Our economy is struggling with uncertainties, housing issues, foreclosures, global fluctuations, and the pandemic aftermath, causing instability. Rising inflation, sluggish growth, and trade disruptions need urgent attention from all sectors to restore stability and stimulate growth.
With my demanding job, I lack time for investment analysis. For seven years, a fiduciary has managed my portfolio, adapting to market conditions, enabling successful navigation and informed decisions. Consider a similar approach.
The conservative party failed to govern for over 14 years now. Housing has slumped and prices are put off controll. Investment is services like fire and police has been cut for years. UK has less police officers then in 2010 despite having millions more living here
Who do you blame, the Tories? all politicians? Blame the people who enabled them, voted for them, the British public. You get the government you deserve.
It also means that people will stay for longer in the UK because of the effort and cost it takes to get a visa, so we have more permanent residents and less temporary ones
I think you should also include lots of temporary EU workers that had no wish to stay in the UK but only filled the work roles that they now get people from African countries and India to do
Nurses are paid 18% less then in 2009. Junior doctors are getting 30% less then in 2009. NHS spending has been far below Inflation. Knees, hips, eyes - what tops the waiting list? Jane is not alone. Nearly 800,000 people require hip, knee and joint-related orthopaedic treatments. Close to half of them have been waiting longer than 18 weeks, which is not just the target waiting time but supposedly a patient right, written into the NHS Constitution.
That’s insanity! If nurses and doctors are getting paid less with added current inflation over time then how are less skilled careers doing? UK is just completely destroyed!
0:23 There you have it. Mask off moment. Been saying this for years, a bigger economy just means more profits and fat dividends for the asset owning classes. For you it means bigger queues for a doctor or more sewage in the rivers. We need to get away from this "good for economy = good" paradigm. When the economy is set up to benefit only a very small number of people it has no relevance.
If we kicked out all the immigrants, I don't think I'd ever get to see a GP. In my practice they are nearly all immigrants or second generation Brits and I'm very thankful for them.
I am an immigrant to UK since 2007, of course legally through work visa. We are entitled to permanent residency after 5 years of continuous tax payment without claiming public benefit, then 7th year to be neutralised to British Citizen. We did so, and I settled with my partner, also came via work visa, same route to settle down. We have two kids here, apart from very occasional NHS consultation, two child birth in hospital, and some child benefit, we claimed no other benefits, and had always been paying tax, high tax band, for so many years. I am confident to say I did much more contribution to the UK economy than claiming benefit. Please differentiate illegal immigrant and legal immigrants, please also differentiate immigrants who are working hard and pay for the country to those who are not. Big talk of all walks of immigration problems will not improve things but arouse hatred, fuel nationalism against us! This was how Brexit happened. There was a reason UK chose to open to immigrants in The beginning. That was agreed to have benefit. How things went wrong afterwards was caused by collective factors, bad immigrantion policies, poor education of British schools that can not met the demand of UK’s economy and technological development, wrong decision of Brexit that lead to lose of investment and business then caused loss of national tax and increase of costing of living, involvement and support in major wars, increased US federal interest rates hugely increased the financial cost of UK government , plus the pandemic expenditures, etc. I think the legacy of British empire, common wealth countries immigration policies formed the foundation of the population demographic in Britain today.
moved to Bristol with my family from Devon when I was 15, started work at 17 and was able to rent somewhere within 3 miles of my family in 2005. 2020 priced out of Bristol to Newport South Wales, 2023 priced out of Newport and moved to Liverpool. Bristol has two universities, both of which have swallowed up entire quarters of the city centre with new build international student luxury apartments. Outside the city centre entire residential districts like Brislington and Fishponds are bought up for student houses. locals cant live near their families and some like myself are being pushed out of the south west entirely to the north west
The analysis argues: Large-scale migration has not delivered significant growth in GDP per capita, and has increased the strain on our capital stock, from roads and GP surgeries to housing. as per the center for policy studies. GDP is a poor measure for growth even if it is nominal or real. You can get nominal growth in GDP via inflation. The real GDP growth relies on real necessities being part of the inflation index. So lets elaborate, you hear people talk about the bank of england should reduce interest rates so mortgages get cheaper. The reality is CPI doesnt include mortgages. So they can inflate house prices and that would not show up in the CPI. There are other indexes such as the Core CPI which is not looking so good for the UK. The reality is, the UK has been run badly for decades, and the electorate will do well to be more synical of the politicians that they elect.
The average wage is 38K a year. There's a deficit. You need to have a tax code above 38K a year in order to be a net contributor. How many migrants do that? How does a non working migrant do that? In other words migration of low paid workers is part of the destruction of the UK economy.
@@m0o0n0i0r Correct. So what's the solution. Two parts. Asylum, and economic migrants. 1. No discrimination. No pro White EU racism for example. 2. Net contributors only. 3. You get a minimum tax code of 38,500 (average wage) a year, increasing in line with average wages. 4. No welfare for economic migrants. No housing benefit, income support.... 5. Remember, they came here for economic reasons. If its not economic for them they will leave. 6. No public sector jobs. No Public Sector worker generates any tax revenue.
Suggest you look at the demographics of the UK and consider who will be paying for the pensions in 20 years time; if you don't have enough workers you end up like Japan
@@Boghopper9999 Where are we all going to live in 20 years time if we keep going down this same path? Salaries are stagnent, cost of living is high, buying a house is already out of reach for many...
We've had a real life experiment in stopping immigration: the end of EU free movement in 2020. Did we see millions of Leave voters showing up for wor? Did we f*c. All that happened is massive staff shortages across the board, because the UK doesn't have enough people able or willing to work
@@adam7802you can build more houses; you can't magic up money for pensions if there are not enough workers paying taxes. Seriously, go look at the demographics. The UK needs more young people to work or else everyone is going to have to work lots more years if they can, or live in poverty if they cant
The reason we have immigration at all is because people aren’t having enough children. Our ageing population has created a demographic imbalance. There is a direct correlation between increasing house prices and decreasing birth rates. To find the solution, the formula has to be rearranged. It really is as simple as that.
Completely untrue and economically illeterate. How does having less demand (decreasing birth rates = decreasing population) cause prices to go down? Just look up Japanese house prices since 1990 and their birth rates.
The only reason we have immigration is because businesses need them and bankers need a housing shortage so they can lend huge sums of money to buy them.
it's funny this argument though with very little considered for the actual figure required. 650K net each year has staggering kick on affects in 20 years when you need 1 million to look after that aging addition. Not suggesting you don't know that but just see that kicked around a lot with no actual figure known.
go on any university's website, choose any course, compare the fees between UK, EEA and international student. Compare the difference in fees and you will no longer start liking Reform, unless of course you have got a private school education and are happy for more Brits to be illiterate
Domestic students fees dont acually cover the cost for a university atm.. universities are literally only kept afloat more or less by international students
Many universities send teams on world tours to get more international students upon whom they crucially rely on for funding. Many people in the UK feel that tax money spent on unis means people who don't want go to unis are having to subsidise people who do and it isn't fair.
The UK economy is so weak because people can't afford anything anymore. Goods and food have become far more expensive. Housing is insanely unaffordable. UK politics have failed british people.
The old mutuals tied mortgages to wages, and house prices had to reflect what people could borrow . Then Thatcher persuaded them to become banks, and they lent too much..
It's incredibly important to the economy, culture, & it's standing in the world. Legal skilled immigrants should have an easier time in the system & settling not be made to have it harder. Students should not even be counted as immigrants & should be removed from net migration statistics. Family unification should be a human right & there should be no MIR for spouses! Placing MIR also has a massive negative affect on British citizens who are in relationships with foreigners! Scapegoating immigrants also doesn't help with anything & shows extreme weakness. Trying to be cruel to asylum seekers won't stop them from coming either b/c schemes like the rwanda policy doesn't get to the root of the problem which is instability in their home countries.
Who's scapegoating the individuals? It's one of the biggest misconceptions of our time, meaning we keep ignoring the problem. Immigration = good. Mass immigration = bad. The system is the problem, not the people using it. We need to stop personalising this as it's simply about numbers
So what you're saying is we should brush the issue of high immigration under a rug and pretend it isn't happening? Well if you want to ensure Farrage is PM in the future you keep preaching that.
@@DilbertWhitehead birthrate has fallen & population has been aging. The youth population & working age population of today is actually the same size as it was 10 years ago whilst the elderly population has actually grown. Immigration has just kept the youth & working age population the same. Without more immigration there would be much more pressure on thw working age population. There are ways to go about having more control over the numbers of people coming over whilst rewarding those who legally pay their way through & make it fair for those with immediate family abroad (spouse & children under 18). What needs to be done is sort out the NHS (much of the workforce is migrants) & build more houses! (Shortage of workers here). There are also job vaccancies of over 900k & due to brexit many workers haven't been coming so they need to come from outside.
@@Lando-kx6so do you honestly think that every country in the western world (as we're all living longer) needs an unlimited supply of migration to look after their elderly? Can you not see how flawed that is as a concept?
@@adam7802 exactly this. They just don't get it do they, and they just won't listen. Which is why we had Brexit, why we've had a Tory government for so long, and why the right are rising all over the western world and will continue to do so until this failed experiment is stopped
Channel 4 recently did a video of a new immigrant (who didn't work) complaining that her benefit wasn't enough for her and her child. What do you think?
@@keepgoing7533 mostly old people and the unemployable. Immigrants are the only ones actually keeping the economy running, as has become obvious since Brexit
The housing market has been screwed for 15 years, wages havent risen in line with house prices.no new council houses and hardly any affordale housing created. Visa'd immigration is very high but the changes in university fees has made them the UKs latest money maker. We need houses, rent is crazy everywhere.
If the international students are working in UK, then the money that they spend on fees and living expenses is NOT export income. Some even send money back to their home countries, draining the UK economy.
Forget the economy, the social cost is unbelievably high, and that's what liberals will never understand until they themselves have to live in some of these highly diverse areas.
A lot of people voting for Brexit were from Asian backgrounds, because European immigration they couldn't bring so many people from their original countries, Brexit did open the borders for them.
Yep. I remember it being said during the campaign that EU membership unfairly penalised those outside the EU and once outside all those Leavers would welcome people from the commonwealth and beyond - so long as we were in control. Don’t hear much of that now!
@@allykhan8594 That wont happen when unskilled/ no skilled workers flood in looking to work for below minimum wage.... mass migration is a tool for the rich to keep themselves rich at the expense of everyone else.
Pay higher taxes and national insurance or open the NHS for private investment to keep the quality high. You cannot promise tax cuts and promise free health services. An illustration, Norway has a free and good health service but the citizens pay more than 62% in taxes. In the Netherlands, it is a hybrid where both public and private money is being used to stimulate innovation and progress but also to keep it affordable. The US is an example where privatisation has gone through the roof. To pay for public services, a government has only three options: raise taxes, make cuts, or borrow money.
In the Netherlands a government committee calculated that 'Non-Western' immigration is a net COST over the life of the immigrant. That is after deducting cost of education, healthcare housing etc. etc. from the 'net production' (taxes) of the immigrant. of course there are exeptions to the rule in the positive ánd negative!
NHS backlog and waiting lists There are 640,000 waiting to see eye specialists - many will have declining eyesight with its obvious consequences on their daily lives - and there are more than 500,000 waiting for gynaecological care and another 500,000 waiting for ear, nose and throat (ENT) treatments. Even in emergency deparments people are waiting 8 or 10 hours.
The media is overtly framing the immigration issue in economic terms, and ruthlessly avoiding discussion about culture. Small numbers of migrants can be integrated into British culture, and can be enriching. Mass migration creates enclaves, segregated communities, and low trust. A British Asian in London, Harrow (45% Asian) will face less pressure to integrate into traditional British life than a British Asian growing up in Norfolk (0.5%).
Personally, no trouble with anyone’s skin colour. Islam is _the_ issue for me. When a critical mass is reached in this country (and anywhere else) there will be calls for Sharia Law and if Islam is in the driving seat at that point, it _will_ be enforced. Or else. We are sleepwalking into a not-too-distant disaster.
@@YA-hm5zyWake up, m8. By 2050 the UK is projected to be 17% Islamic. Sweden, astonishingly, is projected to be 30% Muslim. A full third of Swedes will be Muslims. Sorry, call me modern, but when I see a medieval cult based on precisely nothing dictating the terms and conditions, I kinda get antsy! 🐜
@YA-hm5zy it happened to Lebanon, Iran and Afghanistan. I'm sure their people said the same as you at one stage. What makes you so sure it couldn't happen here?
I'm glad this is getting coverage. We need to have this scrutiny, with the levels of immigration we have now this issue absolutely cannot be ignored any longer. If you hate the likes of Farrage it is all the more reason you shouldn't ignore it.
if you wanted control why vote for Brexit, it means less control before France had to help stop the boats now it is not their problem, freedom of movement means that we could have the doctors from other EU countries come and work help us then they would go home but now we can't Brexit has made things so much worse
@@WinstonMelbourne-vt2vt where do I start with this? I'm a remain voter but you assume being against this ridiculously high level of immigration means I voted for Brexit? 🤣 Many countries in the EU are now also getting fed up with it but your still coming out with this rubbish? Our high immigration is a result of mismanagement of the country and being in the EU literally wouldn't fix that as many of the relating issues have been brewing for decades.
@adam7802...That is on your own account. The Conservatives told the British public and eloctorate they would create special visa regulations for mass amount of migrants from Hong Kong, India and later special window for Ukrainian refugees. These countries are the main ones where majority of net migrants come from under Boris Johnson administration, now the same mass of British people are complaining about housing crisis and NHS.
@@adam7802 I am glad you voted to stay in ok what you don't understand is we are getting older and have had fewer children, we need more people not less, gone are the days of a big family, that 2 baby cap is BS look at what happened to china, and covid well let's say it has not helped,
@@onlineonlineaccount2368 The facts are Ukranian and Hong Kong immigrants/refugees are a small number compared to the large number of Africans and Indians coming over. Why make an argument when you don't know the facts? As for the Conservatives... I never wanted them, they have lied through their teeth and are the reason immigration has ballooned to where it is now, good riddance to them.
You got to differentiate between legal and illegal immigration. Most citizens welcome legal immigrants. Illegal immigrants are people who jump the line (queue). There are thousands of people waiting in queue for legal immigrations.
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Best thing is to carry out extensive research and be on top of current events. Know how current events can alter share prices and apply logic over your emotions. This is what worked for me. Best of luck
Even with the right technique and assets some investors would still make more than others, as an investor, you should’ve known that by now, nothing beats experience and that’s final, personally I had to reach out to a market analyst for guidance which is how I was able to grow my account close to a million, withdraw my profit right before the correction and now I’m buying again.
That tufton street wannabe doesn't tell you that every legal migration person gives £700 per year for the NHS. So every student has to pay this every year of there studies.
So does every skilled worker actually. They pay for NHS services twice. Once when they get/ extend the visa and then the second time when they pay taxes.
Lived in korea for over a decade. You want to see a country with an aging demographic problem, its a done deal there. Yet they still have a highly managed and metered immigration policy. With visas renewed yearly with no expectations to stay indefinitely. Immigration in the tens of thousands focus on what sectors and industry needs in mostly farming, manufacturing, labour, fishing, building. Jobs that Koreans won't do. Not all jobs are allowed to be done by foreigners and for skilled job degree/master and years experience in that field is required before even consideration to why a foriegner should take the job over a Korean. Add on to this ratio quotas per korean employee to foreigner employee their polices puts country first. It's wierd now i think of it. The only have immigration in such small number compare to the UK yet the have well organised immigration offices for even city and province yet the UK has like 3.
Yes it always makes me laugh when the immigrant addicts say "we have an ageing population!!!!111 do you want to end up like Japan or South Korea?" To which my answer is YES!
If the uk had adopted schengen ID systems then every large council would have been able to do this stuff, we would also have photo ID that we now need for voting.
@@Kus430 this is true, their population crisis is very real I witnessed it. More dogs in push chairs there than babies. Yet Korea is very socially conservative outside of Seoul. Koreans wouldn't stand for the likes of immigration the west sees...
As an Australian the same issue has happened here. Quantitative peopling by the federal government has inflated house prices and construction costs so much that it’s practically too expensive to build housing now. The rate of migration should be tied into a percentage of the overall national stock of houses built per annum. This will deflate the housing market and consequently construction costs. The removal of unnecessary planning and rezoning restrictions also needs to be fast tracked in policy reform.
It really is. Far too high for far too long, making integration harder every year and creating a more divided and disparate society. Slow, organic migration is the key to successful immigration and integration
It absolutely is. Boats are a tiny number in comparison. If you talk about just legal migration (not net) we are talking about well over a million a YEAR.
@@johnrussell3961 it really hasn't, which was why Blair raised alarm bells over just 89k coming in 2002. It then steadily proceeded to 2/300k per annum. It's a failed experiment. A great concept but very naive to not assume those from the poorer countries would naturally flock to the richer ones. And not the other way around. It should've only be reciprocal, and that's why we (rightly or wrongly) left. In reality it was probably working okay until it expanded past Poland, but there we go
@@DilbertWhitehead For growth you need to build. It's the basic principle of every citybuilder ever made. China builds a London ever year. The biggest population of a city in the world is Tokyo with 39 million, London has 9,748,000 population. 30 million to go.
Tax, inflation, prices, real estate all going up. When inflation goes 'down' prices stayed up but when asked it's always "it doesn't work that way" from ministry.
Mate, I’d rather have someone who’s an immigrant than someone who can’t even muster the ability to spell. Immigrants contribute more to the economy and are less likely to abuse healthcare and social services. Oh, in case you have looked recently, 40% of the NHS is staffed by ethnic minorities and immigrants.
@humanpotatoes4958 so the fact you still understand what they intended to say and still decided to insult them tells me everything. Typical trait of a leftwing extremist, another is extremely poor math attainment. I doubt you will even apologise for being obnoxious to this person. Disgusting.
Why do people argue about migration so much? Who cares? I certainly don't, it can go up, it can go down, it doesn't affect my quality of life, I don't care if I hear another language being spoken, I don't care if another Polish supermarket opens on the high street, there are more important issues.
Are u five years old or just utterly stupid? You don’t think who’s in a country, how many and where they are from or what they do once here plays into any of those “more important issues”? Competitiveness for jobs and housing are just two things immigration impacts and they are hardly insignificant issues. Then there’s the fact our police and population now have to worry about acid attacks and FGM, two despicable practices that were brought into the UK as people who cross boarders carry their opinions and practices with them. Sure another Polish grocers is not a bad thing, but then it’s not so much the Polish that people are worried about as the hundreds of thousands of men from god knows where who keep showing up and demanding housing, medical care, money, education etc. Our resources aren’t endless.
Supply and demand. The quality of life for everyone has reduced because of migration. It also affects our culture. You might not care, but millions of indigenous people do.
@myzamau428 But that isn't true. Ask any economist and they'll tell you that immigration is vital for any developed economy to maintain its prowess. I love how you say "Indigenous people want to protect their culture" as if Britain didn't sail around the world, destroying thousands of cultures, yet somehow an Indian bloke moving next door to you is equivalent? Immigrants are the only people SAVING British culture, have you seen white British people today? They use American words, don't know our history and most don't even like a cuppa. Immigrants are much more likely to be Christian, work harder as they have to fight to stay here and they're more knowledgeable about British history as they are tested on it in order to get citizenship.
The Windrush generation and those who came from India can wben people were needed and so many people intergrated. Illegal migration now is a huge issues, housing people who really shouldn't be here (not those actually fleeing war), legal migration isn't that much of an issue if they are contributing to society. However there needs to be stricter law, come to study here you cant bring dependents because a lot won't work but will use things like the NHS etc. And to those crying about Rwanda, Denmark successfully do the same thing, it was one thing they negotiationed when they joined the EU. The UK population need to learn from this and actually put the country first!
But students and their dependents paid 1035 pounds a year each as healthcare surcharge, while most are young and might only see a GP once a year. Also they have no access to public funds. I work in academia, paid loads in Healthcare surcharge, I also pay NI and only been to the GP to register. So my money has gone to serve someone else in the NHS, which I have no problem with. All this rhetoric is wrong, and politicians villainize legal immigrants for parliament seats, just like Brexit
If immigration is the key then the goals are completely wrong. Slave ecconomics are the wrong ecconomics. Skilled well paid jobs for British people. High wage, high skilled, High valued jobs. Scandanavians can get it right. Why can't we ? Because our largest sector is banks and people who are not in devt are of no value.
If the uk did not have migration who would pay the tax for Brits to get their uc payments. We all earn over 34k a year pay 3 k in visa and nhs surcharge every 2 years pay tax and ni and get no benefits and can still afford to live in the uk. Brits are on uc and complain they don’t get enough free money.
Lol 😂immigrants are an average per capita financial burden on the taxpayer to a massively disproportionate level....The only way to get through the mental gymnastic hoops to conclude that they are a financial advantage to the UK economy is by deliberately ignoring everything else apart from more people= more taxpayers bullshittery narrative with your fingers in your ears shouting "lalalala!" At the top of your voice
That Karl Williams guy comes off so sleazy and smarmy. And when he mentions how the graduate visa acts like a loophole, without actually knowing what it is, I love how Professor Jonathan Portes says, 'to say it is a loophole, is simply a fiction invented by people who don't like foreigners.' 🤣🤣🤣
our main problem is Brexit, in fact, freedom of movement is the control we need, the one thing that would help and no one is talking about it, we have done the most foolish thing possible, freedom of movement within the EU means control of the boarders not less, and you can stop the boat in France, we need to stop being foolish
What about the irrefutable negative impact on the quality of life for all the people forced to actually pay the price of those zero personal cost luxury virtue signalling opinions on mass immigration your huffing you're own farts to get high on?🤔
If your economy is driven by Immigration and not by investments and manufacturing, you've got it all wrong. Immigration is good but if it is controlled and sustainable. Why no one thinks about other impacts of unusually high immigrants coming into country?
Our economy is struggling with uncertainties, housing issues, foreclosures, global fluctuations, and the pandemic aftermath, causing instability. Rising inflation, sluggish growth, and trade disruptions need urgent attention from all sectors to restore stability and stimulate growth.
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@BrianAlbert-hh3pi Just research the name Desiree Ruth Hoffman. You’d find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment.
how much does a hotel owner get per immigrant daily weekly monthly
from government ???
landlords homeowners
The conservative party failed to govern for over 14 years now. Housing has slumped and prices are put off controll.
Investment is services like fire and police has been cut for years. UK has less police officers then in 2010 despite having millions more living here
Who do you blame, the Tories? all politicians? Blame the people who enabled them, voted for them, the British public. You get the government you deserve.
Vote reform!!! We want our country back
@@Fire-pt2xu right wing grifters ruined this country and you want even more of them now?
@@Kwippy far less than half of us voted tory. blame the tory party.
The so called legal immigration is not so legal. Millions of dodgy student visas and work permits mostly from countries like india
Loss of freedom of movement since Brexit means Brits cannot emigrate to the EU easily, therefore net migration has skyrocketed.
It also means that people will stay for longer in the UK because of the effort and cost it takes to get a visa, so we have more permanent residents and less temporary ones
I think you should also include lots of temporary EU workers that had no wish to stay in the UK but only filled the work roles that they now get people from African countries and India to do
Stop anyone coming into the country unless they have a minimum off £ 36000 coming in every year.
Nurses are paid 18% less then in 2009. Junior doctors are getting 30% less then in 2009.
NHS spending has been far below Inflation.
Knees, hips, eyes - what tops the waiting list?
Jane is not alone. Nearly 800,000 people require hip, knee and joint-related orthopaedic treatments. Close to half of them have been waiting longer than 18 weeks, which is not just the target waiting time but supposedly a patient right, written into the NHS Constitution.
Governments have to create growth that matches inflation….just to stand still.
The Tories have destroyed growth, and Brexit didn’t help.
That’s insanity! If nurses and doctors are getting paid less with added current inflation over time then how are less skilled careers doing? UK is just completely destroyed!
@@johnrussell3961No actually growth should exceed inflation!
Vote reform!!!!! We must!!! We want our country back!!!
@@High1QWealth . That’s why other countries can afford things we can’t.
0:23 There you have it. Mask off moment. Been saying this for years, a bigger economy just means more profits and fat dividends for the asset owning classes. For you it means bigger queues for a doctor or more sewage in the rivers. We need to get away from this "good for economy = good" paradigm. When the economy is set up to benefit only a very small number of people it has no relevance.
If we kicked out all the immigrants, I don't think I'd ever get to see a GP. In my practice they are nearly all immigrants or second generation Brits and I'm very thankful for them.
I am an immigrant to UK since 2007, of course legally through work visa. We are entitled to permanent residency after 5 years of continuous tax payment without claiming public benefit, then 7th year to be neutralised to British Citizen. We did so, and I settled with my partner, also came via work visa, same route to settle down. We have two kids here, apart from very occasional NHS consultation, two child birth in hospital, and some child benefit, we claimed no other benefits, and had always been paying tax, high tax band, for so many years. I am confident to say I did much more contribution to the UK economy than claiming benefit. Please differentiate illegal immigrant and legal immigrants, please also differentiate immigrants who are working hard and pay for the country to those who are not. Big talk of all walks of immigration problems will not improve things but arouse hatred, fuel nationalism against us! This was how Brexit happened.
There was a reason UK chose to open to immigrants in The beginning. That was agreed to have benefit. How things went
wrong afterwards was caused by collective factors, bad immigrantion policies, poor education of British schools that can not met the demand of UK’s economy and technological development, wrong decision of Brexit that lead to lose of investment and business then caused loss of national tax and increase of costing of living, involvement and support in major wars, increased US federal interest rates hugely increased the financial cost of UK government , plus the pandemic expenditures, etc. I think the legacy of British empire, common wealth countries immigration policies formed the foundation of the population demographic in Britain today.
This country is messed up.
Vote reform!!!!
@@Fire-pt2xuDouble down on 14 years of bad policy! 😂
moved to Bristol with my family from Devon when I was 15, started work at 17 and was able to rent somewhere within 3 miles of my family in 2005. 2020 priced out of Bristol to Newport South Wales, 2023 priced out of Newport and moved to Liverpool. Bristol has two universities, both of which have swallowed up entire quarters of the city centre with new build international student luxury apartments. Outside the city centre entire residential districts like Brislington and Fishponds are bought up for student houses. locals cant live near their families and some like myself are being pushed out of the south west entirely to the north west
The analysis argues: Large-scale migration has not delivered significant growth in GDP per capita, and has increased the strain on our capital stock, from roads and GP surgeries to housing. as per the center for policy studies.
GDP is a poor measure for growth even if it is nominal or real. You can get nominal growth in GDP via inflation.
The real GDP growth relies on real necessities being part of the inflation index.
So lets elaborate, you hear people talk about the bank of england should reduce interest rates so mortgages get cheaper. The reality is CPI doesnt include mortgages. So they can inflate house prices and that would not show up in the CPI. There are other indexes such as the Core CPI which is not looking so good for the UK.
The reality is, the UK has been run badly for decades, and the electorate will do well to be more synical of the politicians that they elect.
Brilliant 👏
The average wage is 38K a year. There's a deficit. You need to have a tax code above 38K a year in order to be a net contributor.
How many migrants do that? How does a non working migrant do that?
In other words migration of low paid workers is part of the destruction of the UK economy.
Where are the trillions the workers have paid the socialist welfare state for their old age?
@@adenwellsmith6908 yep, and in reality through migration and low skilled labour makes the GDP figures look good while everyone actually gets poorer
@@m0o0n0i0r Correct.
So what's the solution. Two parts. Asylum, and economic migrants.
1. No discrimination. No pro White EU racism for example.
2. Net contributors only.
3. You get a minimum tax code of 38,500 (average wage) a year, increasing in line with average wages.
4. No welfare for economic migrants. No housing benefit, income support....
5. Remember, they came here for economic reasons. If its not economic for them they will leave.
6. No public sector jobs. No Public Sector worker generates any tax revenue.
I cant believe people think 700k net plus a year is sustainable.
Suggest you look at the demographics of the UK and consider who will be paying for the pensions in 20 years time; if you don't have enough workers you end up like Japan
@@Boghopper9999 Where are we all going to live in 20 years time if we keep going down this same path? Salaries are stagnent, cost of living is high, buying a house is already out of reach for many...
@@adam7802 You could always retire to Spain?... oh wait! lol
We've had a real life experiment in stopping immigration: the end of EU free movement in 2020. Did we see millions of Leave voters showing up for wor? Did we f*c. All that happened is massive staff shortages across the board, because the UK doesn't have enough people able or willing to work
@@adam7802you can build more houses; you can't magic up money for pensions if there are not enough workers paying taxes. Seriously, go look at the demographics. The UK needs more young people to work or else everyone is going to have to work lots more years if they can, or live in poverty if they cant
The reason we have immigration at all is because people aren’t having enough children. Our ageing population has created a demographic imbalance.
There is a direct correlation between increasing house prices and decreasing birth rates.
To find the solution, the formula has to be rearranged.
It really is as simple as that.
Completely untrue and economically illeterate. How does having less demand (decreasing birth rates = decreasing population) cause prices to go down? Just look up Japanese house prices since 1990 and their birth rates.
The only reason we have immigration is because businesses need them and bankers need a housing shortage so they can lend huge sums of money to buy them.
it's funny this argument though with very little considered for the actual figure required.
650K net each year has staggering kick on affects in 20 years when you need 1 million to look after that aging addition.
Not suggesting you don't know that but just see that kicked around a lot with no actual figure known.
And the people who are pumping out kids are chavs who aren’t the slightest bit interested in education 🤦
@@thedig7109 It’s either this or massively increase taxes for the working side (which further entrenches the birth rate problem).
go on any university's website, choose any course, compare the fees between UK, EEA and international student. Compare the difference in fees and you will no longer start liking Reform, unless of course you have got a private school education and are happy for more Brits to be illiterate
Domestic students fees dont acually cover the cost for a university atm.. universities are literally only kept afloat more or less by international students
Many universities send teams on world tours to get more international students upon whom they crucially rely on for funding. Many people in the UK feel that tax money spent on unis means people who don't want go to unis are having to subsidise people who do and it isn't fair.
@Kwippy many who go to uni and pay high tax dont feel it is right to subsidise those that don't. Works both ways pal.
Vote reform and take our country back!!!
The real overwhelming immigration is not from these war torn countries but countries like india
The public are not to be dictated to, we know what immigration has done and we want a swift end to the madness.
Johnson has cut 400 frontline firefighter positions for the London Fire Brigade when he was Mayor. This shows were the Conservative party is standing.
More fires?
@@allykhan8594a big one at Downing Street yeah
The UK economy is so weak because people can't afford anything anymore. Goods and food have become far more expensive. Housing is insanely unaffordable. UK politics have failed british people.
The old mutuals tied mortgages to wages, and house prices had to reflect what people could borrow .
Then Thatcher persuaded them to become banks, and they lent too much..
how much does a hotel owner get per immigrant daily weekly monthly
from government ???
landlords homeowners
It's incredibly important to the economy, culture, & it's standing in the world. Legal skilled immigrants should have an easier time in the system & settling not be made to have it harder. Students should not even be counted as immigrants & should be removed from net migration statistics. Family unification should be a human right & there should be no MIR for spouses! Placing MIR also has a massive negative affect on British citizens who are in relationships with foreigners! Scapegoating immigrants also doesn't help with anything & shows extreme weakness. Trying to be cruel to asylum seekers won't stop them from coming either b/c schemes like the rwanda policy doesn't get to the root of the problem which is instability in their home countries.
Who's scapegoating the individuals? It's one of the biggest misconceptions of our time, meaning we keep ignoring the problem. Immigration = good. Mass immigration = bad. The system is the problem, not the people using it. We need to stop personalising this as it's simply about numbers
So what you're saying is we should brush the issue of high immigration under a rug and pretend it isn't happening? Well if you want to ensure Farrage is PM in the future you keep preaching that.
@@DilbertWhitehead birthrate has fallen & population has been aging. The youth population & working age population of today is actually the same size as it was 10 years ago whilst the elderly population has actually grown. Immigration has just kept the youth & working age population the same. Without more immigration there would be much more pressure on thw working age population. There are ways to go about having more control over the numbers of people coming over whilst rewarding those who legally pay their way through & make it fair for those with immediate family abroad (spouse & children under 18). What needs to be done is sort out the NHS (much of the workforce is migrants) & build more houses! (Shortage of workers here). There are also job vaccancies of over 900k & due to brexit many workers haven't been coming so they need to come from outside.
@@Lando-kx6so do you honestly think that every country in the western world (as we're all living longer) needs an unlimited supply of migration to look after their elderly? Can you not see how flawed that is as a concept?
@@adam7802 exactly this. They just don't get it do they, and they just won't listen. Which is why we had Brexit, why we've had a Tory government for so long, and why the right are rising all over the western world and will continue to do so until this failed experiment is stopped
Vote REFORM!
Channel 4 recently did a video of a new immigrant (who didn't work) complaining that her benefit wasn't enough for her and her child. What do you think?
I can't breathe. There's too many people.
Vote reform and take our country back!!!!
Actually, there are too few people
@@keepgoing7533 mostly old people and the unemployable. Immigrants are the only ones actually keeping the economy running, as has become obvious since Brexit
The housing market has been screwed for 15 years, wages havent risen in line with house prices.no new council houses and hardly any affordale housing created. Visa'd immigration is very high but the changes in university fees has made them the UKs latest money maker. We need houses, rent is crazy everywhere.
If the international students are working in UK, then the money that they spend on fees and living expenses is NOT export income. Some even send money back to their home countries, draining the UK economy.
Forget the economy, the social cost is unbelievably high, and that's what liberals will never understand until they themselves have to live in some of these highly diverse areas.
A lot of people voting for Brexit were from Asian backgrounds, because European immigration they couldn't bring so many people from their original countries, Brexit did open the borders for them.
Yep. I remember it being said during the campaign that EU membership unfairly penalised those outside the EU and once outside all those Leavers would welcome people from the commonwealth and beyond - so long as we were in control. Don’t hear much of that now!
No lol they just didn't like roma gypsys
It’s not about growth. It’s about sustaining what we have. How do we keep the NHS going?
Get more British workers working!
@@allykhan8594. It takes 7 years to create a doctor. What do we do in the meantime?
@@allykhan8594 That wont happen when unskilled/ no skilled workers flood in looking to work for below minimum wage.... mass migration is a tool for the rich to keep themselves rich at the expense of everyone else.
Pay higher taxes and national insurance or open the NHS for private investment to keep the quality high.
You cannot promise tax cuts and promise free health services. An illustration, Norway has a free and good health service but the citizens pay more than 62% in taxes. In the Netherlands, it is a hybrid where both public and private money is being used to stimulate innovation and progress but also to keep it affordable. The US is an example where privatisation has gone through the roof.
To pay for public services, a government has only three options: raise taxes, make cuts, or borrow money.
Overwhelming most immigrants recently coming to the Uk to work are for health and social care. If anything, immigrants are supporting the NHS.
In the Netherlands a government committee calculated that 'Non-Western' immigration is a net COST over the life of the immigrant. That is after deducting cost of education, healthcare housing etc. etc. from the 'net production' (taxes) of the immigrant. of course there are exeptions to the rule in the positive ánd negative!
NHS backlog and waiting lists
There are 640,000 waiting to see eye specialists - many will have declining eyesight with its obvious consequences on their daily lives - and there are more than 500,000 waiting for gynaecological care and another 500,000 waiting for ear, nose and throat (ENT) treatments.
Even in emergency deparments people are waiting 8 or 10 hours.
Vote reform!!!! A vote for Labour is a vote for Islam!!!!
The media is overtly framing the immigration issue in economic terms, and ruthlessly avoiding discussion about culture. Small numbers of migrants can be integrated into British culture, and can be enriching. Mass migration creates enclaves, segregated communities, and low trust. A British Asian in London, Harrow (45% Asian) will face less pressure to integrate into traditional British life than a British Asian growing up in Norfolk (0.5%).
Personally, no trouble with anyone’s skin colour. Islam is _the_ issue for me. When a critical mass is reached in this country (and anywhere else) there will be calls for Sharia Law and if Islam is in the driving seat at that point, it _will_ be enforced. Or else. We are sleepwalking into a not-too-distant disaster.
OK get the tin foil hat back on.
@@YA-hm5zyWake up, m8. By 2050 the UK is projected to be 17% Islamic. Sweden, astonishingly, is projected to be 30% Muslim. A full third of Swedes will be Muslims. Sorry, call me modern, but when I see a medieval cult based on precisely nothing dictating the terms and conditions, I kinda get antsy! 🐜
@YA-hm5zy it happened to Lebanon, Iran and Afghanistan. I'm sure their people said the same as you at one stage. What makes you so sure it couldn't happen here?
@@DilbertWhitehead go learn some history.
@@YA-hm5zy the one who should learn some history is you!
I'm glad this is getting coverage. We need to have this scrutiny, with the levels of immigration we have now this issue absolutely cannot be ignored any longer. If you hate the likes of Farrage it is all the more reason you shouldn't ignore it.
if you wanted control why vote for Brexit, it means less control before France had to help stop the boats now it is not their problem, freedom of movement means that we could have the doctors from other EU countries come and work help us then they would go home but now we can't Brexit has made things so much worse
@@WinstonMelbourne-vt2vt where do I start with this? I'm a remain voter but you assume being against this ridiculously high level of immigration means I voted for Brexit? 🤣 Many countries in the EU are now also getting fed up with it but your still coming out with this rubbish?
Our high immigration is a result of mismanagement of the country and being in the EU literally wouldn't fix that as many of the relating issues have been brewing for decades.
@adam7802...That is on your own account. The Conservatives told the British public and eloctorate they would create special visa regulations for mass amount of migrants from Hong Kong, India and later special window for Ukrainian refugees. These countries are the main ones where majority of net migrants come from under Boris Johnson administration, now the same mass of British people are complaining about housing crisis and NHS.
@@adam7802 I am glad you voted to stay in ok what you don't understand is we are getting older and have had fewer children, we need more people not less, gone are the days of a big family, that 2 baby cap is BS look at what happened to china, and covid well let's say it has not helped,
@@onlineonlineaccount2368 The facts are Ukranian and Hong Kong immigrants/refugees are a small number compared to the large number of Africans and Indians coming over. Why make an argument when you don't know the facts? As for the Conservatives... I never wanted them, they have lied through their teeth and are the reason immigration has ballooned to where it is now, good riddance to them.
Its finished our economy to its knees
You got to differentiate between legal and illegal immigration. Most citizens welcome legal immigrants. Illegal immigrants are people who jump the line (queue). There are thousands of people waiting in queue for legal immigrations.
Most people welcome legal migration: not in 🇬🇧 UK
You should make a content on how to earn 6 figures in monthly profits cos I've been reading about investors making up as much and I'd really love to know how to such substantial profit in this current market
it's all about finding the right moment to take advantage of and generate colossal profit, which is why you need to do your research
proper research, good analysis and luck is what you need to make profit in this constant market decline.
Best thing is to carry out extensive research and be on top of current events. Know how current events can alter share prices and apply logic over your emotions. This is what worked for me. Best of luck
Even with the right technique and assets some investors would still make more than others, as an investor, you should’ve known that by now, nothing beats experience and that’s final, personally I had to reach out to a market analyst for guidance which is how I was able to grow my account close to a million, withdraw my profit right before the correction and now I’m buying again.
My partner’s been considering going the same route, could you share more info please on the advisor that guides you?
That tufton street wannabe doesn't tell you that every legal migration person gives £700 per year for the NHS. So every student has to pay this every year of there studies.
So does every skilled worker actually. They pay for NHS services twice. Once when they get/ extend the visa and then the second time when they pay taxes.
Lived in korea for over a decade. You want to see a country with an aging demographic problem, its a done deal there. Yet they still have a highly managed and metered immigration policy. With visas renewed yearly with no expectations to stay indefinitely.
Immigration in the tens of thousands focus on what sectors and industry needs in mostly farming, manufacturing, labour, fishing, building. Jobs that Koreans won't do. Not all jobs are allowed to be done by foreigners and for skilled job degree/master and years experience in that field is required before even consideration to why a foriegner should take the job over a Korean.
Add on to this ratio quotas per korean employee to foreigner employee their polices puts country first.
It's wierd now i think of it. The only have immigration in such small number compare to the UK yet the have well organised immigration offices for even city and province yet the UK has like 3.
Yes it always makes me laugh when the immigrant addicts say "we have an ageing population!!!!111 do you want to end up like Japan or South Korea?" To which my answer is YES!
You may be able to argue the benefits of South Korea's immigration policy for the present but that isn't the case for the future in 20 years time
If the uk had adopted schengen ID systems then every large council would have been able to do this stuff, we would also have photo ID that we now need for voting.
Vote reform!!!!
@@Kus430 this is true, their population crisis is very real I witnessed it. More dogs in push chairs there than babies.
Yet Korea is very socially conservative outside of Seoul. Koreans wouldn't stand for the likes of immigration the west sees...
Yes make it all about immigration to pit people against one another so we don't focus on inflation, austerity and housing. Great idea.
As an Australian the same issue has happened here. Quantitative peopling by the federal government has inflated house prices and construction costs so much that it’s practically too expensive to build housing now. The rate of migration should be tied into a percentage of the overall national stock of houses built per annum. This will deflate the housing market and consequently construction costs. The removal of unnecessary planning and rezoning restrictions also needs to be fast tracked in policy reform.
Obviously it doesnt work- don't believe the lies
"How should we view UK immigration"
Alright channel 4 tell me how to think.
Vote reform!!!
Legal migration is definitely not the problem
It really is. Far too high for far too long, making integration harder every year and creating a more divided and disparate society. Slow, organic migration is the key to successful immigration and integration
@@DilbertWhitehead. FOM had been slow over 40 years . Then after Brexit EU workers left very quickly and had to be replaced very quickly.
It absolutely is. Boats are a tiny number in comparison. If you talk about just legal migration (not net) we are talking about well over a million a YEAR.
@@johnrussell3961 it really hasn't, which was why Blair raised alarm bells over just 89k coming in 2002. It then steadily proceeded to 2/300k per annum. It's a failed experiment. A great concept but very naive to not assume those from the poorer countries would naturally flock to the richer ones. And not the other way around. It should've only be reciprocal, and that's why we (rightly or wrongly) left. In reality it was probably working okay until it expanded past Poland, but there we go
@@DilbertWhitehead For growth you need to build. It's the basic principle of every citybuilder ever made. China builds a London ever year. The biggest population of a city in the world is Tokyo with 39 million, London has 9,748,000 population. 30 million to go.
Our country is broken
Indian immigrants bring in so many high quality talents to UK , provide so many politician, CEO or entrepreneur , even UK richest person is a Indian.
Its wrong to brain-drain India.
And no Brits go live in India, so its a one sided deal.
Based
Ok. Next Pizza deliverer please
Is it aye 😂😂
Tax, inflation, prices, real estate all going up. When inflation goes 'down' prices stayed up but when asked it's always "it doesn't work that way" from ministry.
I could have to them this for free in 2018 about sharp rise in nonEU Migration
We are full up now shut the boarders it’s insane.
The fact that you can’t even spell borders says it all 👍😁
Mate, I’d rather have someone who’s an immigrant than someone who can’t even muster the ability to spell. Immigrants contribute more to the economy and are less likely to abuse healthcare and social services. Oh, in case you have looked recently, 40% of the NHS is staffed by ethnic minorities and immigrants.
@humanpotatoes4958 so the fact you still understand what they intended to say and still decided to insult them tells me everything. Typical trait of a leftwing extremist, another is extremely poor math attainment. I doubt you will even apologise for being obnoxious to this person. Disgusting.
Who would think that spending £7m a day on illegal immigrants would be bad for the country
Vote reform!!!! We want our country back!!!!
The reason why net migration figures jave skyrocketed is because their immigration points based system.
how much does a hotel owner get per immigrant daily weekly monthly
from government ???
landlords homeowners
Fascism is also out of control
Keeping women in bags.
Openly hostile to Jews and gays.
Channel 4 believes infinity immigrants will solve all our problems. Good luck, glad I emigrated 👍
Why do people argue about migration so much? Who cares? I certainly don't, it can go up, it can go down, it doesn't affect my quality of life, I don't care if I hear another language being spoken, I don't care if another Polish supermarket opens on the high street, there are more important issues.
Are u five years old or just utterly stupid? You don’t think who’s in a country, how many and where they are from or what they do once here plays into any of those “more important issues”? Competitiveness for jobs and housing are just two things immigration impacts and they are hardly insignificant issues. Then there’s the fact our police and population now have to worry about acid attacks and FGM, two despicable practices that were brought into the UK as people who cross boarders carry their opinions and practices with them. Sure another Polish grocers is not a bad thing, but then it’s not so much the Polish that people are worried about as the hundreds of thousands of men from god knows where who keep showing up and demanding housing, medical care, money, education etc. Our resources aren’t endless.
Supply and demand. The quality of life for everyone has reduced because of migration. It also affects our culture. You might not care, but millions of indigenous people do.
@myzamau428 But that isn't true. Ask any economist and they'll tell you that immigration is vital for any developed economy to maintain its prowess.
I love how you say "Indigenous people want to protect their culture" as if Britain didn't sail around the world, destroying thousands of cultures, yet somehow an Indian bloke moving next door to you is equivalent?
Immigrants are the only people SAVING British culture, have you seen white British people today? They use American words, don't know our history and most don't even like a cuppa.
Immigrants are much more likely to be Christian, work harder as they have to fight to stay here and they're more knowledgeable about British history as they are tested on it in order to get citizenship.
Just look at housing…
@@lukeool That's due to a lack of jew houses being built and old people hoarding multiple properties.
Boris to blame for. He should be prosecutes
The Windrush generation and those who came from India can wben people were needed and so many people intergrated. Illegal migration now is a huge issues, housing people who really shouldn't be here (not those actually fleeing war), legal migration isn't that much of an issue if they are contributing to society. However there needs to be stricter law, come to study here you cant bring dependents because a lot won't work but will use things like the NHS etc.
And to those crying about Rwanda, Denmark successfully do the same thing, it was one thing they negotiationed when they joined the EU. The UK population need to learn from this and actually put the country first!
But students and their dependents paid 1035 pounds a year each as healthcare surcharge, while most are young and might only see a GP once a year. Also they have no access to public funds.
I work in academia, paid loads in Healthcare surcharge, I also pay NI and only been to the GP to register. So my money has gone to serve someone else in the NHS, which I have no problem with.
All this rhetoric is wrong, and politicians villainize legal immigrants for parliament seats, just like Brexit
Migration legal is welcome we need that … not illegal
If immigration is the key then the goals are completely wrong.
Slave ecconomics are the wrong ecconomics.
Skilled well paid jobs for British people. High wage, high skilled, High valued jobs.
Scandanavians can get it right.
Why can't we ?
Because our largest sector is banks and people who are not in devt are of no value.
Immigration is a big business in UK
We don’t mind a little migration but like the host country we age so in that context we should be training our young up
This ifs guy is a problem
How come there is a problem with doctors, with all of these doctors arriving with boats...
It's NOT JUST STUDENTS THOUGH IS IT. IT IS ALL THEIR FAMILY TOO, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE STUDENTS THAT LEAVE BEFORE YEAR 1.
If the Daily Mail says so, it must be true
If the uk did not have migration who would pay the tax for Brits to get their uc payments. We all earn over 34k a year pay 3 k in visa and nhs surcharge every 2 years pay tax and ni and get no benefits and can still afford to live in the uk. Brits are on uc and complain they don’t get enough free money.
Lol 😂immigrants are an average per capita financial burden on the taxpayer to a massively disproportionate level....The only way to get through the mental gymnastic hoops to conclude that they are a financial advantage to the UK economy is by deliberately ignoring everything else apart from more people= more taxpayers bullshittery narrative with your fingers in your ears shouting "lalalala!" At the top of your voice
Well.... It is gona cost a huge amount of money with NO, I repeat: NO advantages
If you’re going to university, you don’t bring your mum do you you don’t need the visa family
That Karl Williams guy comes off so sleazy and smarmy. And when he mentions how the graduate visa acts like a loophole, without actually knowing what it is, I love how Professor Jonathan Portes says, 'to say it is a loophole, is simply a fiction invented by people who don't like foreigners.' 🤣🤣🤣
Let me clue you in…it isn’t! It’s a lie!
Make babies, not arguments 😂
To many students getting brainwashed
Look at Poland and you will see want immigration dose
our main problem is Brexit, in fact, freedom of movement is the control we need, the one thing that would help and no one is talking about it, we have done the most foolish thing possible, freedom of movement within the EU means control of the boarders not less, and you can stop the boat in France, we need to stop being foolish
The question of economic impact of immigration is very complex.
But for racists and bigots, the issue is very simple.
What about the irrefutable negative impact on the quality of life for all the people forced to actually pay the price of those zero personal cost luxury virtue signalling opinions on mass immigration your huffing you're own farts to get high on?🤔
Liar
Left wing media Chanel 4 is a fk in state of a channel sack your directors
Why beg immigrants to come over and then cry haaaaaa
..and this journalist sounds like a spoof.
If your economy is driven by Immigration and not by investments and manufacturing, you've got it all wrong.
Immigration is good but if it is controlled and sustainable. Why no one thinks about other impacts of unusually high immigrants coming into country?
I'm German brat
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