Very helpful information - thank you. I like the Garmin Echomap UHD2, 7" model, but I'm unable to find one that comes bundled with the GT56 transducer. I've seen video's the show the difference in detail between the GT54 and GT56 transducers, and there's enought definition difference for me to want the GT56. I believe the 9" UHD2 comes with the GT56 transducer, but the 7" does not. I'm purchasing this for my Kayak, and really would prefer the 7" in.
I'm looking at the uhd2 53cv. From what I understand this base model will come with a basic set of maps that doesn't require an additional map purchase upgrade? I see some units that are just the unit and others that offer the navonics+ inland maps with the unit. Thanks!
In general, the TI units are faster in response to inputs. This is seen when quickly switching between sonar, downscan, chart, and split screens ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxeAxH15LxhjGlg5-CRYqjTGTEH0tbY4vk recommend The Hook units will show some lag on button pushes and screen switching. The big ticket item though is maps. If you install a mapping card such as Navionics or the free C-Map Genesis which has a lot of map detail, then moving around the map with the cursor or when running down the lake can lag significantly on the Hook units, but is seamless with the TI units.
If you want nothing but headaches, so far, this is the chartplotter for you. What do I know, this could be best in class as I don't have another one from a different company (yet), but I have not had a good experience so far. Active Captain is buggy and crashes. Charts don't move over to the plotter from phone. They did at one time but now, no. When it did work, if your phone sleeps, problems, so you have to stay on top of your phone, you just can't leave it. Make sure your phone battery is full. Settings across one chart to the next don't correlate, (depth contours IE.) In essence you have three charts, nav, fishing and in my case relief. One doesn't talk to the other, they work independently. This is annoying because your settings are different for each but the setting don't carry over. Not to mention, some settings you can see from one to the next but don't work on all charts. Settings on one chart (let's say something simple like heads up or north up) are for that chart only, you have to go through each chart and set the settings ad nauseum. In theory, sharing depth data as a community may seem like a good idea, but in practice, all it does is make your chart look messy. Thank god you can turn it off. Chart settings should stay the same or at least make a setting, to make it the same, across all charts. Won't stay connected to bluetooth and you have to reset the bluetooth connection every time you restart active captain. If you try and move charts over using active captain they don't move. They tell you to use garmin express and it says "trouble with connecting to server", as I bought the new relief shading, you can download one or the other, won't do both. Is one just an upgrade of the other? Who knows? They can't bother to tell you if you need just one or both. If you need both how can you download it? No directions anywhere mentioning Garmin Express and just downloading the whole chart set but when you do this the machine is very laggy. Active Captain and the plotter are never in sync, one will say updating, the other says validating or transfer failed. Their answer is factory resets and uninstalls and reinstalls. When will I ever get to use the thing? Told them about the bluetooth problem, get "it works for us??" I haven't even installed it yet to see how the fish finder works, as I can't get it off of my desk. Two things strike me as odd. Why the need for active captain at all? It has wifi, would make more sense to make a computer app, connect the charter to wifi at home and move the data that way. Secondly, you need active captain running in order to get bluetooth, when it is working. It is an unnecessary hinderance. The app should be an addon, not a requirement out on the water. This is just to name a few. The software needs serious work, a 1200 dollar toy should not be painful this to set up. One last thing, the indicator for whether the item is selected is green over a gray green background. Very hard to see. I really want to like the machine so I will put in the work. Going to try one more time by doing a hard reset and complete uninstall of the software on phone, including all data. Will update if I have better luck..or return it.
@@lilkevo88 After a complete reset both computer, phone and device, I got it to work as far as the maps. However, the unit still has to be reset/repaired every time for bluetooth connection. Am I going to have to do this every time things get wonky? However, I still for the life of me do not understand why it needs the phone as an interface. Again, in theory, wanting updates of depth contours in real time should be an option but I find the trails going across my maps where other boaters have gone looks messy and distracting. Moving maps from phone to unit is cumbersome and glitchy. I ended up using garmin connect to move the maps. However, you have to take the card out of the unit, put it into your computer, grab the maps, and then put card back into machine and see if you got what you want. They are using the wrong middle man. I don't know about you, but for me it make more sense that it worked wirelessly with both computer and phone. A computer is much easier to work on. Lot's of potential, poorly implemented.
Never ever get one that is not touch screen... It is so frustrating that you will upgrade to the touch screen. ... It goes without saying get the biggest screen you can as well. It's not just the screen size but the speed of it they put more money into making it actually work in larger more expensive ones. Not as laggy. The quality is differentiated in these units with size and features. Smaller units do not just save on screen size.... They simply don't perform as well
The first thing you get is a lastic transducer mount so it can break off and end up in your prop in less than a year, which is when they want you to pay another 200 dollars for subscription fees, want to hit the lake instead of salt for the weekend, that's another 200 a year on top of your 900 dollar purchase of the tiniest screen that borderline useless more than a few inches away from your face. If you want to use your tablet, instead of coughing up 1500 for a bigger screen, too bad... active captain is terrible, you will need to buy a whole other Garin device just to have a useful second screen. Everything about this thing is crap. Military or Public service? Enjoy no discount at all... Garmin hates you, everyone else and America. I regret this purchase and will be returning it.
Thanks for showing the pricing but not saying it. My wife is just across the room.
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lol thats why i have headphones
Just laughed so hard I got tears
Very helpful information - thank you. I like the Garmin Echomap UHD2, 7" model, but I'm unable to find one that comes bundled with the GT56 transducer. I've seen video's the show the difference in detail between the GT54 and GT56 transducers, and there's enought definition difference for me to want the GT56. I believe the 9" UHD2 comes with the GT56 transducer, but the 7" does not. I'm purchasing this for my Kayak, and really would prefer the 7" in.
I'm looking at the uhd2 53cv. From what I understand this base model will come with a basic set of maps that doesn't require an additional map purchase upgrade? I see some units that are just the unit and others that offer the navonics+ inland maps with the unit. Thanks!
Yes the uhd2 units come with built in maps.
In general, the TI units are faster in response to inputs. This is seen when quickly switching between sonar, downscan, chart, and split screens ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxeAxH15LxhjGlg5-CRYqjTGTEH0tbY4vk recommend The Hook units will show some lag on button pushes and screen switching. The big ticket item though is maps. If you install a mapping card such as Navionics or the free C-Map Genesis which has a lot of map detail, then moving around the map with the cursor or when running down the lake can lag significantly on the Hook units, but is seamless with the TI units.
Great video Marc, keep it up
Thanks and you as well looks like your channel has been doing good!
If you want nothing but headaches, so far, this is the chartplotter for you. What do I know, this could be best in class as I don't have another one from a different company (yet), but I have not had a good experience so far. Active Captain is buggy and crashes. Charts don't move over to the plotter from phone. They did at one time but now, no. When it did work, if your phone sleeps, problems, so you have to stay on top of your phone, you just can't leave it. Make sure your phone battery is full. Settings across one chart to the next don't correlate, (depth contours IE.) In essence you have three charts, nav, fishing and in my case relief. One doesn't talk to the other, they work independently. This is annoying because your settings are different for each but the setting don't carry over. Not to mention, some settings you can see from one to the next but don't work on all charts. Settings on one chart (let's say something simple like heads up or north up) are for that chart only, you have to go through each chart and set the settings ad nauseum. In theory, sharing depth data as a community may seem like a good idea, but in practice, all it does is make your chart look messy. Thank god you can turn it off. Chart settings should stay the same or at least make a setting, to make it the same, across all charts. Won't stay connected to bluetooth and you have to reset the bluetooth connection every time you restart active captain. If you try and move charts over using active captain they don't move. They tell you to use garmin express and it says "trouble with connecting to server", as I bought the new relief shading, you can download one or the other, won't do both. Is one just an upgrade of the other? Who knows? They can't bother to tell you if you need just one or both. If you need both how can you download it? No directions anywhere mentioning Garmin Express and just downloading the whole chart set but when you do this the machine is very laggy. Active Captain and the plotter are never in sync, one will say updating, the other says validating or transfer failed. Their answer is factory resets and uninstalls and reinstalls. When will I ever get to use the thing? Told them about the bluetooth problem, get "it works for us??" I haven't even installed it yet to see how the fish finder works, as I can't get it off of my desk. Two things strike me as odd. Why the need for active captain at all? It has wifi, would make more sense to make a computer app, connect the charter to wifi at home and move the data that way. Secondly, you need active captain running in order to get bluetooth, when it is working. It is an unnecessary hinderance. The app should be an addon, not a requirement out on the water. This is just to name a few. The software needs serious work, a 1200 dollar toy should not be painful this to set up. One last thing, the indicator for whether the item is selected is green over a gray green background. Very hard to see. I really want to like the machine so I will put in the work. Going to try one more time by doing a hard reset and complete uninstall of the software on phone, including all data. Will update if I have better luck..or return it.
How'd you go? Still no good, or good?
@@lilkevo88 After a complete reset both computer, phone and device, I got it to work as far as the maps. However, the unit still has to be reset/repaired every time for bluetooth connection. Am I going to have to do this every time things get wonky? However, I still for the life of me do not understand why it needs the phone as an interface. Again, in theory, wanting updates of depth contours in real time should be an option but I find the trails going across my maps where other boaters have gone looks messy and distracting. Moving maps from phone to unit is cumbersome and glitchy. I ended up using garmin connect to move the maps. However, you have to take the card out of the unit, put it into your computer, grab the maps, and then put card back into machine and see if you got what you want. They are using the wrong middle man. I don't know about you, but for me it make more sense that it worked wirelessly with both computer and phone. A computer is much easier to work on. Lot's of potential, poorly implemented.
Has anyone used the UHD2 9" for offshore fishing? How did it perform with the GT56UHD-TM transducer?
Very good video!
Thank you I had to create this updated video with the new units.
Sucks you can’t use active captain hull for the UHD2
Mate I got the Garmin echomap 75cv no side vu, any idea what transducer I can upgrade on it? Only came with gt24 thanks
You will need a gt54 or 56
Never ever get one that is not touch screen... It is so frustrating that you will upgrade to the touch screen. ... It goes without saying get the biggest screen you can as well. It's not just the screen size but the speed of it they put more money into making it actually work in larger more expensive ones. Not as laggy. The quality is differentiated in these units with size and features. Smaller units do not just save on screen size.... They simply don't perform as well
i prefer no touch screen, to many smudge marks and finger prints on screen. Not sure how well it performs in wet weather.
pretty sure you’re mixing up your transducers bub the gt56 is better and comes w the uhd2
Gt56 vs gt54 is up to your personal preference. Also at the time of filming Garmin had only released the non touch UHD2s.
@@Marcs_TVit’s very confusing! I’ve been researching 2 weeks and still get confused from what different people say! Lol
Yea it does not help that the uhd2 touch models are very different from the UHD2 non touch models.
The first thing you get is a lastic transducer mount so it can break off and end up in your prop in less than a year, which is when they want you to pay another 200 dollars for subscription fees, want to hit the lake instead of salt for the weekend, that's another 200 a year on top of your 900 dollar purchase of the tiniest screen that borderline useless more than a few inches away from your face. If you want to use your tablet, instead of coughing up 1500 for a bigger screen, too bad... active captain is terrible, you will need to buy a whole other Garin device just to have a useful second screen. Everything about this thing is crap. Military or Public service? Enjoy no discount at all... Garmin hates you, everyone else and America. I regret this purchase and will be returning it.
take a vp class