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When inteoduced, and even now, Hindenburgs strength is range and shell velocity. Only Moskva surpasses Hindenburg in velocity and ranged, but the Russian is much more clumsy, has no turtleback and is battleship huge.
esp. since these days you have nearly no impact on your WR, most team are potatoes, they turn and run at first sight of red and you can just sit there and watch how the game falls apart
Community: Why do you insist on not nerfing IFHE ships or the skill itself to weaken this cancer meta WG: Community: Hindenburg IFHE is quite effective against the Kremlin's 60mm deck WG: *BALANS TEAM, STALIN CALLS TO WORK, AND WORK YOU MUST, OR TO GOOLAG YOU GO!!!!*
Had the most fun experience just the other day in clan battles- there was a Kremlin on the enemy team who spammed HE the entire game and was more or less melting my Yamato regardless of what I did. I think we ended up losing that match for other reasons but, that was definitely something just- dumb. Kremlin needs reworking- as well as maybe some sources as to where these Sekret Dokuments came from. Otherwise- very well summed up o7
I hate to be that guy....but for the record the IFHE rework was first announced as being in the works before the Kremlin was a thing (which initially had 50mm plating).
4:58 looks too perfect, almost staged. Like someone told them For my team to look as potato as possible i need to have one Yamato reversing into the other one
WOWS really has been downhill ever since it was just IJN, USN, and KM. When it was just those three nations, they all had distinct, unique traits that balanced pros and cons very well. It kept everything more balanced between classes and nations. I'm highlighting tier 10 ships for each nation because they exemplified each the traits of each nation's classes the most... ---USN--- Des Moines - radar, hydro (albeit not the best), best AA, but had weaker guns with lofty shell trajectory and a low fire starting chance (role was more of that of a "support" ship). Gearing - maneuverable, fast firing guns, decent torps, and excellent smokes (played the role of nimble, close range gunboat that was ideal for capping). Montana - weakest of the 3 nation's BBs but had excellent dispersion, good AA, best healing consumables (played the role more of a cruiser killing BB since it was over-matched by Yammy & GK) ---IJN--- Zao - excellent guns with a high fire starting chance, excellent concealment, but low hp pool, poor maneuverability, and lacked consumables (played the role of longer range fire starter). Shimakaze - outstanding torps and good concealment but otherwise weak in close range encounters (role was torp boat) Yamato - monster guns with devastating AP but weak AA, poor maneuverability, and mediocre consumables (role was massive standoffish BB killer) ---KM--- Hindenburg - excellent shell trajectory, best AP, probably the best armored of the cruisers, and good hydro but not very stealthy or maneuverable (role was citadeling/killing enemy cruisers) Z-52 - weakest of the DDs (and most underwhelming of all the ships from the original 3 nations). Decent guns if used properly (when to use AP or the newly introduced IFHE) and had hydro to spot nearby DDs. Otherwise, Z-52 was a meh addition and lacked a distinct enough role unlike all the other t10s at this time. On top of that, poor torpedoes. (role was always unclear and highly circumstantial which is why it wasn't a very good addition. Perhaps the German DD line was a harbinger of the many mistakes to come). GKurfurst - heavily armored, big guns with poor dispersion, but excellent secondaries. Truly brought a new, fun, and exciting role with those secondaries (role was that of a "brawler"). ------------------------------------------------------------------- Now... all the unique traits of these cruisers, DDs, and BBs are mashed together into these new, very poorly thought out lines which really have made the game worse. Out of control power-creeping that turn top-performing ships into an uncompetitive, obsolete ships that collect dust in port. Long-range, standoff snooze fests. General unpredictability by developers making rash decisions that can completely change the effectiveness of a ship with one update. Ugh.. As for cruisers... radar is ridiculous now, it's everywhere in t10 matches making DD play far less aggressive. Also, there are too many cruisers that are simply firestarting machines that force BB players to sit way too far back . As for DDs... nothing unique has been added to the new DD lines except for giving most DDs ridiculously high speed (to run away from radar). As for BBs... the addition of fire spamming BBs (French, British) have just added to the excessive fire spamming that cruisers already brought too much of. And there are too many BBs with excellent secondaries. What really gets my goat is that my favorite ship, the Kurfurst, has been reduced to being a burning barge with no-longer exceptional secondaries which it can rarely use anyways thanks to all the fires. Sorry for the rant but the game is such an unbalanced mess now. WG can't go a month without making short-sighted changes that result in terrible power-creeping (often due to the introduction of a new Russian supership).
It's actually the other way around. WG HATES Germans. Thats why they make BB'S obsolete, which are specialized in secondary close range brawling builds, through HE Spammers. German torps have no range, german BB's have no accuracy and the only thing that made them good, the armor is obsolete thanks to big guns that overmatch everything.
The buff to the reload made the ship good. We all know WG won't allow anything German to be good. So they;re pushing out this IFHE change knowing it makes Hindenburg useless. No bias, comrade.
Exactly what I was thinking... first two buffs in short order and a suitable captain, even if he is expensive... and now this? One hand does not know what the other is doing I guess
Ships like the Hindenburg, Zao and Des Moin are still where they were when Tier X wasn't full of gimmicks. Back when the game was actually balanced well. It just shows you how much this game has gone downhill since then with all the shit they've added. In 2019 they basically fucked this game with the CV rework. Then they added all these HE spammers; this made people start camping harder than ever. Aggressive fun play is now punished (especially by CVs) and sniping and HE spamming is the norm now. It's like they want to ruin this game and drive people who've been there since release away whilst pandering to the lowest common denominator. Sometimes I think the aim bug is intentional; so people dont bother trying to citadel and instead play ships that excel at fire starting whilst also getting away with showing broadside.
Broadside no longer really matters if you are in a cruiser though, you'll get citadel hits to hell and back anyway so might aswell sit behind islands rolling your thumb. WG really doesn't seem to know what they are doing.
Sad watching this game slowly head down the spiral as WoT did so many years earlier. Sorry for walloftext that follows, but this video (and some others I've seen lately) tipped me into a rant, LOL. At one stage WoT was a genuinely good, entertaining and reasonably balanced game. SKILL and KNOWLEDGE (of the maps, of your vehicle's strengths and weaknesses and those of opposing vehicles, of reading the map and knowing when a fight was worth it or whether to refuse a flank and many other things besides) were vital to consistently good, let alone excellent, performance. Then WG of course "needed" to find ways to make more money, so they took the laziest and easiest route, which is to say they dumbed it down to cast the net as wide as possible in terms of potential players. Game became a brainless load of crap full of straight up better ammunition that threw balance out the window and of course made it so much more legitimate to claim it was "pay2win". As an aside, I played in a Clan for a while, and clan wars were the ONLY battles in which you would EVER see what was then called 'gold' ammo (because it cost gold, which was obtained through certain events, clan wars, or you bought with money). You HAD to have gold ammo in clan wars because your opponents would be using it and winning/holding territory is what earned your clan gold. If you didn't use it, the difference in battle performance was ridiculously obvious, doubly so in an environment of an entire team operating on comms and following a plan because it wasn't as though you'd get lots of shots where normal ammo was perfectly fine. Nope, an ammo choice that negated much of a vehicle's armour simply tipped the scales SO far in favour of the person shooting it that everyone used it. And then, of course, they opened the floodgates by making it available for in game credits, a wonderful way of hiding "pay for hugely better performance" and the follow up "and the only way to do that reliably is to have premium account and/or tanks". A few years ago a friend's son (yeah, I'm getting old) loaded WoT and asked me to show him as he knew I'd been a 'decent player' with a lot of knowledge. Went into a tier 3 battle. Two things stood out. First of all, premium/gold ammo was flying everywhere. Secondly, we lost the battle because 2 light tanks capping the enemy base and thus winning chose to stop that to run back and attack a heavy tank capping our base. They both died, we lost. That behaviour reminded me of the OTHER reason I quit WG games, LOL. On top of that they added the barrage of increasingly absurd and in some cases outright broken tanks. Game was at its peak in terms of balance and the importance of skill and knowledge just before they brought in tier 10 TDs and, especially, premium ammo for credits. I played WoT from Beta in 2010. Quit years ago (between 11k-12k games from memory) as it went more and more blatantly in the direction of a low skilled money grab. The Clan friends I had also generally stopped playing. Well I also played WoWS from Alpha until about 6 months after release. The problems I and others predicted during those test phases all came to pass and WG made it clear they weren't interested in making the BEST game they could, they were interested in making it good enough to make the highest profit possible. As someone who's been a contract business consultant moving between large financial institutions, mainly banks and insurance companies, I have no problem at all with a profit motive. But there's a difference between being a top quality operation and being a B-grade "do the bare minimum necessary to enable ways of making a profit, including treating your customers as poorly as you can get away with". WG is the latter. I suspect, sadly, WoWS will go the way of WoT. It's already showing a lot of similarities. A shame they did this when the experience could have been so different. It's certainly easier and cheaper to meet lowest common denominator expectations and make game design choices accordingly than risk being more demanding of yourselves with the inevitable increased costs of doing so. That you potentially becoming even more successful through quality, something that also has the bonus of giving you a fantastic reputation on which to build for your next project, apparently doesn't come into it. Such is how I remember devs like Microprose, SSI and the original Blizzard to name a few. How long before WoWS gets like WoT in that only newbies, lunatics or those with OCD will play it?
Yeah, I agree entirely. I played wot for several years but stopped in around 2015ish? I had around 8kish battles if I remember correctly. It was when the wtf op 100 came out, the one that could one clip a maus with ease. I was so surprised playing wows by how much better it was, you could actually afford to get ships and run good consumables without premium. The premium ships that came out were (mostly) balanced and not wildly op. I remember thinking this can't last. I remember thinking about how op russian ships were going to be when the german lines first came out (I used to joke that russian dd = cruiser, cruiser = battleship, battleship = star destroyer and carrier planes will drop battleships as bombs). In the end, wows just went exactly how I thought it would, op premiums, op russian ships, power creeped ship lines (seriously buff the german battleships they are useless in current meta...) and cash grab events. Now they are even adding submarines. I have not played wows since they announced that, and the one time I considered playing it again they did the whole Puerto Rico fiasco and I just noped out. Edit: oh no it was 2013 that abomination came out, its been even longer than I thought since I last played wot. Second edit:ua-cam.com/video/tZbUWjOeRss/v-deo.html oh look more op russian ships... Hurray.
Ngl I'm new to WG. I'm no Rommel or Yamamoto but I think I've got some skill. So when I see retards in T49 light tanks drive straight off cliffs then half an hour later see one Amagi fire on another for 5 whole minutes! Before they realise it's on the same team, you just think "why?!" Tanks, we should accept the idiots. It's far less taxing on the old processor and a player should really only need to master when and how to shoot in order to be decent. But warships... It's an intellectual game, I mean I'm new to the stage but I feel like I'm navigating the battle of Jutland half the time as it is. Why must Wargaming ruin every single game they churn out (warthunder excluded) for sake of simpletons and millionaires?????? WHYYYYY???😭🤦🤦
@@Dorakyura88 why rip yoshino? No one has IFHE because its a blatantly clear waste of 4 points, the yoshino is an HE sniper, always has been so IMO it wont really be affected by the ifhe rework at all really
@@lollipopmusashi8588 ok fair but the yoshino has one thing the hindy doesnt, and thats a 30% fire chance, yeah you might not be able to pen the deck but you can definitely pen the side plating and super structure, and more likely than not you're gonna start a fire or 2, tbh id rather not run ifhe and not be able to pen the deck of like one ship and keep that 30% fire chance even after the rework than waste 4 points that i could put into either even more AA or survivability, and honestly its the same thing with the hindy, yeah sure i could put the 4 points into ifhe and be able to pen 100% of anywhere on ships i want in the game or i could put them elsewhere and still be able to pen like 99% of the ships anywhere in the game, its honestly a really niche skill but hey everyone has their own playstyle
I've started playing this game in 2018, so I don't know the earlier reality but have gone through a couple of changes in between. What I can say is that the game is really getting dumbed down to a point where, even if you grind your way into tier 10, learn how to play some ships the hard way (winning and losing in Randoms), you can still get wacked by a lucky shot from someone who happened to buy a premium or free XPed him/herself into tier 10 battles. Since then, playing DDs is becoming a masochist way of gaming, using BBs is being a sailing barbecue piñata for HE and Cruisers will be rendered useless once you cannot even try to angle. I don't play CVs, so I won't talk about it.
I played a game in the Hindy last night and we won because someone yelled out on chat "don't get effing over-run", and suddenly everyone started moving forward. It was great !!
Flamu do you mind tell us the mods your are using to get this 'improved' graphics? like a quick video or just a list of links if they are more than one...
@@lennart7553 End of the patience road, I believe. I know, I'm near the end myself. Sick of the same 15v15 routine, sick of being unrewarded even if you played well but your team screwed the pooch and frankly major sick of so called "fun events" that have become a cover for unreasonable grinding. WG, as expected, has taken fun out of one of their games yet again.
The change to the as mod only helps in one scenario and that is if the CV makes multiple attacks, if it doesn't it's a wasted slot. DDs tend to get hit slot by multi attacks so I guess it helps since good timing can ensure your as is always up. For larger ships though those two extra flack bursts would often cover the gaps left for planes to maneuver
So Flamu, do you recommend IFHE for Hindenburgh right now with the rework? I reset my skills yesterday but not using IFHE, right now My chances of fire are 15% + 2% with flags, do you recommend Chances of fire or IFHE rework?
the funny thing is, when i say that american and german ships could enjoy some love from wg and the soviet are comming with bias... some people say i'm crazy. but look at this video, think about Montana, GK and Hinder and take a look on the soviet ships. the soviet navy wasan't even close to be as big as one of the big 4 navys [RN, USN, IJN and the German], but they ships are stronger. like there is a ton of things they could do to at least show some love for ships from these navys. they don't need to be overpowed, but make they respected. Poor montana for exemple could enjoy those improved angles and a even higher penetracion on his shells... Gk could enjoy that acc that gets better in close distances. ships there was supose to be especial in some way are not even close to be anymore. Like a Moskva can probably tank way better than a hindeburg. [i would not mind a armor buff on the hindeburg to make him a tanky cruiser again].
I wouldn't even put the German navy in the top 4... (That goes to Italy) But your point is well made. I think WG have done some good things, but they don't "respect" ships that have actual service records. They need to spend an entire patch or three dedicated to changes that make the game better for older ship lines, lower tiers, etc.
@@Viper-dn8ix I only put them there because they had a good number of well know ships and the tech was actually really good on the ships. Bismark's hull for example, hold a ton of shells. I didn't know Italy had that much of ships... I mean, they had to fight RN, so they had a TopDog against them, but I really didnt know it. My point? Sure to ships with records and medals of service like NC... But even the balance of the game is suffering for this, as well the ships who did exist and have good records under they name.
@@thiagosantiago1704 The reason why is because the valiant ships of the Navys you mentioned actually saw service in the most part, or at least a derivative of each vessel, so they have some realistic ground work to build the ships from. The soviets on the other hand are completely out of the ball park because they were never produced nor anything close to them and they have none of that to ground them in reality either.
@@therealwildboar1007 they didnt have the industries to build the plates of the BBs... Like the armor they have on the game. Or the gun systems or even the guns itself. My point is more like they did a line of ships there would never exist and made them even better of the ones who actually exist or was close to be build (like FDG and Monty). Lets not even talk about the cruisers.
@@thiagosantiago1704 I'd also argue that German ships are more well known than their American and British counterparts, so yeah. Worthy inclusion. I'd actually be willing to bet the most popular trees are Germany and Japan.
Nice video as usual. I have just unlocked the Roon, and built it with IFHE and turret traverse module. So far a fun ship. Nice DPM, nice HE and AP DMG. What comes with IFHE rework we will see. I have heard somewhere that they will buff German BB secondaries and they will be able pen 32 mm without IFHE. That would be nice on (secondary built) GK, so that those 4 points could go to survival.
@@TwoCraZyEyes0 Not so rare as you may think, either way the 25mm plates everywhere means it eats full pens from nearly everything that shoots at it. If it had a normal heal it'd be easily the worst tier 10 cruiser. Honestly for something thats meant to tank fire it should at least have 30-35mm plates and not that stupid step citadel.
Q: should take IFHE for my 2ndaries on Bismarck, F.DG, and G.KF? and should go with complete 2ndary build on all three of them or take the main gun accuracy module?
Had a lot of fun with the Japanese Gunboat DD line. If you don't want to play DD's i would recommend French BB's they have a very unique playstill in my opinon.
@@literallyartemis Yes, Japanese DD's before the Gunboat relly on their torpedos to do damage, you will have to play with your detection in mind and try to stealth torp (Don't forget that you have guns though they are quiet good) This stays the same for the Gunboat line until T8 when you get the Akizuki which you then play more light a light Cruiser. Generally building towords gun reload is recommended since you only have 1 Torpedo launcher from Akizuki onwords. Kitakaze is a bit underwhelming for a T9 but it's a decent ship, and finally at T10 the Harugumo is still an absolute Monster when it comes to DPM. So you should learn to use the Islands as cover when and were to use ur smocke and Reload booster for the Torps that kind of stuff :)
Fire Chance = FRC · ( 1 - DCM1 ) · ( 1 - FP ) · ( FCB - IFHE + DE + Σ S ) This is the formula to calculate the coefficient reduction each ship has to the fire chance base (FCB) percentage shown in each ships description. The values used in this formula varies for each ship, hull, tier, and shell. WG only ask that you discover this easy to find information on your own and please use a calculator. You could be banned for wasting state mind power. Welcome to WG comrade commander.
I like that the enemy team can just stay around the cap and just win the game, but of course they need to go full potato and push into the other team's spawn.
so it's a heavy cruiser with none of the perks of being a heavy cruiser what's the point of a heavy cruiser if it's armor can be penetrated from any angle
"smack it" isn't really the good term. Hindi will still be powerful enough without IFHE to pen 50mm armors. Unlike what Flamu is saying, this ship won't see any difference. HOWEVER, one ship will again be nerf to the ground and it is Henri IV.
Hot take, that camping pink Yamato player was a big brain player. His questionable playstyle actually contributed to the win in some way. - Being all the way back down ended up creating new crossfires against the enemy Yammy pushing south mid game, then ends up flanking both the Republique and Kremlin in the late game - HE against angled Kremlin, ends up burning him down for the kill whereas AP would have just bounced because russian armor bias. Also stacked double fires on the Repub, even if AP may have been devastating
I know that the IFHE Rework is a is now in the game for a while but even with IFHE the Light Cruisers cant pen American BB Deck Armor because they only reach up to 37mm of penetration
I'm getting really board with the broad stroke approach WG keep having to try and "fix" things. The issues IFHE caused needed to be looked at on a ship by ship basis.
5:00 that sounds in line with what I’ve seen this weekend Once a Iowa and Montana division ran away from a winning fight Then a Yamato hugged me in a carrier which made the game unnecessarily close.
The best fire starting ship after the conquerer and smolensk IMO would have to be the yoshino, it has great range a good reload like a 30% fire chance with a full build and is very accurate, i average around 15 fires a game and its more common than not if i get an arsonist and witherer
Why that water look so clear in every youtuber? Is it like some settings or something? I have funl grapichs settings and i just think it doesnt Look good like in this vid??
Flambass said in his video today that a sign of a good Battleship game is having very little HP and no heals at the end, still being alive, and having done a relevant amount of damage or contributions to the team. These two battleships from this game were full HP, probably did 20-30k each, and contributed absolutely nothing to the team. But they lived, so obviously it was Flamu's fault for not going to C like they pinged him to do. =P
Not sure if you’ll read this since the video is a little old by now, but now that the IFHE rework is upon us i’m hoping that you’ll be showing off your new hindenburg build while the free respecs are still available
lot of things i don't get he spamming bb in tier 10, when i am in a tier 8 and most of the team is in 10's and we get our ass handed to us and i'm in the top 3 how did they get to tier 10? on the na sometimes i think most of them think the game runs 5 minutes and you win if you get sunk first.
Flamu, in fairness most of the BBs in this match were already in the game when Hindenburg was added and overmatched it just fine back then too, holly Yammy spam...
How I handle weekends should be a lesson to everyone: hit battle button and start trashing your team as they make mistakes. The joys of this out weigh the ultimate chat ban that results.
I'm so happy a CC with more reputation in this game then I ever will have has pointed out that the change to AA guns mod 1 was a nerf, I've been trying to get the community to notice this but I keep being called stupid and crazy. Thx for pointing that out Flamu :) also gj on almost getting the 100k followers, you deserve it! :)
Its difficult for many players to understand the game bc theres no official guide, many mechanics are hidden, and WG keeps fuking changing things. That's why teams are a sht show.
Ahh rip t10. It was fun for a few years. 5 years into this game and I've seen the standard of play at t10 slowly but surely crumble down into a state of madness. It is like an alternate universe where logic doesn't matter.
to be fair, at least with us bb's, its basically impossible to get anywhere ear the battlefield now, you just have to sit back at like 20km+ range and pray to god the rng gives you a good salvo or two. This is particularly bad with the iowa atm, as it just feels nearly usles in a game. If the Iowa pushes up, it gets insta killed and you got no chanse of turning away or youre gonna get citadeled, if you stay back, you dont really help your team much becasue bb guns are far to unreliable.
This weekend had the WORST players online than I've ever seen before. Unwinable teams over and over, the level of play has regressed along with WG's questionable patch updates.
Wargaming should slap this all over its "Armada" channel, a micro battleship of a cruiser more capable than Odin/Siegfried and more like a rapid-fire Scharnhorst if you ask me
Question - if I uninstall WoWs, do I lose my accumulated ships etc? Or can I re-install at a later date and pick up where I left off if WG manages to unf*ck the game?
FlyngSnoopy Your account stays so long as you remember your login details (email/password). Uninstalling WOWS has no effect on your account, and you can return to it at any time.
So long as you don't forget your account name and password you'll be fine. The installation on your PC is just the game files, your ships etc are all stored on the server. You could erase your whole PC, or buy a new one, install WoWs fresh and log in and all your ships will be there.
Thanks for the help! Right now the game is just taking up space and I haven't played in a while, so I'll just uninstall. Used to love playing my Fletcher, Z-52, and cruisers. The game seems to be changing so much that I don't want to spend the time or the money anymore 'till things settle, hopefully for the better but we'll see! Going to play more Cold Waters now.
IFHE change needs mid tiers and the Hindy/Henri. The real dakka dakka HE spammers Japanese gun boats won't be hit too hard by this change and Smolensk doesn't even need to to take down a BB quickly. Go job we have a new crusier line split coming with super fast, improved angles, hiigh pen AP
I beg to differ. I play the mobile game with a Minotaur. Battling against the Hindenburg is like facing a Battleship. Even with low health it deals heavy damage to my Cruiser and moves fast as hell. My torps miss nearly every time.
Yashima being added will just make cruiser armor even more useless. A worrying trend to say the least. Thank you for your support!
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Yeah. More of the beautiful Overmatch BS mechanic. Nice Video. Also First x)
Remember they don't make justice for ijn premiums, so expect it to be worse than yammy
@@mirkomihovilovic1142 #AtagostillbestIJNpremium, Change my mind.
@@beherith2874 still the best one indeed
When inteoduced, and even now, Hindenburgs strength is range and shell velocity. Only Moskva surpasses Hindenburg in velocity and ranged, but the Russian is much more clumsy, has no turtleback and is battleship huge.
The most impressive feat isn’t maintaining a high winrate it’s maintaining like for the game
I quit because of too many games like this, it's just not enjoyable.
yep! 5 years later... uninstalled 3 weeks ago and don't miss a fucking thing!
They've thoroughly killed it. I moved to Ultimate Admiral: Dreadnought. :D Building them is fun :D
esp. since these days you have nearly no impact on your WR, most team are potatoes, they turn and run at first sight of red and you can just sit there and watch how the game falls apart
Sad but true. Watching these kind of videos just makes it harder and harder to want to play the game.
Community: Why do you insist on not nerfing IFHE ships or the skill itself to weaken this cancer meta
WG:
Community: Hindenburg IFHE is quite effective against the Kremlin's 60mm deck
WG: *BALANS TEAM, STALIN CALLS TO WORK, AND WORK YOU MUST, OR TO GOOLAG YOU GO!!!!*
Had the most fun experience just the other day in clan battles- there was a Kremlin on the enemy team who spammed HE the entire game and was more or less melting my Yamato regardless of what I did. I think we ended up losing that match for other reasons but, that was definitely something just- dumb. Kremlin needs reworking- as well as maybe some sources as to where these Sekret Dokuments came from.
Otherwise- very well summed up o7
CCCP Yoda
I hate to be that guy....but for the record the IFHE rework was first announced as being in the works before the Kremlin was a thing (which initially had 50mm plating).
The Kremlin must always stand proud and strong, comrade.
@@user-gv4zb9rc6u don't use yamato at clan battles..... It's potato bb
4:58 looks too perfect, almost staged. Like someone told them
For my team to look as potato as possible i need to have one Yamato reversing into the other one
WOWS really has been downhill ever since it was just IJN, USN, and KM. When it was just those three nations, they all had distinct, unique traits that balanced pros and cons very well. It kept everything more balanced between classes and nations. I'm highlighting tier 10 ships for each nation because they exemplified each the traits of each nation's classes the most...
---USN---
Des Moines - radar, hydro (albeit not the best), best AA, but had weaker guns with lofty shell trajectory and a low fire starting chance (role was more of that of a "support" ship).
Gearing - maneuverable, fast firing guns, decent torps, and excellent smokes (played the role of nimble, close range gunboat that was ideal for capping).
Montana - weakest of the 3 nation's BBs but had excellent dispersion, good AA, best healing consumables (played the role more of a cruiser killing BB since it was over-matched by Yammy & GK)
---IJN---
Zao - excellent guns with a high fire starting chance, excellent concealment, but low hp pool, poor maneuverability, and lacked consumables (played the role of longer range fire starter).
Shimakaze - outstanding torps and good concealment but otherwise weak in close range encounters (role was torp boat)
Yamato - monster guns with devastating AP but weak AA, poor maneuverability, and mediocre consumables (role was massive standoffish BB killer)
---KM---
Hindenburg - excellent shell trajectory, best AP, probably the best armored of the cruisers, and good hydro but not very stealthy or maneuverable (role was citadeling/killing enemy cruisers)
Z-52 - weakest of the DDs (and most underwhelming of all the ships from the original 3 nations). Decent guns if used properly (when to use AP or the newly introduced IFHE) and had hydro to spot nearby DDs. Otherwise, Z-52 was a meh addition and lacked a distinct enough role unlike all the other t10s at this time. On top of that, poor torpedoes. (role was always unclear and highly circumstantial which is why it wasn't a very good addition. Perhaps the German DD line was a harbinger of the many mistakes to come).
GKurfurst - heavily armored, big guns with poor dispersion, but excellent secondaries. Truly brought a new, fun, and exciting role with those secondaries (role was that of a "brawler").
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Now... all the unique traits of these cruisers, DDs, and BBs are mashed together into these new, very poorly thought out lines which really have made the game worse. Out of control power-creeping that turn top-performing ships into an uncompetitive, obsolete ships that collect dust in port. Long-range, standoff snooze fests. General unpredictability by developers making rash decisions that can completely change the effectiveness of a ship with one update. Ugh..
As for cruisers... radar is ridiculous now, it's everywhere in t10 matches making DD play far less aggressive. Also, there are too many cruisers that are simply firestarting machines that force BB players to sit way too far back .
As for DDs... nothing unique has been added to the new DD lines except for giving most DDs ridiculously high speed (to run away from radar).
As for BBs... the addition of fire spamming BBs (French, British) have just added to the excessive fire spamming that cruisers already brought too much of. And there are too many BBs with excellent secondaries. What really gets my goat is that my favorite ship, the Kurfurst, has been reduced to being a burning barge with no-longer exceptional secondaries which it can rarely use anyways thanks to all the fires.
Sorry for the rant but the game is such an unbalanced mess now. WG can't go a month without making short-sighted changes that result in terrible power-creeping (often due to the introduction of a new Russian supership).
Germans hates IFHE changes, in fact Germans hates WG
4:59 the actual state of TX matches right now.
as a german in can confirm both statements ....
It's actually the other way around. WG HATES Germans. Thats why they make BB'S obsolete, which are specialized in secondary close range brawling builds, through HE Spammers.
German torps have no range, german BB's have no accuracy and the only thing that made them good, the armor is obsolete thanks to big guns that overmatch everything.
Gtifighter not to mention armour is nothing against fire.
'' Germans hate IFHE change ''
128mm secondaries now pen 32mm without IFHE.
I mean, no, not all Germans.
@@dzello Did you see the date of the comment and you know the date of the aditional change to the german guns?
The buff to the reload made the ship good.
We all know WG won't allow anything German to be good.
So they;re pushing out this IFHE change knowing it makes Hindenburg useless.
No bias, comrade.
Feels like it's for the WG PC games only tho. The German tanks in wot blitz are actually quite good
Not useless but will become less effective if you want to do more raw damage to russian ships!
Plus I'm sure Germany won't be getting any 457mm version of GK to match up. Hilarious
@@gd527tt Yeah. They could get the H-44 Class
@@danielt2505 As a premium, of course
Well that Hindenbuff stayed fresh for along time lol
GG WG
Exactly what I was thinking... first two buffs in short order and a suitable captain, even if he is expensive... and now this? One hand does not know what the other is doing I guess
Ships like the Hindenburg, Zao and Des Moin are still where they were when Tier X wasn't full of gimmicks. Back when the game was actually balanced well. It just shows you how much this game has gone downhill since then with all the shit they've added.
In 2019 they basically fucked this game with the CV rework. Then they added all these HE spammers; this made people start camping harder than ever. Aggressive fun play is now punished (especially by CVs) and sniping and HE spamming is the norm now. It's like they want to ruin this game and drive people who've been there since release away whilst pandering to the lowest common denominator. Sometimes I think the aim bug is intentional; so people dont bother trying to citadel and instead play ships that excel at fire starting whilst also getting away with showing broadside.
Broadside no longer really matters if you are in a cruiser though, you'll get citadel hits to hell and back anyway so might aswell sit behind islands rolling your thumb. WG really doesn't seem to know what they are doing.
Sad watching this game slowly head down the spiral as WoT did so many years earlier.
Sorry for walloftext that follows, but this video (and some others I've seen lately) tipped me into a rant, LOL.
At one stage WoT was a genuinely good, entertaining and reasonably balanced game. SKILL and KNOWLEDGE (of the maps, of your vehicle's strengths and weaknesses and those of opposing vehicles, of reading the map and knowing when a fight was worth it or whether to refuse a flank and many other things besides) were vital to consistently good, let alone excellent, performance.
Then WG of course "needed" to find ways to make more money, so they took the laziest and easiest route, which is to say they dumbed it down to cast the net as wide as possible in terms of potential players. Game became a brainless load of crap full of straight up better ammunition that threw balance out the window and of course made it so much more legitimate to claim it was "pay2win".
As an aside, I played in a Clan for a while, and clan wars were the ONLY battles in which you would EVER see what was then called 'gold' ammo (because it cost gold, which was obtained through certain events, clan wars, or you bought with money). You HAD to have gold ammo in clan wars because your opponents would be using it and winning/holding territory is what earned your clan gold. If you didn't use it, the difference in battle performance was ridiculously obvious, doubly so in an environment of an entire team operating on comms and following a plan because it wasn't as though you'd get lots of shots where normal ammo was perfectly fine. Nope, an ammo choice that negated much of a vehicle's armour simply tipped the scales SO far in favour of the person shooting it that everyone used it.
And then, of course, they opened the floodgates by making it available for in game credits, a wonderful way of hiding "pay for hugely better performance" and the follow up "and the only way to do that reliably is to have premium account and/or tanks". A few years ago a friend's son (yeah, I'm getting old) loaded WoT and asked me to show him as he knew I'd been a 'decent player' with a lot of knowledge. Went into a tier 3 battle. Two things stood out. First of all, premium/gold ammo was flying everywhere. Secondly, we lost the battle because 2 light tanks capping the enemy base and thus winning chose to stop that to run back and attack a heavy tank capping our base. They both died, we lost. That behaviour reminded me of the OTHER reason I quit WG games, LOL.
On top of that they added the barrage of increasingly absurd and in some cases outright broken tanks. Game was at its peak in terms of balance and the importance of skill and knowledge just before they brought in tier 10 TDs and, especially, premium ammo for credits. I played WoT from Beta in 2010. Quit years ago (between 11k-12k games from memory) as it went more and more blatantly in the direction of a low skilled money grab. The Clan friends I had also generally stopped playing.
Well I also played WoWS from Alpha until about 6 months after release.
The problems I and others predicted during those test phases all came to pass and WG made it clear they weren't interested in making the BEST game they could, they were interested in making it good enough to make the highest profit possible. As someone who's been a contract business consultant moving between large financial institutions, mainly banks and insurance companies, I have no problem at all with a profit motive. But there's a difference between being a top quality operation and being a B-grade "do the bare minimum necessary to enable ways of making a profit, including treating your customers as poorly as you can get away with".
WG is the latter. I suspect, sadly, WoWS will go the way of WoT. It's already showing a lot of similarities.
A shame they did this when the experience could have been so different. It's certainly easier and cheaper to meet lowest common denominator expectations and make game design choices accordingly than risk being more demanding of yourselves with the inevitable increased costs of doing so. That you potentially becoming even more successful through quality, something that also has the bonus of giving you a fantastic reputation on which to build for your next project, apparently doesn't come into it. Such is how I remember devs like Microprose, SSI and the original Blizzard to name a few.
How long before WoWS gets like WoT in that only newbies, lunatics or those with OCD will play it?
Yeah, I agree entirely. I played wot for several years but stopped in around 2015ish? I had around 8kish battles if I remember correctly. It was when the wtf op 100 came out, the one that could one clip a maus with ease. I was so surprised playing wows by how much better it was, you could actually afford to get ships and run good consumables without premium. The premium ships that came out were (mostly) balanced and not wildly op. I remember thinking this can't last. I remember thinking about how op russian ships were going to be when the german lines first came out (I used to joke that russian dd = cruiser, cruiser = battleship, battleship = star destroyer and carrier planes will drop battleships as bombs).
In the end, wows just went exactly how I thought it would, op premiums, op russian ships, power creeped ship lines (seriously buff the german battleships they are useless in current meta...) and cash grab events. Now they are even adding submarines. I have not played wows since they announced that, and the one time I considered playing it again they did the whole Puerto Rico fiasco and I just noped out.
Edit: oh no it was 2013 that abomination came out, its been even longer than I thought since I last played wot.
Second edit:ua-cam.com/video/tZbUWjOeRss/v-deo.html oh look more op russian ships... Hurray.
Ngl I'm new to WG. I'm no Rommel or Yamamoto but I think I've got some skill.
So when I see retards in T49 light tanks drive straight off cliffs then half an hour later see one Amagi fire on another for 5 whole minutes! Before they realise it's on the same team, you just think "why?!"
Tanks, we should accept the idiots. It's far less taxing on the old processor and a player should really only need to master when and how to shoot in order to be decent.
But warships...
It's an intellectual game, I mean I'm new to the stage but I feel like I'm navigating the battle of Jutland half the time as it is. Why must Wargaming ruin every single game they churn out (warthunder excluded) for sake of simpletons and millionaires?????? WHYYYYY???😭🤦🤦
@@Silamon2 we know WG is secretly communist come on, have you seen the Mikhail Kutuzov lately? 😲 Ho-ly shiiiiit that things evil
Flamu: "Starting fire's isn't one of it's strengths."
on a completely unrelated note: "even though we get the witherer."
*takes another sip of rum...
Kids, this is the reason you don't smoke crack. You'll end up in a Flamu video playing a BB.
KEK
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rip Henri rip Hinden your 50mm pen will be remembered [*]
Henry is the most nerfed ship.. after the acceleration nerf they change ifhe.. it will be like the yueyang, never ever played anymore 😤
@@Dorakyura88 why rip yoshino? No one has IFHE because its a blatantly clear waste of 4 points, the yoshino is an HE sniper, always has been so IMO it wont really be affected by the ifhe rework at all really
@@halonut96 It allows you to pen kreml deck, I run it on mine
@@lollipopmusashi8588 ok fair but the yoshino has one thing the hindy doesnt, and thats a 30% fire chance, yeah you might not be able to pen the deck but you can definitely pen the side plating and super structure, and more likely than not you're gonna start a fire or 2, tbh id rather not run ifhe and not be able to pen the deck of like one ship and keep that 30% fire chance even after the rework than waste 4 points that i could put into either even more AA or survivability, and honestly its the same thing with the hindy, yeah sure i could put the 4 points into ifhe and be able to pen 100% of anywhere on ships i want in the game or i could put them elsewhere and still be able to pen like 99% of the ships anywhere in the game, its honestly a really niche skill but hey everyone has their own playstyle
@@halonut96 Well Yoshino's fire chance is actually lower than stalingrad's 35% at 27% which is honestly kinda underwhelming for IJN improved 310mm HE
So glorious gameplay by the BB division that really hurts your eyes seeing it😂
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I've started playing this game in 2018, so I don't know the earlier reality but have gone through a couple of changes in between. What I can say is that the game is really getting dumbed down to a point where, even if you grind your way into tier 10, learn how to play some ships the hard way (winning and losing in Randoms), you can still get wacked by a lucky shot from someone who happened to buy a premium or free XPed him/herself into tier 10 battles.
Since then, playing DDs is becoming a masochist way of gaming, using BBs is being a sailing barbecue piñata for HE and Cruisers will be rendered useless once you cannot even try to angle. I don't play CVs, so I won't talk about it.
I played a game in the Hindy last night and we won because someone yelled out on chat "don't get effing over-run", and suddenly everyone started moving forward. It was great !!
Flamu do you mind tell us the mods your are using to get this 'improved' graphics? like a quick video or just a list of links if they are more than one...
It's on aslains mod pack.
@@snafufubar is possible to find this 'aslains' on that mod thing from wg?
@@thiagosantiago1704 Look for aslain's wows modpack on internet. It's pretty much one of the first packs created for the game
oh wow we have a search engine where we can discover practically anything right here for our usage why dont you use it
@@suzuhuasca i didn't understand your comment, even if it looks like sarcasm I didn't even get it (the sarcasm).
at this point the 30mm armor on DM/salem is just a nerf to monty/GK...
This game is lost to me after years of playing...
And why now?
@@lennart7553 End of the patience road, I believe. I know, I'm near the end myself. Sick of the same 15v15 routine, sick of being unrewarded even if you played well but your team screwed the pooch and frankly major sick of so called "fun events" that have become a cover for unreasonable grinding. WG, as expected, has taken fun out of one of their games yet again.
5:58 The classic "Go to the corner of the map" retort. Cracks me up every time.
The change to the as mod only helps in one scenario and that is if the CV makes multiple attacks, if it doesn't it's a wasted slot. DDs tend to get hit slot by multi attacks so I guess it helps since good timing can ensure your as is always up. For larger ships though those two extra flack bursts would often cover the gaps left for planes to maneuver
So Flamu, do you recommend IFHE for Hindenburgh right now with the rework? I reset my skills yesterday but not using IFHE, right now My chances of fire are 15% + 2% with flags, do you recommend Chances of fire or IFHE rework?
Well dd's have been nerfed into the ground cruisers are next I guess. Cant wait for bb only vs bb games
Russian server + Weekend, what kind of players were you expecting?
They are not better on EU iether
@@Tasukete_22 I can agree, but russians are very special.
It was on EU Server. Comments in the Background has been German.
NA server here looks the same here it’s infuriating 🤬
Flamu: "I'm going to take a sip of my rum."
Translation: "I'm going to repeated smash the clicker on the mouse until I get a response from the BBs"
This match was so painful to watch.
Just got the moskva, can I stiil get the the Misson for legendary upgrade? Had a few games with it but no mission so far. Any recommendations? Thanks
the funny thing is, when i say that american and german ships could enjoy some love from wg and the soviet are comming with bias... some people say i'm crazy. but look at this video, think about Montana, GK and Hinder and take a look on the soviet ships. the soviet navy wasan't even close to be as big as one of the big 4 navys [RN, USN, IJN and the German], but they ships are stronger. like there is a ton of things they could do to at least show some love for ships from these navys. they don't need to be overpowed, but make they respected. Poor montana for exemple could enjoy those improved angles and a even higher penetracion on his shells... Gk could enjoy that acc that gets better in close distances.
ships there was supose to be especial in some way are not even close to be anymore. Like a Moskva can probably tank way better than a hindeburg. [i would not mind a armor buff on the hindeburg to make him a tanky cruiser again].
I wouldn't even put the German navy in the top 4...
(That goes to Italy)
But your point is well made. I think WG have done some good things, but they don't "respect" ships that have actual service records.
They need to spend an entire patch or three dedicated to changes that make the game better for older ship lines, lower tiers, etc.
@@Viper-dn8ix I only put them there because they had a good number of well know ships and the tech was actually really good on the ships. Bismark's hull for example, hold a ton of shells. I didn't know Italy had that much of ships... I mean, they had to fight RN, so they had a TopDog against them, but I really didnt know it.
My point? Sure to ships with records and medals of service like NC... But even the balance of the game is suffering for this, as well the ships who did exist and have good records under they name.
@@thiagosantiago1704 The reason why is because the valiant ships of the Navys you mentioned actually saw service in the most part, or at least a derivative of each vessel, so they have some realistic ground work to build the ships from. The soviets on the other hand are completely out of the ball park because they were never produced nor anything close to them and they have none of that to ground them in reality either.
@@therealwildboar1007 they didnt have the industries to build the plates of the BBs... Like the armor they have on the game. Or the gun systems or even the guns itself.
My point is more like they did a line of ships there would never exist and made them even better of the ones who actually exist or was close to be build (like FDG and Monty).
Lets not even talk about the cruisers.
@@thiagosantiago1704 I'd also argue that German ships are more well known than their American and British counterparts, so yeah. Worthy inclusion.
I'd actually be willing to bet the most popular trees are Germany and Japan.
Nice video as usual. I have just unlocked the Roon, and built it with IFHE and turret traverse module. So far a fun ship. Nice DPM, nice HE and AP DMG. What comes with IFHE rework we will see. I have heard somewhere that they will buff German BB secondaries and they will be able pen 32 mm without IFHE. That would be nice on (secondary built) GK, so that those 4 points could go to survival.
Hey flamu can you feature the Hindenburg again as ifhe changes are live from my first cruiser on wows should I go for it ?
they really need to have 32 mm armor(on deck and/or upper belt) on these cruisers that are supposed to be tanky
Have you seen that the Goliath has a 25mm side citadel that can be overmatched by basically any BB at its tier.
@@therealwildboar1007 yea but it would be a pretty lucky shot.
@@TwoCraZyEyes0 throw enough shit at the wall and some of it is going to stick...And these days ships have a LOT of shit to throw.
@@TwoCraZyEyes0 Not so rare as you may think, either way the 25mm plates everywhere means it eats full pens from nearly everything that shoots at it. If it had a normal heal it'd be easily the worst tier 10 cruiser. Honestly for something thats meant to tank fire it should at least have 30-35mm plates and not that stupid step citadel.
Q: should take IFHE for my 2ndaries on Bismarck, F.DG, and G.KF?
and should go with complete 2ndary build on all three of them or take the main gun accuracy module?
So are there any lines (Aside from Kremlin...) that you would recommend actually playing in 2020?
Ijn Gun DDs. Most fun I had the last days was definitely kitakaze.
And I guess DDs in general is fun as well as Italian cruiser T8-10. :)
Cacain lines
Had a lot of fun with the Japanese Gunboat DD line. If you don't want to play DD's i would recommend French BB's they have a very unique playstill in my opinon.
@@zongrenli3951 Are there any basic points about Japanese DDs leading up to, and then beginning at the gunboats I should learn?
@@literallyartemis Yes, Japanese DD's before the Gunboat relly on their torpedos to do damage, you will have to play with your detection in mind and try to stealth torp (Don't forget that you have guns though they are quiet good) This stays the same for the Gunboat line until T8 when you get the Akizuki which you then play more light a light Cruiser. Generally building towords gun reload is recommended since you only have 1 Torpedo launcher from Akizuki onwords. Kitakaze is a bit underwhelming for a T9 but it's a decent ship, and finally at T10 the Harugumo is still an absolute Monster when it comes to DPM.
So you should learn to use the Islands as cover when and were to use ur smocke and Reload booster for the Torps that kind of stuff :)
What graphical mod is he using? The water looks both nice and it's easier to see what your shells are doing.
Jack .W Aslain calm waters
I kinda wish flamu would open with "HELL NO, HELL NO" in the same tone of his usual intro on an appropriate video
Fire Chance = FRC · ( 1 - DCM1 ) · ( 1 - FP ) · ( FCB - IFHE + DE + Σ S )
This is the formula to calculate the coefficient reduction each ship has to the fire chance base (FCB) percentage shown in each ships description. The values used in this formula varies for each ship, hull, tier, and shell. WG only ask that you discover this easy to find information on your own and please use a calculator. You could be banned for wasting state mind power.
Welcome to WG comrade commander.
How the the ifhe rework affect the friesland will it still mandatory to use it or will it free up the commander points for sumthing else
I like that the enemy team can just stay around the cap and just win the game, but of course they need to go full potato and push into the other team's spawn.
also forgot the part where every nation with IFHe will have Hinden pen with higher fire chance and alpha damage
When was that announced?
I occasionally use HE in my Yamato, but that's only against Smolensk and angled Kremlins, since AP does squat against them.
But this is hilarious.
Finally Hindenburg can know what it feels like playing the Des Moines
How do even get to tier x and still not be able to understand the different ammo types?
so it's a heavy cruiser with none of the perks of being a heavy cruiser
what's the point of a heavy cruiser if it's armor can be penetrated from any angle
Brit heavies have the same issue I've found.
Soooo, just to be clear. Is still good picking IFHE on Hindemburg after this change? Or maybe it's not worth it anymore?
Hi, can you please share the upgrades and commander skill points?
First buff the ship, the smack it back down.
"smack it" isn't really the good term. Hindi will still be powerful enough without IFHE to pen 50mm armors. Unlike what Flamu is saying, this ship won't see any difference. HOWEVER, one ship will again be nerf to the ground and it is Henri IV.
Hot take, that camping pink Yamato player was a big brain player. His questionable playstyle actually contributed to the win in some way.
- Being all the way back down ended up creating new crossfires against the enemy Yammy pushing south mid game, then ends up flanking both the Republique and Kremlin in the late game
- HE against angled Kremlin, ends up burning him down for the kill whereas AP would have just bounced because russian armor bias. Also stacked double fires on the Repub, even if AP may have been devastating
Haven’t played WoWs in a while, but what’s up with that water reflection, looks like a marble floor? When did they change the water graphics?
It's a mod from Aslain's modpack called Calm Waters
MOD
The calm water in the vid is really nice :o
wow. My brain cant comprehend that one, maybe they were drunk?
Is this still the go to build even with IFHE cutting fire chance by 50% now?
time to move on from this game
I know that the IFHE Rework is a is now in the game for a while but even with IFHE the Light Cruisers cant pen American BB Deck Armor because they only reach up to 37mm of penetration
I'm getting really board with the broad stroke approach WG keep having to try and "fix" things. The issues IFHE caused needed to be looked at on a ship by ship basis.
5:00 that sounds in line with what I’ve seen this weekend
Once a Iowa and Montana division ran away from a winning fight
Then a Yamato hugged me in a carrier which made the game unnecessarily close.
Damn, Flamu, you kept kiting and shooting for 9 minutes until you received your first damage, lol.
How do you have some many upgrades? You have over a 100 for many and have none or 1 or 2. I've never seen more than 8 for anything in six years
Try propulsion and the 40% faster rudder.. It will help at the brawling situations and dd hunting..
I really like the water effects in this vid. What r the settings if I may ask?
glhmedic Aslain calm waters
The Yamato and Republique *had* to be potatoing on purpose. Hitting the spawn border, slinging HE, and speccing Survivability Expert. Rrright.
The best fire starting ship after the conquerer and smolensk IMO would have to be the yoshino, it has great range a good reload like a 30% fire chance with a full build and is very accurate, i average around 15 fires a game and its more common than not if i get an arsonist and witherer
Flamu, thanks for the info. I added those 2 BB players to my blacklist.
Why that water look so clear in every youtuber? Is it like some settings or something? I have funl grapichs settings and i just think it doesnt Look good like in this vid??
Hi, again what mod are you using for water?
Flambass said in his video today that a sign of a good Battleship game is having very little HP and no heals at the end, still being alive, and having done a relevant amount of damage or contributions to the team.
These two battleships from this game were full HP, probably did 20-30k each, and contributed absolutely nothing to the team. But they lived, so obviously it was Flamu's fault for not going to C like they pinged him to do. =P
Need a clip of Jingles saying snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
I got Hindenburg yesterday. Nice to hear the news.
Not sure if you’ll read this since the video is a little old by now, but now that the IFHE rework is upon us i’m hoping that you’ll be showing off your new hindenburg build while the free respecs are still available
lot of things i don't get he spamming bb in tier 10, when i am in a tier 8 and most of the team is in 10's and we get our ass handed to us and i'm in the top 3 how did they get to tier 10? on the na sometimes i think most of them think the game runs 5 minutes and you win if you get sunk first.
LOL the ending of this game just sums up wows in general
Flamu, in fairness most of the BBs in this match were already in the game when Hindenburg was added and overmatched it just fine back then too, holly Yammy spam...
The only bb that could overmatch hindenburg when it was added was yamato
That's how my 85% games look from the begining of 2020y
How I handle weekends should be a lesson to everyone: hit battle button and start trashing your team as they make mistakes. The joys of this out weigh the ultimate chat ban that results.
I got chat banned doing this so many times I cant even count them all - still fun . . .
yeah, people like you is the reason why I turned off the chat
Kazuhira Miller Reported!
@@glhmedic report my ass
I'm so happy a CC with more reputation in this game then I ever will have has pointed out that the change to AA guns mod 1 was a nerf, I've been trying to get the community to notice this but I keep being called stupid and crazy. Thx for pointing that out Flamu :) also gj on almost getting the 100k followers, you deserve it! :)
"Hindenberg is pretty shit at starting fires"..... except when shooting at me!
Battleships look like your average weekend captain
So what do you run after the rework
So in your opinion Zao or Hindy cause I think Hindy still out preforms the zao
you forgott to mention that HE from 180mm guns will be able to pen 30mm (Donskoi and the new comming russian cruisers)
what is that water mod you use?
Hmmmm... On the NA Server I cannot select the IFHE skill for my Hindenburg commander. What am I missing? Not that it matters anymore..LOL.
You have to test the secondariea of tier 8 and 9 German BB and see how these will be gutted by the changes
Can someone let me know how he got past the 75-76 FPS cap
bruh, how can you aim without horizontal crosshair?
i think the most sad ship could be Henry...ifhe Henry use to be a king.....
Its difficult for many players to understand the game bc theres no official guide, many mechanics are hidden, and WG keeps fuking changing things. That's why teams are a sht show.
Ahh rip t10. It was fun for a few years. 5 years into this game and I've seen the standard of play at t10 slowly but surely crumble down into a state of madness. It is like an alternate universe where logic doesn't matter.
to be fair, at least with us bb's, its basically impossible to get anywhere ear the battlefield now, you just have to sit back at like 20km+ range and pray to god the rng gives you a good salvo or two. This is particularly bad with the iowa atm, as it just feels nearly usles in a game. If the Iowa pushes up, it gets insta killed and you got no chanse of turning away or youre gonna get citadeled, if you stay back, you dont really help your team much becasue bb guns are far to unreliable.
Well my entire year of grinding American battleship for the 38mm had going down to drain.
In other news, wargaming is absolutely terrible at balancing their games
This weekend had the WORST players online than I've ever seen before. Unwinable teams over and over, the level of play has regressed along with WG's questionable patch updates.
could that have anything to do with people with a brain seeing where this is going and just stop playing...?
Any time the word Rework and World of Warships are in the same sentence it scares me.
Full HP HP perk Republique really is something...
Doesn't the CV have a fighter circling around him, so not afk.
Mirasolov Klose fighters are auto launched
Wargaming should slap this all over its "Armada" channel, a micro battleship of a cruiser more capable than Odin/Siegfried and more like a rapid-fire Scharnhorst if you ask me
Question - if I uninstall WoWs, do I lose my accumulated ships etc? Or can I re-install at a later date and pick up where I left off if WG manages to unf*ck the game?
FlyngSnoopy Your account stays so long as you remember your login details (email/password). Uninstalling WOWS has no effect on your account, and you can return to it at any time.
FlyngSnoopy You don’t lose anything unless the account gets deleted
Nah, its linked to your WG account, so as long as you have the account, no you won't lose anything
So long as you don't forget your account name and password you'll be fine. The installation on your PC is just the game files, your ships etc are all stored on the server. You could erase your whole PC, or buy a new one, install WoWs fresh and log in and all your ships will be there.
Thanks for the help! Right now the game is just taking up space and I haven't played in a while, so I'll just uninstall. Used to love playing my Fletcher, Z-52, and cruisers. The game seems to be changing so much that I don't want to spend the time or the money anymore 'till things settle, hopefully for the better but we'll see! Going to play more Cold Waters now.
That Republique and Yamato are bots that WG don't know how to recognize them.
IFHE change needs mid tiers and the Hindy/Henri. The real dakka dakka HE spammers Japanese gun boats won't be hit too hard by this change and Smolensk doesn't even need to to take down a BB quickly. Go job we have a new crusier line split coming with super fast, improved angles, hiigh pen AP
where do you get the calm waters mod?
Aslain's modpack
I beg to differ. I play the mobile game with a Minotaur. Battling against the Hindenburg is like facing a Battleship. Even with low health it deals heavy damage to my Cruiser and moves fast as hell. My torps miss nearly every time.