Yeah, it would really be something to have this all committed to memory as he does. I imagine he's probably spent decades working on it and refining it.
Rochester Swift: Thank you for the quote. Ives is unsung (at least for my ear) in American culture and history. Making music that replicates life with its strife rather than music that strives for the opposite effect doesn't win the popular marketplace. But I have bought his music. Thanks again.
@bill Bloggs Well, if you indeed had done this, then it would be actual art. It is like John Cage's 4:33. It is not art to think of it or just make fun of the idea of 4:33 of no "usual" music, but it becomes art once you present it in front of an audience, once you find the courage to actually compose 4:33.
To those who would press stop as soon as you hear the opening few minutes, please stick with it. Even those with no understanding of dissonant music find incredible beauty in this epic work. It is epic for a reason. Wow, Steve. Endless thanks for posting this!
I was practicing the Alcotts one day and my Grandmother (who played piano) yelled down from the 2nd floor "What is that horrible music?!" I told her I love this work and I want to learn it! She never saw the beauty in it :( I heard the beauty the first time I heard it.
A year ago I would've clicked off within the first 5 seconds. Thank god Sorabji changed that for me, and allowed me to learn a new way of listening to music. This is incredible.
Yes, please *DO* stick around and listen / watch Mr. Drury's great performance, if for no other reason than to see what that wooden plank sitting on top of the tuning nuts is used for. 🙂
he was a student of claudio arrau-- maybe that's why his hand positions and gestures are so lush and romantic -- if you didn't have the sound on, and were just watching, you'd think he was playing Chopin
Charles Ives never really wrote anything that you will hear on the radio that you can whistle a tune to, but he was remarkable in his own way. There is nothing easy about his music, even when he uses a familiar tune. Drury does an impressive job with his sonata.
Marisa Louisa Yes, your point is well worth bearing in mind by anyone first approaching this music. But Ives did love a good, familiar tune. Knowing how to hear them in the weird, holy messy sound world he builds might be an entry point for a neophyte.
@@ethanhill9331 Ives did write a lot of music to whistle to, particularly when he uses themes from older songs and hymns that have been whistled to for years if not centuries!
아이브스 피아노 소나타 2번 콩코드 00:02 1악장 Emerson - 베토벤 운명 교향곡 모티브 활용 16:26 2악장 Hawthorne - 17:55 인간 손가락으로 닿을수 없는 넓은 옥타브를 37cm짜리 나무막대기로 연주하라고 지시함. 28:45 3악장 The Alcotts - 작은 아씨들의 저자의 이름이 부제로 그대로 여성스럽고 부드러운 느낌을 냄 34:40 4악장 Thoreau - 작가 소로를 부제로 삼고 그가 생전 플룻연주를 한 것을 상기하며 악장 마지막에 플룻을 첨가하여 피아노와 복박자로 연주하게 함
OK, I've listened to it three times and it is the best performance of this piece I have heard. I would love to have a CD of it with CD quality. Or even more so another performance by Mr. Drury and Jessi Rosinski. This is great music making.
This performance is just exquisite. The emotional force is so powerful that I almost can't take a breath by the final measures. Thank you for this performance, Prof. Drury -- it's endlessly inspiring to me as I am working on this piece.
+Anthony McCarthy This performance is indeed brilliant, and a remarkable feat of memorization. But I have to say that I think the John Kirkpatrick performance issued on Columbia Masterworks is still my personal favorite. Kirkpatrick uses less pedal than Drury, and brings out the melodies in the inner voices better. But then maybe it's just that the Kirkpatrick performance is the first one I'd ever heard, and one tends to use the first performance one hears of any classical work as the yardstick by which later versions are measured.
What an awesome accomplishment. Truly a labor of love, and I understand how one comes to love this piece. I did, through the recordings of Aloys Kontarsky and Gilbert Kalish. This performance is as great as any I’ve heard.
There's Beethoven quotes all over this sonata, although the 4th Concerto isn't an acknowledged one (the two that are usually cited are the 5th Symphony and the Hammerklavier Sonata), but those same notes and rhythm are an old New England hymn, Martyn.
Interesting to see his relationship to the piano develop in real time. Around 17:28 he starts to get pretty board with it. By 24:55 he's just slapping that thing.
March section in 2nd movement Hawthorne sounds like the accompaniment for his song about the circus lady and the parade. "Hear the trombones". Blazing playing.
I've loved this piece for decades.. Can only play "The Alcotts" and "Thoreau", a little bit of "Emerson" and almost none of "Hawthorne" (except for interlude of "Columbia Star of the Ocean" or whatever that song is called).. Liked the performance too, but the standard by which I measure all others is still Gilbert Kalish's recording first issued on the Nonesuch label in the 1970s (vinyl, of course, then eventually made available on CD).
Incredible performance - One can really sense the passion with which Mr. Drury plays this piece. That Model D Concert grand is the biggest piano Steinway makes. Thanks for sharing!
Such interesting and unusual music indeed. It is genius and innovative. In some sections though, I was playfully thinking that if the pianist made any errors, that no one would ever know except the performer and those who are very familiar with the piece. No disrespect intended, it was just a passing humorous thought possible to those unfamiliar with this amazing style.
It's 'worse' than that! Ives played the piece differently each time, and he encouraged others to do so also. He never was willing to commit to a 'finished' version.
David Cavalari Thats right. Rightnow I am listening to the Chopin preludes Op.28 played by Blechacz (also on UA-cam). Anyway, thank you for your sympathetic reply.
What a masterful performance! Well done as this is not an easy piece to play and certainly this must be hard to commit to memory given its open free flowing unstructured nature. Impressive and beautiful.
For you ad for many others, probably because it's been transcribed so often. My first exposure to "The Alcotts" was a band transcription we played in high school. I had no idea at the time that it was originally a movement from a larger piano work.
This is one of the most musically rich piano pieces I have ever heard. It has everything..simple beauty to the most harmonically complex concepts and shifts in rhythm. Masterfully rendered. I can really live without the flute segment which sounds intrusive.
Probably he's using a Picea, or possibly a Pinus, perhaps handcrafted by Gus of HD Reading, late Holocene Period. Not too resinous, but with a subtle bouquet (pronounced "bucket".) :
I knew this would be great, and was not disappointed in the least. (Quite the contrary.) My god, what a piece... what a performance... Molti bravi! I remember hearing Mr. Drury play Zorn's _Carny_ (also from memory), Ives No. 1, Ligeti Etudes, Beethoven... Is there anything this man can't do at the keyboard?
It's one of the funniest things how people who make such asses of themselves hatin' on "modern music" which they hate believe they are being clever even as they prove they are too stupid to avoid something they hate.
@@desiderioelielton2051 So if you feel that way, what are you doing here? There are plenty of videos of Arvo Pärt's music on UA-cam and you can't have exhausted all of them. What is it with this missionary sensibility that causes people like you to come here and publicly disparage the music we enjoy? Personally, I don't care for Chopin. I find most of his piano music to consist of self-consciously brilliant effects with little to no substance behind them. But I don't say that on Chopin videos because I simply avoid the music I don't like.
@@desiderioelielton2051 It's not a matter of what you're free to do; it's a matter of why you're too stupid to avoid "ugly music" as you call it. Or, if it's not stupidity, what motivates you to seek out examples of "ugly music" so that you can flaunt your opinions of it.
@bill Bloggs "what a waste of spending years honing pianistic technique only to play something that a pissed cat could do" Spoken like a person who's never looked at the score for this piece. Even "The Alcotts" section, which is the simplest of the four movements, tests the pianism of the performer and the "Hawthorne" section is one of the most astonishingly complex works I've ever seen for piano. "And the composer ( loose term ) wasted his time as well ." Of course. He merely composed a work that is regarded over a century later as an American masterpiece and has been performed by dozens of pianists and appreciated by thousands. But it's all a waste of time because some self-important old windbag on UA-cam tells us so. "Nobody listens unless they're trying to be pretentious lol ." Well, you would know about being pretentious. There's nothing more pretentious than telling other people what music they're allowed to enjoy and playing the Trumpian "decider" by pronouncing on the worth of music not just for yourself but for everyone. Honestly, what is it with you people? Why are you so virulently, vituperatively opposed to the idea that people can genuinely like music you find "ugly"? Why are you so incapable of grokking the simple fact that tastes can differ? I got into Charles Ives' music at the age of 10, not because I was trying to be "pretentious" (after all, who was there to tell?), but merely because I happened upon a performance of his _Piano Sonata No. 1_ on the Columbia label and it genuinely bowled me over. Now I've been listening to his and other 20th and 21st century classical for over a quarter of a century _because I enjoy it_ , as shocking as that news may be to you. "Oh BTW I won't read your comment" Illiterate in addition to being philistine? Too bad. I honestly cannot fathom how you think this attitude makes you look good. You're essentially saying, "I know my comments are completely indefensible, but I'm going to make them anyway." But in fact, all you're doing is falling in with my wishes. As far as I'm concerned, you refusing to reply is good riddance to bad rubbish.
On a serious note (hah!) this is the same problem seen in, say, a DCI battery percussion line. The drumlines in those groups play some *insanely* complex parts and they have the same problem; how do you memorize something this complex? You have to identify and learn the phrases individually first. That doesn't necessarily mean "X number of measures" each time because a "phrase" is arbitrary. It's *hard* and requires a *lot* of effort with music this complex. I know it's "difficult but very possible" with something like a DCI drumline, where they don't "keep the beat" but are instead playing an entire support score of their own; it must be a quailing task for an individual pianist.
I'm glad you're willing to say so, and not launch into a hate-filled diatribe. Maybe if you put it aside and come back to it later. Or seek out another recording: I highly recommend that of Gilbert Kalish, here on UA-cam: ua-cam.com/play/OLAK5uy_nHDp2TzREQzs9ArF_Vg0pGdWZh0VhniW4.html
Weirdly, for this music if you *don't* understand it you're actually (a lot) closer to 'getting it' than those who claim they *do* understand it! In his "Essays before a Sonata" Ives wrote of this piece: "The whole is an attempt to present one person's impression of the spirit of transcendentalism that is associated in the minds of many with Concord, Mass., of over a half century ago." You *won't* understand it all. That's part of the entire point. You aren't *supposed* to. And you *can't* if you try; no matter how much you think you understand, you will never understand it all.
Omg! And he memorized this behemoth of a piece!? Bravo!
How incredible!!
My sentiments exactly, personally I've found this impossible to memorize
Yeah, it would really be something to have this all committed to memory as he does. I imagine he's probably spent decades working on it and refining it.
@@kevwang0712 Even the tonal and short 3rd movement is quite a challenge to memorize!
@@calebhu6383 and the fact that he plays it so flawlessly (better than 99.99%) than all the other recordings I've heard that it's astonishing
"Beauty in music is too often confused with something that lets the ears lie back in an easy chair." Charles Ives
"It will please them someday." -- L. van Beethoven
Rochester Swift: Thank you for the quote. Ives is unsung (at least for my ear) in American culture and history. Making music that replicates life with its strife rather than music that strives for the opposite effect doesn't win the popular marketplace. But I have bought his music. Thanks again.
"Little sugar plum faerie music"! Ives
@bill Bloggs Well, if you indeed had done this, then it would be actual art. It is like John Cage's 4:33. It is not art to think of it or just make fun of the idea of 4:33 of no "usual" music, but it becomes art once you present it in front of an audience, once you find the courage to actually compose 4:33.
@@lonely270 it's even deeper and more complex....
0:00 • Emerson
16:26 • Hawthorne
28:45 • The Alcotts
34:40 • Thoreau
Don't know what the 0:00 for "Emerson" means.
0:01
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Thanks!!!
Splendid, amazing performance and I have no sufficient words for how significant a work this is and how fortunate we are to have Ives music.
+David Bart Truly magnificent ... astounding achievement ... profound creation. What human beings are capable of! For me, Ive's greatest masterpiece.
@@Zeusmelikiosyou forgot chirpy chirpy cheep cheep
To those who would press stop as soon as you hear the opening few minutes, please stick with it. Even those with no understanding of dissonant music find incredible beauty in this epic work. It is epic for a reason.
Wow, Steve. Endless thanks for posting this!
I was practicing the Alcotts one day and my Grandmother (who played piano) yelled down from the 2nd floor "What is that horrible music?!"
I told her I love this work and I want to learn it! She never saw the beauty in it :( I heard the beauty the first time I heard it.
A year ago I would've clicked off within the first 5 seconds. Thank god Sorabji changed that for me, and allowed me to learn a new way of listening to music. This is incredible.
This is "old fashioned" new music. Has a 19th century sensibility, to me. My favorite piano concerto.
I’m about to close this 5mins in, guess I’ll continue listen to this piece
Yes, please *DO* stick around and listen / watch Mr. Drury's great performance, if for no other reason than to see what that wooden plank sitting on top of the tuning nuts is used for. 🙂
he was a student of claudio arrau-- maybe that's why his hand positions and gestures are so lush and romantic -- if you didn't have the sound on, and were just watching, you'd think he was playing Chopin
you must be crazy.
Yes, until you get to the part with the wooden plank
@@calebhu6383 If Chopin had written a part with a wooden plank, no one would play it more elegantly than Stephen Drury.
Charles Ives never really wrote anything that you will hear on the radio that you can whistle a tune to, but he was remarkable in his own way. There is nothing easy about his music, even when he uses a familiar tune. Drury does an impressive job with his sonata.
You put it perfectly. Ives never wrote music to whistle while you work or play.
Unless, of course, you have two mouths.
Marisa Louisa
Yes, your point is well worth bearing in mind by anyone first approaching this music.
But Ives did love a good, familiar tune. Knowing how to hear them in the weird, holy messy sound world he builds might be an entry point for a neophyte.
@@ethanhill9331 You can't whistle any of the 1st or second symphony? Or is the ability to whistle something your gauge for great music?
@@ethanhill9331 Ives did write a lot of music to whistle to, particularly when he uses themes from older songs and hymns that have been whistled to for years if not centuries!
A brilliant performance! Masterful playing.
such fun and memorable melodies to whistle all day long!
You were expecting Gershwin?
What, you didn't bring your flute?
아이브스 피아노 소나타 2번 콩코드
00:02 1악장 Emerson - 베토벤 운명 교향곡 모티브 활용
16:26 2악장 Hawthorne - 17:55 인간 손가락으로 닿을수 없는 넓은 옥타브를 37cm짜리 나무막대기로 연주하라고 지시함.
28:45 3악장 The Alcotts - 작은 아씨들의 저자의 이름이 부제로 그대로 여성스럽고 부드러운 느낌을 냄
34:40 4악장 Thoreau - 작가 소로를 부제로 삼고 그가 생전 플룻연주를 한 것을 상기하며 악장 마지막에 플룻을 첨가하여 피아노와 복박자로 연주하게 함
Thank you
An Absolutely beautiful and emotional performance.
This can only be listened to late at night.
22:49 is a quote from "He is there" also by Ives.
Moments of beautiful quiet, interrupted by chaos. Quite a tour de force.
I don't know how one plays that without a score. Great performance and lots of thanks for posting.
I don't know how one plays it WITH as score!
@@theodoremann1461 Me too, brother, me too
Wonderful performance - Ives as he should be played!
How can you understand music. It's not a book, you just have listen and experience it.
@@agentgalaxy6677 Eh? Many years ago, I played this in public a few times - I had to 'understand' it to learn it.What on earth are you talking about?
This is a great performance of this great music. Mr. Drury goes on my list of most respected musicans.
OK, I've listened to it three times and it is the best performance of this piece I have heard. I would love to have a CD of it with CD quality. Or even more so another performance by Mr. Drury and Jessi Rosinski. This is great music making.
Absolutely stunning! Bravo!! And to think Charles Ives wrote that. Great job. Keep them coming
A singularly astounding achievement in the performance art.
This performance is just exquisite. The emotional force is so powerful that I almost can't take a breath by the final measures. Thank you for this performance, Prof. Drury -- it's endlessly inspiring to me as I am working on this piece.
thank you so much for your very kid comment! good luck with it -
@@SteveDrury88 Thanks!!
"There is still a lot of good music to be written in C" - Arnold Schoenberg
Unfortunately, some few people think that there are still a lot of comments to be written in the key of F.
Numi Who Why drink water for centuries when you can eat a good chicken ?
@@aleksander7545 This is the most underrated comment of all time. I salute you, Sir!
See Schoenburg was a visionary. There is probably more music to be written in Python with machine learning libraries, but C wasn't far off.
@@malcolmexton4299 ahahahahahhaa i did not see that coming... but when I caught on to the joke I couldn't stop laughing
This remains the greatest performance of this work I've ever heard, live or in recording.
+Anthony McCarthy This performance is indeed brilliant, and a remarkable feat of memorization. But I have to say that I think the John Kirkpatrick performance issued on Columbia Masterworks is still my personal favorite. Kirkpatrick uses less pedal than Drury, and brings out the melodies in the inner voices better. But then maybe it's just that the Kirkpatrick performance is the first one I'd ever heard, and one tends to use the first performance one hears of any classical work as the yardstick by which later versions are measured.
I think this composition is very ahead of time. Very jazz and harmonies are really complex.
Theo Martin I assume Monk and Taylor listened to Ives.
I've always linked Monk and Ives.
Marc Allen Your ear is good.
What an awesome accomplishment. Truly a labor of love, and I understand how one comes to love this piece. I did, through the recordings of Aloys Kontarsky and Gilbert Kalish. This performance is as great as any I’ve heard.
Nicht zu glauben! Fantastico! In any language, an amazing accomplishment!
Belleza ininteligible. Muchas gracias por compartir. Saludos desde Buenos Aires, Argentina.
This is a truly wonderful interpretation. Thanks for posting it.
Amazing job Stephen! Bravo!!
8:35 my soul left my body 😮
Madness. The best possible kind.
Edit: I'm back two months later to watch this again and I can't even. Astounding.
Bravo Maestro Drury. Channeling Charlie. I watched them all sipping port in Thoreau's cabin. All smiling. All toasting you.
00:00 - Emerson
16:26 - Hawthorne
28:45 - The Alcotts
34:40 - Thoreau
Am I crazy, or does anyone else hear the beginning of Beethoven's 4th Piano Concerto at 21:15?
not crazy at all- this is a known quotation by Ives in that movement.
that beginning i think is just G to D to C or something similarly simple. but yeah B's 4th is my favorite.
There's Beethoven quotes all over this sonata, although the 4th Concerto isn't an acknowledged one (the two that are usually cited are the 5th Symphony and the Hammerklavier Sonata), but those same notes and rhythm are an old New England hymn, Martyn.
Great performance of one of Ives’ greatest works. Thanks for the upload!
Interesting to see his relationship to the piano develop in real time. Around 17:28 he starts to get pretty board with it. By 24:55 he's just slapping that thing.
March section in 2nd movement Hawthorne sounds like the accompaniment for his song about the circus lady and the parade. "Hear the trombones". Blazing playing.
Thank you Stephen, for allowing my mind to leave my body!
brilliant composition, brilliant performance
Most of life as Ives knew it is in there. There doesn't seem to have been as much life since. Love this performance too.
"🎹❤Fantastic!! Bravo Loved Your Performance" Kevin Quinn
Wonderful. Thank you.
I've loved this piece for decades.. Can only play "The Alcotts" and "Thoreau", a little bit of "Emerson" and almost none of "Hawthorne" (except for interlude of "Columbia Star of the Ocean" or whatever that song is called).. Liked the performance too, but the standard by which I measure all others is still Gilbert Kalish's recording first issued on the Nonesuch label in the 1970s (vinyl, of course, then eventually made available on CD).
Absolutely! I'm totally with you where Kalish's recording is concerned.
Incredible performance - One can really sense the passion with which Mr. Drury plays this piece. That Model D Concert grand is the biggest piano Steinway makes. Thanks for sharing!
Отличная соната. С интересом изучаю музыку Айвза
Splendid!
Wow! I'm so hyped by this.
Such interesting and unusual music indeed. It is genius and innovative. In some sections though, I was playfully thinking that if the pianist made any errors, that no one would ever know except the performer and those who are very familiar with the piece. No disrespect intended, it was just a passing humorous thought possible to those unfamiliar with this amazing style.
It's 'worse' than that! Ives played the piece differently each time, and he encouraged others to do so also. He never was willing to commit to a 'finished' version.
@@commontater8630 That makes insane sense!
A great, lyrical performance.
The composition itself is far from lyrical thats for shure. I don't understand why this is interesting let alone beautifull.
That's okay. It's not for everybody.
David Cavalari Thats right. Rightnow I am listening to the Chopin preludes Op.28 played by Blechacz (also on UA-cam). Anyway, thank you for your sympathetic reply.
Thank
What a masterful performance! Well done as this is not an easy piece to play and certainly this must be hard to commit to memory given its open free flowing unstructured nature. Impressive and beautiful.
This is sooooooooooo beautiful!
Holy f--- he's playing it from MEMORY? Even Kirkpatrick couldn't do that.
Wow. This is crazy good... wow.
17:52 here's the wooden block lmao wtf
He could have used his arm but he just wanted to show off
@@AsrielKujo i think the composer specifically wanted people to use a 37cm-piece of wood
@@ulysse__ i mean, its ives what can u expect, well at the end he always gives a good laugh
my favorite is definitely "The Alcotts"
For you ad for many others, probably because it's been transcribed so often. My first exposure to "The Alcotts" was a band transcription we played in high school. I had no idea at the time that it was originally a movement from a larger piano work.
Beautiful
Thank you, sir.
Imagine Glenn Gould whistling this piece in train.
Aleksander, I wish he would have played it for us once or twice.
@@walexwetchina487 same. He did play the 1st movement in his teens, iirc from one of his biography books.
He probably would have. Gould was a big fan of Schoenberg
The pianist isn't even reading it of sheet music... wow. RIP Ives
Imagine being able to memorize Charles Ives lmao. Crazy
incredible performance. Unreal
Really fascinating!!!
Bravo!!
Here's music with a performance that benefits brain mind soul.
This is one of the most musically rich piano pieces I have ever heard. It has everything..simple beauty to the most harmonically complex concepts and shifts in rhythm. Masterfully rendered. I can really live without the flute segment which sounds intrusive.
Not to mention the viola part that was dropped 🙂
and i suppose i should note the live performance coming up Jan 24 (2024, the Ives Sesquicentennial) at Jordan Hall
Fantastic performance, technically and musically, without any of the studio recording cutting and pasting.
supernatural work and titanic performance. i wonder which brand of wooden strip he is using here ;)
Probably he's using a Picea, or possibly a Pinus, perhaps handcrafted by Gus of HD Reading, late Holocene Period. Not too resinous, but with a subtle bouquet (pronounced "bucket".) :
make sense, those note clusters had something distinctively pineish and holoceneic :)
9.艾夫士奏鳴曲,同學請聆聽16:26-28:45
Hawthorne movement! hope your students listened!
I knew this would be great, and was not disappointed in the least. (Quite the contrary.)
My god, what a piece... what a performance... Molti bravi!
I remember hearing Mr. Drury play Zorn's _Carny_ (also from memory), Ives No. 1, Ligeti Etudes, Beethoven... Is there anything this man can't do at the keyboard?
Can I buy this recording somewhere? Or at least another one of Stephen Drury performing it? Does anybody know?
best regards
Frederic Rzewski's "The People United ..."
0:00 - 16:25 에머슨 1악장
16:26 - 28:44 호손 2악장
This man has 666 subs, no one ruin it
It's one of the funniest things how people who make such asses of themselves hatin' on "modern music" which they hate believe they are being clever even as they prove they are too stupid to avoid something they hate.
Because modern music is ugly. Exceptions exist: Arvo Pärt is one of them.
@@desiderioelielton2051 So if you feel that way, what are you doing here? There are plenty of videos of Arvo Pärt's music on UA-cam and you can't have exhausted all of them. What is it with this missionary sensibility that causes people like you to come here and publicly disparage the music we enjoy?
Personally, I don't care for Chopin. I find most of his piano music to consist of self-consciously brilliant effects with little to no substance behind them. But I don't say that on Chopin videos because I simply avoid the music I don't like.
You are free to like ugly music, but I am also free to say that music is ugly.
@@desiderioelielton2051 It's not a matter of what you're free to do; it's a matter of why you're too stupid to avoid "ugly music" as you call it. Or, if it's not stupidity, what motivates you to seek out examples of "ugly music" so that you can flaunt your opinions of it.
@bill Bloggs "what a waste of spending years honing pianistic technique only to play something that a pissed cat could do"
Spoken like a person who's never looked at the score for this piece. Even "The Alcotts" section, which is the simplest of the four movements, tests the pianism of the performer and the "Hawthorne" section is one of the most astonishingly complex works I've ever seen for piano.
"And the composer ( loose term ) wasted his time as well ."
Of course. He merely composed a work that is regarded over a century later as an American masterpiece and has been performed by dozens of pianists and appreciated by thousands. But it's all a waste of time because some self-important old windbag on UA-cam tells us so.
"Nobody listens unless they're trying to be pretentious lol ."
Well, you would know about being pretentious. There's nothing more pretentious than telling other people what music they're allowed to enjoy and playing the Trumpian "decider" by pronouncing on the worth of music not just for yourself but for everyone. Honestly, what is it with you people? Why are you so virulently, vituperatively opposed to the idea that people can genuinely like music you find "ugly"? Why are you so incapable of grokking the simple fact that tastes can differ? I got into Charles Ives' music at the age of 10, not because I was trying to be "pretentious" (after all, who was there to tell?), but merely because I happened upon a performance of his _Piano Sonata No. 1_ on the Columbia label and it genuinely bowled me over. Now I've been listening to his and other 20th and 21st century classical for over a quarter of a century _because I enjoy it_ , as shocking as that news may be to you.
"Oh BTW I won't read your comment"
Illiterate in addition to being philistine? Too bad. I honestly cannot fathom how you think this attitude makes you look good. You're essentially saying, "I know my comments are completely indefensible, but I'm going to make them anyway." But in fact, all you're doing is falling in with my wishes. As far as I'm concerned, you refusing to reply is good riddance to bad rubbish.
Between this and Three Places in New England, see why I like living in New England!
6:36 very beautiful melodic liness and highly romantic atmosphere
Madness! Genius!
Magnificent!
Ves la partitura y tira para atrás.Esfuerzo titánico de este pianista para memorizarla.
Incredible celebration of American Transcentalism of mid 19th century
20세 미국음악의 선구적 역할을 한 찰스 아이브스(1874-1954)의 대표작
1. 콩코드 소나타(1911-15, 수정 1940-47)
2. 114 노래집
3. 대답 없는 질문
21:47 es genial esa parte hasta que llega a 22:45 jaja despues de tanta locura, escuchar eso es raro :P
Yes!
I have always liked Ives, but how can anyone memorize this?
one note at a time! (well, 2 at a time, actually, works better)
@@CallithumpianConsort LOL
On a serious note (hah!) this is the same problem seen in, say, a DCI battery percussion line. The drumlines in those groups play some *insanely* complex parts and they have the same problem; how do you memorize something this complex?
You have to identify and learn the phrases individually first. That doesn't necessarily mean "X number of measures" each time because a "phrase" is arbitrary.
It's *hard* and requires a *lot* of effort with music this complex. I know it's "difficult but very possible" with something like a DCI drumline, where they don't "keep the beat" but are instead playing an entire support score of their own; it must be a quailing task for an individual pianist.
哇哇哇！！！！超级超级厉害！！！！
Friendly suggestion - create official blocks of wood with Mr. Ives' beloved "B A L L F I E L D->" printed on it for use in this piece.
dig: instagram.com/p/CWmNE56gXut/
Come si fa a imparare a memoria la Concord?? Tantissimi complimenti!
I truly don't understand this
me neither
Yankee Independence, Puritanism, Transcendentalism, Hail & Brimstone, Holy Spirit
I'm glad you're willing to say so, and not launch into a hate-filled diatribe.
Maybe if you put it aside and come back to it later. Or seek out another recording: I highly recommend that of Gilbert Kalish, here on UA-cam:
ua-cam.com/play/OLAK5uy_nHDp2TzREQzs9ArF_Vg0pGdWZh0VhniW4.html
Weirdly, for this music if you *don't* understand it you're actually (a lot) closer to 'getting it' than those who claim they *do* understand it! In his "Essays before a Sonata" Ives wrote of this piece:
"The whole is an attempt to present one person's impression of the spirit of transcendentalism that is associated in the minds of many with Concord, Mass., of over a half century ago."
You *won't* understand it all. That's part of the entire point. You aren't *supposed* to. And you *can't* if you try; no matter how much you think you understand, you will never understand it all.
It has in a way striking similarities to Max Reger. If Reger lived longer, his music would sound approximately like M. Reger...well...approximately...
That plank has two uses, one to play this sonata the other to hit new beginners on the fingers when they play wrong notes
sheeeesh what a big flex 🌋🌋
Wow!!!!!!!!!
Well, people have their likes and dislikes. I would take this one sonata over every note of Copland, Bernstsein, Barber, Rorem, Glass, Reich combined.
So who's the flute player at the end?
Jessi Rosinski, as noted in the credits
hahahahahah I never knew piano could be played this way
Yeah. I can get jiggy with this.
I like that the performer is dressed like an IT guy. Seriously.
🙏💖😻💕
Теперь ясно что есть Софочка Губайлуллина и простая мызыка из простых непредсказуемых чисел.
Ну Айз один из ключей к этой мюзе
Что?
For Jenifer : you know nothing ! But best widgets !
Learn to spell, dude!
28:47 third mvt
Charles ives transcendentalist themes
Help me understand. Is he using some formal approach like Schoenberg, or did Ives just wing this?
Ives was a cantankerous winger.😊 He had a very intense and nostalgic imagination.
If he were alive, I'd love to hear Paul Jacobs play this....right in his wheelhouse...