The battle over nationality swapping on the Olympic stage
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- ABC News’ Maggie Rulli speaks with athletes on what’s behind the complex choice of which country they represent at the Olympic Games.
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Why is Nathan Chen the image associated with this story? He is American born and representing the US.
Exactly. He is American. Quite different from what Gu is doing. Quite different from the other athletes mentioned in this segment because China doesn't allow dual citizenship. She is born, raised, trained in US, continuing to reap all of the benefits of US citizenship but working for China - how does that work?
He was mentioned because he is being panned over the Chinese version of txting Weibo . He is being bullied and celebrated traitor by Chinese Citizens . That I why he ion this zr5icle
@@nuanced8225 _Chinese citizens_ on the Chinese social media platform Weibo are complaining that he is a traitor to China for representing the USA despite his parents being immigrants from China.
Nathan Chen is a great American athlete who is in the prime time of his career. Hopefully, no idiot would say “go back to your country” to him like what they did to Eileen Gu’s grandma here in America.
Because he won a gold medal.
Why is Nathan the thumbnail? He is American. He never switched nationalities. He commented about human rights. Brilliant and hardworking young guy.
exactly. whoever uploaded this video is a racist.
Yeah. Why the heck is he the thumbnail.
ABC News is slandering Nathan Chen! He didn’t switch nationalities! He represented the USA!
@@bunkerhillguy2542 ABC News is not slandering Chen. They are only reporting that _Chinese citizens_ on the Chinese social media platform Weibo are complaining that he is a traitor to China for representing the USA despite his parents being immigrants from China.
That is why Gu and many others decided to leave...
Nathan shouldn't even be in the video. He's American, he is representing his own country that he was born and raised in.
ABC News is only reporting that _Chinese citizens_ on the Chinese social media platform Weibo are complaining that Chen is a traitor to China, his parent's native country, for representing the USA.
His roots are still chinese, and he is free to decide. Even if he were to decide to represent China that would be okay as well
@@RaymondHng *Why does China has to be considered by the west as adversary (Eileen Gu obviously doesn't and sports bring everyone together) - is it because the constant drumbeating by the administration they are going to pass the US in couple of years (which leads to the groundless accusations where you are indicted without a trial 🤣)*
Yeah, when anti Asian hate crime happened, no one care if he is American citizen. He is just Chinese.
Maybe he wanted to be in it.
Don't tarnish Nathan: he is an American citizen and proud of it. Also he is poised, self-effacing, professional, intelligent and a ground-breaking skater - a great champion.
The IOC should be worrying about allowing doping in the games ...sound familiar ?
Nuh
ABC does not think so.
@@willo7979 you didn't listen properly Nathan Chen was mention because he is being bullied and panned by Chinese citizens on the Weibo txting network BECAUSE HE PROUDLY COMPETED as a US citizen. On Weibo the Chinese version txting etc they are calling him a traitor to China which of course is ridiculous as he is an American. Having the other two CHINESE/AMERICAN athletes compete for Chi was a big coup for the PRC. I wonder if both those girls realise that if they take up,5he Chinese citizenship,they cannot also be duel citizens as Americans as NO CHINESE PERSON CAN HOLD DUE. Citizenship where as in other western countries people happily say they are proud to be duel nationalities
@@micheledix2616 Michele oh Michele,
road accidents happen everyday everywhere, but people keep doing what's needed.
Auto company won't show you bloody wrecked car on their advert.
Netizens are netizens.if ABC wants to cherry pick, makes mountain out of moldhill, well there you go.
This ABC clip titled "Nationality Swapping" and coupled with Nathan on thumbnail.
What should our first impression be?
Love Nathan while chanting Nationality Swapping?
Are you aware of the country historically importing the most sports migrants for medals?
And sports migrants came in, and some gone elsewhere, year in year out.
This Gu's case is not the first.
But ABC go ahead and single it out like they just woke up and didn't know this is a norm in sports business world.
i know i know, china china china.
@@willo7979 how mNy times does any news outlet actually get a story really truthfully correct😁😁😁😁 problem is sadly we have been fed incorrect, changed slightly or very twisted information 'melded into some sort of story. I don't think they really get it that the truth if often far more interesting and sometimes almost unbelievably better than 'fiction' or cobbled together facts.
Can't remember which country I read about that has almost every member of their ice hockey team is a foreigner. Do you remember which country that is??? Seems odd doesn't it😁😁
@@micheledix2616 Congratulations Michele, you have a very good fish-like memory, when considering 'historically'...wow...
Has anyone ever noticed that it's almost never the athletes themselves who treat this as a big deal? If the athletes have no issues with choosing which country to represent, especially if they have legitimate reasons (e.g. heritage, opportunity, etc.), then who are we to make it a big deal?
It matters when The USA trains these athletes many for free. It matters when they do so just for money forgetting the country that trained them. Now it has cost in The USA and China
@@lilnbigman The US doesn't "train" any of these athletes. These athletes spend their own money to train on their own. Now, granted, the US provides many resources for these athletes to train, but that doesn't mean the athletes who train here owe the US anything. Tons of US-born athletes represent other countries, and tons of foreign athletes train in the US with no intention of ever representing the US.
It’s sad they should stick with their own country but they don’t because they want to get a leg ahead
@@lilnbigman “ The USA trains these athletes many for free”？LOL，NO, your parents pay the bill
@@lilnbigman exactly
Olympics is about sports, friendships, peace and bringing people together. It's not about politics.
Yeah, who cares that China has an ongoing Holocaust that even includes systematic gang-rape. Who can blame goofy Gu for propping up that regime that is one of the most brutal, murderous dictatorships in the world to its own citizens.
She’d have joined the Nazi team in the 1930s of half German.
@@blackout07blue Nazi only accept the "master race".
@@blackout07blue i guesee she doesn't like the facts that americans are being killed in gun violence every week, or black people are kneeled down to death by white police, or Afghan people are bombed by american jets, so she made her choice.
@@michaeljiang960 lol I guess you haven’t looked up what China has been doing with its black immigrants.
Athletes wanting to represent the country their parents, ancestors are from is totally understandable and respectable. Idk why it has to be this big of a deal, politics shouldn't interfere with sports
It's a money dumbo
the reason why it is a problem in my eyes is because China doesn't recognize dual citizenship and would be technically required to drop her US citizenship. Did she do that or did she and her family get compensated.
Yep, i would love to do an audit on her finances :) she got paid HEAVY. People act as if literal white people didnt play for chinas hockey team. No money involved there. Just a regular canadian caucasian that decided its time to lace up the skate for china for the "kids". Ok dude.
@@shootstraight91 as far as i am concern, representing not the same as citizen of. In tennis, a player can represent country that not his citizen of. In example, if athlete from x country already reach certain year live in monaco they can represent monaco, without having a citizenship.
At least these people have legitimate cultural and family reasons. I noticed they didn't mention Jeremy smith, the white guy from Michigan and former NHL athlete who China recruited who is competing on their hockey team in the Olympics. That's who this report should be about...
China’s Olympic hockey team has 11 Canadians.
Gus the American representing the UK anyone?
@@JW888888 nationality is not race btw
@@lemondrop7305 Exactly, so why call Miss Gu a traitor ? If it's not about race then why the different treatment for Miss Gu vs the caucasian white guy in Chinese hockey team ? Explain that clearly.
@@bobmorane4926 It's because Eileen Gu won gold medals indeed, not just one but two. If China's hockey team won gold medal, I don't think those western media wouldn't shout about it.
Please Leave Nathan out of this mess! True heart of a champion, especially from his journey in PyeongChang to now
ABC is not with you, I’m afraid.
Nathan is in this conversation because he's getting called a traitor in China, just like Eileen is getting called a traitor here in the US. Chinese people don't like it bc he grew up in Beijing and is representing the US
@@Sophia-gy4ou your tone is exactly how ABC is framing it.
"chinese people don't like it bc he..."
did you get permission from majority of chinese people when you quote "chinese people".
it's plain wrong to have nathan on the thumbnail with title 'nationality swap', but ABC is adamant to go ahead.
lol ok and they also criticized people like osaka too lmao, racism against asians
@@willo7979 lmao the us here hate immigrants and want them to leave but then gets surprised they leave?
Nathan is an American period. If someone wants to change their country great for them. But don’t shame someone for standing on the podium for the country they love.
ABC News is only reporting that _Chinese citizens_ on the Chinese social media platform Weibo are complaining that Chen is a traitor to China, his parent's native country, for representing the USA.
Good. Nathan Chen can be the face of American entitlement
I think you’re glossing over some crucial details here.
@@theshupershane that’s fine. He is rightfully entitled because he won a gold medal dumbie.
ABC = America born Chinese 😁
This news outlet cover everything, they just miss the real human rights abuse part.
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I am using Chinese social media Weibo and I can barely find any comments about him, let alone anyone calling him a traitor. Stop being dramatic
Nathan is American, born and raised and repsenting the US. Why the hell is he the thumbnail? This is pissing me off.
ABC News is only reporting that _Chinese citizens_ on the Chinese social media platform Weibo are complaining that Chen is a traitor to China, his parent's native country, for representing the USA.
@@RaymondHng doesn’t make sense.
I can’t believe he wouldn’t want to skate for a country that has a Holocaust ongoing and is a communist surveillance state.
because the US corporate media are racists white people.
@@blackout07blue well you tell the Jews that China has holocaust too and see if they agree. BLM is a holocaust too.
And then there is Zhu Yi born in California and is representing China but the Chinese people hate her just because she didn’t perform well. People just want to praise the one that win and want them on their side but when they lose they don’t want them. Just be happy for them that they come this far and work hard to get there.
Not true. Stop spreading lies.
@@rhena229 ua-cam.com/video/cePeHJtplGg/v-deo.html
Guess what, if Gu wouldn’t be a gold medalist Americans wouldn’t care that much either. They only care because she brings gold.
They hate her because they feel like she took a spot from another deserving athlete because her father is a professor in China and she decided to compete for the country where she hasn’t been doing too well in the Olympics.
@@vkrgfan that why I am saying just be happy for all the people that made to the Olympic, they all made it there because they work hard to get there.
Many Chinese athletes are competing for other countries as well. Look at the summer Olympics table tennis matches you'll see it. Don't make this political please.
very well said
ABC kind already did, didn’t they? Nothing is not political for ABC when it serves their interest
its not up to us to make it political, it already is.
Gu chose the ongoing-Holocaust country. She’s a clown.
She let herself get used by the Chinese.
Eileen has no clue about Chinese censorship about the internet snd she represents them, that is embarrassing af.
Who are you to judge? She’s doing what’s best for her.
You must have a clue, show us, please
And mistreatment against their own citizens
lol!!! You have no clue about this world kid.
Who are you to judge? She wanted to represent her people. That doesn’t mean she’s representing their government and their policies. You need to understand that wars typically happen between governments. Not people living day to day.
I'm a very patriotic Army Veteran and I don't care what country a young athlete plays for.
These people are not diplomats or public officials.
well said. enough about trying to mix politics and sports. as you all should be aware this happens all the time.
As a "proud" army vet would you compete for a country thats currently committing human and cultural genocide and taking away democracy from its own people ?
@@tyrranicalt-rad6164 can say same thing for many countries. There are no clean governments. I don't think US is any better than CCP contrary to what you believe
Choosing to play for China despite the talent to play for America is pathetic. I don’t mind them who can’t make the American team bc not good enough go to China team tho.
@make...you are a 'wumao'--stop pretending.
The irony is that those people were told to 'go back to your country' multiple times like all asian americans. Funny thing, probably non of the people who to told them so were even native americans.
Nathan Chen is absolutely nothing like Eileen Gu and the fact that people make the comparison is laughable.
Nathan Chen is an American, born in America, trains in America, goes to school in America. There is no comparison to Eileen Gu. Nathan Chen is no different than Michael Phelps with respect to "Nationality Swapping"
ABC News is only reporting that _Chinese citizens_ on the Chinese social media platform Weibo are complaining that Chen is a traitor to China, his parent's native country, for representing the USA.
That’s also exactly Gu? But she also represents china…she’s American, she’s born in America, she trains in America and goes to school in America. Not sure why you’re laughing
@@SpLUrGe85 the only reason Gu represented China is because of the money. I don't necessarily blame her, but it is clear that is the intention.
@@CarolineElizabethMartin The only reason you are complaining is you are jealous.
There is nothingwrong with Eileen Gu either. She can not help where she is born but now she is here for America. America does this all the time swapping athletes.
"For supporting a country with a really questionable human rights history"
Uhuh.. You can say this about China but not the U.S.? Come on. What a joke.
Or Canada for that matter
Be honest, as a freedom country for US, people just choose what is best option for themselves personally.
Its a same thing for the news media, where reporting this to another level of controversy gets more attention. Why so many hate crime in Asian community?
its sad that we have to tie everything into politic nowadays. and force you pick a side. Most asian american i know actually dont care much about politics, and focus improving themselves.
Blaming others for their own problem is a big issue in US right now.
They should start caring about politics. Maybe that’s what got them in this mess.
American has a girl competing for China despite good enough to be on our team. China has a Holocaust ongoing. Fck her and her supporters.
@@blackout07blue LOL. USA is country built on genocide and still kill people everywhere
@@blackout07blue you have a room temperature IQ. Show the proof of the Holocaust in China. How about American Idians
@Jason Li Wuhguys being massacured. The tennis star and others who have been suppressed for speaking out and the Chinese Firewall that prevents you from looking up Tiannamen Square and Hong Kong Freedom Protest. In the US, you can look up anything for and against the US with ease
Gu makes over $40mm in China and is a celebrity. If competed for US, at best she’ll be on a cereal box. What a tough choice!
wut? She would’ve made many millions in America. Now she’s unwelcome in America. So she should stay in Nazi China and maybe tour their ongoing Holocaust camps in west China.
@@blackout07blue lol propaganda does work
@@blackout07blue american athletes dont actually get paid that much. its not like she did it as a political statement, she's proud of her heritage and she wanted to show it.
@@nobodywhoareyou7328 that depends on the sport in the United States. There are us Olympian that got deals from Nike, tv deals and more
Look around, how many scientists and engineers grew up in other nations chose to become American citizens. The choice can go both way. The world order is changing. Just deal with it.
Would you have chosen Nazi Germany’s team if you could make the American team easily? Okay. Gu would.
She’s half Chinese half Caucasian raised by her Chinese single mom. Both countries should be proud of her, no need to act like bitter divorcing parents fighting over custody.
she grew up 90% of her life in USA, she still lives here
"... no need to act like bitter divorcing parents fighting over custody" FACTS!!!
@Han Wu how do you know? Are you a legal expert or government official of the related department? LOL!!!!!
No Chinese...nobody likes Chinese
@@elijahvo4790 awww you just broke Han Wu 's heart
“I’m in 18-year-old teenager out here living my best life”
That phrase is as American as it gets
There is nothing uniquely "American" about that phrase. But it does have a certain universal-ness.
Does America own the concept of teenagers living their best lives?
Well I mean… she has said she feels more American than Chinese when she is in the US.. she still identifies herself as one regardless who she is competing for
Western (especially American) self construals tend to be more independent than Eastern self construals. That’s a fact. The comment, on the other hand, was a joke. Which apparently a few of you didn’t catch.
@@ttyyuuiiei and I asked a simple question. There's no need to get defensive here, it was a joke after all.
Other countries pay & support their athletes like full time careers and give large prize money for wins..Unfortunately the US doesn’t support its Olympic and Paralympic athletes like many others do at that level.
Those are usually countries that win nothing to begin with.. either that or super desperate for medals… why are you going to rely income on a sport that you only do a few occasions a year? Lol….
And the whole point of the Olympics wasn’t even about money.. it was about national pride and representing your country. Now it’s turned into a competition on who can secure a higher bag and more endorsement deals. That’s pretty wackity wack
@@matthewjohansseen3175 I’d ask you to do your research and see who’s paying out and how much. Then take a look on how much it takes to compete on the international stage, equipment, training, coaching, travel, etc…Then share your opinions afterward please.
@@brandonsmith3060 Uh I did which is why I made my comment… Olympics were never suppose to be taken as a competition where you make millions… the whole point was national pride and doing a sport you love to do. Most of these athletes get washed up by the time they are 25… you really think they are only relying on the Olympics to make money? Lmao…
@@brandonsmith3060 And if you want to talk about research, go and research China’s shady practices in recruiting foreign athletes and get back to me lol….
Figure skater Dianne de Leeuw was born in Orange, California, USA to a Dutch mother and a father with dual United States and Dutch citizenship and represented the Netherlands winning the 1975 World Championships and the 1976 European Championships. She won the silver medal in 1976 Winter Olympics behind American Dorothy Hamill who won gold. De Leeuw never received this kind and amount of vitriol.
was Dutch committing a genocide like China at the time? No? Then who cares.
@@nikikinsnw This thing has been happening at every Olympics it's nothing new...so why so triggered now?
@@blackout07blue genocide in China? The fact you heard may not a fact. Go to Xinjiang and use your eyes to see what is happening there
When Chinese people doing well on world stage, white people don't like it. So NBC stopped live broadcasting and focused on Ukraine because highly reliable intelligence told them that Russia was going to invade on 15th, no, on 20th, no but anytime now.
You're missing some key points. People aren't upset about any of the athletes mentioned, except for Eileen Gu. China does not allow dual citizenship, so although she always evades the question, she had to have renounced her American citizenship in order to represent China. Also, China is involved in things the rest of the world does not approve of, ex. human rights issues. People see Eileen Gu as a traitor for those reasons. It was a lucrative decision for her and people don't buy the "I wanted to represent my heritage".
The other important point is that other athletes who have represented other countries did so when the either didn't make the U.S team or when they were allowed dual citizenship. The Dutch and Italian governments allow dual citizenship and the athletes didn't have to swear allegiance to a country flawed with many human rights concerns.
this is politics at its worst, as usual. I was at the 84 Olympics all the athletes were very kind and respectful and had a great time of it. sitting at a table with all people from different cultures sharing we had interrupters to keep the communication and interaction going, and it was fantastic. when it was time to compete the energy changed to focus and perform and do their best. never was it hostile. I learn from speaking to these world class athletes that they were competing with others that many times were sharing the same track or in the case of kayaking same technical river etc. A gal from Romania asking if this was my first Olympics I said yes she goes We are human beings first and all the rest is politics. I agree !!
Massage Therapist for the 84 Olympics the first time the USA had a massage therapist Team
and China is having their own Holocaust right now in west China.
@@blackout07blue yawnnnn, same old unproven theory. How about show some evidence?
@@ly8370 "@ScootMagoot46 yawnnnn, same old unproven theory. How about show some evidence?"
scoot hasn't got a valid passport perhaps.
@@ly8370 denying
@@ly8370 Throughout the years, plenty of evidence have been shown but the Chinese gov't continues to deny them. They won't let international inspectors to check. So, if you're not doing anything wrong, why keep denying & blocking everything?
This is a non-issue. Similar country switching happened many times in previous Olympics. Some people are making this an issue only because it involves China and Chinese people. Everyone making this an issue is a racist that need to be condemned.
China has an ongoing Holocaust against Muslims in west China, and this China bot is lecturing us on racism.
I’d be equally mad if an American chose Nazi Germany’s team over our’s during the 1930s.
@@blackout07blue LOL you fools, even we Muslim don't believe in this bullshit Xinjiang propaganda. Now you wonder Muslim countries like Indonesia, Malaysia, Middle East countries don't support these lies? And are you even Muslims? Where are you when US killing and bombing Muslims in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Syria, Libya etc? Not in our name!
Nobody know how much these athletes sacrifice their time and their health just to become number 1. If they play for some other country and get money for it they should go for it. You have no right to judge these athletes unless you are athlete in the same leave as them. We only live once so do what you think best for yourself
Who’s training them? If they are benefiting from USA training and any USA money, they should be representing the USA. Simple. They shouldn’t take advantage of USA then compete for another country, thats BS. If they want to represent another country, leave them there. Let’s see how much they love China after being stuck there.
In the case of American-born figure skater Zhu Yi (formerly Beverly Zhu) representing China, she lives and trains in Beijing.
...left there and getting tortured if they try to speak their mind.
Her parents pay for her training not USA...
The most successful Winter Olympics ever! So many gold medals.
If you were born in America, went to American schools all your life, getting all the love and support from America, how could you not be an American or represent America? Nathan Chen is an American. He has no ties to China. His parents may have ties, but not him.
Yeah america “loves” him until some racist tells him to “go home”.
@@mwqjdpk Which are few and far in between…. You say it as if anytime an Asian person goes out in public they are being yelled to leave the country. Been in plenty of areas with a decent Asian population and never saw or heard any of that
@@matthewjohansseen3175 Keep up with the denial. Asian-americans are under attack but unfortunately this is just regular news for the majority of Americans.
@@mwqjdpk Okay drama
@@matthewjohansseen3175 thanks for "caring"
Gu is getting paid bank competing for China. No way she would get even a fraction of that kind of money representing the states.
One thing is for sure: because she is dual citizen she has to pay taxes to the IRS. Not getting off that easy
She is not a dual citizen. Did you even watch the video? China doesn't allow dual citizenship.
@@kellyanderson7624 doesn’t allow doesn’t mean it can’t be
@@kellyanderson7624 I have a feeling they would make a exception to give her dual since she could represent them in the Olympics. I also have a feeling that she wouldn't give up her American citizenship, since she is probably still going to live in America like she has been. For her I am sure it's all about the money, it's her choice to make.
@@Christenzilla I don't think so. I think she's a citizen of China only. It's the path of least resistance as the US doesn't care.
@@megadeuce-b7c If she gave up her US citizenship it would be public record. There's no evidence she did so.
Doesn't matter which flags, glad to see more Asian representations
Many athletes play for nations of other than their nation of birth or residence. The fact that Gu, a Chinese-American woman faces all the criticism while the 7 white American men who compete for China (Ice Hockey) and various others who compete for other nations, completely fly under the radar and do not face the hatred Gu does. Racism and Sexism comes into play, so please just say it.
this!!
Genocide Barbie got her millions.
“It’s only a Holocaust, and even includes systematic gang-rape.” - Gu
I don’t see a problem in this at all. It’s their choice, they can represent whatever country they want.
Indeed.
If it doesn't matter what country you're born in then why even bother separating them. Just have the best of the best.
@@DS-jv2vb I agree….they need to play for themselves.
if you finish 13th, yeah, it doesn't matter
Actually, it only matters because she could have made the American team. If you aren’t good enough to make the American team, then we understand you going elsewhere even if it’s China who has a Holocaust ongoing if it’s that important to you. She didn’t have to choose Nazi China tho.
Love how suddenly this is somehow an issue when many US teams in different sports have had ppl in the same scenario that chose the US instead of the other country they're eligible for.
US government didn’t just shove a passport down their throat like China did, China doesn’t allow its citizens to carry foreign passports, how does that law violation sound like
@@Raj-hg2dp damn didn't know China forced those athletes against their will to get a Chinese passport.
Leave Nathan alone!
I understand why people are swapping, doing it for their families. Let people do what they want. All of this USA vs China stuff isn’t new at all. Just a second Cold War per se. The Olympics are just an unofficial battlefield.
China is literally having a Holocaust right now. good lord.
Now that the olympic is over, why not we all just leave these talented athletes alone, and let them live their life. It’s their choice to decide which country to represent. Like what they say this habit of athlete competing for other country is not new.
Facts
@@maylily820 if you’re asking for facts it’s legit mention in the news video.
Jenise Spiteri was also born in San Francisco and she represented Malta, a country where her paternal grandfather immigrated from... Yet, there are no backlash against her decision. In fact, there are many athletes that do the same thing and the media doesn’t criticize them. Are people criticizing Eileen because of her decision or simply because she is representing China - a country that Americans don’t like? Athletes have to decide which country they want to represent three years prior to the Olympic. At age 15, I don’t think Eileen knew how good she would be three years later. So just like the others, she decided to increase her chances by representing China. So what’s the difference between her and the others that did the same thing? This girl trained for years and at the end of the day, she is just trying to compete and do her best. It’s her choice and not everything has to be about politics.
Well it’s the motivation. Other athletes representing other country for an opportunity to compete, as they may not be selected for the American team. Eileen, or whatever she changed her name to, received millions being spokesperson for loads of Chinese brands. China, a country sees Olympic as an tournament to show of its social prowess, and see its athletes as soldiers of the nation more than individual sportsman, is a weak winter sports team. She’s well aware that she is going to represent a national assertiveness, by joining. Other athletes may join non-American teams, but first of all, they don’t need to quit American citizenship, and second of all they represent themselves before the country, and third of all, they don’t get this amount of privilege and cash. She made deal with the government -I know this because China doesn’t recognize dual citizenship and there is NO path to become Chinese citizen for foreign nationals. It was her competition, but her competition has become a propaganda for a power that is at odds with her country. She allowed an adversary of our ideology to use her to advocate their ideology. This is what’s wrong about it. Many Chinese-Americans have faced similar situations, but many didn’t cross this line. If she competes for America, she won’t get this much media attention or contracts. Once someone receives this profit and privilege, and the entity that offered conditions for this profit benefits from this person, it’s a collusion with mutual benefits. Normally there’s no issue for Americans to represent other nations, but this is an exception to get our heads around.
Are you serious that you have to ask this question? If Eileen Gu had went to Canada she would not have received as much backlash. Plus, China has made no bones about their dislike of our country and their intentions of taking us down. So why would Americans not give her grief? I think the uS should stop allowing dual citizenship for countries that hate our guts and want to destroy us. China, Iran, and a few others
So the press and their PR teams should not try to shove them down our throats. Naomi Osaka? Now Gu? No thanks.
@@danielx40 How do you know that her decision was motivated by the endorsement deals and not the opportunity to compete? She would've received many endorsement deals regardless of the country she represents. She was receiving endorsement deals even prior to her olympic appearance. There are literally 3 white American on the Chinese hockey team, yet no one is criticizing their decision to represent China for money. Why is there a double standard? Even if her decision was motivated by money, what's wrong with that? Isn't that what capitalist America taught us? Tom Brady left the Patriots to play for the Buccaneers, because he wanted more money. Everyone thought he betrayed the Patriot; however, can we blame him? The career lifespan of an athlete is very short, they should make money while they can. Chinese Americans are always told to go back to China; however, when they do, they receive backlash. Also, I'm not sure if there are many Chinese Americans that faced this dilemma, because not every Chinese American is connected to their Chinese identity/culture. Unlike many Chinese Americans, Eileen was raised by her Chinese grandma, she speaks fluent Mandarin, and she spends 1/3 of her time in China. She is obviously very connected to her Chinese roots. On the other hand, Nathan Chen doesn't even speak Chinese. He may not feel connected to his Chinese heritage and that's okay. It makes sense that he never considered competing for China. At the end of the day, this girl is just trying to compete in the sport that she loves. Does a country winning one more or one less medal really matter? I personally watch the Olympics to support the athletes that I like - not the countries. I am also happy that they receive millions of dollars in endorsements, because they worked hard for it. You can say China is using Eileen as propaganda, but isn't the U.S. also using American athletes as propaganda to foster patriotism?
@@christyk97 I was watching an American You Tube talk show called "Crouder Talks" or something like that where the host criticized Eileen Gu, as a "stupid dumb girl." It was an all male show and I was able to feel the extreme hate coming from these guys...not from patriotism for their country, but more like an extreme hatred for all young women who are smart, pretty, and can make more money than they do. I stopped watching it once the host started to mimick a fake Asian accent, assumed that Chinese women still have foot bindings and mixed up the Japanese Yen as the Chinese currency. But as a white Caucasian Canadian young woman (21 yr old) I really took offense at the male chauvinist PIG display of the all male participants. It also seems female athletes take more hate than male athletes who decide to do their own thing as a lot of these media outlets, even when externally hosted by a woman journalist, her script may still be prepared for her by a male dominated backroom. I hope Eileen Gu, gets to do her own thing. If she is trying to make China and the U.S. less adversarial towards each other through sport...then that is a good thing. The alternative is to become enemies all the way until we nuke each other off the face of the Earth...I feel sorry for people who refuse to accept that relations can change for the better. These are the same people who will wake up in the morning and assume today will be just as bad as yesterday. -Diane, Vancouver, Canada.
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some swap strategically for benefit , some swap passionately for self glorifying
she received death threats for representing China at FIFTEEN!
She can speak native Mandarin with authentic Beijing accents, unlike other Chinese Amercian athletes who can't even speak Mandarin fluently
. A slow down in Uighur population GROWTH cannot be called genocide. Uighurs can only only three children per household, not six.
Backpeddling to cultural genocide doesn't work either because they are still using their language on a daily basis on newspaper, TV stations or streets signs etc.
What is wrong with forcing kids to learn Chinese in China? Is it cultural genocide if children of immigrants in America are forced to learn English at American schools?
@koume -- slowdown due to forced abortions, poisoned in the water, accidents..cmon this is china we're talkin about.
@@aromirsauro9092 yet they are still growing at twice the rate as Han Chinese, so is China committing genocide on itself now? give me a break
@@LSC69 Han men don't like sex--they are 'niang pao'. That's why Gu's mom F'ed a white guy..she's 1/2 for a reason----you dumb.
@Aromir Sauro pandemic in the US caused huge fall in birth rates. So genocide happened apparently in the US if its definition is a fall in population GROWTH .. like Han Chinese before abolishment of one child policy, having an extra child meant a one time fine. which is about one year salary. Uighurs being forced to have less children because they can't afford to pay extra fine is not that different from their western counterparts who can't afford to have children during the pandemic.
it is sickening us medias wont leave a 18 yr old alone
Leave it to the media to sensationalize and make more out of this than anyone else would. Sport transcends nationality. That is what is special about the Olympics and the World Cup.
traitor is still a traitor
The media sensationalizes because people eat it up.
@@seedleaf54 I don't have a dog in the fight. It's the Olympics it's sport. A traitor would be leaving your country's military to join your adversaries. I just don't view it as being a traitor. I have no dog in this fight
@@swim2kill uh, she kinda did. She chose the communist country that kills anyone who protests, does free speech, speaks out about rape, etc. China is also doing a Holocaust in west China right now too. Be less ignorant.
@@seedleaf54 corn ball
Yeah well, then? Quit training in the US if you choose to compete for a different country
American-born figure skater Zhu Yi representing China, lives and trains in Beijing.
Lots of Americans go to other countries to train . Athletes from around the world go to other countries to train. It's where they can get the best coaches, facilities, weather and dollar value to allow them to be the best they can be.
@@eyeonit469 Figure skating coach Brian Orser has students and former students from Japan, Korea, United States, Russia, Poland, South Africa, Kazakhstan, Australia, Spain, Georgia, and Sweden training under him in Canada.
The Chinese can shut it about Nathan Chen. He's a proud American of Chinese ancestry. They are just jealous that the best male figure skater in the world is American.
No mainstream Chinese media is critizizing Nathan, none. Even on social media, vast majority of comments about him are positive. Is it the Americans publically shame Eileen as a traitor on national Tv, which is completely nonsense.
@@drleishaobo baloney. Why have there been reports of the Chinese attacking Chen? Right now, China, like Russia has a militaristic culture due to a dictator having power.
@@drleishaobo China is like Nazi Germany right now. They’ve got their own Holocaust too in China. If you make the American team but choose there, you’re a dumbFck with no integrity.
@@jasminearmstrong2855 Have you seen any Chinese media criticizing Nathan Chen? Or you just believe everything you read on the news like a donkey?
@@jasminearmstrong2855 You are free to believe whatever you want to believe. I am just telling you that Nathan Chen is well received and welcomed in China and Chinese media.
It feels like the narrative is that if you switch countries and you're Asian American, then you're automatically a traitor. I don't agree with Eileen's switch to China, but here are some other athletes who have switched to other countries and there hasn't been a peep about them.
American-born Seamus O’Connor will compete at his third Winter Olympics in Beijing. Seamus, who qualifies for Ireland through his paternal grandparents, competes in the snowboard halfpipe and was the flag bearer for Ireland at the closing ceremony in Sochi, and at the opening ceremony in Pyeongchang.
Born in New York, Sarah Escobar is competing in the women's alpine skiing event at this year's games on behalf of Ecuador, making her the first female Winter Olympian in the country's history.
Not to mention, almost the entire China hockey team is comprised of Americans with zero Chinese heritage.
It's the sinophobia ingraved in them. Our only athlete from the Philippines competing in Beijing was born and raised in Utah by his Filipino mother and white dad. He divided to represent the Philippines. Idk why people are freaking out this is nothing new.
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I think the problem is that Chinese-Americans switch to China without truly appreciating their incredible privilege and attempt to represent a country with an oppressive and authoritarian government as if they truly represent them. Ireland is free, who cares if an Irish-American switches. Though if I'm being completely honest I think its a little messed up to live, work, train and use the incredible resources in the US only to switch teams at the last second. I bet if athletes who switched weren't allowed to reenter the US after switching then very few if any would be willing to do it. And hey, if you think you can represent China instead of the US then maybe go ahead and live, work, and train there instead. Same with any athlete of other countries.
@@ivanalvarez5511 she typical lives in China for several months a year before the pandemics. I think she genuinely loves China and knows what she's doing. Regarding training, a lot of top Chinese talents were trained in the education system in China for 16 years and went to the graduate school in the USA for one or two years. Then they work in the USA and make contributions mainly to the US economy. Does that count as switching at the last second? I think that as long as the laws allow, the talents should be free to move. Eileen will definitely make the freestyle ski more popular among the Chinese youth. It will be good for the sports and the sports brands, among which most are the US brand. I think she may also introduce some good US coaches to China. Good for the employment and will make these coaches richer. I think that almost everybody wins.
Do Ireland and Ecuador have some horrific human rights violations?
Athletes should go for the bag, regardless of the nation they compete for. If their nation can’t match what another offers, that’s on them.Good on Eileen and any other athlete who makes it about themselves and not the politics.
ABC = America born Chinese 😁
This news outlet cover everything, they just miss the real human rights abuse part.
For example
"The United States is the world's leader in incarceration. There are 2 million people in the nation's prisons and jails-a 500% increase over the last 40 years.
Average Wages for Inmates
Typically, wages range from 14 cents to $2.00/hour for prison maintenance labor, depending on the state where the inmate is incarcerated. The national average hovers around 63 cents per hour for this type of labor. In some states, prisoners work for free."
- Parkland father's is arrested for hanging banner saying '45,000 died from gun violence.
The GVA said there have been a total gun deaths of 41,917 as of 2021.
Evidence Based Research - since 2013.
Source
Gun violence archive
The toll of 283 mass shootings includes several high-profile, mass-casualty attacks, two of which happened within 24 hours of each other:
A shooting at Walmart in El Paso, Texas, on August 3, with 22 people killed and at least 24 wounded. It was the deadliest shooting of the year.
A shooting in a historic district of Dayton, Ohio, on August 4, with nine people killed and 27 injured.
- More than two years into this pandemic, the United States death toll is the highest in the world. The country is closing in on 900,000 deaths, and its death rate is alarming -- particularly given that the U.S. was the one of the first to have the vaccine. Geoff Bennett looks at why the nation is struggling compared to much of the world.
Why the COVID death rate in the U.S. is so much higher than other wealthy nations
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- The Sackler family became the face of America’s opioid epidemic for the role their company, Purdue Pharma, played in developing and marketing the highly addictive drug OxyContin. A federal judge has overturned the company’s bankruptcy plan that had been designed to shield Purdue & the Sacklers from future civil litigation in exchange for an approx $4.5B payout.
Approx 500,000 lives have been lost in the U.S. as a result of the opioid crisis, according to the CDC."
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I don't understand. China does not allow dual-citizenship. Did the switchers give up their US citizenship to represent China? I thought you have to be a citizen of the country you're representing to compete in the Olympics. Is that not the case?
The International Olympic Committee doesn't require that athletes have citizenship to compete on a national team - only that they can prove _nationality_ . Establishing nationality can come from living in a country for a certain period of time or demonstrating a personal link to that country through ancestry.
China can make exception for her case. She can break their law for only her
She ain’t American that’s for sure she Chinese lol
It is changing gradually specifically for highly achieving overseas Chinese.
Oh, I see. Thanks for clearing that up.
Come on. Eileen Gu now has a networth of tens of millions dollars. Can the US give her that? Plus these are just games and let's not make this political.
In America, we have no freedom to choose, speak, write, even to think. Pretty sure the USA is no longer a role model of human rights and in no position to criticize anyone today. Shameful and sad.
nathan chen, even if you help the american team win the olympic championship, be careful and pay attention to safety on the road, because there are many anti-Asian incidents in the United States now, because just like the previous Olympic champion suni lee was attacked, racially discriminated, and chole Kim is racially discriminated against. Anyway, these Asians who helped the United States win gold medals are not liked by the majority of Americans. Blacks and whites do not like these Asians. Just like an article published by the New York Times a few days ago, the number of Asian athletes Too much of the U.S. figure skating team.😏😏😏😎😎😎🤪🤪🤪🤔🤔🤔🤒🤒🤒
And abc
Suni Lee was not attacked. Lol. Some moron yelled something at her friends from a car. Unacceptable but calling that an attack is a little hyperbolic. In China you get literally get killed for speaking out, protesting, and literally anything.
I'm sure he'll be asked to go back home already if not soon....the amount of racism/racist attacks in the US are hitting new heights.
My namu is “Jacku wellseru” rery Americaneru…not a Chinese bot at all
Nathan is American!
It's funny they didnt mention the American who represented China and got bashed on Weibo because she "embarrased" the Chinese.
Zhu Yi's photo of her was shown though.
Guess social media in China is just as toxic as in USA. However, 90% support her although she fell and China media are positive about her. Too much coverage is given to the toxic 10% mainly fans of the other girl who did not qualified.
Nathen Chen is Chinese, Nathen Chen is Chinese, Nathen Chen is Chinese! That's his race, period.
I remember seeing this one meme when America won a math competition we’re only the smartest went , And The winners for america were Asian kids💀💀💀
If you live in the US and train in the US, you should represent the US. You can’t use the US’s resources and turn your back on them and represent another country. Sorry but that’s my take.
100% agree
Exactly. You live in US. Enjoy all the benefit of US and turn to represent a country that your family left for a better live.
This concept of African American, Asian American, Italian American, Irish American is BS. If you're born in America, your nationality is American and your loyalty should be to the country that you live in and this supersedes your ethnicity, culture and heritage. There are other ways to celebrate your families culture, heritage, you shouldn't be allowed to have your cake and eat it.
We never asked to be called "African American". White America decided that.
@@AKing69 I think you're giving white people too much credit. I have watched numerous videos regarding this topic debated in colleges and universities in the States and the overwhelming majority of black students would prefer to be referred to as African American.
@@daledevernon56 You wrote a key phrase..."Black students ". I'm an adult. 52 year old adult. I was around when we were called "colored" and then Negro and now African American. Most of the Black people I know (students and adults) prefer American. Black Americans if necessary.
@@daledevernon56 So no...I'm not giving white people "too much credit".
I'm surprised anyone still cares about the Olympics.
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Opinions surrounding their choices are like assholes. Everybody has one. But so do the athletes with dual citizenship. They're entitled to make their choice. They have that right, and they're are the ones who are competing. That's what it all boils down to.
Then don’t choose the country doing a Holocaust currently which is China.
If you want to represent your country maybe you should live there!!!
Why is this an issue? I don’t see Canadians talking crap about the women’s monobob Bobsledding Gold medalist who switched countries or American social media and press trashing the American born man who went to Russia and won gold on the Russian snowboarding team. All I can say is before Americans want to talk crap about the human rights violations in other countries, y’all may want to look at fixing the human rights violations within our own borders first.
China literally has an ongoing Holocaust in west china. It’s a genocide against over a million people. Systematic gang-rape organized by China’s government. The fact you’d ever make that false-equivalency between the two countries is so utterly pathetic, you goofy fk.
You get disappeared in China for the most basic human rights like freedom of speech, protest, anything. I wish we could send you to China, you stupid sob.
Think bigger. Why are many American able to play for other countries? Which really make America great.
Most play for other countries because they can’t make the American team. But some do want to play for original country. But if that country is like a Nazi germany, then wake the f**k up.
Ridiculous shouldn’t be allowed. You train on American soil … you represent America
American-born figure skater Zhu Yi representing China, lives and trains in Beijing.
Amen anyone can say what they want but that’s how it goes
One is competing for money/fame and the other is competing because he is actually patriotic for his country. That’s what I’m taking from all of this lmao
One is competing for a country who doesn’t constantly wage wars on other countries , displacing them, bombing children and women, but pretend to be human rights champions. Eileen is competing for a country who doesn’t waste 7 trillion dollars On wars and destruction but on its own people. Sorry you can’t cope with the decline of the west LOL. Cope harder is all I took from all this lmao
@@johnc1873 Lmfao… China has had how many wars in its history back in the day? I’m pretty sure they are just taking a break right now and focusing on effing it’s own people… good one.
@@johnc1873 and yeah on its “own people” that’s why it has such a high quality of life…. Oh… wait…
@@matthewjohansseen3175 yeah exactly one spent it’s trillions on the best infrastructure in the world, alleviated poverty for 800 million people. Has a larger middle class than the whole United States population combined . Cope harder while you broke boys haven’t seen an increase in wages in over 30 years with 15% inflation LOL. China owns you dog. Cope harder bahahaha have fun with the largest prison population and racism in the world ‘
@@matthewjohansseen3175 the cities in China are 100x more advance than anything in america. NYC looks like a dump compared to Shanghai Beijing or guangzhou LOL. Cope cope cope .
Maybe oversimplified the nationality issues, but solely for the benefits of common citizens, politician's ill-motivation could be criminal.
Yea sure, again.... try emigrating to those countries as an American and see how they treat you....
American are selfish people
They accept Americans who can’t make the American team. Even Russia does. My problem is with the ones who can make the US team, but choose Nazi China.
IMO you shouldn't be able to compete for another country if you weren't born and raised there.
“unless they’re having their own ongoing Holocaust.” - Gu
How about the fact that the IOC banned South Africa between 1964 to 1988 For apartheid.
So many adults bullying a teenager!
Leave Nathan Chen out of this. He is all American. And of course ABC News needs to other him. So racist.
If Americans are offended by Eileen Gu's choice, then should I as a Chinese be offended at the Chinese engineers in Silicon Valley?
I certainly am not, because they made their own life choice.
So why can't Americans just grow up and accept that America is not once it used to be, and some talents are starting to leave the US.
China is the equivalent to Nazi Germany. That’s the difference, you goofy sob. Go tend to the ongoing Holocaust camps in China.
Congrats to Eileen and all….but China can have her! Thank you, Good bye!!
It's her choice, nothing to do with a loser like yourself.
@@epipolarus china can have you too! Bye!!
I agree lol if she born in the USA she should represent the u.s country but she in a way turned her back on the USA lol
@@Kulou8 Nowhere wants a useless worm like you.
@@epipolarus haHahaha! You don’t even know me?!? Anyways, be mad…..cuz I said what I said!! ✌️
Americans compete for other countries all the times.
- People don't like the fact that she helped a Genocide Regime 🇨🇳.
How about chinese genocide, huh???
I think there’s a significant findings:
Physically healthy and fit people (eg. athletes) are mentally positive people.
You see more positive sharing than negative ones through their sharing on social media.
Stay with them. And you’ll stay positive and good.
Steer clear from some media people. You’ll be good.
Yeah, don’t cover the Holocaust ongoing in China. Or the complete lack of human rights on every level. Give goofy girl a mulligan.
@@blackout07blue "Yeah, don’t cover the Holocaust ongoing in China. Or the complete lack of human rights on every level. Give goofy girl a mulligan."
well if i'd not been to china seeing it with my own eyes, yuh we may have an on par conversation bout these terms that you use ('holocaust', 'complete lack of human rights on every level').
now i'd my own validation against these, i'm kind of understand where you get your message from, it's very stereotypical.
these are a few american/canadian/other vloggers, to add to your list of media channels:
Daniel Dumbrill
Cyrus Jenssen
Andy Boreham
numuves
michele geraci
Aileen Gu haters remind me of Cleveland Cavaliers fans in 2010 after the Decision.
Nobody cares that her moronic self didn’t play for America. It’s that she chose the equivalent to Nazi Germany (China) during the Holocaust despite able to make our team. She’s such a clown.
@@blackout07blue nigga you on every single comment
They literally threw Nathan Chen into this story to get more clicks. His alleged harassment on webo (even if true) is a different story and doesn’t belong with this country-switching report.
Well, what this TV program did not touch is the fact that Eileen Gu got so many famous brands commercial after she announced to presents China. Those brands may never notice her without the operation of Chinese gov agencies behind the scenes. To me, she is nothing but a typical so called "refined egoist". All of the beautiful words of "Inspiring The Sports" is just the cover up. She showed the Chinese way of Win-win situation -- China win twice.
Nathan may never be as rich as Eileen, but he is very proud of representing US. That's why I m so proud of him, and admire his parents who didn't lead him to follow the globalism footprint.
She could’ve done plenty of things to get endorsements both in China and America. She could’ve said she loved both countries. Instead she said immature stuff that made some think she may not be all there.
China is like a 1930s Nazi Germany right now.
So if China doesn't recognize dual Citizenship then why is Gu allowed to compete for China while being a US-Citizen just curious that's all.🙊🙉🙈
That's China's problem no?
First I really celebrate & recognize Erin Jackson's success. The first Black woman to medal in the sport, and the first American woman to win an individual speed skating medal in 20 years. Her story is wholesome heart-warming to me millions of times better than this ABC video. The same goes for Nathan Chen's amazing success and all other American Athletes in this Winter Olympics.
Regardless of an individual's nationality, nothing takes away every athlete's hard work and undying family & friend's support & sacrifice. It is a boring story for a broadcaster such as ABC. Eileen Gu is still a "Made in America" product and sold in China.
Gu would’ve competed for Nazi Germany in the 1930s if half German but grown up in America.
Product and sold out to China
Her citizenship status aside, i thought it was a bit odd, how she said, "When I'm in the U.S., I'm American, but when I'm in China, I'm Chinese."
I'm Korean American, regardless of where I'm. I'm Korean American when I'm in Korea, and I'm Korean American when I'm in America. I am always a person of both countries incorporated, and do not discard the other half of my culture just because where I am at the moment.
And that’s your legitimate experience. That doesn’t take away from Eileen’s experience. As someone of mixed heritage myself I can totally relate and know several biracial people who feel the same way
The fact that China is having a Holocaust right now that includes organized systematic rape of the Muslim women, I’d say if Korea was doing that and you chose to represent them…. I would hate you too just like Gu.
@@blackout07blue do you really want to play the “who is worse?” game?
@@blackout07blueSustematic rape of whom? You're a shining example of a brainwashed western media propaganda...you have zero evidence. And the Muslim holocaust as a result of the illegal US led wars in the middle east?
@@archangel7052 aww snap my guy brought in causation into the discussion…might hurt his brain, these people aren’t used to complex ideas like cause and effect…
Not gonna be a fan of Gu.
The Chinese are mad because Nathan Chen beat Yuruzu Hanyu who is a favorite in China. They are also jealous because Nathan won the gold medal for us and not for them.
They have zero human rights in China either. I’d be mad over every little thing if my life was that pathetic.
nah, because Nathan tried to please the American media by saying, yeah China has bad human rights record, blah blah. He didn't realize that Chinese watch his interviews. Whatever he said would become public and so the Chinese got pissed off at him. It was like the Dixie Chicks said they didn't like G Bush while in UK, then the Americans found out and they lost all of their country music fans.
Lol you don't know what you are talking about Kelly.. yuzuru is japanese.. what favorite? Chinese hate Japanese historically due to what happened in ww2. If they think Nathan should represent china it is because of their stupid nationalistic ideology. (Well..US too operates under nationalism but I guess in a healthier dose). Not everyone is jealous of being American
Anyone can download a vpn. Oh I was laughing so hard at that one.
Gu is an opportunist for her financial interest.
Ffs….Karens from both US and China are just being salty af…. both Eileen and Nathan decided to do what they thought would be happy for them..good for them!
I wish both of them be the best athletes they can be .
So genocide means nothing to you, racist nazi trash?
@@kevin6293 dude. I'm a proud American who I believe I have my freedom to express my opinions. I also rooted for both Nathan and Eileen. So I don't think I'm the racist here - you are actually being like a cretin by trolling and calling out racial slur to Americans.
@@SalseroCoreano like I said, genocide means nothing to you. How many people do you have locked in your basement at the moment?
@@kevin6293 keep on trollin. you have your rights. I have mine.
@@SalseroCoreano no one is infringing on your rights, moron.
What i don't get is people equating opposing human rights abuses publicly does not mean they actually believe in what they are saying.it might be for clout
Making the thumbnail Nathan Chen as if he ever switched nationalities. Not cool, ABC
ABC News is only reporting that _Chinese citizens_ on the Chinese social media platform Weibo are complaining that Chen is a traitor to China, his parent's native country, for representing the USA.
The corporations suck up to China. They keep posting that Gu idiot’s highlights when nobody cares.
A lot of them do it because they wouldn’t even be on the Olympic team in the other country
Honestly for me it all screams traitor, I am an African that migrated to Sweden after facing political persecution in my home country. I have a daughter born here now, I can't imagine my daughter representing my origin country and not represent this country that gave us all the opportunity and a new life that my home country wouldn't. It would be betrayal to this great nation in my own eyes. But of course it would be her own decision.
Eileen doesn’t care she’s being used as a propaganda doll cause she’s getting good money
It would be different if they were representing US.....what a hypocrite.
Is That Matter ?
The Most Matter is Determination of the Sportman and the Sportswoman not about the nationality issue or even politic issue
I don't understand why Chinese citizens would bash Nathan Chen, he was born and raised in the country he represents. I don't understand why they would feel like he would need to compete for them. I also don't understand why anyone would compete for them after the bullying of the US Chinese womens figure skater who represented them and then fell during her program.
Exactly why it’s funny when gu represent another country she isn’t born should leave mine tbh
Gu is overseeing China’s Holocaust camps now.
Wow, telling the people of China who don’t have internet freedom to simply download VPN is really telling....🤦🏼♀️
It makes no sense to blame individuals because all they do is try to get the most out of this tough life. After all we all do what's best for us, and we all are selfish. And as long as the rules allow this will keep happening. But the Olympic Games Committee can and must modify the rules so that they will put a stop to all this nonsense.
If Nathan Chen didn't win a medal they would call him Chinese, if he wins gold they call him American that's the reality. If Nathan wasn't as good as he was he'd be called a chink or gook and that's about it. If Eileen Gu wasn't a gold medallist contender they wouldn't even talk about her. There's so many athletes that represent countries they're not affiliated with, at least Eileen Gu is half Chinese and speaks Chinese