My plan for this spring is to try fily fishing for pike in my local waters here in Michigan. I'll be starting off with my 9wt St. Croix Avid. Can you provide a list of materials and lengths that you used in the video?
Why not use the perfection loop like we do here? Also add a drop of zap-a-gap,or super glue and that's secure enough for 53"+ pike. Leader we build out of 49 strand 40-50lbs line with a mustad size 2 or 4 fast-attach snaps. No swivels
Pogo Pike I use Vision big momma and big daddy fly lines and these have loops on either end. So indeed we loop leader into the fly line and the trace into the leader, all loop-in-loop so the only hardware is the fast-attach snap 🙂👍
Interesting leader setup that I’m going to try. Question though; I feel like the swivel would cause the leader system to hinge during the casting stroke. Does this not happen or do you have to alter your cast somewhat from a regular leader system to prevent it from hinging?
Love this set up. It’s my new “go to” however I do have a question. Now that all my flies have 8” of bite guard on them, how do I store them? What do you use for fly box? I’m guessing if I have them in there current box the leader will become bent with memory. Might be a pain to try and straighten out while fishing. Curious to see your set up on storage. Thanks!
Tell us more about the 9 weight leader system you use thanks
This is now 100% my new set up!!!!!
Thank you!
Awesome tips there Pogo! Thank you.
Nice job Pogo, a lot of great info there! Good luck this year, it is upon us!!!!!!
Great info thanks, I'm going to try fly fishing for pike this season, subbed!
Just had to revisit you leader/bite guards...going out Wednesday to some Tiger Muskie water. Miss ya bud!
Awesome info!! Thanks for sharing. No Muskie in my area, but plenty of Pike ;-)
awesome cat , really enjoyed it, thank you.
Love the “haven’t broken a tooth yet” because whenever I do that people ask why I don’t use clippers. I also do not use clips
My plan for this spring is to try fily fishing for pike in my local waters here in Michigan. I'll be starting off with my 9wt St. Croix Avid. Can you provide a list of materials and lengths that you used in the video?
Awesome video! Would you change leader size for an 8 wt rod ? Or stay the same? Thanks!
For pike or musky? For pike I maybe would. Maybe step it down a notch.
@@pogopike8340 Sorry, I was referring to Pike on an 8 wt
@@danzaremba6500 All good. Depends on the rod as well. Chippewa River Custom one piece 8wt can handle a beefy leader.
It’s the best pike rod period.
You could sub that barrel swivel out with the flouro swivel out on the market... Just a suggestion
DallasLopez1 awesome to know. I will def look into. Thanks!
Your videos are very informative! I didn’t catch what type of knot you use to tie the fly to the bite guard. Is it a non-slip loop? Thanks.
Spin & Fly Guy thanks so much. Just a basic clinch knot. Depending what pound test 3 to 5 turns.
pogo. thanks for this video. im currently setting up a few leader like this. I had a question about how you attach your bite guard to the fly?
jeff BERNAEYGE thanks man. 95% of the time I just use a basic clinch knot. Wrap around 3 times or so and tighten down.
Hey there Pogo I tried to buy from your kit but there seems to be a problem with the link, thought I should make you aware
Dumb question since I'm not a fly fisherman. What's the advantage of zap a gap over regular super glue?
More water resistant I believe
Why not use the perfection loop like we do here? Also add a drop of zap-a-gap,or super glue and that's secure enough for 53"+ pike. Leader we build out of 49 strand 40-50lbs line with a mustad size 2 or 4 fast-attach snaps. No swivels
Most fly lines for pike musky here don’t come with a welded loop at the end. If that’s what you mean. Thanks for the feedback!
Pogo Pike I use Vision big momma and big daddy fly lines and these have loops on either end. So indeed we loop leader into the fly line and the trace into the leader, all loop-in-loop so the only hardware is the fast-attach snap 🙂👍
Thanks so much. What wt rod do u recommend.
Pike 8 or 9 at. Musky 9 or 10 wt
Interesting leader setup that I’m going to try. Question though; I feel like the swivel would cause the leader system to hinge during the casting stroke. Does this not happen or do you have to alter your cast somewhat from a regular leader system to prevent it from hinging?
Chris Thompson good question. It does not, with such heavy material and big flies it’s bueno!
Love this set up.
It’s my new “go to” however I do have a question.
Now that all my flies have 8” of bite guard on them, how do I store them? What do you use for fly box?
I’m guessing if I have them in there current box the leader will become bent with memory.
Might be a pain to try and straighten out while fishing.
Curious to see your set up on storage.
Thanks!
My question also. Im thinking a Tarpon leader/fly stretcher...??
looks good!!! thanks"
What was it that you use for the bite guard? And what do you use for your main line
Duck_hunter_6883 I use Quattro high seas 80lbs. And blue label seager for leader. Fly line check out my rod and line video.
Hi, have you ever used a glass rod for Muskie?
Hey Pogo, do you see any issue running ~3 ft 30lb salt hard mono to a barrel swivel with bite guard with a lock snap on the end?
Thomas Smith the snap to the fly works well. You never bring the bite guard in for the figure 8 anyway. But use heavy bite guard. I use 80lbs
Which knot do you use for the loop in the bite guard?
Do u ever use a 2 hook system
I don’t. What’s that exactly?
@@pogopike8340 2 hooks on one fly
@@jakehahturner5584 yes.
You in MN!? Honestly, people laugh at me for fly fishing our lakes and “non-trout” rivers.
Regardless, great video! Using for this year :)
Nathan Nielsen thanks so much! I am in CT but fish Wisco for musky in the fall.
Tell them to go f**k themselves.
Same leader on a 8 to 12 weight rig?
Yes sir. Musky I use 50 & 40 lbs. Pike 40 to 30
why dont you use non slip loop knot to fly?
Mr. Kotter -🎉 let’s bring on disclosure
You bet! Think of the fish well catch 🤣
Great info. Just came cross your UA-cam channel. Don’t have face book. Can I get to premo tail with out face book. Thanks
Try musky fool on IG. I don’t sell
Nice strong leader setup. Another more time should be spent discussing / showing the knots you are using.