“Originated by Satan:” Ellen G. White’s Concept of American Slavery - Benjamin Baker

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  • Benjamin Baker, PhD, lectures in literature, religion, and composition at the University of Maryland and Howard University. He has published six books and more than 100 articles on the Adventist past, in publications as diverse as Church History, American Jewish History, and Vermont History. His research has been cited in The New York Times and The Washington Post. Baker is currently working on a book on Ellen G. White and black people.

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  • @lolojun123lqpena8
    @lolojun123lqpena8 6 місяців тому +16

    I havent met Ellen White I bought Healing Ministry book I read it with fervent prayer to guide me with Holy Spirit to enligthen me counsls on Diet i focus my attention being sickly always I obeyd n follow the diet n laws of health to my surprise my health improve n became more more vigourous up to the present what a wonderful book this book i know this book is inspird by God

    • @lolojun123lqpena8
      @lolojun123lqpena8 5 місяців тому +2

      Gd morning Brod n sis I'm a Christian I what to buy more books from ellen white I'm a Filipino I know it will help me lot in my health n salvation God Bless Us

  • @Jake-nk4wg
    @Jake-nk4wg 8 місяців тому +4

    A job well done Dr. Baker; I was at Oakwood with your parents. God bless each of you. :)

  • @cricketmeans3067
    @cricketmeans3067 4 місяці тому +3

    What is the title of the book Baker says he is writing and when will it come out? Also when will this article be published and in which periodical?

  • @marlenebright7401
    @marlenebright7401 2 місяці тому +3

    They change up her writing.

  • @nxarnold
    @nxarnold 9 місяців тому +3

    I would greatly appreciate the transcript of this. Is it available?

    • @adventist_history
      @adventist_history  8 місяців тому +1

      The author's article will be published in a printed journal, which you will be able to purchase next year at the Center for Adventist Research.

    • @cricketmeans3067
      @cricketmeans3067 4 місяці тому

      @@adventist_history when will this article be published and how do i get a copy?

    • @rutebighaus8972
      @rutebighaus8972 Місяць тому

      This author didn't mention a thing about E.G.White's belief that black people originated from the amalgamation of men and beasts.

  • @kingc.o.d3491
    @kingc.o.d3491 4 місяці тому +8

    crucifying a person, a century after her death is so catholic.

  • @macksonmukonde4924
    @macksonmukonde4924 Рік тому +4

    LORD HAVE MERCY

  • @MelvaJoseph-gh1lz
    @MelvaJoseph-gh1lz 19 днів тому +3

    Be careful what is said about the servant of the Most High, the world wants to discard her writings so they would have changed and manipulated her writings just to discredit it. This is a direct attack on the seventh day Adventist church directly from the pit of hell and from the kingdom of darkness. God is not sleeping He is wide awake! Be warn!

  • @fredsimmons2793
    @fredsimmons2793 Місяць тому +3

    Whats intriquing is when Ellen was writing in the Testimonies about the civil war,she writes that the death angel was being held back and she uses the word ,"she" to describe this death angel.If Ellen said that Satan killed Christ she was wrong.Jesus said no one can take my life,I give it up freely.Also Desmond Ford did not believe in the investigative judgement,but regardless of the way he was treated by the SDA church afterward,till his dying breath he honored EGWhite.ELLEN was not faultless,she made mistakes and outright made false statements such as saying in her first vision God to her the day and hour of His return.Scripture says no man,not even Jesus know this time only God.Jesus further said the time and seasons are given to no man,they are God's only.One can still take counsel from EG White and not believe everything she said or wrote.

    • @TheFaithofJesus-bk4wl
      @TheFaithofJesus-bk4wl 21 день тому +1

      Incorrect, what Christ meant by this statement is that he knew his purpose for coming as a human, he knew he came to die for our sins. When he makes this statement he is talking about the pacificism with which he met the mob that came to take him away to be tried and crucified. Clearly, men under the influence of Satan were responsible for his physical death, the Bible tells us so. Jesus's statement was to let people know that as the willing sacrificial lamb he would not resist in any manner but love and forgiveness, in turn, his statement rings true, and at the same time, E.G.W.'s statement about Satan taking Jesus's life is also true because it was men under the influence of Satan who beat, whipped, spat on, and nailed him to the cross. Had Christ called upon the angels of heaven to rescue him 10,000x10,000 angels would have heralded to his rescue, the fact that faith and love kept him on the cross completed his statement of how he gave up his life freely without any type of resistance.
      When people read what E.G.W. writes they never stop and think about the context in which she writes in contrast to the Bible, this is why so many people see error instead of truth. To know, and to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ is to have discernment and understanding of what we read, whether it is in the Bible or even someone else's writings.
      The Catholic Church called Luther a heretic, and a liar, and yet everything he wrote helped us define our concept of Justification by faith. Just because some may call her false doesn't mean she is, it just means one of two things, 1.) Either they don't want to accept it because of pride and ignorance. or 2.) They have never read her work and only ever listened to others who have done nothing but take her out of context. The facts are this, In the last 1800 years no one embodied Isaiah 8:20 in the same way E.G.W. did, her ministry held firm " To the Law and to the Testimony, if they speak not according to this word it is because there is no light in them. " The Law in this verse is the Torah ( The Ten Commandments ) and not anyone else has held to the keeping of all 10 Commandments including the Sabbath command but E.G.W. in the last 1800 years, or preached the Bible as the standard of the Christian Faith in which all things should be measured and upheld. God Bless! Happy Sabbath!!

    • @fredsimmons2793
      @fredsimmons2793 21 день тому

      @@TheFaithofJesus-bk4wl Look,just your statement saying the when people talk about what EG White said and wrote,that they never consider the contxt,shows your arrogance,disdain,contempt,and frankly ignorance.You are judging,people may have taken years of studying her and the bible.Your cavalier attitude is a hallmark of your youth and also these attitudes are a hallmark of Adventism.The jews have kept the ten commandments and the Sabbth.So your statement is a lie.

    • @JanetNumdi
      @JanetNumdi 10 днів тому +2

      E G w's preaching and visons are not old as 1800 years, it's a false statement from a false teacher.or profit.

    • @fredsimmons2793
      @fredsimmons2793 10 днів тому

      @@TheFaithofJesus-bk4wl With your reasoning and there is truth there,you and I helped kill Jesus also,he hung on a cross for you and me.I know this is true ,my spirit bears witness with the holy ghost to support.Also since you drag the Torah around so cavilerly,the Torah explicitly states about abortion that if a woman is pregnant and has not formed a viable fetus(3 months) and this pregnancy is terminated,it is a moral failure and NOT a crime.If a woman's fetus is viable(after3 months and the fetus is killed by striking the woman or aborted,it becomes a crime,punishable by penaltys up to death for the offender.This ruling has held steady for thousands of years until recently.You see the beast power has to make moral infractions a criminal offense by the civil goverment in order to use the law of the land to enforce morality.This is part of the mark of the beast.

    • @TheFaithofJesus-bk4wl
      @TheFaithofJesus-bk4wl 10 днів тому

      @@JanetNumdi The point is, no one in the last 1800 years has even fulfilled Isaiah 8:20 except her. When it comes to the Law ( Ten Commandments ) and to the Testimony. So that went straight over your head. That was the point, and Myles can't answer it because he knows it's the truth. It's why he avoids the 2 questions I asked.

  • @judithirizarry9952
    @judithirizarry9952 Місяць тому

    Excellent expose on this controversial topic and its application to current end time events... Wonderful!!

  • @jeffreyoivo
    @jeffreyoivo Місяць тому +2

    My brother , one of the spiritual gifts is the gift of prophecy. Ellen white was given that. You have a spiritual gift too. Do you know yours? I know mine and mine is the gift of teaching and counseling.
    Well, it's sad to say that America is in prophecy and AMERICA is the second beast described in revelation 12.

    • @applerose5811
      @applerose5811 Місяць тому

      " I Now I beseech you brethren,Mark
      Them which cause Divisions and Offences contrary to the Doctorine
      which he have learned,and avoid them!
      For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Chris,but their own interests.By their good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple."!
      Rom.16:17-18

    • @jonsmith8116
      @jonsmith8116 Місяць тому

      Where do you get that America is the beast?

    • @jeffreyoivo
      @jeffreyoivo Місяць тому

      @@jonsmith8116 Revelation 13:11 and check out the history of the dark ages.

    • @TheFaithofJesus-bk4wl
      @TheFaithofJesus-bk4wl 21 день тому

      @@jonsmith8116 Revelation 13, the second beast is America. When you look at the symbolism it's quite easy to see. In prophecy, water always symbolizes nations, multitudes, kindreds, and tongues. This is found in Revelation 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. The Catholic Church is symbolized by the woman, her clothes are crimson and scarlet, which are the official colors of the Catholic Church, she is adorned with gold, silver, pearls, and all manner of precious gems, the Catholic Church is the richest organization on the planet and she received her wealth by her false teachings during the dark ages with the selling of indulgences to ignorant peasants that couldn't read. The cup of her abominations that she made the kings of the earth drunk with was done during the Dark and Middle Ages when she ruled over the Ten Kingdoms of Europe, hence the ten horns on the beast she is sitting on. Horns represent kings or kingdoms in prophecy.
      In Revelation 13 the first beast comes up out of the sea, it has body parts of different beasts, if you go to Daniel 7 and read about the 4 beasts there the first beast in Revelation 13 is an amalgamation of those 4. The Catholic Church reigned over Europe for exactly 1260 years in which time she persecuted and put to death those who refused to worship as she commanded. She then received a deadly wound, in 1798 Napoleon destroyed the Vatican and took the Pope prisoner ending the Catholic Church's tyranny over Europe and people were finally free of her persecution. The beast would heal itself from this wound, In 1933 the Axis powers were uniting behind Adolf Hitler, and Stalin needed the support of the people in Italy, he knew they would rally behind the church if the church would back him. He then offered the church back her sovereign reign over Italy once ww2 was over. When Stalin was killed the Church became the ruling power in Italy once again, now 80 years later when the Pope or Catholic Church does anything most of the world wonders after her by her divine authority that she claims to have. This completes the whole world wonders after the beast.
      The second beast of Revelation 13 comes up out of the land, if according to Revelation 17, water represents a highly populated area then land represents the opposite, a scarcely populated land. When the pilgrims landed in 1620 it is estimated by scholars there were only around 4 million Native Americans in all of the U.S. 2.) This second beast would make an image of the first beast. Here are some things to take into consideration that the U.S. and the Catholic Church has in common.
      1.) The national symbol for both is the eagle
      2.) Washington D.C.'s architecture is Greco-Roman, its monuments and historical buildings look Roman.
      3.) Rome was built on a Republic, and the U.S. was built on a republic.
      4.) Rome had a Senate that made its laws, and the U.S. has a Senate that makes our laws.
      5.) Look up a picture of the Vatican with the obelisk in front of it, and then look at our capital build with the Washington monument in front of it, see a resemblance?
      It's not coincidence bro, it's prophecy being fulfilled.

  • @mbrown6837
    @mbrown6837 6 місяців тому +3

    What did EGW say about the atrocities and inhumane treatment the black aboriginals in Australia recieved st the hands of white immigrants?

    • @amyreich2524
      @amyreich2524 6 місяців тому

      I’m sure that EGW condemned ALL slavery & the subjugation of anyone, regardless of race, ethnicity, etc. What so-called christians practiced against First Nations brothers/sisters was also horrendous. But I endorse what brother Baker repeatedly said. Ellen what against the “spirit” that motivate any of us to suppress,subjugate, or enslave any one. All other humans are our brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, etc.

    • @judithirizarry9952
      @judithirizarry9952 Місяць тому

      I believe that although she focused on the America of her time, when EGW denounced slavery, inhumane cruelty, etc , in it she was applying her sentiments at a global level or the world she was exposed to during her time. I'm sure she understood the cosmic controversy that was taking place between Satan and God's people/creation...

  • @barryford1482
    @barryford1482 5 місяців тому +3

    My understanding is that Puritians were not persecuted in England . but other religious groups in Europe were .
    Slavery had nothing to do with race and most slaves in the history of the world were enslaved by their own race.
    It is odd that Ellen thought Republicanism was superior because it was the British that had no slaves from 1086 and the British Empire was at the forefront of destroying the Atlantic slave trade long before America thought slavery may be a bad idea

    • @democratsrepublicansbothan7973
      @democratsrepublicansbothan7973 4 місяці тому

      What kind of bs are u pushing. Cacazoid racist anti God Europeans created and ran the trans Atlantic slave trade and it was a race based chattle slavery. The worst kind of slavery. They even used the bible to justify it.

    • @judithirizarry9952
      @judithirizarry9952 Місяць тому

      Slavery can be applied to race as well as to ideology. The Puritans and early Christians were persecuted for their religious beliefs and not race, but nonetheless suffered persecution and great atrocities.
      This is not much different to the inhumane atrocities suffered by blacks due to their race and debasement of their humanity.
      Both actions were evil and satanic, and the one no lesser than the other...

  • @KenAkimitsu
    @KenAkimitsu 22 дні тому

    😊5

  • @conniegaby6275
    @conniegaby6275 12 днів тому

    👀 Judgement day is coming. “ o be careful little 👅 what you say”.

  • @Tahquitz
    @Tahquitz 5 місяців тому +1

    Even a spiritist and heretic can have a right opinion about some things.

  • @MichaelSmith-qc7nk
    @MichaelSmith-qc7nk 4 місяці тому

    *(BLACK PEOPLE = ISRAELITES) 9T message to the Colored people.

  • @jamaicaskooltoysrus5658
    @jamaicaskooltoysrus5658 Місяць тому

    Who she was right those are actually happening now

  • @CarlosRodriguez-fr6ww
    @CarlosRodriguez-fr6ww 6 місяців тому +4

    She said all this after she wrotte other material saying blacks where lower than other humans

    • @bonganimungwa7573
      @bonganimungwa7573 6 місяців тому +4

      Did she say blacks were lower than any other humans? Where did she say that

    • @flittlefield
      @flittlefield 5 місяців тому +5

      I think not. Cite your quote. I have never seen it and I have read lots of books and articles about it.

    • @barryford1482
      @barryford1482 5 місяців тому

      Ellen White writes about Amalgamation meaning humans had been crossed with animals evident in some black races. Ellen also was against whites marrying blacks

    • @wilfredomedero6680
      @wilfredomedero6680 5 місяців тому +5

      I read that HGW said that both races are children of God. Also she very strongly requested that the church organization open a mission effort to the black communities in the south.

    • @vincentcherry5466
      @vincentcherry5466 4 місяці тому +5

      That is a LIE!! SHOW THE QUOTES.