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Ryan we cannot undo the past. I'm an Australian Aboriginal and I went down the street today and I never got shot at and I'm not wearing a neck brace with chains so things are changing and Aboriginals have the same opportunities as everyone else. We start from this point right here and try our best towards unity, peace and harmony. No more division, bitterness and hatred. Hey we've still got a ways to go, this is a great country and I love this country.
We need more people like you to run this beautiful country. We are one.
I am an Aboriginal & I don't live in the past but it would be good for all Australian s to learn about the settlement of this country & that will give everyone a better understanding of the land was taken & everything that came with that
Yes.
@@williamgilbert3686so many Australians don't know that according to crown law at the time the settlement was illegal.
The whole world is basically built on a lie. F*** I truly believe that we're all actually slaves what would you suggest we do about that?
Hey Mate, I'm of aboriginal decent. Like many others of our peoples, I don't live in the past. My nanna on my dad's side which is the aboriginal side, always said "If your eyes are fixated in the past, you can't see what is ahead of you". That being said it is so important to learn about what went on & the horrible thing that happened. For example "The Stolen Generation" & "the Genocide" all happen to mine & all First Nations Peoples. Being of a lighter skin colour historically, my mob was involved in the "Stolen Generation". This was a dark period in the history of Australia. We look forward, in the hope the gap get smaller. & there's no more division, bitterness, hatred, racism (on either side) & we as a people come together for the betterment of this beautiful big brown land. Respect, peace & love to all.
My ancestor was a convict & I’m a daughter of a digger. I love this country & have great respect for the land I live on & the people. Thank you for your comment, may we live in peace with respect for each other 🇦🇺🪃🦘💙🖤💛♥️
@@Mia_Louiise Cheers for the reply. Greatly appreciated. Respect is not only for the people. It's for the land, the sky, the animals & the water. I & you (sounds like), have a need to leave this world better than when we were born into it. Peace & respect.
You're an absolute legend, Shane! How awesome and wise was your nanna?? That's exactly what I reckon too. The more ppl concentrate on the past, it's keeping everything anchored there, keeping the wound open and bleeding and not allowing anyone to heal... and not letting any of us look forward to the bright future that can be. Much love to you, brother xxoo
And, I should add, we need to be working on current indigenous issues to help make life better... but there are also plenty of white ppl issues too that need work. We all just need to respect and love each other to help each other have better lives xxoo
@@tammymcleod4504 Hey, thanks for the kind words, greatly appreciated. You're absolutely correct, if we don't heal & we let the wounds fester, it will only make the healing process harder to achieve. One person can make a difference in the world, but it takes a mob to change the world for the betterment of people. I know it's not going to happen in my lifetime. Without peace, respect, recognition of our differences & reconciliation between every nation & within the nation. We will keep fighting & eventually tear ourselves apart. Big up my sister, xoxo
I don't care which day it is celebrated - just hope everyone can celebrate together how our country how it is, not how it was.
She forgot to mention the First Fleet was a convoy of ships full of Convicts being Transported out of England and Ireland. There were other ships of free settlers but Australia was based on Fleets of Convicts. It was a Penal Colony.
Yes, modern Australia had tragic beginnings.
Yeah, true, there's several key pieces of the information left out. That's why I'm going to go out on the limb and say that it wasn't an Aussie making the video.
It was slavery setup by the British government as a lucrative business, once the land was forcefully taken from the indigenous people.
@jogrant3851 Oh, I don't think anything has changed. I think we're just all slaves now.
Not my part of Australia. South Australia was a free settler colony, not penal.
Choosing another day will not make a difference, they would then find something else to complain about.
Mourning always ends and we grow and move forward. Leave the date alone, we’ve put the suffering behind us and joined together as a nation! I am, you are, we are Australian!
Valid comment Jeni, we need to change the hate NOT the date
@@blacksorrento4719 Exactly, we need to band together not cause a division.
If the date doesn't really matter to most Australians, but a subset of Australians feel like it keeps the division and inequality in the present, rather than letting it be 'put behind us' then why not change the date? Is it worth ostracizing part of our community that we are claiming to want to be united with us just to die on the hill of 'just leave the date alone'? If someone I know gets really anxious about a particular song on my car playlist, then I skip it. Hell, even if they just don't like the song I skip it. I don't have to do that, but all the songs on the playlist are ones I like so it's all the same to me which one is playing as long as there is music. Why would I choose to be difficult and make other people uncomfortable just because I can't be bothered to hit skip to another song? It's a nothing cost for me and a huge deal for them, so refusing is disrespectful and selfish
@@lamroki Why change the date? Change the attitudes!
@Jeni10 there are other dates that could be used to celebrate all Australians, rather than the anniversary of Cook and the others arriving and deciding that the country now belonged to England, ignoring the fact that indigenous people already lived here for 10s of 1000s of years. Colonisation has historically harmed all indigenous populations of people, every time the countries were invaded
Im part aboriginal part westerner and man I see both sides of the argument. But one thing I do know about aussies is that we just like our holidays. Nobody actually cares that it was the day the western side of me arrived. We just want a day off work xD so Im ok with Australia day being mostly that and just getting to be extra australian.
Im aboriginal and often I think of Australia Day as Invasion Day. It just makes me sad thinking about how much I have lost regarding my connection with my culture. I don't know my mob, where my family came from. But also if the first fleet didn't arrive, I wouldn't be alive since my dad's side originated from Scotland. I often hoped the day would change to federation day so maybe I could let go of all the hatred. Even now I mostly just try to sleep through the day and not think about all the "what if" and "could have."
Well give up on what you have and go live out the bush.
Sending a big virtual hug your way. I really hope they change the date for all the people who suffer because of the current date.
Personally I’d rather celebrate the achievements than be depressed about what was.
You cannot change history, you can only learn from it. It’s easier to move on than it is to fire a hatred towards something that cannot be undone. I’d like to see the whole of Australia celebrate the wonderful nation it is today 🇦🇺
Yeah then change the date and all of us can celebrate
I agree, but in some people's minds, there IS a way to undo the past - return full control over the country to them, and them alone.
We will never move on though
Yes, you can learn from history. There doesn't need to be a hatred, merely acknowledgement of the pain and suffering that history has caused. So many want to just sweep it under the rug and ignore it because it was "so long ago".
Changing the date isn't hard and would be an amazing gesture for everyone in Australia to celebrate our country
Krealm, you're just repeating the hysteria of the outright bigoted aboriginal haters
No-one who is critical of Australia Day nor voted yes in the referendum ever ever say to take things back to pre colonisation.
Never.
Only you.
I am so glad i live in this country
🇦🇺 🇦🇺 🇦🇺
There was also a lot of convicts on the ships that were forced to come here. I don’t think they were very happy either.
They barely had anything to eat in Britain and lived in filth. Australia wouldn't have been a different kind of horrible, but a decent chance to live
No. Some of the "convicts" were children. John Hudson was 9 years old. He was tried in the Old Baily, London for breaking into a property. His parents were dead, and he couldn't remember how long he had been an orphan. Some tragic stories reading about the convicts sent to Australia.
@@sophitsa79 Seriously "live", the convicts were housed in the ships holds, without food or water or heating and god help you if you were a reasonably attractive woman or child - many babies were created in these long voyages unwillingly - and my young great great grandfather was a victim of male abuse! They had no food source, water or shelter when they arrived and the first colony almost starved! Decent?
@@mindi2050 Yes, many children! My own great great grandfather had finished his apprenticeship and was looking for new work when he was arrested for being an unemployed orphan, he had older siblings and very good references but he was simply an undesirable! He never saw any of his family again, and was denied any rights here! He was incarcerated at Norfolk Island, Macquarie Harbour and then worked for a brutal series of ex soldiers, who hated him simply because he was well educated!
@@jenniferharrison8915 they are when they got here and they were handed acres of land. They were living in squalor in the UK.
Grateful we have the freedom to discuss and hold an opinion about anything without fear
That can be celebrated EVERY day.
It's special on its own.
Yes we are lucky first nations only want a voice at the table and Not full on revenge for yrs of mistreatment. Eg Rape and massacres.
That’s not true, when I was a child my skin was dark and and I was bleached white, and when I wouldn’t go along with the way life was here I was told I would never be taught anything, I’ve been starved and made so sick I nearly died year after year, all the aboriginal people I know are riddled with disease none of us can get good medicine. This is not a free country it’s got spoilt British brats ruling the streets, If your not scared then your with them
We don't. One side has the freedom, the other has to keep their mouth shut for fear of being labelled racist.
David. You're being absurd.
Did the no vote lose the referendum for lack of publicity?
Was the no vote cancelled?
Is David hysterical?
More importantly, is David a racist but for some inexplicable reason thinks he is not?
Hmm?
Personally I would rather see Australia Day on 1st September, Wattle Day. I don't think the controversy will ever change unless the date is changed.
Too cold for a barby on 1st Sept, mate.
The controversy will never end with some people. Even if you got rid of Australia Day that would not make them happy.
They will say to give the land back and to end mining.
@@berranari1 Unfortunately I think you are right. I have found myself going from sympathetic to their past struggles to resentment in their current attempts.
Yep, we cant undo the past, but we can honestly acknowledge it and take ownership of it, recognise the advantage and disadvantage which stems from it, and the ongoing trauma which First Nations people endure as a result. This is not an appropriate date for a unifying National celebration. I was born in 1965, before Indigenous people were even recognised in this country. Australia Day was never anything more than a long weekend at the end of summer holidays. It wasn't even mandated to take place on Jan 26 until 1988. Before that it was the closest Monday. It was never seen or celebrated as anything particularly special, and I always questioned its relevance to anyone outside of Sydney or NSW at best, as it commemorates the founding of Sydney, not the nation, which began on 1/1/1901. In the past, Australia Day has been celebrated on various dates, none of which were Jan 26. It was the 1988 Bicentennial which ignited this jingoistic pseudo patriotism witnessed every year, with fireworks and flags on towels, thongs and bikinis, and only in 1994 was it officially declared the national day. So much for "tradition"... We need to listen to First Nations' reasons and respect them, and the rest of us, by deciding on a less divisive, more representative day for a National celebration. Rant over...
Very insightful comment, thank you.
As a 7th generarion Australian. (Yes I had convict ancestors from the 1700's as well as free settler ancestors from the 1800's and a mix of other nationalities thrown in along the way..... I can say I feel as much Australian as anyone who was born here. Where else would I belong. We can't change history, on how we all came to be here. Absolutely the way our indigenous peoples were displaced was horrific, not to mention many atrocities that have happened since then. But we are moving in better directions and what we need to do is unify in our love for this great country. We are one of few countries where we can still walk safely in our streets without fear of war, with good access to education, health services, jobs, comfortable homes and nice communities abailable to everyone who is willing to work for it. We have something to be very proud of. There are still fences to mend but hopefully one day our great nation will remember the past for what it was and move forward together in unity
I, 90%, agree with you all the way up to the point of. "Willing to work for it" it almost sounds like modern slavery. I've spent the last 37 years hearing that that we're all deserve a roof over our heads and food in our bellies, right? well then, why do I have to work for it. Sorry, I kind of went off on a tangent there 😅
Noone is taking away Australian pride by asking to change the date. But recall there was no such thing as "Australia" until 1 January 1901. On 26 January 1788, we had the British colony of New South Wales, who regarded the orginal people of this land, who have been here since the last Ice Age, as "fauna". I think all foreign settlers of the past 234 years should recognise the end of the indegenous national soveriegnty, recognise the loss felt by our fellow Australians. I'm sure they have no problem with actual First Fleet decendents celebrating landing day or whatever on 26 Jan, but to them, it was the end of a lifesyle of 60 millenia. I don't know why that is so hard to understand.
As an Aussie of much shorter duration, I reckon we move the holiday to 2 January, as 1 January is already a holiday. That way we all save a day of rec leave to get an extra day off at Christmas.
@@wildchris11
. if we all put our hand out for a free ride where would we be. We should all be equal and all need to contribute in some way for what we get. So yes we do have to be willing to work for it one way or another. I doubt their is any community anywhere I the world that no one has to contribute in some way. Even the most primitive ancient communities share tasks to gather food and make shelter. My family didn't have a lot and lived in a poorer neighbourhood when i was growing up and there were times when there was no work but we still survived. We had a roof over our head we all went to school, and always had food on the table and the doctors fixed is when we were sick. We made best of what we had. So even without working for it, we had all.of that.
Many of our neighbours and best freinds were indigenous or recent immigrants and none of is were well off but we had an awesome community.
But by putting in the hard yards over the years we are all much better off.
@@bucinsk I don't disagree with any of that.
If that's all it takes to finally make peace within our nation then it's worth it
@carolynh8866 Yeah, I partly agree, but I feel like it goes a lot deeper than that, and that's without even mentioning conspiracys. I remember this documentary I saw about how 40% of the world's wealth is held by 1% of the population I don't know about you, but I think there are a lot of people out there that are getting way more then their work is worth. 👍✌️ that was a little all over the place, but it's hard to put into words
What have the Romans ever done for us?
XERXES: The aqueduct?
REG: What?
XERXES: The aqueduct.
REG: Oh. Yeah, yeah. They did give us that. Uh, that's true. Yeah.
COMMANDO #3: And the sanitation.
LORETTA: Oh, yeah, the sanitation, Reg. Remember what the city used to be like?
REG: Yeah. All right. I'll grant you the aqueduct and the sanitation are two things that the Romans have done.
MATTHIAS: And the roads.
REG: Well, yeah. Obviously the roads. I mean, the roads go without saying, don't they? But apart from the sanitation, the aqueduct, and the roads--
COMMANDO: Irrigation.
XERXES: Medicine.
COMMANDOS: Huh? Heh? Huh...
COMMANDO #2: Education.
COMMANDOS: Ohh...
REG: Yeah, yeah. All right. Fair enough.
COMMANDO #1: And the wine.
COMMANDOS: Oh, yes. Yeah...
FRANCIS: Yeah. Yeah, that's something we'd really miss, Reg, if the Romans left. Huh.
COMMANDO: Public baths.
LORETTA: And it's safe to walk in the streets at night now, Reg.
FRANCIS: Yeah, they certainly know how to keep order. Let's face it. They're the only ones who could in a place like this.
COMMANDOS: Hehh, heh. Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh.
REG: All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?
XERXES: Brought peace.
REG: Oh. Peace? Shut up!
A lot of younger generations of australians don't realize that Australia Day was actually celebrated in july up until 1981
Its been 26 January since I was a baby and I am 73. The fact that most people don't realize is that the first landinf was on 18th January in Botany Bay.
Apparently it depends on the state, but it certainly didn't have the hyperfixation pre the bicentenary
Sadly incorrect, but it has been celebrated on various dates, including July, in the past.
Very 'Irish heritage' Aussie here... my thoughts have always been that nobody "gets to decide if our first nations peoples are offended or not". If they are, they are! As are a lot of Australians. If indigenous Aussies want it changed... then out of respect, we should bloody change it. Progress forward, TOGETHER! (insert stirring rendition of 'I am Australian' here)
That's exactly how I feel.
When i was younger Australia Day was always a long weekend. In Western Australia We celebrated it on the Monday closest to the 26th. I always thought that was a better way to celebrate as we would go camping and connect with the spirit of the land. ❤ This Country
Audrey. So was Anzac Day.
It took the death of our last veterans of WW1 who would have had apoplexy at the mere thought that their long weekend would be taken off them.
Remember when we lived in the country of the long weekend?
That was destroyed by the neo cons who if I remember rightly attacked the long weekends as a symptom of the "laziness" of Australians from the 80's onwards.
The result. Massive increases in productivity, the freezing of the standard of living for decades and a massive disparity in the distribution of wealth.
Is this not true?
Australians always knew how to work hard and were rewarded for their nation building endeavours.
I want us to regain the idea that life is more than work and wage slavery.
I want Australia Day to be on a weekend.
The Australia Day Long Weekend!
A time to reflect on the many things that make us, in the company of our families, friends and the wide community around us.
We should be grateful that we live in a country where we can celebrate Australia day if want too, and not celebrate if we don’t. Simple. The past good or bad is the reason we are all here.
When a man got ARRESTED this year 2024... for having an Oz flag because there was a big protest nearby, and the police wanted to stop any conflict....I do NOT think we have a choice anymore!
My Black African slave 4th and 5th great grandfathers, John Johannes Martens and John Randall, were among other convict ancestors of mine who came to this country aboard the ship 'Alexander' with the First Fleet , on the 26th January, 1788 led by Captain Arthur Phillip...There were around 1400 convicts, soldiers and free men on this ship...The journey took a little over 8 months, and there were 48 lives lost, mainly from dysentery, tuberculosis and pneumonia....My 4 x great grandfather, John Martens, after serving 7 years, went on become a Police constable, and was given his own 50 acres of land, 40 cleared, with 15 cultivated, along with 3 horses, 20 sheep, and a convict employed labourer, at the Field of Mars in Sydney (Parramatta).....
My great great great grandmother was a descendant of African slaves from St Helena, her British soldier husband who retired after Napoleon passed away, and was given free land and convict slaves in Tasmania! Cheers Mate! 👍
I can't understand why people (including the opposition leader) get unpet that a supermarket isn't selling things that are made in China like Australia Day merchandise. Doesn't seem patriotic to demand they sell things made in another country but maybe that's just me.
Ha ha yes definitely concur.
Who cares what potato head says anyway.@@nimbinguy
On 26 January 1949, the Nationality and Citizenship Act 1948 became law. It was the first time that the term ‘Australian citizen’ had been used in any Australian legislation, including the Australian Constitution. Although the Act has been changed since 1948, it is still the basis for how a person becomes an Australian citizen. Keep the date as it is and let's get this country back to what it once was.
Like the good ol' days of dentistry.
@michaelrogers2080 I got my first passport in March 1976. There is absolutely no mention of me being a 'British subject".
The Australian Constitution still makes no mention of Australian citizenship.
Australia Day was celebrated on Jan 26th long before that Act was made law. It was proclaimed on Jan 26 because that day was already celebrated as Australia Day. You have it the wrong way around. Jan 26th is all about Sydney Cove and claiming it for the first colony - nothing to do with the 1948 citizenship Act.
It's interesting you say "I don't know how to feel" - I think a lot of Aussies have the same problem.
This has been part of our lives for years and you're still lost?
No I think is a reflection of listening to how it makes some people feel. Being empathic. Thinking about what it would be like to experience the things our First Nations people tell us they have. I like that it’s morphing into a day of recognition and respect for all and especially our First Nations people. Bloody hell! They are the oldest civilisation on record. Mad respect! Knowing where we’ve come from …celebrating our diversity …together.
@@samanthagollan8592"our first nations people" - do you own them?
As an Australian, I feel it’s important to celebrate our beautiful nation. As an Australian that wants to live in a nation of unity, equality and equity, I feel the date could easily be changed to assist everyone to celebrate.
I'm all for a long weekend myself, a purely Australian expression cone to life again.
The land of the long weekend.
Plenty of time to express the good and the bad or not if that's your bent.
EQUITY means wealth and power redistribution. That's communism by another name. By definition it's unequal and unfair.
I don't see why anyone view australia day as "invasion day" or "survival day"
It's literally the same thing in literally every part of the world. America, Europe, or anywhere really.
The comment at 11:30 is literally what all Australians Celebrate anything on AuDay Do.
Throw a party with our neighbours and friends, not go on a shooting spree because you don't like that white guy because his great great grandpa was brought here on a boat, and was probably sick when he got here.
The same can be said about Columbus Day, the First Nation people probably do not see it as a day of celebration but the start of an invasion into their world.
What about the Vikings, and the Spanish??
The Vikings came and went without lasting subjugation in a couple of years. The Spanish followed on from Columbus who's expedition was sponsored by the Spanish crown.
So what about the Spanish and the Vikings.
No amount of wrongs make up any amount of rights.
Acknowledge the bad along with the good and work towards resolving long standing issues.
That's how inclusivity is created.
That's how a new nation with a decidedly sketchy history grows up with a citizenry that can hold their head up high with no contradiction.
@@banta-pd8zj Long standing issues, cannot be resolved if nobody who was there is still alive to tell the story! You cannot apologize if it is not sincere and you weren't personally involved, you cannot transfer personal pain to another! Almost every country has been invaded and many ethnic communities completely subjugated (look at Russia), the Australian Aboriginals have not been hunted, demonised, or subjugated, they are equal citizens to other Australians but chose to play the victim rather than contribute to our country! 🤨
@banta-pd8zj I agree. Thank you for putting some good sense into the discussion.
As an Aboriginal woman and a remote area nurse working in remote Aboriginal communities I will say this…
We WANT to be able to celebrate this country, the country it has become, together, all of us. We can do this on literally ANY other date. But asking us to celebrate on the day that marked the beginning of a very dark time for our people is insensitive at best. To those who say “its all in the past”, it could be except you choose to commemorate the day we stopped being seen as people, lost our land, lost culture, language, lives ….. Please, we all should move on and respect and include ALL Australians by celebrating our amazing country on a different day.
It would be like me showing up at your place every year on the anniversary of your grandma’s death with a case of beer and then partying in your backyard while getting annoyed at you for not wanting to join in. Australia needs to grow up and change the date.
Well said Aunty ❤💛🖤
Try to imagine this, a colleague shows up at work and says, 'it’s my birthday do you want some of this cake?' and in response you say, 'How dare you you celebrate the anniversary of your birth! You should be blamed for your parents conceiving you. You have no right to celebrate your birthday .'
Do you think that the Nords, Romans, French or Kelts will be sorry for invading Britain, NO because they influenced the Country to be GREAT.
Just like Britain did here. @@kel1985
Also worth remembering that on 26 January 1788 only a British colony was formed. The country Australia wasn't established for more than another 100 years on 1 January 1901 when federation happened and all the state become one country.
Honestly, 1st of January would be an ideal day to celebrate our national day. I can't see how anyone would be offended at federation being the anniversary point. It's just a shame that's already new years.
@@Hysteresis.Actual It would be like having you birthday on Christmas Day. No one would choose that.
@@Hysteresis.ActualYou mean when we adopted a raaacist constitution? There’s no date that will satisfy them. None. The activists hate the fact we were settled at all, and the fact that most Aussies aren’t sad about it. It’s that simple. They are content to wallow in their perpetual misery because of something that will never change happened a quarter of a millennium ago. Grievance is now their social currency.
Perhaps we should celebrate Federation day, on the 27th May, the Birthday of the man known as "The Father of Federation" Sir Henry Parkes, given it was largely his early promotion of the joining of the six colonies that led to its eventuality. Side note : The source video is scant on other important aspects of the times described, probably due to being made for a 10-12 year old classroom audience. All elements of history need to be learned by all Australians, the good and the bad. There is no reason why the current Australia Day cannot remain for those that wish it, and those that wish to call it Invasion/Survival can also do that. Let it be a time for honest and open dialogue, and a chance to celebrate the lifestyle we share now, no matter when we came here or when we were born.
If you want to change the day, it should be January 1st when Australia became a federated commonwealth. Eliminating the New Years Day public holiday will be an added bonus for the economy.
Its important to note the dates and the relationship to the USA independence date. USA gained independence from Britain in 1776. As a result, Britain had to look elsewhere for a colony and to send their prisoners. New South Wales was discovered about the same time, and the rest is history. So I’m blaming you Ryan, and George Washington
I could say heaps as I am a retired history teacher aged 80, descended from a convict who arrived in 1822 and also through one of my great-grandfathers the Dharawal people. I am and remain a very happy Woolworths customer. All the outrage is to me mostly hot air. All the chest thumping and nappy-wetting going on about Anniversary Day/Invasion Day in some circles now is mind-destroying, so I will spare you. Masochists may visit Sky Oz for themselves. Let’s just say we really ought to have moved on and realised that walking and chewing gum at the same time is very possible! In my case Survival Day has never been the same since I took the trouble to participate in the Invasion Day march in 1988. On 26 January 1988, more than 40,000 people, including Aborigines from across the country and non-Indigenous supporters, staged what was the largest march in Sydney since the Vietnam moratorium. And you know what? Oz Day has been better, richer and deeper for me as a consequence! I understand this wonderful country and my place in it so much better!
Nappy wetting.
Wow. Aren't you respectful.
It is not only the aboriginal people, but those understanding and enlightened people of Australia, they are now viewing Australia Day in a different light, a different context.
time to be proud of where our country is for families and friends to come together to celebrate beingin the lucky country
You forgot the rest of that quote: “ Australia is a Lucky Country, led by second-rate men who share in its luck”.
Totally agree. Let's find an appropriate date on which to do so... But as mentioned in previous reply, the lucky country does not mean what most people think it does...
As an Australian who had aboriginal friends at school and sports teams in the late 60s ,through to the late 70s , I can see both sides of the argument .Unfortunately, I don't think it will ever be completely resolved ,but I hope one day it will .
The Spanish and Portuguese did a similar thing in South and Central America , the Romans took over the known world at the time , and Russia ...well you know ...etc etc .
Happy Australia Day Ryan.
IMO, Australia Day, Invasion Day it’s who you are as to which day you rather it gets referred to. If we have to be blamed for the past then it may be Invasion Day. If you are for the now and moving forward then some of us refer to it as Australia Day. For me, an immigrant from Singapore and married to an English bloke from the UK we are both naturalised Australian and by golly we won’t be made to feel bad that we are here and now. Three cheers for all Australians 🇦🇺
We are all Australians, it's the day most migrants became Australian and a special day of celebration! We weren't here and there is no logical reason we should now pay more millions to change OUR day, when so many are in need TODAY! Collective guilt is irrational, why not blame the Dutch!
I don't know if you are into doing research, but your husband has more power, under our constitution, than I do as a sixth generation white/Irish-Australian descendant of 77 years, with a history dating back to 1830's Australia.
You see, Australians aren't even mentioned in our Constitution. And the British Royal family, under the name of Monarch of Australia, have more ownership of this land than any of my family's heritage ever did: British owned mining companies, subservient to the Monarchy, own the land.
We non 'subservient to the Crown' Aussies have a couple of metres of land ownership below us, and a similar air space above us.
So if the unfortunate situation should occur where you and your British husband should legally separate, you become like the majority of Australians that are not of direct British decent.
America isn't the only nation lying to its people/subservients.
AND before anyone decides to make a fool of themselves by accusing me to the contrary, PLEASE go do some simple research. Pete
Changing the date has got nothing to do with collective guilt and everything to do with moving forward together.
@@jocelynhunter2359 Whose paying? Who chooses? Why? We are already one Australia!
@@petemedium2185 It's true that the Australian Constitution reads like Australia is still a British outpost and the monarch runs the show. But much has changed since the Australian Constitution was written. See Westminster Act 1931 and the very important Australia Act 1986. The Australia Act made it crystal clear that Australia is a sovereign, independent nation. Even if we do still have a constitutionally pointless foreign HoS.
This has been a long-standing issue. But it has been exacerbated by the 'importation' of identity politics from America.
Got that right. Aussies are copycats.
What does that even mean?
@paulhunt3307 bleeding heart's that don't understand that is how every country started
If being respectful and acknowledging other's concerns makes someone a "bleeding heart", then count me in. Nice attempt at gaslighting. Every country did not start with stolen land and cultural genocide. A few maybe, but certainly not all... And you don't need an apostrophe for simple plurals. You're welcome.
When I was growing up Australia Day was nothing more than an excuse for a long weekend for the adults and for kids it went completely unnoticed as it was during school holidays. It certainly wasn't heralded with the jingoistic carry-on we see today. In fact, that sort of flag-waving patriotism would have been viewed as unAustralian and best left to the Americans along with their Pledge of Allegiance and flying their flag in every front yard.
Being an older Australian, when I grew up, there was no long weekend to celebrate Australia day.
The reality is our ex Prime Minister John Howard foisted Australia Day on the whole country. Until then, it was only celebrated in NSW. We weren't even a countey until 1st January, 1901, it was a collection of colonies. Personally I think we should have a neutral day, it doesn't matter. We could have a ballot as to which day. 3rd March is a pretty logical day considering.
Why not January 1st?
@@wayneperry7413 Because the Nationality and Citizenship Act 1948 became law on 26 January 1949, Not the 1st of Jan.
@@wayneperry7413 Because that is already a public holiday.
@@janetpendlebury6808 can easily be changed so that Jan 2 is actually News Years public holiday, I’m sure most Australians are happy with 2 holidays in a row.
@@zybch Federation is more important. It marked the beginning of the Commonwealth of Australia. I doubt people who were around in 1948 even noticed their change of status to 'Australian citizen'. My own parents and grandparents had always seen themselves as Australian, well before 1948.
A few comments and answers to queries that arose.
1. Captain James Cook was only a Lieutenant when he charted and claimed the east coast in 1770. He wasn’t promoted to captain until his return to Britain.
2. Cook approached from the east, having circumnavigated New Zealand, because the first priority of the voyage was to record the transit of Venus from Tahiti. His next priority was a secret commission to map and claim Terra Australis Incognita for Britain.
3. By the 1780s, sending convicts to North America was no longer practicable so a solution had to be found.
4. The records of Cook and Banks recorded Botany Bay as a good place for settlement but their visit was in the cool of a wet autumn. Phillip’s party arrived in the peak of a dry summer and didn’t find the water sources that Cook and Banks recorded. Port Jackson however was a much better harbour with fresh water available from what became known as the Tank Stream.
5. Australia was the only one of Britain’s colonies not occupied under a treaty.
6. There were vials of small pox recorded on the manifests on the ships of the First Fleet. For what purpose?
7. 26 January has been a national holiday since 1994. So, anyone who tells you about centuries of tradition behind it (Limited News publications; 95% of Reddit) is lying.
regarding the smallpox vials- from national museum.
A more likely source of the disease was the ‘variolas matter’ Surgeon John White brought with him on the First Fleet.
‘Variolas matter’ is pus taken from a recovering smallpox sufferer and sealed in a glass bottle to isolate and preserve it. White intended to use it to variolate any children born in the settlement. Research in the 1970s has shown that the smallpox virus withstands a wide range of temperatures and humidity and remains viable over many years.
How this material could have infected the local tribes is unknown. The appalling devastation it wrought probably silenced anyone in the colony who might have known.
The French were also on there way to claim Terra Australis, that certainly would have been far worse, they had just raped every land and starved or killed thousands on there travel here!
@michaelrogers2080 And the French were only minutes behind!
@@jenniferharrison8915 La Perouse is a nice place !
@@20flstfi01 So is the Huon River and the D'Entrecasteaux Channel in Tasmania! 😁
It's not Australia Day tomorrow, which is January 25th, 2024; it's the day after on January 26th. It will work out when it is ready to be worked out. It's not ready yet. In the meantime, all Australians have their own relationship with the day, and they end up spending it the way that means something to them or not. Not all Australians are drinkers, and not all Australians use the day for a booze up. Australia has a value for fairness, so when it's ready to be worked out, it will be fair. Until then, every January 26th comes and goes, each year it's different.
He did say Australia Day eve eve which is today 24th
It is Australia Day tomorrow as I’m Australian dickhead
It's just semantics.
In reality the day does not matter, it's what Australia day means to you that matters.
I understand that it represents trauma for some but celebration for others. No matter what day it's held, the meaning will still be the same.
The land was far from thriving, maybe in certain areas, but for most of the country and it’s inhabitants, it was far from beer and skittles
Your view of thriving may be different to others .
Australia was isolated as a continent for millennia, but was never going to remain isolated forever. The Australian Aborigine as a people just happened to succumb to the same thing every other faraway place did… world exploration, settlement, a shrunken world. It was inevitable.
Considering the other players in the “conquering” business, they may want to thank their lucky Southern Cross stars it was the British who won out. The British weren’t perfect, obviously, but if the Spanish or Portuguese got there first? There might not be an Aboriginal alive today.
All who live here are Australian.
Australian citizens or Australian wannabees? Visa holders such as Visitors, Temporary Residents/international students and Permanent Residents by definition are not Australian and yet they do live here. Although many of those living here may have aquired our Australian values and knowledge of our society sufficient to assimilate, many more have not (and/or have not demonstrated those values and knowledge to the required standard) and therefore have not passed the required tests to enable them to claim to be Australian. Those visa holders are all here either on an impermanent basis or have not completed the naturalisation process, so are not able to call themselves Australian. So no, not all who live here are Australian. So a long way of saying: many can’t yet be Australian, some may even not want to be.
@@DeepThought9999 I bet some Australians born and raised, would not pass the citizenship test either.
You shouldn't forget that Britain also sent convicts to America before the war of independence.
Most Americans have no idea.
You did well Ryan. Can't see how anyone could take offence to anything you said. .. It is a bit of a touchy subject but, in my experience at least, not something we are tearing ourselves apart over. A few people I know are dead set against changing the date, a similar number are fervently against the 26th Jan but most are pretty casual about it and don't really care that much one way or the other. There are more pressing things to worry about these days is the general vibe I get from my family/friends and acquaintances.
There are people who are tearing themselves over this issue.
It's mainly people who find nothing positive with the indigenous population of this country and will concede nothing to them.
There's quite a few channels around which are echo chambers to the extreme.
Good insight Ryan. Colonisation happened .. invasions happen .. and still are!
Celebrating our nation is all inclusive ❤ It’s the closest thing to patriotism we have and being mostly the apathetic arseholes we are Not celebrating Australia Day like it is something to be ashamed of is offensive and I’m finally beginning to understand the term ‘woke’ … Tennis / Cricket Australia and anyone else that wants to ignore our ‘Day’ can go **** themselves. There will be repercussions to this that I’m really not looking forward too seeing 🫣🇦🇺
I am incredibly confused as to what this means. What do you mean by “repercussions”??
@@Theoncestsystem Some people will be angry .. some people will drink too much and do silly things to show their displeasure .. I hope they don’t but I’m not confident 🤞
@@Theoncestsystemhe means that the people are tired of the woke people
I think it's sad it's been politically weaponised. In my eyes it seems like smokes and mirrors away from solving actual issues. Australia Day is about us all coming together and focusing on what we all share and appreciating where we live. And its almost always a beautiful summer day.
I was blessed to be born in Australia after my parents migrated from Italy in the 1950s. I love my country, I’m so proud to be an Aussie but I can no longer celebrate on 26th January, since learning more about the pain it causes the Aboriginal people. Diversity is one of the most beautiful things about Australia but how can I truly feel proud about that on a day that divides us from the first carers of this land, the first link in the Australia history? i hope it changes. Australia Day used to be a beautiful day where the whole county stopped to celebrate this amazing country, it’s now so divided and has lost its pride.
Somehow we are made to feel guilty about somthing we had nothing to do with.
@@derekcraignolan what we are guilty of is not acknowledging the pain and suffering of fellow humans, and allowing them the respect we would also want. We have no emotional connection to January 26th, it was only changed to this date in 1994 yet are so clouded by stubbornness.
We have celebrated Australia Day on 26th January since the early 1930’s. Remember the big Bi-centennial in 1988
What suffering of fellow humans are you talking about? The suffering in 1788 of the convicts?
@@derekcraignolan First Nations population went from an estimated 1-1.5 million before invasion to less than 100,000 by the early 1900s!
I agree punishment of the convicts was terrible at the hands of the British. But simply because one group of individuals suffered doesn’t overrule the topic at hand or lesson the GENOCIDE that happened to the Aboriginal people. There is NO comparison. Look up the cold hard facts on the atrocities.
Dude. I’m loving your reaction. I can tell you’re trying to be polite.😂
why wouldn’t u try to be polite?
Ryan, Cook was coming from the Pacific Islands and then New Zealand, so he came from the east. You should know that he shot three times at two warriors on the shore who were trying to scare them away and hit one in the thigh, all before he'd even stepped out of the ship's boat. That was prophetic.
Ah well. Cook got what was coming to him in the end 😂
Convicts were also sent to North America, Britain only started sending them to oz when you guys didn’t want them any more. They suggest may 8th - mate
7:24 many people refer to this as XYZ..… No. As usual just a very small amount of noisy extremists who force the rest of us to listen.
Happy Australia Day everyone!
Australia day has only come about in 1984 when a day Jan 26 was celebrated as Arthur Philip declared in it a British colony after a displacing and deaths of aboriginals. We need indigenous to be at peace to move forward 🙏. Many many white people have embraced the need to be a better more inclusive country.
Honestly, it’s Australia’s woke narrative…just like the referendum, the silent minority don’t want the day changed. Let’s not forget that Britain was ‘colonised’ by Rome and yet where is the fuss about that. The Aboriginals travelled through Asia to get here…they just arrived first. The British improved this country markedly in many ways and along with the many other hard working people built this great land. The victim narrative is not new and living in the past helps no one…
# silent majority
I'll be shopping at Woolies on Invasion Day thanks to Spuds Dutton.
they got there 60000 years before the colonists duh!!!! what a stupid comparison and scotland was never colonised by the romans - your history is shit
“living in the past helps no one”, least of all those believe themselves to be suffering from situations that occurred in the past (and for which efforts are continuously being made to address past injustices) but who continue to be unable or unwilling to break themselves out of their adverse situation by undertaking their own positive, even if difficult, efforts. Like my school reports always said: “needs to try harder” and not give up.
The convicts were sent to the American colony, before the Australian one.
26th Jan wasn’t even the offical Australia Day until the 1990s
It's also a stupid name since it's not even the founding of Australia.
@@RandomStuff-he7lu True, it was the founding of the colony of NSW.
Because the holiday is to celebrate being Australian and our great CPU try. We aren't celebrating the 2nd landing of the first fleet specifically. It's just an event that happened on that date. @@RandomStuff-he7lu
Seriously now, that's just not right! Australia Day has been "officially" celebrated in Victoria since 1931, and by 1935 it was "officially" celebrated in all states an territories.. The issue was that not all States and territories provided a public holiday on the actual day/date of 26th January, instead they tied it in with a long weekend in an add hoc manner just before or just after the date. The early 90's the Keating Labor government brought about uniformity across all States and territories, and in 1994 Australia day became a public holiday on the 26th of January "only", not some other date providing a long weekend! Here in Victoria we've had a public Holiday for Australia Day since 1931, my mother is pushing 90 years of age and she recalls Australia Day Celebrations happening for as far back a she can remember.
It pays to do a little research before you make sweeping statements, guess you're only young so good on you for having a crack..
@@oldmanstuff_au bs , not once when I was a kid did anyone I knew “celebrate” anything on jan26 .
There's a lot of misinformation about Australia Day and the date. It has nothing to do with the landing of the first fleet date which was 20th January, or the arrival of Captain Cook which was 19th April. It came from The Nationality and Citizenship Act 1948 came into effect on 26 January 1949, in which every Australian, regardless of race, stopped being British subjects and became Australian citizens all. Previously, the government-approved residents of Australia had only been "British nationals".
Jacinta Price, an Indigenous leader who supports keeping 26 January as Australia Day, observes that 26 January 1949 marked the beginning of the Nationality and Citizenship Act (1948), which created an Australian citizenship and the conditions by which it could be acquired. (Indigenous people were implicitly included in the act in the category of ‘natural-born’ Australians, a status they hadn't previously held in their own country.)
Not true. Australia Day being on Jan 26 has never been due to the citizenship Act. It was proclaimed on that date because it was already celebrated as Australia Day - not the other way around. You can't retro fit that to suit your argument. Be honest. Jan 26 has always been about the flag ceremony in Sydney Cove for the new colony.
@@ngaireg7736 rubbish, The flag ceremony has nothing to do with the date. That's another lie to denigrate the national day
@@Steve_P_B The British flag was officially planted by Governor Philip on 26th January 1788. Australia Day commemorates this day. The Australian Citizenship Act was legislation introduced many years later. Well after the first Australia Day was commemorated. Whether most Australians were even aware that their status had been changed to 'Australian citizen', I'm not sure.
@@mindi2050 no, the official date of the landing was the date of the planting of the flag
@@Steve_P_B True. The official date of the landing was the date of the hoisting of the British flag. Did I state otherwise?
The thing is we can't change history, but we have said sorry. We now respect everyone no matter what colour you are, what you believe, etc. That is what we should celebrate on Australia day, we celebrate what Australia is today.
But its such a pointless day, its the foundation of the NSW colony - not Australia. WA was founded as a separate colony, and NZ isn't even in the federation.
@@smalltime0 Australia Day is for a day of pride in our country. Stop nit picking the little things. Just be proud to be an Aussie and spend the day celebrating.
@@Kimmy58 it's the wrong day, why should the rest of us care about NSW birthday? Because we don't care
but not enough to say "yes" though
It is a NOT a day that Aboriginal/First Nations people can celebrate, as it was end of their way of life, cultural heritages & being treated as sub-human!
1st Jan 1901 Australia became the Commonwealth of Australia when we became Inderpendent from the UK.
No matter what you call it, it's about been Australian and getting a paid day off work to party.
We are All Australians, some families date back 60,000 years and some are new comers.
VEGANS ARE NOT AUSTRALIANS vegans don't eat lamb and that is unaustralian.
Apart from the "vegans aren't Australians", well put.
No matter where you live RESPECT is the main thing you should have for anyone and everyone.
Obviously the 1st colony was made up of convicts, men, women and children.
Who suffered abuse at hands of those who had them literally captive.
Not only is it commerative of the fact they slaughtered Aboriginals to be on the land, but commerative of the people hurt by being penalized for any crime and forced to leave their homes.
Definitely different from colonization of a lot of places, unfortunately the date best suited for Australia Day is January 1st but because people wouldn't get another holiday, they won't make it that.
I think the day can be used for celebration, it would just be nice if people didn't push aside valid facts and opinions because they don't want to acknowledge pain with their beer.
After almost 250 years it should be put into perspective. Okay, originally the British came and invaded the country but it was 250 years ago now and all people in Australia have the same rights and freedoms. The British helped to improve the country and built it up into a thriving economy that competes well with international trade. We have done so much for the country and that should never be ignored. My family have fought wars to protect our country and all the people here. Forgiveness for the past needs to happen on both sides. Moving forward unitedly for the good of our country and all the peoples is needed. Holding grudges against people who have long been dead is pointless. We don’t want or need division in our country. We have welcomed people from all lands to become a multicultural society which has benefited us all. I want to keep Australia Day as it has always been. We also celebrate indigenous holidays, Harmony day, national Sorry day and we are happy to include all other special occasions for indigenous peoples. We need to stand together now more than ever.
What about leaning the history of settlement & the Aboriginal peoples fighting to keep their land & died for that, do a history check about Lachlan Macquarie & the killing for country
And how would celebrating it on a different day harm that? Moving on with an inclusive fresh start on a day that doesn't have such a hurtful history?
@@carpevinum8645 to a day of no meaning you wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the English be grateful for what you have if you dotn like it go live in the nt with them in tribes without modern technology
You started with '... it should be put in perspective ..' and then gave us your perspective - and ONLY that. There are other views that are valid as well, and they won't vanish just because 'we don't want and need division'. (Who is 'we'? Obviously not everyone thinks the same)
If you don't even consider other perspectives worth mentioning, you're probably not helping to reduce a division and promote 'standing together'. You essentially just want people to be quiet about things you don't agree with.
@@AV-we6wo would you exist and be living like you were if not for the day Australia was settled? Why don't you celebrate the good in your life because it came from this moment in history
I visited Captain Cook Cottage in Melbourne during my two year work and travel trip. It was a beautiful place, I loved it. A city straight out of a picture book. Unfortunately I couldn't afford to live there, so I decided to buy a car and drove the great ocean road up to Adelaide.
It was phenomenal, beautiful paradisiacal nature, very nice people, I have never regretted the decision. Australia is the place to be Imo.
Australia Day was originally held on July 30 and was directly shaped by the historic Gallipoli landing ww1. This date was used to celebrate our heroes until 1935 until the states emerged and the date was changed to January 26th and the meaning was changed, younger generations would be unaware of this.
Cheers Mate, I was looking for this comment x
Amazes me that everyone seems to have forgotten that the day’s date has already been moved once and what that original date stood for..
Glad someone here remembers 👍🇦🇺❤
Thank you so much, I didn't know that about the July date. The 26th represents the day that the first fleet found Sydney Harbour
It was only on the 3rd march 1986 that Australia had FULL sovereignty from the UK enacted by legislation in both countries of that year.
There was no such thing as an Australian citizen until January 1st 1901.
January 6th 1788 was the start of colonisation of this continent by the British in founding New South Wales as a penal colony.
The indigenous people were nominally British but were simply treated as animals.
There were apparently no tears shed by the British aristocracy for the cruelty and viciousness perpetrated on convicts and original inhabitants alike.
Please explain again what it is we are celebrating?
NO, Australia Day was set as 26 Jan, nationally, since 1935. The day you're referring to was fundraising day's during WWI that had no connection with what we call Australia Day. The name is just a coincidence.
@@user-bf8ud9vt5b yes you are indeed correct, the date/day was initiated for fundraising.
The UK used to send convicts to the 'American colonies' but when the colonies declared their independence the UK had to find an alternative location to send their convicts. The UK erroneously claimed what is now Australia was 'Terra Nullius, meaning the land was 'empty/not owned by anyone.
It should also be noted that not all convicts sent to Australia were serious criminals, many were petty criminals, and some of these petty criminal were convicted of stealing food (for survival). Brutal times indeed for the Aborigines and the convicts.
The Europeans found it difficult to be food self sufficient so many convicts were released, the idea being they would become food self-sufficient. In order to overcome the harsh social stigma of being a convict, the concept of 'fair go' for the released convicts was established and this concept of giving everyone a 'fair go' remains strong in Australian culture to this day.
There wasn't much of a stigma of being a convict at the start because nearly everyone was a convict or child of a convict. The colony needed labour and couldn't afford to be fussy. Some ex-convicts achieved high positions like the architect Francis Greenway and some others became very wealthy and were invited to dine at Government House. The convicts were only really looked down on when the free settlers arrived and didn't want to associate with them.
still can't say woolworths!
Yeah
He gets it wrong on purpose...
yeah. like emoo...@@ianwalker5842
Yes it's always Woolsworth when he says it Ryan it is Woolworths
@@frankgourley652 He gets it wrong on purpose just to wind us up and prompt more comments...
I'm Italian-Australian, my Grandparents came here in the sixties, so I'm absolved of all this shit
My husband is the same as u, came to Australia from Italy in 1951 as a four year old. We all should be absolved of this shit, it’s about time they built a bridge and crossed it instead of forever complaining.
I don't celebrate Invasion Day. But I do have a Bundy rum, to celebrate the Rum Rebellion - which also happened on the 26th of January.
I raise a glass of rum to you, mate!
Well done, Ryan. I really admire that you are delving more deeply into Australia's history on your channel, not just sticking to cute/fluffy videos about wildlife and accents. :). Yep 26 Jan marks the anniversary of a very dark day for Indigenous people, the beginning of the end of their free lives and the illegal occupation of their countries. Very much like the USA and other colonised countries. First Nations people sadly still suffer the terrible affects of colonisation and it's a great shame on our nation. And you're right finding a better date to celebrate the modern nation of Australia is a tricky one! This year, my family & I went to a Survival Day event on the banks of the Brisbane River (Maiwar) and it was very beautiful - full of song, dance, ritual, truth-telling speeches. A respectful ceremony that brought the community together in the most peaceful way. It was poignant and uplifting. In the past we've attended Invasion Day marches in the city. You say "Australia didn't go to war" - but the First Nations did fight for their freedom; often called the "Frontier Wars" which went on for decades. A lot of that was covered up - only recently has information about those terrible events been brought to light. Certainly wasn't taught when I went to school. Happy arvo to you. (You know I only say that now, because you started it! LOL)
we love you ryan ,cause you care x
Australia as a nation did not exist until 1 January 1901 when the colonies became the federated states and territories of the Commonwealth of Australia , but we already have a public holiday for New Years Day, so no-one wants 1 Jan as the day. Or we could go with 3 March as that is basically Australian Independence Day. But I will say this very controversial thing - Beach Cricket is the best Cricket.
It's not about any of the bad things that happened in the past, it's about all of us forgetting we have differences and remembering that we are all the same and we all are PRIVILEGED to call ourselves Australian's.
I'll also add uf your going to object to this you better come up with an alternative national public holiday that symbolises togetherness
but it will forever be brought up to dvide us and distract us so... see you next year..
then why not use a date thats more appropriate. LIke the treaty date etc. Rather than the date the british landed
@@PaulFilmer What treaty? We've never had one, which is kinda part of the problem.
@@Polyphemus. Apologies. I was thinking of when they got the rights to votes, and the referendum when they got the sme constitutional rights
Imagine if Americans celebrated Columbus Day with the energy of the 4th of July, that's Straya Day!
I would like the date changed. I don't wish to offend anyone and if that date hurts any Australians then it should be changed. Anyway, I don't need to wave a flag to celebrate Australia, I celebrate it every day I live in this beautiful, culturally diverse nation of ours.
I'm 5th generation Australian from convicts and free settlers. I don't celebrate Australia Day because of what it traditionally represents. I actually don't like alot of things the British empire did throughout the world.
Me neither (I know all the things that happened to aboriginals because the teach it in school), they should change the date to a more appropriate and meaningful day for everyone, including Aboriginals. (I'm Gen Z)
There definitely should be an "Australia day" to celebrate what an amazing country we live in, just pick any other day. (side note Austarlia was moved to the 26th of Jan its been celebrated in the past on other days)
Why? Why change the date? there's nothing offensive about it being 26, let alone it being a date to celebrate
@@AURON2401 What you do mean nothing offensive?!?!? My background is Polish and if the day the nazis invaded warsaw was celebrated id be pretty annoyed.
it doesnt hurt anyone to change the date and it would mean a lot to first nations, lets celebrate on a date that everyone feels included. why wouldnt you want that?
No. The left will always be offended. We will never give them an inch ever again. Our culture matters.
There will never be a alternative date that people agree with, it's not the date it's the concept that the mininority dislike.
@Cserediak The mind-numbing whining about the date means we will never accept a change to it. It's being raised by people with ulterior motives to wreck our country. This is just another step towards that. The left must be opposed, not appeased.
And didn't the Soviets invade Poland on the same day the Nazis did? Molitov-Ribbentrop Pact? It's the commies pushing to change the date. Why trust them?
The 60000 years is subjective, to say the least!
They walked or paddled there from asia
Yes, every single Australian is Australian and also we are all immigrants! It's our special day of joy and celebration!
For Americans, think Colombus Day.
Ryan, Australia Day celebrates the founding of the 1st settlement of Australia. The 1st of Jan 1901 is our actual Independence Day, as it's when the 6 colonies Federated into 1 Nation.
Btw, we sort of did try to fight for our Independence. It's called the Eureka Stockade, and here's a video I found that you could react to if you want:
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Of course we don't call it independence day, it's Federation day.
We have some nice 50 cent coins from 2001 to commemorate the centenary of Federation.
@berranari1 I know it's called Federation Day, but let me remind you that I'm trying to explain it to someone whose country didn't become independent through diplomacy!
@@legohistorytube.3148 Sheesh, I not stopping you pal.
@@legohistorytube.3148 He's American, that doesn't automatically make him be an imbecile. You have some preconceived opinion, which is wrong. 😂
As a student of history, I feel that we need to learn from history, not hide from it OR deny it, and try do to better. As an Australian of British ancestry, I openly acknowledge the part British colonialism played in our history (both bad AND good), but also accept that some people and groups have issues with Australia Day being 26th January.
If, at some point a referendum decides to shift the date, I'd have no problem with that. If asked, I'd seriously suggest New Year's Day. Reason one being we are one of the first countries to celebrate New Year. Reason two being 1st January, 1901 is when Federation came into being here in Australia.
Some have suggested Anzac Day as the new Australia Day. I vehemently oppose this. 25th April is for memorializing our war dead, and should be kept as such.
No Ryan your reaction was beautiful. The pain in your face when you found out what happened was so caring. You said nothing wrong and only agreed with most Australians who would love to change the date to encompass all Australians who would like to celebrate this beautiful country of ours. Thanks for all your video's. You are a very sensitive and warm human being.
Which Australians? If you are so enthused, you can personally give up your birthday and personality pay the millions of dollars required to pay all the costs of any change! There is no logical reason to change this day, and noone will ever agree on an alternative date - remember we just paid over $420 million for that farce of another hundreds of voices campaign!🤨
Minorities want to change the date
As a descendant of first fleet, the attempts to demonise those who had no choice being forced in chains on this journey, caged, used as slaves and now with the "reimagining" of history those ignorant say they're colonisers is ridiculous and offensive. Moving the day only sets to create an ignorant fake history of events.
Just change the date. Australia day hasn't always been on the 26th. It's been changed before and we should change it again.
I think most Aussies would be okay with changing the date. But we still want an actual Australia Day to celebrate. Jan 26 has probably endured cos it's a public holiday in summer, changing the date to March or June means we would miss out on a nice summer day to celebrate...
No, we won't be OK with it. Speak for yourself. We don't kowtow to the permanently offended leftists anymore. Never again. Not one inch.
As a non-indigenous Australian. Firstly please watch the Rabbit Proof Fence.
Secondly we had a very large march this year from Sydney Town Hall to Victoria Park (Yabun Festival).
We appreciate our elders and the traditional custodians of the land. Throughout school we learn how badly we treated the indigenous Australians so we all understand and respect them
Also P.S. Just last year or maybe 2 years ago there was a big petition to change the date to May 8. Because it sounds like mate when you say it. And its absolutely abhorrent that you didn't believe we went to war. Australians have never lost a battle and have fought alongside the UK and US in every single war.
A couple of points not mentioned in the video that are relevant:
- “Australia Day” was only made a public holiday in 1994, by a conservative government as a deliberate act of “culture war”
- Up until that time the day was almost exclusively observed as a day of mourning by Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities
- “Australia Day” does not commemorate the “founding of Australia”, but the “founding of New South Wales” - if it is to be a “founding day” it is the founding day of one of the states, not the country
- The least racist arguments against changing the date to one that could be observed and enjoyed by all Australians ultimately boil down to “this pisses off the 35% of Australians I enjoy pissing off”, and go downhill extremely quickly from there
All this is why the day is both controversial, and why no country in the world has a less popular “national day” than Australia - but I suppose that is inevitable when your day is established specifically to insult and offend a large section of the country.
January 26 1788, was the day the stone age ended on the continent of Australia. Some might not like that, but it is our history.
Every country on the planet has an unhappy history, but history is the reason why all of us are here today.
Australia day is celebrated on 26th January.
On that day in 1788 the British flag was raised at Sydney cove, founding a penal colony called, New South Wales. (Wrong)
Contrary to popular belief, the British flag was not officially planted UNTIL 7 February 1788 when possession was formally proclaimed.
America celebrates their National day when they got their independence from Great Britain, as do most other countries celebrate shaking off the ties of their colonial masters.
AUSTRAIA, prefers to celebrate the day the country that WASN'T called Australia, became a prison colony.
This land was NOT called Australia until 1824. The only place called Australia was Antarctica. It was known by most countries as, New Holland with the English referring to all the eastern half as, New South Wales.
It included New Zealand as well.
Always will be Australia Day. I don’t care if they call it invasion day I’ll still celebrate it
That's because you are either ignorant to Australia's true history and culture or a heartless racist.
I'm in the March 3 camp for the new Australia Day. The current date was set by Paul Keating in 1994 a whole 8 years after the Australia act. January 26 really only makes sense as a day for Sydney and NSW. The ratification date of the Australia Act 1986 is a much more inclusive date for all Australians. Australia needs to celebrate its full independence
Australia day has been becoming more and more controversial over at least the last years perhaps more. It's a day of distaste for the indigenous people of Australia, January 26 is actually foundation day for NSW. Has a lot less to no meaning for mostly of Australia.
Australia was called nsw why is this so hard for people to understand the generation is getting so stupid
@michaelrogers2080 Yes, and Western Australia was never part of it. Also, the colony of South Australia was never part of the colony of New South Wales, though it was in territory that had been.
We could celebrate Jan 26 as the day that settlors and indigenous people started living on the land together - “together day”. Or one side could call it “invasion day” and paint the entire collaboration in building the nation as something they wish never happened. Mmmmm
It is what it is!! We all just want to get along. It’s the media that have put the shine on this.
Really?? The same media who cry foul every time someone has the audacity to suggest that maybe, just maybe, it's not the best date for a unifying national celebration? That media?
Everybody should be treated equally.
If you need something from the Australian Government - everyone should get the same.
Cook went to Tahiti to observe the transit of Venus. After that his task was to explore the Southern Pacific and that is how he went to the East Coast.
Yes, I was going to say that. Also, he confirmed that NZ was two islands (separated by Cook Strait) and what we're named the Cook Islands were among his "discoveries".
Historians say that they were interested in exploring Australia and they used the transit of Venus as an excuse.
Either way, I am impressed by them travelling so far to look at the planet Venus transiting or any astronomical event.
The reason why they may have pretended to focus on the astronomy is because of the rivalry with the French.
Also they didn't want the French to think they were invading the French Pacific islands like Tahiti.
So it was a good idea for them to be a scientific expedition.
@@berranari1 it's no mystery, that's exactly what happened. Cook had secret orders to be opened after observing transit of Venus in Tahiti, to search for the South Land. They didn't want to let the French in on it. This has always been known, it's not a new theory... It didn't stop La Perouse though, who was a tad late to the party and was never seen again.
@@paulhunt3307 okay thanks for agreeing with me, but it sounded like you were arguing something. You said that there was a "secret" order but you say that there is nothing new. At some point in time the secret came out and it was not taught in class when I was in school. So that's why I think it might be new information to some people.
@@paulhunt3307 It's no mystery, but it was a secret.
🤔 Umm, what the...?
It would be fair to say that (except for ~6 countries) almost every nation has been invaded, conquered, colonized or experienced civil war and in just about every case the minorities have been displaced, enslaved, captured or killed. There have been unexpected deaths due to disease, lack of resources and feuding between tribes/groups (on both sides), etc.
Australia has celebrated a range of dates when it comes to our national identity and (European) settlement: 30 July 1915 was our first "official national day" which was used to raise funds for WW1. in 1916 that date was changed to 28 July by the "Australia Day" committee.
Before 1888, 26 Jan was celebrated in NSW & they called it "Anniversary Day". Hobart has been celebrating 1 Dec as "Regatta Day" since 1838 aligning with their discovery by Abel Tasman in 1642.
WA has celebrated 1 June (previously the 1st Monday in June) as a commemoration of the "Swan River Colony" being founded in 1829. SA has celebrated "Proclamation Day" on 28 Dec since 1836 after becoming a British Province.
26 Jan "Australia Day" has been celebrated by all states since 1935 & in 1946 the Commonwealth + State governments agreed to unify all these celebrations and create a single public holiday.
In Nov 2021 5,000 people were polled about keeping or changing this date & over 60% wanted this to remain. About ~53% of millennials are driving the push for changing this date.
Whilst we celebrate "Australia Day" as our main national holiday once a year, we have 10 dates annually to recognize our indigenous people:
13 Feb - National Apology Day, 19 Mar Close the Gap Day, 21 Mar Harmony Day, 26 May National Sorry Day, 27 May Reconciliation Week, 3 Jun MABO Day, 1st week of July NAIDOC Week, 4 Aug National Aboriginal Children's Day, 9 Aug International Day of Worlds Indigenous People and 5 Sep Indigenous Literacy Day.
So where does that leave you if you are not from a European ancestry and you aren't from an Indigenous bloodline? What if you were born here and several generations of your family started here? What about those of mixed family backgrounds?