I've used many sensor sizes (MFT to full frame) in pro, semi pro and hobby work. It's all too easy to seal yourself in a bubble and forget that there are many others doing professional work with equipment you wouldn't consider using yourself. I'm 75 and long since retired but, i still refuse to become part of one companies tribe. I use some new mirrorless equipment, some 10+ year old DSLR equipment, some 17 year old CCD sensor equipment, etc. As long as the box produces the image I want and stays out of my way its all good in my book. I don't care who made it, what it cost, what size sensor or, when it was made. Too much of photography has become what i call "Peacockery" these days. You know what i mean? If y'all don't strut the same strut then you're just a mutt - LOL.
As an owner of both the D7200 and the D810, I have to say you nailed this side by side comparison, good usable information for someone looking to make the switch to a full frame (FX) sensor camera. Good job !
@@Smobro12 Yes, I couldn't believe the difference in clarity and definition of the D810, ended up selling the D7200 and picked up a D5200 just for the flip out screen for food shoots and easier macro work.
Extremely happy with my D810, it's still an awesome camera for its age. I plan to mostly do portraits and studio work with it, until I can afford to step up to a Z7ii in the future.
I still love my D810, but I also am looking at eventually getting the Z7II when it drops a little further in price. I also have the D700, D3s, D500, and a Z5. I just fall in love with my cameras and have trouble letting go.🤷♂️
In many ways, the D7100 already has many of the same characteristics of many full frame cameras, and is extremely well built. In fact, it is quite arguably the best ever DX format camera made by Nikon. And you don't start to notice much of a difference in megapixels between a 24 megapixel camera, and a 35 or 45 megapixel camera, until you can compare extreme size enlargements, and a 20 by 30 inch print hardly fits into the extreme size category. The only serious complaint I can think of is the photographers who need a very large buffer memory before the camera can save to a memory card in order to do fast motor-drive style photography.
Great job! I would relabel all DX format cameras as prosumer grade. There I said it. The D810 which I own is semi-pro grade, in my opinion. I have owned pro cameras such as F2AS, F3HP, F4s, F5, D1x and D5. For a 2nd backup I used FM2 and D810. Back in the day, these labels were popular also with video camcorders as well. All very capable in the right hands. I get more stability at slower speeds with the heavier cameras. F3 with MD4 battery pack uses AA cells and last for thousands of shutter clicks. My D810 has an external battery pack. Now my D810 and D5 share the same battery. I get 3500 shots with these batteries before I think about replacing them. My fav film camera is the F5 which uses AA cells. I gave my second F5 to my grand-daughter since she was interested in film. She also has the D750 full frame. Get a mono-pod if weight is a problem. The heavier cameras will probably out-live you. Can't say that for the lighter cameras. Life long Nikon user. I've also owned Canon F1, F1n film cameras as well. The Nikon Matrix metering is flawless in my opinion and keeps me with Nikon. My needs are simple: a) two card slots; b)14 bits; c) long battery life (external battery pack); d) able to mount AIS lenses; e) screw drive for older nikon screw drive lenses. These require a heavier camera body such as the D810 and D5. Can't go wrong with the D810/850 digital or the F5 film camera. If you must have a DX camera, the D500 is it. You will never outgrow these cameras. My two cents.
I bought a D810 last year - it is epic. This year I bought a 2nd hand D7100 - it is also epic but in different ways. If I had to choose just one it would only ever be the D810.
+makalu69 I think that the bottom line here is that they are very different cameras for very different uses/users (although the D7100 can of course be a B camera for a D810 user).
im a photographer currently using a Nikon D610. just want to make this clear never owned these cameras but i have had a play on them. i can tell you right now the D7100 Does the job! the 810 is obviously the best but really.... go look at the price! 7100 you get perfect images with why waste money on a 810 when a 7100 is just as good
Any good 35mm lens becomes 52.5mm. My Voightlander 58mm f/1.4 becomes 87mm. Etc. It's the same sensor as the D810 except it's 24mp and DX size. They're cut from the same chips!
I have been using d3300 with 18-55mm kit lens. It works so well. Don't need to buy these expensive bodies . We can fool the client until they are unaware of excellent result of this masterpiece camera.
Nice comparison - value your personal opinion on the AF. I bought D7100 for $500. It is a great value compared to D810 @ $2500+. For what I shoot, D7100 should be plenty enough for me. I decided to invest in lenses than splurging everything in bodies.
+bals dave Good choice - lenses will last for a long time - a body comes down in price and is almost worthless (price-wise) after 3-4 years - while you can still own a 10-15 year old lens which will cost 70% of what you paid originally (sometimes more but these are rare cases).
My D300 still shoots very well and performs flawlessly with amazing images. Lower MP doesn't mean horrible quality if decent glass is in front of it. Good review, Iddo. Thank you!
I made that $2000 up in one job with my D810. The D7100 could have never done the job because it was a very low light event that no flash was allowed . The D810 is in another league compared to the D7100 . Only someone inexperienced would take the D7100 over the D810. If you are a pro and using the D7100 as your main body you will need to rent a full frame body on certain jobs because APSC cameras are handicapped in low light .
There are many bone heads out there that have convinced themselves technological advancements outperform experience and talent. Performing with excellence still is my Nikon FM, Nikon F100, D200(published by NatGeo with that 10.1 mp sensor), and my Nikon D7100. I prefer my D7100 in many ways over my D700. Almost ready to upgrade to the D850 but the fear being, old technology is soon to come. @@williamblackwell9558
The professional camera is the camera one owns. Can you make money with it? Well, now we have a professional camera. Lots of pin hole junkies jamin' the dough with their amazing personalities...
@@jimcochrane4679 if some one has the experience and talent they should should be making enough money to get the amazing new cameras . There is no need not to upgrade . Nikon made some great cameras that are 4 &5 years old that cost $1000 to $1500 but very few people could tell the difference in image quality compared to the new flagship cameras.
There is no Professional camera but the use purpose of a camera 1. FX camera give better iso performance, larger field of view 2. DX camera give better resolution crop picture for wild life photographer Professional camera only exist when a Professional Photographer holding it
Professional camera are those designed with professional in mind. Just like a Porsche are designed for performance driving. A professional driver driving a FIAT 600 wont makes the care a sports car.
But will an amateur in a Porsche necessarily do better than a professional in a vw beetle with a turbo engine in the back....wait, that's pretty much the same car.
That is a senseless statement. We are talking about the cameras themselves, not who is using them! I’m am sick of people using this irrelevant statement. Watch a different video if you want to say that! I am a pro (who may be better than you) and I want a pro camera for the durability and reliability in daily use, plus the advantages in functionality and image quality. If you are a pro sports shooter you buy a D5, not a D7100! * The D7100 is designed for amateurs or maybe students, NOT professionals. Nikon has been designing cameras for decades to fit a particular purpose. They know what they are doing!
Thanks for a very complete, comparison review. I've been thinking of upgrading from my D7100 to the D810 and because of your review I'll be switching ASAP, thanks again!
+Carl Piepora :) keep in mind that if you are not in a rush - Nikon is very likely to come up with a new version of the D810 possibly late this year (we have no exact date) but we do know that it will include a new processor, 4K video and possibly even a new sensor (42MP this time?).
omg i love the actual side by side comparison and i never knew the 810 was so big dammm i love it plzz keep up the great job with the very detailed review you are my fav youtuber i hope you have or do more videos the same way great job because every channel has something unique about it and this is your thing trust me ( indepth side by side )
Really good comparison Many thanks. The size and weight of the D810 is an issue for me( didn't realise how big it was)...but it sounds very good on the resolution and focus front... I would like an upgrade to a professional camera..but I will also check out the d750. Thanks again.
Keep in mind that this is a video from 2015 so all of these are old cameras. We are going to get a new version of the D750 and if you are looking at smaller cameras - maybe you should wait for the next version of the Z full frame cameras cumming next year.
Nice challendge)) Pro fullframe Vs semi-pro crop... Fullframe is fullframe anyway, no matter what it would be: D800, D700, D600 etc. and it is much better than crop in all aspects, except price.
Igor M No, not all aspects. It is heavier and larger (the D610/D750 are close to the D7100/D200 but still a bit larger and heavier), it requires FF lenses which are larger and more expensive (on the D810 you can use crop lenses and still get O.K. resolution but you are still better off with a crop camera to begin with) and most wildlife and bird photographers still prefer crop cameras. So no - they are not better all around - they simply have better IQ and especially better sensitivity - although to be honest with the latest sensor technology crop is good enough for about 90% of all situations.
Igor M I disagree... My D7000 gets a prime spot in my bag and just as frequent use as my fx cameras... Excluding the AF & Buffer it preforms on par with my D700 (Including low light)
modernphotographer I'm a portrait photographer, and need more opportunities than my D7100 can give me. For example: deph of field, angle of view, low lights perfomance and overall picture quality. I don't think, that FF can make my photos better, but I know for what reasons I need it))
Igor M FX has its advantages. for a landscape photographer a camera like the D810 is amazing. However for a bird photographer - not that much (although some use it of course). For portraits it is a great camera - however for sports - not that much. So it really depends on what you are doing. Again for most photographers a camera at the D7XXX level is good enough for about 90% of the uses. Some photographers who need that extra 10% will go for an FX. Oh, b.t.w. later this year we will (eventually) see a D300S replacement - image quality won't be at the level of the D750 but it should be better than existing DX cameras - so the gap between DX and FX will be even smaller.
Thanks for the presentation. I have been filming on the D7100 for a year and felt limited so just bought the D810. I'm not sure how much you film on these cameras, but do you have any feel for the dynamic range? Not looking to much at the flat option and post grading.
+Rolf wiberg We are using the D7100 as our main video camera for LensVid. We shot a bit of video with the D810 during the review but I can't really say that I have enough time with it do make a real judgement call - the dynamic range should be better (its FF after all).
Thank you very much! Do you think Nikon is going to refresh the D810 this year? I own a D7100 and I'm really interested in picking up a D810. Should I wait and see? Or pull the trigger?
+AlTheEngineer yes, there is a very good chance that we shall see a new D8xx camera with the new processor, 4K video, and maybe even an upgrade sensor to 42MP - who knows maybe even more.
I believe it's down to the person using whatever :) I do photography and I am also a musician, you can give a top notch guitar and amp to a player who will make it all sing or sound like crap :)
Yeah Nikon (and to be honest almost everybody) has been jacking up prices in the last few years - the market has been shrinking and this effects prices.
Secondo te un sensore aps-c da 24 piexl e' superiore al ritaglio DX di una Nikon D800 che si aggira sui 14/15 Mpixel? E reale fare questa proporzione sulla risoluzione della Aps-c? Per quanto riguarda la velocità Af è piu veloce la D810 con modulo cam piu evoluto o la D7100 tiene testa.....
If I have the D7100 and I love to shoot macros. Insects, flowers and things like that. Will the D800(e) or D810 improve the quality of the pictures and show significantly more details?
No!D7100 crop sensor is equivalent to 45mp full frame camera!So your crop sensor will give you more details!The dynamic range and colours will be better on D810.
I love the 7100 body I just wished they fitted a full frame sensor in they camera. I am a portrait photographer and can't say enough how helpful a FF is.
The D750 was the closest thing Nikon had to a FF D7XXX series camera. From what we know there is a good chance to a "D760" in 2020 - so there might still be hope if you want to stay in the DSLR world (which I see disappearing in the next decade).
Surely not bias - actually in terms of size and weight our personal bias is much more towards the D7100 form factor (but that is 100% personal preference).
Don't see the point of both camera's . My Nikon d7200 is a better camera than the d7100 , but the d810 dose have an advantage over my camera due to more pixels and higher ISO . I'm looking forward to see what the upgrade is from the D810 and compare it to the new Nikon D7300 ?
People who say full frame is better and that's it, is talking bull shit!! There is many wonderful photos out there done with both these models! I doubt very few could tell the difference from looking at the images, especially if they are both using decent glass
Full frame is not better it is far superior to APSC cameras . In perfect light of course you can get a great photo but when you are a pro and need to take photos in every situation a (APSC ) crop camera will not do the job . In low light situations an crop camera will not get the job done . If you are getting paid $1500 to shoot an event you have to be ready for any situation so that means having at least one full frame camera ready at all times.
I am not getting the purpose of this review, just listing what it's obvious: - one is full frame one is not, - one is professional directed, one is semi-professional - one weights more and one less ... This video does not provide any advice to who is thinking of moving from D7100 to full frame...
Cristian Mattarei Did you watch the entire video? there is so much more info here (and in the review than the 3 things you mentioned including actual real world ISO differences and many smaller things that are not well known).
LensVid What I am saying is that if you compare DX and FX cameras of same brand and same generation, then what you expect is better iso, shallower DOF, more weight, and so on. But all of these aspects are just obvious considerations. It's like comparing a truck to a car and stating that the car is faster. What I expected from this review was something that you cannot easily infer, like what you are going to miss by switching to a D810, and what you are going to appreciate.
Cristian Mattarei They are not from the same gen (the D7200 is from the same gen as the D810) but that isn't that important (and we mention the D7200 in the written review). As for what you are saying - I don't think that all of this is so obvious to every D7100 user (it might be to you), also things like menu differences are definitely not obvious, the actual AF speed and sensitivity is also a huge difference we found (the fact that a company said that camera X has better AF doesn't mean that this is the case in real life - and this is why we actually tested these things).
Cristian Mattarei If you think that all of what we said in this 28 min video + full written review is equivalent to snapsort than you didn't read/watch all of what we have done - sorry.
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Thank you. Look, our point is that if you have been using a D7100 you will feel pretty much at home with a D810 - there are a few differences of course but much of the basics are, well - pretty similar (it doesn't mean that the D810 doesn't have some significantly improved features - but still).
+artem g No. Because you will be using only a very small part of the sensor. If you had a FF sensor with 9MP you would have much better sensitivity - the Sony A7 s has this (with 12MP and FF sensor).
Nikon D810 …... D Eight Ten. Nikon D7100 …..D Seventy One Hundred. This Pronunciation should make your life much easier (it will give us a break, too!)
I have had the "D Eight Ten" for over a year and the "D Eight Hundred" for over three years. I would trade neither for any other DSLR. The crop sensor Nikons cannot take full advantage of the exceptional lenses Nikon designed for full frame sensors. These would include the 70-200mm f/2.8, the 14-24mm f/2.8, and 105mm f/1.4 (to have a crop sensor effectively add a 1.5 multiplier to these focal lengths makes them less useful and is shameful). I could not quite get to the very end of your video because I could not stand to hear you repeat any more ad nauseam "D Seven Thousand, One Hundred" and "D Eight Hundred and Ten".
+bankhead39 well we can and we did. And they are both good cameras for their respected audiences - the idea of this comparisons is to make people understand the differences (and some of the similarities as well).
+Lensvid well from your review you made me no longer want the nikon d7100 and then i realized you was comparing it to a nikon d810 and all im saying is maybe a review of the 2 wouldve been better apose to a comparison smh it was a flagship camera i believe when you did this reviewwww
We still use the D7100 that you see in this comparison (although with all the gear that we are reviewing all the time we use quite a few other cameras as well), later this year we hope to switch to either the D500 or the A6300 or both.
If i got D7100 and i think to update then i choose D500 - for sports , street photography, etc i won't take D810 or any FX cam . I think i it could be update good preference D610 to d810 .
According to info on NR we will soon have a D7300 with the same sensor as the D500 + 4K and a tilt screen but cheaper and smaller than the D500 - so maybe you should wait a bit.
I hear about that Nikon d7300 rumors, ergonomics of D500 for my hand phenomenal, smaller it doesn't always apply to better photography. Is that true that D7300 is going move away from manual F-mount lenses? I heard that will maintain AF 51 and will low in mpx 20.9 then previous version 7200. Looks that reducing rate of mpx 7300 buffer will be faster. My regards
How about the price, do you think D500 will outmatch D7300? Well about 4k, for shooting sports only in pictures, got no time for 4k nor 1080 :-). I see on eBay market d4 getting look pinnacle to those who are most working on pictures in low budget.
I was considering counting the usage of the unnecessary long naming of the camera's, namely the Seven Thousand One Hundred (Sorry, I forgot the D) the D Seven Thousand One Hundred and the Eight Hund.. (Sorry) the D Eight Hundred and Ten, but I thought, that would be daft as it's obvious he's taking the piss, Right?
You can use your iPhone for a pro shoot (and that was done many times in the past). With that said, there are cameras which are considered to be "pro level" by the manufacturer itself. For Nikon and Canon the D5/1DX MKII lines are the top pro bodies and the D850 (in this case D810) and 5D MK IV are one level below but still considered pro cameras by Nikon/Canon. The fact that a non Pro user can buy and shoot with these cameras (or that a Pro can shoot with a much less expensive body) doesn't mean anything in this respect.
I guess you can also use your iPhone as a pro camera (in the sense that you can shoot a commercial and get payed for it - and I am sure it had been done) but nobody in their right mind will call an iPhone a pro camera and the D7100 is also not a pro camera - it is a prosumer/mid-range camera at best.
Lensvid far more people use crop cameras for professional work than you obviously realise, this entry level , prosumer, pro level labels are just marketing words, quality of photography is knowing how to use the gear more than what it is, if you capture the moment you'll get paid whatever you use, no one asks what camera it was. Last year a new york magazine had its front cover picture taken with an iPhone so yes that became a pro picture, no chance of that happening to the ignorant amateur that thinks they need full frame. If you don't know what your talking about learn about photography before making stupid comments
As a person who owns a D7100 AND shot paid videos using it I still don't call it a pro camera - no matter what you will say. This is also not how Nikon refers to it. And again you can use any camera for shooting paid work - it does not turn the camera into a pro level camera.
+Lensvid well you don't seem to understand what professional means then, if your getting paid and using a particular tool it's a professional tool regardless of what anyone wants to call it, most cameras are capable of professional photography, names mean nothing. Professionals use ff and crop for different purposes, not because one produces better image quality. One of the main reasons they use ff is bigger prints, the trouble is UA-cam and other media give out so much bullshit that people believe, then they convince themselves they need ff and save their money spend a fortune on ff and lenses and guess what? They still take crap pictures and that goes for a lot pro's to. 10 years ago there was a massive difference between ff and other sensors but nowadays the difference is very minimal, it's about knowing how to take good photographs, not what gear you have but UA-cam certainly has turned people into developing gear aquasition syndrome . No point upgrading your gear and not your skills which is what most people do.
I understand the term perfectly but it can have different meanings in different context. In THIS context - i.e. comparing two cameras from the same manufacturer - the D7100 is NOT a pro body and the D810 is (which is also how Nikon itself looks at the cameras - actually historically Nikon classified only the top model - currently the D5 as PRO body - but I think that the D810 can still be considered PRO even by Nikon's standard's these days).
During the whole video you stand behind that camera doing what?You trying to hold the camera like you will star shooting something and eventually did nothing.
I've used many sensor sizes (MFT to full frame) in pro, semi pro and hobby work. It's all too easy to seal yourself in a bubble and forget that there are many others doing professional work with equipment you wouldn't consider using yourself. I'm 75 and long since retired but, i still refuse to become part of one companies tribe. I use some new mirrorless equipment, some 10+ year old DSLR equipment, some 17 year old CCD sensor equipment, etc. As long as the box produces the image I want and stays out of my way its all good in my book. I don't care who made it, what it cost, what size sensor or, when it was made. Too much of photography has become what i call "Peacockery" these days. You know what i mean? If y'all don't strut the same strut then you're just a mutt - LOL.
As an owner of both the D7200 and the D810, I have to say you nailed this side by side comparison, good usable information for someone looking to make the switch to a full frame (FX) sensor camera. Good job !
So do you prefer the D810?
@@Smobro12 Yes, I couldn't believe the difference in clarity and definition of the D810, ended up selling the D7200 and picked up a D5200 just for the flip out screen for food shoots and easier macro work.
Extremely happy with my D810, it's still an awesome camera for its age. I plan to mostly do portraits and studio work with it, until I can afford to step up to a Z7ii in the future.
I still love my D810, but I also am looking at eventually getting the Z7II when it drops a little further in price. I also have the D700, D3s, D500, and a Z5. I just fall in love with my cameras and have trouble letting go.🤷♂️
In many ways, the D7100 already has many of the same characteristics of many full frame cameras, and is extremely well built.
In fact, it is quite arguably the best ever DX format camera made by Nikon. And you don't start to notice much of a difference in megapixels between a 24 megapixel camera, and a 35 or 45 megapixel camera, until you can compare extreme size enlargements,
and a 20 by 30 inch print hardly fits into the extreme size category. The only serious complaint I can think of is the photographers who need a very large buffer memory before the camera can save to a memory card in order to do fast motor-drive style photography.
Great job! I would relabel all DX format cameras as prosumer grade. There I said it. The D810 which I own is semi-pro grade, in my opinion. I have owned pro cameras such as F2AS, F3HP, F4s, F5, D1x and D5. For a 2nd backup I used FM2 and D810. Back in the day, these labels were popular also with video camcorders as well. All very capable in the right hands.
I get more stability at slower speeds with the heavier cameras. F3 with MD4 battery pack uses AA cells and last for thousands of shutter clicks. My D810 has an external battery pack. Now my D810 and D5 share the same battery. I get 3500 shots with these batteries before I think about replacing them. My fav film camera is the F5 which uses AA cells. I gave my second F5 to my grand-daughter since she was interested in film. She also has the D750 full frame. Get a mono-pod if weight is a problem. The heavier cameras will probably out-live you. Can't say that for the lighter cameras. Life long Nikon user. I've also owned Canon F1, F1n film cameras as well. The Nikon Matrix metering is flawless in my opinion and keeps me with Nikon. My needs are simple: a) two card slots; b)14 bits; c) long battery life (external battery pack); d) able to mount AIS lenses; e) screw drive for older nikon screw drive lenses. These require a heavier camera body such as the D810 and D5. Can't go wrong with the D810/850 digital or the F5 film camera. If you must have a DX camera, the D500 is it. You will never outgrow these cameras. My two cents.
I bought a D810 last year - it is epic. This year I bought a 2nd hand D7100 - it is also epic but in different ways. If I had to choose just one it would only ever be the D810.
+makalu69 I think that the bottom line here is that they are very different cameras for very different uses/users (although the D7100 can of course be a B camera for a D810 user).
im a photographer currently using a Nikon D610. just want to make this clear never owned these cameras but i have had a play on them. i can tell you right now the D7100 Does the job! the 810 is obviously the best but really.... go look at the price! 7100 you get perfect images with why waste money on a 810 when a 7100 is just as good
Warren Bailey Drums I use a D610 too, great camera, would love to try the 810
Which do you think are better in order d7100, 600 or 810
Any good 35mm lens becomes 52.5mm. My Voightlander 58mm f/1.4 becomes 87mm. Etc. It's the same sensor as the D810 except it's 24mp and DX size. They're cut from the same chips!
I have been using d3300 with 18-55mm kit lens. It works so well. Don't need to buy these expensive bodies . We can fool the client until they are unaware of excellent result of this masterpiece camera.
2023, I upgraded my nikon d7000 to d810!
Nice comparison - value your personal opinion on the AF. I bought D7100 for $500. It is a great value compared to D810 @ $2500+. For what I shoot, D7100 should be plenty enough for me. I decided to invest in lenses than splurging everything in bodies.
+bals dave Good choice - lenses will last for a long time - a body comes down in price and is almost worthless (price-wise) after 3-4 years - while you can still own a 10-15 year old lens which will cost 70% of what you paid originally (sometimes more but these are rare cases).
My D300 still shoots very well and performs flawlessly with amazing images. Lower MP doesn't mean horrible quality if decent glass is in front of it. Good review, Iddo. Thank you!
I would take the D7100 and pocket $2000. The D7100 is a professional camera ... I care not what anyone else says about it.
I made that $2000 up in one job with my D810. The D7100 could have never done the job because it was a very low light event that no flash was allowed . The D810 is in another league compared to the D7100 . Only someone inexperienced would take the D7100 over the D810. If you are a pro and using the D7100 as your main body you will need to rent a full frame body on certain jobs because APSC cameras are handicapped in low light .
@@williamblackwell9558 Sorry but thats obsolete for years already, and total bullshit.
There are many bone heads out there that have convinced themselves technological advancements outperform experience and talent. Performing with excellence still is my Nikon FM, Nikon F100, D200(published by NatGeo with that 10.1 mp sensor), and my Nikon D7100. I prefer my D7100 in many ways over my D700. Almost ready to upgrade to the D850 but the fear being, old technology is soon to come.
@@williamblackwell9558
The professional camera is the camera one owns. Can you make money with it? Well, now we have a professional camera. Lots of pin hole junkies jamin' the dough with their amazing personalities...
@@jimcochrane4679 if some one has the experience and talent they should should be making enough money to get the amazing new cameras . There is no need not to upgrade . Nikon made some great cameras that are 4 &5 years old that cost $1000 to $1500 but very few people could tell the difference in image quality compared to the new flagship cameras.
There is no Professional camera but the use purpose of a camera
1. FX camera give better iso performance, larger field of view
2. DX camera give better resolution crop picture for wild life photographer
Professional camera only exist when a Professional Photographer holding it
Professional camera are those designed with professional in mind. Just like a Porsche are designed for performance driving. A professional driver driving a FIAT 600 wont makes the care a sports car.
But will an amateur in a Porsche necessarily do better than a professional in a vw beetle with a turbo engine in the back....wait, that's pretty much the same car.
That is a senseless statement. We are talking about the cameras themselves, not who is using them! I’m am sick of people using this irrelevant statement. Watch a different video if you want to say that! I am a pro (who may be better than you) and I want a pro camera for the durability and reliability in daily use, plus the advantages in functionality and image quality. If you are a pro sports shooter you buy a D5, not a D7100!
* The D7100 is designed for amateurs or maybe students, NOT professionals. Nikon has been designing cameras for decades to fit a particular purpose. They know what they are doing!
The D7100 HAS the Info button as well. Look on the bottom left. 😜🤓
Thanks for a very complete, comparison review. I've been thinking of upgrading from my D7100 to the D810 and because of your review I'll be switching ASAP, thanks again!
+Carl Piepora :) keep in mind that if you are not in a rush - Nikon is very likely to come up with a new version of the D810 possibly late this year (we have no exact date) but we do know that it will include a new processor, 4K video and possibly even a new sensor (42MP this time?).
Thanks, I'm in no hurry and If I'm going to spend that much money I might as well wait and buy the new model when it comes out! Thanks again!
Sure thing :)
omg i love the actual side by side comparison and i never knew the 810 was so big dammm i love it plzz keep up the great job with the very detailed review you are my fav youtuber i hope you have or do more videos the same way great job because every channel has something unique about it and this is your thing trust me ( indepth side by side )
Excellent work. Love your delivery.
Thanks!
Good video. I love my Nikon D7100, and use it for videos as well.
Really good comparison Many thanks. The size and weight of the D810 is an issue for me( didn't realise how big it was)...but it sounds very good on the resolution and focus front... I would like an upgrade to a professional camera..but I will also check out the d750. Thanks again.
Keep in mind that this is a video from 2015 so all of these are old cameras. We are going to get a new version of the D750 and if you are looking at smaller cameras - maybe you should wait for the next version of the Z full frame cameras cumming next year.
The D810 rocks!! I love mine.
Nice challendge)) Pro fullframe Vs semi-pro crop...
Fullframe is fullframe anyway, no matter what it would be: D800, D700, D600 etc. and it is much better than crop in all aspects, except price.
Igor M No, not all aspects. It is heavier and larger (the D610/D750 are close to the D7100/D200 but still a bit larger and heavier), it requires FF lenses which are larger and more expensive (on the D810 you can use crop lenses and still get O.K. resolution but you are still better off with a crop camera to begin with) and most wildlife and bird photographers still prefer crop cameras. So no - they are not better all around - they simply have better IQ and especially better sensitivity - although to be honest with the latest sensor technology crop is good enough for about 90% of all situations.
Igor M I disagree... My D7000 gets a prime spot in my bag and just as frequent use as my fx cameras... Excluding the AF & Buffer it preforms on par with my D700 (Including low light)
modernphotographer I'm a portrait photographer, and need more opportunities than my D7100 can give me. For example: deph of field, angle of view, low lights perfomance and overall picture quality. I don't think, that FF can make my photos better, but I know for what reasons I need it))
Igor M FX has its advantages. for a landscape photographer a camera like the D810 is amazing. However for a bird photographer - not that much (although some use it of course). For portraits it is a great camera - however for sports - not that much. So it really depends on what you are doing. Again for most photographers a camera at the D7XXX level is good enough for about 90% of the uses. Some photographers who need that extra 10% will go for an FX.
Oh, b.t.w. later this year we will (eventually) see a D300S replacement - image quality won't be at the level of the D750 but it should be better than existing DX cameras - so the gap between DX and FX will be even smaller.
Igor M HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF PIXEL DENSITY ASK WILDLIFE PHOTOGRAPHERS WHAT THEY ARE USING
Thanks for the presentation. I have been filming on the D7100 for a year and felt limited so just bought the D810. I'm not sure how much you film on these cameras, but do you have any feel for the dynamic range? Not looking to much at the flat option and post grading.
+Rolf wiberg We are using the D7100 as our main video camera for LensVid. We shot a bit of video with the D810 during the review but I can't really say that I have enough time with it do make a real judgement call - the dynamic range should be better (its FF after all).
Thank you very much! Do you think Nikon is going to refresh the D810 this year? I own a D7100 and I'm really interested in picking up a D810. Should I wait and see? Or pull the trigger?
+AlTheEngineer yes, there is a very good chance that we shall see a new D8xx camera with the new processor, 4K video, and maybe even an upgrade sensor to 42MP - who knows maybe even more.
That's just what I needed to know! Thank you :) I will certainly be waiting then!
I believe it's down to the person using whatever :) I do photography and I am also a musician, you can give a top notch guitar and amp to a player who will make it all sing or sound like crap :)
This video answered 99.95 pct of my questions. Thank you for making such a great video....
+JoseM Sandoval sure thing - always great to hear :)
I will have a look thanks..although the price might be a bit out of reach..Thanks again
Yeah Nikon (and to be honest almost everybody) has been jacking up prices in the last few years - the market has been shrinking and this effects prices.
Secondo te un sensore aps-c da 24 piexl e' superiore al ritaglio DX di una Nikon D800 che si aggira sui 14/15 Mpixel? E reale fare questa proporzione sulla risoluzione della Aps-c? Per quanto riguarda la velocità Af è piu veloce la D810 con modulo cam piu evoluto o la D7100 tiene testa.....
If I have the D7100 and I love to shoot macros. Insects, flowers and things like that. Will the D800(e) or D810 improve the quality of the pictures and show significantly more details?
Yes. With a good high quality macro lens the answer is definable yes and you will also be able to crop more.
No!D7100 crop sensor is equivalent to 45mp full frame camera!So your crop sensor will give you more details!The dynamic range and colours will be better on D810.
I love the 7100 body I just wished they fitted a full frame sensor in they camera. I am a portrait photographer and can't say enough how helpful a FF is.
The D750 was the closest thing Nikon had to a FF D7XXX series camera. From what we know there is a good chance to a "D760" in 2020 - so there might still be hope if you want to stay in the DSLR world (which I see disappearing in the next decade).
in case no one mentioned, they're pronounced "D-eight ten" and "D-seventy-one-hundred"
No one said it can't be pronounced "D eight hundred and ten"
For that next one… D750 …. D Seven Fifty.
Other than the photos of the thread bobbins, there are no photos taken with the D7100 so, not really a comparison, just a bias toward the D810.
Surely not bias - actually in terms of size and weight our personal bias is much more towards the D7100 form factor (but that is 100% personal preference).
Don't see the point of both camera's . My Nikon d7200 is a better camera than the d7100 , but the d810 dose have an advantage over my camera due to more pixels and higher ISO . I'm looking forward to see what the upgrade is from the D810 and compare it to the new Nikon D7300 ?
More pixels my ass.Your D7200 has more pixels per square inch so it will give more details than D810!
Omg the intro killed my ears!
:) That is our old old intro - yeah it was a bit annoying - we have changed everything since 2015 of course.
Nice video. Could you say what camera did you use to make this video?
David Chindumbo sorry for the late reply - If I remember correctly we used the Panasonic LX100 for some of the B-roll.
Thank you.
People who say full frame is better and that's it, is talking bull shit!! There is many wonderful photos out there done with both these models! I doubt very few could tell the difference from looking at the images, especially if they are both using decent glass
Full frame is not better it is far superior to APSC cameras . In perfect light of course you can get a great photo but when you are a pro and need to take photos in every situation a (APSC ) crop camera will not do the job . In low light situations an crop camera will not get the job done . If you are getting paid $1500 to shoot an event you have to be ready for any situation so that means having at least one full frame camera ready at all times.
i am curious what lens is mounted on the d810 camera at 16:28
If I remember correctly it is a 70-300mm.
I am not getting the purpose of this review, just listing what it's obvious:
- one is full frame one is not,
- one is professional directed, one is semi-professional
- one weights more and one less
...
This video does not provide any advice to who is thinking of moving from D7100 to full frame...
Cristian Mattarei Did you watch the entire video? there is so much more info here (and in the review than the 3 things you mentioned including actual real world ISO differences and many smaller things that are not well known).
LensVid What I am saying is that if you compare DX and FX cameras of same brand and same generation, then what you expect is better iso, shallower DOF, more weight, and so on. But all of these aspects are just obvious considerations. It's like comparing a truck to a car and stating that the car is faster. What I expected from this review was something that you cannot easily infer, like what you are going to miss by switching to a D810, and what you are going to appreciate.
Cristian Mattarei They are not from the same gen (the D7200 is from the same gen as the D810) but that isn't that important (and we mention the D7200 in the written review).
As for what you are saying - I don't think that all of this is so obvious to every D7100 user (it might be to you), also things like menu differences are definitely not obvious, the actual AF speed and sensitivity is also a huge difference we found (the fact that a company said that camera X has better AF doesn't mean that this is the case in real life - and this is why we actually tested these things).
Iddo Genuth I am just suggesting to be more informative than what an automatic tool can already do: snapsort.com/compare/Nikon-D7100-vs-Nikon-D810
Cristian Mattarei If you think that all of what we said in this 28 min video + full written review is equivalent to snapsort than you didn't read/watch all of what we have done - sorry.
The lens on the D810 is huge!
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רז, הסרטון הזה מ-2015. דברים קצת השתנו מאז.
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you say always "pretty similar", well,I jump from the d7100 to d810 and nothing is similar in every aspect. Very good review
Thank you. Look, our point is that if you have been using a D7100 you will feel pretty much at home with a D810 - there are a few differences of course but much of the basics are, well - pretty similar (it doesn't mean that the D810 doesn't have some significantly improved features - but still).
if I switch my camera to 9 mpx, does it get better light sensitivity ?
+artem g No. Because you will be using only a very small part of the sensor. If you had a FF sensor with 9MP you would have much better sensitivity - the Sony A7 s has this (with 12MP and FF sensor).
i am wondering how the video compared
Nikon D810 …... D Eight Ten.
Nikon D7100 …..D Seventy One Hundred.
This Pronunciation should make your life much easier (it will give us a break, too!)
JOE PRETE yess! That was driving me crazy lol
Which lens you are using the one along with the D810
Are you asking about which lens did we use for testing or which lens is shown in the video?
The lens being used on the tripod in your video
I believe it was the 80-400mm Nikon.
Thanks
Pointless comparison. Too much confirmation bias.
D810 is too big for your hands and weighs much?
I thought cameras were about picture quality>
No. cameras are also about ergonomics (although of course there is also a subjective element to this).
Heavier cameras are easier to use hand held for sharper pictures.
I have had the "D Eight Ten" for over a year and the "D Eight Hundred" for over three years. I would trade neither for any other DSLR. The crop sensor Nikons cannot take full advantage of the exceptional lenses Nikon designed for full frame sensors. These would include the 70-200mm f/2.8, the 14-24mm f/2.8, and 105mm f/1.4 (to have a crop sensor effectively add a 1.5 multiplier to these focal lengths makes them less useful and is shameful). I could not quite get to the very end of your video because I could not stand to hear you repeat any more ad nauseam "D Seven Thousand, One Hundred" and "D Eight Hundred and Ten".
is it me or audio was slown down x1.1, by 8th minutre the guy speaks as if his batteries started to run low...
i dont own either camera but clearly you cannot compare these 2 cameras you have to be jokin ....the d810 makes the d7100 look basic
+bankhead39 well we can and we did. And they are both good cameras for their respected audiences - the idea of this comparisons is to make people understand the differences (and some of the similarities as well).
+Lensvid well from your review you made me no longer want the nikon d7100 and then i realized you was comparing it to a nikon d810 and all im saying is maybe a review of the 2 wouldve been better apose to a comparison
smh it was a flagship camera i believe when you did this reviewwww
+Lensvid also great videos keep up the great videos and i would love to know whats your current dslr you use and your basic to professional setup
We still use the D7100 that you see in this comparison (although with all the gear that we are reviewing all the time we use quite a few other cameras as well), later this year we hope to switch to either the D500 or the A6300 or both.
"i dont own either camera" → BWA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Excellent video
They have the SAME sensor. 1 is full frame the other is not.
Damn it drives me insane how he says d7100 and d810 😆😆😆
yep obviously hes not american
Like comparing a Porsche to a VW.... What ever were you thinking about???
Full Frame to a Cropped Frame... Sheeeeeesh!
If i got D7100 and i think to update then i choose D500 - for sports , street photography, etc i won't take D810 or any FX cam . I think i it could be update good preference D610 to d810 .
According to info on NR we will soon have a D7300 with the same sensor as the D500 + 4K and a tilt screen but cheaper and smaller than the D500 - so maybe you should wait a bit.
I hear about that Nikon d7300 rumors, ergonomics of D500 for my hand phenomenal, smaller it doesn't always apply to better photography. Is that true that D7300 is going move away from manual F-mount lenses? I heard that will maintain AF 51 and will low in mpx 20.9 then previous version 7200. Looks that reducing rate of mpx 7300 buffer will be faster. My regards
Than you definitely have large hands :) it will be a combination of the D7200 and the D500 (mostly the sensor, 4K and the screen).
How about the price, do you think D500 will outmatch D7300? Well about 4k, for shooting sports only in pictures, got no time for 4k nor 1080 :-). I see on eBay market d4 getting look pinnacle to those who are most working on pictures in low budget.
The D7300 will cost around 1200-1300 compared to around 2000 USD for the D500 - quite a difference.
I was considering counting the usage of the unnecessary long naming of the camera's, namely the Seven Thousand One Hundred (Sorry, I forgot the D) the D Seven Thousand One Hundred and the Eight Hund.. (Sorry) the D Eight Hundred and Ten, but I thought, that would be daft as it's obvious he's taking the piss, Right?
I used a Polaroid for a customer. Does that mean the Polaroid is a pro body?😂 These people make me want to slap the shit out of them.
You can use your iPhone for a pro shoot (and that was done many times in the past). With that said, there are cameras which are considered to be "pro level" by the manufacturer itself. For Nikon and Canon the D5/1DX MKII lines are the top pro bodies and the D850 (in this case D810) and 5D MK IV are one level below but still considered pro cameras by Nikon/Canon.
The fact that a non Pro user can buy and shoot with these cameras (or that a Pro can shoot with a much less expensive body) doesn't mean anything in this respect.
D Seventy-One-Hundred, D Eight-Ten
they're both used as pro cameras
I guess you can also use your iPhone as a pro camera (in the sense that you can shoot a commercial and get payed for it - and I am sure it had been done) but nobody in their right mind will call an iPhone a pro camera and the D7100 is also not a pro camera - it is a prosumer/mid-range camera at best.
Lensvid far more people use crop cameras for professional work than you obviously realise, this entry level , prosumer, pro level labels are just marketing words, quality of photography is knowing how to use the gear more than what it is, if you capture the moment you'll get paid whatever you use, no one asks what camera it was. Last year a new york magazine had its front cover picture taken with an iPhone so yes that became a pro picture, no chance of that happening to the ignorant amateur that thinks they need full frame. If you don't know what your talking about learn about photography before making stupid comments
As a person who owns a D7100 AND shot paid videos using it I still don't call it a pro camera - no matter what you will say. This is also not how Nikon refers to it. And again you can use any camera for shooting paid work - it does not turn the camera into a pro level camera.
+Lensvid well you don't seem to understand what professional means then, if your getting paid and using a particular tool it's a professional tool regardless of what anyone wants to call it, most cameras are capable of professional photography, names mean nothing. Professionals use ff and crop for different purposes, not because one produces better image quality. One of the main reasons they use ff is bigger prints, the trouble is UA-cam and other media give out so much bullshit that people believe, then they convince themselves they need ff and save their money spend a fortune on ff and lenses and guess what? They still take crap pictures and that goes for a lot pro's to.
10 years ago there was a massive difference between ff and other sensors but nowadays the difference is very minimal, it's about knowing how to take good photographs, not what gear you have but UA-cam certainly has turned people into developing gear aquasition syndrome
. No point upgrading your gear and not your skills which is what most people do.
I understand the term perfectly but it can have different meanings in different context. In THIS context - i.e. comparing two cameras from the same manufacturer - the D7100 is NOT a pro body and the D810 is (which is also how Nikon itself looks at the cameras - actually historically Nikon classified only the top model - currently the D5 as PRO body - but I think that the D810 can still be considered PRO even by Nikon's standard's these days).
During the whole video you stand behind that camera doing what?You trying to hold the camera like you will star shooting something and eventually did nothing.
Eight ten, seventy one hundred lol
Why would you turn these cameras screen down onto a plank of wood ?? Jesus H.
Overexposed face, dirty and ugly t-shirt. Otherwise pretty good.