My first Zwift race (on a Peloton!?)
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- Опубліковано 29 лип 2024
- It felt like an FTP test! I finally tried out Zwift and joined the first race I could find. I used my Peloton bike for the race since I don't have a smart trainer ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Power Meter Pedals amzn.to/3xanCFA
00:00 Intro
00:29 How I connect my Peloton bike to Zwift
01:35 The race begins!
04:08 Peloton disadvantage
05:20 Getting dropped
06:02 The betrayal of Mr(s). Period
07:39 Race results
08:06 Is it okay to race Zwift on a Peloton bike?
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Zwift looks like so much more fun than Peloton. I wish I had known about Zwift before I bought the bike trainer.
I have a similar- but total budget … janky- setup for Zwift. Faveros on an old spinner bike that’s loud and leans slightly to the right. Great video.
“Do I have hair again!?” “There’s 17!” This is awesome btw. I learn so much from your videos!
Dude how high is your heart going! 202? Hectic. Good content - thanks!
Great video! just a quick question, I noticed you're using a seperate screen to track the race, are you able to cast the Zwift race to your peloton screen? Thanks
This looks so fun
How is the shift system testing going?
Podiumed on my first ever race today which was in the D category. Race leader had over two minutes on me averaging 3.8 w/KG lol. I came in second 25 seconds ahead of third at 2.8 w/KG. Insane I gave max effort D was tough. Now I’m rated at C pace but I know I’ll be back of the pack lol
Hi Mitch, thank you for your videos, i have many questions…..I’m looking to purchase a (peloton) and I’m more intrigued with using swift as it seems more motivating and fun. I come from a cycling background and would like to know , what are your thoughts on the best bang for my dollar to train for the winter? I have a road bike and iPad to use? It seems a bit expensive to use a Peloton and convert it with the power meter using very expensive pedals. Thank you for your time!
I'm kinda in the same dilemma right now :) Originally, I purchased the Peloton for both me and my fiancee, however, she's started training at Orange Theory and I'm the only one using the Peloton. I'm seriously considering selling it or trading it for a Wahoo Kickr or Tacx Neo.
There are only two programs Peloton provides for serious cycling training: Discover Your Power Zones and Build Your Power Zones. The courses were good and I was able to increase my FTP from 234 to 275 in less than 4 months. Unfortunately, they don't offer any other programs so I'm afraid I've out grown the primary usefulness.
I haven't used another trainer, so I cant 100% promote something else, but I would caution against the Peloton (unless you really like their spin classes) 😬
To Mitch and anyone else. My Boss/friend bought me a Peloton over a year ago. Loved it, but the training is just “ok” if you want the best training plans. With the peloton your going to have to develop your own training plan. If you were to use the 3 zone system (easy/kinda easy)---(upper medium/hard)----(hard/very hard) I would say that the Peloton rides you would “fall into” are upper medium/hard “Z2” most of the cycling coaches suggest staying away from that. They want a lot of upper Z1 and a little bit of Z3 (very hard)
Mitch, should I get pedals (I could obviously use on any bike) or a Wahoo kicker (no power meter when I’m riding on the road)?
Have any serious cyclists here tried the Peloton and Keiser M3i?
Do you think the Peloton has enough resistance to get even the fittest cyclist out of breath and above 170HR?
If you tried the M3i was it higher resistance than a Peloton?
It's been three months, so have you been able to test the Shift Smart Trainer yet? If so, what did you think? Does it compare to using a real smart trainer like the Wahoo Kickr? I just won a Peloton bike from a local contest but I also have a Wahoo Kickr that I've been riding almost every day for the last nine months and I love it! I'm curious though as to what it would be like to ride the Peloton on Zwift with that new Shift Smart Trainer that you're beta testing so please let me know what you think of it. Thanks
I got it in the mail about a month ago, but haven’t had to time to make a full test video (got married and went on my honeymoon 🎉). My initial impression is that the Shift Smart Trainer does provide a better Zwift experience compared to power meter pedals alone. However, it’s not as responsive as a direct drive trainer like the Kickr. I would keep riding the Kickr if I were you. I’m actually considering selling my Peloton 🤫
@@MitchBoyer Congratulations on your wedding!!! 🎊🎉. Thanks for the update. I’ll sell my peloton then. Anyone interested?
You mention speed / cadence sensor on the peloton bike for zwift on the cheap. Any more info on this? Cant find anyone who successfully zwifted using that method on a peloton bike.,
I was wrong :( there are only two ways to do it-power meter pedals or a third party attachment like the Shift Smart Trainer. Still need to make a video comparing the two. So far, the pedals seem to be the better option in my opinion.
I actually use wahoo speed and cadence sensors to ride Zwift using my Stryde bike. Cadence sensor on the crank arm and speed sensor on the wheel. Search UA-cam for Stryde Zwift setup. Eventually I hope yo get power pedals since I hear it’s more accurate but ~$80 for the two wahoo sensors was a perfect price point to just try it out .
Been looking into this exact setup. What pedals did you use previously? I have Nike Superrep shoes, so I can swap the Delta clips for the Look Keo (that Assioma uses), but I’m not able to see whether or not the Peloton cycling shoes would also be compatible with Keo clips. My wife has the Peloton shoes, so if I can easily swap the clips, I’m in for the pedals!
The Peloton Delta clips do not work with the Look Keo clips. I just bought my wife a pair of Keo clips and she was good to go :) 100% worth it!
Ah, but can I put Keo clips on the Peloton Cycle shoes? That’s the question. Like, yeah it’s 3 holes for screws, but is the sizing of that the same? New clips are totally fine if they specifically can be mounted onto the Peloton Cycle shoes (bought from Peloton)
@@MatheMattical yep! they both work on the peloton shoes
Thanks! Super helpful. Stumbled upon you thanks to the algorithm, probably Mark Lewis related. Love the story-telling. Subscribed!
Still enjoying PeloZwifting?
@@MatheMattical thanks for watching! I ended up splurging on a Wahoo Kickr for more intense training sessions, but I still use the Peloton for zone 2/base training rides occasionally.
Power meter is very accurate and it is not the trainer that makes you ride better it is your effort that moves you in Zwift I have a power metre on my peloton and have been riding it with Zwift since beginning of the year. Nothing motivates me more than Zwift with the training plans group workouts club rides social rides friend meet ups personal goals etc at 12.99 per month it beats peloton hands down
You need to pay for zwift?
@@punisher288 Yes. I believe they do a month free trail tho.
Do you think the Peloton has enough resistance to get even the fittest cyclist out of breath and above 170HR?
Have you tried a Keiser M3i? If so was it higher resistance than a Peloton?
@@bmp713 i have only used the peloton and the resistance was good enough- but zwift is even better on a smart bike or bike on off wheel trainer due to the fact that you adjust the resistance like you would on a bike [instinctive] unlike the peloton where you just turn a dial
Which power meter do you have?
Mitch consider dumping the Peleton and get a smart trainer like a Tacx. It's a world of difference riding out of the saddle on a trainer; you don't have the inertia of the flywheel to help carry your pedal stroke.
I 100% agree! Just gotta find a way to justify the purchase 😅 I'm super tempted to dump the Peloton.
Have you tried a Keiser M3i? How would you compare the intensity of workout with other quality spin bikes?
Did you ever do a review of using the Shift Smart Trainer on the Peloton?
No unfortunately I haven't yet. The device is still in beta and I'm waiting for a few more bugs to be ironed out before making the video. Might make another Zwift/Peloton video. For now, I'd recommend power meter pedals if you wanna Zwift on the Peloton.
@@MitchBoyer I'd be curious to hear about the bugs. I'm thinking about buying a beta unit from someone.
If you’re considering it, I’m sure they’d appreciate the help debugging. Automatic resistance is cool, but is a bit too laggy for my liking (currently). I find the power readings to be more accurate with my pedals. The accuracy issue is not the device’s fault, but rather, Peloton’s. It’s almost impossible to get good power readings with the regular Peloton Bike.
This video is two years old. Would you happen to have a final/updated opinion on how to use the Peleton for Zwift?
I ended up selling the Peloton and buying a wahoo kickr instead 😬
“How do I have hair again”😂😂😂😂 golden as always
lol thanks dude!
how do you know what to set the resistance to on the peloton when using zwift?
The power meter pedals operate independently, so the resistance works almost like a regular gear set-just with a single progressive dial instead of set gear combinations. I can adjust the resistance to whatever setting I like. It’s helpful for endurance rides because I can dial in the exact resistance I need to match any power/cadence combo. The only downside is that the resistance does not adjust based on the terrain. It’s purely dependent on the resistance setting I manually set with the knob.
@@MitchBoyer, great content! Are you still liking the Assioma power pedals for the Peloton?
@@jacquelynreneeschneider8121 Thanks for watching! I don't ride the Peloton munch anymore, but I still use the pedals on my road bike almost every single day.
@@MitchBoyer Thank you again for the recommendation!! I made the purchases and retrofitted the Peloton. Now also racing on Zwift and love it. 🙌
@@jacquelynreneeschneider8121 glad it was helpful, welcome to the world of Zwift!
Wait wait wait.. hold on. Wait.
How did you get results like that with keeps?!
I’m using the foam with the same classification as you were.
Did they send you the adapter to adjust the resistance yet?!
Yes, but it’s still in beta and has some bugs. I’m waiting for everything to be ironed out before I review it. For now, I would recommend getting power meter pedals if you want to Zwift on the Peloton.
@@MitchBoyer did they give you an ETA?
Nope, sorry
looks like your saddle is too low?
did the shift thingy ever come out? looks like the website is outdated and you cant buy, they also mention they'll be releasing in 2022 and its 2024 :(
I ended up selling the peloton and buying a direct drive trainer instead. Now I use the wahoo kickr
How do you do this ?
I have Favero Assioma power meter pedals and they transmit power data to Zwift. They are pretty expensive, though. Check out SHIFT-they’re making a device that you can use with the Peloton. It is much more affordable and has more functionality.
Hello! Great video and I enjoy the humor for sure 😂. I have a question for you, although I realize you’ve already moved on from this setup. I have the Assioma Duos on my Peloton Bike Plus, both brand new, and oddly enough, I am getting about 30-50 more watts from my pedals over the peloton estimated power. The watts I am getting actually seems more realistic than the Peloton. The Cadence matches up almost perfectly minus the lag from transmitting the info to Zwift. The experience is actually a lot of fun considering this was a move to consider my wife’s ability to ride too, as she isn’t a cyclist. I’d love your thoughts on the wattage difference. I found a chart online of cadence to power on Peloton and that seems to match up to the power I am getting on my Peloton so I dont want to be concerned 👍🏼. As previously stated, I love the humor in your videos 😎
Hi! I would trust the Assioma Duos over the Peloton any day of the week-even the Peloton Plus. I believe the Peloton uses an equation based on cadence and simulated speed to calculate an estimated power output, whereas the Assioma use an actual strain gauge and have a claimed accuracy of +/- 1%. Sounds like your Peloton is also inaccurate, underestimating your power instead of inflating it, so a very nice surprise! You’re even stronger than you might have originally thought!
@@MitchBoyer appreciate the reply! Happy cycling 🚴♂️😎
Hey Mitch,
Just wanted an update on this setup. Not sure if you answered this question already but if you turn the resistance up on the peloton bike do the pedals register that you are using more power to turn the crank and therefore helps you climb the gradients more easily in zwift or does it not work that way? Also I don't remember in the video but since you can't really coast when you stop pedaling does your character also effectively come to a stop? Could this be corrected by not clipping in and just taking your feet off of the pedal s and letting them spin themselves to a close to stop before continuing on pedaling?
Hi! Okay I’ll try my best to answer your questions. I’m working on another Peloton/Zwift video so keep an eye out for that.
1. Yes, if you turn up the resistance the pedals register the change. They operate on their own, so as long as you’re literally pushing harder on them (by spinning faster, standing up, or increasing the resistance) they will reflect the change in output power and that will be registered in Zwift.
2. You will not feel any difference in effort on the Peloton when you go up or down hills in Zwift. The power meter pedals cannot change the resistance on the Peloton or make it tilt up or down, so 200 watts going uphill feels exactly the same as 200 watts going downhill (this is a bummer)
3. If you use the brake on the Peloton and abruptly stop your character on Zwift will not stop immediately, they will coast to a stop. You could take your feet off the pedals and let them spin to a stop. The result would be the same as if you were to hit the brake on the Peloton.
I hope that helps! I think Zwift is a much better experience with a dedicated trainer compared to a Peloton and power meter pedals. There will be a lot more in the video. It will probably come out in December.
@@MitchBoyer thanks so much for a thorough answer! So basically if you turn up the resistance knob then your character will not drop as much as it did in this video? I'm trying to run zwift on a bike+ and just ant to make sure it will be worth it before tinkering with it.
I've had motivation issues with hopping on the peloton and am hoping that zwift will be better motivation to actually get on and pedal. I'll be looking forward to your next video, I've been checking in from time to time to see if there have been any updates so I will continue to do so
Thanks again!
Hi, I don't think the peloton bike is the best. You really need either a smart trainer to kick in the resistance or a turbo with a bike on it so you can change gears. My friend has an original wattt bike and is forever having to change the resistance by hand. He said its just so annoying having keep one hand on the dial to change it with the gradient of the course as you found going up the climb
Yeah, that's been my experience too. I really need to make a follow-up video! I ended up getting a Wahoo Kickr and rarely use the Peloton for Zwift anymore. My wife loves the Peloton, but she doesn't use Zwift.
@@MitchBoyer ahh the kickr is great, good choice. I bet u can really notice the difference between the 2!
yea, whos going to buy a peleton for 1500, then power pedals for another 1000. for 2500 you can buy a smart trainer for use on zwift.
Do more zwift videos 😉
Have you got the shift yet?
I did and I got rid of it :/ didn’t work out for me. Ended up buying a wahoo trainer for my bike and selling the peloton and the shift device
But since you are only using a power meter (btw, love those pedals) and don't have a smart trainer, you are not getting the resistance from the map on Zwift.
Yeah it’s not quite as fun w/o the dynamic resistance. Looking forward to trying it out on a proper direct drive trainer!
Peloton bikes do not have powermeter. They estimate watts based on resistance and cadence. I know, it sucks.. :(
Yeah it is a bummer. Apparently the Bike + is more accurate. I ended up getting a Wahoo Kickr and use that now. It’s a much better experience on Zwift.
Cool video .. but if you have a Peloton bike... Shouldn't you be asking Stages for a smart bike instead of Wahoo?.. lol.. hope you do get something tho.. You'll love the feel of the hills! Lol.
😂 thanks dude!
Is Shift dead?
I think so :/
Stuck in this endless loop of keeping my Peloton or buying a Smart bike. I trained on a Peloton all year but got tired of the classes and had to manually enter my data into Training Peaks. Love to train with Matt Wilpers, but the closed system is annoying. I have contacted Peloton to expand services or open the Ecosystem to others. Maybe everyone in this dilemma should give Peloton the same feedback!!
Totally agree and in the exact same position. I'm waiting on delivery of the Shift Smart Trainer--it allows you to broadcast power and cadence data form the Peloton. That will probably be the final determining factor for me.
Yeh come on Peloton I love Matt Wilpers classes too, I’ve done all of his 90 minute classes so many times I know the script!!
Do you think the Peloton has enough resistance to get even the fittest cyclist out of breath and above 170HR?
Have you tried a Keiser M3i? If so was it higher resistance than a Peloton?
@@bmp713 the Peloton definitely has enough resistance but everything is manual. Rider controls the credence and then the power generation.
@@alansunshinemd Thank you.
Are you able to get up to a 170HR?
Have you tried a Keiser M3i? If so how does the resistance compare?
you need a speed sensor for Zwift, not cadence.
ah, true--thanks for pointing that out ✌️