The Jedi were ultimately wrong in teaching Anakin not to have attachments. Luke redeems the galaxy and his father through the power of love and attachment.
No they weren’t, you falsely presume “attachments” means loving relationships. Jedi aren’t to marry generally as a discipline similarly to Roman Catholicism’s practice on the issue.
@@justchilling704 The reason the Jedi forbid attachments was because they could lead to the fear of loss, and fear is the path to the Dark Side. But the films go out of their way to show that love transcends that in mysterious ways. The love that Anakin has for his mother is the very thing that inspires his love of justice. The love that Anakin and Obi-Wan have for each other is the very thing that makes them the greatest team in the galaxy. The love that Anakin and Padme have is the very thing that creates a new hope. The love that Leia and Han have inspires them to be braver and nobler people. And the love that Anakin and Luke have for each other is what ultimately brings balance to the Force. Anakin's fear of losing what he loves is ironically what destroys what he loves, driving him to the Dark Side, and only when he loves his son more than he fears losing him does he return to the Light. Vader and Luke could have ruled the galaxy together as father and son, but Vader loved his son too much to allow him to fall to the Dark Side like he had, so he sacrifices his own life, losing his son to save his son, even as his son saves him. It's beautiful. On the flip side, Palpatine is motivated by fear. His fear of death is what drives him in the Dark Side. He is so attatched to his own life that he becomes incapable of love. Palpatine wasn't motivated by a love of life, but by a fear of death, born of selfish attatchment to life, the very sort of attachment that the Jedi Council had warned against since the beginning. The mistake of the Jedi was conflating attachments with loving relationships. The Jedi Order was wrong and loving relationships are good, actually.
@@AJX-2 well realistic about this here is a thought please read it Exodus 7 Jehovah then said to Moses: “See, I have made you like God* to Pharʹaoh, and Aaron your own brother will become your prophet.+ 2
@ No they forbid selfish forms of attachments like possessiveness, Jedi cared about life and loved deeply, even Anakin said this himself in Episode II.
Maybe that's an indication that Star Wars, in the end, undermines the philosophy (Eastern Mystic Traditions) it was a tool for, and illustrates that any vehicle of truth ultimately ends up affirming the Gospel that Christ is Lord and Savior.
@@Thomas-oc2ln Exodus 8 Then Jehovah said to Moses: “Go in to Pharʹaoh and say to him, ‘This is what Jehovah says: “Send my people away so that they may serve me.+ 2
meh the Sith=Christians sounds like a stretch to me as the core tenant of the Dark Side is using your own will and passions to override the will of the Force, which sounds much more like Thelemic/New Age magic than Christianity
If think that Redeemed Zoomer equate Jesus with Darth Vader, please watch the video until the end. Redeemed Zoomer talk about liberal theologians. Those liberal theologians learn from Prebysterian, but those liberal theologians are the one who destroy Christianity.
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@@spinlok3943 If you have a Bible please study it again ? Exodus 15 At that time Moses and the Israelites sang this song to Jehovah:+ “Let me sing to Jehovah, for he has become highly exalted.+ The horse and its rider he has hurled into the sea.+ 2
This guy speaks the language because he was once an Atheist and once he became Christian, the people around him during his formative years were still atheist.
@@dattebayano people from all sorts of backgrounds have the opportunity to study the Bible.Exodus 9 So Jehovah said to Moses: “Go in to Pharʹaoh and say to him, ‘This is what Jehovah the God of the Hebrews has said: “Send my people away so that they may serve me.+ 2
Yeah, I was going to say that that part of the Jedi had vibes of Gnosticism... But the Sith do not teach a Christian message. You don't have to accept the dychotomy.
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@MarkStein-t7d dear... He mentions Gnosticism about a quarter into the video... Maybe a sixth. Also, I made a follow up reply at around the 60% in mark. Also, he presented 2 philosophies with no alternatives. That's necessarily a dichotomy.
Star Wars ultimately says that love is good and that wanting to make the world better is good. The Emperor wasn't destroyed by Luke and his friends detatching from the galaxy, but by getting actively involved in it, making friends, falling in love, and fighting for what was right. The whole reason the Jedi Order fell in the first place was because they had lost sight of that truth because of their pride, having gone too far in the detatchment direction and forgetting why the Force chose them in the first place.
@@AJX-2 okay so ?Exodus 16 After they departed from Eʹlim, the entire assembly of the Israelites eventually came to the wilderness of Sin,+ which is between Eʹlim and Siʹnai, on the 15th day of the second month after their departure from the land of Egypt. 2
Did the Jedi really fall because they neglected to have attachments? As far as I can tell, it was their attachment to the Republic that allowed Palpatine to manipulate them into the Clone Wars so easily. Had they followed the will of the force instead of the will of the bureaucrats, they would have been in a better position. Also, Anakin, by his blinding attachment to his wife, turned to the dark side. It was not a lack of attachments. To be clear, he didn't fall because of love. His attachment to Padme was not a trusting love, and not a selfless love, shown in how he chokes her out when she showed the slightest hint of betrayal. When Luke redeems Anakin, he does do so by attachment, but it matters what kind of attachment. Jedi are encouraged to love, as Anakin says to Padme in episode II, but it is not to be the selfish obsession Anakin has for Padme, rather the bold and trusting love Luke displayed when he proclaimed himself a Jedi.
@@jasonsomers8224In episode 3, when Anakin goes to Yoda about he fear of loss of Padame, Yoda basically says “learn to detach, people die, get over it” and that is clearly a Buddist-ish teaching. A Christ focused teaching would be to tell Anakin that his fears and visions of loss are from the enemy, trying to pull him away from connection to God, and that he must put his faith in trust in God, keep the sacraments, confess your sins, and pray for her, but know that YOU cannot change any come by your own power, only God can. The love and care the Jedi teach is more like new-age love than Christian love, which is no correct. Love isn’t some disembodied force, it is God.
The movies intentionally show the weekness of the Jedi philosophy. The Jedi caused in part the fall of anakin. From the point of view of the movies, goodness and jedism are close but not identical. The sith though are all about personal power, not humility or submission. Jesus laid down his life for us, and we are supposed to do that for each other, that's as antisith as it gets.
In addition, the Sith manipulate through lies; they play the devil’s tricks throughout the entire saga. It is why Lucas described Palpatine as being a Satanic figure; he gains power through lies and manipulation, by playing good intended people like pawns in a game of chess. The Sith - as a whole - built themselves off of the nature of fallen man; inherently selfish, self-entitled, and self-gratifying.
Sidious tricked Anakin. If Anakin obeyed the Jedi rule of attachments then he wouldn't have been tricked so easily. For the Jedi it's a different power, like when Obi Wan dies or disappears in A new hope. It's not the same as the power and control of people that the Sith do. And let's face it, there are many Christian desert fathers who were and are ascetics and celibate.
While I would comfortably say that the prequel Jedi's "no family" practices and some of their other beliefs are wrong, the Jedi did not cause the fall of Anakin at all; Anakin's fall was a result of his own bad decisions and manipulation by Palpatine. I don't get why people always blame the Jedi Order for Anakin's fall to the dark side and the fall of the Republic. They were betrayed from within, any organization could get torn apart by that.
@, it comes down to the Jedi not providing him any proper advice and not giving him some form of exception to the rule. After all, it was their initial doubt that began to sew the seeds in Anakin that would become his lack of faith in the Jedi, which would only be affirmed further by the advice given to him by Yoda and Mace Windu’s actions when confronting Palpatine (an act he interpreted as against the ways of the Jedi, which Windu - himself - constantly reinforced upon Anakin while seemingly never following himself).
for the god emperor of man kind. Jesus is god and king, emperor is simply a more powerful that rule a larger realm than a king, so Jesus is emperor and god is true. In conclusion for the god emperor of mankind
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Star wars was made by an american who loves buddhist philosophy so it incorporates aspects of both. But seeing how american culture is rooted in christianity the message that George Lucas ultimately delivers is christian, not buddhist, whether he did it intentionally or not. You must understand the subtlety to see what he was really saying in the movies. Also the extended universe goes a lot more in depth into the ideas if you're interested.
I think it is less about understanding the subtlety and more about your personal interpretation on it. Lucas made a Buddhist-inspired work with an audience raised on Christian morals (whether they realize it or not). That does not change the message that he portrayed through his work
@@emerald10005it wasn't any one thing. He's made it pretty clear that he wasn't trying to make any theological statement. Star Wars is a blend of inspiration, primarily Buddhism and Christianity (and Judaism just a bit). His message is ultimately Christian, though. He didn't really make it with the purpose of it being a "Christian message," but I doubt he would be opposed to people identifying with it that way because it's something that he greatly admires about Christianity. The ultimate message of his story is about the redemptive power of love and self sacrifice.
@@Tyler_W Yeah, I noticed it when reading visions of the future when Mara and Luke were talking. So I googled it and found he was the co-writer on devotional book. I haven't read it so couldn't tell you what flavor of Christian. If you haven't already, highly recommend his Icarus book series.
Boomer evangelical: Star Wars promotes a Bhuddist ideology "Shut up, I dont believe in that nonsense" RZ: Star Wars promotes a Bhuddist ideology "Sooooo true!"
@@elijahknox4421 yeah a mix of various faiths and ideologies he admires and was inspired by. He was never trying to make some sort of theological statement, and he makes this pretty clear.
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Romans 13:1-2 "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation." The rebels are therefore violating God's law
@@zr3755 But even still The Force used them to bring about its will and fulfill the Prophecy to restore balance ("balance" here means good, and "imbalance" means evil, according to Lucas), just as God uses the deeds of evil and rebellious men to fulfill his will.
The philosophy of the Sith is all about self-actualization, at the expense of everyone and everything else around you. I don't really see the parallels between that and Christianity. Furthermore, just because George Lucas was clearly inspired by Eastern Religion and spiritualism, that doesn't mean he was trying to create an anti-Christian message.
He was also greatly inspired by Christianity, not just Buddhism. His story was never intended to be an allegory like that. He took general ideas from different sources to make a broader, universal point. The message, ultimately, is a very Christian one. The long arc is about the redemptive power of love and self sacrifice.
I don’t think the Sith actually achieve self actualization. To achieve self actualization you need to satisfy the other aspects of the hierarchy of needs: esteem, love and belonging, safety, physiological needs. The core of Sith philosophy is greed, selfishness. Those who embrace the Dark Side are miserable because they live in fear of losing things, people, power, etc. they justify doing whatever it takes to to get more power to protect the power they have or to take it from those who have power (why the apprentice tries to betray the master, or the master tries to replace the apprentice). The Sith don’t experience love or belonging because they are afraid of losing what they have. They pursue pleasure (short term happiness) but experience no joy. In contrast the Jedi are the embodiment of selflessness. They give of their whole selves for the benefit of others. They have compassion for everyone. They can have friendships, but when those friends leave or die, they are sad but move on. They have nothing to lose and everything to gain. They give up a life of joy (long term happiness) and fulfillment. I would argue the Jedi are more self actualized than the Sith. The Jedi reach their full potential. The Sith are selfish, lonely, and are full of fear and hate.
Sith do not fear lose. The reason they do not have loving relationships and friends ect is because they know these attachments ultimately lead to weakness; loved ones can hold you back, can be used to exploit you ect. The same goes for compassion - it hinders you from doing what is necessary. Also, Sith do not pursue pleasure. They pursue power, self-mastery, self-transformation and excellence. The Sith apprentice seeks to kill their master when that master is no longer necessary. This keeps the order strong because each apprentice surpasses each master ( proving themselves stronger by killing them), ensuring with each succession the order evolves.
Hard disagree. The jedi council is literally like the pharasees, who ignore the prophecized chosen one (messiah), Anakin dies in Star Wars and later on returns from the death, triumphing over evil and overcoming his evil, to redeem the force. Also the sith literally are all about passions and giving into your feelings and vices. Cant realy get more christian in a sci fi movie, can it?
These comparisons are off. The Jedi actively try to fight evil in all three trilogies. They try to kill Palpatine in all 3. The Sith are extremely self-interested and driven by greed and/or rage.
@@PhonySopran0 Nothing Palpatine says sounds remotely like Jesus. The famous opera scene alone clearly outlines the Sith worldview as basically being Nietzschean.
This also clouded their vision over time, too. Their attachment to the Republic became their downfall. The Je'dii, the older version of the jedi, actually preached the exact point.
That's because the Jedi compromised their philosophy to become politically involved with the Republic. It's like pastors preaching LGBT stuff in the name of diversity despite the bible explicitly forbiding it
The core Sith ideology completely contradicts just the beatitudes alone. “Blessed are the peacekeepers” - Jesus “Peace is a lie, there is only passion” - Sith code “Blessed are the merciful” - Jesus “Compete or die, mercy is irrelevant” - Uthar Wynn, Sith Academy master The Sith are just cliche bad guys that people make excuses for to justify their craving for power at the expense of others, no different than many ideologies of the past and present world. They were such savages to even themselves that Bane had to basically limit their numbers to only two at a time, otherwise they’d all just kill each other. The Sith live by the sword and they all die by the sword, all advanced Sith knew this If there was ever a Star Wars equivalent to the goofy title of the “Antichrist”, it would be Palpatine. He told Vader that when the Sith will rule the galaxy, then “we shall have peace”, but the Sith code literally says peace is a lie. The Jedi Council are like the Pharisees and useless shepherds, but the Sith are way worse
The Jedi were the ones who were able to retain their individuality after death, becoming one with the Force while still being their own person, freed from the clutches and temptations of the Dark Side. This parallels Christian theosis much more than Buddhist nirvana.
Cheating death by rebelling against the will of the Force is indeed what the Sith do. But actually triumphing over death and gaining eternal life is something only the Jedi can do.
@johnrockwell5834 How is that so, when Luke's "lightning ability" in Legends? I think, is called "force judgement"? Clearly there is a "righteous anger" component to Jedi, that was also what the "Jedi Sentinels" were about. Anyways, Star Wars is very dumb
The issue is more that star wars lore is an inconsistent and haphazard mess. Star wars fans will be like "Nuh uh because Jason Solo Grey Jedi!!" like there's not 30 books contradicting whichever one you're cherry picking as your example to support your point. Star wars doesn't understand star wars.
It's fair to say the Jedi mindset is more in line with Buddhism than Christianity, but to say Jesus is closer to a Sith is unfair. The Star Wars prequels attempted to show, not just the faults with the Sith, but the Jedi as well. George wanted to portray the Jedi as people who were too pious they ignored the real problems of society: sort of like religious hypocrits. The mindset of forsaking all attachments is criticized in the narrative as what pushed Anakin to the darkside, because if the Jedi didn't care about his mother or his wife, maybe the Sith would? But in truth, the Sith did not care, they only pretended to care. In the Sith mindset, you do not have the humility or willfull sacrifice emphasized by Christianity, and their method of "cheating death" was only really tried by Darth Plaugus. Darth Plaugus, relatively speaking, was a much more compassionate Sith than the ones we see in the films. Palpatine only really used the story as leverage to bait Anakin into being his servant, he didn't really care about "cheating death" until Disney did their Disney shenanigans. And, in addition to the inherent political commentary of the prequels, Anakin's line of "If you're not with me, then you're my enemy" feels more lifted from George Bush speeches than any Bible verse. It feels like you just heard the tragedy of Darth Plaugus the wise, and took all your knowledge of the Sith from that. There are elements of the Jedi that could be seen as Christian adjacent as well, such as surrendering to the will of the force and self control. There are elements of the Sith that could be seen as Anti-Christian, such as fully giving into emotions of anger and desire, and letting them fuel you. The Sith kill people. "Love thy enemy" is more in line with Obi-Wan's "You were my brother Anakin!" than Anakin's "I hatech'you!" It portrays politicians and religious leaders in a very grey sense, where there is some inherent good in them that can be blinded by hypocracy. Neither Sith nor Jedi are 100% comparable to Christianity, even if some elements of "the force" in general were borrowed from all sorts of religions. The Originals were much more standard goodie v.s. badie stuff, whereas the prequels were much more politically complex.
The worst thing is that Anakin is inspired by jesus in certain degree, and also the force is sentient is a God after all Anakin's mother was pregnant by the force, just like Mary.
hats off? I genuinely consider it blasphemous that he compared Jesus, who's known for being selfless, to the sith, who's whole philosphy is rooted in selfishness. He's cherrypicking to be controversial
I don’t think saying Jesus is like a Sith is supposed to be taken particularly seriously. It’s just meant to demonstrate that the Jedi and the philosophy of Star Wars is sort of inverted and contrary to Christianity.
@@joshuabarnard5702 But the story of Star Wars is literally about a Chosen One figure who faced consternation from the religious authorities of his day but winds up fulfilling his destiny by destroying the silver-tongued dark lord perpetuating the great state of spiritual evil consuming the galaxy. The only real caveat might be this character himself getting corrupted for a long while before returning to the light is a difference but even that opens the door to solid lessons about family and redemption.
Here's why Christians≠Sith. The ideology of the Sith is against love, against all good and beautiful things. Darth Malgus, for example, killed his lover. Palpatine wanted Padmé to die. Anakin's love for her children brought him back from the Dark Side. The Sith encourage revelling in one's passions, encouraging lust, anger, fear, and hate. The Jedi are unlike Christians in many ways, and they fell because they were unable to recognize the danger, unable to change their ways, too entrenched in the politics of the Republic, unable to view loving someone in anyway but a path to the darkside. As Christians, many ideals of the Jedi are ones we can agree with. Not letting your emotions control, seeking peace and defending the innocent. We want to be like Qui gon, or Luke. Recognizing our emotions as good, following the will of God, not treating others with scorn or contempt. Luke gets married and has a kid btw. 😊
And much of the ways in which the wrongs of the Jedi are corrected are much more in line with Christian ideas. The Force and all of that business was never intended to be a one to one for anything in particular. Lucas made himself pretty clear about his creative intent in this regard, though if anything, the overarching story is fundamentally Christian because the goal of the story was to illustrate the redemptive power of love and self sacrifice.
This is literally the whole point of Star Wars. The Jedi keep losing to the Sith because they’re so detached that they can’t understand why anyone, like Anakin, would become a Sith. Yoda and Obi-Wan tell Luke he needs to kill Vader because they have no understanding of why Anakin is evil. Luke was the first Jedi in centuries to realize that compassion, redemption, and understanding are necessary parts of doing good and combatting evil. If the Jedi had done that, Anakin wouldn’t have turned. The last film is called “Return of the Jedi” not because the literal Jedi are coming back, but what the Jedi were meant to stand for is coming back in Luke, at least until Disney craps all over it. I don’t see how you can watch Star Wars and come away from it thinking the Jedi’s philosophy is supposed to be emulated. Every Star Wars fan knows this.
Not really. George Lucas himself said that he used multiple religious influences while constructing the ideology of Star Wars, not just Buddhism. Specifically, he said the influences were Buddhism, Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. And I feel like you can see the Christian influence in Star Wars pretty clearly. I mean the “light side vs dark side” stuff could easily be seen as “faithful vs unfaithful.” The nature of the Jedi’s discipline and depriving themselves of worldly selfish pleasures, while selflessly and heroically serving the world around them is very Christian. Not to mention if you’re a good enough Jedi, and have enough faith in “the force,” you can learn to become a force ghost after death and live to chill for all eternity as yourself. Saying that Star Wars is *only* Buddhism and not a general mishmash of New Age spiritualism, and that Jesus Christ would be a Sith, is hilariously a stretch. Especially considering that if you break it all down, the fundamental difference between the two sides is that the dark side is self-interested and the light side is selfless. Saying Jesus would be on the dark side just because he’s against death or whatever is too specific a critique and doesn’t really cut it for me.
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A proper sacrifice does not require anything from those meant to benefit from it. Moreover, Jesus (allegedly) didn't actually die; he didn't stay dead. So there's that.
@@audreyc3398actually a singular they would be appropriate here because it's talking about a person of unknown gender, as siths could be male or female. Now if the sith identified as non-binary that woukd be a very different story
Yeah... no. 1. The Jedi believe that "balance" is good overcoming evil. 2. They only discourage selfish attachments. 2. They also encourage compassion (agape) and familial love between each other. 3. The Force is more or less a deity with its own divine will. 4. The Jedi subject themselves fully to the will of the Force, essentially to be insturments. 5. The Jedi do believe in an afterlife. It's a kind of theosis where they become perfectly united with the Force. 6. The Jedi are active in galaxy as peacekeepers working with the authorities.
This is awesome! I love your videos zoomer, thank you for being a stepping stone for me coming to the true Christianity. I grew up one of Jehovah’s witnesses and left as a teenager, but watching your explanations along with others and just reading the Bible for myself, I have begun to understand the truth, I even found a wonderful Presbyterian church near me I attended for a long time. I have since found my home in the Catholic Church but I absolutely love my Protestant and orthodox brothers and sisters. God bless you and your work, it’s helped a lot of people, God is working through you and through you God has brought many folks home!
One thing to keep in mind, the Jedi in the prequel trilogy were making a lot of mistakes and being very legalistic in thinking. Therefore, Yoda‘s advice to simply accept death was supposed to be bad advice.
Death gets thrown down into the pit of fire. Anakin gets thrown into lava. Palpatine gets thrown down the Death Star and explodes. It's like poetry... it rhymes.
Kind of. You see, sith don't really want people to give into all their feelings. They just want to give into their feelings like anger, hate, and fear. If someone gives into feelings of great joy or love the sith don't actually like that either.
"The reason Anakin Skywalker turned to the dark side is because the Jedi taught him that he was not allowed to love anyone" ~ RedeemedZoomer (you're not wrong) "I killed them. I killed them all. And not just the men, but the women and the children, too. They're like animals, and I slaughtered them like animals. I hate them!" ~ Anakin Skywalker
The tragedy of Anakin was that he had an enormous potential but that was undermined by his traumas, emotionality and bad luck: he was too young to understand certain dynamics but too old to be properly nurtured by the Order; he needed Qui-Gonn but got Obi-Wan; he was destined to greatness but also misguided by his impatience, impulsivity and need of possession. Cherry on top, the only man he came to trust was Palpatine who mischievously and strategically gave him favours. Anakin wasn't a Christ-like figure but a Wagnerian one.
From my perspective, neither the light nor the dark side is inherently good. The light side often reflects teachings similar to Buddhism, which can contrast with Christian values, while the dark side resembles the Pharisees, twisting God’s word for personal gain. The best path is to be a Grey Jedi or simply a Force user-non-denominational in approach-honoring God and using the gift of the Force, which parallels the Holy Spirit.
I am a Buddhist viewer of your channel as I find other religious views interesting and am also open to learning about those traditions. For some background, I was raised Catholic and have more recently explored Quakerism and have wanted to learn about Christianity more generally again. I agree with how you explain Buddhism for the most part but wanted to add, though it may be a minor detail, that what is seen as evil in Buddhism *is* still sought to be transformed through inner and outer work (meditation and intentional acts) rather than something to ignore. Mindfulness doesn't teach us to ignore, but to look at suffering and evil, and examine its roots to transform it (which is believed to be rooted in worldly and mental delusions). I agree there is a difference in that it is inherently non-dualistic and does not place salvation in the hands of an external being such as God or Jesus, but it is not inactive and there is spiritual training that is done (like the Jedis), however misguided others may believe those efforts to be. I also agree there is a divide in how the material world is seen between the two religions and I admit I don't know enough about the Christian view to examine the two. These topics are the ones I find most interesting. Are there any resources you'd recommend or videos on your channel on Christian eschatology and beliefs on eternalism/dualism/monism? Other commenters welcome as long as the comments remain a respectful space. I have nothing bad to say about Christianity as a whole and this video was very interesting!
So Sith does not fit with the view of Christianity otherwise many people would have ended. Long explanation of the differences of The Sith and Christianity (Specifically what Jesus taught) The Sith do against what Jesus taught. The Sith seek to gain power over others and shape events according to their desires, often leading to a cycle of conflict and domination. Their way of achieving goals is often ruthless and self-serving, valuing strength above all else. In contrast, Jesus teaches humility and emphasizes that true greatness comes from serving others rather than seeking personal power. He advocates for loving one’s enemies and blessing those who persecute you (Matthew 5:44), promoting a radical form of love and selflessness that stands in stark opposition to the Sith's motivations. The Sith embrace conflict as a necessary means for growth and empowerment, reflecting a survival-of-the-fittest mindset. They see conflict not only as inevitable but also as a method to assert dominance and legitimacy, often advocating for vengeance and retaliation to achieve their ends. Jesus, on the other hand, preaches love, forgiveness, and reconciliation. He encourages followers to avoid vengeance and instead turn the other cheek when wronged (Matthew 5:39). His approach focuses on healing and reconciliation rather than conflict, underscoring forgiveness as a pathway to true reconciliation with oneself and others. The Sith are characterized by their self-centeredness and willful pursuit of personal desires They believe that pursuing individual ambition and desires is paramount, and they frequently exploit others to gain the upper hand. Their emotional manipulation is often directed towards achieving personal legacies at the expense of others' well-being. In stark contrast, Jesus emphasizes the importance of considering others before oneself, urging individuals to care for the marginalized and oppressed. His teachings promote altruism and the idea of community support, reflecting a selfless approach to life. He also made it clear that someone’s desires are not of good or holy but of Evil and that they should repent and deny themselves. I am open to answer your questions on Christianity.
I think you make a good case on some points, but I will reinstate once again that the Jedi Order is heavily criticised in the movies, especially in the prequels. Things such as not making attachments are shown to lead to big problems, as you mention. The fact the Jedi Order ignored the bad things about the universe is what allowed the republic to be infiltrated by Sidious. Anakin was right that Obi-Wan was his enemy, Obi-Wan was delusional. It's clear that Obi-Wan (falsely) believed that Anakin was beyond redemption. That's why he snuck on the ship in the first place, he was there to kill Anakin. And for that reason, Anakin went mental when he saw Obi-Wan instead of listening to Padme. Obi-Wan was wrong, Luke and Padme were right. Star Wars does not endorse Jedi Order doctrine on this point. Sidious was straight-up lying about Darth Plagueris. Darth Plagueris saved no-one, hence why we never hear of it again as soon as Vader becomes Sith. We know from the old expanded universe (and probably the new expanded universe by now, they've been moving stuff over) Plagueris was actually about making himself immortal and didn't care about anyone else, the issue was that immortal meant 'doesn't age', not 'immune to being strangled'. Luke is shown as the model for what the Jedi should actually be like. He has friendships, is very passionate about things, wept over people dying, doesn't ignore the bad things, and is willing to fight when necessary.
George Lucas included Anakin's statement "You're either with me or you're my enemy" as a slight against the President at the time, George W. Bush. Bush had stated "You're either with us or you're with the terrorists" partially to echo Christ's declaration. George Lucas didn't really know that connection, but yes, indirectly, you get Darth Vader spewing out a sort of echo of something Jesus said.
The scene in the empire strikes back where Yoda tells Luke to lift his x-wing but it starts to sink and Yoda does it for him is pretty similar to when Peter tried walking on water but started sinking in my opinion.
The Jedi are *not* a representation of all that is true and right. The prequels are about how the Jedi Order became rigid and dogmatic, detached from reality and unable to see or prevent the coming evil. And this is the very reason they got wiped out. Their adherence to buddhist ideals was the reason they failed. If this is buddhist propaganda, this is the worst propaganda I've ever seen. Also, when we talk about balance, a lot of people misunderstand it to mean an equal amount of good and evil. But that's not true at all. It's more like calmness in the force, as opposed to the turbulence caused by the sith. This is precisely why the Jedi talk about DESTROYING the sith and thus bringing balance to the force. If they meant an equal amount of good and evil, then destroying the sith would disrupt the balance in the force. But that's clearly not what they mean.
I don't think "then your my enemy" is meant to be a reference to Jesus. More likely given Lukas' political opinions this was more of a accept everyone and be friends way of thinking that lead to that quote. It's a very western thing to fail to understand what an enemy is. Ironically, I think it comes from Christianity but what happens to those who are raised on Christian morals but lose faith.
@@viperstriker4728if it was a reference to anytbing, it was a reference to George W. Bush. "You're either with us or the terrorists." Obi-wan saying "Only a Sith deals in absolutes" was not a general statement. It was a response to what Anakin previously said and was criticizing radical, polarized ways thinking in terms of friendship, loyalty and politics. If you were to draw direct parellels to the real life politics of the early-mid 00s, Lucas is saying "just because I don't think we should blow up the Middle East and wage endless forever wars does not mean that I support terrorists killing Americans."
@@Tyler_WYou're probably correct, but the fact this is made so unclear in the films is yet another failing of the Prequels and their horrendous script
Im writing this before I begin watching. I specifically always thought that the Jedi were the embodiment of Christianity and the sith of Nihilism. The Jedi believe in good and evil, and that all is according to the will of the Force. Kinda like Christianity. The Sith believe that good and evil are subjective myths, and that the only thing that matters is strength and power. Kinda like nihilists.
@@purplesamurai5373 There absolutely are arguments to be made against this thesis. This looks like just another example of the increasing trend for Evangelical types to take the side of the designated bad guys in nearly every piece of popular media just to prove how apart from and unsullied by the secular culture they are. And I don’t really see how knee-jerk contrarianism is any more freethinking. That is not to say there aren’t genuine cases, but perhaps even most of the time they seem decidedly not.
Honestly, while being Christian i feel a Lot like a Jedi. Being compassionate to others, resisting my dark side(sin) and learn The ways of The lord everyday Much like the force, my Lord has a Will, and obeying his will is the Path to light.
I love the spiritual aspects in Star Wars because I can still interpret parallels between it and the Biblical narrative. For example the Jedi counsel in the prequels parallel the Pharisees and the religious elite who rejected their own "messiah" due to misinterpretations/ignorance of prophecy. Obviously Jesus did not have a "dark side" arc but His death on the cross could be interpreted as such or just a representation of the "dark times". Of course then Jesus' resurrection is very clearly paralleled thorough Vader's redemption and legacy through Luke. It is important to note that to my knowledge the "balance" in Star Wars originally meant the eradication of the dark side, until it was later changed mostly through Dave Filoni's interpretation in my opinion. What Zoomer says in this video is generally true though, but it is also true that I have used Star Wars to explain the gospel to people before.
Kreia: "To belive in an ideal, is to be willing to betray it. It is somthing no Sith or Jedi has ever truly learned." "If you are to truly understand, than you will need the contrast, not adherence to a single idea."
9:50 one thing with the death of a Jedi is that they come back in spirit form. You don't see Sith come back like this. I don't know much about Darth Plagius but I thought this was a tale that Sidious told Anakin to confuse him into thinking that they could save Padme from death if Anakin would only join the darkside. And they never did revive Padme...
Not true. Balance in the world of Star Wars is the destruction of the sith, which occurs in return of the Jedi. The name is an obvious reference to “the return of Jesus”. Lucas is an open Christian who says palpatine is satan. He is sympathetic to Buddhism and you can see that in the movies, but you ignore the Christian elements. The Jedi are also supposed to be Christian monks. When palpatine says “good” is a point of view, hes directly mirroring satan in the garden.
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I have never heard Lucas say he is Christian. He speaks well of it, but doesn't seem to have faith himself. Though Timothy Zahn definitely is a Christian.
Alternate titles: "I don't know the first thing about star wars" "I haven't heard of Qui Gon Jin" "I commit blasphemy using star wars" "I give the worst English accent ever spoken" "I pronounce GIF wrong" The original purpose of the jedi is to carry out the will of the force. The purpose of Christians is to carry out the will of God. The purpose of the sith is to do anything out of self interest. Palpatine is probably the closest fictional to being Satan I've ever seen, his cunning, his lies, his false promises, his selfishness, his pleasure in the suffering of others. You're grasping at the thread of the sith while ignoring the rope of the jedi.
What he say isn't blasphemy because he doesn't understand star wars. This actually makes some great points about Christianity if you shared his misunderstanding about the themes of star wars.
@@viperstriker4728 the sith philosophy is using everything for your own personal gain and selfishness, that is their most fundamental philosophy, then he compares Jesus to them
@@viperstriker4728and not really blasphemous but bad theology, he talks about how meditating on things is bad when it is frequently commanded in the Psalms
@@elijahknox4421 But ignore what you know about star wars and consider just what he said. He never talks about the sith selfishness. And on meditation, he talks about how the "clear your mind" meditation is bad. Psalms says to meditate on, which is very different from zone out and see where you mind goes.
5:24 the fundamental sith philosophy is one of selfishness. The fundamental jedi philosophy is carrying out the will of the force. Which is more similar to Christianity? The whole video is zoomer ignoring the fundamental philosophies of the jedi and the sith and nitpicking small details to argue his case while showing his lack of understanding of star wars He also says himself that "the jedi are taught to meditate on the force alone". Christians are taught to meditate on God and His words
This is the TYPE of content I want! Finding paralels between real world religions and fictional ones. Next do the Abbey of Everyman vs the Outsider! Please!
I'm an expert on Buddhism and the philosophy of the Jedi bares scant resemblance to Buddhism. I think you're egregiously misinformed about what Buddhists believe. Harmony and balance are not Buddhist ideals, they're more indicative of Chinese philosophies, particularly Taoism.
Right. Star Wars isn't even trying to pull from one philosophical and theological source. It has influences of Buddhism, Christianity, Taoism, and Judaism mostly, but it wasn't trying to make a theological statement. Lucas is very clear about his creative intent and why he used various spiritual traditions for inspiration the way he did. It certainly wasn't an endorsement of Buddhism or anti-Christian. The story is thematically pro-Christian if anything because it depicts this inter-generational family drama to illustrate the redemptive power of love and self sacrifice.
It is worth throwing out there that a lot of people seem to mistaken the Yin-Yang principle for being the heart of Daoism when that’s not really the case. Important to be sure but borrowed from the School of Naturalists and integrated into a system focused on going with the flow of the Dao.
Attempt 2 at getting Zoomer to adress his anti-Reformed Baptist bias. He regularly pretends we have no church history, we don't exist, are just Baptists who believe in predestination, or is out right offended by our existence. It is offensive to be honest and I will post this under all of his videos until he addresses my points. I do this out of love not hate. It is important for all Christians to have mutual respect and understanding and I want my perspective as a Reformed Baptist understood. Particular Baptists are Baptists who believe in particular redemption. Particular Baptists who more closely follow Reformed ideology and closely adhere to the 1689 Confession are called Reformed Baptists. These churches are often part of associations like the Association of Reformed Baptist Churches of America (ARBCA). Particular Baptists were one of many groups of Puritans who broke from the Church of England and, in 1638, emerged as a distinct group of Baptists with Calvinist beliefs. In 1644, seven Particular Baptist churches in London published the First London Baptist Confession. Two years later, in 1646, the Westminster Confession of Faith (which had been started in 1643) was adopted by the Westminster Assembly. The Particular Baptists then published the Second London Baptist Confession of 1689 (written in 1677), which aligned with the Westminster Confession but integrated with the Baptist distictive of Believer's Baptism. Particular Baptists migrated to the American Colonies fleeing from persecution. In 1707, the Philadelphia Baptist Association was formed, and it adopted the Philadelphia Confession of Faith in 1742. This was followed by the 1833 New Hampshire Confession of Faith, which was unifying for American Baptists, and represented a more moderate form of Calvinism that integrated well with other Baptist denominations. The Southern Baptist Convention would later use the New Hampshire Confession of Faith as a guide when developing their Baptist Faith and Message of 1925. This eventually evolved into the Baptist Faith and Message of 1963. Today, the Founders Ministries (a Reformed Baptist group) continues to influence the Southern Baptist Convention and has contributed to its conservative resurgence. Reformed Baptists are a diverse group. Some fully embrace Calvinistic theology (Reformed Baptists) while others, including some Southern Baptists, hold a more moderate or partial Calvinistic view. Reformed Baptists (followers of The Second London Baptist Confession of 1689) hold many beliefs shared by other Reformed denominations that aren't shared by Particular Baptists in other Baptist denominations. Some of these beliefs are 1. The Lord's Supper serves as a symbolic and spiritual means of grace. (Chapter 30: Of the Lord's Supper) 2. The plurality of elders (Chapter 26: Of the Church) 3. Elements of Covenant Theology (Chapter 7 - Of God’s Covenant with Man, Chapter 19 - Of the Law of God) Reformed Baptist's have a rich church history that has influenced other Christian denominations and evolved alongside General Baptists and Presbyterians. They are more than just Baptists who believe in predestination. The use of the name Reformed Baptist's is a recent development, with the purpose of differentiating themselves from less Calvinistic Baptists.
I think it comes down to him on the one hand sticking by the synodal structure over the congregational structure of the Baptists and trying to find more reasons than that to reject them, and that he also has an internalized concept of Baptists being nondenoms without the light show or Pentecostals without the Tounges: theologically shallow and overly emotional. You've given good reasons why that's not the case, but I feel like his convictions toward church structure and the regulative principle are too strong for you to make headway. He'd probably sooner become a Methodist and reject Reformed Theology entirely than "stoop down to the Baptist's level"
There's a sense of detachment that is Christian. Basically detaching yourself from your desires for anything other than Christ and not allowing anything else to interfere with your spiritual journey. The difference is Christians detach themselves from worldly things so that they might grow closer to God. In Oriental religions specifically Buddhism the attachment is an end on to itself. I've heard the Christian mysticism begins where Eastern mysticism ends.
No, no and no. I'm 59 seconds in and you are completely wrong, if not outright intentionally lying about everything regarding what Star Wars teaches. 1: No. Jedi do not teach detachment from the Galaxy. Quite the opposite. They are teaching that every living thing in the Galaxy has intrinsic value. That's what the Force is about. The Force is literally a manifestation of life, therefore obeying the Force means obeying life itself. What the Jedi do teach, is not forming emotional attachments towards anything or anyone, but having universal, unconditional compassion towards everything and everyone. 2: George Lucas has explicitly explained, that Balance of the Force does not mean daoist style equlibrium between the Dark and the Light. In fact, there's not a single mention in any of his movies about a Light side, they only ever talk about The Force itself, and the Dark side of the Force. The Light side was a garbage concept concocted by the hacks writing the EU, and Lucas actually went out of his way to show the flaws of this interpretation in a trilogy of episodes in the 2008 The Clone Wars series, in which the Dark side is able to destroy the Light and topple the Balance specifically, because it was kept in an equlibrium with the Light (Mortis-trilogy S3E15-17). The Dark side is not a counterbalance to the Light. It's a corruption of the Force. It's selfishness, that takes without giving, poisoning the universal lifeforce. It's a tumour, that kills it's host and with it, itself. Those are the words of the creator of Star Wars himself.
This is awesome! I love your videos zoomer, thank you for being a stepping stone for me coming to the true Christianity. I grew up one of Jehovah’s witnesses and left as a teenager, it took me awhile to unlearn their false doctrines but watching your explanations along with others and just reading the Bible for myself helped me to begin my journey and I found a wonderful Presbyterian church near me I attended for a long time. I have since found my home in the Catholic Church but I absolutely love my Protestant and orthodox brothers and sisters. God bless you and your work, it’s helped a lot of people, God is working through you and through you God has brought many folks home!
This is kind of true. In return of the Jedi both Obi-Wan / Yoda and the emperor thought that by allowing himself to experience his emotions Luke was going to be forced to get into the dark side. Luke leveraged his love for his father and his hope for a better future it is believed that his father could be redeemed to drive him to successfully do so despite a momentary lapse where he succumbed to his own anger. But both Jedi and sith assumed that emotions themselves were the problem. Whereas Luke proved that rightly oriented emotions have no control over you.
What? The Jedi follow the will of the force and make themselves a vessel of a higher power. The sith contort the force to the ends of their ego and limited foresight. Jesus is not a sith, he's a Jedi
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I feel like in the original trilogy Luke pushes back against the Jedi philosophy a bit by going to rescue his friends on Cloud City despite Yoda's advice against it, even if it meant sacrificing them for the greater good. Luke chose to attempt to save his friends because his connection to them was greater than his commitment to finish his training as Yoda insisted. The fact that he survives his encounter with Vader and eventually succeeds in the third film hints at something greater than Buddhist philosophy: redemption through repentance. Vader becomes Anakin again by witnessing his son's unwavering belief that it wasn't too late for him to do the right thing. I believe it is this additional element that Lucas deliberately or inadvertently added that ultimately resonated with audiences, something that a strict adherence to quasi-Buddhist principles would not have accomplished. It may also be why the woke have since attempted to undo all of these accomplishments in the sequels.
The Jedi and Sith hate one thing and that is Love. Because it forms attachment and care about others as well as distracts from devotion to their respective faction. Notice how a lot of Jedi and Sith behave in a similar way relative to their own factions. The Jedi are wise and distant while the Sith are charismatic and aggressive. Ultimately both sides strongly dislike those that love and those that show strong will that affirms their own character rather than submission to the Jedi and the Sith, Qui-Gon was a Maverick among the Jedi because he was a free thinker and Revan was actually a descent fellow even as a Sith. Rather or not the Force or the cults that are the two main factions of it are evil or not is up to the people to decide but in the end, the only message that is perhaps unintentionally sent is that people cannot allow themselves to become slaves to dogma, nor allow power to give rise to it and to be true to one's self no matter how tempting power or serenity may be.
I think to sum up the critiques of what everyone was saying, the Jedi aren't actually the protagonists of Star Wars, or at least, the Venn Diagram isn't a complete overlap. Luke's entire arc in the original trilogy is basically Christian with a Buddhist overlay, he's never punished for using his emotions like Anakin was, and the final duel with Darth Vader in Return of the Jedi is basically him finding a middle way between the Sith extreme of passion and self-intrest and the Jedi extreme of emotions being extinguished and using the Force's will, and appealed to Darth Vader's emotional and paternal ties to him to destroy Palpatine. Ironically, it's a physical version of what the Church Fathers did in their writings, finding a way to use both the ritualism and worldliness of Hebrew and Pagan religion and the archetypical headiness of Greek Philosophy to explain the New Testament revelation and create a concrete worldview. God is neither an impersonal force or a mere genie to pray to get what you want, the Trinity tells us that God is omnipresent yet deeply personal, interested not in mere conjecture or worship, but a paternal relationship and understanding of Christ's Humanity and Divinity. The Christian message is unlike any other religion when you get down to it, and is of course based in real/continuing history, but Jesus' revelation of himself and his Sacrifice and Resurrection is the closest to "the force"/fate being balanced that you can get. Sin stained the world, but instead of running from it or embracing it, Christ robbed it of it's power.
If think that Redeemed Zoomer equate Jesus with Darth Vader, please watch the video until the end. Redeemed Zoomer talk about liberal theologians. Those liberal theologians learn from Prebysterian, but those liberal theologians are the one who destroy Christianity.
Will you be contrasting with other forms of Buddhism? This video seems to only touch on Theravada Buddhism, which gave a lot of inspiration to the Jedi, but other schools of Buddhism under the Mahayana and Tantric umbrellas are vastly different in comparison.
_____________________________________________________________________________________ The Jedi Code There is no emotion, there is peace. There is no ignorance, there is knowledge. There is no passion, there is serenity. There is no chaos, there is harmony. There is no death, there is the Force. _____________________________________________________________________________________ The Sith Code Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. _____________________________________________________________________________________ The Christian Code Faith is my shield; doubt shall not waver me. Hope is my sword; despair shall not conquer me. Charity is my armor; hatred shall not pierce me. Through humility, I find strength. Through obedience, I find purpose. Through sacrifice, I find redemption. In service to God, I am free. _____________________________________________________________________________________
11:11 lets also keep in mind Jesus said in Mark 9:40-, " for whoever is not against us is for us" regarding those not of the apostles doing miracles in Jesus' name
Iirc there is contention regarding whether or not "balance" means equal light and dark, or just triumph of the light side; the force does seem to have a will of some kind according to some of the characters at least
Looking forward to the RZ video: "Guys, I have realized that I am not a qualified Star Wars analyst. I never set out to become one. I have a lot to learn. I will be henceforth sharing and promoting more learned and professional Star Wars nerds who I enjoy learning from."
The Jedi were ultimately wrong in teaching Anakin not to have attachments. Luke redeems the galaxy and his father through the power of love and attachment.
No they weren’t, you falsely presume “attachments” means loving relationships. Jedi aren’t to marry generally as a discipline similarly to Roman Catholicism’s practice on the issue.
@@justchilling704 The reason the Jedi forbid attachments was because they could lead to the fear of loss, and fear is the path to the Dark Side. But the films go out of their way to show that love transcends that in mysterious ways. The love that Anakin has for his mother is the very thing that inspires his love of justice. The love that Anakin and Obi-Wan have for each other is the very thing that makes them the greatest team in the galaxy. The love that Anakin and Padme have is the very thing that creates a new hope. The love that Leia and Han have inspires them to be braver and nobler people. And the love that Anakin and Luke have for each other is what ultimately brings balance to the Force. Anakin's fear of losing what he loves is ironically what destroys what he loves, driving him to the Dark Side, and only when he loves his son more than he fears losing him does he return to the Light. Vader and Luke could have ruled the galaxy together as father and son, but Vader loved his son too much to allow him to fall to the Dark Side like he had, so he sacrifices his own life, losing his son to save his son, even as his son saves him. It's beautiful.
On the flip side, Palpatine is motivated by fear. His fear of death is what drives him in the Dark Side. He is so attatched to his own life that he becomes incapable of love. Palpatine wasn't motivated by a love of life, but by a fear of death, born of selfish attatchment to life, the very sort of attachment that the Jedi Council had warned against since the beginning.
The mistake of the Jedi was conflating attachments with loving relationships. The Jedi Order was wrong and loving relationships are good, actually.
@@AJX-2 well realistic about this here is a thought please read it Exodus
7 Jehovah then said to Moses: “See, I have made you like God* to Pharʹaoh, and Aaron your own brother will become your prophet.+ 2
@ No they forbid selfish forms of attachments like possessiveness, Jedi cared about life and loved deeply, even Anakin said this himself in Episode II.
Maybe that's an indication that Star Wars, in the end, undermines the philosophy (Eastern Mystic Traditions) it was a tool for, and illustrates that any vehicle of truth ultimately ends up affirming the Gospel that Christ is Lord and Savior.
"Heres why the Holy Galactic Empire was neither holy, nor galactic, nor an empire."
@@Thomas-oc2ln Exodus
8 Then Jehovah said to Moses: “Go in to Pharʹaoh and say to him, ‘This is what Jehovah says: “Send my people away so that they may serve me.+ 2
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My favorite Star Wars droid is FUNN-E
Cosmic Voltaire
@@olekcholewa8171 darth voltairius, mayhaps?
meh the Sith=Christians sounds like a stretch to me as the core tenant of the Dark Side is using your own will and passions to override the will of the Force, which sounds much more like Thelemic/New Age magic than Christianity
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Isn't that what all their worshipping a sugar daddy is about? "Many will come to me saying, "Lord, Lord..."
So two sides of the same thing, Jedis are classical gnostics and Sith are New Age gnostics
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Reminds me of Talmudic Judaism
From what I understand, George Lucas has gone on record saying the force and the Jedi are a combination of Buddhism and Christianity.
George Lucas describes himself as a "Buddhist Methodist", and the Star Wars saga itself is the truest expression what exactly that means.
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@@spinlok3943 If you have a Bible please study it again ? Exodus
15 At that time Moses and the Israelites sang this song to Jehovah:+
“Let me sing to Jehovah, for he has become highly exalted.+
The horse and its rider he has hurled into the sea.+
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George isn't necessairly against religion or Christianity and see they are important.
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What?
This title seems how an Atheist Reddit channel video would look like ☠️
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This guy speaks the language because he was once an Atheist and once he became Christian, the people around him during his formative years were still atheist.
I saw a funny atheist comment about a Redeemed Zoomer video which said: "When a reddit atheist converts to Christianity:"
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@@dattebayano people from all sorts of backgrounds have the opportunity to study the Bible.Exodus
9 So Jehovah said to Moses: “Go in to Pharʹaoh and say to him, ‘This is what Jehovah the God of the Hebrews has said: “Send my people away so that they may serve me.+ 2
Yeah, I was going to say that that part of the Jedi had vibes of Gnosticism...
But the Sith do not teach a Christian message.
You don't have to accept the dychotomy.
5:35 Yeah, exactly. The Sith direct those towards themselves.
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@@Chiyenworkout Could you stop?
I think Masscreationbroadcasts gets it.
@MarkStein-t7d dear... He mentions Gnosticism about a quarter into the video... Maybe a sixth. Also, I made a follow up reply at around the 60% in mark.
Also, he presented 2 philosophies with no alternatives. That's necessarily a dichotomy.
Dychotomy?!?! *sweating Anakin Skywalker*
Star Wars ultimately says that love is good and that wanting to make the world better is good. The Emperor wasn't destroyed by Luke and his friends detatching from the galaxy, but by getting actively involved in it, making friends, falling in love, and fighting for what was right. The whole reason the Jedi Order fell in the first place was because they had lost sight of that truth because of their pride, having gone too far in the detatchment direction and forgetting why the Force chose them in the first place.
This can be used for a second part of this video, it has some paralelisms with the story of Israel and the Church
@@AJX-2 okay so ?Exodus
16 After they departed from Eʹlim, the entire assembly of the Israelites eventually came to the wilderness of Sin,+ which is between Eʹlim and Siʹnai, on the 15th day of the second month after their departure from the land of Egypt.
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Did the Jedi really fall because they neglected to have attachments? As far as I can tell, it was their attachment to the Republic that allowed Palpatine to manipulate them into the Clone Wars so easily. Had they followed the will of the force instead of the will of the bureaucrats, they would have been in a better position.
Also, Anakin, by his blinding attachment to his wife, turned to the dark side. It was not a lack of attachments. To be clear, he didn't fall because of love. His attachment to Padme was not a trusting love, and not a selfless love, shown in how he chokes her out when she showed the slightest hint of betrayal.
When Luke redeems Anakin, he does do so by attachment, but it matters what kind of attachment. Jedi are encouraged to love, as Anakin says to Padme in episode II, but it is not to be the selfish obsession Anakin has for Padme, rather the bold and trusting love Luke displayed when he proclaimed himself a Jedi.
@jasonsomers8224 there are no Jedi no sith it's fictional
@@jasonsomers8224In episode 3, when Anakin goes to Yoda about he fear of loss of Padame, Yoda basically says “learn to detach, people die, get over it” and that is clearly a Buddist-ish teaching. A Christ focused teaching would be to tell Anakin that his fears and visions of loss are from the enemy, trying to pull him away from connection to God, and that he must put his faith in trust in God, keep the sacraments, confess your sins, and pray for her, but know that YOU cannot change any come by your own power, only God can. The love and care the Jedi teach is more like new-age love than Christian love, which is no correct. Love isn’t some disembodied force, it is God.
The movies intentionally show the weekness of the Jedi philosophy. The Jedi caused in part the fall of anakin. From the point of view of the movies, goodness and jedism are close but not identical.
The sith though are all about personal power, not humility or submission. Jesus laid down his life for us, and we are supposed to do that for each other, that's as antisith as it gets.
In addition, the Sith manipulate through lies; they play the devil’s tricks throughout the entire saga. It is why Lucas described Palpatine as being a Satanic figure; he gains power through lies and manipulation, by playing good intended people like pawns in a game of chess.
The Sith - as a whole - built themselves off of the nature of fallen man; inherently selfish, self-entitled, and self-gratifying.
Sidious tricked Anakin. If Anakin obeyed the Jedi rule of attachments then he wouldn't have been tricked so easily. For the Jedi it's a different power, like when Obi Wan dies or disappears in A new hope. It's not the same as the power and control of people that the Sith do. And let's face it, there are many Christian desert fathers who were and are ascetics and celibate.
While I would comfortably say that the prequel Jedi's "no family" practices and some of their other beliefs are wrong, the Jedi did not cause the fall of Anakin at all; Anakin's fall was a result of his own bad decisions and manipulation by Palpatine. I don't get why people always blame the Jedi Order for Anakin's fall to the dark side and the fall of the Republic. They were betrayed from within, any organization could get torn apart by that.
@, it comes down to the Jedi not providing him any proper advice and not giving him some form of exception to the rule.
After all, it was their initial doubt that began to sew the seeds in Anakin that would become his lack of faith in the Jedi, which would only be affirmed further by the advice given to him by Yoda and Mace Windu’s actions when confronting Palpatine (an act he interpreted as against the ways of the Jedi, which Windu - himself - constantly reinforced upon Anakin while seemingly never following himself).
By that description, honestly sounds closer to Phariseeism vs Paganism where both are wrong
We shall spread the galactic empire in the name of our lord Jesus Christ amen...
for the god emperor of man kind. Jesus is god and king, emperor is simply a more powerful that rule a larger realm than a king, so Jesus is emperor and god is true.
In conclusion for the god emperor of mankind
Wrong sci-fi franchise.
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Star wars was made by an american who loves buddhist philosophy so it incorporates aspects of both.
But seeing how american culture is rooted in christianity the message that George Lucas ultimately delivers is christian, not buddhist, whether he did it intentionally or not. You must understand the subtlety to see what he was really saying in the movies. Also the extended universe goes a lot more in depth into the ideas if you're interested.
I think it is less about understanding the subtlety and more about your personal interpretation on it. Lucas made a Buddhist-inspired work with an audience raised on Christian morals (whether they realize it or not). That does not change the message that he portrayed through his work
Timothy Zahn is a Christian, and debatable quite a bit of the lore in the movies comes from his books.
@@emerald10005it wasn't any one thing. He's made it pretty clear that he wasn't trying to make any theological statement. Star Wars is a blend of inspiration, primarily Buddhism and Christianity (and Judaism just a bit). His message is ultimately Christian, though. He didn't really make it with the purpose of it being a "Christian message," but I doubt he would be opposed to people identifying with it that way because it's something that he greatly admires about Christianity. The ultimate message of his story is about the redemptive power of love and self sacrifice.
@@viperstriker4728zahn is awesome. I didn't know he was a Christian, but that's really cool.
@@Tyler_W Yeah, I noticed it when reading visions of the future when Mara and Luke were talking. So I googled it and found he was the co-writer on devotional book. I haven't read it so couldn't tell you what flavor of Christian.
If you haven't already, highly recommend his Icarus book series.
Boomer evangelical: Star Wars promotes a Bhuddist ideology
"Shut up, I dont believe in that nonsense"
RZ: Star Wars promotes a Bhuddist ideology
"Sooooo true!"
Nobody is buying that
Lucas who is a boomer says himself that the jedi are loosely based on Buddhists and Christians
Fortunately barely anyone in the comment section went "soo true" hahaha
@@elijahknox4421 yeah a mix of various faiths and ideologies he admires and was inspired by. He was never trying to make some sort of theological statement, and he makes this pretty clear.
Tell me your pro dark-side without telling me your pro dark-side!!
If think that Redeemed Zoomer equate Jesus with Darth Vader, please watch the video until the end. Redeemed Zoomer talk about liberal theologians. Those liberal theologians learn from Prebysterian, but those liberal theologians are the one who destroy Christianity.
Romans 13:1-2 "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation."
The rebels are therefore violating God's law
@@zr3755 But even still The Force used them to bring about its will and fulfill the Prophecy to restore balance ("balance" here means good, and "imbalance" means evil, according to Lucas), just as God uses the deeds of evil and rebellious men to fulfill his will.
Title is crazy💀 was in shock when I read it
Same. Especially the Sith part.
I wasn't surprised cuz he already said so in the server lol it was a surprise then tho
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The philosophy of the Sith is all about self-actualization, at the expense of everyone and everything else around you. I don't really see the parallels between that and Christianity. Furthermore, just because George Lucas was clearly inspired by Eastern Religion and spiritualism, that doesn't mean he was trying to create an anti-Christian message.
Imo opinion sith are basically egoists(read max stirner)
I haven't
He was also greatly inspired by Christianity, not just Buddhism. His story was never intended to be an allegory like that. He took general ideas from different sources to make a broader, universal point. The message, ultimately, is a very Christian one. The long arc is about the redemptive power of love and self sacrifice.
I don’t think the Sith actually achieve self actualization. To achieve self actualization you need to satisfy the other aspects of the hierarchy of needs: esteem, love and belonging, safety, physiological needs.
The core of Sith philosophy is greed, selfishness. Those who embrace the Dark Side are miserable because they live in fear of losing things, people, power, etc. they justify doing whatever it takes to to get more power to protect the power they have or to take it from those who have power (why the apprentice tries to betray the master, or the master tries to replace the apprentice). The Sith don’t experience love or belonging because they are afraid of losing what they have. They pursue pleasure (short term happiness) but experience no joy.
In contrast the Jedi are the embodiment of selflessness. They give of their whole selves for the benefit of others. They have compassion for everyone. They can have friendships, but when those friends leave or die, they are sad but move on. They have nothing to lose and everything to gain. They give up a life of joy (long term happiness) and fulfillment. I would argue the Jedi are more self actualized than the Sith. The Jedi reach their full potential. The Sith are selfish, lonely, and are full of fear and hate.
Sith do not fear lose. The reason they do not have loving relationships and friends ect is because they know these attachments ultimately lead to weakness; loved ones can hold you back, can be used to exploit you ect. The same goes for compassion - it hinders you from doing what is necessary. Also, Sith do not pursue pleasure. They pursue power, self-mastery, self-transformation and excellence. The Sith apprentice seeks to kill their master when that master is no longer necessary. This keeps the order strong because each apprentice surpasses each master ( proving themselves stronger by killing them), ensuring with each succession the order evolves.
Hard disagree. The jedi council is literally like the pharasees, who ignore the prophecized chosen one (messiah), Anakin dies in Star Wars and later on returns from the death, triumphing over evil and overcoming his evil, to redeem the force. Also the sith literally are all about passions and giving into your feelings and vices. Cant realy get more christian in a sci fi movie, can it?
Star Wars isn't sci fi, it's more Space Fantasy
@@BahamutZero09 it's kinda both.
Agreed
Completely agree.
Yeah. I always say that the Jedi's hubris and flaws do not make them the same, certainly not worse, than the kraterocratic Sith.
These comparisons are off.
The Jedi actively try to fight evil in all three trilogies. They try to kill Palpatine in all 3.
The Sith are extremely self-interested and driven by greed and/or rage.
Kind of like the Pharisees who thought Jesus was evil and killed him.
@@PhonySopran0 Nothing Palpatine says sounds remotely like Jesus. The famous opera scene alone clearly outlines the Sith worldview as basically being Nietzschean.
But the Jedi Knights enforced peace and order in the Galaxy, not separating themselves from it.
This also clouded their vision over time, too. Their attachment to the Republic became their downfall. The Je'dii, the older version of the jedi, actually preached the exact point.
Peace and serenity is a pig farm on slaughter day
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That's because the Jedi compromised their philosophy to become politically involved with the Republic. It's like pastors preaching LGBT stuff in the name of diversity despite the bible explicitly forbiding it
“Are you sad about not having a girlfriend? Well then stop wanting a girlfriend and you won’t be sad about not having a girlfriend!” -RZ,2024
Does it work? Of course it does.
The core Sith ideology completely contradicts just the beatitudes alone.
“Blessed are the peacekeepers” - Jesus
“Peace is a lie, there is only passion” - Sith code
“Blessed are the merciful” - Jesus
“Compete or die, mercy is irrelevant” - Uthar Wynn, Sith Academy master
The Sith are just cliche bad guys that people make excuses for to justify their craving for power at the expense of others, no different than many ideologies of the past and present world. They were such savages to even themselves that Bane had to basically limit their numbers to only two at a time, otherwise they’d all just kill each other. The Sith live by the sword and they all die by the sword, all advanced Sith knew this
If there was ever a Star Wars equivalent to the goofy title of the “Antichrist”, it would be Palpatine. He told Vader that when the Sith will rule the galaxy, then “we shall have peace”, but the Sith code literally says peace is a lie. The Jedi Council are like the Pharisees and useless shepherds, but the Sith are way worse
Also, Paul in Colossians 3 tells us to put away passion.
The Jedi were the ones who were able to retain their individuality after death, becoming one with the Force while still being their own person, freed from the clutches and temptations of the Dark Side. This parallels Christian theosis much more than Buddhist nirvana.
Sith can possess items, turn into ghosts, and all sorts of stuff. Legends material covers this extensively.
@@_John_Smith_ Star Wars is a six-film epic saga made by George Lucas that has spawned many beloved spin-offs, such as Legends material.
@@AJX-2 Lucas gave his blessing for many EU works, so they were basically canon until Disney decanonized the whole EU.
@@AmericanImperium2112 That was a very nice thing for him to do. A lot of EU stories are quite good!
@@AJX-2 Agreed. Darth Bane is quite good.
Cheating death by rebelling against the will of the Force is indeed what the Sith do. But actually triumphing over death and gaining eternal life is something only the Jedi can do.
Righteous Anger is antithetical to the Light side of the Force
@johnrockwell5834 How is that so, when Luke's "lightning ability" in Legends? I think, is called "force judgement"? Clearly there is a "righteous anger" component to Jedi, that was also what the "Jedi Sentinels" were about. Anyways, Star Wars is very dumb
You clearly understand Christianity a lot better than you understand Star Wars
What did he get wrong? Not here for an argument, I want to hear your side out
The issue is more that star wars lore is an inconsistent and haphazard mess. Star wars fans will be like "Nuh uh because Jason Solo Grey Jedi!!" like there's not 30 books contradicting whichever one you're cherry picking as your example to support your point. Star wars doesn't understand star wars.
my thoughts exactly @@Hillykarma
@@HillykarmaReject Star Wars, embrace Christianity.
Like the paradox of “only a sith deals in absolutes” that’s an absolute lmao
It's fair to say the Jedi mindset is more in line with Buddhism than Christianity, but to say Jesus is closer to a Sith is unfair.
The Star Wars prequels attempted to show, not just the faults with the Sith, but the Jedi as well. George wanted to portray the Jedi as people who were too pious they ignored the real problems of society: sort of like religious hypocrits. The mindset of forsaking all attachments is criticized in the narrative as what pushed Anakin to the darkside, because if the Jedi didn't care about his mother or his wife, maybe the Sith would? But in truth, the Sith did not care, they only pretended to care.
In the Sith mindset, you do not have the humility or willfull sacrifice emphasized by Christianity, and their method of "cheating death" was only really tried by Darth Plaugus. Darth Plaugus, relatively speaking, was a much more compassionate Sith than the ones we see in the films. Palpatine only really used the story as leverage to bait Anakin into being his servant, he didn't really care about "cheating death" until Disney did their Disney shenanigans. And, in addition to the inherent political commentary of the prequels, Anakin's line of "If you're not with me, then you're my enemy" feels more lifted from George Bush speeches than any Bible verse.
It feels like you just heard the tragedy of Darth Plaugus the wise, and took all your knowledge of the Sith from that.
There are elements of the Jedi that could be seen as Christian adjacent as well, such as surrendering to the will of the force and self control.
There are elements of the Sith that could be seen as Anti-Christian, such as fully giving into emotions of anger and desire, and letting them fuel you. The Sith kill people.
"Love thy enemy" is more in line with Obi-Wan's "You were my brother Anakin!" than Anakin's "I hatech'you!"
It portrays politicians and religious leaders in a very grey sense, where there is some inherent good in them that can be blinded by hypocracy. Neither Sith nor Jedi are 100% comparable to Christianity, even if some elements of "the force" in general were borrowed from all sorts of religions. The Originals were much more standard goodie v.s. badie stuff, whereas the prequels were much more politically complex.
How does he even come up with this😂 hats off
The worst thing is that Anakin is inspired by jesus in certain degree, and also the force is sentient is a God after all Anakin's mother was pregnant by the force, just like Mary.
hats off? I genuinely consider it blasphemous that he compared Jesus, who's known for being selfless, to the sith, who's whole philosphy is rooted in selfishness. He's cherrypicking to be controversial
@@elijahknox4421 yes it's very strange and dumb and manny other things to say the least
Please do the Christian influences of LOTR and Narnia!
YES
Yes. @@alfieingrouille1528
He's briefly talked about it before, but not in a full video. I hope he does a full video on it
Wait, Narnia has Christian influences?
@ Yep;)
For example, Aslan the lion is a representation of Jesus. I mean, he sacrificed himself and resurrected.
Stop it.
"Luminous beams are we, not this crude matter!" - Yoda defending gnosticism??
@redeemedzoomer6053 Yoda was obviously just testing Luke. The scene cuts out before he lectures Luke on the Communicatio Idiomatum.
@@DrJordanBCooper alright so when Yoda said not to turn to the dark side, he OBVIOUSLY was warning not to accept the Extra Calvinisticum
Mhmmm who do I side with?
@@redeemedzoomer6053Sith have actively abused their apprentices but sure Christians are like Sith
"only a sith deals in absolutes"
Based
Truth nuke
Which was used in a very specific context. It was in response to Vader telling him that if he wasn't his friend, then he was his enemy.
@@Tyler_W Double Based Christ Take
@@Chudsmash777>Dealing is absolutes
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Bro represented so many Christian denominations correctly but misrepresented star wars lore
Saying Jesus is like a sith is so sacrilegious it’s crazy
He is a right wing christian having a Freudian slip
@@Finn-343 you just had a freudian slip
For many reactionary so-called Christians, Jesus is simply Nietzsche wearing his skin.
I don’t think saying Jesus is like a Sith is supposed to be taken particularly seriously. It’s just meant to demonstrate that the Jedi and the philosophy of Star Wars is sort of inverted and contrary to Christianity.
@@joshuabarnard5702 But the story of Star Wars is literally about a Chosen One figure who faced consternation from the religious authorities of his day but winds up fulfilling his destiny by destroying the silver-tongued dark lord perpetuating the great state of spiritual evil consuming the galaxy. The only real caveat might be this character himself getting corrupted for a long while before returning to the light is a difference but even that opens the door to solid lessons about family and redemption.
Here's why Christians≠Sith. The ideology of the Sith is against love, against all good and beautiful things. Darth Malgus, for example, killed his lover. Palpatine wanted Padmé to die. Anakin's love for her children brought him back from the Dark Side. The Sith encourage revelling in one's passions, encouraging lust, anger, fear, and hate. The Jedi are unlike Christians in many ways, and they fell because they were unable to recognize the danger, unable to change their ways, too entrenched in the politics of the Republic, unable to view loving someone in anyway but a path to the darkside. As Christians, many ideals of the Jedi are ones we can agree with. Not letting your emotions control, seeking peace and defending the innocent. We want to be like Qui gon, or Luke. Recognizing our emotions as good, following the will of God, not treating others with scorn or contempt. Luke gets married and has a kid btw. 😊
And much of the ways in which the wrongs of the Jedi are corrected are much more in line with Christian ideas. The Force and all of that business was never intended to be a one to one for anything in particular. Lucas made himself pretty clear about his creative intent in this regard, though if anything, the overarching story is fundamentally Christian because the goal of the story was to illustrate the redemptive power of love and self sacrifice.
This is literally the whole point of Star Wars. The Jedi keep losing to the Sith because they’re so detached that they can’t understand why anyone, like Anakin, would become a Sith. Yoda and Obi-Wan tell Luke he needs to kill Vader because they have no understanding of why Anakin is evil. Luke was the first Jedi in centuries to realize that compassion, redemption, and understanding are necessary parts of doing good and combatting evil. If the Jedi had done that, Anakin wouldn’t have turned. The last film is called “Return of the Jedi” not because the literal Jedi are coming back, but what the Jedi were meant to stand for is coming back in Luke, at least until Disney craps all over it. I don’t see how you can watch Star Wars and come away from it thinking the Jedi’s philosophy is supposed to be emulated. Every Star Wars fan knows this.
Even Rian Johnson understands this lol
@@Tyler_W Let's not go too far 😂
100% agree. Luke is more like Martin Luther than Siddhartha
Not really. George Lucas himself said that he used multiple religious influences while constructing the ideology of Star Wars, not just Buddhism. Specifically, he said the influences were Buddhism, Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. And I feel like you can see the Christian influence in Star Wars pretty clearly. I mean the “light side vs dark side” stuff could easily be seen as “faithful vs unfaithful.” The nature of the Jedi’s discipline and depriving themselves of worldly selfish pleasures, while selflessly and heroically serving the world around them is very Christian. Not to mention if you’re a good enough Jedi, and have enough faith in “the force,” you can learn to become a force ghost after death and live to chill for all eternity as yourself. Saying that Star Wars is *only* Buddhism and not a general mishmash of New Age spiritualism, and that Jesus Christ would be a Sith, is hilariously a stretch. Especially considering that if you break it all down, the fundamental difference between the two sides is that the dark side is self-interested and the light side is selfless. Saying Jesus would be on the dark side just because he’s against death or whatever is too specific a critique and doesn’t really cut it for me.
I think it’s most clear when you realize the Dark Side is the corruption of the galaxy and the things within it.
Jesus is Lord - glory to his Empire!
If think that Redeemed Zoomer equate Jesus with Darth Vader, please watch the video until the end. Redeemed Zoomer talk about liberal theologians. Those liberal theologians learn from Prebysterian, but those liberal theologians are the one who destroy Christianity.
@Chiyenworkout Do you not agree that Jesus is Lord? Do you not agree that Jesus is the Emperor of Emperors?
@@jamesbaxter5147 I am not agree to referJesus as dark emperor. Empire in star wars franchise have a bad connotation.
@@Chiyenworkout I did not call him a Dark Emperor - you did. I did not equate Jesus with Darth Vader - you did.
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Zoomer a sith would never sacrifice themselves for the sake of those weaker than them. That's a jedi thing.
Some of the time.
*himself, not nonbinary/plural themselves b/c your subject is singular
A proper sacrifice does not require anything from those meant to benefit from it. Moreover, Jesus (allegedly) didn't actually die; he didn't stay dead. So there's that.
Exactly. A Sith would argue that if he isn't strong enough to survive by his own might, wits, and will, then that person doesn't deserve to live.
@@audreyc3398actually a singular they would be appropriate here because it's talking about a person of unknown gender, as siths could be male or female. Now if the sith identified as non-binary that woukd be a very different story
Yeah... no.
1. The Jedi believe that "balance" is good overcoming evil.
2. They only discourage selfish attachments.
2. They also encourage compassion (agape) and familial love between each other.
3. The Force is more or less a deity with its own divine will.
4. The Jedi subject themselves fully to the will of the Force, essentially to be insturments.
5. The Jedi do believe in an afterlife. It's a kind of theosis where they become perfectly united with the Force.
6. The Jedi are active in galaxy as peacekeepers working with the authorities.
It's seeming good, but you can't compare fiction and non-fiction.
"Yeah no..."
*Still lists anti Christian things*
Hilarious
I agree with you!!!
This is awesome! I love your videos zoomer, thank you for being a stepping stone for me coming to the true Christianity. I grew up one of Jehovah’s witnesses and left as a teenager, but watching your explanations along with others and just reading the Bible for myself, I have begun to understand the truth, I even found a wonderful Presbyterian church near me I attended for a long time. I have since found my home in the Catholic Church but I absolutely love my Protestant and orthodox brothers and sisters. God bless you and your work, it’s helped a lot of people, God is working through you and through you God has brought many folks home!
Congratulations on leaving Jehovah's Witnesses! May Jesus, Jehovah in the flesh, bless you!
@ Thank you my friend, Glory to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit!🙏🏼
One thing to keep in mind, the Jedi in the prequel trilogy were making a lot of mistakes and being very legalistic in thinking. Therefore, Yoda‘s advice to simply accept death was supposed to be bad advice.
Death gets thrown down into the pit of fire. Anakin gets thrown into lava. Palpatine gets thrown down the Death Star and explodes. It's like poetry... it rhymes.
Kind of. You see, sith don't really want people to give into all their feelings. They just want to give into their feelings like anger, hate, and fear. If someone gives into feelings of great joy or love the sith don't actually like that either.
"The reason Anakin Skywalker turned to the dark side is because the Jedi taught him that he was not allowed to love anyone"
~ RedeemedZoomer (you're not wrong)
"I killed them. I killed them all. And not just the men, but the women and the children, too. They're like animals, and I slaughtered them like animals. I hate them!"
~ Anakin Skywalker
The tragedy of Anakin was that he had an enormous potential but that was undermined by his traumas, emotionality and bad luck: he was too young to understand certain dynamics but too old to be properly nurtured by the Order; he needed Qui-Gonn but got Obi-Wan; he was destined to greatness but also misguided by his impatience, impulsivity and need of possession. Cherry on top, the only man he came to trust was Palpatine who mischievously and strategically gave him favours.
Anakin wasn't a Christ-like figure but a Wagnerian one.
Yeah, I do not think the Bible preaches cutting a bunch of people in a fit of hate and channeling evil magic while doing it.
From my perspective, neither the light nor the dark side is inherently good. The light side often reflects teachings similar to Buddhism, which can contrast with Christian values, while the dark side resembles the Pharisees, twisting God’s word for personal gain. The best path is to be a Grey Jedi or simply a Force user-non-denominational in approach-honoring God and using the gift of the Force, which parallels the Holy Spirit.
Glory to God. Praise be to our Lord. God bless.
There is a Polish politician who said Yoda was a Jew
Yoda was played by Frank Oz, a member of the tribe
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I am a Buddhist viewer of your channel as I find other religious views interesting and am also open to learning about those traditions. For some background, I was raised Catholic and have more recently explored Quakerism and have wanted to learn about Christianity more generally again. I agree with how you explain Buddhism for the most part but wanted to add, though it may be a minor detail, that what is seen as evil in Buddhism *is* still sought to be transformed through inner and outer work (meditation and intentional acts) rather than something to ignore. Mindfulness doesn't teach us to ignore, but to look at suffering and evil, and examine its roots to transform it (which is believed to be rooted in worldly and mental delusions). I agree there is a difference in that it is inherently non-dualistic and does not place salvation in the hands of an external being such as God or Jesus, but it is not inactive and there is spiritual training that is done (like the Jedis), however misguided others may believe those efforts to be.
I also agree there is a divide in how the material world is seen between the two religions and I admit I don't know enough about the Christian view to examine the two. These topics are the ones I find most interesting. Are there any resources you'd recommend or videos on your channel on Christian eschatology and beliefs on eternalism/dualism/monism? Other commenters welcome as long as the comments remain a respectful space. I have nothing bad to say about Christianity as a whole and this video was very interesting!
Dr. Michael Heiser & Sam Storms. Have fun. 😊
This is insightful.
I think this insight actually makes the Jedi more Buddhist, since the Jedi do that as well. They are "guardians of the peace"
I think this insight actually makes the Jedi more Buddhist, since the Jedi do that as well. They are "guardians of the peace"
So Sith does not fit with the view of Christianity otherwise many people would have ended.
Long explanation of the differences of The Sith and Christianity (Specifically what Jesus taught)
The Sith do against what Jesus taught. The Sith seek to gain power over others and shape events according to their desires, often leading to a cycle of conflict and domination. Their way of achieving goals is often ruthless and self-serving, valuing strength above all else. In contrast, Jesus teaches humility and emphasizes that true greatness comes from serving others rather than seeking personal power. He advocates for loving one’s enemies and blessing those who persecute you (Matthew 5:44), promoting a radical form of love and selflessness that stands in stark opposition to the Sith's motivations. The Sith embrace conflict as a necessary means for growth and empowerment, reflecting a survival-of-the-fittest mindset. They see conflict not only as inevitable but also as a method to assert dominance and legitimacy, often advocating for vengeance and retaliation to achieve their ends. Jesus, on the other hand, preaches love, forgiveness, and reconciliation. He encourages followers to avoid vengeance and instead turn the other cheek when wronged (Matthew 5:39). His approach focuses on healing and reconciliation rather than conflict, underscoring forgiveness as a pathway to true reconciliation with oneself and others. The Sith are characterized by their self-centeredness and willful pursuit of personal desires They believe that pursuing individual ambition and desires is paramount, and they frequently exploit others to gain the upper hand. Their emotional manipulation is often directed towards achieving personal legacies at the expense of others' well-being. In stark contrast, Jesus emphasizes the importance of considering others before oneself, urging individuals to care for the marginalized and oppressed. His teachings promote altruism and the idea of community support, reflecting a selfless approach to life. He also made it clear that someone’s desires are not of good or holy but of Evil and that they should repent and deny themselves.
I am open to answer your questions on Christianity.
Obi Wan: Only a sith deals in absolutes
Yoda: Do or do not, there is no try
LOL
11:37 George Lucas gave Anakin a Virgin Birth in episode 1 then he almost quotes Jesus in this scene ☹️there is an agenda
He actually did it. Praise be to God!! XD
I can''t get over how Reddit this is
I think you make a good case on some points, but I will reinstate once again that the Jedi Order is heavily criticised in the movies, especially in the prequels. Things such as not making attachments are shown to lead to big problems, as you mention. The fact the Jedi Order ignored the bad things about the universe is what allowed the republic to be infiltrated by Sidious.
Anakin was right that Obi-Wan was his enemy, Obi-Wan was delusional. It's clear that Obi-Wan (falsely) believed that Anakin was beyond redemption. That's why he snuck on the ship in the first place, he was there to kill Anakin. And for that reason, Anakin went mental when he saw Obi-Wan instead of listening to Padme. Obi-Wan was wrong, Luke and Padme were right. Star Wars does not endorse Jedi Order doctrine on this point.
Sidious was straight-up lying about Darth Plagueris. Darth Plagueris saved no-one, hence why we never hear of it again as soon as Vader becomes Sith. We know from the old expanded universe (and probably the new expanded universe by now, they've been moving stuff over) Plagueris was actually about making himself immortal and didn't care about anyone else, the issue was that immortal meant 'doesn't age', not 'immune to being strangled'.
Luke is shown as the model for what the Jedi should actually be like. He has friendships, is very passionate about things, wept over people dying, doesn't ignore the bad things, and is willing to fight when necessary.
George Lucas included Anakin's statement "You're either with me or you're my enemy" as a slight against the President at the time, George W. Bush. Bush had stated "You're either with us or you're with the terrorists" partially to echo Christ's declaration. George Lucas didn't really know that connection, but yes, indirectly, you get Darth Vader spewing out a sort of echo of something Jesus said.
I doubt George did not know, he's heavily into comparative religion
The scene in the empire strikes back where Yoda tells Luke to lift his x-wing but it starts to sink and Yoda does it for him is pretty similar to when Peter tried walking on water but started sinking in my opinion.
Yoda uses witchcraft to do that. That’s what “the force” is - witchcraft and sorcery.
@@MichaelWilliams-eq4kt That doesn't mean that it isn't a similarity
@@MichaelWilliams-eq4kt No, Yoda does not use Dathomiri magic.
@@MichaelWilliams-eq4ktthat’s a nice claim sir, care to back it up with a source?
May the Lord be with you.
Godspeed.
The Jedi are *not* a representation of all that is true and right. The prequels are about how the Jedi Order became rigid and dogmatic, detached from reality and unable to see or prevent the coming evil. And this is the very reason they got wiped out. Their adherence to buddhist ideals was the reason they failed. If this is buddhist propaganda, this is the worst propaganda I've ever seen.
Also, when we talk about balance, a lot of people misunderstand it to mean an equal amount of good and evil. But that's not true at all. It's more like calmness in the force, as opposed to the turbulence caused by the sith. This is precisely why the Jedi talk about DESTROYING the sith and thus bringing balance to the force. If they meant an equal amount of good and evil, then destroying the sith would disrupt the balance in the force. But that's clearly not what they mean.
Anakin saying literal Jesus quotes is because he is the prophesized Chosen One, the messiah of the galaxy.
I don't think "then your my enemy" is meant to be a reference to Jesus. More likely given Lukas' political opinions this was more of a accept everyone and be friends way of thinking that lead to that quote. It's a very western thing to fail to understand what an enemy is. Ironically, I think it comes from Christianity but what happens to those who are raised on Christian morals but lose faith.
@@viperstriker4728if it was a reference to anytbing, it was a reference to George W. Bush. "You're either with us or the terrorists." Obi-wan saying "Only a Sith deals in absolutes" was not a general statement. It was a response to what Anakin previously said and was criticizing radical, polarized ways thinking in terms of friendship, loyalty and politics. If you were to draw direct parellels to the real life politics of the early-mid 00s, Lucas is saying "just because I don't think we should blow up the Middle East and wage endless forever wars does not mean that I support terrorists killing Americans."
@@Tyler_W I don't know Lucas' thought on the war on terror. But given his thoughts on Vietnam your probably right.
@@Tyler_WYou're probably correct, but the fact this is made so unclear in the films is yet another failing of the Prequels and their horrendous script
"Why Minecraft is secretly satanic and anti Christian" ahh title
Has he run out of topics 😂
The title is crazy, the last speech is crazy
Crazy video idea to be honest
Im writing this before I begin watching.
I specifically always thought that the Jedi were the embodiment of Christianity and the sith of Nihilism.
The Jedi believe in good and evil, and that all is according to the will of the Force. Kinda like Christianity.
The Sith believe that good and evil are subjective myths, and that the only thing that matters is strength and power. Kinda like nihilists.
Bro went from strawmanning denominations to strawmanning Jedis
No one is safe 😂
Cope and seethe fanboy. You have no argument against him
@@purplesamurai5373 There absolutely are arguments to be made against this thesis. This looks like just another example of the increasing trend for Evangelical types to take the side of the designated bad guys in nearly every piece of popular media just to prove how apart from and unsullied by the secular culture they are. And I don’t really see how knee-jerk contrarianism is any more freethinking. That is not to say there aren’t genuine cases, but perhaps even most of the time they seem decidedly not.
@johnweber4577 You still didn't give me any evidence! And I'm not even evangelical, so you're managed to be wrong on two counts
@@purplesamurai5373 Fair enough, which point do you want me to start with? Or should I be preparing one giant essay? Lol
Honestly, while being Christian i feel a Lot like a Jedi. Being compassionate to others, resisting my dark side(sin) and learn The ways of The lord everyday
Much like the force, my Lord has a Will, and obeying his will is the Path to light.
I love the spiritual aspects in Star Wars because I can still interpret parallels between it and the Biblical narrative. For example the Jedi counsel in the prequels parallel the Pharisees and the religious elite who rejected their own "messiah" due to misinterpretations/ignorance of prophecy. Obviously Jesus did not have a "dark side" arc but His death on the cross could be interpreted as such or just a representation of the "dark times". Of course then Jesus' resurrection is very clearly paralleled thorough Vader's redemption and legacy through Luke. It is important to note that to my knowledge the "balance" in Star Wars originally meant the eradication of the dark side, until it was later changed mostly through Dave Filoni's interpretation in my opinion. What Zoomer says in this video is generally true though, but it is also true that I have used Star Wars to explain the gospel to people before.
Kreia:
"To belive in an ideal, is to be willing to betray it. It is somthing no Sith or Jedi has ever truly learned."
"If you are to truly understand, than you will need the contrast, not adherence to a single idea."
Did you ever hear the miracle of Darth Jesus the Savior?
Its not a story the jedi would tell you.
"How do you do fellow kids"
Regardless of whether you're joking, star wars is definitely older than this guy.
Clearly you don't get the joke@trevormoney8126
Most kids today never even watched Star wars. (Good on them, the sequels are trash)
@@xxmodzhaxsxx7910It's better to have loved and lost than never loved at all... but Star Wars might be an exception.
RZ is getting better at comedy and I'm loving it.
"Star Wars is buddhist propaganda" you sound like Ned Flanders, man. This is like a caricature of a Christian 😂
9:50 one thing with the death of a Jedi is that they come back in spirit form. You don't see Sith come back like this. I don't know much about Darth Plagius but I thought this was a tale that Sidious told Anakin to confuse him into thinking that they could save Padme from death if Anakin would only join the darkside. And they never did revive Padme...
Not true. Balance in the world of Star Wars is the destruction of the sith, which occurs in return of the Jedi. The name is an obvious reference to “the return of Jesus”. Lucas is an open Christian who says palpatine is satan. He is sympathetic to Buddhism and you can see that in the movies, but you ignore the Christian elements. The Jedi are also supposed to be Christian monks. When palpatine says “good” is a point of view, hes directly mirroring satan in the garden.
If think that Redeemed Zoomer equate Jesus with Darth Vader, please watch the video until the end. Redeemed Zoomer talk about liberal theologians. Those liberal theologians learn from Prebysterian, but those liberal theologians are the one who destroy Christianity.
I have never heard Lucas say he is Christian. He speaks well of it, but doesn't seem to have faith himself. Though Timothy Zahn definitely is a Christian.
remember this is coming from a guy who has never watched star wars
Alternate titles:
"I don't know the first thing about star wars"
"I haven't heard of Qui Gon Jin"
"I commit blasphemy using star wars"
"I give the worst English accent ever spoken"
"I pronounce GIF wrong"
The original purpose of the jedi is to carry out the will of the force. The purpose of Christians is to carry out the will of God. The purpose of the sith is to do anything out of self interest. Palpatine is probably the closest fictional to being Satan I've ever seen, his cunning, his lies, his false promises, his selfishness, his pleasure in the suffering of others. You're grasping at the thread of the sith while ignoring the rope of the jedi.
What he say isn't blasphemy because he doesn't understand star wars. This actually makes some great points about Christianity if you shared his misunderstanding about the themes of star wars.
@@viperstriker4728 the sith philosophy is using everything for your own personal gain and selfishness, that is their most fundamental philosophy, then he compares Jesus to them
@@viperstriker4728and not really blasphemous but bad theology, he talks about how meditating on things is bad when it is frequently commanded in the Psalms
@@elijahknox4421 But ignore what you know about star wars and consider just what he said. He never talks about the sith selfishness.
And on meditation, he talks about how the "clear your mind" meditation is bad. Psalms says to meditate on, which is very different from zone out and see where you mind goes.
5:24 the fundamental sith philosophy is one of selfishness.
The fundamental jedi philosophy is carrying out the will of the force.
Which is more similar to Christianity?
The whole video is zoomer ignoring the fundamental philosophies of the jedi and the sith and nitpicking small details to argue his case while showing his lack of understanding of star wars
He also says himself that "the jedi are taught to meditate on the force alone". Christians are taught to meditate on God and His words
Luke demonstrates that self-sacrificial love is the only thing that can truly conquer evil. We love it!
You can tell he was just geeking out reading the last monologue 😂
Yeah, sorry, but I am not sure you fully understand Star Wars
Honestly, most Star Wars fans don't understand Star Wars.
Well to be fair, neither does most of the people creating star wars.
@@viperstriker4728Disney canon barely counts lol
This is the TYPE of content I want! Finding paralels between real world religions and fictional ones. Next do the Abbey of Everyman vs the Outsider! Please!
I'm an expert on Buddhism and the philosophy of the Jedi bares scant resemblance to Buddhism. I think you're egregiously misinformed about what Buddhists believe. Harmony and balance are not Buddhist ideals, they're more indicative of Chinese philosophies, particularly Taoism.
Right. Star Wars isn't even trying to pull from one philosophical and theological source. It has influences of Buddhism, Christianity, Taoism, and Judaism mostly, but it wasn't trying to make a theological statement. Lucas is very clear about his creative intent and why he used various spiritual traditions for inspiration the way he did. It certainly wasn't an endorsement of Buddhism or anti-Christian. The story is thematically pro-Christian if anything because it depicts this inter-generational family drama to illustrate the redemptive power of love and self sacrifice.
Ancient China blended Taosim and Buddhism though, so it makes sense that there's some confusion
It is worth throwing out there that a lot of people seem to mistaken the Yin-Yang principle for being the heart of Daoism when that’s not really the case. Important to be sure but borrowed from the School of Naturalists and integrated into a system focused on going with the flow of the Dao.
Attempt 2 at getting Zoomer to adress his anti-Reformed Baptist bias. He regularly pretends we have no church history, we don't exist, are just Baptists who believe in predestination, or is out right offended by our existence. It is offensive to be honest and I will post this under all of his videos until he addresses my points. I do this out of love not hate. It is important for all Christians to have mutual respect and understanding and I want my perspective as a Reformed Baptist understood.
Particular Baptists are Baptists who believe in particular redemption. Particular Baptists who more closely follow Reformed ideology and closely adhere to the 1689 Confession are called Reformed Baptists. These churches are often part of associations like the Association of Reformed Baptist Churches of America (ARBCA).
Particular Baptists were one of many groups of Puritans who broke from the Church of England and, in 1638, emerged as a distinct group of Baptists with Calvinist beliefs.
In 1644, seven Particular Baptist churches in London published the First London Baptist Confession.
Two years later, in 1646, the Westminster Confession of Faith (which had been started in 1643) was adopted by the Westminster Assembly.
The Particular Baptists then published the Second London Baptist Confession of 1689 (written in 1677), which aligned with the Westminster Confession but integrated with the Baptist distictive of Believer's Baptism.
Particular Baptists migrated to the American Colonies fleeing from persecution. In 1707, the Philadelphia Baptist Association was formed, and it adopted the Philadelphia Confession of Faith in 1742.
This was followed by the 1833 New Hampshire Confession of Faith, which was unifying for American Baptists, and represented a more moderate form of Calvinism that integrated well with other Baptist denominations.
The Southern Baptist Convention would later use the New Hampshire Confession of Faith as a guide when developing their Baptist Faith and Message of 1925. This eventually evolved into the Baptist Faith and Message of 1963.
Today, the Founders Ministries (a Reformed Baptist group) continues to influence the Southern Baptist Convention and has contributed to its conservative resurgence.
Reformed Baptists are a diverse group. Some fully embrace Calvinistic theology (Reformed Baptists) while others, including some Southern Baptists, hold a more moderate or partial Calvinistic view.
Reformed Baptists (followers of The Second London Baptist Confession of 1689) hold many beliefs shared by other Reformed denominations that aren't shared by Particular Baptists in other Baptist denominations. Some of these beliefs are
1. The Lord's Supper serves as a symbolic and spiritual means of grace. (Chapter 30: Of the Lord's Supper)
2. The plurality of elders (Chapter 26: Of the Church)
3. Elements of Covenant Theology (Chapter 7 - Of God’s Covenant with Man, Chapter 19 - Of the Law of God)
Reformed Baptist's have a rich church history that has influenced other Christian denominations and evolved alongside General Baptists and Presbyterians. They are more than just Baptists who believe in predestination. The use of the name Reformed Baptist's is a recent development, with the purpose of differentiating themselves from less Calvinistic Baptists.
I think it comes down to him on the one hand sticking by the synodal structure over the congregational structure of the Baptists and trying to find more reasons than that to reject them, and that he also has an internalized concept of Baptists being nondenoms without the light show or Pentecostals without the Tounges: theologically shallow and overly emotional.
You've given good reasons why that's not the case, but I feel like his convictions toward church structure and the regulative principle are too strong for you to make headway. He'd probably sooner become a Methodist and reject Reformed Theology entirely than "stoop down to the Baptist's level"
There's a sense of detachment that is Christian. Basically detaching yourself from your desires for anything other than Christ and not allowing anything else to interfere with your spiritual journey. The difference is Christians detach themselves from worldly things so that they might grow closer to God. In Oriental religions specifically Buddhism the attachment is an end on to itself. I've heard the Christian mysticism begins where Eastern mysticism ends.
"Jesus did not follow Yoda's advice... at all!" - Zoomer 2024
I love this video so much. It so well done. Well done my friend.
No, no and no. I'm 59 seconds in and you are completely wrong, if not outright intentionally lying about everything regarding what Star Wars teaches.
1: No. Jedi do not teach detachment from the Galaxy. Quite the opposite. They are teaching that every living thing in the Galaxy has intrinsic value. That's what the Force is about. The Force is literally a manifestation of life, therefore obeying the Force means obeying life itself.
What the Jedi do teach, is not forming emotional attachments towards anything or anyone, but having universal, unconditional compassion towards everything and everyone.
2: George Lucas has explicitly explained, that Balance of the Force does not mean daoist style equlibrium between the Dark and the Light. In fact, there's not a single mention in any of his movies about a Light side, they only ever talk about The Force itself, and the Dark side of the Force. The Light side was a garbage concept concocted by the hacks writing the EU, and Lucas actually went out of his way to show the flaws of this interpretation in a trilogy of episodes in the 2008 The Clone Wars series, in which the Dark side is able to destroy the Light and topple the Balance specifically, because it was kept in an equlibrium with the Light (Mortis-trilogy S3E15-17).
The Dark side is not a counterbalance to the Light. It's a corruption of the Force. It's selfishness, that takes without giving, poisoning the universal lifeforce. It's a tumour, that kills it's host and with it, itself. Those are the words of the creator of Star Wars himself.
Even though I'm not sure I agree with this take, I very much enjoyed hearing a new perspective on a property I enjoy!
The Darth Plageus line is a direct reference to Jesus Christ. Palpatine is mocking both Plageus and Anakin, just as the crowd was mocking Jesus.
If this man landed a wife than there is a new hope. lol I’m just kidding.
Hey, thanks! Jesus loves you!
This is awesome! I love your videos zoomer, thank you for being a stepping stone for me coming to the true Christianity. I grew up one of Jehovah’s witnesses and left as a teenager, it took me awhile to unlearn their false doctrines but watching your explanations along with others and just reading the Bible for myself helped me to begin my journey and I found a wonderful Presbyterian church near me I attended for a long time. I have since found my home in the Catholic Church but I absolutely love my Protestant and orthodox brothers and sisters. God bless you and your work, it’s helped a lot of people, God is working through you and through you God has brought many folks home!
Never thought the Empire would create this type of propaganda
This is kind of true. In return of the Jedi both Obi-Wan / Yoda and the emperor thought that by allowing himself to experience his emotions Luke was going to be forced to get into the dark side. Luke leveraged his love for his father and his hope for a better future it is believed that his father could be redeemed to drive him to successfully do so despite a momentary lapse where he succumbed to his own anger. But both Jedi and sith assumed that emotions themselves were the problem. Whereas Luke proved that rightly oriented emotions have no control over you.
What? The Jedi follow the will of the force and make themselves a vessel of a higher power. The sith contort the force to the ends of their ego and limited foresight. Jesus is not a sith, he's a Jedi
If think that Redeemed Zoomer equate Jesus with Darth Vader, please watch the video until the end. Redeemed Zoomer talk about liberal theologians. Those liberal theologians learn from Prebysterian, but those liberal theologians are the one who destroy Christianity.
The force is not a higher power, he explains that in the video.
It would be interesting to see your take on the Matrix films.
Yes! I want to hear the matrix take!
Now THIS is content
I feel like in the original trilogy Luke pushes back against the Jedi philosophy a bit by going to rescue his friends on Cloud City despite Yoda's advice against it, even if it meant sacrificing them for the greater good. Luke chose to attempt to save his friends because his connection to them was greater than his commitment to finish his training as Yoda insisted. The fact that he survives his encounter with Vader and eventually succeeds in the third film hints at something greater than Buddhist philosophy: redemption through repentance. Vader becomes Anakin again by witnessing his son's unwavering belief that it wasn't too late for him to do the right thing. I believe it is this additional element that Lucas deliberately or inadvertently added that ultimately resonated with audiences, something that a strict adherence to quasi-Buddhist principles would not have accomplished. It may also be why the woke have since attempted to undo all of these accomplishments in the sequels.
The Jedi and Sith hate one thing and that is Love. Because it forms attachment and care about others as well as distracts from devotion to their respective faction. Notice how a lot of Jedi and Sith behave in a similar way relative to their own factions. The Jedi are wise and distant while the Sith are charismatic and aggressive. Ultimately both sides strongly dislike those that love and those that show strong will that affirms their own character rather than submission to the Jedi and the Sith, Qui-Gon was a Maverick among the Jedi because he was a free thinker and Revan was actually a descent fellow even as a Sith.
Rather or not the Force or the cults that are the two main factions of it are evil or not is up to the people to decide but in the end, the only message that is perhaps unintentionally sent is that people cannot allow themselves to become slaves to dogma, nor allow power to give rise to it and to be true to one's self no matter how tempting power or serenity may be.
I think to sum up the critiques of what everyone was saying, the Jedi aren't actually the protagonists of Star Wars, or at least, the Venn Diagram isn't a complete overlap. Luke's entire arc in the original trilogy is basically Christian with a Buddhist overlay, he's never punished for using his emotions like Anakin was, and the final duel with Darth Vader in Return of the Jedi is basically him finding a middle way between the Sith extreme of passion and self-intrest and the Jedi extreme of emotions being extinguished and using the Force's will, and appealed to Darth Vader's emotional and paternal ties to him to destroy Palpatine. Ironically, it's a physical version of what the Church Fathers did in their writings, finding a way to use both the ritualism and worldliness of Hebrew and Pagan religion and the archetypical headiness of Greek Philosophy to explain the New Testament revelation and create a concrete worldview. God is neither an impersonal force or a mere genie to pray to get what you want, the Trinity tells us that God is omnipresent yet deeply personal, interested not in mere conjecture or worship, but a paternal relationship and understanding of Christ's Humanity and Divinity.
The Christian message is unlike any other religion when you get down to it, and is of course based in real/continuing history, but Jesus' revelation of himself and his Sacrifice and Resurrection is the closest to "the force"/fate being balanced that you can get. Sin stained the world, but instead of running from it or embracing it, Christ robbed it of it's power.
Jesus doesn't fit either, lol. But I guess you are saying He is closer to the Sith than He is to the Jedi.
If think that Redeemed Zoomer equate Jesus with Darth Vader, please watch the video until the end. Redeemed Zoomer talk about liberal theologians. Those liberal theologians learn from Prebysterian, but those liberal theologians are the one who destroy Christianity.
Will you be contrasting with other forms of Buddhism? This video seems to only touch on Theravada Buddhism, which gave a lot of inspiration to the Jedi, but other schools of Buddhism under the Mahayana and Tantric umbrellas are vastly different in comparison.
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The Jedi Code
There is no emotion, there is peace.
There is no ignorance, there is knowledge.
There is no passion, there is serenity.
There is no chaos, there is harmony.
There is no death, there is the Force.
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The Sith Code
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.
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The Christian Code
Faith is my shield; doubt shall not waver me.
Hope is my sword; despair shall not conquer me.
Charity is my armor; hatred shall not pierce me.
Through humility, I find strength.
Through obedience, I find purpose.
Through sacrifice, I find redemption.
In service to God, I am free.
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Wonder what would happen if Anakin found a copy of the Bible.
11:11 lets also keep in mind Jesus said in Mark 9:40-, " for whoever is not against us is for us" regarding those not of the apostles doing miracles in Jesus' name
The Jedi Order: Buddhism
The Order of The Sith: Satanism
Luke’s Jedi Order: Christianity
Pre Disney canon which is real canon
Finally
Iirc there is contention regarding whether or not "balance" means equal light and dark, or just triumph of the light side; the force does seem to have a will of some kind according to some of the characters at least
There is some contention in the larger franchise but not the core saga by Lucas.
The last speech was amazing
Those liberal theologians are sith who the one who destroy Christianity.
Looking forward to the RZ video: "Guys, I have realized that I am not a qualified Star Wars analyst. I never set out to become one. I have a lot to learn. I will be henceforth sharing and promoting more learned and professional Star Wars nerds who I enjoy learning from."