I love how you didn't even mention that SEPTA has said that they won't be able to handle the influx of people they are predicting. Not to mention the 3 hospitals that it'll be walking distance from.. so when there is stand still because of, 1 construction, 2 people going to a game, it's going to really suck for somebody who really has to get to one of those three hospitals. Not to mention the fact that this location is five blocks away from Independence Hall...
People need to realize Philly is one of the counties oldest cities and the very narrow streets aren't made for heavy traffic. This is the main reason our downtown has never been a shopping hub. Every attempt the city has made to develop the area fails. No one is going to leave their car to take septa into town. That's also a falling dream. They are online pushing it because builders say it will bring jobs, but that's only for a few people for a few years and simply isn't worth it. The majority of the preprinted don't want it and have even said they would be fine with them going to Camden across the river in New Jersey but our major sold us out for the money. She will not be reelected for it.
Stupid greedy Democrats. It will fail. Nobody likes the NBA here. The sixers stink and have no future. Hope the arena is empty and fails because nobody wants to go down there. I know I never will
@@jonjon3443I live in Center City and commute out of Jefferson Station daily. I absolutely want this. Market Street deserves better than the status quo. This is the most transit accessible location in the region.
This project is just a current redevelopment of a poorly executed 2019 redevelopment of a 1980's redevelopment. Arenas are dead zones all day long. I worked in Manhattan and used Penn Station on a regular basis. Madison Square Garden is just a big dead zone all day long. Once its there it will be impossible to get rid of as Manhattan city council has found out the hard way. My vote would be to include it in the 30th Street Station District Plan that has been languishing over the Amtrak rail yards. Imagine Septa, Amtrak and subway lines all coming together adjacent to the arena. Fans from Boston, NYC, Baltimore and DC could hop on a train and arrive right at the arena. That IMO would be a gamechanger for the city.
Best part about MSG is that it sits on top of Penn Station. I had head every NYE to see Phish play there. Being able to drive to Newark Penn Station from south jersey and hop on a 15-20 min train and walk right upstairs to MSG is amazing. Sixers really should consider doing the same. Putting it in center city will make it a nightmare to get too for many.
The chase center was built on empty land on a former rail yard. It didn’t disturb local businesses because there were none. The whole area was built up around it
It will have a corporate sponsor name by the time it’s built. It’s not just a stone’s throw from septa, it’s going to be built right over top of septa which will include regional rail, El train, broad street subway spur connecting to the main service, PATCO HIGH SPEED LINE to New Jersey, Septa light rail trolley service via the same underground a few blocks away and possibly Amtrak and New Jersey Transit trains as well.
Why is it so controversial because they don’t need to move? I’m missing 76ers fan and I am against it. They have a perfect arena where they are at right now.
The sixers do not own the arena they play at...the owner wants his own arena that he can choose his schedule and also make concessions from concerts and games...the sixers don't own Wells Fargo center they rent...this owner is bringing a lot of money into Philly just to build the arena
I wonder why they just don’t build 76Place in south Philly like the other sports arenas. We have hockey, baseball and football in the area, why not basketball? It’s not congested, there’s space for parking, it’s the last stop for SEPTA and it doesn’t interfere with the residents who live in the area.
The owner of the fashion District will still own the property so they will still be renting the property out from him and he will be making a lot of money in it. That’s the only reason he is letting them build on half of his property. He’s getting a very substantial deal
This development that few want will negatively impact the train station. It will end up being like NY Penn Station after Madison Square Garden was built.
This is cool if you are a local but the Sixers are supported by NJ, Delaware & PA patrons for tickets sales & revenue. Moving away from i95 might not be as lucrative as you think
@DeRussellMasina this will not be cool to be honest. A majority of the residents who live in Philadelphia do not want this dumpster fire. The mayor and city council were paid off by the Sixers ownership and voted against the wishes of the residents.
The Sixers do not need a new facility. Wells Fargo is plenty adequate. Its set in the right location on the sports complex. This new arena is only a cash grab for the principal investors and contractors. Its clear as day.
Their current arena is perfectly fine! The only thing that could make it better is if they finally get a train line that connects to the existing stadium district, as currently they only have one subway line that runs to the stadium area
Golden 1 Center in Sacramento should be modeled. It’s the best NBA area I’ve ever been to and it’s centered in downtown Sacramento. The locals absolutely love the arena and it’s a gorgeous one at that. I can’t believe it’s always left out and never mentioned. It’s the perfect example of sports leading an urban renewal initiative in a successful way.
The city got the okay to build a stadium Parking should be no problem because right across the street from the Fashion district the site where they want to build the stadium, there is a block-long of boarded up empty stores and shops that look like they were brought out or kicked out their stores
"Fashion District Mall" my backside... I'm old enough to remember when that mall was called The Gallery at Market East. The Sixers are better off building their new arena in Camden, New Jersey rather than contributing to the destruction of Center City and Chinatown.
This comment is so laughable. Destruction of any sorts was the pandemic, crime and political stupidity that helped shut down lots of businesses dating back to 2020. Not for the building of an arena in that area of the city. Chinatown will complain about any large project in an adjacent neighborhood next to theirs.
This is cool if you are a local but the Sixers are supported by NJ, Delaware & PA patrons for tickets sales & revenue. Moving away from i95 might not be as lucrative as you think
Can't we build a banger of a parking garage at the stadium complex and upgrades for public transportation for the stadium complex. Then use a handful of empty lots as space for a sixers stadium?
This will be a disaster for the city. Build it at Broad & Lehigh, the site of the Baker Bowl. Better Septa and Amtrak, and a neighborhood ready for development.
If this area is going to continue with empty stores i say try it. At least it won't be a parking lot like location of old Gimbels building. And the title of Fashion District is a bad joke. Yes, The Gallery was built to try to get people back into Center City away from shopping malls. Fail. Will 76 Place help City? Not sure. We need to clean up and deal with homeless problems in city.
Leaving the area in its present moribund state is also a bad choice. Opponents argue the project will both fail to stimulate economic growth and price locals out of the market. But if locals are priced out, that means better heeled residents and businesses are moving in, which will generate revenue for the neighborhood and the city. And if property values and rents are not increasing, Chinatown businesses and residents will not be displaced.
This is cool if you are a local but the Sixers are supported by NJ, Delaware & PA patrons for tickets sales & revenue. Moving away from i95 might not be as lucrative as you think
You ain't from Philly with an ignorant statement like that. The name is the only thing that's new of the Fashion District. That Mall has been there since before you were born and the area has already been there forever. Chinatown came AFTER the location and cut out of that Mall. Stop talking if you dont know $hit. I hate that bs. It's always yall JOE mfs too that know nothing about the city.
Thank you for your videos. Just some feedback on my part here as a Philadelphia resident. 76 Place will be in the Market East neighborhood, not in Chinatown (which is an ADJACENT neighborhood). Chinatown is not some vibrant, culturally thriving area of the city. It is far from it. They are simply NIMBYs who are against anything near them. The argument I have about their real agenda. Where was their anger and protest when the Pennsylvania Convention Center was built? How about when the Fashion District Philadelphia mall was renovated and reopened in 2019? Did not hear anything. Chinatown's protest is only against a sports owner building an arena anywhere near them. That's it. Nothing else. And they evidently would only stop trying to block the arena if they extort millions out of the 76ers to clean up their neighborhood and keep the rent rates from going up more than they already have. Here is an idea for Chinatown. Clean up your own neighborhood. I'm not against sports owners contributing to community benefits deals, but the clear agenda is there from Chinatown and they do not care about anyone else. This is the same neighborhood that demanded and got their way in soon having a future cap of a few blocks over the Vine Street Expressway to have their neighborhood "reconnected" with an urban park. And by the way, there are new, more expensive apartment buildings already under construction in and around Chinatown right now, so where is all the anger over that? I rest my case. I have grown more angry over NBA owners than anyone else because we have seen a trend in the past decade plus for them to do exactly what Josh Harris and David Blitzer are doing. They want their own playpen instead of sharing an arena with an NHL team. It is disgusting they will go to such lengths even if it means having more than one major league arena in a single city. You brought up the Barclays Center and that is the perfect example. I know Brooklyn is big enough as a New York City borough to sustain itself and have an arena, but it was pointless and stupid. New York City may be the largest city in the country, but they did not need a second arena. Philadelphia has roughly one-sixth the population and now the 76ers are getting their own arena. Ridiculous. If the Flyers and 76ers had been partners at Wells Fargo Center instead of the 76ers paying rent, we would not be having this conversation.
The 76ers are privately owned and don’t want to share a arena that they don’t own. Other teams in the NBA own their own arena’s and are making tons of money. The 76ers are limited to what they can do at Wells Fargo Arena because they don’t own it. Now they can be their own tenant without splitting the rent. Wherever they moved to the bottom line is it will be their own property. I haven’t been to Wells Fargo center since it was built, but by the time 76 place opens, it will be beyond state of the art.
@@Mygreyhoundchannel Not totally right. This isn't about not sharing an arena, they do not want to pay rent to the Flyers' parent company to play at Wells Fargo Center and want to control the scheduling of their games and any events in their own venue. NBA owners are more so the ones setting this trend of their own separate arenas from NHL counterparts.
The difference between the arena that I think is bullshit in 76 place & the convention center & the fashion district, is that it was using infrastructure that was already there, the Convention Center using the almost century old Reading Terminal which was replaced by Market East/Jefferson Station, & the Fashion District basically renovating the Gallery under a new name.
I love how you didn't even mention that SEPTA has said that they won't be able to handle the influx of people they are predicting. Not to mention the 3 hospitals that it'll be walking distance from.. so when there is stand still because of, 1 construction, 2 people going to a game, it's going to really suck for somebody who really has to get to one of those three hospitals. Not to mention the fact that this location is five blocks away from Independence Hall...
traffic down there is surprisingly not that bad compared to other cities
They already canceled the low income housing apartments they promised.
Chinatown wanted it removed, because they’re NIMBYs
People need to realize Philly is one of the counties oldest cities and the very narrow streets aren't made for heavy traffic. This is the main reason our downtown has never been a shopping hub. Every attempt the city has made to develop the area fails. No one is going to leave their car to take septa into town. That's also a falling dream.
They are online pushing it because builders say it will bring jobs, but that's only for a few people for a few years and simply isn't worth it. The majority of the preprinted don't want it and have even said they would be fine with them going to Camden across the river in New Jersey but our major sold us out for the money. She will not be reelected for it.
Thank you. They don't care because they don't live or commute in and out of philadelphia.
the streets are quite old.
@@Camie.in.Philly Also, philadelphia is a democratic stronghold they'll just send in the next scam artist.
Stupid greedy Democrats. It will fail. Nobody likes the NBA here. The sixers stink and have no future. Hope the arena is empty and fails because nobody wants to go down there. I know I never will
@@jonjon3443I live in Center City and commute out of Jefferson Station daily. I absolutely want this. Market Street deserves better than the status quo. This is the most transit accessible location in the region.
This project is just a current redevelopment of a poorly executed 2019 redevelopment of a 1980's redevelopment. Arenas are dead zones all day long. I worked in Manhattan and used Penn Station on a regular basis. Madison Square Garden is just a big dead zone all day long. Once its there it will be impossible to get rid of as Manhattan city council has found out the hard way. My vote would be to include it in the 30th Street Station District Plan that has been languishing over the Amtrak rail yards. Imagine Septa, Amtrak and subway lines all coming together adjacent to the arena. Fans from Boston, NYC, Baltimore and DC could hop on a train and arrive right at the arena. That IMO would be a gamechanger for the city.
It will not happen though.
Best part about MSG is that it sits on top of Penn Station. I had head every NYE to see Phish play there. Being able to drive to Newark Penn Station from south jersey and hop on a 15-20 min train and walk right upstairs to MSG is amazing. Sixers really should consider doing the same. Putting it in center city will make it a nightmare to get too for many.
Yeah Boston is similar in structure. Idk why Philly would rather do this Bs tbh
The chase center was built on empty land on a former rail yard. It didn’t disturb local businesses because there were none. The whole area was built up around it
The unnecessary amount of high luxury condo apartment buildings in that area is the real problem.
It will have a corporate sponsor name by the time it’s built. It’s not just a stone’s throw from septa, it’s going to be built right over top of septa which will include regional rail, El train, broad street subway spur connecting to the main service, PATCO HIGH SPEED LINE to New Jersey, Septa light rail trolley service via the same underground a few blocks away and possibly Amtrak and New Jersey Transit trains as well.
Why is it so controversial because they don’t need to move? I’m missing 76ers fan and I am against it. They have a perfect arena where they are at right now.
The sixers do not own the arena they play at...the owner wants his own arena that he can choose his schedule and also make concessions from concerts and games...the sixers don't own Wells Fargo center they rent...this owner is bringing a lot of money into Philly just to build the arena
@@timmysweeps1632BOO HOO so what. And money for who? Spare me the trickle down nonsense.
Just build it next to 30th St. Station & quit giving everyone a headache
I wonder why they just don’t build 76Place in south Philly like the other sports arenas. We have hockey, baseball and football in the area, why not basketball? It’s not congested, there’s space for parking, it’s the last stop for SEPTA and it doesn’t interfere with the residents who live in the area.
Or next to 30th St station
The owner of the fashion District will still own the property so they will still be renting the property out from him and he will be making a lot of money in it. That’s the only reason he is letting them build on half of his property. He’s getting a very substantial deal
You can Take Septa and Trains and Bus and Subway
This development that few want will negatively impact the train station. It will end up being like NY Penn Station after Madison Square Garden was built.
This is cool if you are a local but the Sixers are supported by NJ, Delaware & PA patrons for tickets sales & revenue.
Moving away from i95 might not be as lucrative as you think
@DeRussellMasina this will not be cool to be honest. A majority of the residents who live in Philadelphia do not want this dumpster fire. The mayor and city council were paid off by the Sixers ownership and voted against the wishes of the residents.
The Sixers do not need a new facility. Wells Fargo is plenty adequate. Its set in the right location on the sports complex. This new arena is only a cash grab for the principal investors and contractors. Its clear as day.
If you look on market st from 15th to 8th st there’s barely any stores besides the mall.
Their current arena is perfectly fine! The only thing that could make it better is if they finally get a train line that connects to the existing stadium district, as currently they only have one subway line that runs to the stadium area
Golden 1 Center in Sacramento should be modeled. It’s the best NBA area I’ve ever been to and it’s centered in downtown Sacramento. The locals absolutely love the arena and it’s a gorgeous one at that. I can’t believe it’s always left out and never mentioned. It’s the perfect example of sports leading an urban renewal initiative in a successful way.
The city got the okay to build a stadium Parking should be no problem because right across the street from the Fashion district the site where they want to build the stadium, there is a block-long of boarded up empty stores and shops that look like they were brought out or kicked out their stores
"Fashion District Mall" my backside...
I'm old enough to remember when that mall was called The Gallery at Market East.
The Sixers are better off building their new arena in Camden, New Jersey rather than contributing to the destruction of Center City and Chinatown.
This comment is so laughable. Destruction of any sorts was the pandemic, crime and political stupidity that helped shut down lots of businesses dating back to 2020. Not for the building of an arena in that area of the city. Chinatown will complain about any large project in an adjacent neighborhood next to theirs.
Traffic is already crazy.
This is cool if you are a local but the Sixers are supported by NJ, Delaware & PA patrons for tickets sales & revenue.
Moving away from i95 might not be as lucrative as you think
Can't we build a banger of a parking garage at the stadium complex and upgrades for public transportation for the stadium complex. Then use a handful of empty lots as space for a sixers stadium?
The sports complex will be redeveloped as a long term project, mainly by Comcast Spectacor.
Josh Harris sucks. Screw the sixers until he's gone
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They could've just build a new arena out here in Montgomery county Pa it's so much space out here then it can be close to the kop Mall
Franklin Mills is rotting to the ground... That's technically in city limits of Philly
Delusional
This will be a disaster for the city. Build it at Broad & Lehigh, the site of the Baker Bowl. Better Septa and Amtrak, and a neighborhood ready for development.
THE STADIUM "76 PLACE" WAS APPROVED here in Philly
If this area is going to continue with empty stores i say try it. At least it won't be a parking lot like location of old Gimbels building. And the title of Fashion District is a bad joke. Yes, The Gallery was built to try to get people back into Center City away from shopping malls. Fail. Will 76 Place help City? Not sure. We need to clean up and deal with homeless problems in city.
Anyone arguing for the arena is using the same talking points brought up during urban renewal. Even the compromises sound like the same BS.
Leaving the area in its present moribund state is also a bad choice. Opponents argue the project will both fail to stimulate economic growth and price locals out of the market. But if locals are priced out, that means better heeled residents and businesses are moving in, which will generate revenue for the neighborhood and the city. And if property values and rents are not increasing, Chinatown businesses and residents will not be displaced.
I have yet to meet in person another Philadelphian who wants this damn thing. Everyone I know hates it.
More money coming 💚
How about they win something first? Ya know, earn a new stadium instead of grifting one.
We don’t want that shit the fashion district did work and that shit won’t work either
all the people that’s saying this don’t even live in philly in live in the county 😂
This is cool if you are a local but the Sixers are supported by NJ, Delaware & PA patrons for tickets sales & revenue.
Moving away from i95 might not be as lucrative as you think
Market Street East Fashion Mall didn't ruin Chinatown and I don't think the arena will either.
Chinatown is just against this because it involves a sports owner. That's the real reason.
You ain't from Philly with an ignorant statement like that. The name is the only thing that's new of the Fashion District. That Mall has been there since before you were born and the area has already been there forever. Chinatown came AFTER the location and cut out of that Mall. Stop talking if you dont know $hit. I hate that bs. It's always yall JOE mfs too that know nothing about the city.
Why build there makes zero sense. Will just be a dead zone the majority of the time.
I've been to Philly's chinatown, they just trade the same fish back and forth, no kung fu fighting at all.
Temple will play there too? I've been to the Wawa and chilli's down there
@@mavensbaseball and Mac saved a guy from choking though.
@@Routetherapy10 No, Temple has their own barn in the Liacouras Center.
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Lol wait what 😅
i will go to more sixers games and events due to the location. south philly is …. meh. downtown philly will be a great date night.
You’re in the minority. Have the opportunity to continue to build up the south Philly sports complex
Thank you for your videos. Just some feedback on my part here as a Philadelphia resident. 76 Place will be in the Market East neighborhood, not in Chinatown (which is an ADJACENT neighborhood). Chinatown is not some vibrant, culturally thriving area of the city. It is far from it. They are simply NIMBYs who are against anything near them. The argument I have about their real agenda. Where was their anger and protest when the Pennsylvania Convention Center was built? How about when the Fashion District Philadelphia mall was renovated and reopened in 2019? Did not hear anything.
Chinatown's protest is only against a sports owner building an arena anywhere near them. That's it. Nothing else. And they evidently would only stop trying to block the arena if they extort millions out of the 76ers to clean up their neighborhood and keep the rent rates from going up more than they already have. Here is an idea for Chinatown. Clean up your own neighborhood. I'm not against sports owners contributing to community benefits deals, but the clear agenda is there from Chinatown and they do not care about anyone else. This is the same neighborhood that demanded and got their way in soon having a future cap of a few blocks over the Vine Street Expressway to have their neighborhood "reconnected" with an urban park. And by the way, there are new, more expensive apartment buildings already under construction in and around Chinatown right now, so where is all the anger over that? I rest my case.
I have grown more angry over NBA owners than anyone else because we have seen a trend in the past decade plus for them to do exactly what Josh Harris and David Blitzer are doing. They want their own playpen instead of sharing an arena with an NHL team. It is disgusting they will go to such lengths even if it means having more than one major league arena in a single city. You brought up the Barclays Center and that is the perfect example. I know Brooklyn is big enough as a New York City borough to sustain itself and have an arena, but it was pointless and stupid. New York City may be the largest city in the country, but they did not need a second arena. Philadelphia has roughly one-sixth the population and now the 76ers are getting their own arena. Ridiculous.
If the Flyers and 76ers had been partners at Wells Fargo Center instead of the 76ers paying rent, we would not be having this conversation.
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The 76ers are privately owned and don’t want to share a arena that they don’t own. Other teams in the NBA own their own arena’s and are making tons of money. The 76ers are limited to what they can do at Wells Fargo Arena because they don’t own it. Now they can be their own tenant without splitting the rent. Wherever they moved to the bottom line is it will be their own property. I haven’t been to Wells Fargo center since it was built, but by the time 76 place opens, it will be beyond state of the art.
@@Mygreyhoundchannel Not totally right. This isn't about not sharing an arena, they do not want to pay rent to the Flyers' parent company to play at Wells Fargo Center and want to control the scheduling of their games and any events in their own venue. NBA owners are more so the ones setting this trend of their own separate arenas from NHL counterparts.
The difference between the arena that I think is bullshit in 76 place & the convention center & the fashion district, is that it was using infrastructure that was already there, the Convention Center using the almost century old Reading Terminal which was replaced by Market East/Jefferson Station, & the Fashion District basically renovating the Gallery under a new name.
I can’t wait till the new 76 place is built up & running I’m going to all the sixers game 👏 👏 👏 76ers 4 life
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