LOOK IF WE AS THE FANS OR A FAN HAVE TO CONVINCE THE CRITICS THAT WE SHOULD NOT SAY THE RAGNARÖK WAS WORST….THAT IS A CLEAR SIGN THAT IT IS NOT UP TO THE MARK LIKE GOW 2018…..LIKE DO YOU REMEMBER ANY PERSON COMPLAINING OR BEING CONFLICTED ABOUT GOW 2018…..ITS ONE THING ONLY…..EITHER THE GAME WINS OUR HEARTS OR NOT……2018 GOW WON OUR HEARTS LIKE THERE’S NOTHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT AND RAGNARÖK SIMPLY FAILED US BY NOT MATCHING THE HIGH EXPECTATIONS THEY BUILD IN 2018 AND WASTED THE ONE OF THE BEST STORY OF MYTHOLOGICAL WARS….NOTHING BUT RAGNARÖK….RAGNARÖK WAS IT MAN….ALL THE GREAT AND MIND BLOWING STUFFS WERE SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN IN THIS TITLE…… Really…..all the questions they raised in previous game are not answered and seems like we are not getting them in this game…..plus things like time travel….blade of olympus…..mjolnir…..nothing seems like happening…..also facts like which should happen in RAGNARÖK seems to be not going to happen for example measurements of mimir by dwarves….that yes…but what for?!?! Anyone would’ve seen it coming that tyr is not tyr but is odin…..I KNEW…..I mean just in first night you showed us tyr was with us in sindri’s house in the first night of the game….poor story writing…..plus fenrir in just one of the first dialogues was shocking and great too but….there are no explanations…..where is it?! Everything seems stupid….what were they thinking? I or any die hard fans would’ve wrote far better story than this…..why the big sequels goes like this…..and yes they did let us down…..thay said norse will be wrapped up so why the crap you would let the answer to that who blew the horn kept away from this game?! And kept it for god knows which future game and when that future game will be available?! Also remember this I hated playing as Loki or Atreus….it was bullshit…..There were more gameplay of that little shit and was disturbing to the kratos’s gameplay like whenever we would feel like we are warmed up with blades of chaos the game led us to stupid bow and arrow…..also where is JORMUNGANDR in the whole game….(I’m currently in the faye’s dream right before war, so of course he’ll be there at RAGNARÖK)…..I’m just too upset and disappointed with the story…..game overall…music and everything is great….it feels good as a PS5 play through in my PS4 slim and looks awesome….feels smooth great reflections….great shadows….great vibrant environment…..but story is not feeling anywhere near to compelling story telling…..KRATOS is like getting a beat up by everyone who shows up….he’s broke….he was crying at some point…..He feels weak to me……and the most disgusting part when there were enemies I had to kill….I just always had this feeling of fear thanks to the crappy balanced difficulty….what balanced I died a lot…..and whoever said in the reviews that the gameplay feels like you are god of war is the worst person to review this game…..the difficulty on balanced does not let the player feel anywhere near to god of war rather It gives me fear watching enemies ahead and I’m always mashing the L1 and X….AND MORE L1s and more Xs……who told you to have such difficulties…..why the only 4 difficulties were not working great for you……Why give an additional stupid show me no mercy difficulty mode…..I hate the person who took that decision to add that extra difficulty and messing so miserably to the balanced difficulty……..I thought you cared about us….us the players….you said you are fan of us the players……but who disappoints to the community of god of war like this….in game worth of RAGNARÖK itself…..every review they gave which was mostly 10/10 and 94 metacritic ot whatever that score is feeling like the most stupid score ever…..so stupid…..and yes ESRB said correctly back then about the FUCKS you used in this game so stupidly…….the whole game felt like just building the alliances and story and elements like giant marbles and the thing from which we can call surtr and the thing from which we can call skoll and hati….all this were just feeling like we are doing nothing in the story but building the story just for RAGNARÖK war….just for the end. NO ONE CAN ARGUE ON THE DISPUTE THAT WHICH GAME WAS BETTER 2018 OR RAGNARÖK…..AS IT IS UNDISPUTED THAT 2018 WAS CRAZY GREAT AND SO FAR BETTER GREAT GAME THAN RAGNARÖK….THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IN THIS TWO GAME IS THAT 2018 WAS ON TOP OF NINE REALMS AND RAGNARÖK IS FAR DOWN BELOW……YOU GUYS REALLY DESTROYED THAT GREAT STORY THAT WAS BUILT IN GOW 2018 LIKE FART IN THE AIR BY BROK. YOU DESERVE EVERY SINGLE WORD YOU MUST BE RECEIVING OR WILL RECEIVE FROM THAT PLAYERS WHO ARE GETTING SO DISAPPOINTED….JUST WHY THE HAPPY ENDING OR NORMAL OR SPEAK PLAIN LIKE KRATOS KIND OF STORY DON’T WORK FOR THE CREATORS….IF I WAS CRISTOPHER JUDGE I WOULD NEVER LET THE STORY GO LIKE THIS….. I. HATE. LOKI. THIS GAME WAS MORE LIKE GOD OF MISCHIEF : RAGNARÖK THAN GOD OF WAR : RAGNARÖK. AND YES I NEVER COULD USE QUICK TURN THANKS TO THE REMAPPING OF IT….WHICH WAS SOMETHING I USED IN PREVIOUS GAME AND WAS FEELING CRAZY GOOD TO QUICKLY QUICK TURN AND BEAT EVERYONE AFTER QUICK TURNING……YOU COULD’VE LET THE QUICK TURN WITH SAME SWITCH AND HOLD DOWN DPAD FOR WIELDING SPEAR. I WAS NEARLY FEELING STUPID PLAYING THIS ONE. They really let us down….everything is great except the STORY! So much to complain when it comes to the story…..IT WAS RAGNARÖK….RAGNARÖK….NOT NORMAL SEQUAL…..TIME TRAVEL….BLADE OF OLYMPUS…..WHO BLEW THE HORN….MJOLNIR…..JORMUNGANDR STORYLINE…..MANY MYSTERIES LIKE THAT THE LIST GOES ON TO SOME POINT…..AT LEAST WHO BLEW THE HORN?! WE REALLY DESERVED TO KNOW THAT…..THEY SAID THEY’LL WRAP UP NORSE SAGA…SO WHY COMING BACK TO ANSWERING WHO BLEW THE HORN? IN SOME OTHER THAN NORSE GAME!!!!!! I’M UPSET AND SO SAD….AND I ACTUALLY FEEL BAD THEY WASTED THE TITLE AND PLACE WHERE MANY GREAT THINGS WERE SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN IN THIS TITLE…..VIZ RAGNARÖK!!!! Telling you no matter they’ll win tomorrow the game of the freakin year award yet undoubtedly wasted the title of RAGNARÖK where every great thing I mentioned earlier was supposed to happen…..Hell even our fight with baldur after JOTUNHIEM gate was destroyed by mistake that whole segment till we get in Hel was even better than the whole RAGNARÖK game….Intensifying and all was much more at higher grounds than our first fight with thor…..think about it baldur took your kid….we jump off a damn mountain…..we fighting him on his dragon…..kid is out…..we fell from the dragon all crazy way possible……we ran through the travel room…..brok interaction…..baldur already locked on asgard and the possibility of us seeing the full might of aesir…..kratos does what he does saying SO BE IT…..all three in the air of Hel and both fighting…..That’s how the great segments were supposed to be written in RAGNARÖK man….when I was enjoying all this moments in 2018 game I thought the SMS is just getting started baby and will see so much more in rag but I was wrong tbh they failed US…..of course exception being our first face to face interaction with aesir king of the gods the performance of Ryan Hurst and the one and only Richard Schiff was up to the mark….even they twos raised the bar…..But story of 2018 was far more compelling than what happened in RAGNARÖK. FOR ME RIGHT NOW HOME OF GOD OF WAR FANDOM IS HANDFUL OF YT CHANNELS TALKING ABOUT THIS FRANCHISE….I FEEL BETRAYED…..HOW SHORT THE RAGNARÖK WAR WAS MAN?! WE DIDN’T GET TO SEE DWARVES ARMY OR HEL ARMY OR JORMUNGANDR FIGHTING THOR CLOSELY……ALL THIS WAS TOO RUSHED IN THE END….ALL THIS THEY DIDN’T PUT IN THE GAME WAS NOTHING BUT THEY ESCAPED FROM SHOWING US ALL THIS GREAT THINGS WHICH WOULD’VE TURNED OUT TO BE GREATLY APPRECIABLE HARD WORK!!! BUT NO….
“Besides, I tried. They came back.” That is an understatement. He throw them into the middle of the ocean. A huge fuck off sized wave knocked him out. He awoke with them beside him, dripping sea water. With a fish skewered on one blade. They caused a tsunami to get back to him.
I think that was actually Poseidon who did that. All on Olympus knew the Blades story and the tie to Kratos. Plus when he wanted to get rid of them he was still in service of the gods. The blades were the only seal they had on him. Thats why when Kratos goes to kill them in 3rd game the blades are no longer appearing.
@@ExtremeMan10 I think that instance of him trying to get rid of the Blades happened after GoW3, between then and when he eventually found his way to Midgarde. So Poseidon was dead by that point.
@@robertnoble7554 Because he still *had* the blades. They were at his home, so technically they were still in his possession the whole time. He's cursed to always have them around. So he can never get rid of them by doing things like throwing them into the ocean or burying them.
Although Kratos has plenty of his own merit to thank for his achievements, luck definitely played some part in his story, especially early on when he lacked that power that he wields later on in the original Saga, or the skill and discipline in the Norse world. Had Ares ignored his pleas, that would have been the end of Krato's story then and there. There are probably other places where the assistance of others or plain dumb luck saved his ass or played a large part in furthering his own goals.
4:01 Atreus: Father... what's the biggest thing you've ever fought? Kratos: Your great grandfather. He tried to eat me like your grandfather so I slits his stomach open and then I stabbed him in the head.
We know why Kratos avoids answering what is the biggest thing he fought, his grandfather Cronos. Wonder if Kratos ever told Atreus about his past family?
He did tell him about Cronos indirectly by confirming he has killed a giant, and that he killed his father Zeus, as for Calliope and his previous wife probably not, I can imagine Atreus trying to convince Kratos to go back to greece and try to get her out of the underworld
Honestly, Kratos would prefer to chop his hands of and eat them before let another kid go through the spartan training. He literally hate the fact he has to go through it and see parents put their child through it as well just to be came soldiers and been throw at the meat grinder by Olympians like Zeus, Poseidon, Hades and Ares.
The toughest Spartan Warrior and General, recognizing that the agoge is... not really good. But Atreus will also hate considering the time a student will study it. 7 years old to 30, and he will still be considered to be a "boy" before 30 which is frowned by the Vikings.
It could also be interpreted as Kratos believing that atreus didn't need such extreme training to become a great warrior. Either way, a very sweet dad moment.
Kratos: My strength does not come from my body, but both are honed by discipline Atreus: What's that mean? Mimir: It means do you even lift little brother?
A man who once thought there was no other worthy path then that of a ruthless warrior, now realizing that there is a deep price to be paid to become that kind of weapon.
Speaking of the four parts of the soul, Kratos has a great body, an incredible mind, and let's face it he's been pretty lucky at times even though he wouldn't admit it. So that means he would most likely be missing direction, since he felt lost before killing the Pantheon, and even more lost afterwards
I wonder if souls work in Greek mythology in a similar way to Norse, if so maybe he lost a part or 2 each time he died? Seems doubtful as person caused tension between Greek & Semitic Speaking Christians early on, but I'm open to it.
@@TeeComedian I don’t think a soul as a term even existed in Greek mythology. Even in death,it was not the person’s soul that was carried to the underworld,but rather the person himself.
Mimir: “There was an issue with Viscera” Viscera: the internal organs in the main cavities of the body, especially those in the abdomen, e.g. the intestines, reproductive organs Aka Either: Kratos Ding Dong kept hitting Mimir when he was put in the front instead of the back. Or : Dead bodies kept getting their guts on Mimir
@@bdasaw kratos can't fly and thor can, baldur has a dragon pet for traveling and kratos paddle his boat or walk, he does workout, we just didn't see it
It would be funny if one time Kratos tried to get rid of the blades of exile/or chaos they came back by hitching a ride with a recently thrown Leviathan
I mean you're not far off. I believe he tried tossing them into the sea from a boat, only for the boat to flip from...a storm? Or just bad waves otherwise? I forget, but either way when he washed up ashore again, so too did the blades right next to him
@@Ghostly_One1 yup he even throw them away and walked for miles until they just appeared again.. i wonder if its a curse or someone is bringing them back to him
*Atreus:* “Father? Did you have any… family in Sparta before Mother and me?” *Kratos:* “I… yes.” *Atreus:* “Oookaaay… were there any… children before me?” *Kratos:* “There was… a daughter…” *Atreus:* “I had a sister?” *Kratos:* “Hm… you had.” *Atreus:* “Y-You know what? Never mind. I’m sorry. I hope she at least found peace in… a better place.” *Kratos:* “I… had hoped so too. But sometimes, even the afterlife can only allow that much peace.”
It's pretty amazing how seamlessly they made the relationship between these two blossom while they remain themselves. Kratos more easily praises Atreus and sees him as a comrade rather than a subordinate, especially at the end. Atreus is more confident and the conversations between them are easy and relaxed, especially compared to the first game. The moments of Kratos gently teasing him are more frequent. It's a sad, dark game at times but with these two, it's so uplifting and hopeful.
@@doomyboi It's such a silly, simple little conversation. You wouldn't hear it in the first game: Atreus wouldn't be that relaxed with his father and his father wouldn't know how to be relaxed back. That conversation is, I think, right up there with the beard conversation ("I think my beard's coming in!" "Is it?" "Yeah, see, on my jawline!" ".......... is it?") as just... some banter between a father and son. Not a young god and an elder god, not a general and his subordinate, not even a Spartan and his son. Just... a dad ribbing his son for being silly and maybe a little bit whiny.
Or that one time he fought a giant walking statue? Or that time he beats up a poor gentleman's face and cause a giant flood because he killed the poor gentleman? Or he cut off someone's leg for those nice air force 1 shoes for running?
I like to think that 90% of these questions are just questions Fans have been asking since all the way back at GoW 1, and they're taking this as a chance to answer them all in-universe.
2:10 this was a whole thing in the GOW comics; he literally tried throwing them in the ocean at one point, and at another point just outright ignoring them....but those blades kept coming back, and/or out right following him... 3:06 i think at this point, atreus realized he cant imagine/picture kratos really teaching him "music", or at worse, hed be extra critical... imagine that movie whiplash but with an actual battle hardened dad
"Even hateful things have their uses. Besides I tried... they came back" In the God of War: A New Beginning (2018) novelization, Kratos cannot get rid of the Blades of Chaos at all. He dumped them into the sea, the waters rejected them, destroyed his boat and lied next to him when he awoke on Midgard's shores. Fallen God shows more of his attempts to get rid of them, it didn't work...
Nah he actually thinks about it and able to differentiate between good or bad But the thing is it do not concern him whether it's good or bad Simply he just dgaf
@@TradingWorl_d i wouldnt say he doesnt gaf...rather he sees alot of grey area, and still makes choices based on himself, and the ppl around him..... Very grounded in that aspect if you notice; He wont get into fights or issues that arent his business...unless they affect the ppl around him...and even then he wont help unless askes... All hell will break loose for the sake of his kids... He doesnt go looking for trouble, but often gets into trouble due to circumstances(in these games anyway) This is a guy who KNOWS right and wrong but chooses to do what he wants...
I like how Atreus sees not the power in the blades, but his father's pain over using them. So often he brings up wanting to be strong, and these are mighty weapons. To recognize the mental burden they represent shows he's learning.
The story of Thrym, The Giant King, who stole Thor's hammer is actually really funny. In the end, Thor had to wear a wedding dress and pretend to be Freya to get his hammer back. I was hoping the game would reference it in one way or another.
The sadness in Kratos voice when asked about the hot gates. For those who don't know, that's the battle of thermoplae, or the 300 Spartans. The Persians are lucky Kratos wasn't there.
@@hansalanson3497 it's a historical battle, but the numbers are fudged. There were only 300 Spartans, but about 3000 other Greeks. They still held the pass outnumbered 30 to 1, until the Persians found the goat path. At that point, when all hope was lost, Leonidas sent the rest away and the 300 stayed behind. They lasted the day, but were all slaughtered. They genuinely could have held the narrow pass for much longer if the Persians didn't discover the way behind them.
That part literally confirmed the fact that G.O.W took place on ±400 B.C, and that there were probably a distinction between the God's "Earth/Midgard", and the actual Earth/Midgard.
@@hersheedenwerf if i remember correctly, was Loki who tricked Baldr's blind brother to shoot him with a mistletoe arrow, and since he wanted to be part of the fun and did not know was mistletoe (cuz... Could not see), he unknowingly was his brother's demise.
@@mamacoloco7285 i was refering to baldr's blind brother killing him unwillingly. :) But thanks for the info, actually thought Loki was adopted. Guess was relying too much on the Marvel version
I really love the little conversations they have,the devs really tried to make this game as alive as possible,I definitely think it's going to win best game of the year 2022
2:07 it may not seem like much, but this right there explains to me why only the blades of chaos came with him to Midgard. Why the blade of Olympus or the golden fleece or anything else stayed.
Upload the boat conversations with Freya to UA-cam. The boat conversations with her are more interesting because she asks about kratos past most of the time so the conversations with her are alot more interesting.
Imagine if he told them on how he killed the Greek gods, taking Hades soul,Poking Poseidon's eyes and snapping his neck, forcefully Ripping off Helio's head and make into a lamp, cutting Hermes legs
You know with how dejected Atreus sounded in the harp dialogue, you know Kratos is gonna have someone build him the best harp and have the best teach it to him.
i like Mimir saying you gotta lift even as a god which implies that Zeus, who was somehow even buffer than Kratos was a giga lifter. Zeus with a toga labeled "Gains" and his chalice boy brings him protein shakes instead of wine
It’s had its ups and downs I mean he killed his own wife and daughter and his brother was stolen from him and died within minutes of finding him again…. But hey at least he smashed Aphrodite
Depends on how you look at luck, like Nathan Drake has the awful luck of hanging from a wrecked train over a cliff but the amazing luck of being able to climb out of it without falling to his death. The circumstances are unlucky but the opportunities for success sorta fall into their laps lol
For those who don’t know, in the God Of War Book. Kratos, on a boat towards the Norse, threw his Blades at the sea. The sea then responded by toppling a wave on him, destroying his boat. He then awoken on the beaches of Midgard with his blades next to him.
Termophilae is canon? Another guess from what era Kratos could be. He couldn't be in the Hot Gates for the second war against Persia (but he battled persians, maybe for the first), but he is also a paralel with Archimedes of Syracuse. This things are supposed to happen when he was still ignorant of his godhood.
@@gamechanger8908 Maybe he was alredy the God of War when Termophylae happened. As the same the rest of the Spartan Army couldn't go to war for a religius festivity that prohibited its movilization, Kratos couldn't get down and intervine (like he did in Rhodes) because the other gods also where prohibited to fight for or against mortals who were celebrating their honours... Another reason why Kratos would grew tired of the way the gods of Olympus resolve their matters.
There's something funny about Kratos partaking in small talk, even if they're just one word sentences. "Father. Will I ever grow a beard like yours?" "No."
I honestly felt that it was a wasted opportunity to have the button mashing of O to open a chest. Kratos now can do it easily, but Atreus? It could make sense and be fanservice
I find it interesting that Kratos going through Spartan training and opting against putting his son through the same very much ressembles the refining of current military training. It may not be perfect, but hardship without brutality makes for far better adjusted warriors in the long term, and is a worthy goal.
Damn it, just when I though the dialogues ON LAND we're good (at least the scripted ones) these boat stories (I know they're not boat exclusive) are just...awesome.
@@zed6740 yes, he went to a small village where everywhere was scared shirtless of him because what he did to Greece had spread to other parts of the world. He had to fight a giant hippo monster, got his ass kicked a bit by it until Athena and Hoth appeared before him and told him he had to embrace his destiny to which be got pisssed grabbed rhe blades of chaos, which he had tried to through into the ocean but whenever he slept they returned, and killed the hippo and then he left ans traveled north
Man the stuff that happens when your traveling is so entertaining especially mimirs story’s it’s great and the dialogue it’s why I love this game something to keep you entertained while traveling
"Did you think i couldn't handle it?" "I do not think you should have had to." That's how my dad is with teaching me. We need to learn yes and it may be hard, but it shouldn't be torture to learn like our parents may have. He had a very rough life till he married and it made him really try and give us joy as much as lessons. Love my dad.
2:00 what an awsome refrence to the ending of God of war 3 he tosses his blades away during the final encounter with zeus and starts to beat him up with his fists.
Atreus: Father, when will I look like you? Kratos: (oh fuck he's gonna ask) Kratos: in what way? Atreus: Like, BIGGER. When will I get muscles like yours? Kratos: (phew)
Odin is a planner and uses magic and deception to fight when he has too but he mainly uses Thor for the fighting and killing part Zeus can throw hands, powerful lighting attacks, and can leave his body is a weird ass ghost form. Plus he stood toe to toe with prime rage Kratos Odin would get wiped unless he had a plan, time, and Thor with him
I personally think Zeus would win against Odin. Because, Kratos needed the power of hope against Zeus but not against Odin. And for your second question, I believe Oylmpus would win with a lot of gods in their disposal and Asgard only having a few. Plus, gods in olympus represent an aspect, for example, helios being the Sun, Poseidon being the sea, Hades of death etc. And we can see that each of them had a particular and important roles as gods and had more to do than gods in Asgard. And lastly, I believe gods in olympus are more battle-oriented as they have been in a lot of wars with the titans.
olympus has nearly the entire greek pantheon of gods at its disposal asgard is extremely small in comparison,also the goddess nike is literally the concept of victory, then theres the fact the greeks have 60 million different gods of war (exaggeration of course) zeus is actually incredibly intelligent he outwitted the goddess of wisdom and wits, tricking her into letting him eat her, theres also the fact that helios and hermes alone would most likely stomp the entire pantheon alone, most of the asgardians wouldnt be able to react to helio's light, and not a single one would be able to catch hermes.
So wait, this game takes place after the battle of Thermopylae in 480 bce. So how long has Kratos been away from Greece? What era is this game even in?
According to Cory barlog the new gow games takes place in the era prior to the viking exploration age, which sets the game around 500 to 600 ad if I'm correct, so Kratos is likely almost 1200 years old. I now want atreus to call him a boomer. I know it's not periodically accurate, but still.
@@gamechanger8908 the Trojan war was around 1200 to 1300 bc, the exact date is debated, and ragnarok is sometime are 500 to 600 ad, so that means Kratos is almost 2000 years old.
Y’know, I kinda find it interesting how Atreus asked Kratos what monsters he’s fought & who was the biggest he conquered. Remind me: Not counting Hephaestus, Clotho, the Colossus of Rhodes, the Hand of Hecatonchire & maybe Cronos, didn’t Kratos take down a whole-ass giant kraken in GoW: Ascension?
"Besides, I tried. They came back." The blades may not come when Kratos calls, but they really do just... follow him around, basically. Always end up back with him even if he tries to get rid of them, so the best he can do is just hang them up or hide them.
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LOOK IF WE AS THE FANS OR A FAN HAVE TO CONVINCE THE CRITICS THAT WE SHOULD NOT SAY THE RAGNARÖK WAS WORST….THAT IS A CLEAR SIGN THAT IT IS NOT UP TO THE MARK LIKE GOW 2018…..LIKE DO YOU REMEMBER ANY PERSON COMPLAINING OR BEING CONFLICTED ABOUT GOW 2018…..ITS ONE THING ONLY…..EITHER THE GAME WINS OUR HEARTS OR NOT……2018 GOW WON OUR HEARTS LIKE THERE’S NOTHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT AND RAGNARÖK SIMPLY FAILED US BY NOT MATCHING THE HIGH EXPECTATIONS THEY BUILD IN 2018 AND WASTED THE ONE OF THE BEST STORY OF MYTHOLOGICAL WARS….NOTHING BUT RAGNARÖK….RAGNARÖK WAS IT MAN….ALL THE GREAT AND MIND BLOWING STUFFS WERE SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN IN THIS TITLE……
Really…..all the questions they raised in previous game are not answered and seems like we are not getting them in this game…..plus things like time travel….blade of olympus…..mjolnir…..nothing seems like happening…..also facts like which should happen in RAGNARÖK seems to be not going to happen for example measurements of mimir by dwarves….that yes…but what for?!?! Anyone would’ve seen it coming that tyr is not tyr but is odin…..I KNEW…..I mean just in first night you showed us tyr was with us in sindri’s house in the first night of the game….poor story writing…..plus fenrir in just one of the first dialogues was shocking and great too but….there are no explanations…..where is it?! Everything seems stupid….what were they thinking? I or any die hard fans would’ve wrote far better story than this…..why the big sequels goes like this…..and yes they did let us down…..thay said norse will be wrapped up so why the crap you would let the answer to that who blew the horn kept away from this game?! And kept it for god knows which future game and when that future game will be available?! Also remember this I hated playing as Loki or Atreus….it was bullshit…..There were more gameplay of that little shit and was disturbing to the kratos’s gameplay like whenever we would feel like we are warmed up with blades of chaos the game led us to stupid bow and arrow…..also where is JORMUNGANDR in the whole game….(I’m currently in the faye’s dream right before war, so of course he’ll be there at RAGNARÖK)…..I’m just too upset and disappointed with the story…..game overall…music and everything is great….it feels good as a PS5 play through in my PS4 slim and looks awesome….feels smooth great reflections….great shadows….great vibrant environment…..but story is not feeling anywhere near to compelling story telling…..KRATOS is like getting a beat up by everyone who shows up….he’s broke….he was crying at some point…..He feels weak to me……and the most disgusting part when there were enemies I had to kill….I just always had this feeling of fear thanks to the crappy balanced difficulty….what balanced I died a lot…..and whoever said in the reviews that the gameplay feels like you are god of war is the worst person to review this game…..the difficulty on balanced does not let the player feel anywhere near to god of war rather It gives me fear watching enemies ahead and I’m always mashing the L1 and X….AND MORE L1s and more Xs……who told you to have such difficulties…..why the only 4 difficulties were not working great for you……Why give an additional stupid show me no mercy difficulty mode…..I hate the person who took that decision to add that extra difficulty and messing so miserably to the balanced difficulty……..I thought you cared about us….us the players….you said you are fan of us the players……but who disappoints to the community of god of war like this….in game worth of RAGNARÖK itself…..every review they gave which was mostly 10/10 and 94 metacritic ot whatever that score is feeling like the most stupid score ever…..so stupid…..and yes ESRB said correctly back then about the FUCKS you used in this game so stupidly…….the whole game felt like just building the alliances and story and elements like giant marbles and the thing from which we can call surtr and the thing from which we can call skoll and hati….all this were just feeling like we are doing nothing in the story but building the story just for RAGNARÖK war….just for the end. NO ONE CAN ARGUE ON THE DISPUTE THAT WHICH GAME WAS BETTER 2018 OR RAGNARÖK…..AS IT IS UNDISPUTED THAT 2018 WAS CRAZY GREAT AND SO FAR BETTER GREAT GAME THAN RAGNARÖK….THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IN THIS TWO GAME IS THAT 2018 WAS ON TOP OF NINE REALMS AND RAGNARÖK IS FAR DOWN BELOW……YOU GUYS REALLY DESTROYED THAT GREAT STORY THAT WAS BUILT IN GOW 2018 LIKE FART IN THE AIR BY BROK. YOU DESERVE EVERY SINGLE WORD YOU MUST BE RECEIVING OR WILL RECEIVE FROM THAT PLAYERS WHO ARE GETTING SO DISAPPOINTED….JUST WHY THE HAPPY ENDING OR NORMAL OR SPEAK PLAIN LIKE KRATOS KIND OF STORY DON’T WORK FOR THE CREATORS….IF I WAS CRISTOPHER JUDGE I WOULD NEVER LET THE STORY GO LIKE THIS…..
I. HATE. LOKI. THIS GAME WAS MORE LIKE GOD OF MISCHIEF : RAGNARÖK THAN GOD OF WAR : RAGNARÖK. AND YES I NEVER COULD USE QUICK TURN THANKS TO THE REMAPPING OF IT….WHICH WAS SOMETHING I USED IN PREVIOUS GAME AND WAS FEELING CRAZY GOOD TO QUICKLY QUICK TURN AND BEAT EVERYONE AFTER QUICK TURNING……YOU COULD’VE LET THE QUICK TURN WITH SAME SWITCH AND HOLD DOWN DPAD FOR WIELDING SPEAR. I WAS NEARLY FEELING STUPID PLAYING THIS ONE.
They really let us down….everything is great except the STORY! So much to complain when it comes to the story…..IT WAS RAGNARÖK….RAGNARÖK….NOT NORMAL SEQUAL…..TIME TRAVEL….BLADE OF OLYMPUS…..WHO BLEW THE HORN….MJOLNIR…..JORMUNGANDR STORYLINE…..MANY MYSTERIES LIKE THAT THE LIST GOES ON TO SOME POINT…..AT LEAST WHO BLEW THE HORN?! WE REALLY DESERVED TO KNOW THAT…..THEY SAID THEY’LL WRAP UP NORSE SAGA…SO WHY COMING BACK TO ANSWERING WHO BLEW THE HORN? IN SOME OTHER THAN NORSE GAME!!!!!!
I’M UPSET AND SO SAD….AND I ACTUALLY FEEL BAD THEY WASTED THE TITLE AND PLACE WHERE MANY GREAT THINGS WERE SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN IN THIS TITLE…..VIZ RAGNARÖK!!!!
Telling you no matter they’ll win tomorrow the game of the freakin year award yet undoubtedly wasted the title of RAGNARÖK where every great thing I mentioned earlier was supposed to happen…..Hell even our fight with baldur after JOTUNHIEM gate was destroyed by mistake that whole segment till we get in Hel was even better than the whole RAGNARÖK game….Intensifying and all was much more at higher grounds than our first fight with thor…..think about it baldur took your kid….we jump off a damn mountain…..we fighting him on his dragon…..kid is out…..we fell from the dragon all crazy way possible……we ran through the travel room…..brok interaction…..baldur already locked on asgard and the possibility of us seeing the full might of aesir…..kratos does what he does saying SO BE IT…..all three in the air of Hel and both fighting…..That’s how the great segments were supposed to be written in RAGNARÖK man….when I was enjoying all this moments in 2018 game I thought the SMS is just getting started baby and will see so much more in rag but I was wrong tbh they failed US…..of course exception being our first face to face interaction with aesir king of the gods the performance of Ryan Hurst and the one and only Richard Schiff was up to the mark….even they twos raised the bar…..But story of 2018 was far more compelling than what happened in RAGNARÖK.
FOR ME RIGHT NOW HOME OF GOD OF WAR FANDOM IS HANDFUL OF YT CHANNELS TALKING ABOUT THIS FRANCHISE….I FEEL BETRAYED…..HOW SHORT THE RAGNARÖK WAR WAS MAN?! WE DIDN’T GET TO SEE DWARVES ARMY OR HEL ARMY OR JORMUNGANDR FIGHTING THOR CLOSELY……ALL THIS WAS TOO RUSHED IN THE END….ALL THIS THEY DIDN’T PUT IN THE GAME WAS NOTHING BUT THEY ESCAPED FROM SHOWING US ALL THIS GREAT THINGS WHICH WOULD’VE TURNED OUT TO BE GREATLY APPRECIABLE HARD WORK!!! BUT NO….
I really love how Kratos is more open with his son in this game then the last one.
I see the god of sentience admiring boat stories of a former god of war with his son
Thats the point of this game. Opening up and not letting fear consume you.
Also Atreus is like what 14-16 here? This is the time where fathers have to teach everything they know to their son especially those times.
than*
Less gaming, more reading.
@@CorrectionUnknown 🤓
It's cute Atreus asked Kratos if they could make a lyre (instrument) together. I bet that reminded him of Calliope.
Was that game chains of olympus or ghost of sparta?
@@MagicalLiopleurodon20 Chains of Olympus
No wonder that made me feel something. I wasn't sure if this is the case when I heard it.
Didn't she had a Flute?
@@2face88 yep, one Kratos carved by hand, so the idea of making an instrument for another child is likely making him feel things.
“Besides, I tried. They came back.”
That is an understatement. He throw them into the middle of the ocean. A huge fuck off sized wave knocked him out. He awoke with them beside him, dripping sea water. With a fish skewered on one blade. They caused a tsunami to get back to him.
I think that was actually Poseidon who did that. All on Olympus knew the Blades story and the tie to Kratos. Plus when he wanted to get rid of them he was still in service of the gods. The blades were the only seal they had on him.
Thats why when Kratos goes to kill them in 3rd game the blades are no longer appearing.
@@ExtremeMan10 I think that instance of him trying to get rid of the Blades happened after GoW3, between then and when he eventually found his way to Midgarde. So Poseidon was dead by that point.
@@ExtremeMan10 this was after gow3, also the blades got upgraded, not discarded
If the blades come back why did kratos needs to go and fetch them in GOW4?
@@robertnoble7554 Because he still *had* the blades. They were at his home, so technically they were still in his possession the whole time. He's cursed to always have them around. So he can never get rid of them by doing things like throwing them into the ocean or burying them.
Kratos saying "is it" sarcastically twice is the funniest thing I've seen.
Is it?
Is it?
Is it?
Is it?
Is it?
Mimir: Your dad's crazy lucky.
Kratos: No I'm not, I'm just really good.
Mimir: That's just what an crazy lucky person would say.
Although Kratos has plenty of his own merit to thank for his achievements, luck definitely played some part in his story, especially early on when he lacked that power that he wields later on in the original Saga, or the skill and discipline in the Norse world. Had Ares ignored his pleas, that would have been the end of Krato's story then and there. There are probably other places where the assistance of others or plain dumb luck saved his ass or played a large part in furthering his own goals.
“I think my beard’s coming in”
“Is it?”
“Thats not just dirt?”
Man the three of them are just a bunch of guys lmao
You can hear the w amusement in his voice, you can see the shit eating smirk under his beard, oh it’s magnificent!
I mean they literally are just a bunch of guys.
Atreus: "Should I grow y hair out?"
Mimir: "You're asking _US?!_ "
@@asurasyn honestly I just imagined the sun conviniently shining down on there heads
@@russelllim4891 okay, that got me laughing.
Atreus really ask about hair to 2 bald men 😂
I thought it was facial hair advice
@@novaenforcer1563 letting hair grow out refers to the hair on the head
@@youraveragepasser-by7367 Marvel Loki reference?
@@cactusmann5542 no.
@@cactusmann5542 More like Norse Mythology reference. Loki is often depicted with long hair.
4:01
Atreus: Father... what's the biggest thing you've ever fought?
Kratos: Your great grandfather. He tried to eat me like your grandfather so I slits his stomach open and then I stabbed him in the head.
Atreus: That sounds...not alright at all. Why he ate your father?
Also Atreus' great grandmother whose hand he cut off and then stabbed in the heart
@@saimcheeda93 while also impaling his grandfather into her heart, all in one stab
There's Atlas,Cronos,Gaia
@@saimcheeda93 great great grandmother, she was cronos's mother
We know why Kratos avoids answering what is the biggest thing he fought, his grandfather Cronos. Wonder if Kratos ever told Atreus about his past family?
He would never probably
He did tell him about Cronos indirectly by confirming he has killed a giant, and that he killed his father Zeus, as for Calliope and his previous wife probably not, I can imagine Atreus trying to convince Kratos to go back to greece and try to get her out of the underworld
Who was bigger? Atlas or Cronos?
@@karolmanzano539 probably relative
@@karolmanzano539 atlas
"Did you not think I could have handled [Spartan training]?"
"I did not think you should have had to"
That's so fucking sweet lmao
Honestly, Kratos would prefer to chop his hands of and eat them before let another kid go through the spartan training. He literally hate the fact he has to go through it and see parents put their child through it as well just to be came soldiers and been throw at the meat grinder by Olympians like Zeus, Poseidon, Hades and Ares.
The toughest Spartan Warrior and General, recognizing that the agoge is... not really good.
But Atreus will also hate considering the time a student will study it. 7 years old to 30, and he will still be considered to be a "boy" before 30 which is frowned by the Vikings.
It could also be interpreted as Kratos believing that atreus didn't need such extreme training to become a great warrior. Either way, a very sweet dad moment.
@@SenseiRaisen the way he described training to Freya, I can't blame him.
Cory did say Kratos is against spanking children as discipline.
Atreus: "Father. Will I ever grow a beard like yours?"
Kratos: "No."
Edit: b a s e d
Sad atreus noise
Kratos's beard is an exclusive.
Well that was good conversation
*GTA V Death Sound*
Part greek, part hyperborean... He would grow a beard eventually.
Kratos: My strength does not come from my body, but both are honed by discipline
Atreus: What's that mean?
Mimir: It means do you even lift little brother?
It means:
"WE GO GYM, NOW!!"
It's mean you have come to the gym, Atreus
I love his response on why he didn't want his son trained like a spartan
A man who once thought there was no other worthy path then that of a ruthless warrior, now realizing that there is a deep price to be paid to become that kind of weapon.
Even to Kratos, their is somethings that are defenitly too much.
Atreus: "Father what was the biggest thing you ever fought?"
* remembers slaughtering his own grandfather *
Kratos: *I DO NOT KNOW.*
Don't forget about Gaia.
@@Gumbier_Than and cutting a bow out of Typhon's eye
@@Outlaw7263 And surviving Atlas twice.
He could not mention living relatives and just say *the statue* (GOW 2)
In Kratos defense there were many big things he slaughtered like an entire pantheon
not even Godhood allows you to skip Leg-day!!!
He never skipped leg day but arm day
Khorne and Khaine from W40K, both Gods of war never skip leg day and make sure to keep eachother well aware.
Atreus : Father will I ever have a beard like yours?
Kratos : No.
Amazing writing, 10/10
Funny because in the most famous historic picture of Loki we got, he has a beard like Kratos.
"I think my beard is growing"
"Is it?"
"Yeah. See, on my jawline"
"..."
*"IS IT?"*
i loved that
Making fun of your kid when they talk about facial hair is peak dad behavior
"Is It?" with words alone, a true Spartan demolishes the soul.
Speaking of the four parts of the soul, Kratos has a great body, an incredible mind, and let's face it he's been pretty lucky at times even though he wouldn't admit it. So that means he would most likely be missing direction, since he felt lost before killing the Pantheon, and even more lost afterwards
I wonder if souls work in Greek mythology in a similar way to Norse, if so maybe he lost a part or 2 each time he died?
Seems doubtful as person caused tension between Greek & Semitic Speaking Christians early on, but I'm open to it.
isnt direction the part of the soul the mermaids talk to???? kratos was able to but not brok
@@TeeComedian I don’t think a soul as a term even existed in Greek mythology. Even in death,it was not the person’s soul that was carried to the underworld,but rather the person himself.
@@Stcddot hmm, interesting what were their thoughts on corpses then?
@@TeeComedian idk tbh.When it came to tombs and funerals they’d go all out tho. Especially for kings/leaders.
Mimir: “There was an issue with Viscera”
Viscera: the internal organs in the main cavities of the body, especially those in the abdomen, e.g. the intestines, reproductive organs
Aka
Either: Kratos Ding Dong kept hitting Mimir when he was put in the front instead of the back.
Or : Dead bodies kept getting their guts on Mimir
Very informative, glad to know
"I thought I would get used to it"
"He did not"
But wasn't "viscera" referring to all the blood and guts that would spill out from Kratos enemies? Thus spraying Mimir with said blood and guts
@@BeastnBrushes good point I edited my post to add that
It'd be funnier if it was the first guess 😂
Atreus: When will I look like you, father?
Kratos and Mimir: When you hit the gym, champ.
Atreus: Uhg… Nevermind…
Coming from the GigaGod of War himself
Does kratos even workout lol
@@bdasaw kratos can't fly and thor can, baldur has a dragon pet for traveling and kratos paddle his boat or walk, he does workout, we just didn't see it
@@ArmoredSilverDevil He probably bench presses mountains cause nothing else would work him out
@@bdasaw I think a normal weight one should do, he seems to grow like a normal human
It would be funny if one time Kratos tried to get rid of the blades of exile/or chaos they came back by hitching a ride with a recently thrown Leviathan
Have ya ever tried making
Animatics?
I mean you're not far off. I believe he tried tossing them into the sea from a boat, only for the boat to flip from...a storm? Or just bad waves otherwise? I forget, but either way when he washed up ashore again, so too did the blades right next to him
@@Ghostly_One1 yup he even throw them away and walked for miles until they just appeared again.. i wonder if its a curse or someone is bringing them back to him
@@CyberSubZero0 it is curse
@@CyberSubZero0 Well Athena is still kicking and probably the one that able to do it.
*Atreus:* “Father? Did you have any… family in Sparta before Mother and me?”
*Kratos:* “I… yes.”
*Atreus:* “Oookaaay… were there any… children before me?”
*Kratos:* “There was… a daughter…”
*Atreus:* “I had a sister?”
*Kratos:* “Hm… you had.”
*Atreus:* “Y-You know what? Never mind. I’m sorry. I hope she at least found peace in… a better place.”
*Kratos:* “I… had hoped so too. But sometimes, even the afterlife can only allow that much peace.”
I saw that conversation with Freya, wouldn't surprise me if Atreus gets one too.
@@TeeComedian Elisium Gardens. Calliope still waits for her father to come back.
@@ghostknight2011 its destroyed now lol
You monster, why do you make me cry 😭💔?
You know in theory Deimos calliope and kratos wife could be alive since the underworld was affectively destroyed
It's pretty amazing how seamlessly they made the relationship between these two blossom while they remain themselves. Kratos more easily praises Atreus and sees him as a comrade rather than a subordinate, especially at the end. Atreus is more confident and the conversations between them are easy and relaxed, especially compared to the first game. The moments of Kratos gently teasing him are more frequent. It's a sad, dark game at times but with these two, it's so uplifting and hopeful.
For some reason I don't really get, I love the conversation about Atreus' socks.
@@doomyboi It's such a silly, simple little conversation. You wouldn't hear it in the first game: Atreus wouldn't be that relaxed with his father and his father wouldn't know how to be relaxed back. That conversation is, I think, right up there with the beard conversation ("I think my beard's coming in!" "Is it?" "Yeah, see, on my jawline!" ".......... is it?") as just... some banter between a father and son. Not a young god and an elder god, not a general and his subordinate, not even a Spartan and his son. Just... a dad ribbing his son for being silly and maybe a little bit whiny.
Kratos: it is not a competition.
Atreus: I mean...not yet.
Kratos: don't make me drown you.
Imagine if Kratos told a story about him ripping Helio's head and made it into a lamp
@@adrianuribe1057 Or how he once murdered a woman in cold blood so she could wedge open a door.
Or that one time he fought a giant walking statue? Or that time he beats up a poor gentleman's face and cause a giant flood because he killed the poor gentleman? Or he cut off someone's leg for those nice air force 1 shoes for running?
@@adrianuribe1057 Aphrodite wasn't dead though, he only killed those who are in his way,
I like to think that 90% of these questions are just questions Fans have been asking since all the way back at GoW 1, and they're taking this as a chance to answer them all in-universe.
2:10 this was a whole thing in the GOW comics; he literally tried throwing them in the ocean at one point, and at another point just outright ignoring them....but those blades kept coming back, and/or out right following him...
3:06 i think at this point, atreus realized he cant imagine/picture kratos really teaching him "music", or at worse, hed be extra critical... imagine that movie whiplash but with an actual battle hardened dad
-“What if I let my hair grow up”
-“you want advice from that, from us?” 💀💀💀💀
"Even hateful things have their uses. Besides I tried... they came back"
In the God of War: A New Beginning (2018) novelization, Kratos cannot get rid of the Blades of Chaos at all. He dumped them into the sea, the waters rejected them, destroyed his boat and lied next to him when he awoke on Midgard's shores. Fallen God shows more of his attempts to get rid of them, it didn't work...
It’s actually very impactful that Kratos never thinks about if he is doing the right thing or not
He knows he didnt i think
Nah he actually thinks about it and able to differentiate between good or bad
But the thing is it do not concern him whether it's good or bad
Simply he just dgaf
@@TradingWorl_d i wouldnt say he doesnt gaf...rather he sees alot of grey area, and still makes choices based on himself, and the ppl around him.....
Very grounded in that aspect if you notice;
He wont get into fights or issues that arent his business...unless they affect the ppl around him...and even then he wont help unless askes...
All hell will break loose for the sake of his kids...
He doesnt go looking for trouble, but often gets into trouble due to circumstances(in these games anyway)
This is a guy who KNOWS right and wrong but chooses to do what he wants...
I like how Atreus sees not the power in the blades, but his father's pain over using them. So often he brings up wanting to be strong, and these are mighty weapons. To recognize the mental burden they represent shows he's learning.
The story of Thrym, The Giant King, who stole Thor's hammer is actually really funny. In the end, Thor had to wear a wedding dress and pretend to be Freya to get his hammer back. I was hoping the game would reference it in one way or another.
Knowing what Thor looks like in this game makes that situation 100x funnier.
They did in the first game, but the story is more of a grim story than it is funny
I think Christopher Judge was the perfect voice actor for Kratos
He is definitely amazing. Incredible performance in this game and the last
For an older kratos my headcannon is that he sounds like this is because his voice is worn out by all that yelling from the previous games
@@bluebean5438 That’s my headcannon too🤣
Indeed
The sadness in Kratos voice when asked about the hot gates. For those who don't know, that's the battle of thermoplae, or the 300 Spartans.
The Persians are lucky Kratos wasn't there.
Is it the one where Leonidas prevented Persians from invading?
Honestly, the pressence of Kratos in that battle would make the "300 against thousands" part way more believable.
@@hansalanson3497 it's a historical battle, but the numbers are fudged. There were only 300 Spartans, but about 3000 other Greeks. They still held the pass outnumbered 30 to 1, until the Persians found the goat path. At that point, when all hope was lost, Leonidas sent the rest away and the 300 stayed behind. They lasted the day, but were all slaughtered. They genuinely could have held the narrow pass for much longer if the Persians didn't discover the way behind them.
Indeed
That part literally confirmed the fact that G.O.W took place on ±400 B.C, and that there were probably a distinction between the God's "Earth/Midgard", and the actual Earth/Midgard.
I imagine in Sparta if you took a nap, they'd beat you for being lazy. Also, that arrow thing is how Baldur died in Norse mythology.
Except, that was a mistletoe arrow
@@hersheedenwerf true but it was still in one of those competitions that he was killed.
@@hersheedenwerf if i remember correctly, was Loki who tricked Baldr's blind brother to shoot him with a mistletoe arrow, and since he wanted to be part of the fun and did not know was mistletoe (cuz... Could not see), he unknowingly was his brother's demise.
@@fabiocosta3830 nephew*. In mythology, Loki is Odin's blood-brother rather than adopted son, and as such Baldr is his nephew.
@@mamacoloco7285 i was refering to baldr's blind brother killing him unwillingly. :) But thanks for the info, actually thought Loki was adopted. Guess was relying too much on the Marvel version
These conversations between father and son are warming my heart every time))
Great game, great characters, great atmosphere))
Just love it, very))
I really love the little conversations they have,the devs really tried to make this game as alive as possible,I definitely think it's going to win best game of the year 2022
Kratos: “ you don’t have the discipline to have my beard”
2:07 it may not seem like much, but this right there explains to me why only the blades of chaos came with him to Midgard. Why the blade of Olympus or the golden fleece or anything else stayed.
Blade of Olympus kinda shattered at the end if I remember right.
The other shit he just left behind, probably.
Blade of olympus is still in one piece. Eberything else gotten destroyed during the zeus boss fight in GOW3
@Ezio Auditore but the blade isn't tied to him like the blades are.
@@Rednova08 yeah I know. The only.person who may know where the blade is has to be Athena
Upload the boat conversations with Freya to UA-cam. The boat conversations with her are more interesting because she asks about kratos past most of the time so the conversations with her are alot more interesting.
Please
it is diffrent
Imagine if he told them on how he killed the Greek gods, taking Hades soul,Poking Poseidon's eyes and snapping his neck, forcefully Ripping off Helio's head and make into a lamp, cutting Hermes legs
I agree
You know with how dejected Atreus sounded in the harp dialogue, you know Kratos is gonna have someone build him the best harp and have the best teach it to him.
3:13 damn Kratos know about Leonidas, the battle at Thermopile is canon in GOW
i like Mimir saying you gotta lift even as a god which implies that Zeus, who was somehow even buffer than Kratos was a giga lifter. Zeus with a toga labeled "Gains" and his chalice boy brings him protein shakes instead of wine
“Ah the refrain of the eternally lucky”, wouldn’t call Kratos’ life lucky
well, depends on what you consider luck. Almost every time Kratos breaks pottery, he finds money, that's definitely lucky
It’s had its ups and downs I mean he killed his own wife and daughter and his brother was stolen from him and died within minutes of finding him again…. But hey at least he smashed Aphrodite
Depends on how you look at luck, like Nathan Drake has the awful luck of hanging from a wrecked train over a cliff but the amazing luck of being able to climb out of it without falling to his death. The circumstances are unlucky but the opportunities for success sorta fall into their laps lol
For those who don’t know, in the God Of War Book. Kratos, on a boat towards the Norse, threw his Blades at the sea. The sea then responded by toppling a wave on him, destroying his boat. He then awoken on the beaches of Midgard with his blades next to him.
It's so cool hearing that the battle at Thermopylae is cannon with GOW as well.
the way atreus asked both kratos and mimir about keeping his hair to grow is just hilarious
Termophilae is canon? Another guess from what era Kratos could be. He couldn't be in the Hot Gates for the second war against Persia (but he battled persians, maybe for the first), but he is also a paralel with Archimedes of Syracuse. This things are supposed to happen when he was still ignorant of his godhood.
He’s referenced it but I believe it’s confirmed he was born a decent amount of time after
He mentioned being in the Trojan War, with Freya and Mimir.
@@gamechanger8908 Maybe he was alredy the God of War when Termophylae happened. As the same the rest of the Spartan Army couldn't go to war for a religius festivity that prohibited its movilization, Kratos couldn't get down and intervine (like he did in Rhodes) because the other gods also where prohibited to fight for or against mortals who were celebrating their honours... Another reason why Kratos would grew tired of the way the gods of Olympus resolve their matters.
Kratos absolutely knows the biggest thing he fought.
There's something funny about Kratos partaking in small talk, even if they're just one word sentences. "Father. Will I ever grow a beard like yours?" "No."
I love how kratos speaks with mimir as they were in a more frindly term like collagues or true friends
Kratos sounded so proud of Atreus possibly growing a beard
When i heard this in the game, i took it as Kratos teasing him/being sarcastic. Either way it is a pretty cute interaction between them
@@anonymousperson8211 yeah it was definitely sarcastic after his hard NO lmfao
Atreus keeps forgetting arm day to the point he can't show off to angraboda when cracking a chest.
I honestly felt that it was a wasted opportunity to have the button mashing of O to open a chest. Kratos now can do it easily, but Atreus? It could make sense and be fanservice
"Should I grow my hair out?" the lad asked two bald men
1:20
Atreus: They're (his socks) wet.
Kratos: They will dry
Me: And that, ladies and gentlemen is Kratos making a dad joke
That one with the Lyre. Probably Kratos is reminded of Calliope, since he made her a flute.
"Father. What's the biggest thing you have fought?"
"Your great Grandfather."
The giant statue,Hydra,Armor Minotaur,Scylla,Charybdis Between others UwU
I find it interesting that Kratos going through Spartan training and opting against putting his son through the same very much ressembles the refining of current military training. It may not be perfect, but hardship without brutality makes for far better adjusted warriors in the long term, and is a worthy goal.
Mimirs Voicecrack at the "from us?" When Atreus ask them about his Haircut Is cute 😂
Damn it, just when I though the dialogues ON LAND we're good (at least the scripted ones) these boat stories (I know they're not boat exclusive) are just...awesome.
Mimir: "Sometimes luck alone is enough. Just ask your father."
Kratos: "My success does not come from luck... it comes from plot armor."
He tried getting rid of the Blades of Chaos? What the hell? lmao such a weird tidbit I love it
It was in the comics, I think Kratos was traveling through Egypt while throwing the blades multiple times but it keeps coming back.
@@fall5923 Egypt? You mean he's already went through ancient Egypt?
@@zed6740 for a time after greece
@@zed6740 I believe it was a small village in the outskirts of Egypt.
@@zed6740 yes, he went to a small village where everywhere was scared shirtless of him because what he did to Greece had spread to other parts of the world. He had to fight a giant hippo monster, got his ass kicked a bit by it until Athena and Hoth appeared before him and told him he had to embrace his destiny to which be got pisssed grabbed rhe blades of chaos, which he had tried to through into the ocean but whenever he slept they returned, and killed the hippo and then he left ans traveled north
Man the stuff that happens when your traveling is so entertaining especially mimirs story’s it’s great and the dialogue it’s why I love this game something to keep you entertained while traveling
0:14 this caught me of guard lol🤣🤣
mimir : yawn
sigrun : thats why you know you know youre silly .
also mimir : yawn
atreus : why not try to throw "it" away
mimir : brother
atreus : just saying
The hot gates mimir was referring to was actually the 300 spartans.
Yes, the "300" spartans that were about 1000 spartans.
@@arcuz7862 Oh yes I was actually referring to the movie only, you're right thanks for the correction.
The way Kratos says "No" to Atreus is pure gold.
Uncle Deimos smiles upon Atreus-Loki Of Jötunheim when Kratos mentioned the Skill he has with a Shield....
"Did you think i couldn't handle it?" "I do not think you should have had to."
That's how my dad is with teaching me. We need to learn yes and it may be hard, but it shouldn't be torture to learn like our parents may have. He had a very rough life till he married and it made him really try and give us joy as much as lessons. Love my dad.
Atreus: hey father what's the biggest thing you've ever fought
Me: **having flashbacks when I played the OG God of Wars**
6:55
"Oh because of the magic on them?'
"The Blood"
""Ahh...Yess...carry on then"
*Runs into a barrel*
Kratos: *destroys pantheons*
Atreus: "I need new socks"
0:46, OKAY MIMIR IM GOING BACK TO THE GYM, JESUS.
“Even hateful things have their uses…”
Is that an insight or a desire, Kratos?
It's weird hearing the Battle of Thermopoly refered in its alternative name the "Hot Gates".
4:03 he forgot the past that he helped his giant grandpa remove a magical kidney stone then proceeds to stab his grandpa with the blade of olympus
Atreus:Father what's the biggest thing you've ever fought?
Kratos:*Got flashback of cronos,gaia etc* I do not know
I like how Kratos' one-word sentence in the previous God of War was "Boy" but in Ragnarok, it's "No."
Atreus:I want new socks
Kratos:what happen
Atreus:they’re wet
Kratos:they will dry
Atreus:but I want new one
Kratos:they will dry.
2:00 what an awsome refrence to the ending of God of war 3 he tosses his blades away during the final encounter with zeus and starts to beat him up with his fists.
I would have loved if Kratos’s answer to what was the biggest thing he ever fought was his grandfather.
Atreus: Father, when will I look like you?
Kratos: (oh fuck he's gonna ask)
Kratos: in what way?
Atreus: Like, BIGGER. When will I get muscles like yours?
Kratos: (phew)
Me, for a split second: your mother was a wolf????
me, remembering what mythos we're talking about: oh okay
Atreus: think i need new socks
Kratos: what has happen
Atreus: they're wet
Kratos: they will dry
Very asian sir
"Don't worry son, I didn't always have a beard like this. For the longest time I kind of just had a soul patch goatee thing going on........"
Atreus, asking two bald men how to take care of his hairs.😂
Atreus asking the 2 bald guys if he should grow his hair out is so funny
I love that they gave a reasoning to why Mimir never faces forward on Kratos's hip
Why dont they ever talk about who'd win in a battle if Zeus and Odin fought?Or like if Olympus and Asgard fought.
Odin is a planner and uses magic and deception to fight when he has too but he mainly uses Thor for the fighting and killing part
Zeus can throw hands, powerful lighting attacks, and can leave his body is a weird ass ghost form. Plus he stood toe to toe with prime rage Kratos
Odin would get wiped unless he had a plan, time, and Thor with him
I personally think Zeus would win against Odin. Because, Kratos needed the power of hope against Zeus but not against Odin. And for your second question, I believe Oylmpus would win with a lot of gods in their disposal and Asgard only having a few. Plus, gods in olympus represent an aspect, for example, helios being the Sun, Poseidon being the sea, Hades of death etc. And we can see that each of them had a particular and important roles as gods and had more to do than gods in Asgard. And lastly, I believe gods in olympus are more battle-oriented as they have been in a lot of wars with the titans.
@@randomdude1489 sorry dude, i dont want to be rude but hades is god of underworld, god of death is thanatos
olympus has nearly the entire greek pantheon of gods at its disposal asgard is extremely small in comparison,also the goddess nike is literally the concept of victory, then theres the fact the greeks have 60 million different gods of war (exaggeration of course) zeus is actually incredibly intelligent he outwitted the goddess of wisdom and wits, tricking her into letting him eat her, theres also the fact that helios and hermes alone would most likely stomp the entire pantheon alone, most of the asgardians wouldnt be able to react to helio's light, and not a single one would be able to catch hermes.
@@MAkbar-ki7uh ofc, I meant god of the dead. Not god of death.
That, 'ugg' at the mention of hard work. Atreus is me as a teen.
So wait, this game takes place after the battle of Thermopylae in 480 bce. So how long has Kratos been away from Greece? What era is this game even in?
The events of actual myth and legends happen in the games but in different time periods.
1000 years old, kratos is in the 2018 gow
According to Cory barlog the new gow games takes place in the era prior to the viking exploration age, which sets the game around 500 to 600 ad if I'm correct, so Kratos is likely almost 1200 years old.
I now want atreus to call him a boomer. I know it's not periodically accurate, but still.
@@Jeezes718 Kratos is technically older than that, since he told Freya and Mimir that he fought in the Trojan war.
@@gamechanger8908 the Trojan war was around 1200 to 1300 bc, the exact date is debated, and ragnarok is sometime are 500 to 600 ad, so that means Kratos is almost 2000 years old.
Y’know, I kinda find it interesting how Atreus asked Kratos what monsters he’s fought & who was the biggest he conquered. Remind me: Not counting Hephaestus, Clotho, the Colossus of Rhodes, the Hand of Hecatonchire & maybe Cronos, didn’t Kratos take down a whole-ass giant kraken in GoW: Ascension?
"Hey, guys. What if I let my hair go out?"
*The only two other people on the boat who are bald:* My guy are you high?
Atreus:
Kratos: yOur SoCks WiLl DrY
They WILL dry
“It’s not a competition….. not yet” sounds like a spin-off of god of war is inbound
"Besides, I tried. They came back."
The blades may not come when Kratos calls, but they really do just... follow him around, basically. Always end up back with him even if he tries to get rid of them, so the best he can do is just hang them up or hide them.
Mimir telling Atreus to work out LMAO
Kratos never lost that Spartan sense of humor. Short, very dry and with a razor sharp wit.