I've read numerous articles and viewed many You Tube videos on how to set up a scraper, but I never could quite get that burr to perform like it should. Until today.... when I applied my new Arno burnisher to the scraper edge resulting from the wood block on the diamond stone strategy that you demonstrated so well. (I had always been taught before to use a file.) I am thrilled that I am now generating beautiful curly shavings on hickory rather than sawdust. Thank you.
Yeah, so the best advice for me is to get a burnisher. I have been trying screwdrivers, back of chisels, drill bits etc. I will surrender now and get one. Thanks for the vid
Like a few comments below.....finally, after a few failed years of many card scraping tutorials, I followed your process, bought the arno burnisher,,,and booooom, shavings..no dust!!! thanks Matt. i think that burnisher has made all the difference. you can really feel the process of turning the burr with it. before i was dragging my burnisher across and hoping for the best. i also like the short, firm and slow technique compared to the long, relatively fast swipe with the burnisher i had been trying before
I have watched many other card scraper sharpening videos, and tried each and every technique, and still got "dust" not "shavings." Very frustrating. Then I watched this video, and noticed how much downward pressure Matt applied to the burnisher as he was rolling over the burr on the card scraper. So I imitated his technique, and at last, I got the desired results! Shavings! Hooray! So grateful, Matt! Thank you! I might get one of those French burnishers one day, but I was able to make the burr happen with my regular old round burnisher.
The arno burnisher dit it for me too! I could'nt get shavings with my dictum triangular burnisher. The arno triangulair face is much more aggressive. Thank you for the video
Thanks Matt. I always learn something useful from your videos. Could you please put links in the description to the card scraper and burnisher you've used here. Thank you
I don't have any links thus far! Cabinet Scrapers are made by Lie-Nielsen, burnisher is made by Arno, available from workshop heaven. Hope that helps and cheers! :)
I've seen UA-cam videos using screwdrivers for burnishing. And files to square, providing that the hardness is greater than the scraper, is that ok. I'm afraid I have a limited budget 😕
Good vid, but a few suggestions: 1.) most of us are using the rod-style burnisher. I'd have loved to have seen your technique with that. 2.) I always wonder if, after putting the burr on one length of the scraper, if, when you turn it over and secure it in the vice, if you're not crushing the burr you just established. 3.) I believe the correct pronunciation is "Lee Nile-son...." Okay, I'm shitting you, or as you Brits would say, I'm pissing in your team, mate." You do say that, right?
Technique is exactly the same with a rod burnisher, I just get a better result using this ugly one! In terms of crushing the burr in the vice, providing you have wooden jaws it has the same blunting effect as actually using the cabinet scraper. Finally, yes I have sorted the pronunciation now. Lots of people have called me up on it!
Do you think one of those cheap aluminum oxide stones from the hardware store is good for card scrapers? I really dont want to take a card scraper to my shaptons !!!!
I just couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong with my scraper sharpening even after watching several videos on the procedure. Should've known to just go straight to an Estlea video in the first place.
Very difficult to say as it wears down gradually, depends what your definition of sharp is! At the speed I was going here, one edge can produce shavings like that for about 5 minutes. Hence why it's beneficial to sharpen all 4-8 sides!
Okay, serious question now. I'm using a Stanley #80 scraper on a walnut table top. Too much grain reversal for a hand plane and too big for a card scraper. I actually got a bit of chatter from the scraper plane that left some marks that wouldn't come out with sanding 100-320 grit. Any suggestions? Would the card scraper do a job on these small areas of chatter? Thanks Matt!
I would probably attack it with a card scraper, just make sure you don't put a massive dip in it by focusing in one area only. You'd be surprised how easy it is to dig deep with these things!
The Arno burnisher is twice the price of rod burnishers but those curls on the pink ivory are pretty convincing! I think I'll take the plunge. Since this is also Chris Schwarz's go-to burnisher you'd think they would be easier to find in the US. You can maybe get one on Amazon but it's uncertain whether you'll receive the sharpener or the burnisher. You can get either (or both in a set) at Garrett Wade, shipping is about the same as international shipping from Workshop Heaven in the UK.
I've had an Arno burnisher for a few years, and if a numpty like me can make a flat piece of steel work I'd work for anyone. Didn't think they were expensive though, I guess there's a pond in the way.
A lot of people distinguish between card scrapers as in the video and cabinet scrapers such as the No80, I must admit I find the terminology confusing.
Young man, you are one of the best teachers I have ever come across in any medium.
About 80% of the time… I love your sense Of humor!!
I've read numerous articles and viewed many You Tube videos on how to set up a scraper, but I never could quite get that burr to perform like it should. Until today.... when I applied my new Arno burnisher to the scraper edge resulting from the wood block on the diamond stone strategy that you demonstrated so well. (I had always been taught before to use a file.) I am thrilled that I am now generating beautiful curly shavings on hickory rather than sawdust. Thank you.
I know this video is 2 years old but thank you very much! Just got mine in today and wow. What a difference it makes!
Why didn't I think to use the sides of my water stones? Matt, you're a damn genius!
Yeah, so the best advice for me is to get a burnisher. I have been trying screwdrivers, back of chisels, drill bits etc. I will surrender now and get one. Thanks for the vid
I just got one of those Arno burnishers. I could never get a burr before, now with the burnisher it is super easy. Definitely worth the money.
Like a few comments below.....finally, after a few failed years of many card scraping tutorials, I followed your process, bought the arno burnisher,,,and booooom, shavings..no dust!!! thanks Matt. i think that burnisher has made all the difference. you can really feel the process of turning the burr with it. before i was dragging my burnisher across and hoping for the best. i also like the short, firm and slow technique compared to the long, relatively fast swipe with the burnisher i had been trying before
I have watched many other card scraper sharpening videos, and tried each and every technique, and still got "dust" not "shavings." Very frustrating. Then I watched this video, and noticed how much downward pressure Matt applied to the burnisher as he was rolling over the burr on the card scraper. So I imitated his technique, and at last, I got the desired results! Shavings! Hooray! So grateful, Matt! Thank you! I might get one of those French burnishers one day, but I was able to make the burr happen with my regular old round burnisher.
Ooooh YEAH! I love me a card scraper. Cheaper, faster and easier than bloody sandpaper!
Ooooohhhh yes!
The arno burnisher dit it for me too!
I could'nt get shavings with my dictum triangular burnisher. The arno triangulair face is much more aggressive.
Thank you for the video
Great info matt
Thanks, Matt.
Excellent. You've done it right. Good video.
Excellent Video, very interesting never hear of cabinet scarper.
Nice one Matt. Different - but better - technique that I know. Go and sharpen mine now :)
Good video Matt. And 1++ on the Arno burnisher - I thought I just flat-out sucked at burnishing scrapers until I tried that little thing.
Thanks Matt. I received an Arno burnisher for Christmas and I'm getting Whispy shavings now..
Thanks Matt. I always learn something useful from your videos.
Could you please put links in the description to the card scraper and burnisher you've used here. Thank you
I don't have any links thus far! Cabinet Scrapers are made by Lie-Nielsen, burnisher is made by Arno, available from workshop heaven. Hope that helps and cheers! :)
Thanks Matt - good info!
I'm going to definitely try this. I'm so bad at this I actually went and bought the veritas tool for turning a burr.
I was looking at that Veritas burnishing set. Does it work well or do you think the one Matt used here would be better?
Brock Kragenbrink for me the veritas one worked like a charm!! You can also set the angle of the burr.
Excellent.
Many thanks.
Thumbs up Matt.
Great instructional video. I have now learned something new! Avoid pink ivory. :O
You the best, good job as always young fella. 👍👍👍
Thank you cuttie~
Another great vid Matt. Good job on the pronunciation of Lie-Neilson :p
One of my work mates pronounced it wrong today. I will admit that I secretly felt a bit smug.
Good stuff, thanks. Instead of getting a new anti slip mat, why not try washing the existing one? Cheers, David
Thanks
I've seen UA-cam videos using screwdrivers for burnishing. And files to square, providing that the hardness is greater than the scraper, is that ok. I'm afraid I have a limited budget 😕
Like the workbench? Watch me make it here: ua-cam.com/video/FXKYwM0f5WU/v-deo.html&t
I wonder if this kid ever found a rubber shower mat yet? They make great non slip pads.
is that a whetstone that the scraper's being flattened on?
Good vid, but a few suggestions:
1.) most of us are using the rod-style burnisher. I'd have loved to have seen your technique with that.
2.) I always wonder if, after putting the burr on one length of the scraper, if, when you turn it over and secure it in the vice, if you're not crushing the burr you just established.
3.) I believe the correct pronunciation is "Lee Nile-son...." Okay, I'm shitting you, or as you Brits would say, I'm pissing in your team, mate." You do say that, right?
Technique is exactly the same with a rod burnisher, I just get a better result using this ugly one! In terms of crushing the burr in the vice, providing you have wooden jaws it has the same blunting effect as actually using the cabinet scraper. Finally, yes I have sorted the pronunciation now. Lots of people have called me up on it!
Do you think one of those cheap aluminum oxide stones from the hardware store is good for card scrapers? I really dont want to take a card scraper to my shaptons !!!!
I just couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong with my scraper sharpening even after watching several videos on the procedure. Should've known to just go straight to an Estlea video in the first place.
Haha, my good momma
How long does one edge last on, lets say, oak?
Very difficult to say as it wears down gradually, depends what your definition of sharp is! At the speed I was going here, one edge can produce shavings like that for about 5 minutes. Hence why it's beneficial to sharpen all 4-8 sides!
Thank you. This gives me something to aim for. My edges typically last about 30 seconds or so.
Some steel is crappier than others. I think the one I got is called Bahco (pretty sure its A2) and I did a 2ftx4ft table made of walnut. Love it.
Okay, serious question now. I'm using a Stanley #80 scraper on a walnut table top. Too much grain reversal for a hand plane and too big for a card scraper. I actually got a bit of chatter from the scraper plane that left some marks that wouldn't come out with sanding 100-320 grit. Any suggestions? Would the card scraper do a job on these small areas of chatter? Thanks Matt!
I would probably attack it with a card scraper, just make sure you don't put a massive dip in it by focusing in one area only. You'd be surprised how easy it is to dig deep with these things!
Ah, card scraper. I hear cabinet scraper and I think #80. :)
Meh, card, cabinet I dunno. It scrapes at the end of the day!
So, what grit is your stone, eh?
I never know what people are spraying on thier sharpening stones what is it?
Usually window cleaner/soapy water if it's a diamond stone, you add oil to an oilstone and people spray water onto a waterstone.
The Arno burnisher is twice the price of rod burnishers but those curls on the pink ivory are pretty convincing! I think I'll take the plunge. Since this is also Chris Schwarz's go-to burnisher you'd think they would be easier to find in the US. You can maybe get one on Amazon but it's uncertain whether you'll receive the sharpener or the burnisher. You can get either (or both in a set) at Garrett Wade, shipping is about the same as international shipping from Workshop Heaven in the UK.
Didn't realise he used it too. Like I say, it's a bit of an ugly duckling but the results speak for themselves!
Ugly duckling will be just fine if I can get my card scraper sharpening consistent. Thanks for the video.
I've had an Arno burnisher for a few years, and if a numpty like me can make a flat piece of steel work I'd work for anyone. Didn't think they were expensive though, I guess there's a pond in the way.
Am I going crazy - didn't you post this a couple of days ago?
You might be! This is the first time posting this video. Although I was working on the same bit of Pink Ivory in a previous video.
use an eraser to push down. save your fingers
The only problem is you may be laying your scraper a little too flat and that will result in the burr not lasting long.
If you dont like pink ivory, feel free to chuck it this way. Pink ivory ichi ban
A lot of people distinguish between card scrapers as in the video and cabinet scrapers such as the No80, I must admit I find the terminology confusing.
Sounds like you need some private time with that burnisher, joking. Great videos
What's your favourite thickness of cabinet scraper?
That scraping at the end... damn. Almost erotic!
42€ for a burnisher!?!?
Why you so smart and I'm not !