chan chun sing trust his civil servants,meaning LKY trust him which means boundaries are decided by his servants.where orders come from lky which is the secretary general.
Is he able to sleep at night or cry in the night?
Pritam is talking nonsense cos he is not well versed with our historical past and only wants to educate himself by asking such questions that he can learn from. Whatever is said by LKY need not be held the same by present Govt as circumstances back then and now differs drastically. Even Opposition changes their policies when new leader is in charge just like himself taking over from LTK.
what CCS says is not demonstrated in action. In fact, its the opposite. What a HYPOCRITE
That what P.A.P does.
But then why his voters voted him for all his GE participated? Can they discern? I must say yes to be politically correct
Don't talk about other countries. As a government servant serving in the military before coming to politics, you were taught, though you would deny, to prioritize loyalty to the government over loyalty to the country. This is why you defend and protect the policies of LKY, who was known for shrewd gerrymandering.
Mr Chan trust “his” civil servants! 😂😂😂 … says it all!
CCS checkmated
Guys and Gals, only one problem : How to secure enough Polling Agents to monitor this time
Other country no such thing as GRC
Senior Minister and Minister mentor too.
Zero. GRC is invented by PAP😂
Then u migrate lor. USA can even take drug and buy gun. Bye bye😂😂😂
It is mind boggling why are Singaporeans taxpayers paying so much money for so many PAP MPs and mayors but we do not see any stark improvement since year 2000. In fact, now it looks more like the last days of Singapore with so many shop fronts and office space vacant for rent.
without GRC current government would have changed long ago
Do CCS mean that the civil servants involved in the process has to declare that they are not members of any political party?
If there's no gerrymandering, but I'm sure there's merry-go-round from CCS
Ridout has extremely large gardens, come I bring my dog walk one big round around the garden.
If I Gerry mandering it's called LonganMandering. I will only demand to be paid 0.9m a year.
look at his pompous face
Must not say he Pompous mah. If he hears about it how? Better not lah
Singapore is SOOOOO small. Surely by now all the boundaries that can be drawn and redrawn should now be fixed? Of course it is gerrymandering. Fixing the boundaries permanently dispels all doubt.
'My civil servants' ....for my clarity - are all civil servant agencies led by Ministerial pillars which is all 100% PAP today?
CCS is the side show Court Jester to give us comic relief.
All of them put up a straight face
This video is plausibly gonna remain on the internet for decades. His grandchildren can enjoy
Mr Pritam Singh is very sharp to quote Mr LKY, the implied gm is question but CCS didn't respond to the question but instead prefer a more convoluted approach. Why is that the case ? I don't see a debate going on. It seems that the quality of rebuttals are for self-preservation rather than getting to the crux of the matter. So sad.
Said with a straight face. But i cannot say who. I must be selfish to my self interest at the expense of the rest.
it is happening! CCK Ave 2 has a big wooden sign outside . it says'Keat hong' so now cck ave 2 is part of keat hong? so confusing
These teach their children the same moral standards they demonstrated. Their children are the Future of sg?
CCS body language, moving toward the speaking booth tells you so much on his character. If you study body language, you probably understand what I mean.
If you put more oppo in they will be very busy, but the still can answer in y must show data. 😂😂😂😂
CCS does not answer PS qns.
P.A.P always does that.
Why Dame never share Tiece, and Quatet👬🧑🤝🧑now im must keep my key secret🤵🗣🔑🌊🗝🏇👍
I am again Proud to support Pritam Singh once again. This Lion is coming alive! Majulah!!
I am convinced for Singapore to Improve from the Singapore of yesterday, only the 40% can effect change as the Majority are unlikely to call out CCS for his weak response and rebuttal and logic.
We know too many Singaporeans condone out of self preservation and fear of not being in their good books. These typically say things to avoid having to give their opinions when the policies are flawed or avoid having to comment when their leaders fail by conjuring a lie "Aiya, this one is the Bo Bian one mah. It's life. We accept. Why question? That's so rude"
Don't race to the bottom by finding excuse to compare SG with lousier countries. Their leaders are not paid so insanely high. Anyways, no one can debunk the logic and fact that Hussein bolt can only compare with himself and not with someone who runs 12secs in 100m race. Else he will keep finding excuse when he runs slower due to complacency and eventually run at 12seconds also. This is race to the bottom
Pitram本身也是个问题。
两边都是烂苹果，新加坡没什么意思了。呵呵呵呵~
再有尼可虾之类的通报，工人党也是LL的。心态不对，志高才疏... ...新加坡休矣。
Constant side stepping is called cha cha😂😂😂
You ask the clowns questions and they play the distrust card. What nonsense. They will not get my vote.
No point asking.. grc itself is already gerrymandering
Divide and conquer.
"'...looney tune front teeth.!!!"'🙄😬
But let's all be politically correct can?
@@LonganLeeHis facial expression says it all...!!! Nothing personal...!!! When hes' relaxs and confident, his upper lips flips upwards and his two front teeth is visable...!!!☝️🙂😉 But now, his lips were shut tightly close means hes' nervous...!!!☝️🙄🫤 This is what I can tell, by people's bodily language...!!!☝️😐
@@ongtayjoojames-ow1bs I dare not say I agree as I need to be seen to be politically correct. I also dare not say I disagree to reveal my position
@@LonganLeeThen don't say anything...!!!😶
@@ongtayjoojames-ow1bs 😂
No offence, LKY is the past, we need a new better future of great leaders
Keep avoid , no direct answer to Pritam's questions. The usual style of pupppppy. But still 61% keep sleeping and enjoying in high cost of living
Given GerryMandering is not Criminalised, can a future g turned crooked sugar coat the salamandering citing National Interest?
U Singaporeans commenting dont just key board warrior. Keep your words and vote wisely.
If this is not a dumb army general? Then what is? Heng ahhhh.... He is not PM. 🎉
Don't be angry. Watch some comedy by SG very own Jack Neo flanked by WangSa and YeFong
Sir, i like to buy a vowel.
Will banning Election not be better for Political Stability?
My Salamander says hi
Is he a scholar and was his scholarship funded by our singaporeans?
Wah… so lousy
why cant all turn back to SMC, only form GRC within the party later where they won and making it more effectively?
Letting new MPs with no track record getting into via GRC is not being fair to the voters.
PS talk so much no use. The motion will not going to go through. PAP will not allow the opposition to win more than 40%.
Gerrymandering is a serious problem in SGP?
if its an issue solve together, thats what the parliment is for right. if work out this issue = political? solve together la
😂 look at at his face, he doesn’t believe what he himself is saying
I know nothing about the ins and outs of how this works, but I can speculate.
I don't think our government has perfected everything. There'll be some gotcha moments. We'll discover areas of the system that haven't been thoroughly thought through and monitored.
The government is doing a good job, so there's no threat of the opposition at this moment. They don't need and don't care about gerrymandering.
just how is this guy still a minister? he should be the one "insulated from party politics "
Gerrymandering is morally wrong.
On this point, why stop there?
But back to reality, I talking about in general and not specific to SG
But am I right the SG legal system does not recognize this as Criminal Offence?? I no no wor
Do I get a pack of chicken rice if I vote like the past for their supporters?
Boneless?
Yes, drumstick chicken rice but remember to return the whole chicken after election.
Chan CS childish response is using the Parliament for his own interest. So how can election board be neutral??
There are 2 strategies to a conversation.
a) reaffirming the Question a.k.a Answering directly with facts
b) Redirection of the question a.k.a Siam
Keechiu always do (b)
Im sick of this guy 'representing' Singaporeans
Perhaps in the past it made sense and for the EBRC and other bodies like the CPIB to be structured as such since after Barisan Sosialis boycotted Parliament after independence the PAP made up 100% of MPs in Parliament. But now with a gradual opening up of the political discourse the landscape will look more like the 1956 in which LKY gave his speech about an All-Party Committee.
If I go to a shop and ask for Cherry but the shop sold me Mandarins. Is that Kay Long or Ice Koh Leong?
That earlier speaker still holds on to too much arrogance. Perhaps he should realise this state of mind stopped him from being much more. Hantakaki
Guys and Gals, why need to redraw boundaries when people shift house?
I have always believed in fairness and justice. PAP has always been a party that I looked up from LKY's time. I have always voted and praised the PAP as a very reliable and transparent party. When CCS spoke sadly I am now confused whether they are fighting this election fairly?
Cotton from the sheep make me till today. He still not admit and apologise..😂😂
But he scholar leh. Funded by tax payers?
Useless Cotton Man, just answer YES or NO???
This is the minister that think cotton come from sheep....🤦♂️
Sows distrust and disaffection? So what is the crime?
Ah Boy kenna left right center?🫣🤭👀🏳️🤣💨💨💨
What is CCS talking about and he is not answering the issue raised by the opposition leader but seemingly throwing smoke screen to avoid the issue.
CCS can lie ?! Nothing wrong !? VTO PAP , the best option in GE2025 ! Talk is useless ! 😅
We must not call him a liar. Call him a politician
Like tat we shall also not shackelled ourselves thinking tat the PAP is like some sacred cow...😂😂😂
GENERAL CHAN speaks....
The fact he cannot even say "no gerrymandering in singapore" , is quite telling... 😂
When there becomes No Accountability in Speech, then there is the very sign of Real Danger of many cover-ups ahead.
Vote for Change, for Singapore, for Singaporeans.
Ridout no coverups wor. Very clean🤭
Ayiooooo......Mr LKY, rested long ago and please dun keeps talking about Mr LKY, as his era is over liao.
And if they cannot perform .....VTO! to get capable people to run.
LO is so much more eloquent and well spoken than that useless general. Speaks like some Encik in CCK camp or something.
Why must wool cover the eyes, reject transparency when there is transparency unless the policy is vagued with virtuality. The amount of explanation unable to white wash the black dot on the wall.
Pritam and his Party have nothing to fear. If citizens think the same way their votes will tell. Try coming up with something positive instead of continually criticising government policies in Parliament.
Recall "i did not have sax with monica"
The way he made this speech is very careful... yes, just like the way Bill Clintom said that sentence.
Depends on how you define sax too - leaving it to the public to ascertain if there is gerrymandering.
@@tangt4860you are beginning to realise English is art is ambiguous
Reading scripts... ???
GE aside, the last 2 PEs(Presidential Election) has shown clear gerrymandering. TCB.
It was also proven by Punggol East SMC.
2011: Michael Palmer of PAP won it
2013: LLL of WP won it
2015: C.Chong of PAP won it
2020: Punggol East SMC gone, absorbed into SK GRC and the residents there chose the right party to represent them.
Without BG lee...the house is in chaos...like a gameplay Warhammer
CCS does not exude any confidence when answering the questions. I think even he himself doesn't believe what he said. To think that he was once a General in our army. Incredulous!!
White horse General
He is like the second Ng Yat Chung, ready to sink Singapore.
@@tangt4860later he take umbrage then you know . former 3 stars general , don’t pray pray ah
Who is the grandfather of cherrymandarins?
Holland drive is so much nearer to clementi and bt batok. But it is under tg pagar
Jurong West Nanyang is a GRC of 3 different GRC from last 3 GE. Neither it is nearer to Chua Chu Kang or Clementi but......I suspect it will be redrawn, cut up since PSP almost win it for last GE.
Hougang 900+ also,3 time election 3 time diff zone..very smelly
When Havelock should be under Tanjong Pagar instead of Jalan Besar. PAP is messing with our geography - no wonder they have no respect nor sense of space and time.
@@tangt4860 Absolutely. Well, we have a Cotton man earning millions. Haha. Maybe excel in others but just scrap through his Geography
@@williamloh4360 years ago, already had doubts about his scores at A levels to qualify for President Scholarship. Even his personality would not have made it through a normal interview.
CCS has indeed mastered the art of diversion and deflection from an honest answer. It sounds like a good answer but on a close scrutiny it is merely a word salad.
Come on, Singaporeans are not so silly to accept nothing more than empty talk and humour.
Actually it doesn't sow distrust cos this is what Sporeans on the ground are asking
Tis guy Mr Chan have one or two or three answers n no more tis is his style to reply oppositions
Empowered and Enabled by his Voters.
Is he trying to say less to avoid saying wrong things?
CCS look very sian cause no promotion n under paid n over work under lsl he is app deputy pm a little attas but under PM Wong he is another fly by night operator,paper brigadier general what do y expect n mind y most of paper general under lsl have fail.
Singaporeans must Vote for Alternatives and assuage themselves "I cannot support Lies, Deception and Pretense, don't blame me" and then cast the vote boldly for Change for the better, for Singapore, for Singaporeans.
TCSS
MG Chan ( NS) surely applies Sun Zi art of war. When placed in a difficult or disadvantage position, the best strategy is to confuse the situation. 😅