Drama From The Dynamic Discs Open Disc Golf Tournament
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- Опубліковано 14 чер 2024
- With the Dynamic Discs Open crowning new champions there is so much to talk about from OB drama, basket issues, and SO MUCH MORE. Don't worry Swiss and Jefferson have you covered breaking down everything disc golf you need to know from the DDO
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Video editing suggestion... I appreciate how much work you go through getting the different social media screenshots but when it's a longer post please leave it on the screen longer so we have a chance to read or at least skim it.
You can pause the video, read it, and then resume the video. 🤙🏼
@@SOUNDINTHECITYtrue but then would be pausing a shit ton lol
@@SOUNDINTHECITYIt isn't like they're showing quality b roll over the screenshots, it's all shots we've seen before.
Most of us have already read the posts as these videos are merely recaps of things people have already posted online.
Why do we expect crowds for a terrible, ugly course in the middle of nowhere?
Let’s nag about our favorite sport.
You just have free admission. You are going to make your money back with disc sales. And concessions
I don’t agree with the negativity about the Emporia course. It is far from a Hyzer only course. Accuracy is paramount on that course otherwise you wouldn’t be seeing the best in the game bleeding OB. Hole 16 is an outright icon and the spectator experience is very good there. You don’t know how tight nine is until you see it in person.
If you look at Emily Weatherman's disc , it IS NOT 100% surrounded by OB and cost her a chance at the 3 way tie . I guess since IT was on her card and only 1 stroke back , of course IT is gonna say OB . And karma made IT miss their putt on 18 . Total Bullsh** .
Even if not, it was too close to call and therefore goes to her benefit.
Thats not the rule at all. The "benefit goes to her" if the card is tied 2-2 on the call. They werent, all 3 of them (and Terri Miller, who was at the disc before anyone, btw) agreed it was OB.
If you cant execute a 200ft layup on a 50+ foot wide fairway, you probably weren't winning the tourney
Yes that is the rule . Disc has to be 100% surrounded by OB to be considered OB . I think you need to read the rules .
General admission should be free until the desired crowd size is achieved. Once you have sufficient attendance then you can start charging people nominal fees to view whether we want to admit it or not a "novelty sport".
Make your money off swag. Have more vendors and charge those vendors for access.
Remember how the rappers take over happened in the 90's? Soon we will start seeing the DG players flashing illuminati hand signals and black eyes. It's a matter of time until they are subverted.
So nice of you to tell us how to run a business. 😅
@@michaelmaniloff9297 someone needed to because it obviously doesn't seem like you know how.
@rossderer6154 telling a company to just make it free is about the most lazy thing you can do. Congrats.
Nice of you to throw the small vendors under the bus though. I'm sure they're looking forward to paying more in up front prices, while the tour events haven't proven they can draw a crowd for them.
There's drama every week guys, come on. Is that the only thing you guys feed off of?
Yeah it's very forced.
Yeah . Just Drew complaining about something different. But ya it is there job to give us entertainment
Driving "engagement"
Their commentary isn't really that inflammatory or outrageous, it's just a title.
People do love drama. Even if it’s from disc golf
blaming anything other than your stroke is wild.
Precisely. This is not a debate. Finesse. Touch. These are every bit as important in a professional athlete's arsenal as anything else. Real tired of this non-issue being brought up. Uli was spot on in the practice round and everywhere else he has touched on it. Stop pretending it's the basket's fault you've been playing on since literally ever.
And if one person makes a comment to me about "not reading all that" then you are another issue I can touch on later 😉
Thanks for continuing to put out this content while also on the road. It absorbs more time than anyone knows… I do think your patreon list is missing a name though. I was in the screen but since been removed or skipped over :).
Simple ruling to the OB debate: there were clearly attached, white-marked blades of grass on the in-bounds side of the disc. So, while in-bounds blades of grass may have indeed been touching the disc, it is trumped by the initial rule that there was also a portion of the OB-marked line between the disc and in-bounds. Correct call was made.
If you believe the baskets are substantially different, you simply cannot putt.
I enjoyed the coverage
I appreciate the recap. This is one tournament on the schedule I don't feel compelled to watch, but still like to know anything that happened. Looks like some poor sportsmanship in FPO.
MPO was pretty intense between Ricky and Calvin at the end.
Aggregate playoff works for this course, specifically because hole 16 basically ends a sudden death playoff if only one person makes the island..
If we have marshals for each card, it needs to be determined what they can do.. determine OB, timing violations, warnings, strokes? Can they issue a course ruling, something the TD does usually? Who provides them? The PDGA, DGPT, or event? How do you assure consistency? Also, while that may be better than the competition policing itself, everyone would then complain about the 'refs.' As long as we don't go to ball golf's "anyone watching can call in a rule violation" bs, I'm fine with it.
It was in Emporia, KS which is like 2.5 hours outside of KC. I would’ve liked to go as it’s for sure the closest tournament but just couldn’t make it work. Also that town is pretty small, so I wouldn’t expect a large turn out too often.
My take on the baskets in disc golf, is that they should have a standard for its exact dimensions and materials. The NBA has exact dimensions and materials for backboards and hoops. They go as far as saying the thread count for the net material. Disc golf should have a regulation basket that is used for all competitions. That would eliminate most all complaints.
I'm from Jersey, and the closest pro tour event to me is Massachusetts. The cost to go for a group of friends for the weekend would be $2500 just in lodging and travel. Better distribution of locations should be a priority. Maybe change out some of those "ugly" courses for some different ones is starved areas.
Lower ticket prices get way more customers which equals making way more$$$
Officials cost money, and a "professional" sport that relies on hundreds of volunteers each week, doesn't have extra cash lying around to foot that bill. Disc golf is way more entertaining to play than watch. . .
air quotes "professional sport" living in a van down by the river
PGA uses volunteers. Heavily. Including many marshals who make rulings.
@newbie6633 The two sports are on completely different levels. When's the last time you paid to play a round of disc golf? Edgewood at Lake Tahoe, a pro am golf course $250 daily rate. . . Professional sports have Professional facilities. . . How much of the tour is even played at dedicated full time courses? This current management is incapable of getting Disc golf anywhere near Professional level. To much greed not enough investment.
@@Davedoesthat
Two weeks ago,Trey Ranch, Mt Vernon TX, $10/round, designed by Houck.
@PhilipPedro2112 looks like a great course.
Pease, and I cannot state this enough, STFU about baskets. Standardize them and you'll still have spit outs.
Drama, Drama, Drama ..... guess it's time to tune out.
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To me, it seems like the cheapest and easiest way to handle situations like weatherman's is if the players decide not on the ruling, but on a representative photograph or two, which is submitted to an official for a ruling. Meanwhile, a provisional would be played, and the players would assume the most beneficial outcome until official ruling. I know there are rules against video evidence, and maybe picture evidence as well, but maybe those are a bit antiquated when everyone has phones with decent cameras these days. After all, other professional sports consult footage for rulings all the time.
The playoff on the fpo could be a big problem in the future since the mpo is right on thei heals. Could really affect the mpo side in a big way.
Look at Australia and New Zealand. They have standardized baskets. The US pros who played there rave about those baskets. I'll keep harping on standardizing our baskets. PDGA should revise their tech specs and make everyone conform.
They're probably starting to clear all the tents off the courses in Oregon 🤣
Aggregate Play-off is something I wanted to see forever because Disc Golf can be lucky at times so having a couple holes to prove yourself compared to one lucky shot is great! Then going to sudden death is great because you still had one more chance to take it without luck.
It really is crazy to charge for admission. Both times I went to events I volunteered which got me free admission the rest of the event. So you can imagine that half the fans there are free anyway.
I would love to see the numbers on admission and can a few G's really be worth it when they're missing out on a few G's in concession sales?
These events should be packed with fun things for kids to do and every manufacturer there with tents full of discs to buy.
What does the money go to anyway? 99% of the workers aren't getting paid and disc golf has always been a labor of love.
The only why elite series tourneys should charge admission is if the previous year was way too packed and they need a way to turn ppl away.
When I see new disc golf content but its from the disc golf world
No mention of Cole Redalen peacing out after 15 holes on Sunday??? C'mon!
The baskets used are based on which disc manufacturer is sponsoring the event. Every company has their own baskets to sell so they want those used at the events they sponsor. It has been this way since the beginning of disc golf.
Don’t lump emporia in with all of Kansas. We have non eMac courses. I promise
What does eMac mean? Genuine question!
@@JustinWayneDawg world champ eric mccabe=emac
You say this like he didn't design Black Hoof and Black Hoof isn't objectively excellent.
lol like I had anything to do with the terrain out at ECC😂 that course is good for the variables forced to work with. To your point, Don’t lump all EMac courses on judgement of this one. 👍
What’s the population of disc golfers within driving distance of the tournament? If you want spectators to show up, maybe get some stats as to where they are to begin with.
No mention of the other 2 foot faults called on the same hole. FPO Ryan and I don't remember who did the second one. When I watched Ryan's throw I was like that's a foot fault. Only to find out later it was called, then the second one happens.
Don't worry LVC is this week. We are ready to party in Vegas!
1. Officiating will not stop controversies. If a referee is forced to make a call in Emily's situation it would still be controversial. Hokom's comment may apply to different referees as well, not only different players on the card. You which sport has the most controversies? Football (soccer for the Americans) and it has plenty of referees and Video Assistance, when the call is that close it will always be a hot topic. I'm sure we will see more of Emily in the future. And player referees is a huge asset to the sport and needs to be protected.
2. King's foofault call should be called out. We want players making the calls, but we don't want them making fake calls and this was one. There is no hipocrisy here.
Every damn tournament... more and more click bait. There is a point in which you are hurting the sport for your own advancement. Let the sport grow... take a step back sometimes.
Is it $20 per round? Because $20 is dirt cheap if it’s for event.
why not do stuff like drawings where the winner each day gets a disc signed by the feature/lead card. just lower ticket prices and add small fun events that don't hinder the tournament.
You paid to watch 2019 worlds? lol I didn’t even know I was supposed to pay. I just walked up to hole ones tee pad on the final round
Man I want to support the FPO just Cz I love disc golf and want it to grow in all its forms. But it’s kinda tough to watch most of the time. They’re just not a as good and the awesome shots are rare. Can something be done to help spice it up with out drama to do it? Or am I the problem 😅😅
No, and ty for the rare honesty. FPO is brutal it's just these dudes don't wanna ruffle feathers in this day and age
do you watch the nba or wnba? they ARE women and it is to be expected they aren't going to shoot 1000 rated rounds every time..i have a hard time watching the women play as well, so i rarely do
If King made a good FF call, we'd have her back. Where were the calls earlier? Why was it called late and timidly?
Cus she was desperate
Yeah I was very disappointed in her. It was so clear there was no FF.
I think consistency in how baskets and chains hang makes sense.How about showing whole 1st hole not just see players throw and never see result.DGPT free but not worth watching.
It would be nice to hear a bit less negativity from the commentators. In the past their content has been down right funny at times. Now you can tell the bias they have for and against certain players...
Kansas City, MO > 90 min. Topeka, KS > 60 min. Wichita, KS > 80 min. The reason KC people (a MECHA of DG) aren't coming to DDO is the price, not the distance.
Charge for VIP, free everything else.
Exhausted
it will never be FPO with a man competing!
DDO lost something when it dropped the GBO name. Personally, I thought the Peter Pan and the Jones east west courses made for more interesting disc golf... I don't remember the name but the one that was built all the way around a lake was fun to watch also... I also think it went to crap when Doug stepped down as the TD...
$20 a day doesn't seem unreasonable at all to watch the best players in the world throw down. If it was near me I'd definitely being going.
Personally ive played alot of courses with alot of different brand baskets, i feel the DD Veterans basket is actually a decent made basket and love the sound it makes when a putt is made correctly on it. The absolutely best made basket in my opinion, which you dont hear alot of complaints on is the Discraft Pro Chainstar basket. Here in California we have alot of Innova baskets which in my opinion are the absolute worst designed and made baksets installed today. Its the only basket with a 4" top band with the distracting Bright school bus yellow color, and the basket has the tubing going out to inside the basket and when you pull your disc it always catches on the metal hook. The Discraft Pro Chainstar and the DGA Mach 5,7 and x Should be the standard for the pro tour. Both baskets are well made and have the least spit outs. The Innova, prodigy,DD ,baskets are a solid intermediate basket. Ive Never played a course with the Rpm,Mvp, Latitude 64,GTS Baskets so i cant comment on those. In my opinion there should only be 1 basket on tour but the current basket size regulations should be modified, with a slightly smaller Basket top band,target area and specific Materials for construction. A basket that takes nothing but actual skill to sink the putt and take out Complete Dumb luck to make. The sport will not progress unless the targets, tees, rules, discs and players calibers can Progress and make certain aspects of the sport more difficult. Alot of work has to be done in every aspect of the game to elevate the sport to the highest level possible and to keep the game up with the current times.The Pdga needs younger fresh faces and management to keep up with the evolution of the game and needs to be 50/50 and collaborative with the DGPT and the players to obtain the best possible outcome and best interest for the sport. #1 should be keeping the players snd members happy not to line there pockets.
I feel like it woulda been pretty easy to determine if Weatherman was in bounds. Don't have unnatural O.B. Don't use stupid ball golf courses where you have to paint lines everywhere. OB shouldn't exist unless you are in water or a street. If the property is so bland that you have to paint OB everywhere then don't build a disc golf course there. O.B. should be natural, not manufactured.
Love rhe aggregate playoff. Dg is a flukey sport.
Nothing about the DNF walk off?
In circles
Entire...etee
Look at golf they call them stadium courses.
Otb is $75 bucks. Way tooo much!
Supposedly top players going 5/13 and 7/13 from inside c1 is astonishingly bad. 🤢
Royal Rage II is NOT better than the Royal Rage. 🦁
Costco
The PDGA has ALWAYS had money problems. Hell, the first Datsun car given away by them ...they made the 'Tournament Winner' make the car payments. Ed almost sold it multiple times. Those of us who don't play disc golf for fame and money think the sport becoming about fame and money ...well let's just say you don't make the rules and let me catch you shutting down courses without the city permits and damaging the land. You'll be the one leaving, in the back of a squad car. Especially Kyle and Kyle! Welcome to the schism.
are you referring to the datsun given away at the rfdo in '74? that was before there WAS a pdga
Hello boys! I hope this reaches you.
As much as I love, and watch all of your content,…. Dudes!,… ya gotta leave the posts up long enough for us to read them! Speaking only for myself here,… I am CONSTANTLY pausing and rewinding so I can actually read the screen. Then the flow of the videos is all chopped up.
Just sayin
Pacted
Soooo Heidi is the #9 player in FPO…. Who is #10? I guess she won’t get recognized as such, because the system is busted.
Pretty boring course ...looked like throwing a disc on a soccer field at times...
Walking
It's not the whorst
Costs too much to walk around a field and you dont really know what you really get to see or not see (horrible explanation of VIP vs General). Block party is free and saw 30+ pros up close.
If I had a full day to dedicate to watching I would have paid, but in my case it would have been 2 hours tops and not worth it.
Pros are not intelligent enough to understand how to assemble a basket
Emily weatherman got screwed. Fpo golf is kind of boring. It seems like when kristin is playing, the golf is just better.
This course has been to most boring course on tour to watch since its inception.
I did not like Jeremy Koling at all on commentary. Him and Ian are a horrible duo, Isn has no control or authority to keep things properly on track. Jeremy tries way too hard to be class clown and laugh at his own jokes 24/7. He needs to stay on Jomez, we need professional commentary like Charlie I and Sexton, even Doss.
Do you guys ever make positive content or is every video you guys complaining about something?
Dumb
$10 max might be a fair spectator fee if they have vendors and Tattar at the event.
Due to Bidenomics I can barely spare that.
Yeah it's like these guys don't recognize we're literally in a depression.
Right. I drive the 6+ hours last year but this year it's just not happening. Saving up for NC I hope
Ten bucks a for a day blows your budget? We're talking burger and fries frm Sonic.
@@JustinWayneDawg
Literally not
@@PhilipPedro2112 you know nothing
Boring
lmao they used to just let fans spectate. Now tho they cant get anyone to buy that trash.
You can cry all you want about something like standard baskets but you don't have them so what's the point . To me I see a pro athleat as some one who has a plan for ALL ASPECS of their game. Not cry on x because they haven't hit podium in awhile.